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tv   Our World  BBC News  November 18, 2017 9:30pm-10:01pm GMT

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hello. this is bbc news. the headlines: police looking for 19—year—old gaia pope have found a body on land near swanage. dorset police say they are "confident" it is the teenager, who has been missing for 11 days. president robert mugabe is to meet army leaders for talks on his future tomorrow, according to zimbabwe state television. thousands have protested against him in harare. the former trade union organiser richard leonard is elected the new leader of scottish labour. he takes over from kezia dugdale, who makes her debut tomorrow on the reality show i'm a celebrity get me out of here. tributes have been paid to captain mike green, a helicopter instructor who died when the helicopter he was in collided with a light aircraft on friday in buckinghamshire. three other men were killed in the crash. now on bbc news, our world. the war crimesjudgment
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the war crimes judgment in the case of ratko mladic is due to be delivered next week in the hague. you may find some parts of this programme upsetting. in the 1990s, terrible things happened here. and even now, bosnia's earth guards its secrets. gunshots. but in order to escape its past, this country must confront it again with the imminent verdict on general ratko mladic, whose list of war crimes led him to be dubbed the
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"butcher of bosnia." in an old factory in central bosnia, the human cost of the war is still being measured. for it is here that unidentified corpses from mass graves are being delivered even today. and the families of 30,000 still missing search for answers. this is, um...
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0verwhelming, in a certain way. there are pictures of the missing. there are human remains pretty much everywhere here, by the hundreds. and then, at the end there, there are scraps of clothing and other things that have been recovered with them. and this place is the main hope that a lot of the families of those missing have for discovering what on earth happened to a loved one who just disappeared all those years ago. having covered the war 25 years ago, i've come back to explore the impact that one particularly malign man had on the lives of thousands. ratko mladic commanded serb forces in the bosnian war.
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he is now facing a verdict on an enormous catalogue of war crimes, including genocide. it has taken six years to try. four days ago marked two decades since ratko mladic became the commander of the main staff of the army of republika srpska, the vrs. on that day he assumed the mantle of realising, through military might, the criminal goals of ethnically cleansing much of bosnia. nusreta sivac was a judge herself in the north—western town of prijedor when serbian troops took it over in may of 1992. she was fired and became one of thousands of muslims sent to an iron ore plant called 0marska that would become
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infamous as a camp where, in a few months, 700 inmates died. 0marska was the product of what was called ethnic cleansing, driving non—serbs out of much of bosnia. 37 women were used to serve in the camps dining hall. during the day they could hear torture going on in their nearby dormitories. night brought its own anguish. i have to admit — i'm somewhat ashamed to admit it —
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that i was a little sceptical of some of the reports that initially emerged in 1992 about what was happening to people in these camps. but pretty quickly, it did become clear that terrible things were happening. and actually, it was the human suffering caused in that initial phase of ethnic cleansing and murder and rape that went on in the north—west of bosnia here that caused the international criminal court to be formed and set in train the whole process of internationaljustice that will culminate in the sentencing of general ratko mladic. 0urfilming was stopped by security guards. what's the problem? he is saying that we are not allowed to film the factory. the iron plant is now in action again under a foreign firm.
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but it's a measure of the sensitivities that 0marska still generates. miroslav kvocka, please rise. early on, the hague tribunal tried several of the 0marska guards. one of those trials featured miroslav kvocka. a policeman at the start of the war, he was described in court as the deputy commander of the camp. then, as now, he portrays himself as someone who saved his muslim wife's relatives from the horror of the camp. the isolated acts of kindness to some prisoners, do not absolve any individual crimes which
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may have been committed. the court said he was culpable of joint enterprise. he knew what was going on. the chamber finds you guilty of the crime against humanity, persecution, and the war crimes murder and torture. in the war, we used to travel into sarajevo via mt bjelasnica. we are here again. this place, reminiscent of the winter olympics, became a battleground as the focus of the war shifted from the area around prejidor to bosnia's capital. and in that long fight, a whole new chapter of war crimes began. very quickly after the war started, the bosnian serbs were driven out
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of most of sarajevo. they held a couple of suburbs on that flank. other than that, they were in the surrounding hills, pouring down sniper and artillery fire on the people below. ratko mladic began a siege which was to last more than three years. and of course, those events now form a central part of the indictments against him. from the beginning of the conflict, ratko mladic brought to bear the serb army's superiority in artillery. and as this intercepted conversation showed, used it against the population of sarajevo. so, you would come out of the flats that morning?
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mia was a 7—year—old living on the street. how did the vibe change in the war? it must have been a big, big change? it was a shock. the siege had just started and she was brought out by a rumour of ice cream. we are heard this extremely loud whistle, and suddenly, the earth began to shake. i went flying up in the air. in another few seconds, all hell broke loose. screaming. i could see everybody lying on the street, people in pieces, a lot of blood. in those dreadful moments in which 20 people died,
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a cameraman captured this fleeting image of mia being carried off. she survived shrapnel wounds. her mother lost a leg in the blast. together, the family and neighbours lived through the following three years, during which, at times, 1,000 shells a day would fall on the city. we were subjected to shelling, and sniper rifles, no water, no electricity, no food. so we were like mice in a cage, pretty much. while the world awaits the mladic verdict, the hague process has gone
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on for so long that some convicts have done their time in european prisons — they could choose where — and been released. a few years ago, jubilant crowds turned out to meet momcilo krajisnik as he returned. he was the speaker of the serb parliament and, having served his punishment, accepts people on his side were also for much of the war, the bosnian serb leadership successfully kept the outside world at bay. sometimes intimidating un troops, at others firing on or even taking them hostage. piano music. but across in the east of the country, events reached a tipping point in the final year of the war. the genocide indictment against general ratko mladic divides
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his crimes into various phases. the early part of the war around prijedor, north—west bosnia. then the siege of sarajevo in the centre. and then, finally, the enormous catalogue of crimes that took place in this place in 1995. srebrenica. music continues. the un had declared the srebrenica enclave to be a safe area. but in fact, as mladic planned its capture, the dutch un troops who were meant to defend it had been abandoned by their higher commanders. mladic savoured his triumph, and recalled past defeats of the serbs by the ottoman turks. srebrenica was overrun,
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and more than 20,000 frightened muslim women and children crammed into the dutch base. rob zomer was one of the soldiers there. still, any time when i walk in this door, a split—second, i smell and see the people. dead people. there is no toilets. babies. everything together. you cannot mention how much it was. thousands of people. as srebrenica fell, one woman gave rob zomer her baby to look after. how desperate must a lady be, when she cares for a young baby, just born. you must protect it, normally.
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to give to some strange guy, because he has a blue helmet? because in that moment it was the best thinking for her, to give the best for her baby, for surviving. he passed the child onto medics, and it survived. mladic guaranteed the women and children's safe passage. but meanwhile, his troops hunted the men of srebrenica. when captured, they were taken to places like this school. soon after the war, we visited it, checking reports that men had been held here and shots fired to keep them under control. 0ur information came from mevludin 0ric, who went back
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to the school with us for only the second time. there he'd seen mladic personally supervising what was to happen next. the men, already terrified, were packed into trucks and taken to a nearby field, where mass murder began. mevludin survived by playing dead among the corpses, and at night he escaped over the mountains to government territory. when we came here in 1996, the main mosque had actually been blown up, and the minaret was lying
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in the street. and it's been restored, and over the years, a good many people have come back, muslim people. not as many as were here before, but a kind of muslim bosniak life has been reconstructed in this town. mevludin 0ric is haunted by the loss of his father, brother and numerous cousins, and also by the fact that he still recognises serbs around here from those killing fields. in prijedor, where musreta sivac returned after the war, there are also reminders everywhere. some men who were never convicted, others who've served their sentences, and who she now encounters on the streets. miroslav kvocka, taking labouring
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jobs since his return, is unable to leave the past behind or get over what he regards as an injustice. for momcilo krajisnik, it's pointless quibbling with a sentence he's already served. he's done with raging against the hague, and today thinks politicians have to leave their sectarian
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approach behind. this remains a divided country, in which sectarian politicians play on national fears. and for that reason, as the trials end in the hague, the pursuit of war crimes will go on in bosnia itself. haunting piano music. hello, thanks for joining hello, thanks forjoining me. time to look at the weather for the next few days. in the short term i think jack frost will pay off a visit. these guys will be clearing through
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saturday night into sunday. through the early hours, the skies will be clearing across most of the country. in the south where we have the cloud and drizzle and mist and murk, things will turn clearer. in the far south—west it is no lower than 4 degrees. most of us will be waking up degrees. most of us will be waking up to chilly conditions. this is what it looks like first thing in the morning are around nine o'clock. beautiful weather in the lowlands but it will be cold, 1 degrees above freezing. 5 degrees for belfast. for much of england and wales, the beautiful crisp start to the day and a touch of frost. this is where the weather starts to turn in the south. we will see a shift in the wind direction. thicker cloud coming in off the atlantic and bits and pieces
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off the atlantic and bits and pieces of rain. most places will be dry and certainly, eastern areas will hang on to the clear whether right through the course of the day until sunset. i think sunday evening is looking clearer and chilly across the east, but in the west, yet another weather front moves in and it will turn down in places like belfast. that is a hint of things to come on monday. the heaviest of the rain is in the north of the country. in the south we have the south—westerly winds. temperatures possibly getting up to 1a degrees. i think the rain will come and go with the course of monday. then it will return again monday into tuesday with low—pressure moving in. the low pressure is moving right into the heart of the uk, into the middle of the british isles. rain could be in the british isles. rain could be in the pennines and lake district. look at the north, we have northerly winds so that little bit colder. a very similar pattern on wednesday as well. the uk is very much split in
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half. in the south, which is often the case, it will be a lot milder with south—westerly winds. central parts of the uk will have the weather front sliding through. this is where we are likely to see the heavy rain. in the north, the air is coming from a different direction, so it is colder. wednesday is pretty messy so it is colder. wednesday is pretty m essy a cross so it is colder. wednesday is pretty messy across the uk, both tuesday and wednesday. come thursday and friday, there is a shift in the weather. this big area of low pressure brings unsettled weather. as it pulls away, remember winds low around the low—pressure like so, it drags in cold airfrom the north, so there will be a surge of colder weather approaching the british isles by the time get to friday and then possibly through the weekend, then possibly through the weekend, the colder air marches into the continent. how cold it is going to get? to early to say. cold enough for thick coats and gloves, especially few live across northern
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parts of the uk. quite a lot happening on the weather front. a mild week ahead with some rain at then towards the end of the week, into the weekend, it looks like we will see a surge of colder weather coming in from the arctic. unprecedented scenes in zimbabwe, as tens of thousands march, demanding the resignation of their president of four decades. as crowds fill the streets of harare and bulawayo, the pressure's on robert mugabe, who's meeting military commanders tomorrow. this is a new beginning for the people of zimbabwe. what i am seeing is the death of a dynasty. it is so special. we have been waiting for this for 37 years. amid reports mr mugabe is refusing to stand down, it's believed his own party will consider sacking him as leader tomorrow.
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we'll have the latest live from harare. also tonight... a body's found in the search for the missing teenager gaia pope. tonight, her sister paid this tribute. she is, i'm not going to say "was" and i never will, she is the absolute light of my life.
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