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after eight months of bloodshed, there is meant to be a cease-fire between ukraine and pro-russian rebels in donetsk. our correspondent reports from the front line on a very different reality. you can hear the shelling behind me in the airport area. we're in a trench close to the airport. there is no cease-fire. it's an illusion. also coming up on "gmt," aaron is with us. a big u-turn from the russian president. >> yep, vladimir putin says he is scrapping that $40 billion plan to build a new gas pipeline to supply southern europe because of the eu's reluctance to support it. the president now wants a path line through turkey. so we're going to find out what this means for europe and why is turkey forming closer ties with russia.
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>> it's midday here in london, 7:00 a.m. in washington, and 3:00 p.m. in kenya, where there has been another vicious attack carried out by the somali militant group al shabaab. this time, gunmen crossed over into kenya and killed 36 workers in a quarry near the northern town of mandera. they targeted mostly christian workers after separating them from muslims. we've had to blur most of the footage coming in from the scene because of its gruesome nature. last week, al shabaab militants killed 28 non-husband hims when they attacked a bus in the same part of the country. the group has stepped up its campaign inside kenya. we are expecting to hear from the kenyan president shortly. he is due to give a press conference, and we will bring that to you here on "bbc world news." but first, here is more now on who al shabaab are and their recent activity.
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>> let's take you over to our correspondent tom burridge, who is in nairobi for us. we're expecting kenyatta to address the nation at any time. what do you think he'll say? >> reporter: i think he'll say we're not going to surrender to what he calls terrorists. kenya and a lot of other governments around the world consider al shabaab to be a terrorist group. i think we'll just get uncompromising language from the kenyan president within the next half an hour or so, if it's not delayed further. but, you know, there's obviously another narrative, which al shabaab is trying to portray. it's a chilling and stark
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narrative. and not only i think aimed at the kenyan president, but also aimed at the kenyan public, and it's this. al shabaab is saying you have kenyan troops in somalia, you carry out kenyan air strikes on apparent al shabaab targets in somalia and this is the result. a lot of people will condemn the attacks and find that message completely abhorrent and uncomfortable. but at the same time, there is a growing debate i think here in kenya. kenyan troops first went into somalia in 2011. there is a serious of attacks about whether they are just decreasing the internal security of kenyans living at home. >> how much coordination is there between kenya and somalia and trying to tackle the threat from al shabab? >> reporter: a lot. it's not just the kenyan government and the somali government. the ugandans are involved.
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the ethiopians are involved. they're all part of an african mission. some 20,000 troops based in somalia. there is u.s. support. there is uk support in a sort of advisory role in this region to deal with security threats. and of course, everyone knows that the main secret threat is deemed to be al shabab. but it's a hugely complicated topic. not only in somalia itself, but of course, up in this region of kenya where these attacks, these latest attacks have taken place. there are clan-b based loyaltie. it is a complex picture up in that part of the country. and as of yet, of course, the kenyan security services are struggling to get a grip on the security there.
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>> thanks for that update. with me here in the studio, from the africa program at chatham house. is kenya capable of dealing with this? >> i think the fact that kenya is facing such trouble shows the real level of insecurity and the level that al shabab poses, not just to kenya, but the whole region. >> how much support does al shabab have inside kenya, though? >> i think one thing al shabab has been successful at is exploiting community grievances, including muslim communities in kenya. there is definitely a danger. if it manages to exploit these further within kenya, the problem will become much worse. >> but we're seeing pictures now of this horrific attack overnight, and there very much was a religious element. with once again, the christians being separated from the muslims
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and being killed. this is stirring up very particular feel flgs the north of the country. >> yes, sort of an actual aim of al shabab to stir up religious tension. of course, we've seen attacks happening in kenya that have killed a number of muslims as well, including somali kenyans and somali refugees, so it isn't necessarily that the group has been very adept at targeting christians only. but i think by trying to stoke up this religious tension, it is trying to undermine the kenyan state. >> and is there a message coming through at all for moderate muslims trying to combat what al shabab is doing? >> there definitely is messages coming out from the moderate muslim community. many of the key figures in that community are not necessarily happy with what the government is doing in terms of action such as an action which we saw earlier this year which involved the rounding up of thousands of somali kenyans in an attempt to try and minimize the security threat. but in fact, it actually
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instigated further anger against the government, amongst the muslim community. >> so you think they need to do more? >> i think they are doing what they can. they knead to have more attention and maybe there needs to be more organization. but it's a difficult job. we saw the killing of sheik mohamed idris earlier this year. >> how much pressure is kenyatta under? when we saw the bus attack just last week, he was in abu dhabi at the time, something he came under huge counterterroriritici. are the people in kenya really looking to him to come up with some kind of solution now? >> they are. and i think that pressure is growing. it's been there since the westgate attack at the end of last year, and there were promises of an inquiry that never really developed. so there's still questions remaining over that attack. if terrorist attacks continue to occur in kenya without a real clear government line being taken afterwards to investigate how these elements are getting
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into the country and where these grievances are coming from, i think that pressure on kenyatta will grow. >> thank you very much for joining us here on gsmt. let's bring you up to date with some other news. a wife and son of the islamic state chief abu bakr al baghdadi were detained at the border with syria ten days ago. the arrest is a blow to baghdadi and could be used as a bargaining chip against islamic state, which has captured many prisoners in syria and iraq. the president of taiwan has just stepped down as party chairman of the ruling nationalist party. follows heavy defeats in local elections at the weekend. in a statement, he said he holds himself responsible for the defeat. the nationalist losses indicate widespread anxiety about his drive towards closer economic and political ties with china. three founding members of hong kong's pro-democracy occupy movement say they'll hand themselves in to police on wednesday. they've also urged student
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protesters who are still out on the streets to retreat and to find other ways to bring about democratic change. occupy central's founders have accused the government of acting beyond reason in monday's violent clashes between police and protesters. >> we are furious at the government's heartless indifference. a government that used police batons to maintain its authority is a government that is beyond reason. for the sake of the occupy safety, for the sake of our original intention of love and peace, as we prepare to surrend surrender, we urge the students to retreat. to put down deep roots in the community and transform the movement to extend the spirit of the umbrella movement. >> so is there any willingness amongst the student protesters to heed those calls for a mass retreat? our correspondent john sudworth has been with students at their main protest camp in hong kong's
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admiralty district. >> reporter: the three leaders who made their statement today are important voices, but they are not the only voices or leaders of this movement, of course. but the statement is at least a recognition that this movement has now reached a more difficult, unpredictable phase. numbers are down, probably just a few hundred or so at this main protest site at the moment, and the police response, as we've seen in the past few days, has been toughened. and yet, there has been no similar suggestion of a withdrawal from the leaders of the student groups involved. as you can see, there is no frantic packing away of the tents at the moment. well, let's talk to a couple of students now about how they're reacting to benny thai's call for a retreat. masie and janice, what do you
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make of mr. thai's statement that it's time to go home? >> i disagree with his statement, because he's not respecting all of the protesters here. some of the protesters may think they have to leave here. some of them may want to elevate the level of protest. >> reporter: janice, you were there for some of those scenes of violence the other night. doesn't benny tai have a point that the longer this goes on, the more risk there is of somebody getting hurt? you've made your point. isn't it time to go home? >> not just me, but every one of us here are in danger, actually. i cannot just stay home and watch them on the front line getting hurt. i will still come out and stand firm. >> you're both high school students. i know you were studying, so i'll let you get back to your books. no appetite from this tent at
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least for a retreat from these protests. part of the problem, of course, is that this is a disparate, complex movement. there is no one leader that speaks for these protests. and although there's a consensus that this must come to an end at some time, either through force or fatigue, there is a significant number of people who think that time has not yet come. >> john sudworth there. some young protesters in hong kong. do stay with us on "bbc world news." still to come. is the hiv virus becoming less deadly as it evolves? that's the claim on a new study. we'll speak to the lead researcher. e nation's most relig lte network. how's it working for ya? better than ever. how'd you do it? added cell sites. increased capacity. and your point is... so you can download music, games, and directions for the road when you need them. who's this guy? oh that's charlie. you ever put pepper spray on your burrito? i like it spicy but not like uggggh spicy. he always like this? you have no idea. at&t. the nation's most reliable 4g lte network.
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hiv is evolving to become less deadly and less infectious. according to a major study by scientists at the university of oxford. they say the virus gets watered down as it adapts to our immune
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systems. reduced ability to replicate means that the virus is harder to catch and it also takes longer to cause aids. scientists compared two african countries to explain their findings. the epidemic took off in the mid 1980s in botswana, compared with the mid '90s in south africa. so hiv in botswana has had about a decade longer to evolve. its ability to replicate is 10% lower in botswana. a typical patient is developing aids about two and a half years later than they did at the start of the botswana epidemic. i'm joined from oxford now by professor phillip golder. thank you for being with us. these findings seem very exciting. were you surprised by how quickly hiv is evolving? >> absolutely. we know that hiv is adapting very rapidly to the best immune responses that we're able to generate against it.
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but i think the impact of this adaptation we didn't really expect to see over the course of a period like a decade. and we've looked at the countries that have been the worst affected by the epidemic and where we'd be most likely to see these effects, and that's what we've seen. >> how does it water itself down? >> well, one tends to think of hiv as causing aids in most people, and that is the case, but there is a small percentage, about half a percent of people who are infected who actually can control the virus completely, suppressing the virus through their own immune responses without any therapy. and the virus is in a situation where it can either be completely suppressed or it can generate some escape mutations that actually reduce its ability to replicate efficiently. and it's the accumulation of these costly escape mutations over the course of time that
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actually in the end are bringing the virus to this watered down version of what it was ten, 20, 30 years ago. >> so what role have anti-retrovirals played? >> it has played a role, and it will increasingly play a role, because the people who are treated with retro anti-viral therapies, these are the people who actually have the viruses, that are most likely to cause disease. they're the ones that replicate most rapidly and efficiently. so if those people are treated and their viral replication is completely suppressed by the drugs, then that no longer transmit the virus and the viruses left to be transmitted are the more watered down version. >> do you think we're going to eventually see a time where hiv is completely harmless then, it's been so watered down? >> well, i mean, it's worth emphasizing that we're a very long way from that time when hiv is a harmless virus. i mean, hiv is certainly far
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from being a harmless virus. we're probably talking about a 25% increase in the time, as you mentioned at the beginning, the time from hiv infection to aids in that population. but we have seen in the course of evolution other viruses related to hiv 1, there's a virus called hiv 2 which affects people in west africa, and that generally doesn't cause aids. i guess the trend that we've seen the last ten years, if that were to be replicated over the next tens of decades, we might start to perceive not just one in 200 people controlling the virus, maybe 5%, 10%, and perhaps even more controlling the virus. >> fa >> fascinating research. thank you for joining us. pro-russian rebel forces in eastern ukraine have agreed in principle to a cease-fire with the ukrainian army, but so far
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in luhansk, one of the two regions of the rebel-held east. theoretically, there was already a peace deal in place, which was brokered by russia in september. but it's been breached numerous times. hundreds have died since then. some of the worst fighting has been in and around the airport in donetsk, a city still under rebel control. our correspondent has been there and has been speaking to some of the civilians trapped by the fighting as winter closes in. >> reporter: only the fighters are this far forward. concealed in ruins, or in bunkers around the airport's fringe. as we stopped by the roadside, shelling erupted. the trees here shredded by flying metal. we waited for a pause in the firing. you can hear the shelling here
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behind me. we're in a trench close to the airport. there is no cease-fire. it's an illusion. then the voice of a rebel soldier. it's from the airport direction, he said. showing where shells had struck in recent days. eyewitness images show the fierce struggle in which both sides have killed civilians. a war started by the rebels, supported by russia, but which nobody is winning. around 1,000 people have been killed since the cease-fire. in hospital we met civilians wounded in bombing that killed a 12-year-old boy. locals say he was decapitated by a ukrainian army shell. this woman's son-in-law was wounded. she's struggling to take care of her grandchildren. "i'm not alone here, there are many people in the same situation, grandmothers and grandfathers. go and see them."
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we did. hiding in basement shelters near the front line. among nearly half a million displaced people. and if you're elderly and you've been used to living in your own flat all of your life, this really is a pitiful situation to find yourself in. everybody i've spoken to here talks about listening to the shelling constantly. this man and his daughter have lived here for four months. he's terrified to venture out. "our flat doesn't exist anymore," he told me. "there's no door, there's no glass. we came here for peace and quiet." under the streets of a european city, they feel forgotten by the world. and just outside, these rebels were guarding tanks. they wouldn't let us film the armor stationed next to a civilian shelter, but we managed to take a photograph.
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winter has deepened the hardship for millions. this is still in rebel territory, and still a war zone. as it was in the autumn when we last visited. only now, nobody seems to pay any notice to the sound anymore. the government has stopped paying pensions and welfare. they tell the rebels it's their job now. "we haven't had our pension for five months," the woman says, "and i can't go anywhere else, there's nowhere else for me to live." mines and factories have closed. livelihoods have been destroyed, and schools shut. these women were getting some air when the shelling started again. below in the shelter, children are crowded this with their parents. they've created their own community of support. we sleep here and hide here from the bombing, says sabina.
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"they bring us food. we're scared to go up to the surface. and when someone starts crying, we play games." they know the cease-fire is a fiction. a promise broken every day. bbc news, donetsk. >> we're going to take you straight to nairobi now. the president of kenya uhuru kenyatta is addressing the nation about an attack by the militant group al shabab in the northeast of the country that killed 36 people. let's listen in. >> the decades of horror, fear, outrage, and frustration, we resolve as a nation to protect our sovereignty by pursuing our enemiy iey ies beyond our borde somalia. by mid 2011, it had become clear that our long border with an ungoverned territory, teeming with violent criminals, was a threat to our national
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stability. joining military efforts to bring peace to somalia was the inevitable answer to our terror and security threats. in october 2011, the government authorized the kdf to pursue al shabab militia into somalia. this decision was right then and remains so today. following requests by regional, continental, and global actors, kdf joined in february 2012. to date, we remain part of the african union mission. the incursion in somalia has been largely successful. al shabab is depleted and on the retreat. however, etch in its diminished
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state, it remains a threat to our nation. in desperation, al shabab formally affiliated itself in 2012 to al qaeda, the international terrorist group. this way, they secured resources and the able to infiltrate civilian populations and recruit, then radicalize kenyan youth to execute attacks within our communities. this is why we have witnessed intensified extremist rhetoric against the kdf campaign inside somalia as well as support for murder and impunity. this reprehensible rhetoric has embrasd al qaeda's extremist ideas of setting up an islamic caliphate in eastern africa.
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places of worship have become fertile places for recruitment and several mosques have been in the past taken over by radic radicalized terrorist sympathizers and accomplices. dear kenyans, all recent attacks bear the terrorist signature. last week's bus attack was accompanied by the same typical terrorist rhetoric. a few months ago, the attack bearing the same hallmarks. and last night, a terrorist attack that brought unspeakable devastation, was successfully repulsed in wajir, and early this morning the attack in mandera left 36 kenyans dead. these attacks follow a pattern
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identical to the attacks on christians in lamu, the attacks in labasa. the obvious intent is to create hostility and suspicion across ethnic and religious lines, and to drive non-muslims from certain parts of this country. the ultimate aim of this atrocious campaign is to establish an extremist caliphate in our region. dear kenyans, a time has come for each and every one of us to decide and choose. are you on the side of an open, free, democratic kenya, which respects the rule of law, sanctity of life and freedom of worship, or do you stand with a repressive, intolerant, and murderous extremists?
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dear kenyans, terrorism and violent crime are a grave threat to our nation. we are in a war against terrorists in and outside our country. with the aid of sympathizers, supporters and collaborators among our communities, terrorists have retaliated viciously to deter us from our determined effective and successful effort to rid the horn of africa of violent extremism. we will not flinch or relent in the war against terrorism in our country and our region. we shall helicopter to inflict painful casualties on these terrorists until we secure our country and region. our stability and prosperity depends on a secure neighborhood. and this is our commitment. we ask every kenyan to take a
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principal stand against evil of terror and to support this war. we are in this together. innocent kenyan lives have been lost in the most harrowing manner to these animals. too many lives, too painfully snuffed out. again, i extend condolences to the families of all kenyans, who have lost their lives in the hands of terrorists. my government continues to extend support to you, and we pray that god gives you divine solace and comforts each of you in this painful moment. in our shock, bitterness, and outrage, many kenyans, leaders included, have lost sight of the context of this situation. and the scale of the war on terror. kenya is at war. and our enemy thrives on sewing
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panic and didespondency in our hearts. terrorist efforts bear fruit at 100 fold when we see things their way. with count nances of fear -- countenances of fear, anger and despair. we become their acome politicians when we shout at each other. this is a war against kenya and kenyans. it is not a war against the jubilee government or its leaders. it is a war that every one of us must fight. our bickering only emboldens the ene enemy. our national conversation,
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whatever its temper, is facilitated by our media. the media must step back from being an inert funnel of sentiments, opinions and messages, and become a true mediator and an honest broker of the national discourse. the media must not allow intemperate, intolerant, divisive, alarmist and stigmatizing views. ideas that profile and victimize kpl communities and individuals serve the precise aims of our enemies. media serving as a platform for incendiary and toxic interaction is dangerous for our neighborhood. >> we are listening to the president of kenya, uhuru kenyatta, addressing the nation.
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he is live at the moment in nairobi. and really, it's a rallying cry to kenyans. he is talking about the war against kenya, and kenyans and saying that every person in the country has to take a stand against terrorism. he said there was a war inside and outside kenya and he said we will not flinch in our war against these terrorists. what he is referring to is the ongoing battle against the somali militant group als shaba. he's had to respond to an attack in the northeast of the country today, where militants from al shabab killed 36 workers at a quarry in the northeast of the country. but what is remarkable about what happened here, is that the attackers came in the night to the tents you can see here and they separated christian and muslim workers and then killed, shot and beheaded some of the christians. so you can see those pictures
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there. we have blurred them because they are so gruesome, but that is what president kenyatta is responding to today in nairobi. we'll keep across the rest of that statement and bring you more as soon as we get it. let's move on now. while the loss of life and suffering caused by ebola is immeasurable in west africa, the cost of the region's economy is also devastating. the world bank says that sierra leone and guinea's economies are predicted to shrink next year. the forecast expansion of liberia's economy has also been revised downwards. this is a region that relies heavily on agriculture. has been a huge drop in productivity. with me now in the studio is the president of the international fund for agricultural development. thank you very much for being with us. how has more specifically ebola affected all these rural areas in west africa? >> well, thank you very much.
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i'm really pleased that we have the opportunity here to speak about the secondary effect of this disease on the population. most of the infection started in the rural areas of guinea, liberia, and sierra leone. and these are rural populations whose primary livelihoods depend on farming, so essentially you have farmers who were too sick or too scared to farm. and crops have been left in the field to rot. unable to harvest them. so looking at an impending food crisis in these three countries. and just as you said in your introductory statement, there have been blockages. so food imports are certainly going to impact original trade as well as, of course, the fact that these countries, particularly liberia and sierra
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leone depend a lot on heavily imported rice into these countries. so there is an impact first in food and security in the countries themselves. access to financial services to be able to buy imports as well as ensure that we have massive supply of food assistance. the world food program is doing excellent work, providing food assistance to affected community. >> we're talking about communities here that had poor infrastructure anyway, poor
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communities, too. >> yes. this is actually because of very poor, you know, health services, infrastructure, roads, and what have you. and village communities, rural communities were left to themselves. they died in the dozens. so we're looking at multiple situation here. one, of course, is having the right political engagement, commitment to the infrastructure development, and having farmers having access also to be able to buy it, access to markets. >> thank you very much for being with us here on gm. >> thank you. do stay with us here on "bbc world news." still to come, we look into rumors that north korea is linked to a cyber attack that shut down the sony network. the country is furious about the release of a film that pokes fun at their leader kim jong un. you loved brad. and then you totaled him.
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i'm lucy hockings. our top story this hour. militants from al shabab say they carried out the killing of 36 quarry workers in northeastern kenya. the christian workers were separated from the muslim workers and they were the ones that were killed. in the past few minutes or so, we have heard from the kenyan president uhuru kenyatta who said the country is at war against terrorists both inside and outside the country, and there's a war that kenyans will not flinch from. we also have some breaking news to bring you from nairobi. we are hearing that the police inspector general in kenya has said he will resign. it follows this criticism of
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insecurity in the country, particularly in the northeast where we saw this attack today in the northeast of the country and one last week on a bus as well. so that breaking news coming to us from the police inspector general will resign. time now to bring you up to date with the business. aaron is with us now. quite the u-turn from vladimir putin. >> quite a big u-turn. could have a bit of an impact on southern europe and gas supplies. let me explain. good to see you, lucy. hello there. vladimir putin, russian president has announced that russia is scrapping plans for a new gas pipeline to supply southern europe, bypassing -- the plan was for it to bypass ukraine. mr. putin says the project is being ditched basically due to the eu's reluctance to support it. now, the south stream pipeline planned to -- let's show you here. planned to supply 63 billion cubic meters of gas, natural gas a year. that's equivalent to more than 10% of european demand, from russia via the black sea into,
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of course, the eu, the european union. it was planned to be up and running by the end of this decade. certainly cementing russia's role as the region's dominant supplier. but it's come under increasing fire this year. of course, the crisis over ukraine led to brussels freezing its approval process and the pipeline had trouble over weaker european gas decline and the falls in energy prices. president putin, he has now proposed building a new pipeline through turkey instead, offering turkey gas at a discounted rate. let's get more on this. an associate fellow at the russian and eurasian program joins us. great to have you with us. we understand, of course, these western sanctions against russia, but some may be wondering why the eu was so reluctant so have a new gas pipeline that would have bypassed ukraine so no more disruptions when those two had a gas spat, and considering parts of europe still rely heavily on russian gas.
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>> i think the answer is that the eu saw this as a largely politically driven project. not so much a commercial project, with the explicit aim of isolating ukraine. in other words, it was bypassed infrastructure. you've got around 50% of russia's gas exports to europe coming through ukraine. so if suddenly ukraine didn't have those revenues, became less strategically important to europe, this was actually going to change something in the balance of power in russia's relations with ukraine and more broadly with europe. so i think with great reluctant to sanction a project of that kind, when it became clear that russia had a very specific aim towards ukraine, namely to stop it integrating in a westerly direction. >> you know, we know that turkey, for example, off the back of these western sanctions, turkey's benefiting quite nicely. huge increases in its exports, agriculture, seafood to russia, just as a couple of examples. does it make sense for turkey to agree on something like this, a
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pipeline through turkey from russia? >> turkey already buys quite significant amounts of gas from russia. it can see significant benefits from being a transit country in this case. but i think the real question is, is this project really going to happen? the russians are talk about taking the same volume, 63 billion cubic meters per anum, through turkey, off loading 13 or so in turkey itself, and the rest being taken then to the turkish greek border for onward supply into southern europe. this is going to require substantial investment, expansion of some existing infrastructure. and at the same time, russia wants to build significant pipelines to china to start the real development of gas cooperation with china. so there's an awful lot there on gazprom's table, and it looks to be extremely challenging to do
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all that. >> yeah, there's beginning to be a wait and see, i am sure. short and sweet, but we appreciate your time. thank you. john lough talking to me there. let's stay with russia. some of the stories making headlines, starting with russia, because the russian government has for the first time acknowledged that the country will fall into recession next year. certainly battered by the combination of western sanctions and a plunge in the price of its oil exports. today the economy minister said that he has significantly reduced its outlook for the country's gdp next year. they're expecting growth. what they're expecting now is contraction, a backwards step of 0.8%. staying with oil, because i tell you what it hasn't helped the russian economy in the last few months. it's the plunging price of oil. but after dipping as low as $67.60 a barrel, that was yesterday, brent crude, that is, it's bounced back a little bit. it's now $72.80 and as a result, shares in oil companies and the
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russian ruble have also bounced back today. and that pull pause in the sli oil price hasn't helped nigeria, though. the country's central bank intervened to prop up the currency. in the last few hours, nigeria has strengthened against the dollar, after the central bank intervened for that third time. think about these. the worldwide web, the telephone. the telephone, the telephone, the jet engine. but all british inventions that have changed the world. although new research now warns that the uk is in danger of losing its inventive streak, unless more is done to foster future inventive thinkers. the bt's great british invention report says there is widespread crisis of confidence in britain's inventive future. this is fascinating stuff.
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anna cleary is the founder of copper clothing, which makes clothing with anti- -- properties that could be used to fight msa or even ebola. she came up with the idea whilst trying to find a solution to smelly dog begs. how do i say that? >> anti-microbial. >> there you go. >> the study says is that when kids are 10 to 12-year-olds, they feel very inventive, very creative. but by the time they reach maybe 16, that's all lost. is that the case, and why? what's the problem? >> that is correct. 54% of 12-year-olds actually feel that they are inventive thinkers. by the time they reach 16 years old, that drops dramatically to 32%. now, i think the problem is that within schools, there isn't
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really -- inventive thinking is not being taught to these children. i think it's something that's very important, to get them thinking about inventions. and the historical idea of an inventor is usually a man in a lab or shed creating something genius, but we need to change those stereotypes. i think a lot of children do believe -- they do have ideas, but they just don't necessarily have the channels to be able to put these ideas across. >> and i have to take my hat off to you, because you're doing that at 19 years old. you can't see it, but what i'm showing the audience around the world is this odorless doggie basket here. this is how the whole idea started. on top of that, you've created clothing range, socks, bedding. tell us, how does a high school kid come up with an idea of putting copper into these things and creating what you've done? >> well, my initial idea was actually -- was, yes, to create an odorless dog bed. i initially used bamboo
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material, but it didn't work the way i wanted to. i could have given up, but i felt that i could go somewhere with this. so i approached a local inventor who was very encouraging, and together we researched and developed different anti-bacterial fabrics. and we came up with the idea of actually infusing copper into these fabrics. >> and that's the material that prevents hopefully things like mrsa and their carrying it on. anything else in the pipeline? >> that's correct. i am aiming to get my fabrics used in the nhs. they are being trialed to be used in the nhs. my fabrics are hoping to have an effect on the ebola crisis in terms of being able to supply my products and eventually, hopefully save a number of lives while restricting the spread of the infection. >> and just briefly also, just
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to end on this, you mentioned the problems. i mean, what do you think needs to be done? i mean, we need more support teams. people like you going out to schools and talking to the kids. you know, if you can do it, they can do it, right? >> definitely. i think we really need to work on changing the stereotypes of invent inventors. i am an example of an inventor today and this is what invention looks like and i think it's something we really need to get across, which is why i took part in the national inventors day. it's really important to be able to nurture these children's inventive potential. we need to from provide children with the support and the backing to share their ideas. no idea is too small. no idea is too big. so i feel that it's very important that we get in the minds of parents and teachers so that they are able to put these things into children's minds so that they can pursue any inventive ideas they have. >> well, you're a star, amber, and we take our hat off to you. good luck with everything. we appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> and i'm keeping the dog basket. i'm joking.
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lots going on. i don't have a dog. follow me on twitter. but seriously, in high school -- >> she's an inspiration. >> what was i doing in high school? >> i hope she's having a good time as well. >> if you have a dog, you put a smelly baby in there. >> babies don't smell like that, aaron. let's move on to the fbi who is warning right now of a cyber threat that follows an attack on sony pictures last week. the hack shut down its network and put out a number of unreleased films on the internet. in a plot twist, the attack is rumored to have a possible north korean link. north korea has refused to deny involvement and it's known that they are furious over the release of a film that pokes fun at their leader kim jong un. here's alistair leithead with more. >> it was a gift to my grandfather from stalin. >> in my country, it's pronounced stallone. >> reporter: north korea doesn't find it funny.
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>> no, don't touch. >> reporter: the interview pokes fun at kim jong un and the secluded nuclear nation is apparently extremely offended by the plot line. >> take him out. >> you want us to kill the leader of north korea? >> yes. >> what? >> reporter: they're very, very angry and they've written a letter to ban ki-moon to tell him how angry they are. and in a conspiracy worthy of its own film script turns out to be true, it's cost sony dear. the studio is still reeling from a cyber attack that shut down its computer system and leaked some of its latest releases weeks early. brad pitt's second world war blockbuster "fury" is among the films released early. >> if you think it can't get worse, it can and it will. >> and it could cost sony millions in lost revenue. a hard knock life indeed. the musical "annie" has also been pirated by hackers.
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but sony hasn't confirmed the speculation that north korea could be behind it. >> we don't really have much of a clue, to be honest, as to what the sophistication of the malware texts coming out of north korea are, but that's the thing with the internet really. we're all on equal footing. there really aren't any superpowers anymore. if you've got computers and smart people, anyone can attack anyone. >> please remember kim jong un is a master manipulator. >> reporter: some argue the north korean leader needs little help parodying himself. and the country is no stranger to criticizing the west. whether pyongyang is behind the hacking or not, it's already given the film it dislikes more publicity than money could buy. alistair leithead, bbc news in hollywood. let's return to our top story. the kenyan president kenyatta has condemned the militant group al shabab. they have claimed sponl ee eed responsibility of killing 38
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workers. this is what he had to say. >> we will not flinch or relent in the war against terrorism in our country and our region. we shall continue to inflict painful casualties on these terrorists until we secure our country and region. our stability and prosperity depends on a secure neighborhood. and this is our commitment. we ask every kenyan to take a principal stand against the evil of terror and to support this war. we are in this together. >> uhura kenyatta saying there is a war against terrorists inside kenya and also outside of kenya, and saying the country will not flinch in that battle. the other breaking news we have from nairobi is that the interior minister and the police chief have also been removed from their posts. hours after we saw this attack in the northeast, kenyatta said in that televised address there that he has replaced the
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interior minister and accepted this request for resignation from the police chief. so plenty of developments in nairobi. we'll keep across those for you. that's it from "gmt" for today, though. what's coming up on "impact"? >> thanks, lucy. coming up on "impact," we'll be looking at the sudden surrender of the occupy central leader in hong kong, so do stay with us on "impact." because you work. now capella university offers a revolutionary new way to get your degree. it's called flexpath, and it's the most direct path, leveraging what you've learned on the job and focusing on what you need to know. so you can get a degree at your pace and graduate at the speed of you. flexpath from capella university. learn about all of our programs at
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