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is it is clear that donald trump is convinced that we are both contributing to the security of the region. and the main countries in the region benefit from that. i think if we did not do it at the same time, we would also suffer from the consequences of coming destabilisation. next, the fact that these countries could be more involved would be a good thing, and i think that he has in mind all the releva nt i think that he has in mind all the relevant countries in the region. turkey is involved within nato and could also be doing more and turkey has been asking — they have said that they were willing to do more within nato. saudi arabia is also interested in the security of the region. then it is for donald trump to say which country he had in mind. the issue is not very much to say how we are going to finance all about, but about preventing any escalation of tension in the region
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first of all, which would lead to war. second, it is about stabilising syria in the long run, and to implement a strategy that mentioned earlier, and lastly, it is about making sure that there is no more the stabilisation. that only brings about terrorism. if we could first of all do it in the very short term from a humanitarian perspective, it would be excellent. france has said that it would provide another 50 million euros to that effect. anything that is very important. this is also the reason we are together with saudi arabia and other partners. we decided to host a humanitarian conference that will be discussing yemen, but also syria. question from french radio, rtl. you
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talked about integration with the stu d e nts talked about integration with the students yesterday at the press conference. president trump drew a parallel between france and the united states on immigration and he commended your immigration policies, saying i admire the authority you displayed regarding your immigration policy. you commend the fact that you are getting president trump's support to that effect, and what do you think of his approach? first of all, you ask me to commend the fact that he commended my policies? well, it would be a bit odd, we could keep going, so this would be some kind of a recurring thing. so i am not sure what president trump has in mind about the french immigration policies, but i know what is the
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policy we are implementing. we are not old and wall is. our policy is in compliance with the humanitarian commitment that i took, in particular on asylum, and ifully assume oui’ particular on asylum, and ifully assume our policies. not to properly do it means we have to be firm indeed regarding those who do not meet the conditions to be granted asylum, and those who do not abide by the rules. so we have a constitutional duty, and a moral duty, regarding asylum seekers. but then there are some rules. so the philosophy of our migration policy is first of all based upon the first pillar, development. foris years, france has been improving, increasing its development aid,
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because development is my priority, because development is my priority, because it is what leads people to migrate. second, it is a matter of security and in the sahara, we have to deal with all sorts of trafficking, including human being trafficking. thirdly, it is european policy. there are seven drafts detecting our frontiers, policy. there are seven drafts detecting ourfrontiers, our borders in particular, and the fourth point is we need to clarify our rules and french regulations and to make them more efficient. because very often they were not being complied with, and the system was not properly organised. somebody arriving in france who wanted to apply for asylu m france who wanted to apply for asylum or somebody who knew they would be denied asylum, sometimes they came even through other european countries, and they would have to wait for an average of 14
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months before getting a decision. so if we want to properly receive people, if we want to properly treat those who met the right conditions, we need to, no matter what the outcome is, we need to deal with these applications quickly. and we also need to be able to bring home oi’ also need to be able to bring home or send back home and properly those who cannot stay. so this is the policy i am explaining to our fellow citizens. we need a policy to be the proper one. i am citizens. we need a policy to be the proper one. iam not citizens. we need a policy to be the proper one. i am not sure this is the same policy that is being implemented in the united states,
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but authority does not mean being authoritarian, and i have no reason to commend the policies led by president trump. i am not the american people. i have enough respect for the american democracy not to consider that somebody who made some commitments during his campaign then can implement them. i can tell you that this is not my philosophy. this is a fact. but it is not for me to comment or to blame president trump for implementing his commitments. one last question. i can't help you. i do not have a
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microphone. question... you talked about the increasing france's contribution to the coalition in syria. i think this was further to the meeting you had with kurdish leaders in paris? no, and i'm sorry about being blunt. we are indeed fully committed, and we will continue, and we will indeed increase our commitment within the framework of the international coalition. and this is something we will discuss with our american allies. what i committed to doing, in cooperation and coalition with the americans, was to provide some support to the american presence in the north of syria, and in particular east of the euphrates
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river. but our willingness, and it has been the same for a number of weeks, and they keep reaffirming it, and we are implementing it in terms of operations, it is that precisely in this last month of operations against daesh, we very much need to have all the resources, all the means to very much finalise our operation. so it is not very much connected to the north of syria, and the situation there, but it is broader. and it depends upon the needs of the coalition. it is about giving the necessary resources within the coalition. and what will be guiding us is precisely the requests be guiding us is precisely the req u ests we be guiding us is precisely the requests we will receive from the coalition on the ground. and we said we will be open to it. i think it is important to do so. a question from
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france. iran had a very negative reaction to your proposal of a new agreement. so did russia and china. and europe was not itself so enthusiastic. so how optimistic are you that you can succeed? optimistic, pessimistic, in the middle? where do you stand?” believe that it is not my agreement, but it is our strategy, as presented. and let me reassure you, this is being done in the a nation with our european partners, and my diplomatic adviser has been in contact diplomatic adviser has been in co nta ct yet diplomatic adviser has been in contact yet again over the past few hours with his european counterparts. so first of all, it is
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normal that the countries that support iran have a negative reaction, because they support the jcpla, and myself, when i met the president, he was not so much open to that possibility. that being said, there is an uncertainty which we do not control, and none of the countries you mentioned controls, as to the future of the jcpla. then there is iranian activity in the region, which is a fact as well, and it is not covered by thejcpla. so here again i am not saying it is a wonderful idea and everybody has to follow suit. what i am saying is precisely, what else is being suggested? what else is being opposed? ijust suggested? what else is being opposed? i just want to gather the conditions for a reasonable framework to prevent escalation and control escalation of tensions in the region, if the united states was the region, if the united states was the work away from them jcpla, i
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would like thejcpla to be confirmed by the united states and to continue to work on the other three pillars with the countries of the region. —— walk away. that is my favourite solution, favourite scenario. but at least we put on the table the four pillars, one as a matter of substance being covered by the jcpla, and we have a feeling that the united states is willing to work towards those lines. i think this is some progress, because it means we would not be in a vacuum were the united states to walk away from the deal and i2 united states to walk away from the deal and 12 may. but france is seeking to be an honest roca in the situation. —— broker. and my duty is to do my utmost to prevent useless tensions and to prevent war. but nobody has control over everything, so there are some uncertainties as to the united states' intentions, as
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well as iran's, and we have to try and find some convergence. but i am resolutely committed at least to preventing any useless rise of tensions in the region, and france will continue to bring about its international credibility, and continue to negotiate relentlessly. thank you so much for your attention, and for the warm welcome. thank you. french president emmanuel macron, as he walks away from the podium after his three—day state visit posted by us president donald trump. our correspondent chris buckler is there. good to have you with us. what do you think will be the top line to ta ke you think will be the top line to take away from his final statements? i think fundamentally they are, the big question and the big concern is that he has not managed to persuade donald trump on this iran nuclear deal, and he made very, very clear
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that his indication was that donald trump wants to walk away from it, and that america could walk away from it, and that is going to be a big concern. we have had three days ofa big concern. we have had three days of a state visit in which there has been plenty of handholding, hugging, even air kisses. but the fundamental issue here for president emmanuel macron was to persuade donald trump ona number of macron was to persuade donald trump on a number of issues, and iran was at the top of the agenda. despite the schmoozing, it doesn't feel like he has moved donald trump. it feels like he is concerned about what comes next as far as that iran nuclear deal is concerned. and as we know, and as he mentioned himself back, 12 may has been set as a deadline for donald trump to decide what he does next. whether or not he supports what he has called continuously the jcpla, and what thatis continuously the jcpla, and what that is is the joint a plan of action, and basically that is the iran nuclear deal in itself. and president trump is saying that, as far as president trump is saying that, as faras faras he president trump is saying that, as far as far as he is concerned, the
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12th of may is the deadline for him to make a decision. now, the way the steelworks is it is really an easing of sanctions in response to curbing iran's nuclear programme. now, if the us decides that it wants to put in place tougher sanctions again, and it wants to increase that could walk away from a deal, then really that puts the deal itself in serious doubts. i suppose we have seen, though, huge turnarounds, chris, when it comes to north korea. and there was that war of words just a few months ago. so i am always curious about how these things might actually turn out. but stepping back, even, from the press conference, because a lot of what mr macron said was almost like an up some of the speech he gave to the joint houses of congress today. which some are picking up and saying that he went against so many of the fundamental issues that mr trump holds dear —— up sum. how is that going down in washington? he has got an amazing ability to stand alongside donald trump and put his
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hand around his shoulder and very much say you are my friend, yet at the same time, can you see two presidents who are frankly further apart, as faras presidents who are frankly further apart, as far as policy is concerned? and apart, as far as policy is concerned ? and you apart, as far as policy is concerned? and you are right, in terms of that news conference really summing up some of what he was saying in congress. and he is very, very clear that, frankly, donald trump and he did not agree on a lot of policies. yet they have a good relationship. the key thing from president macron‘s point of view, though, is he has sometimes been called, somewhatjokingly, but with a certain amount of reality attached to it, he has been called the trump whisperer, because he can go and talk to donald trump and persuade him ona talk to donald trump and persuade him on a number of issues. certainly he has been credited for having a slightly different approach and syria. but it doesn't feel, despite all that bonhomie, despite all the laughing and joking we have seen in front of the cameras, it doesn't
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feel like he has persuaded him on a lot of issues. and in terms of donald trump, he continues to push the america first agenda, and in that congress speech he was very clear about it not being america first, about president macron really feeling that he wanted to put forward a worldview. and we saw that again today. this is in some respects an incredibly successful state visit, because it is again wanding france and the us. you have seen that real bond between two presidents. but, at the same time, as president macron walks away, there will be some asking exactly what has been achieved. because in that news conference you heard him asked about the key subjects, about syria, on which he is certainly committed, on which france is certainly committed, but donald trump, although he has decided to ta ke trump, although he has decided to take a slightly longer term vision, it is not clear exactly how long he really wa nts it is not clear exactly how long he really wants to be in syria, president macron accepting that very much he sees other people inside the middle east who should be taking some responsibility for that.
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secondly, when we talk about trade, he is saying yes, we want to try and get exemptions, but what exactly has been achieved there again? we don't know at this stage if there are going to be exceptions from the european union, and there are steel and aluminium tariffs coming very, very soon. and that the question of iran, but the question of a worldview, of how those issues are dealt with, again, we don't have certainty about what is going to happen there. so successful visit in terms of personalities, in terms of relationships, in terms of the us and france. but in terms of getting that wider worldview that he was expressing the congress, and so passionate about today when he spoke to america's politicians, has he really achieved that? that is a question we simply do not know at stage. i was surprised, question we simply do not know at stage. iwas surprised, chris, maybe because i have not seen a french leader in the houses of congress before, but at how woolly he was
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received by both sides of the aisle. a lot of things you were saying would chime with democrats, and the relationship with donald trump means he is an important ally for republicans. in some ways, it crosses the house and unites both sides, republicans and democrats together. you watch that applause right across the house. but it is interesting to see just how much he has chimed with the american public and with donald trump. we talk about the special relationship, and sometimes the special relationship means between the uk and the us. i think under this presidency there is no doubt that the special relationship applies for emmanuel macron and donald trump or for the minute france and the united states. as we know, with donald trump, there is not usually as much backslapping and laughter when somebody but
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mentally disagrees with him on so many issues, like iran, which donald trump was the worst deal ever, if we use that. has donald trump responded to the speech that emmanuel macron quito congress? you say that, but what you do find with him sometimes is that when he is in a room, he will work the room. —— gave to. that was some of the frustration with earlier attempts to get legislation through. when he was in the room with republicans and democrats in the room, he was saying i was working with you, i am on your site, then would walk away and have a different view. he is a businessman and a negotiator. maybe this isjust and a negotiator. maybe this isjust a desire to kind of be like in a room. he certainly seems to appeal to people when he is there. and there is an awful lot of
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backslapping that takes place. but you are right in saying that this relationship goes slightly further. in terms of reaction, i been watching donald trump's twitter account very closely, because that is where you get a real sense of just exactly what he is thinking. not public announcements, although the white house was being very clear today that this was an extremely successful visit and they were supporting emmanuel macron and everything he did. but donald trump has not tweeted since that meeting in congress with a manual macron. he has spoken about his speech and has a congress as well. he is the more interested in speaking to canada west who has been supporting him with some of what he has been doing. —— ka nye west. with some of what he has been doing. —— kanye west. and that has been the focus on twitter. so he has not been direct we talk about emmanuel macron's speech. he can have a warm
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relationship and hold hands and had a kiss but at the same time there was a certain amount of a slap delivered by a emmanuel macron after all the warmth. that, as i observed it, was how i saw it, perhaps. but we know what emmanuel macron got from it, a world stage where he could speak and be watched by all people around the world. what did donald trump get from it? ruth lea. i think donald trump as deftly got something out of it. —— briefly. sometimes he does not appeal to other world leaders. there is a feeling that sometimes he is a world leader who goes its own way. that he puts america first and ignores the rest of the world. he looks like an international statesman. when he stands alongside emmanuel macron he looks like that. similarly, he is addressing big issues that sometimes donald trump is not regarded as dealing with properly. at the same time, he also got a good friend out
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of it, let us be honest. chris buckler, thank you so much, talking to us from washington, dc. early today, many macron addressed both houses of congress. he warned of the dangers of nationalism and the threat of global prosperity and urged america not to retreat from the international stage. despite reservations expressed, manual macron said he stood by the deal to limit the iranian ability to produce nuclear weapons. his report contains lush photography. present arms! the social high point of a state visit is the house banquet. and last night, once again that entente, oh—so—cordiale, between some elder statesmen of politics, was on show again. mr speaker, the president of the french republic. today in congress, the french president had a twinkle in his eye.
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in 1778, the french philosopher voltaire and benjamin franklin met in paris. john adams tells the story that, after they had shaken hands, they embraced each other by hugging one another with their arms, and kissing each other‘s cheeks. it can remind you of something. but then, something unexpected — a full—on assault of virtually every policy that donald trump holds dear. forget bromance — this was bromide. first mr trump's isolationist, america—first policies. we can choose isolationism, withdrawal and nationalism. this is an option. but closing the door to the world will not stop the evolution of the world. it will not douse, but inflame, the fears of our citizens. and on free trade, support for multinational institutions, inequality, science, the iran nuclear deal,
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they were an atlantic ocean apart. then, the french president rounded on donald trump over climate change. forget "make america great again." it was time to make the earth a great again. by polluting the oceans, not mitigating co2 emissions, and destroying our biodiversity, we are killing our planet. let us face it. there is no planet b. this was an audacious speech. on the floor of congress, where the us president delivers the state of the union address, the keynote moment of the political year, a foreign visitor used his platform to lambast his host's policies — but with a smile and bonhomie. this is a hugely significant speech
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not just because this is a hugely significant speech notjust because the attack on donald trump's policies, but because it set up emmanuel macron as the man was an alternative vision to donald trump. and all the meanwhile maintaining that bonhomie with him. that is an impressive piece. you have been watching newsday. emmanuel macron has described his relationship with donald trump is excellent, despite what many have described as thinly veiled criticism of many of donald trump's policies. here is the united states not to abandon international engagement and warned that writing nationalism was threatening global prosperity. —— rising. there is more of that on our website and on the bbc news app. but
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for me, from london, that is goodbye. hello there. wednesday was a classic april day. sunny spells and heavy april day. sunny spells and heavy april showers. these cumulonimbus clouds developed through the day, bringing downpours, hail, and thunder. this project aims from sue in wakefield, showing the queue on the bus is decaying and the sunset. heading into the morning, winds from a north—west direction fairly brisk. but by the end of the night, thursday morning, there will be more western areas. southern and eastern england should be fairly dry. actually start to thursday, with temperatures into the low to mid single figures. it means that there isa single figures. it means that there is a start on a bright note. it
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could be chilly. lots of sunshine throughout the morning. showers from the get go will filter east. the difference or thursday is that there will be far fewer showers around wednesday. in many areas it will be largely dry, especially in the south and east, with temperatures getting to 15 or 16 celsius. but fresh further north, especially where the showers are. heading into friday, looking to the south—west to this area of low pressure, this will move into the south—west of the uk, bringing increasing amounts of rain through the day. some quite happy with strengthening winds. it will spread across much of england and wales, perhaps not be very far north of england. for scotland and northern ireland, another day of sunshine and showers. some could be heavy over the high ground. it could be cooler with temperatures of 8— 12 celsius. it looks miserable as he renders them. not much changing into the weekend. it looks that it will be unsettled because we have to hold
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onto low pressure. most will be across southern and eastern parts of the country. there will be sunny spells around as well and it is set to turn windy, especially in the south—east. this saturday's pitcher. not bad for many northern and western areas. not a bad day to me like you mentioned, with some cloud across the south—east. —— picture. temperatures again cool, 8— 12 celsius. on sunday, that low pressure could return to the south—east of the country, bringing some heavy and persistent rain and winds picking up, with gusts of 50 or 55 miles winds picking up, with gusts of 50 or55 miles an winds picking up, with gusts of 50 or 55 miles an hour. that a further north and west, with a greater chance of sunshine, but again it will feel cold. this is newsday from the bbc. i'm rico hizon in singapore. the headlines: emmanuel macron says he believes president trump will walk away from the iran nuclear deal
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following his three—day state visit to the us. counting down to the korean summit, but will the first talks in a decade see the north give up its nuclear weapons? i'm nuala mcgovern in london. also in the programme: watching the worst of the web so you don't have to. we meet facebook‘s content moderators. and we meet a singapore magician who performed in one of the most secretive countries in the world. livefrom our studios in singapore and london.
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