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questioned the future of the 69—year—old military alliance. tomorrow looks set to be a big day in politics with brexit talks and that crucial meeting, two in the morning i think it is our time. nine in the morning singapore time between mr trump and mr kim. we will talk about that later on, but first we will start with brexit, the sun. polly. great britain. i love this. our great betrayal as they vote on brexit, we say to them you have a choice. great britain or great betrayal. as we know tomorrow and wednesday are going to be filled with votes on the lords amendments to the brexit bill and so it is crunch time for the government and brexit and the sun has put together this fantastic montage of everything great and good about britain, from football, to stonehenge, via the spitfire and welsh looking sheep. you know, it is fantastic i think to see all of those wonderful things
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about britain celebrated. personally i think none of this would be taken away if we stayed in the european union, nevertheless it is a lovely set of picture... . yes, i mean, digbyjones, is this going to be a great betrayal? we have to be beware of the tyranny of parliament, and if you look at the sun and the daily express which you showed up, ignore the will of the people at your peril. this isn't pitched at the establishment elite south of the m25. this is pitched at the readerships of the newspaper, north britain, north england i should say, and some of the midlands. you have 650 people, plus 810 or something unelected people in the lords, who are unrepresentative of the 17.4 million people who voted to come out. if all of this parliamentary shenaniganses to indulge their own personal wish, which is under 2,000 people on 17.4 million, if it ends up people on 17.4 million, if it ends up with something which is, well we
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are coming out because we respect the wishes of the people but we have free movement of labour, submission to the european court ofjustice and you take it from unelected people, i don't call that coming out. what these are trying to do, in a very shall we say ungracious and course way, is try to get that message across, at the end of the express it says today the time has come for our elected representative for which i would say 810 unelected people, to decide are you or are you not the servants of people? all i would say to my house in the lords, who should never overrule the democratic elected people in the commons an to the commons i would say, beware the tyranny of parliament. all right. let us go to the daily express, ignore the will of the people at your peril. similar sort of headline i suppose, really. to the sun. for me, this onejust i suppose, really. to the sun. for me, this one just goes, i suppose, really. to the sun. for me, this onejust goes, across i suppose, really. to the sun. for me, this one just goes, across a line. because there is a sense of menace in this one which i don't think is there in the sun. the sun
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is putting its cards on the table. the express is issuing a threat. the people in parliament, mps and peers are acting in what they believe is the best interests of the country, andi the best interests of the country, and i think there has developed a culture, a kind of age of outrage where everybody wants to just throw bombs at everybody else, accuse everybody else of betrayal. we had the question of saboteurs from the daily mail. everybody is trying to find a solution that is best for britain. there is a solution, in my view, that sits bringing together the interests, not ofjust the people who voted to leave but of the 60 or 70% of the country who would like us to go forward in a way that brings us as close as possible to europe while respecting the will of the people. they have sulked ever ince. hang on, polly we should respond to that. that is a charge thatis
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respond to that. that is a charge that is often made, isn't it, to the remoaners. absolutely. iwould that is often made, isn't it, to the remoaners. absolutely. i would have loved it if the remain side had won, we didn't win, but that doesn't mean that you have to have a winner takes all, 52% get to trounce everybody else. theresa may should right from the start have built a coalition of people who had a moderate position across the centre ground and she could have brought the country together instead of reinforcing a set of divides which lead to newspapers issuing threats and there are newspapers who have threatened not just the elected are newspapers who have threatened notjust the elected representatives but ourjudge, and the very tenets of democracy and frankly brexit in order to tear down democracy in... if anybody is going to tear down democracy it is 650 people who will override the wishes of 17.44 million people. the threat, i agree with you on what she should have done, but she had labour and liberals playing
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party politics, once that happened with party politicising a national issue. she had a majority she decided to throw away during an election. we are in violent agreement about that. what i am saying. violent agreement! peaceful. it descended into tribal politics which is not what you want to be. cani which is not what you want to be. can i talk about the threat. which is not what you want to be. can i talk about the threatlj wouldn't use those words, i think it is silly, threatening, like the mail with enemieses of the state for judges and the one thing i know about thejudges judges and the one thing i know about the judges i judges and the one thing i know about thejudges i might judges and the one thing i know about the judges i might sometimes think they are buffoons but they are straight. i was going to say the point about the peril is they talk in this article, it is the peril of the ballot box, they are saying the peril is if you ignore this they will punish you at the ballot box. 0nly will punish you at the ballot box. only if you get to paragraph nine. it is not a violent thing. in general elections the eu is featured about numberten so
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general elections the eu is featured about number ten so it has never been something in elections. talking about firing line. nato, the i. nato in line of fire as global trade war escalates. lord jones, fears for future of military alliance. i don't want to let the facts get in the way of a good story. at the end of the day, there are three countrieses in nato, who pay the 2% of gdp they are requireded who are in europe. america does far more, but, britain is one of them. now, germany is the most rich country in the whole of europe, european union is made for germany, germany benefits from it more than anybody else. it doesn't pay half of what it should. when people say we don't germany being military, fine, just write the cheque. japan pays its way. what they are saying trump saidi its way. what they are saying trump said i am thinking of pulling out of this and protecting europe. he is
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the guarantor of europe, if you don't pay your way, because it hurts germany, suddenly it... it is argued they pay for peacekeeping operation, thatis they pay for peacekeeping operation, that is one of the biggest bugbears the germans have. as the canadians have, over trade with their spat with mr trump. clive i have said don't let the facts if in the way of a good tory. the germans argument their crib hundredion is in peacekeeping, that is their argument and that needs to be factored in but... i don't agree with you. that is what the germans would argue. polly. nato in line of fire as global trade war escalate. why would nato backbench involved ? global trade war escalate. why would nato backbench involved? we are coming to the end of an era of where america acted as the words policeman and helped to establish a set of rules of the game really, because of donald trump and also putin who want to go back to a 19th century strong nations thatjust
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fight each other instead of abiding bya fight each other instead of abiding by a set of rule, it is at risk of being dismantled. we have the trade warand trump who being dismantled. we have the trade war and trump who doesn't like any of these guy, he doesn't like trudeau, he doesn't like merkel or theresa may's school ma'amish approach. he is looking for anything he can stoke up his base and tear down alliances which have held the peace across the west for generation, it is very alarming. peace across the west for generation, it is very alarmingm is, an also it is class icardi vied and rule. he will pick out his winners and friend and make peace with one of them. i was in the lords this afternoon and i was so exercised i got up and spoke about something. there am i hearing labour and liberal peers saying theresa may has done this badly because she wasn't mentioned as a favourite one and secondly, you should know who your friends are, they are innup,
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they are not trump and you have the not played it well with trump. these we re not played it well with trump. these were the same people who were saying you must not on any account invite this man to this country. don't invite him. now what hypocrisy to say well, isn't it a shame the man you said you are not welcome, treats you said you are not welcome, treats you like you have said you are welcome, that is the government's fault for some reason, that has happened in the commons. a set of people who would be welcome to have here are more doctors of. more that 2300 doctors refused viceias this year, this is a shortage of doctors isn't there. medical staff across the board? there is a growing problem of doctor, and it is all related to our kind of self defeating immigration policies, because theresa may has been so obsessed since he became the home secretary in 2010 with trying to meet this ludicrous pledge david cameron had of getting immigrations
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down to the tens of thousands, they are now turning away doctors we need in the nhs, and frankly, they should just tearaway these rule, it looks like there is a report in the guardiani like there is a report in the guardian i think that suggests that she is willing to look at that, and philip hammond is going to put extra tax in, so hopefully these are temporary problems. there speaks somebody who doesn't understand north of milton keynes, there is a real problem with immigration. there is the city the size of newcastle coming into this country every year, and you can't just coming into this country every year, and you can'tjust go on saying, that's fine. because there is an enormous economic problem, in trying to build a infrastructure of hospitals and schools and railways and roads to cope with it. it is right we need a different policy. and roads to cope with it. it is right we need a different policym is all right saying, but the problem is all right saying, but the problem is and this is poor reporting by the ft. is and this is poor reporting by the ft, it is unusual for them, is and this is poor reporting by the ft, it is unusualforthem, is is and this is poor reporting by the ft, it is unusual for them, is that these 2300 doctors are not coming
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from the eu, this is not an eu issue, this isn't a brexit issue and i know the ft have done it in this way because they want to feed into an anti—brexit narrative. they do it every day. the point... how can they win? of course they can't win. if you look... i was going to say the point is, pmq who are being turned away who we need, you are right, we badly need them are coming from non—eu countries, we should be accepting then. what is happening we are having to accept unskilled romanians and bulgarian we should be accepting skilled asian, i have never known a strawberry picker do heart surgery. listen, kim jong un, heart surgery. listen, kim jong un, he isa heart surgery. listen, kim jong un, he is a rock star now. he is a superstar. he has taken his first
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selfie. we think it is. the hermit kingdom isn't called that for no good reason. we don't know what goes on behind closes doors but if singapore he is posing for his first selfie there and he has got a lot out of this and the summit hasn't started. yes, it is interesting, isn't it. dictators are an interesting breed. i don't know any of them personally but what are his motivations for getting involved. is he after economic growth, is he really pursuing a disarmament strategy, is he frightened of trump. he is getting a huge number of publicity wins he can sell back home, that we should be a bit cautious about, although if this can lead to demilitarisation that would be fantastic. dictators don't leave their countries very often. this man will be in a place he has never been. he is a human being, he will
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been. he is a human being, he will be interested. he is a tourist and he is having a pic. at another level there is this issue, what is driving him, one of the things china has put this together behind the scenes and china wants a buffer state between south korea and it, it wants a buffer state between... xi jinping will have said, look here, unless you sort this out you are not going to be here so sort it out. that is why he is there. we will have to end it there. polly. lord joan, good to see you both. thank you forjoining us. see you both. thank you forjoining us. and to you for watching us, that is the edition of the papers tonight. you can see the front—pages of all of them on line. it's all there for you — seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers — and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you polly and digby. goodbye. most of us had a beautiful day
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today. looks like tuesday is going today. looks like tuesday is going to bea today. looks like tuesday is going to be a bit more cloudy in fact overcast for some of us, but the best of the sunshine will remain across many western areas of the uk, so across many western areas of the uk, so let us look at the forecast then for the rest of the evening and overnight. the clouds already evident here in eastern and northern area, clear spells across central parts of england and wales and out to the south—west. then through the night gradually it will turn cloudier and cloudier. not especially cold round 8 degrees in aberdeen, 12 or 13 in the south. tomorrow starts off sunny in some areas but the cloud may increase into the afternoon, so the thinking is maybe eastern area, the midland, south—east could end up on the cloudy side be the coasts of wales from the west uncountry to scotland should be fine, with a lot of sunny weather. that's it. bye. this is bbc news.
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the headlines at 11pm: donald trump and kim jong—un are in singapore ahead of their historic meeting in three hours. american officials say preliminary talks with the north koreans have moved quickly, and they're focused on a key prize. the complete and verifiable and irreversible denuclearisation of the korea peninsula is the only outcome that the united states will accept. theresa may calls on conservative mps to unite behind her ahead of tomorrow's crucial brexit bill debate, but labour accuses her of a fudged attempt to heal divisions in her party. and on newsnight, as the greatest showman on earth come together in just a few hours time, john sweeney will take you to the heart of the qin dynasty in north korea —— greatest show men. —— kim dynasty.

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