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the us department ofjustice says the former head of the fbi made a ‘serious error ofjudgement‘ when he re—opened an investigation into hillary clinton. the report says james comey was ‘insubordinate‘ in his handling of the investigation into hillary clinton's use of private email. the us state of new york is taking legal action against president trump's charitable foundation and asked for it to be dissolved. president trump himself and three of his children are also being sued. it's alleged the foundation made payments designed to influence the 2016 presidential election. thousands of people have taken part in a silent march past the remains of grenfell tower in west london to mark the first anniversary of the fire. the names of the 72 people who lost their lives were read out at a memorial service. it's just gone half past two.
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now on bbc news, thursday in parliament. hello and welcome to the programme. coming up: mps are concerned after rolls royce announces it's making thousands of redundancies. these are the kind of drops, this is the kind of industry that we want for the future because of its export potential and it potential across the world. —— the kind ofjobs. the snp attacks the scottish secretary over his handling of devolution and brexit. if he has any self—respect, resign and do it now! and mps aren't happy over the uk's exclusion from the eu's satellite navigation system, galileo. i hope we are planning to get even. but first... at noon a division bell rang throughout the palace of westminster to mark the first anniversary of the horrific fire that
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engulfed grenfell tower. a minutes silence, colleagues. colleagues, thank you. earlier the leader of the house said no one would ever forget the shocking and heart breaking scenes a year ago. 72 people died as a result of the fire. the strength, dignity and determination showed by the survivors and the families of all those affected has been truly inspiring. i want to pay tribute to all of them. our overwhelming priority over the last year and going forward is to ensure the survivors of this terrible event get the homes and support they need, and the truth and justice they deserve. andrea leadsom. the engineering firm, rolls royce, is cutting 4,600 jobs over the next two years as part
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of a major restructuring programme. most of the posts affected are at the company's base in derby. middle managers and back—office staff will bear the brunt of the cuts. the company is refocusing its business on civil aerospace, defence and power systems. the business secretary said it was a worrying time for staff. but he struck an upbeat note. rolls royce has informed me that the announcement does not reflect a reduction in growth by the company. indeed the reverse. rolls—royce has a growing order book of over £170 billion pounds. mr east told me we'll need more staff directly employed on both the manufacture of components and assembly to meet that demand. the company has told me that it will continue to recruit engineers, technicians and apprentices. i hope he understands clearly the enormous impact, economic and social impact, this announcement will have particularly, as he said on the city of derby, and across the east midlands and elsewhere, anywhere in this country where manufacturing is thought important
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and particularly where manufacturing excellence is highly regarded. i'm pleased to hear him say that he recognizes the huge importance of a world class company like rolls— royce, especially as we approach leaving the european union. and these are the kind ofjobs, this is the kind of industry, that we want for the future because of its export potential and because its potential across the world. isn't it time that we saw the government legislating to have workers on the boards of companies, so there is somebody there to represent the interests of the workforce? because at the moment we're seeing an expanding workforce, sorry an expanding company, as you say, expanding order books, and yet the workforce is diminishing. isn't this a failure
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of shareholder capitalism, which basically sacrifices jobs on the altar of higher shareholder dividends? it's very important that the company adheres to the agreements that it has with the trade unions. and i will, of course, make sure that it that does that. in terms of his overall statement, what he said about efficiency and companies, i think he should just reflect that his desire to overthrow capitalism will make it very hard for anyone to find work in any private company at any time. people talk in general terms about too many chiefs and not enough indians. does the secretary of state share my concerns that it seems counter—intuitive that rolls—royce say they're going to employ more engineers are going to continue and increase investment in r&d and they're going to expand massively while they're doing this restructure and downsizing the management? that just doesn't sound quite right to me. this is not, i have to say to him, uncommon
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across competitive industries. most industries are becoming more simple in terms of their internal processes. that's not to say that the skills and the commitment and the loyalty of those people who are affected is not extremely high and that they won't be in strong demand elsewhere, and it's very important that we should support that. we will give all the help and assistance that we can if retraining is needed. this devastating news today will come to a lot of families and the promise ofjam tomorrow may not satisfy them. there are also reports that rolls—royce are intending to move some operations into europe. can the minister confirm what discussions he's had with rolls—royce to prevent these moves as a result of our depart from europe? the company has been absolutely clear that this is about making
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the company more efficient. it has no relation to brexit, although it is fair to say that the continued ability to operate a just in time production system once we leave the european union, of course, will be very important to them in the future. it would seem from what the secretary of state is saying that a lot of those who are very sadly going to lose theirjobs have very highly transferable skills. will he ensure that the local enterprise partnership and neighbouring leps have the resources they need to place these highly skilled people in alternative employment? he's absolutely right that the skills that are currently in the people that are employed in derby, whether in management or in other supporting roles, are in great demand in what is an expanding economy there. unemployment has halved since 2010 in east midlands. i will work with the neighbouring local enterprise partnerships to make sure that they have every support and businesses that want to employ them have every support in identifying what could be very talented and welcome additions to their workforce. the business secretary greg clark. 2a hours after being ordered to leave the commons, the snp leader at westminster was back in action, calling for the scottish secretary david mundell to resign. the scottish parliament has refused to support the eu withdrawal bill. with the legislation passing
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through the commons this week, the snp is now accusing ministers of tossing aside an agreement that westminster should not legislate on devolved matters without scotland's consent. the minister insisted the government was abiding by the convention, saying the scottish parliament would end up with more than 80 new powers. these are serious times and serious issues and i've come to this house today with respect and ready for constructive debate. and i hope that that is the spirit on all sides. he set out the devolution measures in the brexit bill. all decision—making powers returning from the eu that intersect with devolved competence will pass directly to cardiff, edinburgh and belfast unless explicit steps are taken to temporarilypreserve an existing eu framework. the inter—governmental agreement underpinning the new clause set out how those steps should be taken, with an emphasis on collaboration and agreement. together, this means we are emphatically delivering on our commitment to give significant further powers to the scottish parliament. these amendments do not and cannot go as far as the scottish government want, because the scottish government want a veto over arrangements that will apply to the whole of the uk. the snp was also angry that
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devolution measures in the bill were passed after less than 20 minutes of debate. labour was with them on that. what happened this week is completely and utterly unacceptable. we have seen shabby and deplorable antics from the tories when it comes to the time allowed for debate. we have seen counterproductive antics from the snp yesterday, that further curtailed debate. the people of scotland deserve better. they simply want to fix this mess by the politicians that they sent here to stand up for them before the shambles ends up in court. ian blackford.
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cheering. thank you, mr speaker. i have to say to the secretary of state for scotland, is that all you've got? is that the best you can do? i mean these are very serious times for scotland. i'm sure thank the right honourable member for advance sight of his statement but i'm deeply, deeply disappointed by its content. he said the uk government had turned the devolution settlement on its head. the sewell convention, mr speaker, is clear. the uk government should not legislate on devolved matters without the consent of the scottish parliament. mr speaker, the scottish parliament denied that consent, not the scottish government, the scottish parliament, the scottish national party, the labour party, the liberal democrats and the greens. we have all said that we do not give consent to what the uk government is seeking to do. yet the secretary of state comes before us today with excuses,
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attempting to save his own skin, knowing that he has totally shafted scotland and the people of scotland. having plunged scotland into constitutional crisis, will he finally do the right thing, if he has any dignity, if he has any self—respect, resign and do it now. mr speaker, after yesterday i'm not taking any lessons from the right honourable gentleman on dignity. but we do also have...at least we've had clarification of what guerrilla tactics are going to be in this parliament, chanting in line with what the right honourable gentleman says. now i respect the fact that the right honourable gentleman opposes brexit.
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he's perfectly entitled to do that. but he is not entitled, firstly, to ignore the views of over a million people in scotland who voted for brexit, who the snp want to airbrush out of history. and he's not entitled to ignore the result of the referendum across the united kingdom as a whole. but there was no response to the call that he should resign. you're watching thursday in parliament with me, mandy baker. now, with debate on the eu withdrawal bill finished in the commons — at least for now — labour wanted to know what was going to happen on the contentious issue of whether parliament has a final say on any brexit outcome. the legislation arrives back in the house of lords next week — complete with further amendments. sir keir starmer told the brexit secretary that it was very good to see him in his place. i've done a quick tally, i think this year he's threatened to resign more times than he's met michel barnier. can the secretary of state say clearly, yes or no,
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will the government's amendment, to be published later today, make clear that should the proposed article 50 deal be voted down, it would then be for parliament to say what happens next, not the executive? i'm afraid the right honourable gentleman will have to wait to see the document when it's published. as he says, it will be published later today. and the amendment was indeed published, but remain—supporting conservatives said it didn't meet their requirements. that may lead to another clash when the bill returns to the commons next week. now, the uk space industry is already fighting to be part of the european satellite navigation system, galileo. and this week it suffered another brexit—shaped setback. the european space agency council has excluded the uk from the next stage of the project, despite british calls for a delay. this is the public regulated service — or prs — a navigation and timing signal intended for use by government agencies, armed forces and emergency services.
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in the commons, labour said the future of the uk's relationship with galileo was extremely important. mr speaker, we do not simply want to be third party users of the eu galileo systems. we want our industry at the heart of the design process. but the commission is insisting that working on the design and development of security—related and prs elements is restricted to eu member states only. the uk space industry is worth nearly 15 billion annually to uk plc. it has over 40,000 direct employees and 1,400 apprentices. so what discussions has the minister had with industry stakeholders about the impact of the uk dropping out of galileo? i can assure the honourable lady the secretary of state has had numerous meetings on this issue and i have personally taken up this issue with every single counterpart that i have met who are members of the european union over the past few months, including yesterday, when i met with the junior defence minister from poland.
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this issue has been communicated very strongly by the defence department to our counterparts. we are disappointed that as yet we have not secured the agreement that we need. can i stress that the agreement that we need is an agreement that would be good for europe, it would be good for the security of europe and it would be good for the security of the united kingdom. and i state again that the united kingdom in leaving the european union has made it very clear that we are not leaving our obligations to the security of europe. those obligations are unconditional and we find it frankly disappointing that european union have not taken those guarantees of those assurances in the spirit that they have been offered. sir desmond swayne. i hope we're planning to get even? minister. well, i understand my right honourable friend's frustration and i say again, i do genuinely feel that the exclusion of the united kingdom on the basis of what i consider to be a false
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security case is unacceptable. but this is not about getting even. it is about doing the right thing for the industry in the united kingdom, doing the right thing for our defence capabilities. i would prefer to get the right decision. this is an extremely concerning situation, and one which clearly demonstrates how shambolic the negotiations actually are. it is in the uk's strategic defence interest to maintain a uk—eu security partnership. and we don't build or maintain trust by taking a high—handed approach to our negotiations. it would be a shame if our defence and security services weren't fully a part of the galileo system. but we get round that. we have a world beating, world class space technology industry in our country. and would the minister agree with me that if they were not involved the galileo project it would be the poorerfor their non—involvement? this decision shows there are key elements in the european commission who are determined to punish the united kingdom for brexit
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even if it's at their own expense. and our response to this decision has implications for the wider negotiations. so can i urge my honourable friend not to go back on bended knee but to make it clear that given that our goodwill has been rebuffed and given our status as a security guarantor for the continent if of europe, unless this decision is reversed at the european council we will proceed forthwith to set up our own bespoke system. i think this issue will have to be taken up at a very high level. it has to be highlighted that the loss to the galileo project from the uk not being involved should not be underestimated but if necessary, as i have said several times this morning, the united kingdom will move ahead to develop our own system. safe havens should be set up on the coast of north africa, for migrants fleeing their countries. that was the call from one peer as the lords debated the plight of more than 600 people
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who'd been left at sea on the rescue ship aquarius. they were stranded after italy and malta refused to let the ship dock. the un refugee agency and the european union had both called for a swift end to the stand—off between the two countries before spain's prime minister stepped in and agreed to take them. at question time one peer said he'd visited camps in sicily where migrants were being housed — and he'd seen the pressures italy was facing. i'm also well aware of the pressure in libya, where the international organization for migration believes that there are now hundreds of thousands of people, both refugees and economic migrants, in camps, official and unofficial, facing, in some cases ending up in slave markets and other cases these people have no choice but to get on those boats across the mediterranean. will the government, with other european partners, urge italy to reopen the ports to all rescue vehicles, pending discussions on a more sustainable solution, where other countries take theirfair share and step up financially and morally?
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no—one can be unmoved by the piteous plight of vulnerable people who are being cruelly exploited by ruthless smugglers and traffickers. and it is a case that the uk remains committed to working with european partners to tackle the shared challenge of illegal migration. for example, we are a major contributor to 0peration sophia, the eu's counter—illegal migration operation in the mediterranean, including through naval assets, headquarters staff and support to the libyan naval coastguard. the public perception here is that immigration is largely a problem of the european union and that if we leave the european union,
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our immigration problems will be largely resolved. in reality, the majority of immigrants over the last 20 years have come almost every year from outside the eu. and when we look at africa, where the population has doubled in the last 25 years and is likely double again in 30 years, the pressures to get across the mediterranean to europe are going to be huge. some of those will make it to britain. so do we not therefore have to continue, whether or not and when we leave the eu, to work very closely to face this common problem with our european partners? perhaps what he does identify is the kernel of the problem, and that is, i think, to adopt what the uk has been adopting, which is a whole of route approach, which is to try and actually identify the problems at source in the countries of origin and do whatever we can to assist migrants in making a decision not to undertake a hazardous, and in some cases fataljourney. might ijust press her to revisit suggestions made in your lordship‘s house about the creation on the coast of north africa of internationally guaranteed safe havens, where people can live in security and develop livelihoods and have homes and also look at the root cause of violations, egregious in many cases, of human rights in countries like eritrea and sudan,
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from which people are fleeing by the hundreds of thousands. well, the united kingdom, as i said earlier, is in close communication with libya and has actively supported measures in libya to address some of the principal issues confronting migrants and the united kingdom will continue to review and assess that position. the noble lord, i think, makes a number of interesting suggestions and i certainly will have a further look at these. lady goldie. the former trade union leader, bill morris, has been talking about the plight of british citizens from the windrush generation who found themselves at risk of being deported. now a labour peer, lord morris, said he'd arrived in the uk from jamaica in 1954 when he was 16. he said the scandal over their treatment stemmed from a change in the law in 2012 which meant people — who'd been told they were british citizens — had to provide documents to prove they could work legally, rent a home
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or get access to benefits. lord morris said without the right paperwork many people found themselves out of work and homeless. proof of income tax and national insurance payments were not accepted. they had fallen foul of laws, intended, we are told, to catch illegal immigrants whose tabloids and indeed some of the papers who should have a better knowledge took the view that politicians knew best. and of course, they were taken to a situation where home became a place they know not. over in the commons, mps held a backbench debate on the 70th anniversary of the arrival of the windrush migrants. dawn butler, a labour mp, spoke of her parents, who came from jamaica. herfather had manyjobs — including as a musician. he used to tell me about the stories
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of him singing in the pubs where black people were not even welcomed or were scared to go. and i feel that when my dad came to this country he contributed greatly, not only in the work that he did but in breaking down societal barriers, so many barriers. and once he made enough money he rented a room and sent for my mother and my mother came to this country and was surprised at a number of things. that food was cooked without any seasoning. that english people only bathed once a week and went to bathhouses and that children didn't have school clothes, playing out clothes and church clothes because that was an absolute must in the jamaican household. dawn butler.
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back in the commons, there were concerns over the arrest all of the gay rights campaigner peter tatchell in moscow after he staged a one—man protest near the kremlin. his detention was raised by the chair of the foreign affairs committee. tom tugendhat was presenting a report on government preparations to ensure the safety of british fans travelling to the world cup in russia. mr tugendhat said his committee continued to have serious concerns for any fans from minority communities. we received evidence of vile threats made towards lgbt football fans warning them not to come to the world cup. racist abuse is also common around football matches in russia. and the fco has warned travellers about the risks of racially—motivated attacks. hooligan groups often have links to far—right politics. though the united kingdom recognises
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the risk to minorities, we are concerned that their approach in this area has been overly complacent. the foreign office's minister of state offered us only vague reassurances about the russian state's commitment to protect minority fans. and there is also a risk of attacks targeted against uk nationals generally. after the salisbury incident, the foreign office warned travellers that heightened political tensions could lead to anti—british sentiments. and for this it's also worth noting that although, of course, the focus is on england, fans from across the united kingdom will be going to support teams from across the world. i was delighted to see as part of the report that the committee has asked the government to produce documentation to go to fifa and uefa to see whether or not people who are bidding for these major sporting events, including the world cup, are indeed suitable
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to host them. can i also wish england all the very best in the world cup, partly or maybe mainly to do with the fact that i've put some money on them, so that's my scottishness shining through. the foreign office minister said there was plenty of advice for fans on the "on the ball" website and through online travel alerts. we continue to believe that about 10,000 british nationals will travel to russia for the world cup. so could ijust ask him tojoin with me in repeating the recommendation that people sign up for that and also don't forget to buy their travel insurance. tom tugendhat ended with a message for gareth southgate‘s 23. and of course i wish the very best of luck to the england team when they play tunisia on monday, and i look forward to welcoming them home with the trophy. and that rather muted response brings us to the end of the programme. so from me, mandy baker, goodbye. hello once again, thanks forjoining me.
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let's get you right up to date with how we see the next few days or so across all parts of the british isles. storm hector pretty much lived up to what we expected of it. some of the gusts were really quite disruptive. this was the damage as seen in muirkirk, in the eastern side of ayrshire. but it wasn't like it everywhere. further south, once the frontal system cleared away, yes, it was a breezy old day, but at least there was some sunshine to speak of, and that will be the way of it for the most part on friday, as well. there's hector heading away towards the top end of the north sea, up into the norwegian sea. still quite a powerful beast, so it will still be quite breezy
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across northern parts of scotland, but nowhere near the sort of strength that we saw during the course of thursday. there will still be quite a raft of showers, longer spells of rain getting into central, western parts of scotland initially, then gradually dribbling away a little bit further east. further south, the odd isolated shower, no great organisation about them, and the top temperature on the day of 22. so the weekend — saturday showers, if not longer spells of rain, but the weekend by no means a write—off. here we are on saturday with quite an active little frontal system for the sort of top half of the british isles. so northern parts of wales, the north midlands, and all points north at some point in the day seeing some really quite heavy rain. further south, the trailing portion of that weather front, well, there'll be a lot of cloud, there'll be the odd bit and piece of rain. gardeners, that won't be the answer to your prayers. that frontal system takes the time to move away as the low pressure transfers away off into the north sea. and there's a little ridge of high pressure just follows on behind, trying to set sunday up as a better day than saturday. and it will succeed, for the most part, although you really couldn't rule out, later in the day,
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perhaps a cold frontjust dragging more cloud and the prospect of a wee bit of rain into the far west of england, western wales, and then arcing away to the south—west of scotland, maybe up into northern ireland too. so generally speaking, on sunday, the further north and east you are, the drier and brighter your day should be. here we move you from sunday on into monday, and again a little weak ridge of high pressure just trying to settle things down across the southern half of the british isles. looking further north, well, you've still got that prospect of a south—westerly breeze, probably a bit of it, but, in the sunshine further south, 23 could be yours. welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to viewers
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in north america and around the globe. my name is mike embley. our top stories: errors ofjudgement but not political bias — thejustice department's verdict on the former fbi director who investigated hillary clinton's e—mails. new york's attorney general sues the trump foundation, claiming it's been used as donald trump's checkbook for years. a day of remembrance for the 72 victims of the london tower—block tragedy on the first anniversary of the fire. the world cup kicks off in moscow — and hosts russia provide a spectacular opening ceremony and score a big win over saudi arabia.

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