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this is bbc news — the headlines at 8pm: a major incident is declared after nhs services across england and scotland were hit by a large—scale cyber—attack. an investigation is under way as 36 nhs organisations, including hospitals and gp surgeries have been affected. theresa may says the nhs was not targeted. it's an international attack on number of countries and organisations have been affected. the national cyber security centre is working closely with nhs the bull digital to ensure they support the organisations concerned. in the next hour we'll be analysing labour's foreign policy, asjeremy corbyn says the war on terror has not worked. the labour leader says military intervention has become "almost routine" and fresh thinking is needed. the philosophy of bomb first, talk later approach to security has failed. to persist with it as the conservative government has made clear it's determined to do is a recipe for increasing not reducing threats and security. a coroner rules that 14—year—old
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nasar ahmed died as a result of an allergic reaction to his school lunch — his mother says he could have been saved. thousands ofjellyfish have washed up on beaches in wales in what conservationists have described as a "mega swarm". good evening and welcome to bbc news. our main story this evening — the nhs has been hit by a large scale cyber attack. similar ramsomware attacks have been reported at organisations across the world. security analysts believe the incidents are all linked. services across england have been severely disrupted by the attack. routine appointments have been cancelled and ambulances diverted to alternative accident and emergency departments. 33 organisations have been
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identified by the bbc as being affected. nhs digital says its services have been targeted by a ransomware attack, which means nhs data is, in effect, being held hostage by hackers demanding money. it is not thought that patient files have been affected. our health editor hugh pym has more. a major incident has been declared by nhs leaders in england, and hospitals like this one in colchester have been experiencing serious computer problems after a cyber attack. this is what some patients told us: the gentleman just inside the door said that all the computers have gone down, and they are not sure whether the doctors can see you for whatever reason. if it is x—rays, or breakages, or what have you, they will send you home. it has happened before — at this hospital trust covering north lincolnshire and goole, it systems were closed for three days as the result of a cyber attack last autumn.
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hundreds of operations and patient appointments were postponed, people were told to a&e only if it was really necessary, there were warnings that nhs it was vulnerable. and today staff logging in at other hospitals found this on their screens, with a message saying, your files are encrypted, if you want to recover them, you need to pay up. ransomware, a hidden programme used by criminal hackers, was being used. the nhs is vulnerable, because typically it has not invested enough in computer security, using old computers and systems and if they don't keep them properly patched they will keep getting hit by attacks like this. in a statement, nhs digital, responsible for it, has said: one doctor at this hospital in mansfield told us how it was
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affecting services today. i had a lady today, who had severe back pain, could potentially paralyse her down below her legs. and we had to divert her to another hospital, queens medical centre. it is getting a bit difficult for us. we have a lot of patients here. it takes an awful lot of time for us to process the information on a paper system. some hospitals warned local people they were experiencing significant it and telephone problems. some gp practices have also reported significant problems. speaking a little earlier, the prime minister said there's no evidence patient data has been compromised so far. we are that aware of nhs
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organisations have reported they have suffered well from a ransomware attack. this was not targeted at the nhs. it is an international attack on the number of countries and organisations have been affected. the national cyber security centre is working closely with nhs digital to ensure they support the organisations concerned and protect patient safety. we are not aware of any evidence that patient‘s data has been compromised. of course it is important that we have set up the national cyber security centre and they are able to work with the nhs organisations concerned to ensure that they are supported and that patient safety is protected. nhs england is urging patience to only go to hospital if they really have to do following the attack. a plea came from a doctor responsible for the london area. what we are saying
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is use the nhs as you normally would if you have an urgent need, so if you need to call an ambulance or attend any because you have an emergency order urgently you should go. urgent medical care is being provided as normal. what problems are we likely to see over the weekend? all trusts have business continuity plans and so far we can see they have been put in place. here in london for examples this hospital has been affected and that trust is coping well. you have mentioned the problems, the initial problems, are there likely to be any knock—on problems if this continues? that is something we do not know. but what we do know is that we are working very closely with nhs digital to insure patches are made available to trusts so they can protect themselves from future attacks. how is nhs111 coping? we are hearing about an overload in
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some areas. it will be augmented so there will be extra capacity put on. all of the regions that operate 111 have been asked to do that. the way it works is that they will pass capacity around the nhs if a particular area gets busy. andrew avanessian is vice president of the security software firm, avecto, and has advised the nhs on their cyber security in the past. thank you forjoining us. how likely do you think it is that the nhs was the real target here, rather than an unlucky bystander?” the real target here, rather than an unlucky bystander? i think this is more of an opportunity stick at it attack rather than an attack at the nhs, because other organisations have been affected. one of the things we looked at is that the
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actual piece of malware is one that has been a while for a while but has been reused in a different way... inaudible it is more likely to be an opportunistic attack. how easily could it have been prevented?m opportunistic attack. how easily could it have been prevented? it is definitely preventable in our view. the entry point has probably come from an e—mail. and if we look at the code that has been executed to breach these systems, the actual vulnerability they are using to attack the nhs and spread across the 33 organisations is a known vulnerability that was patched by microsoft back in march and was
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actually a vulnerability the nsa was using as an entry point in many of their activities. it is a preve nta ble their activities. it is a preventable breach. the entry point for this attack will not have been that complicated or sophisticated, probably an e—mail with a document attachment that someone has clicked on. inaudible we are starting to lose the sound, but we got the gist of what you said in your last answer. thank you for talking to us. and we'll find out how this story — and many others — are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10:40 this evening in the papers — our guestsjoining me tonight are stephen bush, special correspondent at the new statesman and iain martin, editor of the political news website, reaction. jeremy corbyn says the war on terror isn't working and britain needs a fresh approach. in a speech outlining his foreign policy, he said he wasn't a pacifist and could see circumstances
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in which he would involve britain in a war but he warned against what he called a "bomb first, talk later" approach. mr corbyn accused theresa may of pandering to donald trump, who he said was making the world a more dangerous place. here's our deputy political editorjohn pienaar. he's used to it now, all the attention, and not always friendly, though he still tries to be. don't push each other, ok? labour's campaign is so much aboutjeremy corbyn — his character, ideas he has held dearfor 30 years, though some in his party which he had not, like defence — and today the labour leader wish he had not, like defence — and today the labour leader was holding to his oldest and deepest convictions, writing of years of britain's way of war against international terror. the fact is that the war on terror which has driven these interventions has not succeeded. it has not increased our security at home — in fact many would say just the opposite. but this, britain's leader, on—site and alongside with on—side and alongside with
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donald trump, was not jeremy corbyn‘s answer — more talking, less fighting, yes, and a lot less cosiness with washington ifjeremy corbyn wins. we deserve better than simply outsourcing defence and prosperity to the whims of the trump white house, so no more handholding with donald trump. a labour government will conduct a robust and independent foreign policy. the message, when facing terrorism, time somehow to rely on peace and diplomacy. but what about britain's nuclear deterrent? and jeremy corbyn‘s lifelong opposition to nuclear defence? for a potential prime minister it has become a nagging question, a live election issue, and he knew it. i am often asked if as prime minister i would order the use of nuclear weapons — it is an extraordinary question when you think about it. would you order the indiscriminate killing of millions of people? would you risk such contamination of the planet that no life could exist across large parts of the world? if circumstances
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arose where there was a real option, it would represent a complete and cataclysmic failure, it would mean world leaders had already triggered a spiral of catastrophe. that sounded like a no, he wanted nuclear defence reconsidered as well. we cannot obviously decide what a review would decide otherwise we would not have a review. and what you say to supporters british military power, when it is not clear when you would sent forces into battle, in and out of nato, including strikes against islamic state ? i doubt many if any in this room would have questioned the legitimacy ultimately of the second world war because of the catastrophe that had approached by the rise of the nazis. but controversy today is about recent conflict. british air strikes on the so—called islamic state in iraq and syria, whichjeremy corbyn opposed. he is proud now that hejoined the marches against the iraq invasion in 2003, a war which drove down support for labour
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in government. today he wanted british raids against is reviewed. examine what they are doing straightaway, examine what their presenceis straightaway, but above all that examine what their presence is straightaway, but above all that fits into the whole point i am saying — that i would do everything i possibly could in order to reignite the peace process. some, not all labour supporters, agree — others, very far from it. a labour party led by jeremy corbyn that would simply chuck away our ability to defend ourselves — i think that is crazy and not the way i want to go. you see defence policy sucking in billions of pounds on trident, at a time when a conventional defence force has seen cut after cut after cut. approval for the leader's line here, today, but labour needs converts, lots of them. well theresa may was campaigning in the north—east today, in an attempt to win over labour voters. she accused jeremy corbyn of deserting what she called ‘proud
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and patriotic‘ working class people. and, as mr corbyn was outlining labour's foreign policy plans, mrs may didn't rule out a future parliamentary vote on joining american military strikes against syria. here's our political editor laura kuenssberg. what the tories might expect, a raw reception in much of the northeast of england. the tories will ruin our environment. can the conservatives win around here, no! definitely not! no chance! a very small selection of people canvassing for the tories, we have a huge following for the labour. but, inside, theresa may believes she can swell these polite ranks of her supporters, trying to stir up national pride with talk of security, and defence, while slamming her labour opponents, who have been in charge round here for a long time. proud and patriotic working class people, in towns and cities across britain, have not deserted the labour party.
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we respect the parents and grandparents taught their children and grandchildren that labour was a party that share their values and stood up for their community. but across the country today, traditional labour supporters are increasingly looking at whatjeremy corbyn believes in, and are appalled. but, beyond the attack lines, on safety and security, what might she do if she stays in charge? you have thought a lot about patriotism today — would you think it patriotic to join the united states in more strikes against syria, or will you rule out having a parliamentary vote on that? we are, as you know, the united kingdom is part of the coalition that is operating in syria and iraq, with the united states, but with other countries as well. when i look at the decisions we will be taking in terms of defence and foreign policy, there is one thing that
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will drive the decisions, that those decisions will be taken in the british national interest. not quite a no. but can she really take the tories beyond small pockets of the north—east? just look at the side of the bus to see how they hope how. her name in giant letters, you almost need a magnifying glass for the party. we will deliver for britain. she may be well ahead in the polls, but the tory manifesto is not even published yet — how far can she really reach? i was labour a few years ago, when i first started voting, but my views are changing, just through working life and what is happening in this world, in this country, my views are changing. have you voted tory before? no, i haven't. so you will be voting conservative the first time? yes. and what is it that's changed your mind? strong opinions on brexit — that is where i want to see the country go, stand—alone, move forward that way. getting on the road
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in the north—east is part of a deliberate strategy, notjust in trying to win, but to pump up the majority. i've used virtually every form of transport you can think of in this election campaign, except horses. but however she travels and whatever the polls say today, shifting huge numbers of votes in labour territory is a hard sell. theresa may has already been to more than 20 labour seats, including some here in the north—east that should traditionally be safe as houses. the tories say that she is selling a positive message, but every day they are trying to display contrast between her and jeremy corbyn, brutally trying to strip away the labour vote. you don't get anyone more important than the prime minister, do you? convention suggest whole chunks of the north of england, scotland and wales just are not safe for the conservatives, but theresa may wants to persuade you that the country's future is only safe with her. the liberal democrats have confirmed
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they would legalise the sale of cannabis if they're elected. the party would allow licensed shops to sell the drug to people over the age of 18. people would also be able to grow cannabis at home and smoke at small social clubs. the headlines on bbc news: a major incident is declared after nhs services across england and scotland were hit by a large—scale cyber—attack. an investigation is under way as patients at dozens of hospitals trusts, gp surgeries and dental practices have been affected. theresa may says the nhs was not the target. the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, has outlined his defence policy — insisting that he isn't a pacifist and would order the use of military action as a last resort. sport now. a full round—up from the
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bbc sports centre. good evening. let's start at the hawthorns because chelsea could wrap up the premier league title tonight with a win they need. only one more victory from the last three games to secure their second title in three seasons that they would certainly psyched to see a little night. they have been pressing early against west brom but no real chances to speak of. just one sailing over the bar. they have had 19 minutes and it is still no nel. that's one of two games in the premier league. watford are not safe yet. everton can only finish seventh. that is also so far goalless. they have had nearly 111 minutes there. a win for scottish champions celtic tonight and they will bring up some 100 points for the season. they are playing aberdeen at tawdry. celtic are
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aiming foran unbeaten aberdeen at tawdry. celtic are aiming for an unbeaten season. it was 2— 04 celtic. a rag looks to be on the cards when the dons allowed someone on the cards when the dons allowed someone in this time. then it was 3-0. someone in this time. then it was 3—0. with someone in this time. then it was 3-0. with 12 someone in this time. then it was 3—0. with12 minutes on the clock and completely against the run of play aberdeen pulled one back. mercedes have dominated the opening practice sessions ahead of the spanish grand prix in barcelona. lewis hamilton finished clear of his team—mate is quickest in both the first and this afternoon session. it wasn't such a good day for fernando alonso won his home circuit. the spaniard missed the first sentient with an oil linkers mclaren and went to play tennis instead. in the afternoon he clocked the slowest
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time of the field, more than three seconds behind hamilton. ahead of clu b seconds behind hamilton. ahead of club rugby union's main european showpiece tomorrow there is more silverware at states like the challenge cup final, the second—tier european opposition. like tomorrow's match the fine is being played at murrayfield tonight. very shipside gloucester are aiming to win this trophy for a third time. these are the last few moments of murray ‘s field. there are three times in the sixth round of rugby league's challenge cups night. five of the six teams playing from the super league. they all kicked off at 8pm. there was a dramatic finish to the day's racing at the giro d'italia. a three—way sprint for the finish
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line unfolded after five and half hours along the southern italian coastline. australian sprinter caleb ewan just claiming a first ever stage victory in this race... and just his second in a grand tour... in alberobello. .. finishing just clear of fernando gaviria and the irish rider sam bennett. britons geraint thomas and adam yates both lost no time on the overall leader — they remain second and third in the tour standings. barcelona defender gerard pique's plans for a new world cup of tennis event have been backed by leading players including andy murray, novak djokovic and rafael nadal. such a tournament would rival the davis cup... which great britain won in 2015... and currently has three—day matches spread over february, april, september and november. pique's plan would see a single tournament take place in one location... over a maximum of ten days. both those premier league matches are still goalless. we will bring
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you well up—to—date in the next hour or so but that is all the sport for now. more now on the large—scale cyber attack that has targeted more than 30 organisations. our reporterjoins us 30 organisations. our reporterjoins us from southampton. dozens of organisations within the health service have been affected. there are reports that up to 40 could now be affected as well as organisations around the world. we are seeing lots particularly in spain and russia, possibly 74 other countries. this is enormous and happening worldwide. what is the nhs trying to do to lessen the impact? it has basically shut down everything. that is a really good thing to do if you are hit with a cyber attack, you need to disconnect everything from the internet. unfortunately it is also catastrophic if you are the nhs because suddenly you have no access to any information, all the patient data that is stored is no longer
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accessible by doctors and nurses on the front line. and of course patients are inevitably affected although they try to mimic buys it. we are hearing reports of lots of planned surgery is being cancelled. people are being told to stay away from any except in emergencies, ambulances are being re—routed. it has had an enormous effect across the whole of the nhs and lots of people will be feeling the backlog for ages because now everything has to be rescheduled, which will put them even further behind. what will they have to do then to try to patch up they have to do then to try to patch up the system and ensure it does not happen again? this is a really difficult thing to talk about in a way because although everybody says if you are hit with ransomware it is a particularly nasty fall of of malware where the virus locks down your computer and demands money to release your files and get your computer back to you. everybody says do not pay if you are blackmailed, but there isn't really another way
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around it. if you haven't backed up your data that you are stuck and it depends on how much time you have and how reliable your back—up is. what the nhs will have to do very quickly, i'm sure it is already, is work out exactly where its data is sitting and what it can do to retrieve it and whether it can afford to lose these infected computers. it is also worth saying that this virus has been around since about february this year and it exploits a microsoft windows vulnerability that had been patched in march. so if these computers have been kept up—to—date they would have been kept up—to—date they would have been protected from this. thank you very much. you are watching bbc news. it is 25 minutes past 8pm. a coroner has concluded that a teenager, who died from an allergic reaction to his school lunch, could possibly have been saved, if staff had given him the adrenalin injection he needed. fourteen—year—old nasar ahmed, who had severe asthma and a wide range of food allergies, collapsed at a school in east london last november. our correspondent sarah campbell has been at the inquest today.
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nasar ahmed loved maths and science and wanted to be a politician. he also suffered from severe asthma and food allergies. his family have heard in detail how he came to die after having an extreme allergic reaction to an ingredient in a curry he had for lunch while at school. a couple of hours after nasar had eaten, he told staff here that he couldn't breathe. there was confusion as to what might be wrong, and his personal medical box was found. it contained an adrenaline injector pen, or epipen, but there were no instructions as to how or when to use it. so nobody did. the coroner concluded that if the epipen had been used promptly and nasar had been administered adrenaline, there was a possibility but not a probability that this would have changed the outcome. nasar died four days later in hospital. his family said the school let them and their son down. they failed in their care of duty for my son, they failed to
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give the right injection. if they gave the epipen injection at that time, five minutes before the ambulance came, it would have saved his life. the school issued a statement today saying, "following nasar‘s death, we have reviewed safety procedures and are providing more training for staff across the board." the coroner will be writing several reports including to nasar‘s school in an effort to prevent future deaths. she will also suggest to the chief medical officer that if more epipens were available and more widely understood, lives could be saved. sarah campbell, bbc news, east london. it was warm in the highlands.
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elsewhere there was some rain but also some sunshine. this band of rain and scattered showers, a little bit of sunshine developed through the evening, that rain wakes its weight to northern ireland, south wales, the showers tending to fade away as they drift north. a little rain in the scotland and grey conditions in the north—east corner. pretty extensive low cloud. a few showers along the south coast by the end of the night. not a cold night. as we look towards the morning, it looks pretty good across much of the south of the uk. it is a little breezy, some cloud, but breaks in that, some sunshine, most places will be dry but there is the chance ofa will be dry but there is the chance of a few showers. highest chance of rain in north wales and the north—west of england. wetter weather in northern ireland,
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southern and eastern scotland will see some outbreaks and there is still low cloud. and there will be some showers for the western and northern ireland. it will be windiest awards the west. in the south east the winds are lighter and the showers fewer and further between. it will also see the highest of the temperatures. further north and west, 14 to 16. some premier league football taking place, they might see some rain in manchester but not so much in bournemouth or stoke. through the evening and into sunday morning we will see the rain crossing all parts of the uk. it does not last too long a nyway of the uk. it does not last too long anyway and most of it is out to the north sea by sunday. it might linger for a time north sea by sunday. it might linger fora time in north sea by sunday. it might linger for a time in the north—east of scotla nd for a time in the north—east of scotland but that will get out of the way and then it is a bright and breezy day with this scattering of showers. early next week in the
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north—west it will be cloudy and breezy with some rain, glasgow will see temperatures are 15 or 16. in the south—east corner it will be sunny and warm, up to 25 degrees. this is bbc news. our headlines at half eight. the security services are investigating a major cyber attack against hospitals and gp practices across england and parts of scotland, forcing some to turn off computer systems and overt emergency cases to alternative a&e departments. more than 30 nhs organisations, including hospitals and gp surgeries, have been effected. treason makes a the nhs was not specifically targeted. effected. treason makes a the nhs was not specifically targetedm effected. treason makes a the nhs was not specifically targeted. it is an international attack. the national cyber security centre is working closely with nhs digital to
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ensure they support the organisations concerned. the labour leader has outlined his defence policy, insisting he is not a pacifist and would order the use of military action, but only as a last resort. the philosophy of akpom first talk later approach to security has field. to persist with it as the conservatives are determined to do is a recipe for increasing, not reducing, threats to security. a coroner has called for changes in the way schools care for pupils with apologies after concluding an adrenaline injection might have saved the life of a 14—year—old who collapsed after eating a school lunch. thousands of jellyfish of washed up on beaches in wales in what conservationists have described as the mega swarm. let's go back to our main story, a major incident has been declared after nhs services across england and scotland were hit by a large—scale cyber—attack.
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our correspondent, abijaiyeola, who's in york. your teaching hospital's trust said they have been significantly affected by this cyber attack but they have taken steps to keep clinical services running. we have spoken to some patients who have been affected. there have been problems with discharge notes. we have heard from a man who had an mri scan cancelled. a lady he was due to have an x—ray has said that has been postponed until tuesday. the hospitals here have cancelled some breast screening clinics which were planned for this weekend across north yorkshire. other patients have come out of the hospital saying they have been treated and things have been fine, doctors are doing things the old—fashioned been fine, doctors are doing things the old —fashioned way, been fine, doctors are doing things the old—fashioned way, making notes with pen and paper. they have praised the hospital for how they are coping. a hospital source has
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said the attack has affected their ability to sterilise equipment and that has affected some operations but that has not been confirmed by the trust. they are taking steps to keep things running here in europe. kavita oberoi runs an nhs it consultancy in derby. she was in a gp surgery this afternoon that had been affected by the cyber—attack. they had resorted to using pen and paper to book in patient appointments. iam i am really surprised at what has happened today with the nhs cyber attack. the nhs is run on a very secure system on a private broadband network, which was set up in 2004 and is quite difficult to infiltrate the system for the average layman. the private network has to be accessed by nhs employees. it connects over 1 accessed by nhs employees. it connects over1 million staff to patient records, so if a patient
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records have been scrambled by this ransom ware, you would need to have knowledge into how you infiltrate and access that network, which is quite difficult to access. explain what that network is. the network is a private, it is a private, secure, very a private, it is a private, secure, very secure, a private, it is a private, secure, very secure, almost like a broadband system which enables the transfer of clinical records between primary and secondary care, doctors, hospitals and all of that is enabled via this network which was set up originally in the 2004. there is a lot of compliance and governance when you are working with the nhs, as i well know, because we work as a company with the nhs. we do not have to access the network, but there is a lot of regulation and compliance
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that goes with working with the nhs. the network is set up to be that secure, private network and that enables secure sharing of patient records, patient data, but it is not an easy thing to access. even if suppliers who are non—nhs have to use the network, they have to go through several layers of compliance and it can take a number of years before you get certified to have a connection. i think with what is happening around the world these days with so many different attacks, not just cyber attacks, days with so many different attacks, notjust cyber attacks, it is quite difficult to keep up with the intelligence and also the movement that has happened in terms of what people are able to do. so, it has been a real shock that the nhs has been a real shock that the nhs has been hacked, however, we did see the
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yea rs been hacked, however, we did see the years ago big organisations, breaches happen and we are going to have to spend more and more money to get data and systems secure because the hackers are moving at a faster speed than anybody else. what can you do to stay ahead? to stay ahead it isa you do to stay ahead? to stay ahead it is a matter of looking at the infrastructure and putting into place even more stringent policies and systems, which will all take resource investment and research and investment is a thing that we are struggling with an anyway, even to treat patients. we apologise for the lack of sound on the questions there. emma isa emma is a gp in dundee and has been telling us what it is like after surgery. we are still all here at the surgery. we have tried to disseminate the information locally but we are having significant issues
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with our it systems. we cannot access patient records, results, prescription results. we are not able to deal with them at the moment. we are here, the surgery is open, but we have limited services which we can provide for people. some people are coming into the desk, people are still following the surgery and we are advising them as best we can. if people have emergency issues than luckily that has not been the case this afternoon, but we will deal with them. absolutely everything else is com pletely them. absolutely everything else is completely blocked. we cannot access and nothing. we have, for a long time in primary care, been a pa perless time in primary care, been a paperless system. all of the patient records are held on the computer and anything paper is historical. it is old records. all of the up—to—date information is held on the computers. we can print out that
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information if we need to but we cannot access the system to do that. we do have the advantage in primary ca re we do have the advantage in primary care that we know the vast majority of our patients pretty well. so, for example, i saw a lady today and i know very well. she was expecting to see one of my colleagues, but because i know her well, i was able to deal with a problem because i know her medical history. i think we have that advantage in primary care for most of our patients. we have been able to deal with most things which have cropped up. we can prescribe things for people, we can the handwritten prescriptions for people, but lots of our patients are on complex combinations of drugs and it is not possible to remember all of those and patients do not necessarily remember those things. we have contingencies in place for monday morning so that if the system is not working, we will be able to inform people when they are falling
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to make appointments. we will offer that they can come and sit in the surgery and it will be first—come, first—served. we willjust hope we can deal with most problems. the it service locally is very much aware of the issue and they are going to send people out over the weekend to try to get our system up and running. what we do not know is how many other practices might become involved. we know there are at least three others in dundee and another in paris. if there are more now, we do not know. we do not know what will happen with the out of hours service either. now, more than 80 years may separate two derbyshire women but both agree this is an incredibly important general election. wyn edwards is 101 years old and remembers when churchill was prime minister. and as part of a bbc east midlands today special report she's been talking to 18—year—old alicia clarke who of course is voting in her first general election next month. navtej johal reports. when wayne edwards was born, women
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we re when wayne edwards was born, women were not allowed to vote in the uk. you must be this year. today, we arranged for a 101 euros to meet a first footer, this year clark, from queen elizabeth grammar school in ashbourne. but first,. do you put your mobile phones on one side and really talk? yes. with the pleasantries over, really talk? yes. with the pleasa ntries over, it really talk? yes. with the pleasantries over, it was onto their priorities. if you want to save the nhs, we have to pay for it. how much ca re nhs, we have to pay for it. how much care the party takes for the environment, because it is the largest issue. next, brexit. i have just experienced team the eu and
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when i was younger i didn't see any problems, ijust when i was younger i didn't see any problems, i just thought when i was younger i didn't see any problems, ijust thought it was better to be more unified.|j problems, ijust thought it was better to be more unified. i hope words of wisdom will be put in the mouth of theresa may when she starts these discussions. she is going to need them. one topic of disagreement, lowering the voting age to 16. they would rather dance at16, age to 16. they would rather dance at 16, surely. i think i was responsible and that have political opinions. i would responsible and that have political opinions. iwould have responsible and that have political opinions. i would have liked the opportunity to vote on what happen in the country, because it is as that will have to live with that in the future. despite alysia favouring the future. despite alysia favouring the green party the two ended the day of discussion as friends.” think we agree wholeheartedly. the value of finance deals used to buy new cars has
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soared to a record level, alarming those who have warned the growing trend could spell trouble. in march, it was up 13 percent hitting three and a half billion pounds. but the financial watchdog, the fca, said it's going to investigate whether some lending is irresponsible, as our personal finance correspondent, simon gompertz, reports. picking up the dream vehicle, and in eight out of ten cases it's on credit, dealers and lenders have made it easy for people who used to drive an old banger to get new car after new car. it's a fantastic deal, isn't it? what's to lose? sometimes the finance can help you and it's really good deal. this is how it works. you pay a deposit of thousands of pounds then a monthly payment, typically between 100 and 200, covering interest and the amount the car is dropping in value. after three years you give back the keys and sign up for another if you want. many don't realise they never actually own the car but the financial watchdog, the fca, said last month. we are concerned there may be a lack of transparency,
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potential conflicts of interest and irresponsible lending. and it would investigate. there are two worries about this, one is that people are signing up for deals which they can't afford, the other is that the finance companies are stoking up a debt bubble which will burst if they can't get rid of the cars at a decent price in the secondhand market when people hand them back. we do not share those concerns. at the end of the day, lenders only have a sustainable business model if they can confidently expect to get the money they lend back. that means lending is responsible. but no one's putting the brakes on car credit at the moment. the concern will grow if records keep being overtaken. with me is the motor industry correspondent for the financial times. peter campbell, thank you for coming in. people clearly have an appetite
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for new cars, is that driving these high numbers? it is. car loans are linked to car sales and they rose in the first quarter. much was the best month for car sales since records began. that is partly because there was a tax change which came in in april which meant people pod cars earlier than they otherwise have done. why is this potentially a problem? historically people would ta ke problem? historically people would take a problem? historically people would takea bank loan problem? historically people would take a bank loan out and then recover the cost of the car. these dealers are popular because they only have to cover the cost of part of the car. the problem is people are locked into the system. we have are locked into the system. we have a choice to give the car back pay off the rest of the value of the car we re off the rest of the value of the car were rolled over to a new deal and almost everyone grows over. there is almost everyone grows over. there is a worried that when people get into these contracts they wrote them over again and again and don't get out of the system. a car salesman asking why i would want to own a car? i saidi why i would want to own a car? i said i would like to pay the money
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and have the car. why do people not do that? a lot of people don't realise they are not running the car. we have a system where you don't mind losing things, you pay monthly for your phone. a lot of people do that with their cars and are happy to pay 200, £250 a month in order to have a car even though they never fully owned it. it is popular because every few years the consumer gets a brand—new car and they never have to drive an old banger like he would have done in the old days. how did you spot whether a lender is behaving responsibly in the deal you are signing? this is one of the things the financial conduct authority will look into. previously, when he got a bank loan to cover your car, it was a different armed giving you the money as was selling kitty cat. right now it is the car dealer's finance company, it is the same place giving the bad deal. a lot of
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people think the problem might be that they are encouraging you to overstretch yourself in order to buy that car. that is what the fca will look at, whether there is a conflict of interest with the same finance company and the car dealer both selling you the product. how easy is it to get out of the deal if you have overstretched yourself? you have overstretched yourself? you have to pay off the rest of what you would've had to pay off. it is difficult to get off partway through. at the end you can get out of it and give the car back, but then you do not have a car. or you could buy off the rest of the car and most people don't want to do that because they don't have the money. it is difficult to get out of one of these halfway through. you have to pay the remainder and people don't have the money. you can understand why the car manufacturers might like this. but environmentally, is that the best way to do it? there are more new ca rs way to do it? there are more new cars on the road. there are. they
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cars on the road. there are. they car companies do like it because people buy much nicer cars. one of the effects of this is that people not only by a nicer car, the spec are more highly because if you're only going to pay an extra five or £10 a month, you might get leather seats or alloy wheels or a powerful hi-fi seats or alloy wheels or a powerful hi—fi system, which you would otherwise never pay for upfront. thank you very much. just after a quarter to nine. the headlines, a major incident is declared after nhs services across england and scotland are hit by a large—scale cyber attack. an investigation is underway as more than 30 nhs organisations, including hospitals and gp surgeries, have been affected. trees and he says the nhs was not the target. the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, has outlined his defence policy, insisting he is not a pacifist and with the use of military action as a last resort. the highest court in italy has
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upheld the 16 yearjail sentence given to the captain of the costa concordia which capsized in 2012, killing 32 people. the decision put him behind bars more than five years after he steered the costa concordia onto rocks of the italian coast. he was nicknamed captain covered by the media after the coast guard released recordings of him in a lifeboat resisting orders to return to the stricken vessel. police have voiced concern about the number of weapons being seized in schools in england and wales. kitchen knives, air rifles and an imitation firearm were among some of the two and a half thousand items confiscated in the last two years. cases involved children as young as 5. our education correspondent gillian hargreaves reports. some schools have taken to using metal arches to make sure no weapons are brought on to the premises. but figures obtained by the press association show the number of seizures over a two—year period from 2015 had risen by 20%. 2,579 weapons were seized — among them were samurai
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swords, axes and airguns. 47 children found with weapons were below the age of ten, and one five—year—old was caught with a knife. sometimes the younger children are used to carry for older children, so they are learning from their siblings, they are learning from their peer groups. so these cases are very worrying, because if you don't catch those young children now, they will go on to continue to be more serious offenders. barry mizen lost his son jimmy eight years ago. he was 16 when he was stabbed to death. his father now visits schools, warning children about the consequences of carrying weapons. we are not there to lecture young people, we are there to say this is what happened to us and this was the unintended consequence of someone's actions. and hopefully, that will have an impact on some people. we get listened to so well, the young people are so empathetic towards us.
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young people are scared when they go out of their front door. not all, but there are some. although the statistics reveal around 500 knives were seized by teachers, violent crime in schools is very rare. i know that as a headteacher for 15 years, we would, if we had a tip—off about a child bringing something inappropriate in, which might be a pair of scissors, frankly, that they were going to use with the wrong reason, then we would follow it up. if necessary, we would exclude that child, involve the parents. i think there is greater awareness, and i think today's report adds to that sense of awareness. the department for education said teachers' powers had been increased, so they can take action if they suspect a pupil has brought a prohibited item into school. gillian hargreaves, bbc news. thousands of giantjellyfish have washed up on welsh beaches in the past few days. the barreljellyfish have been spotted in pembrokeshire, ceredigion and on anglesey. new quay has been a hot spot, with over three hundred seen in what's been called a "mega swarm"
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here's matt murray. they are known as barral or a dustbin lid jellyfish because of their size. they have been washing up their size. they have been washing up on the beaches of wheels recently in their thousands science officers have counted over 300 on the beaches of uk alone. while this happens annually, they say this number is rare. they have described it as a mega swarm. we don't usually get as many as we are seeing now. that is unusual. last year was an unusual yearin unusual. last year was an unusual year in it that we did not see them until late in the season. this year we have seen them in april and may in massive numbers. they seem to be a lot bigger than we usually see. i don't think i have seen them as big as they are at this year. numbers have grown in recent years because of mild winters and warm water
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zelalem plankton, their food of mild winters and warm water zelalem plankton, theirfood source, to thrive. the fine weather has sparked this recent boom in jellyfish which can grow up to three feetin jellyfish which can grow up to three feet in diameter. these barrel jellyfish and upon the beach because they had inshore for the warmer water but have a limited ability to swim against sea currents. sodhi and appear, washed up on the in huge numbers. we have been coming here for 40 yea rs numbers. we have been coming here for 40 years and i have never seen anything like this in terms of the numbers and the size of them. the la st numbers and the size of them. the last time we had seen so many hundreds washed up like this was when we had the hot summer in 1976. it is advised not to touch or move the jellyfish because they give a mild sting and conservationists hope this will attract the sea creatures's main predator, the large leatherback turtle. this ancient sea creature could attract another to our beaches. listen to this announcement made to
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a group of bottled waters off the coast of california. attention in the water. be advised, state parks is asking us to let you know you are paddle boarding next to approximately 15 great white sharks. they are advising you exit the water ina calm they are advising you exit the water in a calm manner. that is the orange cou nty in a calm manner. that is the orange county sheriff department asking eve ryo ne county sheriff department asking everyone to stay calm, as if you would. 15 great white sharks close by. a police helicopter had spotted the sharks about an hour away from los angeles. a woman had been bitten in that part of the sea at the end of april. a man who discovered a collection of viking artefacts is to receive a reward of almost £2 million. derek mcclennan uncovered the tenth century award which includes silver bracelets and bridges in a field in dumfries and
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galloway. the national museums of scotla nd galloway. the national museums of scotland will provide a permanent home for the collection. let's take a look at the weather forecast. we have seen a bit of cloud and rain across some parts of the uk today but not for all. scotland was the place to be for sunshine and warmth in the low 20s. for many, the you look like this at some stage during the day. here is the satellite and radar sequence showing an area of raina swirling around. some showers as well. also spells of sunshine. but rain is moving across northern ireland at the moment. the south of wales will be quite wet for a while and there will be some rain in central scotland. eastern scotland and the north east of england will be grey and cloudy. mist and fog. some showers on the south coast, but not a cold night. into the morning. southern counties doing quite well through the day. we will see one or
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two early showers but i suspect they will be few and far between. most places starting on a drying out. there will be some holes in the cloud. they will thicken up into the north of england and wales. there will be some rain but not too much. quite cloudy in the morning in northern ireland with some rain never too far away. outbreaks of renfrew southern and eastern scotland. if you showers for the northern and western highlands. through the day, it will be the north and west seeing the biggest crowd, the wettest weather and the strongest wind. the legislator and the showers are few and far between toward the south—east. it will be pleasa ntly warm toward the south—east. it will be pleasantly warm in the sunshine. 19 or 20 degrees. closer to 15 toward the north west. through the evening, some rain coming in to the south—west. premier league action, no problems with the weather. there is the rain coming in to the west through the evening. some gusty wind
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associated with that but it is overnight rain. it doesn't linger too long and most should be gone by don on sunday. it could linger for a time in the north—east of scotland that will clear away and it is a bright and breezy day with sunshine. into the afternoon we will see a scattering of showers. top temperatures around 19 or 20 degrees but feeling fresher. sunday night into monday, things go downhill. there will be welcome rain and there will be quite a bit of it into monday. they wet and windy start to the new week. and in an and world news today. here are the
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top stories. cyber attacks have been reported in organisations around the world including the nhs. donald trump tweets a warning to the sacked boss of the fbi not to leak their conversations. his spokesman will not say any more. i don't think that's a threat. he is simply stating a fact that he is moving on. supreme courtjudges stating a fact that he is moving on. supreme court judges in stating a fact that he is moving on. supreme courtjudges in italy have upheld a 16 yearjail sentence on a shipwrecked captain. and chelsea could be minutes away from winning the english premier league title.
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