tv Inside Story 2019 Ep 192 Al Jazeera July 11, 2019 8:32pm-9:00pm +03
this occurred after georgia had signed an association agreement with the european union and there is a lot of concern of course about major membership because it's constantly being rated rated in may join it is the desire expressed by georgians and it is in the constitution so of course these store elements are together their domestic and the external the presence of russia is important in that way and i think there are the russian warry above all if i if i have a moment if i may say is also that these demonstrations have a very strong sort of i'm tired putin undertone and i think that from the perception of the kremlin it is not good to have a revolution sort of a change of government succeed which has as one of its main sort of inspirations and slogans you know to insult the president of russia and i think that that is probably something which creates a lot of concern in moscow so mentally you're talking about all of this and sentiment and we certainly heard some of that on sunday and tonic i want to ask you
about that georgian t.v. host who launched this tirade speaking in russian seemingly addressing russian president putin himself calling him a filthy invader insulting his mother and he said at one point putin flavor should get out of georgia how have georgians reacted and dimia of them share that view. they are said there were a series of reactions 1st of foremost of people where to be honest quite shocked because even if 99 percent of drew just population dislike strongly put in because he's the responsible for the occupation of georgia for the invasion of this country etc etc for the for the embargo setter for many bad things for this country but they were still quite surprised and many of them found that. the t.v. presenters the raid as you said was a bit. interstate softly tasteless but then the reaction of the
georgian government was even worse because immediately and it was a sunday evening they made statements. condemning not only the journalist that we can understand and that. calling the international community to condemn the journalist of the private television because of his. outrageous remarks about the president of the occupying country so the paedos people who 1st were surprised and disappointed or angry about the journalist became even more angry against the government because this is not the reaction of a government of a sovereign country and they manage the government i mean the government menage to to to attract the all these criticism towards the government and the next day putin made extremely strange remarks about the georgian history and style starting to lecture the whole georgian not only georgian but the international community about the history of georgia starting from the 18th century they are totally fake
a version of the georgian history so all these. this incident is is just revealing what is very old russia trying to undermine the independence and the territorial integrity of georgia since georgia's independence at least i'm not going farther into history but since 1901 georgia had. 2 separatist wars numerous attempts or for a sissy nation of the presidents etc and all behind all this. all these things where was russia and russian secret services. russia's reaction after the members of georgia to the store georgia's independence and to to prevent this country from getting closer or with with europe and with the worse and that was the choice of the georgian population again there what's happened last week is your only one more months one. of these many years of position between russia and georgia don't want
to hear you say that putin then gave his own version of history but one of the things that he did do was push back on the duma when they wanted to impose sanctions against georgia so problem can you explain that to me what's the rationale for for going against parliament and saying no no let's not impose sanctions on mineral water and wine and remittances and let's rather continue pursuing and better relations with georgia after you've been insulted in that way. well putin said this journalist doesn't matter that he is just kind of a journalist and we had him say work here wishes and in general is trying to put a good policeman of course i mean parliament does not decide in moscow anything about sanctions even weaker they can't it's only the president can impose sanctions are not so parliament had a vote to ask the government to propose to putin to impose sanctions and put in
said no i won't do all that he is that even we go he in his power and de facto the russian duma is just a rubber stamp that. puts forward. that the kremlin tells it to. this yes it's sending a very putin was sending a very powerful message to believe that the you should put the present georgian government should put their busy house in order that they should clamp down on the . demonstrators and on the opposition impose order and then the there will be no sanctions then the ban on travel on these direct their travel between russia and georgia will be lifted and there are things going to be ok it's clear that moscow is very been upset for some years increasingly with
the georgian policy of the georgian government of the georgian party of the georgian dream the kind of balance between the west and moscow to increase economic relations with dorothea with russia at the same time with the european union and having a military exercises with american troops this year landing in charge and having exercises with heavy equipment and moscow doesn't didn't like it i mean this what's happening right now. preferred story of russia wants to see georgia solidly inside the russians fear losing georgia allowing it to become a say ukraine a senior. war for post for the worst is absolutely unacceptable for for moscow well i want to ask you a little more about this flight banned on the tele in london because it's not
a small thing it sounds like a small thing cutting off flights but that's $1400000.00 russian tourists who travel to georgia just last year and that's something like 10 percent of georgia's annual tourism revenue and they could lose $300000000.00 how much of an impact would that have on georgia and subsequently we've also seen this this campaign to try to get more people to come to georgia as tourists and that's been supported by a lot of western diplomats so following along with this theme of russia russia sorry georgia trying to cozy up with the west could that galvanize more support this flight ban could potentially actually bring the western georgia closer together. well i mean there is no doubt as you mentioned on the figures that you gave you know accurately portray you know the relevance that georgia that russian tourism has for georgia and also the say you know the trade of agricultural
products wine and mineral water if there would be a band would be very serious so it has an impact on on the economy and george is trying to find ways around by trying to 0 to help her joya russians arrive in georgia because tourism is a very important source of income for many so it is going to hit the economy as they did when there were many other sort of trade embargoes in the past starting in 2006 so georgia has already faced these sort of pressures. i mean both sides both governments have to sort of walk this very tight rope of trying to keep good relations going but at the same time addressing this reality for the georgians to address their demands and their requests of the people in the street which would seem not to want to go away and russia at the same time trying to do something not losing face but at the same time not going too far to the point
of really weakening the georgian dream coalition and then paving the way for a government that is a lot more sort of russian and a lot more pro western i think georgia is already on a path of closer rapprochement with the west anyway and that i think is not going to change and to a certain extent moscow is trying to limit the damage because their presence it has in these 2 republics and its policies in georgia have really pushed the georgians a lot more into the western hands and that was a policy they really wanted to pursue already since made early 990 s. so i think that. is going to be a big a big challenging for the 2 leaders in the other 2 regimes in the 2 countries to address this crisis. mean to talk about being further into the hands of the west i think is not really they add a good way of describing this because most christians or most governments in
georgia have generally supported close a rapprochement with the west but they have have done that in different approaches and this government has tried in a certain way to to not to antagonize moscow so that they could at least develop better economic ties and visa regimes but the past towards close the rapprochement with the west is there and this is shown not only in the economic side but also in the military field as was mentioned their military exercises their close cooperation very recently the secretary general of nato again reaffirmed that georgia will become a member of nato but of course this is also remains sort of in a limbo so russia war is that this process of membership on close a 1000000 for approach more could happen and i think that is the real worry of the kremlin as was mentioned by by probably in moscow i want to bring to an occasion
here because you were very involved with georgia's relationship with both the e.u. and with nato and some people do argue that conflict with russia gives georgia more opportunity for continued western patronage and it gives them more defense aid makes them more important for a relatively small country and it potentially strengthens their bid to join nato so it's in their interest conflict with russia is in georgia's interest. just come back we will be to what what was said i mainly agree with the both of speakers about the economy relations with russia and political relations with russia the fact that severe putin said so so far he's not going to impose sanctions is that russia doesn't want to punish a government which is the last anti-rational less critical government towards russia almost since the independence of georgia in the ninety's so if they
. impose again sanctions or eat they adopt some aggressive measures it will punish of course these are governments and they day that they don't want it and now coming back to the to the to europe and to the west. in several years ago i was the person who negotiated the association association agreement and free trade agreement with the european union so after that into 2014 the agreements in answering to force each should have really helped georgia to increase share in georgia's foreign trait what's happened in parallel was that russia in order to thank or to encourage the government the of georgian dream they also. lifted sanctions against georgia so we saw the russia's share in georgia's foreign trade really growing faster then. european union share in georgia's foreign trade this is something that is
politically very dangerous because okayed give some some you know some some some dynamics to the local economy but at the same time we know that the trade with russia is very much dependent on political circumstances and we have seen that in the past in the ninety's in the year 2000 when it entered you burb look it was imposed on georgia or book a don't agree cultural foodstuff. that was sent to russia was blocked all of for political reasons so georgian government should have been more. more prudent or precautious when they started these relations with the group with the comic relations with russia and did not put all the energy to develop more economic ties with the with the european union of course it's bad to to have nor normal trade with russia or the russian tourists nor one wants that in georgia the georgians are those who wants to disassociate and georgians were the 1st after the war in 2008 to
lift the visas for a russian citizens to come to and to visit georgia despite the war that despite the absence of diplomatic relations it was already 2011 that the russian citizens could come to georgia of it out of business and that there was no reciprocation by the way because georgian citizen still need a very long and complicated procedures to get to visit russia so this attempts were positive and were made by the way by the former government at the beginning but georgia should be very very cautious about not making the country dependent on russia economically because we know that all these at the end is very political to want to say and. and pavel felgenhauer thank you very much for joining us today and thank you to you for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website out of there at dot com and for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com for trash a.j.
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