tv Outside Source BBC News May 28, 2018 9:00pm-10:01pm BST
hello, i'm karin g, this is outside source. is it on or off? officials from the us and north korea are thrashing out just how to get the summit that could make history back on track. the crucial question is, if singapore is to go ahead, what is kimjong—un prepared to put on the table now, that president trump can take from the summit back to the united states and declare a victory? more political drama in italy, as the president pulls the plug on a proposed populist government. now it's all but certain there will be new in months. the heart—stopping moment that's captured the world's attention. this man from mali's heroic actions in rescuing a toddler hanging from a balcony in paris earn him a fast track to french citizenship. and if you want to get in touch — the hashtag is bbc 0s. the saga of the donald trump and kimjong—un summit
and whether it will go ahead or not, goes on. president trump tweeted: the delegation mr trump mentions has been busy today at the north korean side of the demilitarised zone, discussing whether a deal can be done on denuclearisation. another us team has been sent to singapore for consultations with north koreans, largely on security measures and logistics. rupert wingfield hayes is along the de—militarized zone where discussions have been taking place. that white railway bridge there is the old railway from seoul to pyongyang. on the other side of the river is the demilitarised zone that divides south korea from north korea. right now, about two kilometres from where we're standing, senior officials from the united states
and north korea are sitting down to try and draw up the outline of an agreement that they can take from here to singapore next month, for president trump and kim jong—un to finalise and sign off on. this is significant that senior, experienced diplomats are sitting down together, to get the nuts and bolts of an agreement together. what would be the shape of that agreement? it appears that the united states is prepared to offer recognition of north korea, security guarantees for kim jong—un and his regime and economic assistance to north korea. but, in return, president trump wants kimjong—un to hand over all of his nuclear weapons. it has been very clear in the last week or so that kim jong—un is not prepared to do that, not in one go. so, the crucial question is, if singapore is to go ahead, what is kimjong—un prepared to put on the table now that president trump can take from the summit back to the united states and declare victory?
i asked our washington correspondent to what extent he thinks the talks might be getting back on track. i think it's a pretty positive sign that these talks have gone into their second day. that means, at least, that they are finding things to discuss, that they haven't had a complete lack of meeting of minds. so, that's a good sign in itself. it's probably also a good sign that the president, in the last 24 hours or so, has remained reasonably quiet about what's going on, in terms of the negotiations. and had been pretty positive, over the weekend, about his hopes for what could happen to north korea, in the long—run, in terms of development. that will all help the mood music. and the fact that they are doing some practical preparations in singapore itself, don't forget the us was particularly narked last week on the day where it called off the summit, it was narked at the fact that a bunch of senior
people from the white house had gone to singapore and waited for the north koreans to turn up and simply they didn't show. that's one of the things that really upset them. that seems to be happening. the signs are there, but there's a couple of weeks to go. we don't know exactly in substantive terms what north korea is prepared to put on the table and what the americans are prepared to accept. until we do that, we won't know whether a summit is worthwhile from both sides, and the risks that go with going to the summit. stay with us, we're going to look at these two people, the us delegate and north korea's vice foreign minister, they foreign minister, they are among the officials at the coal face of the negotiations in the de—militirised zone. what do we know about them? they are two very experienced diplomats, one from each side. sun kim is a former american ambassador to south korea. i think he is now the ambassador
to the philippines. but he's worked on north korea for a long time. he was born seoul originally, he grew up in the united states, went to university here and has been in that sort of asian political sphere, for a very long time. in terms of cho son hui, she's the deputy forign minister who insulted the vice president last week, something else that the white house didn't like very much, when she called him a dummy. she is, again, a very experienced long—term negotiator. we're told she speaks very good english, that she's worked and studied outside of north korea, is well—connected to the political elite in the country and is well respected. these are two very tough and senior negotiators. having said that, they will have to take what they've decided, what kind of understanding they've come to come to back to their respective capitals
before we are likely to see any final commitment to the summit going ahead. just when it looked like things might be settling down just a little in italian politics, there's been a fresh twist in the country's search for a new government. as it stands, this man, a 64—year—old economist named carlo cottarelli, is the latest person to be tasked with running the country as prime minister. here he is speaking today, and he emphasised italy's relationship with europe. translation: a dialogue with the eu to defend our interest is essential. we can do better. but it needs to be a constructive dialogue in the full awareness that, as a founding member of the eu, our role in the union remains essential, as well as our continued participation in the eurozone. and in the past hour or so, the german chancellor angela merkel has given her reaction. translation: we want to work
with every government, but, of course, we have principles within the eurozone. of course, there will be many difficult questions. mr cottarelli is the second prime minister designate to be named in the space of a week. this is how we got here: there's been political deadlock since elections in march when neither of the country's two big populist parties, the five star movement the five star movement and the league, won a majority. last week, they looked to have come to an agreement by nominating this man, a technocrat named giuseppe conte as prime minister. butjust as we were starting to learn about him, the agreement collapsed, due to a veto by the italian president, sergio matarella. why? because he didn't like conte's suggestion for finance minister, the anti—euro economist paolo savona, who once called the single currency "a german cage" and labelled italy's entry into the eurozone as "a historic mista ke". the leaders of the five star movement and the league are naturally furious about cottarelli's nomination.
here's five star's luigi di maio. translation: why no? tell us why no. the problem is that the ratings agencies in all of europe were worried about a man. a man that would become the finance minister. the investors in europe were worried. that's the point. so, let's say it in this country, let's say it, clearly. it's pointless going to vote, because the ratings agencies choose the government. and here's the man who was supposed to be italy's new minister of the interior, matteo salvini. translation: allow me to be enraged and disappointed for another 12 hours. since i've been studying dossiers at the ministry of the interior for the last 15 days. once the anger and the disappointment have passed, we will come back, determined, and we will take more votes than the last time. we will form a government
with the same personalities, who have just suffered a ridiculous veto in the last hours, provided that they are willing to. now, let me go back to my office. the bbc‘s sara monetta told me more. he will now form a cabinet. the president is likely to approve the cabinet and then he will have to go to parliament to get the confidence vote. it's likely he is not going to get it because, at the moment, only the democratic party has declared support to him. this means they don't have enough votes, therefore there will be elections after the summer, after august. so, probably in september, but this creates a bit of problem, because the whole month of august, usually the parliament is shut down for holidays. so, it will be an election immediately after the summer holidays and also the campaign will be affected. right, so those politicians are going to have to campaign during their holidays, if elections happen in september. tell us about mr cottarelli. he's got a few nicknames. mr scissors?
and mr spending review? this is a guy who is careful with money? yes. ariccolleta called him to be the director of the spending review commission in italy. he was the man whose job was to make sure that it... that italy cut in the right places, to try to reduce its huge debt, public debt. he is known as a man of austerity. he was also an officer of the international monetary fund. so, this is something that doesn't lay very well in the eyes of those who blame austerity and who blame cuts on public spending for the difficulties that common italian people are facing, day to day. there are calls by luigi di maio, the leader of the five star movement, for president sergio mattarella to be impeached, has anything like that ever happened before? no. and the impeachment is a very serious and long procedure.
it takes about 18 months, in italy, for a president to be impeached. according to article 90 of the constitution he can be impeached only for two things, high treason or violating the constitution. now, the five star is saying that sergio mattarella violated the constitution the moment in which he put the veto on the ministry of economy. but this thing has already happened before. like, presidents have said, "no, this man cannot be this kind of minister". and previous prime ministers have agreed. and they have changed the name. this is the first time that we have, instead, a prime minister designate that gives a no to the president and says, either that or nothing. so, if they want to go forward with the impeachment procedure, there needs to be a vote in parliament. both houses of parliament need to vote on it with a majority, which can happen if the league also agrees with the five star. but then it will be the constitutional court who decides. and that is where the impeachment procedure might actually fall apart. italians are facing elections,
all over again, pretty soon? yes, exactly. and with the same electoral law as the elections in march. this means it's likely again there won't be a clear winner. stay with us on outside source — still to come: a malli and immigrant who saved a french child hanging off a balcony. a man in his 80s has died after his car was submerged by major flash floods in walsall in the west midlands. it happened as more than a month's rainfall deluged parts of birmingham this weekend after widespread storms and rain. the met office issued yellow weather warnings of rain and storms for southern england and wales for today — although some areas of the country basked in warm sunshine and high temperatures. on the same street as today's fatality in walsall, another driver
was pulled to safety from his submerged car, hours earlier. his rescuer, ben lees, explained how he dived into six—foot—deep waters to reach the stranded man. i'd say there was probably about two inches of breathing space in the car, to the roof of the car. so, what did you do? i opened the back doors, because i thought there were kids in there and had a feel round both sides and i couldn't feel anything. he said, "it'sjust me, i'm in the front", but he couldn't get out. so, i opened the door, told him to take a breath and dragged him out. what was his reaction? i think he was more shocked, to be honest. because he didn't say much, but he did thank me. this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story is: delegations from the us and north korea are meeting along korea's demilitarized zone — trying to hammer out a framework that will make talks possible. other stories being reported around the bbc right now: russian billionaire and owner
of chelsea football club, roman abramovich, has flown to israel after being found eligible for citizenship. the move comes after he was unable to extend his british visa amid a diplomatic spat between london and moscow. mr abramovich would become israel's richest citizen. an actor has impersonated mao zedong as a publicity stunt at a conference about blockchain technology in china. it's sparked uproar on social media. mao zedong is venerated by many in the country as the founder of modern china. the event's organisers have apologised. and chris anderson has broken the all—time record for the most cheeses won in gloucestershire's death—defying races. he now has 22. participants chase three kilograms cheeses down cooper's hill. mr anderson has suffered a broken ankle, concussion and bruised kidneys over the 14 years he has competed. it's nice to bring you a story
that has a happy ending. this video has gone completely viral. a child hanging from a fourth—floor balcony in paris. mamoudou gassama climbs up to save the boy. a neighbour comes out and holds on to the child from the ledge next door — as mr gassama reaches the boy and pulls him to safety. this video was posted on facebook has had more than ten million views. here's his brother describing what happened: translation: he moved immediately to save the child. i asked him, wasn't invited for his own life? he said, no, that moment he was thinking of himself, he was thinking of the child.
as soon as he started to climb, he was scared that the child would get tired and let go. luckily, it was a child who was not afraid and everything worked out well. the reaction has been incredible. he has now been personally congratulated by president emmanuel macron and awarded a bravery medal. mr gassama is an immigrant from mali. mr macron says he will be made a french citizen. and it looks like mr gassama has even been offered a job. the paris fire brigade tweeted: mamoudou shares the values of the paris fire brigade. we are ready to welcome him. here's hugh schofield. having created this sensation, he is now, i'm afraid, bathed in the glow of media attention. on the networks here, he's been followed around by cameramen, camera people, motorbikes and interviews after interviews. it'll die down. but, you know, what's come out of it is that there's been an extraordinary act of bravery.
and, as a result, this man, who was one of the many who came across in that very arduous journey from libya on the boats, to italy, and came, not technically illegally to france, but, certainly, in an irregular situation, he will see his life changed, dramatically. he will now get french citizenship and a job. the bbc‘s west africa correspondent alex duval smith has written this article on the malian travelling tradition. mr gassama is part of the soninke ethnic group. for soninkes, travelling has for centuries been an obligatory rite of passage to manhood. the reaction to this story is interesting. take a look at this: the story has warmed hearts perhaps in part because it's briefly changed the narrative about immigration at a time when it is often described as a threat. here's journalist anne—elisabet moutet. you've got politicians, left and right, saying, this is somebody who has shown he would be a good element to the community and we welcome him to france.
you really have to go to the far reaches of the national front not to find that kind of remark. he arrived from mali about six months ago. he was undocumented in france, but what we do know, also, is that his family, or at least his brother, lived in france, are documented. very obviously have well integrated. if you listen to his brother, who was helping him speak on television, he very moved. his french is not as good as his brother's, but his brother speaks perfect french. he is well spoken, he's well—dressed, this is somebody who is obviously part of the national community. this is not somebody who set himself apart. police in kenya have arrested the chief of a government youth agency as part of an investigation into the theft of $78—million. into the theft of $78 million. kenya's national youth service trains young people in life and business skills. but now it's director general, richard ndubai plus a0 civil servants and 14 private sector officials have been charged with offences like stealing public funds and forgery. they're being questioned in the kenyan capital, nairobi, from where merchuma reports.
national youth service director general, richard ndubai, and 16 others are being held here at the directorate of criminal investigations headquarters' in nairobi. earlier on, we saw a number of cars ferrying some of the suspects coming in. they are being interrogated. thereafter, they will be taken to court, but it is not clear when this will happen. now, these are some of the suspects in a $90 million scam that is the latest to hit the youth service. this is money that was allegedly siphoned off in three years in what has been described as a well—orchestrated scheme between top government officials and suppliers. it is an issue that has generated a lot of debate in kenya, both in local media and social media. kenyans say they are not just comfortable with the arrests being made, but they want to see people being prosecuted
and possibly jailed. there is a protest and demonstration that has been scheduled for thursday this week. this is the second scam to hit the youth service in under three years. for the president's efforts to fight corruption. two days ago, he issued an order for the immediate investigation and prosecution of all those involved in this scandal and others in different agencies in kenya. a nationwide lorry drivers‘ strike is still ongoing in brazil, despite a generous offer by the president to cut fuel prices. the strikes have paralysed many of the country's main road networks. daniel gallas is following developments, he's in sao paulo for us. is there any sign of this strike ending any time soon? the government made a huge offer to truck drivers
pretty much granting everything they wanted, but, still, the strike isn't over. union leaders are saying that the strikes are actually... the demands are being mad but a lot of the drivers themselves out there are not responding to the strikes —— demands are being met. to their union leaders. we are not clear whether the strike is over. just how disruptive is this strike and does it look like this might go on much longer? will things normalise any time soon? it will take quite some time soon? it will take quite some time to normalise, even if the strike is over by today. because a lot of the goods that are needed in cities like fuel, basic food, everything is still stuck on the roads with lorries. it would take a few days to get them to the big cities, the destructions are very big at the moment. but there is the question about, has the government really controlled the strikes? are people really going to stop with these strikes? that question isn't clear. you can see
these strikes? that question isn't clear. you can see a these strikes? that question isn't clear. you can see a bit of panic in brazil with people queueing up outside petrol stations that have no few will. so they will be the first ones to get fuel once it arrives. —— because there is no gasoline. people can't predict what will happen. thank you. south korean prosecutors have searched samsung securities' head office as part of their investigation into the brokerage's recent fat finger error. our asia business correspondent karishma vaswani explains what happened. it's basically a really clumsy, but expensive mistake. now, just to explain what a fat finger trade is, it's what happens when you are putting in a financial order, but you make a mistake. and that ends up resulting in a bigger—than—intended size of the transaction that you had originally wanted. that's basically what happened at samsung securities. because, of course, the company was trying to give its employees a certain amount of shares. but they accidentally issued 2.8 billion shares to employees. that's more than 30 times the number of shares they actually wanted to give their employees.
worth something like $100 billion. so, a pretty expensive mistake for them. it was meant to become australia's largest coal mine, a site three times the size of paris, but the controversial project by indian company adani is in doubt, after it was denied a state loan in december. vineet khare has this report. it's a 400 kilometre drive to the heart of a controversy. as we near the proposed mine site, a vehicle appeared on the trail. we asked why we were being followed, but the driver would not give us an answer. adani plans to dig out coal from here and transport it to a port 400 kilometres away, via a railway line it is also proposing to build. these plans have triggered multiple
protests, which went on for several months. this camp is, i suppose, the front line of the campaign to stop adani. it's basically here as a place to gather and organise and do direct action against the project, so that's why we're here, to keep that coal in the ground. the protests resulted in the queensland state denying a loan, halting adani's investment plans, but the federal government is backing the project. the environmental movement across the world are trying to use their heft to stop this project, because they see it as a big risk to their objectives and their goals. i say, let'sjust let the economics take precedence. i'm happy with adani's record and other companies' records, to welcome them in this country, and the benefits
to both our nations. but many people are worried, as they are seeing coal surfacing on their beaches. in central queensland, we have a very unique item, we have the great barrier reef off the coast, which helps to form bathtub. what you throw into the ocean lagoon, not the sea, stays there. if a coal port spills coal, it stays there. until adani learns its fate about its australian investment, the company may need to line up alternative resources elsewhere. more from that and all of our stories on the bbc news website. that and more shortly. it's not unheard of that it is
pretty unusual to be talking about storms as early as late may in north america but that is what we have at the moment with storm alberta that formed across the gulf of mexico pushing its way across the florida panhandle as we speak. it will bring with it some very heavy rain, torrential downpours, hail, thunder and even the potentialfor some traumatic activity. one to keep a close eye on. it continues to drift steadily northwards into tuesday across atlanta, georgia and eventually pushing its way into tennessee. elsewhere, head of it across washington and new york state, cloudy but dry. some sharp showers in the northern plains, warm and sultry to the south in texas with temperatures into the mid to high 30s. the west coast is quite quiet but a northerly breeze, temperatures a bit disappointing. mid to high teens in san francisco, maybe a maximum ofjust 20 degrees in los angeles, dry but still only
around 68—70 fahrenheit. south asia, the monsoon rains at the moment are slightly delayed, just to the south of sri lanka, pushing up heavy rain through the bay of bengal up towards west thailand and myanmar over the next few days. elsewhere, it is a feature particularly in the north—west where the high 30s, 40s are still likely over the next couple of days. asia, we will see sam showering rain injapan, quite quiet across the korean peninsular in northern china. drs some showery rain. -- in northern china. drs some showery rain. —— some showery rain. vibrant colours are intense showers. monsoon rain into myanmarand colours are intense showers. monsoon rain into myanmar and malaysian and indonesian they will have afternoon showers. staying with the theme of those showers, we will continue to see some in singapore and bangkok over the next few days. hong kong looks likely to dry up with temperatures into the mid—30s. quite
stormy into europe, particularly northern spain, france, with some of that heat stretching through the north of france into the uk. further thunderstorms are likely over the next couple of days, some heavy and quite intense. the best of the dry weather through the southern and eastern part of the mediterranean. here it is settled and sunny. quite humid feeling across paris, high 20s look likely which could spark off some dramatic thundery downpours. for the next few days, we should see showers coming to an end and in the east it is fine and dry but not as warm. athens has the best sunshine. the uk will stay sunny but we keep the risk of those thundery downpours and it will be humid. take care. hello, i'm karin giannone, this is outside source, and these are the main stories here in the bbc newsroom. is it on or off? officials from the us and north korea are thrashing out just how to get the summit that could make history — back on track.
the crucial question is, if singapore is to go ahead, what is kimjong—un prepared to put on the table now that president trump can take from a summit back to the united states and declare a victory? more political drama in italy — as the president pulls the plug on a proposed populist government — now it's all but certain there'll be new elections in months. the heart—stopping moment that's captured the world's attention. this man from mali's heroic actions in rescuing a toddler hanging from a balcony in paris earn him a fast track to french citizenship. the korean wave hits the states. bts is the first k—pop band to reach number one on the us album charts. every day, outside source features bbc journalists working in over 30 languages. your questions are always welcome. #bbcos is the hashtag. syria has become president
of the conference on disarmament in geneva — something that's raising a lot of eyebrows — and a lot of concerns. the role rotates through the alphabet and only lasts a month — but syria's turn comes weeks after the most recent chemical attack there, blamed on the regime. british diplomats say that "the uk deplores the fact that syria will assume the presidency of the conference on disarmament, given the regime's consistent and flagrant disregard of international non—proliferation and disarmament norms and agreements." meanwhile, america has asked russia, syria's ally, to intervene. robert wood, washington's ambassador in geneva, has called the start of syria's tenure "the darkest day in the history of the conference", adding that "the damascus
regime has neither the credibility nor moral authority to preside over the cd." here's imogen foulkes. a country that allegedly used chemical agents against civilians douma, just last month at the start of april is taking up a four weak presidency of the world's leading disarmament body. let's not forget that the body out of which came the total ban on chemical weapons. but this being multilateralism, it can be very procedural and ceremonial. the system for a rotating presidency was approved by member states years ago, during the cold war. they said we want it to be fair, we don't want the superpowers wrangling for the chairmanship of the whole time so we're going to do it alphabetically. switzerland had the last four weeks and syria comes next, it has the next four weeks. the south korean boy band bts have become the first k—pop artists to reach number one on the us album charts. pop music
their album, "love yourself: tear", topped the billboard 200 music charts on sunday, making it the first primarily foreign—language number one album in over 12 years. and of course the first korean pop record to top the charts ever. the young superstars are known for their meticulously choreographed dance style and their blend of pop, r'n‘b and hip hop. the seven—member group is one of the country's best selling musical exports. and despite not singing in english, they've already sold out shows in los angeles, chicago and new york. and last week they dazzled the billboard music awards in las vegas. they've also developed a fiercely devoted fan base, who call themselves "the army". here's a tweet from someone called bts army. "we did it guys, this
is the only album i've been listening on spotify these days so i'm so happy our hard work paid off." here's another from someone calling themselves glitteij. "oh wow congrats!! even the president of south korea, moonjae—in @moonriver365 got in on the act tweet saying. "congratulations to the 7 music—loving boys and their wings, the army! the songs, dance, dreams and enthusiasm of bts energized and gave strength to young people around the world". the success of bts is seen as part of the so—called korean wave, the global rise of korean music, drama and film. and according to this article on the yonhap news agency, the korean government is even setting up special vocal and dance classes called k—pop academies in 25 countries around the world. let's
talk a bit more about bts and this phenomenon with professor michelle cho from the department of east asia studies at mcgill university in montreal, canada. what do you make of this latest of element, coming top of the album charts in the us, no less —— latest development. it's great, it means a lot to have a south korean artist speaking mainly in korean. i think it isa speaking mainly in korean. i think it is a broadening of audience tastes. i don't know that bts are so singular, even though they are enjoying unprecedented success as south korean artist. they follow in the footsteps of spanish—language p0p: the footsteps of spanish—language pop, which has become very popular in the us as well. give us a sense of how far k—pop goes beyond south
korean borders and for how long this has been happening. k-pop is certainly a global phenomenon and has been expanding in its popularity for the last 20 years. really it's been since around 2012, i don't know if you can render the gangnam style, the internet in particular has been an important element of the dissemination of k—pop. i think that the musical style of k—pop has been very popular in east and southeast asia for several years. but entry into north america and europe in particular are reallyjust into north america and europe in particular are really just this decade, i'd say. we're doing a lot of talking about the korean villain sheila in political terms on the news. does this global focus do
anything for the popularity of its culture ? anything for the popularity of its culture? —— about the korean peninsular. i find that the discussions about the political situation and the popularity of k—pop... it situation and the popularity of k—pop. .. it is situation and the popularity of k—pop... it is ironic that they are going on at the same time. don't think that younger listeners of k—pop are necessarily interested because of the political situation 01’ because of the political situation or that they register these ironies. i would venture to say that it is a subliminal effect of having career in the news all the time, the idea that a small pin and sheila with a small population can having a —— a small population can having a —— a small peninsular with a small population can have an impact. small peninsular with a small population can have an impactlj wonder what is contributing to the particular success of this group, bts, all seven of them?” particular success of this group, bts, all seven of them? i think that the discussion has centred on the
group's use of social media because they distin which themselves amongst their peers for their early adoption of platforms like twitter —— they distinguish themselves. they are engaging with their fans. you can't talk about bts without talking about the bts army and the group themselves are concerned the referring to their fans as a component of what they do. i think it may seem disingenuous for such global superstar musicians to because the meat pointing towards the fans —— to be constantly pointing towards the fans but i think they are quite sincere. they seem so. think they are quite sincere. they seem so. thank you forjoining us. an update about the us president
donald trump and the japanese by minister. they discussed north korea by phone and confirmed they would meet before the us north korea summit. trump and abe "affirmed the shared imperative of achieving the complete and permanent dismantlement of north korea's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and ballistic missile programs." on tuesday, the republic of ireland's government will introduce legislation legalising abortion. that's just a few days after the historic vote that saw a landslide decision to liberalise it's strict abortion laws.
here's the final results — 66% voted in favour of legalising abortion. that included these two — the two leaders of the republican sinn fein political party — and as you can see they're holding a sign saying the "north is next". that's because the spotlight has now shifted to northern ireland — which is part of the uk — and where abortion is still banned except in very specific circumstances. the bbc‘s nuala mcgovern has been covering this story from dublin. let me turn to two women that have been campaigning on the no and yes sides. on the no side, we have maeve o'hanlon. welcome to the programme. thanks, nuala. and also we have anna cosgrave, who, as you can tell, her sweatshirt, has been trying to repeal the eighth, and now a victory for her side on saturday. you're also very welcome. thanks for having me. let me begin with northern ireland, people are expecting all the pressure to begin to move north. is that something you are thinking about, maeve, as they begin to introduce legislation in the south? i think what is the reality and will become a reality soon is that in the north of ireland,
unborn babies' lives will be protected and in the south of ireland it will quickly become legal to intentionally end the life of an unborn child. and that, i think, is a really sad day for all of ireland. what i think as well, we've heard so many personal stories in this campaign, but, today, i'm thinking of stories i've heard that a lot of people haven't heard. friends of mine who had abortions and ten, 20 years later deeply regret, deeply hurt by it, and i have friends whose babies are alive today because of the eighth amendment. what about you, anna? what are your fellow campaigners saying about north of the border? you know, women from the north came down and they marched in dublin to support us, throughout this whole campaign. it was a massive affiliation and alliance. our compassion extends across the boarder and we know what it feels like to have your rights compromised. as i said, london irish, you know, they're up there and we'll be going up on buses, in a week or so. the freedoms that we have finally been afforded are ones that we also want to give to our fellow sisters.
the compassion still stands and it's just such an historic time in ireland. i don't think... we've been talking, but when you talked about stories and regret, on my last canvas, outside the train station, a young woman kind of, stood as there was yes and no campaigners, some of them shouting. and she handed me a note, saying that she'd lived with so much stigma and so much shame and that, you know, this is before the vote, and i'm imagining hertoday. we can't base public policy on people's regret. we try to give people the best practical, safest, appropriate health care. but it won't be simple for northern ireland to take up the same abortion changes, even if it wants to, because northern ireland's government collapsed and has been suspended for the past 18 months, leaving the uk in caretaker mode. so now, it's the british prime minister, theresa may, who is under pressure to consider reviewing the legislation from westminster.
but that won't be simple, either. our correspondent ben wrightjoins me. why will theresa may the relu cta nt to me. why will theresa may the reluctant to get involved in the situation in northern ireland? any timea situation in northern ireland? any time a westminster government would be involved in getting —— would be wa ry be involved in getting —— would be wary about getting involved in as contentious a question as abortion in northern ireland. for decades it has had the most tough anti—abortion laws in all of europe. it is a devolved issue, it is the legislative prerogative of the northern ireland assembly. any prime minister, even if they had a massive majority in the commons would be relu cta nt majority in the commons would be reluctant about wading into that politically. it is different now, as you said, because this is a minority government, entirely reliant on the democratic unionist party. the dup
are very pro—life, pro the abortion rules that exist in ireland, and they know in question —— they've no interest in revisiting this question which is why it any idea that westminster may legislate has been crossed. so, the support of the dup for the conservatives. . .. the government's entire agenda from brexit to schools depends on those ten d upm piece —— dvds mps —— d u p mps. i ten d upm piece —— dvds mps —— d u p mp5. i don't think there's any chance she will say anything to provoke them, that might encourage them to be more sparing with that support. it is a big reason why i don't think she'll go close to it. do we get a sense of how theresa may will navigate her way out? it will
be tricky because she's under political pressure in westminster to do something in response to the vote in ireland. the labour party have said they are looking at legislative options to explore, perhaps amending the domestic abuse bill that will beat going to mps in the next few months. perhaps a motion saying there should be a referendum in northern ireland on this issue. there's a lot of feeling amongst conservative mps as well as labour that something should be done. the question is what, custard usually. for theresa may, she's not going to go there —— the question is what, constitutionally. the ms—13 street gang is the biggest and most violent in central america. it actually began in los angeles, but has its roots in el salvador, where there are now tens of thousands of members. but international audiences might not have heard of them until last year, when president trump and his administration began
repeatedly mentioning the gang when talking about illegal immigrants. look at this, for example, a white house press release from last week, telling americans what they need to know about the "violent animals" of ms—13. this is from february: "ms—13 gang members are being removed by our great ice and border patrol agents by the thousands, but these killers come back in from el salvador, and through mexico, like water... we need the wall!" critics say he is conflating all immigrants with the gang. will grant has been to san salvador to find out more about the gang. his piece starts with strobing video. william arias wasn't always a man of god. better known by his alias, smurf, he led a local faction of el salvador‘s notorious gang, the ms13. the gang controls this community and tired of the killings
and murders, he left in search of redemption. he became an evangelical pastor, but still bears the marks of his violent past. the gang's initials blazoned across his forehead. translation: there are only three paths in the gang, that's why members sometimes get tattoos of three dots. people think they stand for sex, drugs and rock and roll, the crazy life of a gang, but, in fact, they stand for prison, hospital or death. given society's hatred of the gangs, opportunities are scarce for former gang members or active ones, trying to turn their lives around. that's why the factory floor at league is unusual, the company employs a cross—section of el salvador‘s marginalised, including former gang members, to produce branded clothing for us colleges and campuses. my findings is that 95% of the gang
members want to get out of the gang, but you have to give them a solution with dignity. you have to give them a road that they can also be successful. butjust saying, "well, we'll just give them a job" isn't good enough. a lot of them are not educated. they are animals. president trump has linked ms13 to immigration and cited gang crime as a reason to build a wall with mexico. the salvadoran government says the link between immigrants and gangs is tenuous, at best. translation: we have received some deportees with gang affiliations, but it isn't a significant percentage of the total of returnees. pastor arias uses his violent history in his sermons to urge his congregation to stay on the straight and narrow. but gangs remain attractive to the disaffected youths who have little to hope for in these poor neighbourhoods. for the trump administration, the main response has simply been to make it harderfor them to travel north. will grant, bbc news, san salvador.
one of kenya's minority communities — the ogiek — is marking a year since the african court ofjustice ruled in their favour. ajig for victory. these are the ogiek people, the last of forest dwelling communities living in kenya. on this day last year, the african court of human rights recognised their right to live in forests, a landmark win that inspired many indigenous communities across africa and the world. it is notjust the ogiek community who was liberated, are recognition. but amid the celebrations is a cloud of uncertainty.
a government task force was formed last year to review the judgment and make recommendations in six months. but the ogiek feel they weren't involved enough in the deliberations, whose results are due. so far, they have not done anything. they are a 17 member task force. we don't know what next. we expect to have, and maybe talked to these people, get views from the community and maybe visit all the areas where the tenth ogiek. the ogiek people originally lived in forests, especially the extensive forest. many still do. they are traditionally hunters and gatherers and famous beekeepers. but over the years, the human encroachment and destruction of trees now threatens the future of kenya's main water catchment area. ina bid in a bid to save the forests the kennett government has routinely carried out forceful evictions in which even the native ogiek haven't been spared. after the ogiek court
case, a group was formed to make solutions. so many groups have moved in now, certain parts of the forest have been denuded. the government has many interests to balance. you cannot just look at a has many interests to balance. you cannotjust look at a community without placing it in the totality of context. it is a delicate balancing act but observers feel it can be achieved without kicking out indigenous communities. indigenous people, when allowed, performed better than anybody else. in countries have done that. the ogiek people want their land back. winning the court case was a step forward but a lasting solution may still be a long way off. the football world cup kicks
off in russia injust over two weeks' time — but here in london, what's known as the stateless world cup will start on thursday. it's organised by the confederation of independent football associations, or conifa — an organisation for states, minorities, stateless peoples and regions which want to play football but which are not affiliated with fifa. as you can see, teams come from all over the world. these are the current rankings on the conifa website — northern cyprus, a de facto state recognised only by turkey, is in third place. padania is second — that's the name northern separatists in italy give to the country they aspire to create. panjab, a geographical region across northern india and eastern pakistan, are first. preparing for the biggest footballing event of their lives at one of the best training grounds in the country. for the twins it is very different from their dayjobs back in sunderland, where they run a sports coaching
business in schools. we obviously play together, since we were kids. we've both been selected for the punjab. the conifa world cup takes place every two years and this year it's happening in the uk, with players from around the globe competing against each other to be crowned stateless world champions and for many of them, the tournament is more than just about football. the punjab fa team represents an area covering parts of india and pakistan. most of its players were born and raised in the uk. they say that football connects them to their roots and the millions of punjabis living in the diaspora. the punjabi community isn'tjust... it is millions of people around the world and we represent those in europe, the uk, america. that badge on your chest, quite proud. punjab fa is part of conifa, which represents de facto states as well as linguistic and cultural regions not covered by fifa. the group says it's getting more
popular with yorkshire recently joining the likes of tibet, the isle of man and western armenia. there should be more flexibility in who your allowed to play for. we always say that fifa tells you your identity and we ask you your identity. time for a pep talk off the pitch from the manager, ribbon. he's one of the few non—pin djabi —— non—punjab people on the team. of the few non—pin djabi —— non—punjab people on the teamlj wa nt non—punjab people on the teamlj want them to win just as much as they want to win. in 2016 they came close to winning the tournament, losing on penalties in the final. this time they want to go a step further and get global recognition for the team and punjab culture. thanks for watching. i'll be back at the same time tomorrow. following from the severe
thunderstorms that brought flash budding to parts of birmingham on sunday, monday was a much quieter day. low cloud burning back to the coast. warm spells of sunshine for most, temperatures reaching 26 across parts of south—east england, east anglia and the highlands. around the north sea coasts where the low cloud lingered, temperatures back at 14 degrees. rather grey and gloomy skies. there were some thundery showers but not that many. that was one of the thunderstorms across parts of sussex. the forecast for the next few days, a threat of further storms from time to time, initially across southern counties of england. overnight, low cloud
from the north sea reaching wales and is in scotland. some fog patches around north sea coasts but a mild night for most of us and quite muddy across the south. tuesday morning, some thunderstorms coming across southern counties of england but there is uncertainty how far north they will go. they may stay in the channel. we will go for one or two. they may become torrential if they get going, bringing 35mm is of rain in one hour. if you're really lucky it may be one month of rain and flash flooding. the most dry weather with sunshine. cool about the north sea coasts with cloud lingering but inland again temperatures should go to the mid—20s. any showers we have should then slowly ease down overnight but that takes us into
wednesday. pressure falling and that means a greater chance of seeing thunderstorms breaking out. in england and wales a greater risk of torrential downpours on wednesday, bringing risk of some localised flash flooding. further north, low pressure keeping the showers away across scotland and northern ireland. the best sunshine, feeling pretty warm with temperatures into the mid—20s. the weather pattern, high—pressure across the north of the uk, low pressure over continental europe. feeding in the risk of thundery downpours across the south. the weather pattern is very stable, it isn't going to change soon. further storms coming on thursday, maybe becoming widespread across england and wales but for the north is where the weather will be. on friday, pressure will be lower in across the north of the uk. it encourages the showers to break out further north. northern england, northern ireland and
scotla nd england, northern ireland and scotland may have a concentration of showers to the end of the week but further south, warm sunshine. after the weekend, dry, sunny and warm, temperatures in the low to mid 20. a threat of storms at times in the south. into next week, the weather pattern keeps this split in the jet stream, some going to iberia, some going to the uk. in between we get the high—pressure across the north of the uk and low pressure further south. a stable pattern that is likely to stay for a long time, meaning a risk of further showers, especially in the south. this is bbc news. i'm lukwesa burak. the headlines at 10pm. a major clean—up operation is taking place in the west midlands after heavy rain and flash flooding. to see my neighbours going through this, again, it's awful. everything out on the street. many of them have only just moved back in from the flood, two years ago. i don't know how they're going to cope. a man in his 80s died,
after his car was submerged by flood water in walsall. and another driver was rescued earlierfrom his car on the same stretch of road, by this man. he couldn't get out, so i opened the door, told him to take a breath and dragged him out. a new interim prime minister for italy, as the country tries to pull itself out of its deep political crisis. fresh protests in northern ireland to relax the country's strict abortion laws, as labour increases the pressure on theresa may.