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this is bbc news, the headlines — more than 600 migrants, on board a ship that was refused entry by both italy and malta, are due to arrive at a port in the spanish city of valencia after a week at sea. the migrants, mainly from africa, are being welcomed by around 1,000 aid workers and almost 500 translators. the so—called video assistant referee has made its world cup debut — it identified a penalty for france, which the side went on to score, helping them defeat australia 2-1. there's been fresh violence in nicaragua just a day after the governent and opposition called a ceasefire. eight people died on saturday, including six members of one family whose home was burned down at dawn. there've been protests in greece after prime minister alexis tsipras survived a no—confidence vote brought by the opposition after he struck a controversial deal over the renaming of neighbouring macedonia. now on bbc news, it's time for politics europe. hello and welcome to politics
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europe. your regular guide to the stock —— top stories in brussels and strasbourg. after the migrant crisis in the mediterranean takes a new turn, what solution can europe offer? we look at the latest twist in the brexit row between britain and the eu over the satnav system. and after meps decide not to call fred diplomatic boycott at the world
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cup —— are they big questions that a host, russia? —— not to call for a diplomatic boycott. so, all that to come in the next half an hour and joining me for all of it, butjupp —— commentators. first of all, our guide to the latest from europe in just 60 seconds. the european parliament kicked the idea of a diplomatic boycott of the world cup, calling instead for the eu to simply condemn human rights violations in russia. angela merkel may be facing a coalition crisis after clashing with her interior minister over plans to turn away a asylu m minister over plans to turn away a asylum seekers at the german border. the press conference to announce the policy was abruptly called off when it emerged angela merkel had blocked the plans. the dutch prime minister told meps that the eu should rein in
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its spending once the eu heads of the excerpts. it is only logical that the budget should shrink after brexit. there was more belt tightening as it was agreed to cut the number of meps after brexit and critics of the so—called rustles gravy train had a headline writing field day when yes, you guessed it, it broke down taking officials to strasbourg, leaving them stranded the hours with only ash flock of sheep for company. ——a flock of sheep. let's pick up on brexit and who better to help us than the bbc europe correspondent katia adler. a lot has happened here and parliament this week. how has that been viewed from where you are? it has been viewed with several bags of popcorn and a few packets of crisps as well. basically, the way the people behind me in the building, the european commission, it is time for them to
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watch and wait. they cannot get involved in what is absolutely, you know, a situation of domestic politics. friendly, taking a wider look at this, this is how the eu has felt throughout much of the brexit negotiation process. they feel in the eu that the government has spent so the eu that the government has spent so much time negotiating, arguing and fighting with itself that that has stopped at coming here to brussels weather tough, single line on britain's half when it comes to brexit —— with a tougher single line. it really is in its hands and after what we are saying in westminster this week, the message here is, we don't quite understand it but when you are finished, we are here. what is your reaction to that, paul? that is a fair summary. i am critic of the european union even though i voted to remain. because the government doesn't have majority for its position, it can't, with any credibility, going to say anything.
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including, on the galileo issue, on the security and defence issues. we are getting pushed around, left right and centre. for a conservative party which always sought to embody the nation and go around the world proclaiming britain's greatness, to watch what katy was saying they are, it cannot be a source of pride. —— what katya was saying. everyone is on the gravy train with a nice big pension. they don't like we voted to leave and the government is going to enact the vote because normally when people vote against the eu, they are told to vote again. katya, is it with glee, with popcorn, that they are watching what they are seen as a certain amount of entertainment over here? or is it with sorrow? it was a
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bit glib of me to say that. they, like wheat, are in front of their television sets, watching. —— like we foot of people in this building are pouring through this press and watching our television screens so that when it go for background meetings, they will quote in the articles in various british newspapers. they are watching everything extremely carefully. blee i would not say at all. —— glee. in fa ct, i would not say at all. —— glee. in fact, theresa may has a lot of support here. it is felt in all european capitals, they really wish it wasn't happening. they do believe it wasn't happening. they do believe it is happening and as such, they kind of want to get on with it. they wa nt to kind of want to get on with it. they want to have a successful deal for the uk and the eu. 0bviously, want to have a successful deal for the uk and the eu. obviously, the eu is outgunning for itself and what is the best deal. if the uk's economy
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is in the doldrums, that doesn't help the eu, if it is in political crisis, that doesn't help them either. glee, definitely not. frustration and impatience, yes. as we mentioned earlier, the eu's migrant crisis might have slowed but it hasn't stopped. when we get information, we will inform you. this is my, don't worry, you are here say that we will find a safe place for you. 0k? you are here say that we will find a safe place for you. ok? the safe place wasn't italy for these migrants rushed —— rescued by a charity this week. they were barred from entry, a strong message from the new italian government. an alliance between the radical 5—star movement and the tough on immigration league party. ngos or private institutions will bring migrants to our harbours. that was clearly stated. we will accept only people and migrants who have rights to come in the european union and
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we re to come in the european union and were brought to our harbours by official missions. that new government and this boat have turbocharged the long eu debate about migration. they have been going around in circles for more than two years trying to construct a common asylum policy that pleases everyone. the proposal is made up of lots of different elements which is quite difficult to get your head round. it boils down to this. our country is prepared to take in people who didn't arrive at their borders? meps are still smarting from the ride —— migrant crisis and the failure of the eu's scheme to share out asylum seekers. you had countries who did not even take one immigrant, either from italy countries who did not even take one immigrant, eitherfrom italy greece will stop to help these particular countries, there are only two countries, there are only two countries who facilitate location quota will stop those are malta and ireland. all of the other countries did not fulfil their quotas. if we
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believe in solidarity and if these member states really want to help out in the why couldn't they have feasible location quotas? there is a democratic element here as to whether a country once to be multicultural or not. hungary says no, we don't want to be multicultural. we used to be that before 1914 but then britain and france told us —— turned us into a monoculture so leave us alone now.l potential answer doing the rounds here this week is that the eu should set up reception centres in non—eu countries. an idea we put to the migration commissioner. is me an example where a country has accepted to host this in the soil? somewhere in africa? is that your -- is that your way of saying it is not a good idea? why not? so far, we listen to these ideas without having any
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concrete proposal. as i said before, these countries must open their doors, welcomed them and tell us here we are to do it. now the debate about avoiding another migration crisis moves from the european parliament to a showdown at a summit of eu leaders at the end of the month. adam fleming reporting. let's talk to catch you adler at end about this huge issue for the eu. —— katya adler. can you give us a context in terms of the scale of the migration crisis as so many people see it in europe and the effect it has had on the eu? first of all, you will remember the height of the migrant crisis in 2015 when more than 1 million irregular migrants came into the european union stop many of them into greece or remember some of the british holidaymakers lying on the beach when the boats were arriving of many syrian refugees trying to
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escape the conflict. that was the height of the crisis. since then, the numbers have gone down considerably and in fact, i heard when you were talking in your introduction about the current migrant crisis, if you look at the frontline mediterranean countries of italy, greece and even spain, they will say that this crisis never went away between 2015 and now but the rest of the eu, once those big numbers had dropped and people stopped flooding across the continent, the rest of the eu countries not directly a affected we re countries not directly a affected were pretty happy to sterner way. spain's ray minister said this week like ostriches burying their head in the sand. this has all come out again this week because italy refused to take in the aquarius boat carrying hundreds of irregular migrants and it has brought at front and centre—back into european politics. as the howard has affected the eu, hugely, of course. —— how it has affected. all you see is european disunity. if you go back to 2015, eu countries couldn't fast enough slam the doors on each other
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to stop the migrants coming into their country. now again you see the countries of bickering amongst each other. what i would say tojulie, in regards to people who want to leave the eu, this is an issue that test the eu, this is an issue that test the eu, this is an issue that test the eu apart but when you ask at the moment opinion polls in most of the eu, it is not that people want to leave the european union but they wa nt leave the european union but they want it reformed. they want it massively reformed. migration is front and centre in one of the top priority lists. that is interesting, isn't it, in terms of whether it has provoked anti—eu sentiment which it clearly has, to some extent, but not so clearly has, to some extent, but not so much that people are saying we wa nt so much that people are saying we want out. do you agree? it has fuelled eurosceptic parties. their main issue has been migration but they have pre—existing sceptic views on europe. renegotiating. what is
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happening is the conservative right is getting muscle from the clear and legitimate concern people have about uncontrolled migration into europe. what do you think about that katya? that it has fuelled the populist right movements in terms of political parties? i am careful when to say it fuels those parties. we have to ask ourselves whether it is the united states or europe, where are these parties coming from? they are these parties coming from? they are filling a gap in the market. our european citizens across the continent who worry about migration, they worry about globalisation, they worry about all sorts of things and they feel that their voices have been heard. you have populist politicians, for want of a better word, we can analyse it, they are diving this issue now because they
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see a gap in the market. we look at the aquarius issue this week, you can see how one eu politician after another scrambled to make political capital. 0n the one side you have italy's interior minister who has really co m e italy's interior minister who has really come to national fame of late on an anti— migration ticket. 0n the other hand, the new prime minister of spain petra shand shares who tried to make new strap here in brussels —— pedro sanchez, he said, 0k, italy doesn't want them, i will ta ke 0k, italy doesn't want them, i will take them. look at germany and the interior clashing and bashing that is going on with the very right conservative party and the interior minister who was to crack down on migration compare to angela merkel. when we talk about migration, it is on two levels. the actual migration issue and there is a yawning gap in eu policy to find a common, workable, accepted solution for all the member states and then domestic politics. those who worry actively, voters who worry about migration and
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politicians who really, to be honest, cynically use that situation to make political points. as each exposed, it probably has in your mind, to some extent the impetus of those eu institutions? because here, nationstates and their political situations and their priorities to their home nations has trumped what would have been an eu common policy? democracy is trumped. the people of those countries have voted for national governments through coalitions or whatever to do their world. i know through coalitions or whatever to do theirworld. i know this through coalitions or whatever to do their world. i know this is old—fashioned but it might catch on one day. it is fascinating, the dividing lines in the eu between the northern european states and the mediterranean states, who bore the brunt of that mass migration of illegal immigrants, economic migrants, i completely understand that there are 5 billion people in the world who would like to have the life that is offered in europe but unfortunately the european people have not said, come on, we will share it with you. that's not how it works. you also have the eastern european countries, it is interesting, whether they are
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left—wing or right—wing governments, they said no thank you, we will not be told what to do by the eu, we will bow to what our people want.|j think the big danger, in all of our nightmares, whether you are for or against the european union, the nightmare is that it rakes up in an uncontrollable way. the way in your nightmare that it does that is if the angela merkel government falls, and switches to the right, as the austrian government did. no, what has happened, and it was alluded to, alexander vernon, the leader of the csu, this is the party of angela merkel‘s party, has come out strongly in favour of this austrian— italian line, and that is right now today under mining angela merkel‘s authority. angela merkel undermined her authority when she basically invited a million people, on document, unproven, didn't know who they were, into the country. she cancelled the w3 unilaterally, dumped the problem onto eastern europe and greece, they didn't want it, and that is a simmering problem for europe. how dangerous is it, listening to that, if we look at the german situation particularly, and
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whether she, angela merkel, and austria and italy are going to somehow work this out amongst themselves? is it a moment of danger for the eu? i like to turn things on their head, really. you state is dangerous, i would say it is an opportunity for the eu. with all those member states, the eu never really ta kes those member states, the eu never really takes dramatic action on this proverbial axe are well and truly against the wall. arguably we are at the situation at the moment, with linchpin germany in such trouble over migration issue once again. now, within the government and within the governing party, if you like, itself, could this actually now finally galvanised eu countries to ta ke now finally galvanised eu countries to take some actions? i would argue more now than two weeks ago, or even one week ago, before the aquarius the vital. as for individual nations, the eu is made up of individual nations. so they do have to talk to each other to try to bounce ideas off each other before they come and sit here, which they will do, here in brussels, at the end of the month. if they start that
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conversation only now, when they actually come here, forget it. forget anil mitre, it would be an all—yearer. so they do need to talk to each other and it does make sense. they haven't had much success so sense. they haven't had much success so far when it comes to migration. when we go back to 2015 what actually stopped the flow of migrants across the continent wasn't the brussels solution, which was to make that questionable deal with turkey to stop refugees coming across. it was more austria, again, taking the initiative and blocking that route from the south of europe to be rich in north that the migrants wanted to take, and arguably, that is what slowed the figures down. —— the richer north. now you see austria trying to lead with this initiative again, denmark has another one, other countries are trying to look at how to move forward with migration. they don't often agree the one thing they would all agree on at the moment, all the eu member states, is that they have to talk about migration and they absolutely have to do something. and they know in italy they have an unpredictable government. thank you for joining unpredictable government. thank you forjoining us for that interesting discussion in brussels. 0ur reporter
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greg dawson has it in his contract that we play that whenever he appears, ori that we play that whenever he appears, or i sing it. he is here to tell us about the other galileo, the eu satellite navigation system, and it is the cause of a big brexit bust up. why? galileo is essentially the european equivalent of the us gps navigation system. now, since its inception in 2003, the uk has been front and centre. it has developed a lot of the satellites for the system, which are said to be a lot more than stand accurate than gps. £1 billion of uk taxpayer money has gone into it. i think the uk government were rather hoping that brexit wouldn't have a faq that its future participation. —— wouldn't have affected. was that are naive, do you think, bearing in mind that brexit seems to seep into all aspects of policy, and does the eu have a point in saying, well, the u.k.'s leading and apple cannot be pa rt u.k.'s leading and apple cannot be part of the inner circle discussions? —— and therefore
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cannot. it comes down to the ink of that information galileo will provide which could assist future military operations. —— encrypted. the uk wants to maintain that access for security reasons. u.k.'s arguing, you are going to be a third party, why should you have access to the information of that member states ? the information of that member states? subs are mac —— subsequent to that stand—off there was a delegation of the ear say yesterday which approves beeper cured of new satellites to be built and as a result uk firms have been locked out about process. -- the esa. whether we go from here? the government is busy unhappy. they are hoping this can still be mended but they are now accusing the eu of a lack of goodwill and effectively using galileo as a negotiating tactic. goodwill and effectively using galileo as a negotiating tacticm that where it stands now? that actually, galileo was a proxy for the broader brexit debate?” actually, galileo was a proxy for the broader brexit debate? i think it is being interpreted as a fight about something much more than satellites and navigation systems. the issue of defence and security in
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the brexit negotiations, i think for many people that was seen as a given that there would be co—operation and this has highlighted that it is not going as smoothly as anticipated.“ that a surprise? i seem to remember theresa may early on, i can remember the precise date for speech, she did allude at one point that maybe security and co—operation might be on the table. there was a bit of rolling back from that. from the very beginning, we were being told by people on the inside that britain would basically say, you don't want to lose gchq, you don't want to lose britain's military contribution to the defence of europe, do you? in public, the government has said we are not trying to use this as a negotiation. but this, read it, it is the eu saying, insofar as you keep threatening to pull security cooperation, we can threaten to pull galileo. and i'm sorry, it is a terrible position to be in. for both sides, surely. yes, absolutely. but british soft power should be going to italy right now, the italians
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have got a lot of axe to grind with brussels, which should be talking to the italians and saying, let's do a deal. i'm sorry to say, if boris johnson wants to drag donald trump's negotiating tactics, dragged them into that. let's do some deals with europe. instead we are helpless. we are helpless because the government is weak. downside of brexit? not remotely. this is the eu saying we are taking our ball and going home. it is ridiculous, and i find it extraordinary, the remainers, when the eu says in flight as they say, seek we told you brexit was bad. if the government says it, they say this is an awful thing for you to say. the reality is that we don't co—operate on military and security and intelligence and all these other issues with eu countries because we are in the eu, we co—operate because we are in europe and we share the same democratic values, or at least i thought we did. these things are all going to go ahead. there was one point where they were saying we weren't going to be involved in cern, which is in switzerland, not even in the eu. 0f cern, which is in switzerland, not even in the eu. of course this will carry on. it is a lot of hot air.
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thanks for coming in, great. a shame we're not playing galileo at the end. you can sing it. go on, then. galileo! call the bluff. now, the world cup is under way. wall charts are being filled in around the nation. sweepstakes everywhere. along with the football claims that the host, russia, will use the contest to deflect this is a lot of factions on the world stage. that didn't seem to bother robbie williams who played at the opening ceremony yesterday, and yesterday, meps decided not to back calls frayed dramatic boycott. julia, should they have done? frayed dramatic boycott. julia, should they have done ?|j frayed dramatic boycott. julia, should they have done? i don't think any should they have done? i don't think a ny western should they have done? i don't think any western democratic nation should have agreed to the world cup actually happening in moscow, in russia, at all. it is an absolute outrage. the fact that the 1980 0lympics were boycotted because of the invasion of afghanistan, crimea, we are so the invasion of afghanistan, crimea, we are so bothered about. yes, you can shoot a jetliner of innocent people out of the sky, not a problem. syria, the skripal is, not
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a problem. it should have been all right thinking dimmock resignations boycotting. what did you see, i do know she did see it, but the saudi crown prince and vladimir putin there, sitting, sort of centre and front of stage, two great leaders, 01’ front of stage, two great leaders, ordid front of stage, two great leaders, or did you see it as a jamboree to dictators? the latter. we are going to get stuffed down our throats for the next month, unfortunately, because this will be one long advert for the fake russia that vladimir putin wants to project to the world. unit, we saw peter tatchell arrested yesterday. all credit to him. we have allowed him to do it. and the only thing i would say is that supporters, there is a big question on the ground, are the supporters going to try to actually do what support is always do and create some kind of internationalist, globalist jamboree, or the unfortunate darkside of russian football veganism, are we going to see that? that is going to be the news angle. i hope we are talking about stuff on the pitch rather than off the pitch,
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people say to take the politics out of all, boris johnson people say to take the politics out of all, borisjohnson said today, no chance whatsoever. it was never going to be boycotted. it would be painful for the going to be boycotted. it would be painfulfor the fans going to be boycotted. it would be painful for the fans and the players. but the reality is committed to not take the politics out of football because the only reason this world cup is being played in russia and the next one in qatar is because of politics. and corruption, sadly. and it is going to continue. do you think any determination by vladimir putin to somehow protect their positive image of the country will work? —— project. as the west, we have to engage putin. whatever he has done, mh17 and the rest, we have to find a way of containing him and coping with a hybrid warfare, coping with the soft power, and one way of doing thatis the soft power, and one way of doing that is to try to read what he is try to do here, and understand, what does he want, what can we give him, what can't we give him? it is a very politicised time. the public read it that way, and british politicians have to engage with what is going on day by day. i tell you what might help, if the leader of her majesty ‘s opposition to stand up and house of commons and spout the same lines
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as the kremlin when it comes to citizens being poisoned on british soil by a russian agent. he asked the right question, didn't he? didn't he? when the answer came, it turned out to be the right question. are you watching the matches? absolutely. down the pub. that's it for now. thanks to all of my guests and goodbye from all the sea. —— from all of us here. hello. a lot of quiet weather across the uk. particularly across scotland. some sunshine in the morning across eastern areas but quickly, the clouds will increase and we are going to end up with a pretty cloudy sunday. this is what it looks like on the satellite image, at least in the last few hours. you can see the breaks in the cloud across much of the country but this is racing in our direction and that will be on top of the uk during the course of sunday, giving way to the cloudy day.
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early hours of the morning, clear skies across eastern areas, all the way to scotland. here the cloud is already encroaching, some of it thick enough to produce a bit of light rain or drizzle. nothing more than that, though. 13 in the south first thing on sunday. closer to eight degrees in aberdeen. in rural spots in scotland, it could be as cold as four celsius. sunday morning dawns on a cloudy note across many western areas, a bit of sunshine in the east, not lasting too long. basically, through the course of the day, the clouds will get thicker and thicker and i suspect there will be some coastal drizzle around western areas. temperatures in the south or the north will be more or less the same, around 17 or 18 degrees. the pollen levels will still be relatively high across much of england but notice the pollen levels are easing off in the west because of the winds coming off the atlantic so bringing some slightly fresher conditions. on monday, we will see a pressure system drifting further north, still some weather fronts moving through. to the south of the weather fronts, some warmer air coming in off the south so temperatures will start
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to rise across the southern half of the uk. the low here, weather fronts coming in to scotland, bringing some rainfalls, still cool here on monday. to the south, look at those values, 24 in london, possibly reaching 25 celsius. a very warm day come monday across the south with sunshine around as well. unfortunately, if you want some heat and you live in scotland, it's not really heading your way because the heat is coming in from the south and will turn and move in to europe. it means in the north, aberdeen and in belfast, for example, the temperatures will remain in the teens whereas the middle high 20s are expected in the south. hello this is breakfast, with chris mason and sally nugent. theresa may announces a five year plan to pump billions more into the nhs.
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she says the extra spending will be partly paid for by a brexit dividend, but there could be tax rises. we are making the nhs our priority. we are making the nhs our priority. we are making the nhs our priority. we are putting the significant amount of extra money into it, we need to make sure that money is spent wisely. good morning, it's sunday 17thjune. also this morning: pressure grows for a change in the law, after the government allows a boy with severe epilepsy to be treated with an illegal form of cannabis oil.
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