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today at five: zimbabwe's president robert mugabe is facing impeachment proceedings after a deadline set by the country's ruling party for him to step down expired. protestors are back on the streets in zimbabwe. they are demanding an end to the 37 year rule of mugabe. until robert mugabe comes to sentences, we are stu d e nts mugabe comes to sentences, we are students who are demanding we want an end. senior ministers are meeting at downing street to discuss the so—called brexit divorce bill. could there be more money on the table? germany's chancellor angela merkel is under pressure, after her failure to form a coalition government makes fresh elections more likely. she says she would rather have fresh elections and lead a minority government. and bells ring out for the queen and prince philip on their 70th wedding anniversary.
it's 5.00pm. our main story is that members of zimbabwe's ruling party zanu—pf have reportedly drafted a motion to impeach president mugabe. he's accused of flouting the rule of law, being a source of instability, and presiding over a wrecked economy. mr mugabe ignored his party's deadline to stand down this morning. my colleague ben brown is in the capital harare. some in zanu—pf sickie could be forced out within days. protesters are back out on the streets demanding that the only leader many of them have ever known stands down for the good of the nation. the impeachment proceedings could begin
as soon as tomorrow. ben. it was seven hours ago that the deadline for president robert mugabe to resign expired. it came and went with no word from the president. it was a deadline that was set by his own party, zanu—pf, which had already dismissed in, sacked him, as the leader of the party. he is still clinging on to power against all of the odds, clearly to the growing anger of his party, his army, and his people. in response to his decision not to resign, zanu—pf have launched impeachment proceedings against him. they will begin in the parliament down there in the heart of ferrari back mind me tomorrow. they could be wrapped up by wednesday according to a leading member of zanu—pf. it would require two thirds majority by both houses of the parliament to impeach him and end his rule and the final
humiliation for him. our correspondence has this report on days events. the next stage of the battle is set, robert mugabe is on one side, his party on the other. i will preside over its processes... last night he didn't step down as expected. party leaders had given him until today to do so. the midday deadline to resign has come and gone. the zanu—pf party is now preparing to put the final wheels in motion. it has summoned all its lawmakers to the zanu—pf headquarters behind me to discuss a possible impeachment. the process will then move to parliament where the constitution says a two thirds majority will be needed to remove zimbabwe's longtime leader. lawmakers can cite misconduct, violating the constitution or mental or physical incapacity as grounds for dismissal. but it's not clear how long the process will take and this president doesn't appear to be in the mood to play ball.
it depends on how fast parliament moves. it could take a few days, it could take a few months, but the beauty is that it's a process that is provided for in the constitution in section 97 so i think it is now the only hope for the country that the president is removed in terms of that section of the constitution. unprecedented waves of protest across the country have failed to persuade the only leader this country has known to go. and they continue to spread. students at the main university are now boycotting their exams. until robert mugabe resigns, we are not going to write an exam. no one is going write an exam. inflation is rising each and every day, so we are sick and tired because of that. we want him to resign. we want change. the constitution should change, the parliament should change. we should reshuffle our country.
and the war veterans say they will escalate their protests this week. mugabe, go now, go now. your time is up, please leave state house and let the country start on a new page. it's been a long week of events never witnessed here before and the desire to at least give the appearance of removing him by the book is slowing the process down, but finding a quick resolution to this impasse may prove very hard to find. 0ur correspondent milton nkosi is in johannesburg. i know you have met robert mugabe and followed his career through the yea rs. and followed his career through the years. it looks as though he will be removed from office, kicking and screaming, and he will not resign as
dignity as many of his party comrades wanted to. yes, indeed. that seems like the only way that more but —— robert mugabe will leave the topjob in more but —— robert mugabe will leave the top job in zimbabwe. he obviously will not give in himself voluntarily, handing power over to his comrades. he does not want to listen to any of the zanu—pf requests that have really been bugging him since last week. there was a tank parked outside his house and military officers in the room with him and he came out on sunday night and he never wanted to resign. if anything, he says that he will preside over the congress of zanu—pf in december. he has no intention whatsoever to leave willingly. he only has one thing in mind. he wants
to die in office. thank you very much indeed. that is our southern africa correspondent. among the demonstrations we have had here there have been prayer rallies for there have been prayer rallies for the piece, a peacefulfuture of zimbabwe and they have been led by this pastor that is with me now. thank you for being with us. when you watched the tv address last night from robert mugabe, as opposed where you that he didn't resign? there was a fair amount of shock because of what we have been through in the last few days, the march that happened and zanu—pf had fired him as well so the expectation was that the natural step was that he would resign. the shock was that he behaved as though nothing was happening.
i think the writing is on the wall and zimbabwe understands that this is the end for robert mugabe but it may take some time. but we are definitely at the sunset of his room. he is a pretty stubborn guy, isn't he? yes, i think a lot of it isn't he? yes, i think a lot of it is to do with pride. he is trying to maintain some kind of honour. he has ruled here for so many years he is trying to find a way to go with some honour it is a bit too late now because his legacy speaks for itself when you look at the lives of zimbabwe ends on what we are left with in terms of our dreams and hopes and expectations. we saw an amazing demonstration here on saturday with tens of thousands of people on the which would have been unthinkable in years gone by, they would have been beaten up or attacked by the police. as everything changed now in zimbabwe? i think the horse has definitely bolted at this point. we have seen and done things that we cannot see any more. we have seen what it is like, and tasted what it is like to
have freedom of expression and rights enshrined in our constitution and that is what is fuelling zimbabwe ends, the excitement that we can be a free people and that is what we will rally behind as the clamourfor a new what we will rally behind as the clamour for a new and what we will rally behind as the clamourfor a new and exclusive government that will come and we wa nted government that will come and we wanted to be something that will help us to be free in own country. briefly some people say that if mugabe is replaced by a new president, for a example emmerson mnangagwa who is accused of corruption, will he be any different? it is difficult for us to expecting to be much better that the circumstances of him coming into power will demand that some concessions are made. we are depending on our opposition politicians to capitalise on this time so that they can also demand that they are included in the coming government and they can start to dilate the ideology of zanu—pf that has kept us under oppression for so long. great to talk to you. thank you very much for your time. when the military launched their military ta keover the military launched their military takeover here that they will not
call a coup d'etat, they wanted this to look constitutional. that is why they are not forcing robert mugabe out at the barrel of a gun. they wa nt out at the barrel of a gun. they want it to be done constitutionally and it looks as though it will begin tomorrow with the impeachment proceedings that could, and i stress good, because some people say it will take a lot longer, but they could be wrapped up by wednesday. that is it from harare. thank you very much for that. and later in the programme we'll be speaking to tonderai samanyanga, who's the uk and ireland chair of the opposition mdc party in zimbabwe, along with nick mangwana, the uk representative for president mugabe's zanu—pf party. stay with us for that. theresa may is meeting members of her cabinet in downing street, to discuss the so called brexit divorce bill. it's been reported that she's prepared to pay more to help break the deadlock in negotiations with brussels for the uk to leave the eu. the european union's chief brexit negotitator, michel barnier, says britain could be offered an ambitious free trade deal as long as what he called an orderly
withdrawal was agreed. 0ur political correspondent eleanor garnier is following developments. busy ahead of the budget on wednesday, highlighting the government's plans for investing in technology and engineering. but the prime minister and the chancellor, too, know brexit is the backdrop to everything. hello. and it's the money, the so—called brexit bill, that is the main sticking point in the negotiations. we've been very clear that we will honour our commitments. but i want to see is developing that deep and special partnership with the european union for the future and i want to see us moving together because as i've always said, a deal that's good for the uk willbe a deal that's good for the rest of the eu. for the uk will be a deal that's good for the rest of the eu. in brussels, the eu's chief negotiator said the preference was for an ambitious trade deal, but only if brexit divorce issues get sorted. 0n settling the accounts accurately, we owe this to taxpayers, as well as to all those benefiting from eu funding projects.
but there was also a clear message on sticking to the rules and the free movement of goods, capital, services and people. those who claim that the uk should cherry—pick parts of the single market must stop this contradiction. the two sides have been sitting down to negotiations for months, with no major breakthroughs. there's increasing pressure from brussels for the uk to come up with solutions and, back here, calls on the chancellor to watch how he spends taxpayers' money. he cannot afford to play santa claus to juncker and tusk. he needs to ensure we are only paying for what we are absolutely contracted for. and every pound he unnecessarily gives away to the european union is a pound not being spent
on british public services. when theresa may and senior ministers meet later to discuss the size of the brexit bill, they will know agreeing to pay more will quicken the talks but also cause anger amongst some. getting agreement within cabinet is crucial, and as eu leaders keep pointing out, the clock is ticking. in a moment we'll speak to our reporter in brussels, adam fleming. first, though, let's speak to our chief political correspondent vicki young who joins us from downing street, where the cabinet meeting is underway. good afternoon. is it clear that some of the brexiteers in the cabinet are happy to increase the amount of money for the divorce bill after, at one point, one suggested that brussels could go and whistle. yes, this is particularly difficult time thing for borisjohnson, the foreign secretary. we saw been going earlier and they have been meeting now for about one hour. he so prominently went around the country ona
prominently went around the country on a bus that had on the side of it about the money that we would be getting back so it is tricky. but what our art obligations? britain have said we will honour any obligations we have but that will be disputed. the eu have one view on that and i am sure the british government will have another. this is already on top of the £18 billion that theresa may has already committed to. she says no country in the eu will be worse off because of us the eu will be worse off because of us leaving. that takes us to the end of the european budget cycle in about 2020. there has been at reaction today from downing street about the comments from michel barnier when he talked about very cherry picking. downing street have said they want to deepen special relationship with the eu and pointed out that we start with a point where we are very much aligned and that is why it is different for the uk when it comes to future trade arrangements. cabinet ministers are still in that now discussing in principle whether there would be more money to be put on the table and the all—important move to the
next stage in negotiations. that is what the government is very much hoping for but the other unanswered question is what exactly is the british government expecting our future relationship to be? that, as far as we know, has not been thrashed out around the cabinet table. and adam fleming is in brussels for us. theresa may has already put forward something like £18 billion as the starting point for the brexit divorce bill. what is the figure that brussels feel will satisfy them? 18 billion is clearly not what they are looking for. well, the intriguing thing about this whole debate about the so—called brexit financial settlement, which is its taxing —— technical name, they don't talk about a brexit bill here, the people involved in the process say they do not want to come up with a number until the very end of the process. their progress —— their focus at the moment is about a methodology and getting the uk to agree in principle some aspects of the eu finances that it is willing
to pay for. it is incredibly complicated and eat uk is going through all the different bits to work out what it likes what it does not like and it is really scrutinising the legal basis for the demand for all of the money so the actual number will come right at the end which is why the experts in this process a re end which is why the experts in this process are a bit bamboozled when the newspapers start talking about figures. what is intriguing today is that michel barnier has not been talking about the divorce related issues for phase one of the brexit talks, his eyes are on the horizon and he is talking about phase two. he was getting quite philosophical and lay down a challenge to the people he described as ardent brexiteers in the uk, and he basically said to them that there has to be a choice about the future. you can either choose to treat yourself from eu bureaucracy and rip up yourself from eu bureaucracy and rip up the road and go off in one direction, or you can stick closely to the eu rules which will improve your a ccess to the eu rules which will improve your access to the single market. he says if they choose the divergences
option then that trade deal may be harder to sell in the national parliament of the 27 remaining members wear that deal will eventually end up. rather than the phase one divorce issues he is talking about the trade deal and he did say that the eu would be willing to offer the uk and ambitious trade deal, in other words a deep and special partnership but that deep and special partnership will come with some deep and special conditions. 0ne with some deep and special conditions. one that of other news todayis conditions. one that of other news today is that this city is gripped by the competition to find the home forward to new eu agencies based in london which have to relocate after brexit. the boating hasjust been ending for the medicines agency and thatis ending for the medicines agency and that is going to move to amsterdam. that news justin. that is going to move to amsterdam. that newsjustin. thank that is going to move to amsterdam. that news justin. thank you that is going to move to amsterdam. that newsjustin. thank you for that. let's speak now to the former conservative work and pensions secretary, iain duncan smith, who joins me from westminster. thank you for being with us. good
afternoon. we just hope thank you for being with us. good afternoon. wejust hope ian fleming making the point that brussels, or at least the negotiations, aren't willing to come up with a figure themselves for what they think the brexit divorce bill should pay because they want the uk to agree to certain principles governing what that figure should entail, for insta nce that figure should entail, for instance paying for pensions and future commitments and so on. does that seem 30—year? future commitments and so on. does that seem 30-year? actually, this whole debate about money is a little bit off the beaten track because in reality what is being discussed is what is the uk ‘s level of legal commitment. if you remember, the prime minister said in her speech in florence that if there was an interim process, and implementation period, then we would stick to our budgetary responsibilities then and any other legal requirements that we have. the question is really what is our legal requirement and that matter is, and will be, discussed. what will not be given out is any
idea of figures, and they should not be any figures either because at the end of it all, depending on what arrangements we make the eu, it depends hugely on how much money we feel bound if any to give to the eu. a lot of this is really a protracted game by the eu to try and delay any start of any discussions on trade arrangements and michel barnier today started indicating that they might start talking about it but in reality they should've talked about it ages ago. what about the principle of pensions. future payment for pensions which would include some british workers as far as the european union is concerned. in principle, should britain be paying for that? it depends on what you think the definition is what our commitment is. what do you think? it is our commitment to pay british people there their pensions or is that for someone else? my personal
view is the very minimum is where we should be and we should commit eventually to paying pensions for british people who worked in the eu and not to pay for anyone else. there was a lot of debate about whether we should pay for programmes that have not started yet which we had agreed to which is a load of old nonsense, the idea that we would have to pay for some project in spain that was agreed two years ago ardent after we left had not even started, that is an absurdity so there is a lot of really stupid gameplaying going on at the moment. what about projects that have started ? what about projects that have started? this is what mrs may said when she said we would stick to our legal commitment and that defines how much. bear in mind, there is another question really, we have put another question really, we have put a lot of money, many tens and 20s and hundreds of billions of pounds into the eu. we own a whole bunch of assets in the eu. we have a part share in many of these assets so the responding question is to the eu,
when you going to value those assets and the money that we have invested and the money that we have invested and we would like to have that money back. it is not all one way. the eu itself has refused to do that so the this idea that britain is not playing ball is absolute nonsense. do you have a figure in your mind?‘ figure for what? a divorce bill figure. no, i do not have any figure at all, i want to pay as little as possible and only what we are legally bound. the prime minister said that if we have an implementation deal we will pay our commitment of about 18 to 20 billion but if we do not have an arrangement we have no money to pay to them. john edwards seems to think 30 million might be ok. john edwards seems to think 30 million might be 0k.|j john edwards seems to think 30 million might be ok. i do not have a view, ijust million might be ok. i do not have a view, i just want to pay a little as possible because it is british money and it is what taxpayers have been paying over to europe and when we get the money that we will be able to start putting that money towards good use it in the uk. the
commitments that were made of very good commitments to put the money towards the health service and that is where we should be and we cannot have a budget on wednesday in which the chancellor says we have to be tight because we have the deficit going and then at the same time, as he seemed to indicate over the weekend, that we would be very happy to pay an awful lot more money to europe. british people will ask the question, why? why are we paying money to europe when we are tight here at home, and that is the question. we will leave that there. thank you very much indeed. amsterdam will now be the new home of the european medicines agency. tell us more. london is home to the medicines agency which recommends drugs for marketing across europe and monitors their usage in case there are any problems with them. this is both human and drugs for animals. 0bviously this is both human and drugs for animals. obviously we are leaving the european union said the organisation has to leave as well. we have had a kind of beauty contest
where 19th we have had a kind of beauty contest where19th european cities were all clamouring for the right to host the agency. why do they want it? although it only employs about 900 people it comes with a lot of prestige and it attracts a lot of experts who come over here for conferences, seminars, expert panels and so on. 19 cities all had to say why they wanted to host the agency and explain why they were the best and explain why they were the best and offer perks like free office space and even free entry to a zoo for staff of the agency! it boiled down in the end to a 3—way contest between copenhagen, milan and amsterdam and we now hear that amsterdam and we now hear that amsterdam as narrowly won. when will we find out about the other agency? the european banking authority will happen later on today so there should be another vote. many thanks. angela merkel says she is ready to leave her party into snap elections rather than leading an unstable
minority government. germany have been plunged into a political crisis. eight months of negotiations ended when a smaller party walked out citing a lack of trust. we can talk now to damian mcginest, our correspondence in berlin. 0ne assumes that angela merkel is being serious when she says she would rather have another election the band leader minority government, but is this also putting pressure on those potential coalition partners to come back to the table?|j those potential coalition partners to come back to the table? i think most people here would say it is unlikely that those four potential coalition partners would come back to the table to talk again. it is possible after a night of reflection that people might do that but it is seen as unlikely here. i think all of the options here are far from ideal. the option of a minority government is something that angela merkel has always been pretty firm against. that is because it would mean that she would have to really
govern on a vote by vote bases which would be very difficult when to keep the government going over a full period, let alone with the tough decisions that face germany in europe in the next few dears. she has always been pretty much against that. in her statement on german tv just now she was still pretty vague when she spoke about it. she said that she would accept a new and fresh election but she did not sound that enthusiastic either. the german president is certainly very unenthusiastic about fresh elections because it would take months before those elections would actually be held under any result could just be as difficult as the result we have had just now so there is no guarantee that we would not end up with a similarly difficult coalition building process that we have right now. one other option which is really u p now. one other option which is really up in the air is some shift in policy and a shift in stance in
one of the smaller parties because there is a lot of fluidity right now in berlin and there is quite a feverish atmosphere have. there is no guarantee that someone is not going to change their mind or there will not be a change of leadership ina will not be a change of leadership in a smaller party. there are various different options about how our government could be formed without fresh elections but as things stand it is either fresh elections or a minority government and that is the two difficult choices that angela merkel face and she has now said she would rather have fresh elections than a minority government. thank you for that. the queen and the duke of edinburgh are celebrating their 70th wedding anniversary, the longest marriage of any british monarch. they're marking the occasion privately with family and friends at windsor castle. but church bells rang out for three hours at westminster abbey this afternoon, where the queen and prince philip were married. 0ur royal correspondent nicholas witchell reports. archive newsreader: for any girl, wedding day is the day of her life. as the 21—year—old princess arrived at westminster abbey, it was her moment too.
a november day two years after the end of the second world war. at westminster abbey, a wedding of the then princess elizabeth and lieutenant philip mountbatten. and now the solemn service begins. i, elizabeth alexandra mary... take thee, philip... to my wedded husband. band plays the wedding march. it was the start of a marriage which has endured for 70 years and which, from the moment elizabeth came to the throne in 1952, has underpinned the success and stability of her reign as queen. those who know them have no doubt that the bride and groom who signed the marriage register that day at the abbey were deeply committed to each other. 0bviously they were very much in love. it's early love, as far as i can understand, so it's a love match, essentially, it's
a great love story. deeply loyal sense of duty, which is bolstered and encouraged and uplifted, as it were, by their faith. the early years of the queen's reign were not without difficulty for the duke. he felt he had no clear purpose, but he adapted to the role of consort to the monarch and for decade after decade they toured the world and fulfilled official duties together — a couple so much of whose lives have been public, sustained by the private bond between them which remains strong and deep, as the latest photographs, issued to mark their platinum wedding anniversary, make clear. at westminster abbey bells are being rung to mark the anniversary. as for the couple themselves, they are spending the day quietly at westminster, where there will be a private family party in their honour tonight. much more coming up. stay with us,
including the very latest in zimbabwe but now it is time for all of the weather news here. thank you very much indeed. there has been a lot of cloud around today but even where it was cloudy it was mild and where the sun broke through a little bit we had temperatures as high as 17 in a few places. it stayed quite grave for this weather watch in dorset. this evening we will generally have cloudy conditions and patchy rain as well. later tonight heavy rain moving through into england and scotland as well. for almost all of us are mild night but in the northern isles of scotla nd night but in the northern isles of scotland there was still a touch of frost and the cold earth clings on here for the time being. tomorrow a 5°99y here for the time being. tomorrow a soggy start for much of scotland and the rain goes north slowly. another band of rain swings in from the west eventually but for central and eastern areas of england we could stay dry all day long and those areas have a chance of seeing sunshine. 13 or 1a, even if it stays
cloudy amber sunshine could lift temperatures higher than that. heavy rain across central and western areas during wednesday it were clear away and things will turn to lead again from the north on thursday. this is bbc news. the headlines. as protesters take to the streets, president mugabe faces impeachment proceedings as early as tomorrow, after a deadline set by the country's ruling party for him to step down, expired. theresa may is meeting ministers to decide whether to increase the amount britain is prepared to pay the eu as part of a so—called divorce bill. after the breakdown of coalition talks, germany's chancellor angela merkel says she'd rather have fresh elections, than lead a minority government. and the queen and the duke of edinburgh are celebrating their 70th wedding anniversary — the longest marriage of any british monarch. time for the sports news. many
thanks. respects have been paid to the the former wimbledon champion jana novotna, who's died from cancer at the age of 49. she lifted the ladies‘ title in 1998 but will be remembered for the defeat she suffered in 1993 that moved her to tears. it remains one of wimbledon‘s most enduring images. the novotna may have lost the final to steffi g raf, the novotna may have lost the final to steffi graf, but she won a shoulder to cry on from the duchess of kent and hearts of the british public. she told me, you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. i became very emotional and it was very nice. i appreciated very much what she said. novotna finished runner—up in 97 and a year later secured the trophy. she does it!
news of her death has been met with shock and an outpouring of tributes. ican shock and an outpouring of tributes. i can only describe her as someone who was a ruthless competitor, on the court, but utterly sweet and charming off it. a warm person, a lwa ys charming off it. a warm person, always friendly, always the first person to come up and smile and give you a couple of cases. really loved by everyone. the right—hander rose to prominence in the early 90s and became one of the most exciting and successful players of her generation. wimbledon was her only grand slam singles title but she collected 16 in doubles and a total of 100 tournament wins in a glittering career, playing her way into the international tennis hall of fame. she appeared in 2016 in the
invitational mixed doubles at wimbledon. she will always be remembered for the tears and then triumph, refusing to let setbacks keep her down, eventually coming out on top and writing her name into history with a smile. so often a manager who steered clubs to safety. tony pulis was sacked from west brom. former manager gary megson, who was his assistant, takes over until further notice. it should have happened last year. it the worst i have ever seen. i'm not surprised after saturday. it has been coming sometime. i have been coming 34 years and the football has been poor. ronald koeman will be
numberone been poor. ronald koeman will be number one choice. and if big sam comes until the end of the season, secondly, a similar coach to tony pulis but hopefully, like i said, we need to stay up. thoughts of fans following the news of the sacking. the manchester city defenderjohn stones has been ruled out six after suffering a hamstring on saturday and he will miss the champions league tie tomorrow against feyenoord. and david haye has been forced to postpone his december rematch with tony bellew after and injury during training. the fight is due to be rescheduled next year. in march or may. that is all the sport. you can keep up—to—date on the website. i‘ll be back with more on those stories in sportsday at 6:30. the sinn fein leader gerry adams,
who announced his intention to stand down said he wants to be "part of a process of reconciliation". but in a bbc interview, mr adams defended the ira campaign, saying it was a legitimate response to what he described as the oppression of a "huge amount" of people in northern ireland. mr adams was speaking to bbc northern ireland‘s political editor mark devenport. i have condemned the ira at times. i have been hugely critical of the ira at times. but, at the same time, i did accept and do accept yet, in response to the situation of a state that didn‘t want a huge amount of its citizens, and repressed and oppress them, and repressed and oppressed them, and then the british government response to that was to militarise the situation, that the ira was a legitimate response to that. and i will never, till the day i die, move away from that situation. but i‘ve also said on the record that i recognise the bravery of notjust ira people, but also those within the old ruc, within the british army,
within the union‘s paramilitaries. because their families see them, as republican families see their loved ones, as doing their duty. and only when we get to the point when we can all have that sort of acceptance... we do not have to agree. i‘m not expecting anyone to come out and extol the virtues of the ira any more than you expect me to extol the virtues of the ruc or the british army, but i do recognise, at an individual level, the families of those folks have suffered and that there have been brave individuals in all of those forces. gerry adams. the notorious cult leader charles manson, who directed his followers to commit a string of brutal murders, has died aged 83. he‘d been in prison in california for more than four decades. in 1969, his followers, known as the manson family, killed seven people. among them was the heavily pregnant hollywood actress sharon tate,
the wife of roman polanski. james cook reports from los angeles. charles manson — the name itself is synonymous with evil. a killer who did no killing, but whose crimes shocked the world. in august 1969, followers of his cult broke into the hollywood home of sharon tate. the pregnant actress, who was married to the director roman polanski, was brutally murdered, along with four of herfriends. the next night, the so—called manson family killed again, tying up and murdering a wealthy couple. this was the ramshackle ranch in death valley where manson lived in a commune with his young, runaway fans. they apparently used lsd, and saw the guitar—playing ex—convict as a kind of saint, or perhaps a devil. charles manson was charged, not with wielding a knife or firing a gun, but with controlling and directing the killers. i don't accept the court, i don't accept the whole situation. like, i was in the desert, minding my business.
this confusion belongs to you. it's your confusion. i don't have any confusion. i don't have any guilt. i know what i've done, and no man canjudge me. ijudge me. what have you done, charlie? and why had he done it? apparently to spark a race war. it would be called helter—skelter, and he would use it to seize power. in 1971, manson was sentenced to death on seven counts of murder, later commuted to life in prison. over the years, charles manson applied for parole time and time again, but he died a prisoner, having shattered the peace and love of the 1960s with diabolical violence. james cook reporting on the death of charles manson. the electoral commission has reopened an investigation into vote leave‘s eu referendum spending. the campaign paid £625,000 to clear bills allegedly run up by university
student darren grimes with a digital agency, before lastjune‘s vote. a separate group, veterans for britain, received £100,000 from vote leave. the campaign has denied attempting to get round spending limits, which the electoral commission initially accepted — but it now says it has new information. women are being advised to sleep on their side in the last three months of pregnancy to avoid having a stillborn baby. a study ofjust over a thousand women found the risk doubled if women slept on their backs. but researchers say women should not worry if they are on their back when they wake up. the study authors estimate that about 130 babies‘ lives could be saved each year if the advice is followed. ali fortescue reports. i knew something was wrong. i woke up in the morning and ijust knew something was wrong. and we went to the hospital and when they couldn‘t find the heartbeat, they nipped off to go and find a doctor, i knew that there
was something not quite right. lots of cards. these are his footprints. grace lost baby louis at 35 weeks. she still doesn‘t know what caused her stillbirth. he was so tiny, he was just perfectly formed. he had a beautiful upper lip. and i think you always think about the what—ifs, what if i did this differently, why has this happened, what have i done wrong? a lot of guilt. just sadness beyond anything that i have ever experienced. grace says she was never given any advice on sleep positions when she was pregnant. she‘s one of around 1,000 women to have taken part in the midlands and north of england stillbirth study, which is the largest of its kind.
it found that one in 225 pregnancies in the uk ended in stillbirth. that‘s around 11 babies a day. it also found that the risk of stillbirth drops by nearly 4% if women sleep on their side in the third trimester, which could save around 130 lives a year in the uk. # there were two in the bed, then the little one said, "roll over". the study comes alongside a charity campaign. the advice is simple — sleeping on your side could halve the risk of a stillbirth. you might end up in all sorts of positions when asleep, but the important thing to remember is to start on your side. it‘s hard to know for sure but it‘s thought when you lie on your back you could be putting weight on important blood vessels and restricting the flow of oxygen to the baby. research has shown that the number of stillbirths in the uk has gone down in the past two years, but the figures here are still high and above those in many other high—income countries. we want to be one of the best countries in the world and one of the safest places to have a baby. so there's lots of work to do. and, actually, this study
will contribute to that, because it has given us some simple advice to give to women to cut the risk of having a stillbirth. grace has now started a new chapter. nine months ago, reuben joined the family. hearing the baby cry in the delivery room was just amazing. she‘ll never know what would have happened if she‘d had this advice, but grace hopes her story and her part in the study can save lives. let‘s take a look at some of the other stories making the bbc news at five. three people arrested in connection with the disappearance of gaia pope have been released by police and won‘t face further action. the 19—year—old‘s body was found on saturday in a field near swanage, 11 days after she was last seen. dorset police are treating her death as unexplained, but are waiting for toxicology results. the owner of british gas, centrica, has announced it will scrap standard gas and electricity tariffs for new customers. it claims this is part of a series of measures that will be significantly more effective in cutting costs for customers, than the government‘s proposed cap on energy bills. british airways is introducing
a boarding policy that means those buying the cheapest tickets will be called last. from 12 december, passengers will be assigned a number on their boarding passes, depending on how much they‘ve paid to travel. ba said the move brings it into line with other carriers. a bbc investigation has uncovered claims of child abuse within the jehovah‘s witness organisation, and there are fears the church‘s own rules could be protecting alleged perpetrators. some experts believe the problem could be widespread, and the charity commission has now launched an inquiry. felicity kvesic reports. louise palmer, from halesowen, was just four years old when her brother started sexually assaulting and raping her. she‘s waived her right to anonymity to tell her story. it just felt normal. growing up, i thought that‘s what you did with your brother, that‘s what happened. they had been born into the jehovah‘s witness faith, an organisation that preaches kindness and unity. she feels let down by them
after they told her not to go to the police when she revealed the years of abuse. i asked them, "what should i do? do you report it to the police? do i report it to the police?" and their words were that they strongly advised me not to go to the police because it would bring reproach onjehovah. louise‘s brother, richard davenport, was found guilty in 2015 and is serving a 10—year sentence for rape and abuse. she wants the jehovah‘s witnesses to rethink their protection policies. i believe that children aren‘t safe. safeguarding policies need to be updated. no child is ever going to feel like they can come forward, and they‘re not going to be supported if they come forward either. in 2013, the charity commission started a statutory inquiry into the organisation known as the watchtower bible and tract society after safeguarding issues. the inquiry is still ongoing and an mp says he wants reassurances that safeguarding is top of the agenda. people must be free to practise
their religion and we don‘t want to intrude upon that. but if it is established on the basis of a rigorous inquiry that something is going badly wrong, then that is going to have to be ripped out root and branch. i tried to speak to some elders at several kingdom halls across the west midlands. their phones either rang out or they referred me to the watchtower in london, which is their headquarters. the watchtower refused to put anybody up for interview. instead they‘ve given me a statement... for louise, a survivor of years of abuse, the message is simple — don‘t stay silent, tell the police. this is bbc news at 5 — the headlines. as protesters take to the streets, president mugabe faces impeachment proceedings as early as tomorrow, after a deadline set by the country‘s ruling party for him to step down, expired. senior ministers are meeting
in downing street for talks with the prime minister, to discuss the so—called divorce bill for brexit. and the german chancellor angela merkel says she‘d rather face new elections, than lead a minority government, after coalition talks breakdown. an update on the market.... a senior figure in zimbabwe‘s governing party has said zanu—pf has decided to impeach president mugabe and that a final vote could be taken within days. paul mangwena, a member of parliament, spoke to journalists outside a meeting of all the party‘s mps. he said the 93—year—old president will stand accused of giving too much power to his wife, grace, of not respecting the constitution; and of no longer having the capacity to run the country.
let‘s speak now to tonderai samanyanga, who‘s the uk chair of the opposition movement for democratic change party. with me now is the nick mangwana — uk representative for president mugabe‘s zanu—pf party. it is good to have you both with us. it is good to have you both with us. it you are in agreement on president mugabe forfor the it you are in agreement on president mugabe for for the first time, ever, one suspects. the fact of the matter is, robert mugabe is exhibiting the kind of stubbornness you have despised for years. we are not surprised by what mugabe is doing today. as an opposition we have raised concerns about his continued domination in politics, where the
economy is going down, but he has just been pulling every trick to remain in power. we are happy today that me and nick, for a change are agreeing mugabe must go but there area agreeing mugabe must go but there are a lot of things we need to talk about that we may differ on. as an opposition we are excited these things are happening and it has energised the people of zimbabwe and we need to move forward. president mugabe is exhibiting the stubbornness you have applauded for yea rs. stubbornness you have applauded for years. this is no surprise he behaves like this. president mugabe is stubborn, but if it is on principle we identify with, we are proud that principle but the stubbornness now is on selfishness
and of course we criticise it, that goes without saying. in this case it is not about him. every constituent in the country has said he has to go. the general population says he has to go, the military says he has to go. what constituent is left, none. it is stubbornness now, even though it was a value we adored, it is now a burden. do you believe he genuinely thinks he can survive an impeachment vote? i believe that. he does not doubt he has support. you could see throughout his speeches this year, we have had about nine rallies from province to prominence. as faras he's rallies from province to prominence. as far as he's concerned, these people love him. we had the!
million man march, where people were camped before him and it was dumped the solidarity march. and he believes he has enough support from the people and all these people love him. people demonstrated on saturday. president mugabe did not see that. he might have seen pictures on television but as far as he was concerned it was a smaller crowd than the crowd that comes to him so he believes he has support from members of his party. some mps who side with him and that he might win. the impeachment vote. do you think there is the possibility there isa think there is the possibility there is a small possibility that he could survive an impeachment vote, or is ita survive an impeachment vote, or is it a foregone conclusion? the
impeachment vote is determined upon the members of parliament that are going to be debating this. a combination of the opposition hands on apf members of parliament. 0ne thing we need to understand is even within zanu—pf, some of the people banking on the impeachment, we will not fight with them on the impeachment. if i was asked to advise members of parliament i would encourage them to desist on voting for the impeachment of president mugabe that aids is a split group within zanu—pf. what you are
—— that is a split group within the zanu—pf. including the expulsion of the vice president. now they are taking it up with the military standing upfor taking it up with the military standing up for them. this is an internal conflict that has no focus on zimbabwe as a whole and by impeaching mugabe, we will get to a case where emmerson mnangagwa is the president but he is that side of the coin. holding power. including the issues of violence on their people. zanu—pf is clever, it creates sideshows when this is happening. if you remember, in 2013, talking about a lot of things that this government
is corrupted and this person is that, and we lost focus, while sanu pf was advancing its mechanism. —— zanu—pf. pf was advancing its mechanism. —— zanu-pf. he makes a lot of points. this is about the internal workings of zanu—pf. this is a power struggle within that party and at some point it seems president mugabe is going to go but the longer it drags on, the risk of violence, perhaps, continues? i think you saw on saturday there were no policeman on the streets because they have been taken the streets because they have been ta ken away by the streets because they have been taken away by the army but not one single incident of violence. zimbabwe has gone through a lot of economic crises. as a result of zanu—pf. that is a different argument. zimbabwe has gone through economic crisis but if you want is to have that sideshow we can but for
now, zimbabwe is experiencing economic hardship. people in zimbabwe still put up with it without turning to violet and we are not violent in nature. he might advise mdc mps not to vote with zanu—pf. that will be the last time they will be mps because the zimbabwe people want president mugabe to go and any mp who does not pick that up, he is done, he will not win elections in 2018. tomorrow, zanu—pf has the requisite number of mps and we will reach out to the mdc and ask for their support of the second vote where we need 234 members. we want their votes and we will reach out. there is nothing wrong, on a single matter. this is a single matter on which we agree.
let's replace the narrow politics they want to play. for the final word, do you believe, if at some point when president mugabe leaves office, do you believe the political climate will change that will allow your party potentially at some point in the future to become the governing party? mdc, never lost an election, but the system has denied them. whoever, they put in place, zanu—pf, only a free and fair election and platform they will be beaten. remember emmerson mnangagwa lost in one constituency twice. if he can lose to an individual in a constituency, and he is their candidate for the president... what
i want to see is this coup and these issues happening, they have come at a time when we are preparing for voter registration. we are losing focus on this issue which is important for an election that is important. i am going to have to come in there. thank you. you began this conversation agreeing and you end it not agree. i do not think there is any surprise here. thank you. time for a look at the weather. even when it was cloudy today it was mild and that was the scene in lyme regis. where the sun broke through and it did in north—east wales, temperatures got as high as 17 degrees. we have had cold air in
northern scotland but elsewhere it is mild their continuing to pump its way in but the other thing approaching from the south—west is a lot of cloud that will keep on coming from the atlantic. at times it will bring outbreaks of rain. this evening, lights rain. heavier rain through northern ireland, northern england and up to scotland at the end of the night. a mild night for mose. in the north a little bit cooler. a touch of frost in the northern isles. —— a mild night for most. heavy bursts of rain tomorrow. northern ireland dry at this stage. cloud and result in northern parts. south and west, the chance of glimmers of brightness but generally speaking through wales and into the south—west, cloudy and mild
to start but turning more breezy through the day. rain moving northwards across scotland and then more rain across northern ireland and into western areas by the end of the day. in central and eastern areas of england, largely dry, with perhaps glimmers of brightness. sunshine could nudge the temperatures up higher. tuesday night we lose this low pressure but there is another and this weather front will bring outbreaks of heavy rain on wednesday. most likely through wales and into north—west england. perhaps heavy enough to cause issues. further south and east, blustery. the skies brighton and it will get to 15 degrees but cooler the north. as we headed deeper into the week, it looks like cold air will move southwards, particularly across the northern half of the country it will feel
colder by the the key issue — how to solve the dispute over the size of the brexit bill. the prime minister said her position was clear no other eu country need fear that they will have to receive less or pay in more. we‘ve been very clear that we will honour our commitments. but europe‘s biggest player, germany, is in political crisis after its leader angela merkel fails to secure the coalition support she needs. we‘ll be asking what impact the turmoil in germany might have on the brexit talks. also tonight... protests in zimbabwe, as president robert mugabe faces impeachment, charged with allowing his wife to usurp power. could more district nurses caring for people at home help relieve