tv Inside Story 2019 Ep 165 Al Jazeera June 15, 2019 10:32am-11:01am +03
our system of control may seem a world apart from the west but systems like social credit actually have some parallels. in some way if you think about the origin of some of the the social credit coming from some of the major private businesses in china how different is it really from a kind of experience or an equifax or one of these set of credit rating agencies that actually do collect also very granular data on westerners and and that data is then shared with all kinds of other entities and used to make consequential decisions in current operation i would say that they are different i think the difference will be when it's not just your financial behavior one it's also your social your political behavior that gets observed and oftentimes the social credit system becomes a projection of our own fears about what is happening in our societies in the west where it's not necessarily what is object really happening in china that is important but it's about using what's happening in china as
a way to project what we're afraid of. so when i think about china's millions of workers being tracked 247. and potentially put into reeducation camps i think about the black community in the united states i think about predictive policing and i think kind of east and west one of the problems and worries that got with ai is the way that it gets road tested on communities of color in the form. the way these technologies 3rd being developed if not empowering people it's empowering corporations. they are in the hands of the people who hold the data and
that data is being fed into algorithms that we don't really get to see or understand that are opaque even to the people who wrote the program and they're being used against us rather than for us. there's this incredible informational imbalance isn't there that even as a handful of companies are acquiring more and more and more detailed information about each of our intimate lives we've got in some ways less and less information about them in the way that they operate it's nonsense when you think about the way in which fraud and corruption are words that get pointed out poor people who get tracked into these high highly surveilled systems. and if they don't participate they actually have no other option you don't get food if you don't participate you don't get to go to school if you're not in the system properly tracked and so i think these kinds of things are. are the questions again and that also might need
to be regulated you know beyond kind of the technical regulations one of the limits there is that so much of the pressure or focus in those movements is about perfecting the technology instead of thinking of more broadly about like what are the values that we're trying to implement and. who are they in service of now see to you worked a little bit with the obama administration didn't you on trying to determine how we make some of these automated systems more accountable to us did you find that that was a useful exercise how did that go i think there was a genuine interest in and thinking about what might be harmful what might be helpful what should we think about it now in order to forestall or prevent particular outcomes that we can't undo that's right further down the line and so there was a lot of interest i think what's happened since then is there has been this
increasing crescendo from industry saying these technologies are inevitable whether or not you like it they're coming. and what that creates for members of the community for citizens consumers is. increasingly a sense of despair or resignation well we might not be able to do anything about it and given that increasingly it looks like governments are actually punting to corporate governance structures or cut corporate governance bodies it can create a sense of despondence i'd like to pick up a slightly different but i think related part of that to do with a the kind of supply chain and actually the labor that is involved with some of this artificial intelligence because i feel like the phrase ai sometimes kind of hides like a lot of human labor that's used to make a given system work right so you've got people in kenya who've got a label images to train software for self driving cars or people in phoenix right
on very little wages looking at videos that would come up on you tube looking basically all day every day at a stabbing or a beheading so that that stuff can be taken off and you and i don't see it on our social media feeds is that one of the kind of problems we don't see a hidden problem of some of the artificial intelligence economy that there's a lot of human labor that is required to prop it up surely you don't see the data janitors who pay the day right they're not the ones that are. you know in our line of sight as things like silicon beach expands we don't see the sort of dis aggregated geographically dispersed nature of these ai companies and who all is involved in making and cleaning data right and i think that's that's highly problematic because it is contributing to this sort of magical or that surrounds a i can do all of these things efficiently and instantly and yet there's this whole
kind of body of people that contribute to that and the fact that in many cases their labor rights are being disrespected i think is also a cost for concern. yeah i mean i think we know now for example from researchers i think of my colleague at u.c.l.a. sarah roberts who's done all this work around commercial content moderators bringing them out of the shadows so that we actually understand that there are huge . dispersed global networks call center like environments where people are doing this kind of moderation that you talk about. you know one of the reasons why i think we previously didn't know about them is because there's such a deep investment by you know the sector and thinking at least in the us contacts of the internet as a free speech zone for example and that anything goes but of course we know that anything doesn't go i find it always interesting when i hear the machine learning
experts talk about how how crude in many ways things like kind of visual mapping is like you know is a table a table is the cat a cat right still trying to figure out these really rudimentary kinds of questions and yet when we see tech leaders in front of congress they say things like we're going to take down you know damaging contents of violent content content you know live murders live suicides with i sed to protect workers and i think you know that's really interesting because ai is not there. corey right to me. the role of ai in medicine is to. make better predictions but to make the doctors lives better if you just look at the camera and smile. but there are some fields where ai is already there and has the potential to do great good.
it could well transform the way we practice medicine a lot of what we're trying to do machine learning or big data in health care is to predict these healthy to disease transitions so really tracking your trajectory over time right and use those think i'd trade. so let's have you think about those on here at the lab 100 clinic at mount sinai hospital in new york city and relax i go through and i've driven health check that generates a heap of data so now going to your results right providing a more complete understanding of my physical well being. with access to this kind of information doctors could save lives and potentially millions of dollars along the way one of the most mature areas in medicine is the application of ai to imaging data and the actually deep learning came from image analysis and video analysis it was really well tuned for that type of thing so an example looking at radiology images and diagnosing a tumor or you know finding
a hip fracture those tools were already well tuned for that task i mean finding cats and videos but i think what's clear is is that the ai is at least as good and men and sent many cases in reality as a human is equivalent to a human radiologist might be more like airline pilots in a way so airline pilots are kind of there for you know takeoff and landing and then the plane flies itself for the most part but i think what radiologists are going to basically be doing is looking at the radiology image and basically rubber stamping it for. legal purposes really until we solve that problem with ai. ai that prevents disease what could be better but in a world where people have to pay for health care what would be so great is that private companies use your ai health profile to charge you more. the future of ai and health doesn't just depend on the tech it depends on our values is health care a human right. should a person predisposed to heart disease or cancer because of their low income or
ethnic backgrounds have worse care than those better off. the aim should be decent standards for all not a 2 tiered system. there are so many positive potential applications of artificial intelligence that would change the world for the better one is a very obviously the pattern recognition that ai is good at has proven incredibly good at spotting like mint tumors an incredibly powerful and inspiring medical advance that i've seen some papers on just in the past year but the technology is going to shortly underpin all aspects of our daily lives very shortly some form of machine learning artificial intelligence will determine whether somebody can loan whether somebody gets a mortgage whether somebody gets bail whether somebody gets paroled and as we've seen it may well determine matters of life or death in a military context so the stakes could not be higher the quality of your decision
making absolutely depends on the quality of the material that is coming into it and we have seen and other uncertain human contacts such as policing that math data their machine learning algorithms has a distressing tendency to replicate and accelerate all of our preexisting human biases. if you have a whole. technological culture infrastructure a whole language that emphasizes the lack of human responsibility and instead emphasize a system where there are these artificial agents we pretend they have agency but what's really going on is resisting to trick you manipulate each other then they'll be more and more trickery and manipulation and if we want to reduce things like turn attacks we have to emphasize human responsibility.
the drone attacks that killed my client's family showed just how much responsibility we're handing over to technology. but we can take that responsibility back our curiosity and drive to innovate has been pushing the bounds of what we can do with artificial intelligence for decades. as ai is used to make more and more decisions about us from targeting to policing to social welfare it raises huge questions while i would be used to target minorities or clean up our air will it destroy our privacy or treat disease will it make us more unequal or fight climate change these are questions that should be decided in the boardroom of a software company what happens with ai is everyone's business the world according to ai is our will and it's up to all of us to be sure it's a just one. offer
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sizes of brazilians take to the streets to protest against president bush also not as pension reforms. to risk to spread to countries outside the region remain slow. the world health organization decides against declaring the break in parts of africa as a global emergency. a city of protest as we look at how hong kong found its voice against mainland china. the u.s. president donald trump has dismissed iran's denial that it had anything to do with the tanker explosions in the gulf of oman mr trump's called iran a quotes nation of terror but gave no indication of any response to the incident on thursday he did to run against blocking the straits of hormuz as oil prices rose amid fears of a disruption in supply but i meant all reports now from musket. what
or who is to blame for the explosions on board 2 tankers in the gulf of oman the u.s. blames iran and they released this video purporting to show iran is sort of a gods removing an unexploded limpet mine from the japanese old kuta courageous the timestamp according to the americans shows it happened after the vessel screw had been askew well iran didn't do it and do you know they did it because you saw that load i guess one of the mines didn't explode and it probably got essentially iran written all over it and you sort of blow it in a trying to take the mind off and successfully took their mind off the boat and that was exposed was a boat that will damn. near didn't want the evidence left behind i guess they don't know that we have a signature we can detect in the dark that worked very well. russia and germany say the video at least inconclusive and the requires further investigation iranian
leaders accuse the us of what they call diplomacy against the country. speaking at a gathering of eurasia leaders in kyrgyzstan iranian president hassan rouhani said the u.s. is pushing and the going to see the stance that cannot be tolerated. as the government of the united states over the last 2 years using economic and military capacity and is creating an aggressive approach the united states has stepped over all the norms and regulations of the international community and has created new threats for the region and the world. and the war of words the japanese owner of one of the ships has cast doubts on the u.s. claim that mines were used he said the ships a lot of soft flying objects before the explosion this for analysts hard evidence is kept but intentions on the one side or the other are easy to get your on may
well one to prove that if squeezed it can hit back by dissipating oil supplies through the strait of hormuz the u.s. leaders on the other hand have long shown their desire to punish iran for its alleged nuclear ambitions one analyst says whoever is behind the attack incident has given the u.s. a perfect opportunity but i think it's pretty clear that the united states administration is really rushing to judgment there is quite a bit of cynicism out there are young people who are trying to read the messages from palm bay oh a lot of people think this is possibly a little too convenient given that there are some in washington some in certain countries in the region that want to see the tensions between the u.s. and iran remain really high some of those countries are iran a sunni muslim neighbors saudi arabia and the united arab emirates in addition to israel but there is no telling what a war on iran could cause to the region gulf nations have much to do is if
a major war breaks out if in the north of the country and i could find itself in the crossfire because of its location other nations such as the united arab emirates may well really think before encouraging a conflict that's good and the economy prosper. dizzier. the u.n. secretary general has condemned the incident in the gulf of oman and says the truth as to what happened must be established our diplomatic editor james bays has more now from the united nations in new york. addressing reporters alongside the arab league secretary general gate antonio good terrorists said remarkably that he had not seen this video released by the pentagon and broadcast around the world he said he believes there should be an independent investigation into the incident but the u.n. is not the rights to launch investigations only the security council can do it and
. in relation to that obviously not the right person to answer your question he also said that high level mediation was needed but again his hands were tied obviously. the most offices of the secretary general are always available but the office of the secretary general of the mandates on the bodies of the. u.n. can only be exercised with the full agreement of the parties the secretary general seems to be placing limits on his own possible actions and they are limits that are not laid out in the united nations governing document the un charter so why does mr terrorist appear to be so reluctant to get involved i asked his official spokes person can you tell me where in the charter of the limits on his good offices where are the limits in the charter to stop him setting up his own investigation i can't find any secretary general needs a legislative u.n.
legislative body to set up an investigation is it because it has that has been that has been the practice for as long as i've been here what does he need to carve out a more powerful role and is he not in effect shirking his response no i don't think he's sure at a time of global crisis he should be leading that i don't and he's finding excuses not to i don't think he's shirking his responsibility at all the secretary general is clearly putting the ball in the court of the security council but there are already clear indications on this. issued the council is deeply divided if mr good terrace is waiting for a unified security council to give him permission to get involved he may be waiting a very long time then again he probably already knows that james days out 0 of the united nations. senior political analyst marwan bashara says iran has little to gain from the tanker attacks if the united states and one of its proxies did not
carry the attack they know that iran did it and if the wind did not carry that that it now those that saudi arabia united arab emirates with a green light from the united states or the united states and one of its proxies have done this is the situation now who has the most the benefits. the united states thinks the things as they are meaning crippling iran economically does the job and that selling what bends the whole horse of countries in the region is even a sweetener to the new situation iran on the other hand is completely paralyzed by the situation is completely at the disadvantage because it has lost all the advantages of a deal that it signed and now it has none of the sweeteners from it specially of the economic level and it cannot export its oil so who has the most to gain from
a new sort of upping the ante of an escalation in the gulf region i think it's i think it's the iran regardless of the evidence so what i'm saying is the following this is going to continue to escalate mark my word on it this will continue to escalate the proxy war between iran and the united states had been going on for 40 years secretary pompei of says unprovoked well we all know this is not sure specially not the last 2 years specially not the last year certainly the threat administration has more than provoked iran by walking away from the nuclear deal and impose sanctions on iran kerry northwood is chairman of risk management and security company master and a former royal navy captain he says the private maritime sector will have to step up its security measures in the region. should the straits of hormuz be which i think i mean they are strategic strait and shipping does go through the straits of
hormuz but we have been if you remember we have been here before with this one back in the days of the iraq war in the 1980 s. the iranians harassed shipping and were very volatile shipping going through the straits of hormuz maybe to deploy to protect the ships and. the world carried on yes people had to make adjustments that were commercial impact it was commercial impact only on on shipping but. the iranians were not able in those in that particular case to close off the straits of hormuz and there's no reason why they should be able to this time want to since they know it has been considerate again since there's some young lady who will less able to deploy and provide protection in perhaps a way that the way they did back in i think it was in the private sector want to go i think they've made huge advances mainly as a result of the somali piracy problem in the indian ocean the commercial sector has
got used to taking. protective measures so protective measures including the use of armed guards and on guards to supplement the crew and provide them with additional support so there are things the private sector can be doing and they're very used to doing that and i think judicious use of. security and security other security measures both in the gulf of oman and through the straits of hormuz locatable. sorry state media are reporting airstrikes against yemeni targets by the so the u.a.e. led coalition according to the report the strikes hit hoofy military bases and defense systems in the capital sana'a. earlier a military spokesman for the rebel group warn people to stay away from airports in saudi arabia and the u.a.e. with use of targeted saudi arabia's airport near the yemeni border twice this week riyadh claims that for oil friday's attack on wednesday missiles hit the arrival
terminal injuring dozens of civilians. plenty more still to come here on the news for you including a court date being set for the wiki leaks founder julian assange has to decide if he will face extradition to the united states and we'll look at the hospital crisis in iraq's oil rich southern province also ahead the sports news including the host nation take a big step towards a semi final spot at the cricketing world cup. the world health organization has decided not to declare an international public health emergency over the outbreak of ebola in the democratic republic of congo nearly 1400 people have died there since august in the 2nd worst outbreak of the disease in history there are concerns the virus may have spread to uganda but 2 people died after visiting the d.r. see.