tv Talk to Al Jazeera In The Field - When A Journalist Becomes The Story Al Jazeera May 23, 2022 5:30pm-6:01pm AST
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intimidation, imprisonment, harassment, beatings. and at times, the loss of life group wednesday may, the 11th 613 a. m. we are on the way there. i will bring you news. as soon as the picture becomes clear. i'll g 0 correspondence sharina blackly emailed her colleagues at the regional bureau, god, a multi terrain was on assignment in the city of janine in the northern occupied west bank where she had been reporting on israeli army res of the refugee camp. just like she done countless times in her more than 25 years at al jazeera with it was just another day. but shortly after bringing some breaking news on al jazeera correspondent has been short, sharina blacklist, became the news which has been killed, shot in elbow. aqua was working in palestine. she was
a veteran correspondent. website is really forces at shutter and the head. oh, she was rushed to a hospital where she was declared dead at 713 a. m. o. according to the palestinian ministry of information. some 45 journalists had been killed by his ready forces since the year 2000. but sharing death shocked and resonated the world over. oh boy, throughout the years she positioned herself as an iconic narrator of the palestinian israeli struggle. corinne was known for going beyond the news to report the day to day lives of palestinians living under occupation. she visited their homes from hebron to nablus, janine to jerusalem with her reports beaming into households across the world, making her audience feel they knew her personally. ah 51 year old sharina continued to tell the palestinian story, even after her death,
as thousands gathered unoccupied east jerusalem for her funeral. and the calls it was starting its final journey is really bored to police, attack the procession, their actions forcing the pool bearers to almost dropped sharina coffin, seizing palestinian flags from warners. it drew unusual, widespread international condemnation. i'm stephanie decker in al jazeera studio in there. i'm a law in the occupied west bank on this edition of talk to al jazeera in the field . we not only explore the legacy of shitty and i will actually, but we look at the challenges of being a palestinian journalist reporting on a highly personal story fitting not the kind of person that can be forgotten. she's not the kind of person that shouldn't be forgotten, it's such a heavy burden that the immunity that is early on is having no one and they're not
being held accountable. no respect for that, that no respect for the living. nothing did do that. i like your view view months. every year we lose journalists on posters now they say the daughter of palestine, she and she was and we look at how the media is often directly targeted in making journalists at times. because the story the death of sharina blackly is a very personal story to those who worked alongside her and loved her. ronnie's about it is one of all g 0 producers in the occupied west bank. describe to me what she meant to you and what was she like? ah, she is genuine. smart, professional, funny. she wasn't either a mentor,
somebody you'd look up to. down to earth. i don't what ever you say about her as is always not enough. there is this thing about her when, when people say that somebody is out of this world, sometimes there are people out of this word livings amongst us and you dont realize that until they're gone, which is a bit sad. but i know she's that kind of person. there are probably like a 1000 war adjectives that i can use. ah, about should in was this what comes to mind now? on posters now? they said the daughter of palestine, she is, she was like, i'm, i'm, i'm so privileged to have known her let alone worked with her. i feel i'm on her and i'm proud. i'm humbled. am now, where were you when you 1st heard what went through your mind? i was at home, there are several journalist group on whatsapp and other social media apps like we
usually do. at 530 ish, my phone started to was on silent, but i could see the, the applications and where it's usually like there, then it's continuous. i know something gong is happening somewhere, so i woke up naturally started looking at my phone and i saw that the army was engineering. i thought the some other one of those another day, another day. it's simply just another day. there were voice notes and give him that i was looking at this while i'm already in bed. i put the phone like this and i heard somebody shouting shitty, shitty and she was hit. and i was like wait a 2nd which should in my heart fell, but i thought, you know what's, what's the worse and it may be rubber bullets. maybe something like that. so look up, started making phone calls. i called the guy who i thought would be with her,
just ask them if they're there or not. they said not them. then i called the hospital and he said yes, she just came in. she was shot in the face. so damn it's, it's probably stupid rubber bullet or something that's just going to ruin her face to 510 minutes later i called him, he said that he doesn't look good. we're still is it recessive dating her? that was you think something like that would happen to other people. you never think that it's going to be you or people you close to where people, you know, there's always danger in our job. right? we fool ourselves every time when we say we're good, we've got our helmet. we've got our flex, we're fine. we stand where the folks are everybody's lake. we're in this together. we've been into training a while. we know how it goes. we've been covering the same parenthood around you, lo it, you know, it, so you don't think it's going to happen to you just eliminate that as an option.
so no, yeah, no, either. you just don't think it's going to happen to you. you just rolled out simply just doodle it out. you work through those days. oh, well is that like, must have been extremely difficult for you emotionally. i feel like a rec, mentally, physically torn, but you know what? there's like a drive that keeps pushing you cause she deserved justice. and if it wasn't us, her colleagues and her friends who is gonna tell her story, did you have any doubt as to who shot her? no, no. i've been covering the space for long enough to know the sounds, the locations, the colleagues, the circumstances. lake eye witnesses said that there were no gunmen around
and i, knowing should in and knowing how my colleagues in al jazeera and, and in those areas work, there is no way they would have stood there. if there were a gunman in the area or close to them, you're back to work. now back in the office or how does that feel? i guess you been so busy covering right every day there was something you had to print. it was the funeral. you were working, you're not going to continue working, but it said the day after like how does, how does that feel when you come into the office now? empty coming and they used to go to their offices upstairs and oftentimes she'd be sitting there, you know, i'd come and say good morning. how are things we sit down? have a chat, what have you got up your sleeve with disgust? features ah, what's happening and what's not. and she's not there. her loss is painful, it's sad. makes me angry. but what makes me scared is that people might forget and
we shouldn't forget. she is not the kind of person that can be forgotten and she's not the kind of prison that should be forgotten. and so are duty on it's. it's such a heavy burden. were you surprised when you saw those shocking images at her funeral when they wanted to start leaving the hospital? it's insane. it's insane. for 25 years, she leon was covering the violations of the 3 occupation the oppression. but until the last minute they didn't give her piece of respect. she was in a coffin, she was in a casket carried like no respect for the dead. no respect for the living.
nothing tells you something about how israel's arrogance. you know, as i am not a political analyst, forget forget more. you've been covering this for years. i think your opinion is is valid. that's the thing. i'm shocked but not surprised. yeah, i'll do that. and why? i still know how, how did they sell it? and assailing media, i really don't know. i'm curious. can you sell such a thing? like what p r machine can? can cover whitewash. what you did to a coffin, and pul, better is anna. and a hearse. why? and the flag like really? how do you think she would feel her that she became the story? do you think she would have? she would have known that the also the love and respect and outpour of adoration that she had earned. she was loved no doubt. i'm sure she felt it. because she was
at peace with herself in general. but here being the surely and we know she's very humble when usually, and she is like part of our family at al jazeera, but the funeral and everything, the output of love and people is like, you know what, she's not hours anymore. she is, everybody's was a bit ah english arabic in my head now which ah, consoling. to see that to see the output of love or whatever she is. ah, i, i hope she knows how difficult is it um to operate as a palestinian journalist. we don't think about it a lot and when we do, there is always this laundry list of you start going checkpoints,
access to information ah, being harassed or being shot out to never put on dead on the list. then when you do, you don't take it personally. going to janine at checkpoints, there are, those are military towers, right. and there's always a soldier with a gun pointed that you for every palestinian, this became part of the scene pretty much. but that day i remember passing, so checkpoints and i'm just looking at them like i, we crazy guys or with crazy goes it's, it's there every day, every few meters and we just passed that. you mean it's normalized? it's normalized and it's scary. we shouldn't normalize the occupation, we shouldn't. do you think something is going to change now because i, i do feel in a way, again, there's been a spotlight on this issue that has become normalize. i mean, politically,
you have arab states, normalizing relations with israel, jerusalem, and the palestinians was always a big call of the cause. right. and do you think this is going to change anything? i hope it does, but i'm afraid it's not that my fear goes of. we've been covering all of us, we've been covering this long enough to know that in a week in a month, in a few months, the story dies down because it's so it is, it's the way it is. and it scares me their children is just gonna be another one. i dont mean bad. they don't mean to be little. anybody who was killed for the cause. right. but the same time it shouldn't be the case. somebody should be held accountable because otherwise he didn't use of sharon's death whose chum waves amongst the millions of viewers who had watched her reports for years. the
2nd. oh we announced her death and she was killed. i swear there's like here, like at least 1000 people like in this square meters. i swear you had them. they were here. journalist. like regular letter buddy. bye. exactly. yeah. when, when she went down, when that when they brought her down, all these people, they were here in the office crying and like holding her pictures and making phone calls on like posting photos and remember, and shitty and, and people, they found out how much they luxury you were working the night before? yes. so she was in the teams overnighting and janine covering basically what is a daily occurrence prima actually. so since like the whole like her, this wave of escalation, we wanted to have a crew all the time over there. and on tuesday evening, i was here working and i was coordinating with her on what's up and then i say to her, oh get some rest. you know,
you never know what's gonna happen. that's it. and then she called me around 8 30 pm on tuesday. and we discussed about her like rotation with another one. and if i can do something on wednesday morning, the morning she does, she could, she was killed to bring her back to junior to m a long thursday. and the of i said are okay. yeah, for sure. should in i will make sure that you leave on on thursday. unfortunately, she came on thursday to the president office under your under ha, cough. and on wednesday, on wednesday morning i got this phone call from a friend or his a journalist from janine. it was 6 23 am in the morning and he goes to me with sam . i awake. i said, no, you just woke me up. i said to him, what's going on? he said to me, giovanni was shot in jeanene. i said, no, not javan. that javan. this is shaheen. and then i say he said to me,
just look at the video. and i watched the video, it was like for 8 seconds. maybe they were holding shaheen. i'm trying to put her on the, on, on the car, inside the car, completely. i'm on denial. because now the funerals over the main event over now, you're back in the office. right. how. how does that still hard. that's why i told you. it's personally and professionally. it's 2, it's 2 levels. oh, it's going to be too hard. and i remember when, when, when, when i have received the, the videos were taken and shot by my colleague mister, you was with her. we received the video. i couldn't watch it, but while i was sending the material to doha, i was shaking like this because this is the 1st time i'm saying, this is their rushes, the rushes of. ah, the merchant shilling. that was still hard for me. how dangerous is it?
how unpredictable is it to work here, even when i don't think anyone is better? first thing you guys are local journalist coverage constantly. you know the language at this place. you know how i like usually when we go to any place when like, and is really miller to military operations like happening and they are coming to arrest some one, you know, they start to surround the area. so we always go by groups wearing the helmet and the flak jacket exactly, just they can see us. you know, we want them to see us because usually target you. yes. yes. like every few months, every year, we lose journalists. sometimes they shoot you without any once. do you think something will change? do you think should ins, i hope put it other spotlight on. i hope i hope that the death of shooting change or the mentality under the way of like what israel doing with the,
with their journalist. i wish i wish i understand journalists have often been at the receiving end of these rady armies use of force. how dangerous is it operating here? as a journalist? i mean, there is a language right that you understand after years recovering the ground. but this still is no language. there is no language, there is no wonder standing because it was in the beginning even during the invasion like me. i city, we're like playing between tanks and helicopters, shooting and warming and everything. but there was with spectrum. there was a space of respect in which we are journalists. we are not part of this, or part of that is really are now with spect us as a to not arrows respect that no one will come close to you. but for the last 5 years, there was a huge shift in that and you ship like on the ground,
you ship, they don't was but that you were a journalist. he, i've worried my best prop pressed. i had millions of videos being on air pushed by israeli soldier or pepper like their parent might say, yeah, my face or feeling the gone like the 2nd time my 3rd time i was shot. i was shot by purpose. it wasn't by mistake. it multiple times, 3 times. the 1st time was on purpose, 3rd time was on purpose only one time it was by mistake. like i was just in, in the way. why do you think there's been the shift in the last 5 years? what change do you think about the immunity that the is early on is having no one and they're not being held accountable for what they're doing? like you can kill me and be free to do what that whatever you want with your life. how would you describe operating as a, is there a difference between policy and journalist or foreign journalist who come in? yes, of course, how many times you go to do a 2000. many, never been,
never been there. and every time there's a big operation and goes out there with fuse, our permit, you were able to go to jerusalem to cover the funeral. i had to escape to hills to come to, to my friend, to my sister funeral. because they didn't give me a permit. what's it like covering your living it like can you detach yourself personally from covering it? is it possible? it's not possible. it's not possible because that's what she what that what made kidding so different that what made should in so different that she was telling the story offered daily struggle with being able to detach and put it out there away from her after the shooting. i don't know how good i will be it back like i was. i try. but
i don't know how good i'm going to be about. you angry? i'm chris up and of course i am good. what do you think? she was going to own a quiet time. that's the thing. it was. no, it was so quiet. it was so quiet. it wasn't a big operation. it wasn't. it wasn't a big population. she was going there like i'm gonna go and setting the hotel and be bored and come back and i'm just going to waste my time that i have to be spending with my family. yes ma'am. yes. you were at her cost. good. yeah. what happened? nothing. nothing, nothing. they just opened the door of the house, but also we can move. and then suddenly they start attacking and i was like letty and her knees. they were just holding the casket and going out.
it's only your way to warn your friend. it's only your right to walk in her funeral. it's a traditional thing. it's not political, it's traditional. it's pure traditional. you don't take the casket in the car and my culture in our culture we walk, holding because whether it's janine or a little baby worth, anyone. it wasn't specially for shooting that we want to hold the casket and walk. it's a cultural thing. you wanna, you wanna cancel this cultural part of chevy is funeral for what i mean. what, what would she do? people who are saying goodbye. what will this mean? people will say this is the occupation, but this does not have it. this is no, i don't think we've seen there. no, no, no, no,
this is not occupation on site. i was standing because i had also to jump they closed the door, they didn't allow anyone and i wondered about that in a lean on. so i carnita this is i want to get there in any way, so i had to jump from the door before i didn't jump, i was standing in front of the so right. i also said this picture, and i'm saying on the system i want to go in. he was laughing, laughing, looking, get me and laughing. this is not occupation. have you see something like this before we've seen? no, no. i haven't seen anything like this before. no. no, in a funeral, no. like it's human humanity. it's beyond humanity. what happened is beyond humanity is a lot of engine spotlight. all right. it's about time. yeah.
because we got to a point where our left doesn't matter. we're just going to be numbers. numbers with no justice with no pay back. why is it fair that at the same day should in passed away, that there's the student who was killed by israel is sniper and then beat it on his way back from school. why, tommy, why would a kid holding the stones with all the ammunition that you have deserved been killed? we got to a point where i would like for some matter in terms of when you're dealing with the occupation dealing with your job, dealing with, do you feel something has changed with change? how you're going to operate, how you're going to move forward? of course not. of course not. now, i really want to go back to the field more. i want to keep on telling the story
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