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this begs be sol office pro isis al qaida style ideology groups now they have long been opposed to what has been going on in the south of gaza in terms of hamas is cooperation with egyptian security egypt is trying to crack down on this movement in the sinai peninsula and recent in recent years hamas has been cooperating with gyptian security kind of people over making it harder to get across the border there was an attack such as this in 2017 and in southern gaza and this attack has come right in the center of gaza city so we understand there have been arrests made a mass does monitor the activity of these groups extremely closely and so the fact that this is happening has come as a shock to hamas around to the people here. still ahead on the bulletin. agrees to accept international aid to find the amazon forest fires but insists it's
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for decide how to use the money plus. we've been going everywhere to the shelters in every place trying to find somewhere to live. child poverty in one of the wealthier states and america. welcome back we're here cross the south china sea we are watching trouble storm making its way towards the west now did bring very heavy rain across parts of the philippines when it crossed over now the storm system is in open water it's very warm here it's going to keep the storm sustained right now and as we go towards friday we are looking at a landfall here in vietnam by the time it makes its way towards friday evening the storm is going to be dropping down to probably a tropical depression status there well here across india where you have been watching this one area code. louds and rain pushing through very heavy rain has
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been a problem across much of the central area as well as into the west and that will also affect parts of pakistan as we go towards thursday kharaj is going to be seeing some rain not to a high temperature maybe 29 degrees as your expected high new delhi though is out of the rain here on thursday but by the time we get to friday more sun there $35.00 degrees in the expected high but down towards the south it is going to be sri lanka with more rain in the forecast at $27.00 degrees $32.00 for you and here across the gulf we are looking at temperatures still very humid across much of the area particularly in the morning and the overnight hours doha is expected to be about 40 degrees here on thursday and by the time we get to friday it is going to maybe creep up to about $41.00 degrees there a mascot and they stay few at $31.00. and the corruption. embroiled in a battle to hold the power. is this radical
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transformation. unconventional methods to eliminate corruption. people. come in is a problem and the top stories this hour. u.k.'s queen elizabeth has approved the plan by prime minster to suspend parliament. the opposition has called johnson's move a code though saying it may be time to debate. recognise
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kalam and has launched an attack against back to. aden where it's taken control of the international airport all flights have been suspended. and hamas has declared a state of alert in gaza after 3 police officers were killed in 2 separate attacks it's thought they were carried out by groups so. now brazil says it will accept international aid to help fight fires ravaging the amazon as long as it can control how the money is used president earlier rejected an offer of 20000000 dollars from the g 7 nations accusing them of trade like a colony but despite the environmental concerns the president is pushing ahead with . to develop and farm protected and dead in its reserves which as a legal daniel has moved from port of value n. brazil's amazon region. subdivision president job also nardo says the situation is under control he sent in the army in the rainy season has arrived brazil he says
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will solve its own problems well look after the amazon not. god willing to go there will find a solution through these fires and give such as faction to rest of the world and people who think like mr micawber should think 2 or 3 times before wanting to get out of a complicated situation like he finds himself with an enormous rejection rate in his country and wanting to damages. after meeting in brasilia with amazon state governors ball scenario even suggested there should be more developments in the amazon region hours later a congressional committee approved in the membership to allow commercial agriculture on indigenous reservations something that is currently prohibited still will get us out yeah sure we're winning this war with the support of you all to show what the amazon region is to show its potential in the benefits of can bring to all including our brothers dean d. and also has the support of the us president with whom he has
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a close relationship and the shared love of tweeting. reaction in brazil to their president's handling of the crisis has been mixed in game. no one can leave completely alone no one grows alone any help is always welcome as long as it's well intended. cannot be linked to any kind of submission to foreign countries brazil must have autonomy over the amazon we cannot accept this internationalization of the amazon. any further development of the amazon we met with strong opposition from around the world however it's the indigenous communities who live in the forest those with the most to lose who will react the strongest but for the people who live here in the amazon region this is normal natural they burn and they will burn again next year because they believe with the backing of their political leaders that this is the best way to develop this land. also believes this is brazil's land to develop and resents foreign interference but you international
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community feels it can simply watch as the so-called lungs of the earth burn them in their al-jazeera. northwestern brazil. now at least $23.00 people have been killed in an attack on a bar in mexico it happened in the southeastern city of caught circle all corners on tuesday night the attack of started a fire which injured 13 other people police say the blaze may have been lit a petrol bombs. now afghan officials say taliban fighters have killed at least 14 members of a pro-government group in the west of the country it happened in head up province the attack comes as the taliban and u.s. officials are working on a deal to facilitate the withdrawal of american troops from afghanistan. protesters in hong kong have turned their anger towards airline cathay pacific they say the company's decision to fire 20 of its staff for taking part in antigovernment protests is creating a climate of fear meanwhile
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a number general strike has been called for next week when he reports from hong kong. it's a sensitive time in hong kong and being seen at a protest could cost you your job. the focus of this small rally was cathay pacific the airline is the most high profile case of what these people believe is increasing interference by china in hong kong workplaces harm congress and is now facing is a year. from the show now the man hong kong government on that he cannot even express them or not feel it's a long torso medium have. several cathay pacific employees have been fired for making social media posts in support of the n.t. government protests all for attending rallies cathay pacific is a publicly listed company but one of its major shareholders is it china which is owned by the chinese government's some staff have resigned from the company in
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protest like politician and pilot jeremy tam this can offer you no interference from the beijing government just change it completely and everybody fear of you know being put under the spotlight it's not just cathay pacific that's coming under pressure from beijing there's a wider atmosphere creeping into the hong kong corporate world that if you want to continue doing business with china then you should distance yourself and your star from the protests last week it was the turn of accountants to take to the streets to reject interference from beijing star from major firms like deloitte had earlier taken out a newspaper ad criticizing their companies for ignoring hong kong people and the reasons for the protests after pressure from beijing the company's released statements distancing themselves from the air cathay pacific declined al-jazeera as requests for an interview but the reason given for the action against staff is
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security chinese aviation or 30 say they won't allow cathay flights. wintered there is space if operated by anyone who has participated in all supportive protests the fact that kathy's aircraft. don't need to fly into china in space that china's entitled to all asked them to live by as far as we are concerned we totally support the freedom of. freedom of opinion continues to be expressed on the streets but in the workplace it's becoming increasingly difficult when hey al-jazeera hong kong. malaysia's former prime minister najib razak is in court for his 2nd corruption trial the 66 year old faces $25.00 charges including money laundering he's accused of using his position to steal $500000000.00 from a state investment fund. now the u.n. says a 1000000000 children in the world are living in poverty and they're not just in
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the poorest countries in the u.s. california has one of the highest rates of any stays and a lack of affordable housing is making the situation worse rob reynolds reports from the town of watsonville that's just south of san francisco. less than 50 kilometers from the vast wealth of silicon valley michelle basara her daughter and granddaughter live in a dilapidated trailer without running water or indoor plumbing think we have summer to stay you know because the hardest part we've been going everywhere to the shelters in every place trying to find somewhere to live 3 year old busy phoenix is one of millions of american children living in poverty a family asked us not to show the toddlers face to protect their privacy we basically told they were going camping for the summer so. she thinks we're going
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you know that we're here camping nearby a community service organization called loaves and fishes serves free meals on thin at the salvation army shelter it's really hard especially i have 3 kids one way the age it's hard they get the president gets rid stout raymond conoco runs the watsonville social services organization community bridges it's really you know 2 things it's the rising cost of housing and it's the stagnant wages the reality is that the needs are systemic there systemic based on a capitalism that has gone awry the amount of affordable housing for very low income families fell by more than 60 percent since 2010 the trumpet ministration has proposed slashing $8000000000.00 for subsidized housing and to triple rents paid 570-0000 of the poorest public housing residents in local elementary schools here most children receive free meals $30000000.00 us children get free or reduced
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price meals at school recent proposed changes by the trumpet ministration would strike half a $1000000.00 from the program nationwide there are nearly $13000000.00 kids living in poverty according to the activist group the children's defense. that's nearly one out of every 5 children in the united states poverty 6 kids ability to learn the number one indicator that actually affects unions education. poverty raising a family in poverty is an emotional burden for caregivers like me shelby sarah i think i was already a pretty humble person but now i just degraded you know just look down on. humiliation hunger and homelessness in the wealthiest state in the wealthiest country on earth rob reynolds watsonville california. to italy
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now where the interior minister has banned another charity ship from entering italian waters the german vessel is carrying more than 100 people rescued from the mediterranean and the pos mom. has also 2 planes used to search for boats in distress or rescue is a still searching for about 40 people after a boat heading for europe capsized off the libyan coast at least 5 people drowned while 65 others were rescued well jose better the spokesman for the charity group a lot. and they've had their rescue planes grounded by the italian government he says his team met its legal obligations. well in fact we were quite surprised because from the beginning of the when we launched the project in fact more than one a year ago now we of course can all the legal aspect and then more recently after receiving these information from the civil aviation authorities or from italy we are even cross-check are going to have 2 lawyers and apparently from the am there
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is no reason for our flight to be to be stopped what i wanted to say as well is that we are we are now operating seems more than a year we have been there for forming more than 80 flight during this mission we were able to support $71.00 boat with close to $6000.00 people on board and then you know nobody was talking to or to do is decide to be so indeed we are definitely not understanding why these blockage it's coming at that particular time where as you have been mentioning just before this situation remain critical and then we saw more people trying to use a desperate crossing at and at any cost. now al jazeera has uncovered doping amongst kenyan athletes training alongside some of the world's top runners the country's officials say they're doing their best to stop it but banned drugs like the blood e.p.a. are easily available and as a correspondent catherine sawyer found out what you travel to kenya's rift valley
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thank you this is an open secret yes katherine's exclusive report. it hanny's popularly known as the home of champions not only does the small town boast of producing some of kenya's greatest athletes thousands of others from around the world come here to train because of its high altitude but in recent years kenya's prominent image in the world of athletics has been tainted by doping allegations we talked to athletes who admitted to doping and told us it's common practice this rana asked us not to reveal his identity he said he felt under pressure to succeed here he's filmed receiving an injection while training for a big race. i know doping is bad but as runners we have to support our families through whatever means the 1st time i went for it i lost and that prompted me to take the risk because this is my livelihood. athletes we talked to said it's
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quite easy to get e.p.o. in many promises it's a controlled drug mainly use for a many patients back to the right price doctors life is a pharmacist provided for honest these pharmacists who also asked to keep his identity he then sobs runners who give him a card from their awnings we sent him to buy this dose of e.p.o. which he did within hours despite it at leats. given 6 outlets we also met as boca prop one of dozens of athletes banned by the world anti-doping agency has won 3 world championship titles but tested positive for using e.p.o. to prop maintains his innocence it's had. the signs of you know which i believe there must be. conspiracy. science era kenya's doping money to say with thousands of athletes and stretched resources keeping checks on everyone has been
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a challenge we need to clean up. even. so the core values of competition. the spirit of sports with a computer. still happy that their computer is. number 100 but i finished the half marathon that is this bullet proof. that this is a lucrative sport and some of those we talked to said as long as this corruption and ran as willing to risk everything to make money copping cheating on his be difficult catherine saw an al-jazeera 10. 0 again on him as a problem and are harbored the headlines on al-jazeera u.k.'s queen elizabeth has approved the plan by prime minister bar's johnson to suspend parliament until
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a medic tobar the opposition has called johnson's move a code saying it leaves little time to debate bracks it. this is a new government with a very exciting agenda to make our streets safer which very important we bring violent crime down we need to invest in our fantastic n.h.s. we need to level up education funding across the country we need to invest in the infrastructure that's going to take this country forward for the decades and we need to deal with the cost of living moving to a high wage highly productivity economy which is i think what this country needs to be and to do that we need new legislation we've got to be bringing forward new and important bills and that's why we are going to have a queen's speech and we're going to do it on october the 14th. yemen's year and recognize government as regaining control of aden including the airport and presidential palace that's after the city was seized by u.a.e. backed separatist forces 2 weeks ago earlier all flights at the airport were
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suspended and workers evacuated due to the fighting. now hamas has declared a state of alert in gaza after 3 police officers were killed and 2 separate so aside attacks the 1st blast had a police checkpoint where 2 officers died and less than an hour later there was a 2nd explosion at an air another checkpoint in the city killing a 3rd officer as thought the attacks were carried out by groups linked to i still. brazil says it will now accept foreign help to fight the amazon forest fire as president job also now initially rejected an offer of 20000000 dollars from g 7 leaders he insists the government should have control on how to use the money. protesters in hong kong are turning their anger towards airline cathay pacific after 12 weeks of rallies demonstrators gathered in the central financial district after more than 20 of the carrier stop were fired for protesting malaysia's former prime minister najib razak is in court for his 2nd corruption trial he's accused of
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using his position to steal a $500000000.00 from a state investment fund well those are the headlines on al-jazeera the stream is coming up next thank you for watching. after 25 years of affording the world's ways china through the global recycling industry into chaos. the growing pressure of agreement resulting in change we bring you the stories to the shaping the economic. cost on al-jazeera. ok google studio lights are known. as excellent studio mikes do the show. they're not that small. smart devices certainly make our life easier but security experts say there is a dark side to the technology i'm really could be i've got me ok today we asked the experts what dr devices know about us what are your thoughts tweet us or leave
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a comment in our live you tube chat and you too can be in the stream. voice recognition has become commonplace for millions of people around the world who use the virtual assistants that come with asphalt phones and speakers and while these high powered help us quietly listen who else is on the other end whistleblowers from apple google and amazon claim workers regularly listen to personal conversations like those between a doctor and patient as well as sexual encounters and even criminal acts should we be concerned and if so how do we protect ourselves joining us to discuss this in san francisco california right a futurist and technology like south. in san diego california sandra daly he's a cyber security researcher and in new york lily hay neuman she's
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a reporter at wired focusing on information security digital privacy and hacking welcome everyone it's good to have you here let me let's start with you if you have a device that has a microphone on it should we assume that it is listening to us or is that just being paranoid. you know it's not specifically that the device is always listening what's happened with these revelations is that it turns out that in some cases snippets of your audio were being reviewed by real people 3rd party reviewers who were transcribing the information and trying to check whether the digital systems were getting the right information out of your requests to the device so it's not an all the time listening but it's may be more of a human component than users realize some of you got any idea what that might look like a home office full of people we've had phones and listening to me trying to put my shopping list together. it very well could be very well could be you know google
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was discovered to have been subcontracted out for its google systems and there was a flemish news agency. reported on these contractors. reading or listening and transcribing these google voice calls and so there could be quite a number and we actually are able we don't know how many there are and we're unable to quantify so one might be asking then why would anyone use these devices in full disclosure i love my alexa i don't use google home or siri though and all of those are what people are talking about so here is one heath on twitter who uses these devices he says i use them for timers calendars reminders news updates trivia games general knowledge questions phone call smart home control weather reports the list goes on and on he says privacy is less an issue with these devices than functionality i actually want these ai systems to become more conversational and
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less robotic asking google home for a search is no different to me than typing it into a browser window when it comes to privacy alix what do you make of that last part of keith's comment there he's comment is absolutely correct what he said quote is the same as. text input from a machine standpoint it's all this information that were handing over to companies like google or apple facebook amazon it's all being reduced to bits and the question is how comfortable are we sharing that information heath obviously has no problem with it and i think most people frankly shouldn't have a problem with letting siri know that they want to know what the weather is or that they want to play their playlist i think where you run into the margins which is what sam alluded to is what if there is really sensitive stuff in these conversations and we're assuming that these systems aren't listening when in fact they are and some of your probably had some scary instances where for example maybe you were googling something about
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a medical condition and then ads might show up in your g. mail which is a little to the fact that they know that you're doing this well the same thing as a play and for systems as well let's just explain very simply how one of things 1st come on systems actually so let's look at the amazon. really easy to understand how it. in order to a voice recognition artificial intelligence you need a massive data center and literally everything someone might say to their phone when you speak to an alexa device on the data is stored in the cloud that means amazon can do more to study that data and help the system learn your habits and interests better guess what you might search in the future. he was in the great things that come out of that device is actually listening to us we talk to a code say it helps us out can you go for a couple of the stories that you know well these devices have really been helpful in people's lives. yeah i think that's the thing that i always talk to people about
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when they are thinking well should i use some of these devices or not i think it comes back to a sort of risk assessment or cost benefit analysis for each person for me i don't usually use these devices or smart assistants things like that because i don't find that it's much more useful to me than typing something into my phone or choosing when i want to receive information through a device like a laptop bed other people if they have mobility issues if they're your parents if that you know lots of things could be going on where it's not that easy to get to a device where even get to a light switch something like that where just being able to speak a command is a massive quality of life improvement over doing some of these daily tasks so in the case where you're getting a huge benefit out of it in your daily life i think there's a potential like that commenter was talking about the to say well the trade off is worth it to me you know maybe there's
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a privacy risk but on the other hand i'm getting this enormous benefit for me as an individual user personally i don't find that that trade off it makes sense for me right now but i think if you're thinking about it that way you'll be in a better position regardless of what happens next you know if something were to happen to your data or something and you were getting a lot out of the device you would feel better about that than if it was really out of left field and you've never considered it so every i think i got to think about it i agree with really but i also tend to think about it a little differently. the 1st point is that. whether it's useful or not everybody that's a sort of a personal decision. for many people will be incredibly useful and for some people the american scared about the security of this by giving up their 1st where i feel is really the issue is that they're not telling you that they're doing this in the background and i think a lot of cases if they just told you if they just let you know that hey we're doing this what really. if you had a lot of these other concerns
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a 2nd point which i think willie and sam know about as well too it's not like that clip to talk about absent data systems or massive amounts of data to train our best not to anymore they can actually train a very effectively on a much smaller data sets than they could even 2 or 3 years ago you see this with for example some of the research on solving captures and so i think that that's almost a false choice they don't need the same amount of data and you also see some sisters systems like opt in where for example mozilla open source kroll organization has a project called common voice where they have people opting in to donate their voice under conditions where the person identification is obscure and it allows them to create a trainable corpus that anybody could use that's not necessarily dominated by big tech companies alex i think that that's an interesting point you made 1st of all in that the users are not immediately told they don't always know that this is happening and then what is have is happening with that data i want to share a video comment we got from
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a staff writer covering technology at the atlantic his name is sidney and here's his take on that point more more of these products are coming into our lives and we're figuring out midway in later way after the fact how they actually work and whether or not we we want them and so what is happening right now with all these different scandals clinic where we're learning how it works the debt is coming due in terms of how these products actually affect our lives when it's in that thing should ask is if we had known this debt was coming if we had known how these products actually work would be have bought them in the 1st place as relates to intellectual debt the debt is growing we're buying more of these products and because the products are becoming more sophisticated. was what we're risking is eventually because products will know more about this than we know about them. sam what do you make about his point on the data and if we had known would we have bought the products although again full disclosure i knew it would be a bit
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a bit creepy to have a microphone in my home and yet the utility is worth it for me but what do you think. i mean i think sony is absolutely right i mean we have billions of devices connected to the internet you know we have our digital companions alexis siri google home and you know which there are now imbedded into you know appliances and home speakers and even cars and so you know that it's becoming you know so ubiquitous and right now. we have this reactionary approach to data privacy you know what when something is breached and we end up looking at all the laws and the rules and seeing you know ok well what happened and how do we rectify it but we should you know we should be addressing these before hand so i think that's what's what's really missing at this point right now one of the reasons get it talking about this says to me alex just one moment to it just just at the end the story is one of one is that some of our audience wanted to hear about more odd devices listening to the other one is fiscal admits potus lead to more than 1000 private
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conversations with google assistant so that will issues here what we had to say so i was going to say 2 points the 1st part to sam's point we really this has been an afterthought it's been reactionary and i think that for the most part people don't really care about their privacy until they realize something bad has happened it's almost like a car in a car insurance you don't care you haven't got off to a crash and i think that the tech companies probably could've done a better job of creating interfaces and ways for us to understand the implications but i think that's part of their job because they are making money off their privacy make no mistake about that the 2nd piece is that i asked people to put this in perspective when i talk to them which is that compared to what happened with the equifax leap for example where in the u.s. at least over 100000000 people's very intimate financial data was essentially
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leaked or stolen this is really small potatoes and i think that very often we get worked up about you know someone's listening in on maybe. some slightly personal stock where the whole world has your most you kill throat quite into it from a sure that it's sold in the dark well for a sense perec are right that i don't play it very that it's sort of small potatoes because of the point that people don't really understand what they're buying and there isn't transparency from the tech companies about what is happening to the data so yeah in theory a social security number is a lot more sensitive than what you're saying to your amazon echo or whatever it might be but in practice if people don't know what they're buying and they don't understand that there's an exposure there are potential exposure and they're giving these devices as gifts to their family members at a holiday or a birthday or something like that then it's just propagating more and more and people aren't really aware of you know maybe they could be setting their services
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security number out now out loud to their spouse in their home not realizing that they also said the wake word and it's being captured so i definitely think there's you know a major problem there that isn't unique to the on the uninitiated the way quite tell it what about the way what it's like having a safe flight however it's not down into a nut but tell me what to do with the way that part of the search somehow tyson that's what the what what is for people who don't have. used devices aren't actually listening to you all the time they're only listening when you say a word to wake them up so that they start listening just and that's a privacy protection that was put in place so it's not so creepy to have something that's always on but one of the concerns with these devices has been that sometimes the device thinks it hears the wake word when it actually didn't and that's a lot of the issue that's happened with the snippets of audio being someone committing
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a crime doing an internet at something like that you know they're not intending for the device to be listening in that moment but it misinterpreted something as the wake word so that's kind of another area of this that's important to understand. alex. so sam before you jump in there then i will because i want to share this from you to elizabeth that this listening and data collecting turns people and their data into the products which feels a bit too 19 eighty-four for me so it's that point that i want to pivot off of because we just got this tweet from courtney who says my privacy concerns are more about 3rd party sharing than what amazon collects i don't care if they record me for a product improvement i do care if they sell that data up and i care about my data being stored indefinitely so i think this is the crucial point for a lot of people sam talk to us about who this data gets sold to who wants it who are these 3rd party organizations. you know and that's a that's
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a great question you know and that's that's the problem itself is we don't know who these 3rd parties are and we don't we the united states at least lacks any federal data privacy law that discloses or requires that transparency and so luckily in the e.u. you know that you can have the g.d.p. our law but right now we don't know you know who they're sharing it with and so you know a lot of times you know it's a little bit too you know it you know they these companies they may you know collect or have our data our voices but a lot of times you know it extends beyond just these devices you know it could be your apps and these are browser extensions or browser apps and they can they can collect your pictures they can they can collect your data about your d.n.a. your travel itineraries and your personal documents and then and then all of this may be captured by 3rd parties and so and then be shared with that that there are parties going to go to this really cuts to the core of the sort of the market
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mismatch in the digital economy the way it felt we we are accustomed to getting lots of valuable things for free in the way that money is recouped as they sell our information it's transparent it's not true i mean it's completely opaque as to where it's sold and to how much the value of our information is but in general at least to date we have a good necessarily willing to pay for things once we've been exposed to using the group for so i think that this is almost like an original sin of the digital economy going way back to the early days of the internet but we are paying for. devices we are paying good money for them they pay money to use them so it's not yet exactly so then a ship a simpleton security into that i'm just curious sam when these new devices a point out is there a process in the testing states where i think ok what are the ethical issues that we need to examine that just happen later after the point has happened. i mean companies like amazon google you know facebook you know they they do take these
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into consideration you know they're working on it but we need more stringent you know safeguards and so you know they may not be looking at the whole economy and as you know selling their data to somebody else we don't know what that 3rd party is doing with our data so they may tell us and say ok we gave it to company y. but what is whose company why sure i'm not with them and so there's all these degrees of separation that we don't really know about and all of those really need to be looked into and explored more and this is where i think it comes back to the tillett if for each individual because you know a company they i do think that all the companies take pains to at least make their devices not seem creepy but that's because they want to sell more devices you know even if they mean well or that you know they don't mean anyone ill their ultimate goal is just to sell the devices so i think it comes back to what an individual is
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getting out of it and not just trying to sort of have something that's trendy or cool because it is going to be opaque what they're doing with these things the question is are we as consumers getting value from them because otherwise you're just sort of giving them your money and all your data and everything you know you really need to be thinking about what you're getting back in deciding what you use here's someone who would agree with you this is alvin allen on twitter says ideally people would get a fuller understanding of how these devices work and all the possible things that can happen with the recordings of their voice before deciding to purchase companies have made this difficult though in my opinion because they know these details may hurt sales exactly what you are saying there but i want to play a video comment from someone i was whose echoing an idea we brought up but really honing in on it this is sarah freer she's a tech reporter at bloomberg and here's her take. companies need to be honest about the fact that when we give them data for artificial intelligence purposes it's not
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just machines looking at that data often it's humans who are parsing through it transcribing it cataloging and testing the computer is efficiency and accuracy and if we don't know what's happening with our data we can't make appropriate decisions for our own privacy it's very important that they disclose to us exactly what stage they're in with their artificial intelligence and exactly how much human involvement there will be in achieving what we asked the products to do. so i would she want disclosure what do you think that we as consumers need to be doing to ensure our privacy is protected. so kevin kelly talks a bit about that sometimes it is kind of a well known thinker on this and the need for some kind of artificial intelligence agent that actually represents us because frankly if we were to receive disclosures every time that our data was being used today our system all we would do all day long would be received disclosures and try to read disclosures that tell paraiso
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the systems are so so i think that it's really an issue where yes we should be told but there has to be a better way for us to gain control 1st of all of the inception of whether we want to participate so i can have all of 2 understanding there may be red flags that hey this is something that your interest may be violated or you may concern your book because just the idea of like policing all or data totally impossible. probably the best example of what could possibly happen to the data is from a p.r. company that doesn't exist anymore cambridge analytical in the u.k. and how they used potential voter and what happened that let me just remind you have a look. in 2015 the political consulting firm cambridge analytics gained access to data from more than 50000000 facebook users for political advertising purposes the data suggested what kind of advertisement would most likely persuade
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a particular person in a particular location for some political ad that information from cambridge analytical was leveraged to influence political events around the world including the 2016 u.s. presidential election and the 26000 bricks at both tech companies are just getting sharper collecting and using information about us and while the long term consequences potential misuse of so much personal data collection remains largely unknown we don't seem to be limiting the data we leave behind. some of it i'm just thinking i wonder if we actually even care as can same as because every time that we sign on to an apple if i say i guess it's a whole list of options if we say no it was he has his say it said rico ok and then we sign off on it i wondering whose responsibility is it to make sure that data say yes say. it's
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a little bit of works on both you know both and so the companies you know obviously need to be transparent they need to offer explicit consent and then we as you know users of the internet and these devices we need to be able to read you know all the state and we need to be able to be informed we need to understand what we're doing we need to be educated most of all and so you know i think that you know it would be better perhaps you know if these companies provided us you know with a periodic intervals of you know our data privacy choices so that at least we know what's going on you know a lot of the times we inadvertently accept you know these data privacy choices and we don't know you know what they're doing with our data and so i think that the more users can be informed the more users can be educated the better decisions we can make overall what i find fascinating. because i was just smiling because their 1st royal york times is that a root some really good research and lilly's probably wrote this too on how
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difficult it is to read terms of service that are required to get in to sign up for these systems and often the reading was require almost a college education 2nd i think we've been socialized to such a degree that we just don't pay attention that actually some researchers at i think was york university included in a fake social network out that they were testing out in the final term was you assigned to us the rights to your firstborn child how can something like 98 percent is a absolute poem. but. really you know well and i think that really the onus is not on users it should not be on users you know who are just trying to live their lives you know do it for their families things like that like it is shouldn't be required that we have a i've got a quick question for you alex has sorry sam has seen me you have nothing i am wondering what do you know that the rest of us don't have doesn't just quit well how do what i was going to say was it's not it's not a sort of. big deal with to me and you know my life with these particular things
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and what i was going to say is there's a lot of places like all the 3rd party data sharing on social networks and things like that where it's just impossible for users and i chose to keep track of it all and i really do think the onus should be on the tech companies were 3rd parties or regulators or whatever you think not you know the way of our society but when it comes to something like slide assistance young thing like a potentially lot of mike in your house it's me it's a little bit creepy so that's like what i was a little bit creepy last was really thank a satisfaction. it sums up the conversation nicely thank you very much. so i'll end with this term and rae who pitched the idea for today show after seeing a show that we did on facial recognition and ray says i don't think the impact of technology is discussed much as it should be as such my suggestion is the impact of
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speech recognition attack and data privacy issues it may bring so and we hope that we did this topic justice for you alex and savvy rather than the thanks for being with us today you can always find a link i myself always online at a.j. steve on twitter see you next time and to watch. like qatar and experience economy tanks like this. qatar airways going places
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and it's being called a constitutional outrage and a coup british prime minister reports johnson has moved to suspend parliament until the middle of october so that his opponents have very little time to push through legislation preventing britain from crashing out of the european union without a deal roxette supporters though say it's a decisive move that respects the referendum verdict 3 years ago it's alive now to lawrence lee and london lawrence how significant is this this move in british political history. very i think is the word. you know never has a constitutional experts been in such high demand and people journalists have been saying to these people who pore over the history books when was the last time anything like this happened the parliament was suspended for 5 weeks and the answer they say was 945 the end of the 2nd world war went through the country had been through a gigantic crisis with a war of the hearts of europe and so that's why so many people say this is such
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a serious moment really does parliament actually have to be shut down at such an important time when the brakes a deadline is looming on the on the short horizon and really one of the most contradictory and confusing things or shell about. how both sides now in this debate both the leaf as and the remain as a trying to claim the democratic moral high ground because the liva say look. it was the will of the people the government has to get it through and if we don't do bricks in this country then some ocracy will die and yet their opponents the remaining say unless parliament has a say then democracy will die and they in turn are accusing the leaders of being involved in a coup against an accuracy. is and remains an idea about the british parliament taking back control of the agenda setting its own laws making its own
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rules so what to make of the decision by the new prime minister to block it from sitting at all for a 5 week period at the most crucial moment in the entire process with one on a very possible national election boris johnson insists it's about setting out his new government's plans and that m.p.'s are not being frozen out of having their say over bricks it will be time on both sides of that crucial october 17th summit ample time in parliament for m.p. . to debate the e.u. debate breaks it and all the other issues ample time but those m.p.'s who have vowed to do anything in their power to block a no deal bricks it's even threaten to set up an alternative parliaments if their views are ignored describe the johnson move as nothing short of a constitutional outrage a step on the road to dictatorship it is a constitution that rage this is an attempt by a prime minister who was elected by
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a very small number of people in the country is served to party membership to ride roughshod over parliament and prevent any legislation or debate that would stop this country leaving me you without a deal and all the problems that it will cause he seems to want to run headlong into the arms of donald trump. more determination to sing before this is extraordinary johnson had been thought to have been getting on better with european leaders of late and hope had not been lost among them that some new deal could be found but time is now extremely short and there's a genuine sense of crisis among those who fear the hardest of brics it's the great conundrum of a brecht it has always been whether it should simply fall to government through execute the will of the people or whether parliamentarian should have some kind of final say to determine what thought of brecht's it they think people actually voted for by taking m.p.'s out of play at such
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a crucial time johnson is effectively testing whether they have the will the resolve to try to overthrow him his government and potentially the referendum result as well that attempts will now probably come sooner rather than later national elections will almost certainly follow something surely must happen now to resolve this sense of democratic crisis in the u.k. are asking anybody to stop right now. well. for all the things that boris johnson said as you heard in that report about there being full time to discuss bricks it it really isn't true parliament returns next week only for 4 days. and there's no actual event which would allow him. to delay bricks it's they might charge organize a vote of no confidence in the government as suggested there was well it's not at
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all clear if they'd win that but then parliament suspended for 5 weeks or all the party conferences during that time and then it comes back on the 14th of october boris johnson delivers his policies judge all the queen's speech it's known only 2 days before the european council meets for its final one before before breakfast supposed to happen when in that time do they actually want all of all of the wherewithal to come up with some alternative plan that there is a plan being hatched in scotland to try to block the whole thing in the courts but it's not at all clear if that would only apply to scotland of the whole of the u.k. and. to come up with anything so it is it is by no means clear there are some people that think that behind the scenes that boris johnson will try to hatch out some new arrangement with the european union which is equally scared of no deal is . and then simply presents it's a parliaments around the time of that european council and say look it's either
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this or we leave without any deal in 11 days from now and would basically put the fear in peace to such an extent that they just agree to almost anything but that that in turn would suggest that any attempt to block. and revoke it would disappear completely. it's a former chief press officer at number 10 downing street and worked under david cameron enter a senay joins us live from london thank you for your time to jus see this coming. well the prime minister boris johnson has never ruled out that he would be considered for parliament so i think given that he's been speaking about it for a while it's not a complete surprise by do you think people. didn't expect it to in the way it happened today they probably thought that in terms of particularly following the
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mood music of the meetings with chancellor merkel and president on last week that maybe there was another way round this not the way to do this. but you know i think you also it was a going to show is the do or die mantra is real this is something the prime minister and his team have been talking about for a while and i think in a signal to his more harder line breaks a tear supporters he wants to show them that he means for he says and this is a very good way of doing it what do you make of what lawrence leigh is saying that there are some political watchers that have an idea that perhaps this is some sort of negotiating tactic if you will with the e.u. and that perhaps you know on the sidelines boris johnson is trying to work something out with them saying you know this this is what it is it's this and making that forcing the m.p.'s to to accept it. yeah and i think i think there's a lot there's a lot to that i mean i think the problem with that is that the e.u.
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are not interested in kind of arcane parliamentary procedures or in gimmicks what they are interested in is what will get through the house of commons in london what will actually get the votes they've been in the position where they've had their fingers burnt before where they read a deal with trees amaze government that deal was and vote down 3 times in the house of commons so i don't think that the e.u. will be in the business of making any new concessions or any new deals until they can test and test one of the house the problem being if the house of commons is not sitting for the next 5 weeks or so then it's not possible to do that it's not possible to see where m.p.'s are out so i think we then get to a position and the prime minister has said this in his letter today to various m.p.'s where the european council and toby will be quite critical and it will be a case of this is now what we've come to this is the agreement or there's no deal
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and the prime minister will then try and put the ball back into the court to be m.p.'s and he can then say world look i tried i tried to get a deal but parliament voted it down so the blame for no deal is then shared so i do think that that is kind of what is happening behind the scenes definitely. going to be a question either way they put a lawrence i really want your perspective on this can you put put this in some sort of context some sort of political history the fact that this has been going on for a year is and now it has come down to this type of political maneuver. yes so i mean you know on the face of it what the government is trying to do is completely what you'd expect them to do if you're a new government you know you have new ideas you want to not live in the shadow of the previous administrations so coming up with new laws and a clean speech is completely fine does when you expect them to do it's also the
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longest time that parliament has been in session really 400 years so again it probably is time for a break so all these things are true however the context of breaks it is what makes this so unusual and so kind of questionable i think people who are saying it's got nothing to do with trying to squeeze the time for m.p.'s to have have their way or blocking no deal that idea is i'm afraid for the birds clothing that's precisely what is what's happening here and i think from the m.p.'s perspective you know they're not thoughtless or blameless in this so they've had 3 years to come up with a solution and vote for something that they've consistently voted against something so now there's a sense of panic with only weeks to go that he's you know i'm afraid is they are running around like headless chickens trying to block no deal where actually they've had chances before to avoid be.

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