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this is bbc news. the headlines at 2pm. labour leaderjeremy corbyn criticises the government over police cuts and says there has been a link between foreign policy and terrorism. we must be brave enough to admit the war on terror is not working. we need a smarter way to reduce the threat from countries that nurture terrorists and generate terrorism. neither of the two main parties are presenting voters with an honest set of choices on taxation and spending, the institute for fiscal studies warns. i'm jane hill live in manchester. the latest developments here today. police investigating the terror attack in manchester say a further arrest today brings to eight the total number of people currently in custody. the 22nd victim of the attack has been named as 15—year—old megan hurley from halewood in merseyside. i'll be bringing you the latest
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news form manchester throughout the afternoon. in st ann's square, people continue to come to pay tribute to the people who have died. the other stories this hour. at the g7 summit in sicily, theresa may urges world leaders to discuss fighting online extremism. ben ainslie‘s bid for sailing history gets under way tomorrow, after a delay caused by high winds. the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, has given a speech this morning, linking british military action abroad to terrorist attacks here at home. mr corbyn said the "war on terror" is not working and that
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a different approach is needed. he was speaking as election campaigning resumed after monday's attack in manchester. the conservatives have condemned his remarks as crass and "appallingly timed." our political correspondent iain watson reports. the political truce after manchester, ended this morning. but, first, there was a further moment of remembrance. can i ask that we all stand for a moment's silence. and thenjeremy corbyn re—drew the political dividing lines. austerity has to stop at the aide wards and at the police station door. we cannot be protected and cared for on the cheap. in an attempt to nuetralise the attacks, the labour leader insisted he was patriotic and with manchester. then he made a link between uk terror at home and foreign wars. we must be brave enough
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to admit that the war on terror is not working. we need a smarter way to reduce the threat from countries that nurture terrorists and generate terrorism. and this message was for the british soldiers. i want to assure you under my leadership, you will be deployed abroad when there is a clear need and only with a plan that you have the resources to do yourjob and secure an outcome that delivers lasting peace. tackling terrorism requires a complex response. jeremy corbyn‘s determined not to steer clear of controversial issues and i'm told he wanted to avoid platitudes in the wake of the manchester attack and promote an honest debate. he has done that. although the speech went down well with the supporters, the opponents are attacking notjust the message but the timing. this is a very badly timed speech, showing muddled
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and dangerous thinking. he seems to imply that a terrorist attack in manchester is somehow ourfault. it is somehow britain's fault. jeremy corbyn is far too ready to find excuses. a few days ago a young man prepared a bomb, went to a pop concert and slaughtered 22 people. it seems to me that to choose to make a political point on the back of that is wrong. i disagree with jeremy corbyn's point but i disagree more strongly with his timing. the politicians always call for a united response against terrorism. but it's proving much more difficult to get agreement and possible solutions. our assistant political editor norman smith is in westminster. jeremy corbyn sketching out a very
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different approach to countering terrorism and military intervention abroad suggesting britain would only become involved in very, very limited circumstances. it is a speech which has perhaps predictably provoked a huge backlash from mr corbyn's opponents who have accused him of seeking to justify terrorism. i'm joined by the shadow attorney general. we will come to his arguments in a moment but let's look at the timing. do you think it was appropriate for mr corbyn to make this sort of speech now so soon after manchester? i think we need to be clear that this was a terrible human rights atrocity on our young people, and young women in particular seem to have been targeted but it was also an attack on our targeted but it was also an attack on oui’ democracy, no targeted but it was also an attack on our democracy, no doubt deliberately timed to time to the general election. it is right that theresa may and jeremy corbyn pours the general election campaign. given today that democracy had to begin
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again, ifjeremy corbyn had not addressed directly people'sfears and concerns this week, people would have accused him of not living in the real world. he have accused him of not living in the realworld. he suggested have accused him of not living in the real world. he suggested the labour government would only intervene in limited circumstances. let me put it to you that is giving a free pass to our enemies, in effect saying it doesn't matter what you do we won't come after you. jeremy corbyn's words today, and he addressed them directly to the military, to the brave young men and women who put themselves in harms way on our behalf, his message was you will only be deployed abroad in foreign conflicts if there is clear need and when there is a plan. and those two principles seem to be wholly right. i think they will be well received by many, many in the military and by people in the country. only when there is a clear need and only with a plan. isn't it
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the reality that war is messy, unpredictable to rule out taking military action in all but limited circumstances is frankly to tie his hands, were he to become prime ministers. the words are clear need. so, not ill thought out adventures but when there is a clear and demonstrable need and when we will make things better and not worse, hence having a plan. i think those are sensible principles people would agree with. and they clear consequences from not taking military in action? looking at syria, we have millions of refugees, hundreds of thousands dead, and somewhat argued that is because the west stood by. we can debate what clear need means in a number of circumstances but the other thing jeremy corbyn said today in the context of foreign policy is that, in the end, foreign conflicts require political solutions. that
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means you don't not enter them. despite the character assassination, he isn't a pacifist. and he would intervene when there is a clear need but only to make things better, not worse. he said most conflict that ended by dialogue, to follow through his logic we should be talking to islamic state. he's been clear we can't talk to is. what does he mean gun? how do we ended if he believes negotiation is the way to do it? gun? how do we ended if he believes negotiation is the way to do me have no interest in negotiation, you can't have a one—sided conversation, you can't have a conversation with a suicide bomber but there are other conflicts that are feeding in to power vacuums and into the fermenting of terrorism. there are other conflicts that feed into is. what is labour's strategy for tackling is if you're not going to negotiate or militarily intervene against them? we haven't said we
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went militarily intervene against is. we said we would intervene where there is a pan and a clear need so we will be very cautious about entry into a conflict where we don't have a road map, where we were putting people in harm's why, where we will be accused of making things worse not better. i think what he said today was sensible. the heart of the speech was about uniting in this horrible moment and returning to our democracy. there was no attack politics, no personal attacks on any other politician or party. he said, it is myjob to set up labour's stall. more importantly, we will return to our democracy, our general election in defiance of this atrocity this week. 0k, election in defiance of this atrocity this week. ok, thanks very much for your time and i think we can sensejeremy corbyn knew he would face a backlash over this because heap peppered his speech
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about saying don't doubt my determination, he knew this was going to be a controversial speech. 0k, going to be a controversial speech. ok, norman, thanks very much. neither the conservatives nor labour are presenting an "honest set of choices" to the public over their tax and spending plans, that's according to an influential think tank. the institute for fiscal studies has criticised both parties‘ election manifestos, saying they fail to address the country's long term challenges. here's our economics correspondent andy verity. in a way, both parties are being honest. labour say that they want to raise taxes to pay for better public services, the conservatives wish to continue with existing plans but the institute for fiscal studies says that neither party is being honest about how those plans will play out. so, take labour. they plan to raise £49 billion through tax measures but the institute for fiscal studies says that they reckon it will be a lot less, more like £40 billion.
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but what about the conservatives? they plan to continue with austerity. the institute for fiscal studies says there is a risk if they implement cuts there could be serious damage to the public services. labour will bring in more money but the risk is they will not bring in the revenue. under the conservatives, the risk is that the squeeze to public services will not prove deliverable. the parties say that they wish to be fairer but the institute for fiscal studies are saying that they are not honest about that. conservatives wish to means test winter fuel payments or tackling the tripping lock. but the measures will not raise much money. £1 billion. nothing from that in the next five years. what about the labour's plans? they are saying that they are for the many as they are scrapping tuition fees but the institute for fiscal studies says it is the wealthier segment of the population that goes to university and they are going
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ahead with cuts for some of the poorest families out there. and there are questions that neither party is answering, in labour's case, the tax burden is going to be at its highest level since the 1940s, as a share of the economy it brings it up to the average internationally, for all countries but it is the highest tax burden for the uk since the 40s. what about the conservatives? their immigration plans, according to the ifs are likely to damage the economy and create a £6 billion hole in the public finances. so £6 billion less coming in tax. all of those are the views of the institute for fiscal studies. so, let's get the latest on the investigation into the terror attack in manchester in which 22 people were killed. police have made another arrest in the moss side area of manchester as they continue their investigation into monday's terror attack, which killed 22 people. it brings the total number of suspects in custody to eight, aged between 18 and 38. jane hill is in manchesterfor us.
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good afternoon from st ann's square in manchester where people still come all day as they have for many days to lay flowers in memory of those who died on monday night. let's start this hour by talking about the latest in the investigation. a number of raids including two in the moss side area of this city, one man arrested. all the latest details come from our home affairs correspondent, daniel sandford. the hunt for the accomplices of the manchester bomber led to this barber's shop in moss side overnight. police appeared to have sawn through the security shutter to get access. local shopkeepers say the two brothers who ran the barber's were arrested on tuesday and police cut their way into the shop last night. there was another raid in st helens in merseyside, but nobody arrested there. police still have eight
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people in custody. they're men aged between 18 and 38, all are being held on suspicion of terrorism, and most appear to be of libyan origin. the flat that salman abedi seems to have rented for the final days before the attack is being searched. it's thought this is where he did the final assembly of the bomb, but police are worried that there are components for one more bomb that are missing, so the threat level remains at critical, meaning another attack may be imminent. that's why armed police officers are patrolling on trains outside london for the first time, and the army are still very much involved. over this weekend, normal events will take place. the police are engaging with the organisers of the events to ensure that we can get all of the support at the events that people want to have, and we may see additional military presence there. but i hope that they can take comfort from it, be able to feel more secure, because we mustn't let this terrible terrorist incident
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impact on our lives. the bomber, salman abedi, flew back into the country from libya. and we're learning more about his father, ramadan abedi, who was detained in libya this week. he is believed to have had strong connections to abu qatada, a suspected senior al—kyleda figure in london until he was detained after 9/iii. this man told bbc arabic that abu qatada and ramadan abedi were always in london together. he was one of abu qatada's supporters in london and would always meet up. all the time, the police operation is expanding as the detectives try to find missing bomb parts and members of the bomber‘s network not already in custody. katrina renton is our correspondent
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at greater manchester police headquarters. ring us up—to—date with what police there are telling you about the latest in this continuing investigation. we've got some more detailfor you now. we heard that overnight one man was arrested in the moss side area of manchester and we understand there will are several searches going on in properties across the north—west in england. in a pizza shop in merseyside and in a barber's in moss side in manchester. the number of arrests is up to ten. a 16—year—old boy has been released, a 3k old woman was raised earlier in the week both without any charges. that leaves eight people in custody aged between 18 and 38. they are all men, one of them salman abedi's older brother. they are felled because
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they are suspected of terror offences and no one has been charged. taking progress, considerable progress, in this investigation but the terror threat still remains at critical. one senior security source at the bbc has said this is partly because of concerns of copycat attacks. he said there is as much concern about the risk of an attack linked to this incident as other individuals trying to copy what has happened or seeing it as an opportunity to trigger their own strike. there have been clusters of plots and attempted attacks following major incidents in the past. there have been five foiled plot since the westminster attack in march. other developments, the leaks attack in march. other developments, the lea ks into attack in march. other developments, the leaks into the american press that caused all of those problems stopping greater manchester police
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from sharing their information with the americans, that has now been lifted, they have resumed sharing their intelligence is because they've been given assurances from washington there will be no more breaches of trust. and we're looking ahead to the bank holiday weekend, a big weekend for manchester, a big weekend for the public here to get back to a sort of normality, a sort of trying to enjoy their city and the police are trying their best to make sure that goes ahead. there will be increased security but the great city games and the great manchester run going ahead as planned and as normal. thank you for now. we will be talking about those games in just the next few minutes. before we do that, we will talk a little bit more about those who were so very badly affected on monday night. the last name was released this morning, the name was released this morning, the name of the 22nd victim at the manchester arena megan hurley, just
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15 years old, a reminder of how many young people were caught up in that atrocity on monday night, in terms of those who died and those who suffered serious injuries. our correspondent has spent the day in manchester reflecting on the loss of family and friends. manchester — a city which has been punched and badly winded. yes, it's trying to carry on, but it doesn't feel right. the people of this conurbation just feel so sorry for those directly affected. how do you explain that to your children? someone just come and... done that. ina concert... it's just awful. i'll be holding on to my kids that little bit tighter. it is inconceivable to understand how the families are feeling. especially of the children. it'sjust shocking. you just want to do something.
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even if you canjust come here and bring flowers, put it down and remember the dead. i've been a coronation street superfan my entire life... 29—year—old martyn hett was one of those murdered on monday night. the flamboyant coronation street superfan was well known online. his mum paid tribute to him today. i genuinely... at the moment, it will change, it will hit me at some point, but right this minute i don't feel the need to be upset and cry. when i think of martyn, all i can think of is smiling, because i have so many fond and really funny memories. the final and 22nd victim to be named today was 15—year—old megan hurley. her family's sandwich—shop business on merseyside is closed as they try to deal with their loss. in the north east, further tributes have been made to chloe rutherford and liam curry.
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the teenage couple were devoted to each other. chloe was an apprentice travel agent in south shields. just from the moment she walked in the door, she had that smile on herface, and it rubbed off on everybody else. if you'd had a busy day, her smiling face just lifted you. there is a very sombre and respectful atmosphere here. it may be four days after the atrocity, but that really is just a blink of an eye. and people are still trying to come to termed with what happened — and coming to pay their respects. this sea of tributes will grow over the coming days, a focal point for a city in shock. danny savage, bbc news, manchester. we know of course there are so many people in hospital and let's get an update from our health correspondent. what medics saying to you? good afternoon. we know that in
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total 116 people were admitted to hospitals needing treatment in the wa ke hospitals needing treatment in the wake of this terrible atrocity. we know also there are 75 people who are still being treated in aid hospitals spread across greater manchester. of those, 23 are in critical care, which doesn't mean they aren't critical condition but they aren't critical condition but they aren't critical condition but they are receiving a high level of care. iam they are receiving a high level of care. i am in the centre of the city and hear their rather 32 patients still in this hospital, 18 of them adults, 1a of them children, five of those adults and five children are in critical care. there is a significant number of people receiving care, some of them will require further surgery, we have been told, so it is posing an extra strain on the health service ride across the greater manchester area. interestingly, within the last hour orso, a interestingly, within the last hour or so, a woman interestingly, within the last hour or so, a woman arrived who was from
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a significantly sized libyan community, she came from trawl turned, which is where the libyan community tends to be based, and she brought some cakes and biscuits from the shop she runs and she wanted to donate them to the staff who have been caring for people. it is having an impact right across the community in manchester. thank you for now. dominic hughes at manchester royal infirmary. as we have been reflecting today, we are approaching what looks to be a glorious bank holiday weekend across the country, and there are lots and lots of events, particularly going on in manchester. very long in the planning, for example the 10k run going through the city on sunday. today, in just an going through the city on sunday. today, injust an hour or two, the great city games begin. let's talk to david hart whojoins me here at st ann's square from those games. welcome. your thoughts about these
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games happening today, i'm sure so very long in the planning but against such a different backdrop than you ever could have imagined. absolutely and our thoughts as organisers are with everybody has been affected by the awful incident earlier in the week. but our planning has been going head. it wasn't up to us whether or not the event would go ahead, that was the police and the council but the all clear was given so now we are concentrating on delivering a world —class concentrating on delivering a world—class event. concentrating on delivering a world-class event. what does it mean? what disciplines, who was taking part, how can people get involved, particularly in manchester? two very different events over the next few days. tonight, it is about the elite runners, long jumpers and pole vault is. in albert square we have the long jump is. in albert square we have the longjump and is. in albert square we have the long jump and pole vault. in deansgate, there will be four lane track, where some of the fastest sprinters will be their distances. the preparation is enormous, of
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course. i'm curious, what do you feel this all going ahead can and will mean for manchester? we have heard so much in the last few days about this being a city that is really coming together. what part do your games play in that, do you believe? when we were able to say the event is going ahead of the city games and the manchester run, we we re games and the manchester run, we were overwhelmed by the reaction. the outpouring of emotion from participants, spectators etc was incredible, we were overwhelmed and we didn't really know what the reaction would be. thousands of people, literally thousands of m essa 9 es people, literally thousands of messages have come through expressing their pleasure we were able to give them a platform to demonstrate their solidarity, the passion the city has. have any of the athletes, anyone taking part raised concerns with you? is there a degree of nervousness? not one athlete, not one elite athlete who
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is involved over the weekend has pulled out. i'm sure there will be some 10k or half marathon runners who would decide not to take part but most of the messages have been from people who change their mind coming around and saying i will do it, i might walk around in a slower time but i want to be part of this incredible event for the city. we wish all the best and we look forward to watching it when we can. thank you so much for being with us, good to talk to and good luck for your event. thank you. that all begins quite soon. the 10k on sunday as well. let's return our attentions to the continuing investigation and so many questions being asked about how and why something happened in the way it did on monday night. carried out by a 22—year—old man born in this city. we will be discussing that in a few moments.
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before that, let's hear a little bit from someone who did no salman abedi. this is someone talking to the bbc whose brother went to school with salman abedi. this is what he's been telling us. he was a troublemaker, just a normal kid. he wasn't extraordinary. he got in trouble here and there. you didn't see him as different. i saw him about a year and a half ago. he said he was going to join and access course. he seemed he was sorting himself out. he was back and forward to libya and he does have the history of being involved in the fighting. it's odd he's involved in the fighting them back on the straight and narrow. what do you make of that? i don't know. i don't know if you was fighting for isis. he was fighting for a conservative
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group but they are not the sort of types that go around trying to create a caliphate. they wanted to bring sharia, they were fighting way before what happened in libya. people tried to tie them with isis, which is a bit unfair. they are not a great group of guys but they are not isis. some lfig guys had links to al-qaeda rather than isis. they we re to al-qaeda rather than isis. they were many anti—gaddafi ‘s. to al-qaeda rather than isis. they were many anti-gaddafi 's. that was their purpose, they just were many anti-gaddafi 's. that was their purpose, theyjust wanted to get rid of gaddafi. did he ever talk about any of that? not really, i didn't talk to him that much. i was talking to him about what he was going to do in life. but he seemed on the straight and narrow? yeah, he seemed like a normal guy. so, that interview from the brother of someone interview from the brother of someone who went to school with salman abedi. let's discuss the issues the atrocities of monday
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night throws up. joining me from bradford is professor paul rogers, professor of peace studies at the university. mohamed abdul malek, acting iman of the muslim youth foundation mosque in manchester. welcome to you. your thoughts first of all in a broad sense about what has hit manchester, about manchester's response to what happened on monday night. the most prominent thing that i am concerned about now is that the sense of peace and safety has been shattered for all of us. and that, being a father and a grandfather, i am now also worried my children or my grandchildren will go to a football match alternative a rally or and activity and i'd be wondering whether it is too dangerous for
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them. i hope it will not beat us, i hope it won't prevent us from ensuring our children develop to theirfull ensuring our children develop to their full potential. and that they enjoy whatever manchester is able to provide. the fear is there. and i think we demand that the authorities do whatever they can to bring back the safety to our beloved city. what does that mean, though? does anyone know how to prevent young men, in this case someone born in this country, in this city, from becoming radicalised? this country, in this city, from becoming radicalised ? you this country, in this city, from becoming radicalised? you will know that this is the question that eve ryo ne that this is the question that everyone is asking, people who have been laying flowers today, they ask us been laying flowers today, they ask us that, who has that answer? to tell you the truth, if i knew the a nswer to tell you the truth, if i knew the answer to the question, i would be the most important man on earth
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today. i don't know the answer. but ican today. i don't know the answer. but i can speculate. i don't want to do that, because i don't want to come across as trying to find excuses for salman, and definitely these questions are serious questions that we need to address ourselves also macro, but let's come to terms with what has happened. once we do that, a few weeks, maybe we can sit down and consider why would such a young man, 22 years, do something that will shame and harm his family and his people and everyone who knew him and the islamic community, manchester at large, and the world? why? why would he kill himself and kill young people who could easily
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have been his schoolmates? indeed, it isa have been his schoolmates? indeed, it is a valid question. i know you are going to stay with us, let's talk to professor paul rodgers in our bradford studio, your thoughts on the events of the last few days, first of all. in terms of what was said earlier on, the terrible thing about the manchester attack is that it was almost a classic example of terrorism, almost academic, i'm afraid to say, in that it was an attempt to target a small group to have an impact on a much larger group. the nature of the people, the venue and all the rest, designed to maximum effect. from the perspective of whoever would have been generally behind it, the intention was to create the fear, but also a lot of community disruption, to cause more hatred and anti—muslim imagery, andrucha waddington is capable of doing. the most important outcome so
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far has been the way that people in manchester and other parts of britain have held together. this directly counters one of the main aims of the perpetrator or perpetrators behind this. it still does raise questions of what radicalisers people, but the direct response we have seen radicalisers people, but the direct response we have seen has been hugely welcome, and in some ways quite brilliant. some of the things that have been televised, it is exactly the kind of thing that we need to do. so i see what you are saying in that the response has been positive and welcome — in terms of these iwobi —— the issue of radicalisation, what is your take when so much of it is apparently online, that is where the battle has to be fought, if i can use that language, is that accurate from your
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perspective? there are three things, a spot question, first of, the first way that people are radicalised, they vary differently. there is not one answer that fits all. secondly, the second thing is, yes, the internet and the new social media are important, so the prime minister made that very clear today, she told the very interestingly about the move from the battlefields to the internet. i think that is true and it has not received enough attention. some of the very big new social media companies that are making, frankly, billions of dollars in profit, they could put a lot more effort into trying to control the level of hatred that seems to seep through. the final point is crucial, and that is that there are connections with what is happening in the wider world, whether we like it or not. we cannot get into a
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political controversy over this, but everybody knows full well that what is happening in terms of radicalisation isn't isolated from the very bitter conflict that we have seen in afghanistan, iraq and syria, and also in libya in this case. if we are going to try and get an answer, we have to look at all three of those, more work on trying to find out how de—radicalisation can work, particularly with young people, and many mosques are doing a very good job. internet, absolutely, but also make the connections, because this is so important, and particularly a group like isis is very clever at using what happens in iraq and libya to promote its own cause, and we do not have a handle on that. that's very interesting, you were nodding at that point, when the professor was talking about isis and the clever way in which it operates, and also your thoughts about that and the work online — do you agree that there is more to be done online? i do agree that there
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isa done online? i do agree that there is a lot to be done online and elsewhere, because it is notjust online. salman must have worked with a network, where would he get access to explosives, for example, knowing exactly when the concert is going to finish, sitting there waiting, so there is a network on the grounds that needs to be dismantled, needs to be followed up. the social media is part of the material that is used to recruit these people, definitely. but there are other ways. and he said good work being done in mosques, but always more to be done, is that a fair comment? the problem with masks at present is that there is not enough cooperation between the different bodies. there is not enough co—operation between religious organisations, between the
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mosque, the church and the temple. there is not a —— enough co—operation between them and the government. that is interesting, thatis government. that is interesting, that is very interesting, we could discuss this. much longer, we appreciate your standing in the sunshine with us in st ann's square, thank you very much. i think i could tell that the professor was on a webcam, forgive me, but thank you very much for talking to us, more from central manchester in the next few minutes, but we will pause and catch up with the weather prospects as we approach the bank holiday we can. stabbed danaos has the latest. —— stav. temperatures in the upper 20s, and thatis temperatures in the upper 20s, and that is what we will see in much of the country, we could see 30 in the
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north of scotland, and this might set off an isolated thunderstorm late in the day. this weather front will introduce showers and thunderstorms for wales and northern ireland, quite a warm and muggy night, dry further east. these showers will be hit and miss, skies brightening through the midlands, southern england, wales, but severe thunderstorms possible for the north of england, hail, flash flooding, and storms in the north of scotland as well. hello, this is bbc news, the headlines:
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let's turn to one of the breaking stories of the afternoon, sir cliff richard and south yorkshire police have settled a legal fight over reports naming him as a suspected sex offender. the singer sought damages from the force and the bbc over media coverage of a police rain on his home back in 2014. he was investigated over historical sexual assault allegations which he denied. the case was dropped last year. joining me is our correspondent keith doyle, tell us what has happened today. we know that lawyers for sir cliff richard told a hearing in london today that he and south yorkshire police have reached an agreement. the singer had taken action against the bbc and south yorkshire police over coverage of a rain at his apartment in berkshire in august 2000 and 14. sir cliff was investigated for historical sex
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assault allegations, which he denied, and the case was dropped by the cps last year. he had claimed that he had suffered what he called profound and long—lasting damage from the incident, and he said that the way that the police and the bbc cooperated had infringed his privacy and he wanted a very substantial damages. we do not know what damages we re damages. we do not know what damages were awarded, but previously south yorkshire police had apologised. in their words, they apologised wholeheartedly for the additional anxiety caused by the initial handling of the media interest in its investigation into the singer. all of that concerns south yorkshire police, this isn't over yet, sir cliff is still in dispute with the bbc. yes, that dispute was with south yorkshire police and separately with the bbc. the bbc and sir cliff remain separately with the bbc. the bbc and sircliff remain in separately with the bbc. the bbc and sir cliff remain in dispute. the bbc has made no comment on today's developments, but previously a spokesman said that the bbc had reported sir cliff's full denial of allegations at every stage, and they said, we have previously said we are
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very sorry that sir cliff has suffered distress, but we have a duty to report on matters of public interest, and we stand by our journalism. so he has settled his case with south yorkshire police but is still in dispute with the bbc. more now on the manchester attack. until the tragedy in manchester, the london bombings of 2005 were the worst atrocity by british—born islamist terrorists. 12 years ago, the bombers were led by a gang who grew up in the beeston area of leeds. our religious affairs correspondent martin bashir has been there to gauge the response to what's happened in manchester. what have you been doing since 7/7? why do we have another terrorist attack in the uk after 12 years? this man, ahmed patel, was related to mohammad sidique khan, one of the ringleaders who left the city of leeds to plant death and destruction in london on the 7th ofjuly 2005. we come to a critical point... he asked us not to show his face.
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yes, we do condemn terrorism, but not loud enough, and only when something happens. these people are members of leeds' muslim youth group. they offer voluntary service to the community and believe their faith inspires their action. for me, as a muslim, i feel outraged that someone would use the name of my religion to justify carrying out these acts. this is spreading and doesn't look like stopping any time soon, which is scary for all of us, muslims and non—muslims. people are finding it very hard to accept that these people who are self—professed muslims had nothing to do with this. when people seem to see a pattern in particular community of faith, it can appear that that faith is driving them. for at least the last decade, social scientists and psychiatrists have tried to understand why a small number of british—born muslims express themselves violence. we know that in migrants and their children,
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they have all sorts of difficulties, including mental illness. social isolation is a factor, youth is a factor, depressive thinking, pessimism, lack of empowerment and control. but while academia continues to research the phenomenon, the nation must rely on community and religious leaders to fight back against the small but dangerous few who want to pursue terror. these young men who are committing terror on our soil or elsewhere, they do profess to belong to the muslim community. but it is 12 years since beeston produced the 7/7 bombers, and we have it happening again. and we cannot be complacent. the muslim community repeatedly reported these perpetrators to the intelligence services, including salman abedi. cooperation and community engagement remain the priorities, both here in leeds and across the country. martin bashir, bbc news, leeds.
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staying with aftermath of the manchester concert attack. the man suspected of being behind the bombing, salman abedi, was born and bred in manchester. it's raised familiar questions about home—grown terrorism and the government's existing strategy called prevent, which aims to stop vulnerable people from being radicalised. yesterday, home secretary amber rudd said, "there's really strong evidence of prevent initiatives helping families, saving children's lives and stopping radicalisation." with me is to discuss the government's prevent strategy is reality check correspondent chris morris. chris, let's start with the basics, what is prevent? it is one of the four big strands of the government's
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roared counterterrorism strategy — prepare, pursue, prevent. rabente is the programme which aims to identify people who have fallen prey to extremist ideas, possibly taken out terrorist activities, and persuading them to change their mind. it means that police need to build relationships in schools, mosques, universities, anywhere where people might be radicalised. it also involves people in positions of authority, doctors, social workers, teachers, they need to be prepared to refer people where they have suspicion or concern. the latest numbers we have, for 2015—16, there we re numbers we have, for 2015—16, there were 7500, roughly, referrals to the
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programme. if you think about it, thatis programme. if you think about it, that is nearly 28 day on average, so a pretty active programme. 20 a day on average, so a a pretty active programme. 20 a day on average, so a pretty active programme. we can break down the numbers. about 10% of that number we re numbers. about 10% of that number were deemed, in 2015—16, to be bold rubble to terrorism, meaning they would immediately be identified as needing counselling and persuasion. —— to be vulnerable. another 25%, there was concern but they would not deemed to be at immediate risk. some of them would also have had some mentoring. another 37% of that 7500, no action was taken, those people we re no action was taken, those people were deemed to be in the clear. and another 28%, when these figures were released, were cases that were still being considered. it is important to
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remember, i think, being considered. it is important to remember, ithink, that being considered. it is important to remember, i think, that if you look at this 7500, in cases where an ideology was recorded, roughly 50% would do with islamist extremism, about one in ten were right—wing extremists. the discussion is about whether the system works. this is the big question, the government broadley says it does, and they are supported in that by many senior police officers. one of the figures that the government uses to back that the government uses to back that up is say, look at 2015, 150 people, including 50 children, were stopped from going to war zones in syria and iraq as a direct result of the prevent programme. they say that tens of thousands were reached by their and de—radicalisation programmes. but there is a bat, number one, the manchester bomb, abedi, we know that a dossier was
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passed to the authorities, we are not sure to what extent prevent was involved, but he is clearly someone who slipped through the net. more broadly, there are other groups who are not happy with prevent. the nut have criticised it, so have many muslim leaders. the word toxic has been used, they see it as a programme which, if you like, stigmatise certain parts of the community. so it is a balance. if you look at the manifestos of the parties, where would this be going? the conservatives do not mention prevent specifically in a manifesto, but amber rudd has said the tories would intend to increase funding for prevent. labour has said it would review prevent, look at its effect on communities and decide how to continue with it. the lib dems, probably the most radical alternative, have said they would scrap it altogether and replace it with a new programme which was much more community—based. so it is
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something which is still a subject of controversy, and i think a lot more focus will be honoured after the events in manchester this week really interesting, good to have your analysis. ina in a moment, a summary of the business news, but first the headlines: jeremy corbyn has criticised the government over police cuts and says there has been a link between foreign policy and terrorism. neither of the two main parties are presenting voters with an honest set of choices on taxation and spending, the ifs once. police investigating the terror attack in manchester say a further arrest today brings to eight the total number of people in custody. hello, now the business news. a leading think—tank says neither labour nor the tories are being honest about the economic impact of their planned policies. the institute for fiscal studies
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says tory plans would most likely mean more austerity. while labour plans would mean big increases in tax and spending. new regulations on payday loans come into force today. online lenders will have to advertise on at least one price—comparison website. this comes after an investigation by regulators who want borrowers to know about other options for borrowing. the industry has already complained about being over—regulated. the price of crude has fallen by about 5%. that's despite oil producing countries agreeing to extend their cut in production until march next year. investors had been hoping they'd extend the cut even further. lots of you will be enjoying the sunny weather today. but it isn'tjust good for topping up that tan. it's also good news for the national grid. that's because around 24% of of our energy today is coming from solar. and that's a new record. alastair buckley is a senior lecturer in physics
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at the university of sheffield. he heads up a project to monitor the uk's solar energy output. thanks forjoining us, it looks like you have been enjoying the sun! what is so special about today, we have had a sunny days before. today we see the pete kennaugh are from our installed output capacity at about 8.24 gigawatts. but what is it about today? we have had a series of great days over the last few weeks or so, what is it about today that has driven up that capacity? so it is an extremely sunny day with clear skies across the country, and when you combine that with the long daylight hours at this time of year, you get a very large amounts of solar energy being
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generated in the uk.” large amounts of solar energy being generated in the uk. i can see you are struggling with your earpiece, let's plough on if we can. we have had a cuts in subsidies, as that hurt the way that solar is spreading? so we had a period of rather rapid growth in the number of systems being installed in the uk, and then over the last couple of yea rs and then over the last couple of years the growth rate has declined quite substantially. we are still seeing more systems being installed, so we seeing more systems being installed, so we would expect to see more records being broken in the future in terms of peak solar generation. but the speed at which those cuts have been kind of deployed has maybe hurt the industry somewhat, and now we are hurt the industry somewhat, and now we a re really hurt the industry somewhat, and now we are really only seeing ground systems being installed, rather than rooftop systems as well. now, of course, other renewables are also gaining in importance, what is the status of those? are we going to see an increasing reliance on renewables
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to my we will definitely see an increasing reliance on renewables if the carbon targets are to be achieved. we will need to see increasing wind and solar deployment across the uk, we will need to adapt the way the system works in order to cope with those new renewables. i would say, at the moment, that wind is still our most effective renewable resource in the uk. in the future, i think it will probably be our cheapest source of electricity. 0k, our cheapest source of electricity. ok, let's hope we can renew that get these! thanks for joining ok, let's hope we can renew that get these! thanks forjoining us, rachel, back to you. —— that earpiece. it's a dream which has been more than a hundred million pounds in the making — now four—time olympic sailing champion sir ben ainslie is vying to win the oldest trophy in international sport — the america's cup. britain has never won the competition, but ainslie and his team hope to change that.
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our sports correspondent natalie pirks was given exclusive access to the team as they prepared to race. as the most successful sailor in olympic history, sir ben ainslie is well versed in pursuit of glory. but over in bermuda today, he finds himself in a most unfamiliar role — that of underdog. in its 166—year history, no british team has ever won the america's cup. i guess you could say the america's cup becomes a life obsession. it's very hard as a new team to come into the america's cup and get into a dominant position. certainly, that's what we're aiming to achieve. i think we've certainly come a long way in the last three years. ainslie has previous in the cup. four years ago, he won the oldest trophy in sport with us team oracle. in a spectacular fightback, they came from 8—1 down to beat new zealand 9—8. the comeback of 2013 is complete! they are gliding over the water on the foils,
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and the aim is to not touch the water as much as possible, because that will minimise drag and of course make them go faster. it's just amazing to watch. there is no engine on board. it's all generated by sheer muscle from the sailors. speed is the key here. the boats are capable of hitting up to 60mph. but bar have struggled a little in practice. ainslie's wife, georgie, who's moved with him to bermuda with their ten—month—old daughter and their two dogs, believes that his rivals write him off at their peril. if you're silly enough to wind him up to that level where he feels like his back's against the wall, he'll respond the only way he knows how, which is to win on the water. it's a costly venture, though. rookies bar have spent £110 million chasing this dream. £6.5 million of that is taxpayers' cash for helping to build their portsmouth ho, but for ainslie,
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the trophy would be priceless. personally, and i think for everyone in this team, i believe it would be the biggest achievement if we can pull this off, if we can win the america's cup for britain. look at our sporting maritime heritage, it's the one thing that's missing, it would be huge if we could bring the cup home. mild—mannered out of the water, ruthless on it. this knight of the realm is a man on a mission. natalie pirks, bbc news, bermuda. we may not be in bermuda, but it feels pretty hot, now the weather prospects with stav. high pressure is the dominant force of this warm air moving from the near continent, but this weather front will bring a thundery breakdown during the course of the night and the weekend, already bringing thicker cloud to the west of ireland, heavy showers. ahead of
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it, barely a cloud in the sky. through this afternoon, temperatures likely to rise to the high 20s between london and north—west england, maybe 30 celsius across the north scotland. this high temperature could spark the odd thunderstorm. this weather front will introduce showery rain to the south—west of england, wales, northern ireland through the night, thunderstorms mixed in, torrential downpours in places. the system pushes northeastwards during saturday, a fine sunny start across eastern areas, a line of thunderstorms moving northwards quickly through the morning, hit and miss, torrential downpours on it, other areas staying dry altogether. it will become confined to the north and eastern side of the uk through saturday afternoon, with a good deal of sunshine across southern britain. away from the coasts and the far south—west, in towards western
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wales, cool and cloudy, 20 of sunshine, hot and humid, wales, cool and cloudy, 20 of sunshine, hotand humid, maybe 28-30. sunshine, hotand humid, maybe 28—30. northern england, scattered showers and thunderstorms becoming quite intense through the afternoon, hailand quite intense through the afternoon, hail and frequent lightning, maybe flash flooding. for northern ireland, much of north—west scotland, a very different day, cloudy with persistent rain. still quite warm across the north of scotland. sunday looks like we will see sunshine and showers across many areas, remnants showers across the north of scotland, then something thundery pushing into the south and south—east later, and that will herald an area of pretty intense thunderstorms spreading northwards. bank holiday monday, they will be confined to the east of england. warm and humid in the south, but as worthy freshening trend will be taking place, with some sunshine. so the bank holiday weekend is mixed, sunny spells at times, but thundery downpours pushing into many areas,
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gradually through the bank holiday week, and as we head into next week, the fresher feel will moving across all areas, temperatures returning to where they should be for the time of year. hello. this is bbc news at 3pm. the headlines. labour leaderjeremy corbyn criticises the government over police cuts — and says there has been a link between foreign policy and terrorism. we must be brave enough to admit that the war on terror is not working. we need a smarter way to reduce the threat from comp toon army countries that generate terrorism. —— countries that generate terrorism. i'mjane hill live in manchester... with all the latest developments from here. police say a further
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arrest today brings to eight the number of people in custody.

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