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is today at 5 — the future of heathrow airport — airport — in the next hour mps are due to debate the third runway. the government says the expansion is essential forjobs after brexit. labour hints it could scrap the plans if elected. at the end of the day, governments have to take a decision, form a judgment. that is what we have done and we are now saying to parliament, back thatjudgment. borisjohnson is in afghanistan — he's criticised for missing the vote. the foreign secretary says his resignation would achieve ‘absolutely nothing'. we'll have the latest from heathrow and westminster the other main stories on bbc news at 5. the firefighter who led the initial response to the grenfell fire said he could not remember receiving training about when to order the evacuation of a tower block. the family and friends of a british couple murdered in jamaica after moving there to retire have paid tribute to them. a new entry in the charts — music videos downloaded or streamed online will now contribute to the uk's official top a0. and after the euphoria
of beating panama, it's back to training for england — after securing a place in the knockout stages. it's five o'clock. our main story — the future of london's heathrow airport will be decided later today when mps vote on whether or not to build a third runway. the foreign secretary, borisjohnson — who once said he'd lie down in front of bulldozers — is missing the vote because he's in afghanistan. he's been defending his decision not to resign over the issue saying doing so would have "achieved nothing". labour is officially opposed to the third runway but its mps have a free vote on the issue. here's our political correspondent eleanor garnier.
it is the busiest airport in europe, and tonight after decades of delay mps get the chance to decide whether heathrow should get a third runway. the government says it is the biggest transport decision in a generation. it has promised not a penny of the £14 billion price tag will be met by taxpayers. there will be guaranteed benefits for the whole country and built—in environmental protections. it is really important that the promises we make about noise, air quality, the connections that will be provided elsewhere in the uk, are set in stone. so that when we get to the completion of the runway in the 2020s the things that we've promised today will be things that happen then. and they are promising tens of thousands of newjobs. plus £2.6 billion in compensation with hundreds of homes facing demolition. many here in harmondsworth, where campaigners have
been fighting the plans. my view is we need to block it because it is so dangerous for climate change. this is a threat notjust to my community but the whole country and the planet, if we do not stop this we cannot be taken seriously on climate change. labour is officially opposing the plans, but its mps get the chance to vote how they like. conservatives are being ordered to back the third runway, some critics are expected to rebel, but the foreign secretary finds himself in afghanistan today, meeting the deputy foreign minister and expected to miss this chance to protest having once vowed to lie down in front of the bulldozers to stop expansion. i willjoin you, i will lay down with you in front of those bulldozers. and stop the construction of that third runway. 0thers quit their ministerial posts so that they could vote against the plans. it is all about the pledges you make. i made a pledge to my constituents in chelsea & fulham,
on about 50,000 election leaflets, that i would vote against the proposal in parliament. it would be damaging for my constituency and damaging for london as a whole, and against the national interest. but what is next? the commons will vote on the decision tonight. there will be a planning inspector's consultation on the detailed proposals, but legal challenges look likely from local councils and environmental groups. the aim is for the new third runway to be completed in 2026. tonight could mark the end of the parliamentary road for heathrow but with the possibility of legal hurdles ahead and questions over what labour would do if it got into government, it certainly will not be a done deal. the prime minister will be confident of getting the vote through the commons, but it is a long way before this huge project finally takes off.
in a moment we'll speak to our transport correspondent victoria fritz who's at heathrow, but first our chief political correspondent vicky young is in westminster. a word about the parliamentary mathematics of at this stage. how do they look? it is looking quite good for the government. they have worked this vote, they are broadening their mps to back it and it will be some who do not go along with that but probably not very many. 0n the other side are labour and the leadership, jeremy corbyn who is opposed to the expansion but there are plenty of other labour mps who will back it. interestingly the snp are going to formally save what they are going to do at 6pm. the snp government has beenin do at 6pm. the snp government has been in favour of the expansion
because they think it is good that edinburgh and glasgow and prestwick link to heathrow but there is talk that the snp might not be so willing here to go along with it. we will have to find out whether they abstain or vote against or with the government on all of this but it does look like the government will be able to win the day and the voting lobbies. what boris johnson? we know he is in afghanistan, he was not going to be there today. what is being made of that? you even have some of his colleagues are saying they find it surprising he is not fulfilling his pledge to oppose the expansion of the runway and i think for him personally it is maybe made a lot harder because of up being opposed to the expansion and having a constituency affected by extra aircraft causing noise and pollution. greg hands is also a minister who travels with his job and could have had that same offer
of being conveniently away but he has made it clear that he campaigned for this, put it in his constituency leaflets a nd for this, put it in his constituency leaflets and said two people in his constituency who voted that he would oppose it at detox about commitment and fulfilling promises and that means that people look at boris johnson and say you cannot believe a word he says, he has not gone through with it, not put his money where his mouth is, lying and over the bulldozers and seems that is not going to happen. i think for boris johnson there has been a lot of criticism of him personally. 0ur transport correspondent victoria fritz is at heathrow. give us a sense of the scale of what is being put forward here. i do not think victoria held that question. it is enormous. it has been 50 years and the talking about it. victoria,
there's a big delay may be the noise of aircraft behind you, you are talking about the scale, give us a sense of that. absolutely. a huge project, not least because we are by the biggest population centre in the uk, the busiest moderates, the northwest runway would have to find some way to bisect that at some point. that is a logistical challenge in itself. there's also not just talking about the runway but whether there will be a new terminal satellite terminals, a lot of detail yet to be discussed in all of detail yet to be discussed in all of this. and a huge build, about £14 billion but that excludes things like the amount of money needed to get people in and out of here in the first place. we're talking about a
50% increase in capacity at heathrow. how are people going to travel in and out at capacity is very much at the heart of this problem. these runways at maximum capacity and have been for about ten yea rs capacity and have been for about ten years already, about 250,000 people will go through this airport in the next 24 hours, the busiest time of the year for the airport and they are absolutely stretched when it comes to passengers but also freight and cargo as well. the big argument in favour of this, business and backers as economic, the opportunity of missing out saying if we do not do this then trade will go elsewhere. they say that we have to have this by 2026 and that we can remaina have this by 2026 and that we can remain a trading nation and build on the relationships we have across the uk. but that means there will be people, local people with huge opposition to this and environmentalists as well for bigger issues and concerns are owned for
example nitrogen dioxide levels which have already pitching eu rules and whether or not investors have the appetite to stomach this. this would be a huge project for them and at the moment the investors are taking out more money than heathrow is putting and which means the company as using corporate debt to pay its investors at the moment. they would have to be trying to put money in that rather than take money out in orderfor this money in that rather than take money out in order for this project to get off the ground at all. thank you. the fire—fighter who led the initial response to the grenfell tower fire has begun giving evidence to the public inquiry. watch manager michael dowden told the hearing that he couldn't remember having any training about when to evacuate a tower block — which has a policy for residents to "stay put". 0ur correspondent tom burridge is at the inquiry in central london. michael dowden was initially in
charge of the operation to fight the fire at grenfell tower but perhaps surprisingly he told the public enquiry today that he could not remember ever having any training in how to initiate and carry out an evacuation, a mass evacuation of a high—rise building where a fire has taken hold. high—rise building where a fire has ta ken hold. that high—rise building where a fire has taken hold. that is contrary to national policy which states that incident commanders like him should have a training. the qc questioned michael dowden and set out what the national policy guidelines are on that specific area. my my question is what training did you get in respect of undertaking partial offer evacuation in such a building?
i have not received any practical training outside of that policy. i have not received any practical training outside of that policym is significant because the flames quickly spread from flat 16 of g re nfell tower quickly spread from flat 16 of grenfell tower and the flames had reached the top of whatever the building within 30 minutes but the fire brigade was still telling people to stay in flats for much longer after that. michael dowden was also questioned today about to visit he and colleagues carried out to g re nfell visit he and colleagues carried out to grenfell tower in 2016 well the building was still being refurbished and those visits were supposed to assess fire safety and grenfell tower but he could not remember on those visits whether she had noted the basic fire safety features like for example the fact grenfell tower do not have any sprinklers and had a single escape route. he said he had not noticed whether the building
materials used, he could not remember that of other the fact cladding was being used. as evidence has been cut short, we were told he was not feeling well and the leader of the public enquiry says he has concerns about michael dowden but the decisions he and his colleagues made a critical understanding what happened on the night and what went wrong. police in jamaica are investigating the deaths of a british couple living on the island. the bodies of charlie and gayle anderson, who were both in their 70s, were discovered on friday by neighbours. they had recently retired to the caribbean from manchester — from where our correspondent danny savage reports. gayle and charlie anderson, both in their 70s, both murdered in their home injamaica where they had retired to a few months ago. they were found dead by neighbours in their home in mount pleasant on friday afternoon. the house was partially burned, however one room was totally destroyed by fire. the bodies were observed to have
wounds to the neck and face. however, we are not able to say at this time what could have caused those injuries. until a few months ago they had lived in this street in manchester, but friends say mrs anderson returned to the uk recently to sort out a money problem. a large amount had been fraudulently taken from their credit card in jamaica. although it is not clear if that has anything to do with the double murder. if you asked them for help they would go out of their way. former neighbours told us how immensely popular the couple were and how they would always try and help others. he's been going to local tips, him and his wife, doing bikes up for the kids injamaica. and taking school books, clothes. just really, really nice people. i was like shell—shocked. you know?
i stood here and i just could not move. i did not know what to say, because it came as a big surprise. it was like losing a member of your family, really. their family says charlie and gayle were happily married for 55 years and leave behind four grandchildren and one great—grandchild. in a statement, their two sons said they were hard—working people, the murder rate in parts ofjamaica is very high. so far this year more than 600 people have been killed on the island. danny savage, bbc news, manchester. this is bbc news at five — the headlines: in the next hour mps are due to debate the third runway at heathrow airport. the government says it is essential forjobs after brexit. labour hints it could scrap the plans if elected. borisjohnson is in afghanistan — he's criticised
for missing the vote. the foreign secretary says his resignation would achieve ‘absolutely nothing'. the firefighter who led the initial response to the grenfell fire said he could not remember receiving training about when to order the evacuation of a tower block. and the sports posts russia suffered their first defeat at the world cup, uruguay 3—0 winners in the match to decide who would top the group. russia go through as runners—up. in the other group game egypt and saudi arabia were already out but a stoppage time goal gave the saudi arabian team and their first win at the world cup since 1994. and andy murray will play the second much of his comeback shortly, he is at eastbourne and stan wawrinka as his opponent. i turkey's president erdogan, has promised to implement
rapidly his agenda — after victory in the country's elections. he will now assume sweeping new powers, which were approved in a referendum last year. critics warn he is moving towards increasingly authoritarian rule. the leader of the main opposition group admitted defeat this morning, but said it had not been a fair contest. selin girit reports from istanbul. never before has an election race been so tight in turkey, but the president's supporters did not disappoint. this vote winning machine in turkey held on to power despite a fierce opposition campaign. translation: one nation, one flag, one country, and one state, for this we will be one. the primary challenge he faces is just that — bringing the nation together. this country feels more polarised than ever. president erdogan is either
despised or adored. he will now receive sweeping new powers such as appointing his cabinet, his vice president, and even seniorjudges. that concerns the opposition. president erdogan‘s main rival warned that turkey was entering a dangerous regime of one—man rule. he called on president erdogan to embrace the whole nation. translation: president erdogan, from now on please don't act like you are the leader of the akp. bring people together. be president for the 81 million people. i suggest you use my campaign slogan, "everyone's president". president erdogan‘s governing party lost seats in parliament but will still be able to secure a majority with the help of the nationalist mhp party, who did much better in the election than expected. since the failed coup in 2016 over 100,000 public workers have been dismissed or sacked from their posts. more than 50,000 were arrested.
90% of the media here in turkey is controlled directly or indirectly by the government. but president erdogan is adamant that turkish democracy is strong. and the huge turnout yesterday proved it. with me is ibrahim dogus, who is the director of the centre for turkey studies, an independent organisation which conducts research into the changing political and social landscape of turkey. home at change do you think we will see as a result? things will change dramatically. for the last five yea rs dramatically. for the last five years things have gone backwards in the country compared to seven or eight years of party government with the whole world was expecting to become a democratic society where things would have gotten much better. within the last five years things have gotten worse and i think
the worst is to come in the next few yea rs. the worst is to come in the next few years. when you talk about what is and the country going backwards, what you mean specifically given that he has just received 53% of the vote ? that he has just received 53% of the vote? we had on your report that the country has been polarised for a long time now, this polarisation is creating huge divisions as tensions between societies and amenities, ethnic minorities, religious minorities and the country is not doing well economically. when the country was doing well economically things were controllable, the government was able to claim that under our management things are getting better for the country and all other minor issues will be resolved in the future but right now the economy is not doing well, the country is at war with neighbouring country is at war with neighbouring country in syria and the president is calling his troops and to other territories to target kurdish fighters so things are unlikely to
get back to normal any time soon. why does he still commanded the levels of support that he clearly 7 g yes there have been? about the does? yes there have been? about the way the campaign was conducted but even the opposition are not questioning the actual figures. this election is probably the most unfair election is probably the most unfair election that has taken place in the country. there has never been a proper level playing field for any political party in the country so the process was never fear, elections were not fear when you compare that to government and suggestions backing a certain political party. 90% of the media is directly controlled by government or by businesses who are aligned to the governing party. that creates division. papers are red i miss people and it is actually the tv that makes the difference. 90% of
those mainstream tv channels have been backing president began. —— backing president erdogan. we await specific reaction from washington and moscow, how will this play out in international terms? and moscow, how will this play out in internationalterms? at and moscow, how will this play out in international terms? at some point president erdogan more have to convince the european union or united states or other international powers that he is going to go back to the country on tracks soon. and a country where the economy is expected to do really badly, where it is at one with its own citizens but also its neighbours at the moment of neighbouring countries, things are unlikely to be back to normal. thank you. some of the other stories making bbc news at five. the taxi—hailing app uber, has told westminster magistrates court that the decision last year not to renew its licence in london because of safety concerns was correct.
but the company says there has been "wholesale change" since then. the court is considering if uber is "fit and proper" to operate in the capital. harley davidson is shifting production of motorbikes for sale in europe to factories outside the united states. the company says it's responding to tariffs imposed by the european union. the eu announced the tariffs in retaliation to similar measures brought in by the trump administration. the first detailed figures on the number of students in higher education who have taken their own lives have been published. they reveal that suicide rates among students are higher than they were a decade ago with the number of young men taking their own lives higher than that of women. 95 students took their own lives between july 2016 and july 2017. but the student suicide rates are lower than those for the general population. chi chi izundu reports. since the 1950s there hasn't been robust data into student suicides. but the office for national statistics and the higher education statistics agency have worked together to find out the rates
for those specifically in higher education. in the last 12 months leading up tojuly 2017, 95 students took their own lives in england and wales. the report found that in the last ten years the rate of suicide among students has increased slightly but overall the numbers dying by suicide is lower than the national average of the same age. we believe that every student suicide is at some point preventable. and we are asking universities to step up to prioritise this and to work with us to help prevent these deaths. in the last year before i went to uni i began to struggle more with depression. in herfirst year, 20—year—old rebecca struggled with her mental health at university and tried to take her own life. she now wants more to be done to help support students just like her. i still do think universities could do more especially for people who have got more longer term mental health difficulties that are not just caused by a sudden
event and can kind of be fixed quite quickly. the report which looked at death certificates and the verdicts given at inquests, also found that suicides amongst male students was higher than female. with half of all young people now going to university, the charity student mind says the the onus of help and support should notjust be on the nhs. we see that move towards a whole university approach where everybody from the front line cleaners through to academics through to students themselves feel they are better equipped with the knowledge and confidence and skills to support their own mental health and support others. the number of students disclosing mental health problems has increased fivefold in a decade as has the call for universities to work more actively to help prevent suicides. chi chi izundu, bbc news. if you would like information regarding issues raised by that report, you can go
to bbc.co.uk/actionline, or call for free to hear recorded information on 08000155 998. just to tell you about something we have happening tomorrow — we'll begin special coverage of the nhs — ahead of its 70th birthday. we'll be hearing from the experts, people who've worked for it and been treated by it — over the next few days. send us your questions about the nhs — its current performance and its future — and we'll try and answer them at 1130 on newsroom live tomorrow and here on the five 0'clock news hour at half past five. send them on twitter with the hashtag bbcaskthis or text 61124 or email email@example.com. it's officially the hottest day of the year so far with temperatures hitting 29.4 celsius in central london. and the heatwave is set to continue
with temperatures in some places higher than in athens or miami. sima kotecha reports from birmingham. v0|ceover: digging is hard work but even harder in this heat, and the ice cream is very welcome to cool off. it's good for us, because we sell lots of ice cream! and the faces light up on the children, when they get the ice cream. after a week of sunshine, the momentum is set to continue, some places in the south are expected to reach nearly 30 celsius, making it hotter than athens and los angeles. it's nice to be able to come out instead of being stuck in the house, and the options of what you can do, there's a lot more that you can do when the weather is nice. in other parts of england and wales, it should be between 24 and 27 celsius.
if you suffer from hay fever, you may be in for a difficult week. as we approach the end of the school year, more children are out and about in parks like this one, and that's why the advice issued by public health england is even more crucial. three key things we can all do to stay well are keeping cool, keeping your house cool, and keeping hydrated. on top of that, look out for people who may be vulnerable to hot weather, the elderly, people with long—term health conditions such as heart and lung problems, and very young children who are less able to look after their own temperatures. the last couple of months have been warmer and drier than usual, in the south of england this month could be one of the driest on record. hot weather will be with us all week, we have an area of high pressure right over the country, and with light winds, strong sun, long days, the heat can build up near the surface of the earth and that is what we are seeing this week.
we are told warm weather is here to stay at least until the end ofjune, and forecasters believe we could be looking at similar conditions continuing into the start of next month. time for a look at the weather. for the rest of this week more scenes like these, basking under blue skies and sunshine. sunshine very strong, high uv levels so bear that in mind. if you want rain for the garden then there is not any in this forecast. this is how this evening is looking, a beautiful end to the day and overnight clear starry skies, a bit of extra cloud rolling and towards eastern scotland and england, temperatures between seven and 15 in birmingham. a pretty
one night and southern and western parts. into tomorrow, a bit of mist and merck and cloud, but aside from those areas, looking like another glorious day, lots of sunshine and a small chance of a shamrock and northern ireland but only a small chance as temperatures again get into the mid to high 20s. no real change towards the end of the week, maybe coming cooler by the weekend but before then plenty of sunshine and heat as well. this is bbc news — the headlines.
mps will vote this evening on whether to build a third runway at heathrow airport. the government says it's essential forjobs after brexit. labour hints it could scrap the plans if elected. borisjohnson is in afghanistan. he's criticised for missing the vote — after once promising to lie down in front of a bulldozer to stop the runway. but he says resigning would achieve ‘absolutely nothing‘ the firefighter who led the initial response to the grenfell fire said he could not remember receiving training about when to order the evacuation of a tower block. the family and friends of a british couple murdered in jamaica after moving there to retire have paid tribute to them. let‘s catch up with the sports news with sarah. we can start at the world cup.
russia has suffered their first defeat of the tournament, losing 3—0 to uruguay. both sides were already through to the last 16. they were playing for top spot in group a. the group b deciders are later this evening with both spain and portugal in action. keeping across all of it in moscow... many thanks. wall chart all around the country, you can now fill in who has finished first in group in groupa in group a and groupie. 16 matches in the space of four days. the first of them came with the hosts. a reality check for russia after those two big wins which saw the top their
group, uruguay have cut them back down to size. luis suarez with a clever free kick but uruguay under way. then there was an own goal. two yellow card in this match. russia were down to ten men by half—time. but they held on and got one back from short range. uruguay three, russia zero. —— uruguay held on and got one from short range. egypt were beaten 2—1. this was a fantastic game. mo salah scored his second of the tournament before he packs his bags. egypt were fielding her diary, their keeper, who is 45
and 161 days old. he is officially the oldest world cup player now. a fantastic penalty save for him. but he couldn‘t save the next one from saudi arabia. they changed their penalty taker. it was 1—1 at half—time. they left it late, last kick of the game, in the 95th minute. saudi arabia leaving with a morale boosting victory. but uruguay going through as group winners. russia going through in second place. uruguay will face the second placed team in group d. we will get group be finalised later. —— the second placed team in group b. iran would go through if they win. spain just iran would go through if they win. spainjust need a point iran would go through if they win. spain just need a point against morocco. then they will find out
whether they face uruguay or the hosts, russia, in the last 16. kaliningrad is where england will be playing their final group game against the belgians on thursday night. they will know who will be waiting in the last 16 by then. they have arrived back at their training campjust have arrived back at their training camp just outside st petersburg in repino. just the players that did not start in that big win against panama. dele alli still nursing a thigh strain. everybody over here very excited about england, people back at home too. what does terry butcher think about their performance? no reason why england cannot go all the way. i was asked last night, can they win it, i said i don‘t know. depends what momentum they continue to build on. but it has potential.
it has certainly attracted a lot of interest from the rest of the world. standing back in amazement thinking, how can this be the same team? a group of players from the premier league. they are not internationally recognised. a lot of the squad haven‘t played in a world cup before. it is about building game by game. do the belgian game, see what happens, don‘t get too far ahead of ourselves. england and belgium would be the last to go in this busy week. the games coming thick and fast in the next hour or so. we will be seeing if portugal and spain progress. thanks very much. andy murray has got under way in the second match of his comeback at eastbourne. his opponent is stanislas wawrinka, another three—time grand slam champion on the way back from injury. under way in the first game. andy murray in the lead. we will keep you updated. just one week to
go into wimbledon. qualifying has begun. dan evans is through the first round in straight sets. he needs two more wins to reach the main draw. i missed tennis a lot when i was off. it was a difficult time. it isjust when i was off. it was a difficult time. it is just amazing to be out and playing again. especially my favourite tournament of the year, without doubt. it is good to be back on court. that all of your sport. john watson and ollie foster will be here at 6:30pm with sportsday. many thanks. back to our main story this evening — and the future of london‘s heathrow airport. mps are preparing to debate whether or not to approve controversial plans to build a 3rd runway. the conservatives have been ordered to support the expansion — but labour is opposed to the scheme. with me now isjock lowe — a former ba pilot and the director of ‘heathrow hub‘ — who propose an extension of
heathrow‘s existing northern runway. i am also joined by cait hewitt — the deputy director the aviation environment federation — who says that any expansion will be incompatible with climate change legislation. welcome both. i will ask you both the same question. what is on the table is a third runway, where do you stand specifically on that? the third runway as proposed isn‘t a good idea. it costs too much. it has no way of guaranteeing meeting the climate change agreement or emissions. and it‘s money up front. the other scheme i proposed, and the gatwick scheme, suggests building in phases. so if it didn‘t meet climate change, or if the demand wasn‘t there, you could hold it, you could stop. you support the expansion argument. yes, how you do it. of all of the plans put forward they have chosen the most expensive. and it is
at highest risk of not being delivered. where do you stand, cait? we are opposed to it. there are big environmental questions the government has failed to answer. not least among them climate change, what impact this would have on our climate change commitments. and legal obligations. and our capacity to bea legal obligations. and our capacity to be a climate leader going forward. the government has had years to look at this issue. they've come up with really no answer on how to fit a third runway into our climate change act. does that mean come in your mind, no to expansion wherever, orjust to this proposal? it makes little effect on the climate where expansion takes place. what are talking about is the extent to which the aviation sector as a whole can play its part in its
obligations. we would be opposed to a new runway certainly. let's go further. going back to the proposal you favour, jock, which would be slightly more than doubling the length of the existing northern runway, how would that work in practice? simply, you land at one end of the runway and take off at the other end. is it dangerous? not at all. the concept is safer than the three runway proposals and the way they tend to operate. we‘ve done a full safety case. quite amazingly he threw haven‘t done a caa safety case at all. that would still eat up a significant amount of land currently being used for something else. most of it isn't. that is why we proposed building there. i took off from there the years, and that‘s
the only spot you can do it without destroying lots of other things in the process. how would the m25 fit into that? we would build it off—line, like a bypass, overnight change the white lines and the crash barriers. you can‘t do that with the other proposals, for which there are no plans on how to do it. if i may make a comment on carbon dioxide and climate change overall, you‘ve got to remember that aviation only produces 4% of the total. so the solution to climate change, which i am wholeheartedly in agreement with, is not to do with aviation. let me explore that with you, cait, because chris grayling has been talking about cleaner aircraft, technological improvements, which will continue in the future, is that not at least part of the problem being addressed, as you see it? there is no doubt we will get more efficient aircraft as time goes on. the problem is they are not coming
on stream fast enough. they are not giving a big enough c02 improvement to mean that we don't need to worry about growth any more. aviation is a difficult sector to decarbonise. the government knows that. that's probably why they have tried hard to avoid talking about this issue until perhaps the very last minute and why chris grayling in introducing this to climb it did not mention climate change. what about what jock said about aviation to the big picture is to it‘s true, aviation represents only a small percentage. that's partly because the large majority of the world's population cannot afford to fly. but that's a situation we are expecting to see significant change over the coming decades. we need to be aware of that. the problem is that as many other sectors are radically changing the way they are powered. we are moving
away from cold towards renewable sources of away from cold towards renewable sources of energy, away from cold towards renewable sources of energy, we're not seeing anything equivalent in the aviation sector. —— from coal. anything equivalent in the aviation sector. -- from coal. to fly aeroplanes you need hydrocarbon liquid fuel. we will always be using that. but there are multiple and large opportunities to reduce carbon dioxide in other areas, including carbon capture and storage, which is without doubt an essential. in the end the only carbon dioxide producers are —— in the end if it was only carbon dioxide producers being aircraft then we don‘t have a problem. there are other environmental issues, such as noise. there has been no study on how the noise will affect people for this particular plan that has —— is being voted on tonight. there are some
ways of mitigating the noise. but not with this plan. we clearly could have talked for longer, but we need to leave it there. thank you both. throughout the evening that debate is about to start in parliament, you will hear plenty more about it in the coming hours. in the last hour the government has refused to back a £1.3 billion tidal lagoon project in swansea bay on cost grounds. the company behind the scheme wanted subsidies similar to those for new nuclear power to build the lagoon. the business secretary, greg clarke, made the announcement in the commons in the last half an hour. the cost that would be incurred by consumers and taxpayers will be so much higher than alternative services of low carbon power that it would be irresponsible to enter into a contract with the provider. securing our energy needs into the future must be done seriously. and where much cheaper alternatives exist no individual project or particular technology can proceed at
any price. that is true of all technologies. 0ur wales correspondent, tomos morgan, is in swansea. what will people there make of this? widespread disappointment here today. the council leader just widespread disappointment here today. the council leaderjust came out to say huge disappointment for swa nsea out to say huge disappointment for swansea because this created a lot ofjobs, infrastructure, swansea because this created a lot of jobs, infrastructure, and swansea because this created a lot ofjobs, infrastructure, and a boost to the local economy. ijust spoke to the local economy. ijust spoke to the local economy. ijust spoke to the company that has been leading this project. emotional, very disappointed, they said this project wasn‘t all over but they were unhappy with the way they have been treated over the last 18 months, saying they haven‘t had the dialogue they expected from the uk government. they are also saying they spent a significant amount of money on this project so far and are willing to go the extra mile if they need to make it work in some other way. local assembly members in the welsh government have reacted immediately, saying this is a huge disappointment for south wales and the swansea region that this project
will not be built here in the bay behind mejust here. welsh tories are also unhappy. before this announcement they were backing the proposal and they were expecting it and hoping it would come through. there have also been calls for resignation for the welsh secretary because this deal isn‘t happening. thanks very much. the heathrow debate is just starting thanks very much. the heathrow debate isjust starting in thanks very much. the heathrow debate is just starting in the thanks very much. the heathrow debate isjust starting in the house of commons. i think you can see the figure standing at the dispatch box. i think chris grayling, the transport secretary, is indeed on his feet! there he is. let‘s take a listen. this doesn‘t comply final consent. but what it does is set the policy to which an expansion of heathrow airport can deliver more detailed design and participate in the detailed planning process that can
lead to final consent. i would like to thank the many honourable members and right honourable members across the house who have gone on the record to export expansion heathrow, and have made significant effort to persuade others. this is a divisive debate for many. it also a debate where there is strong support across the whole house for what i believe isa the whole house for what i believe is a really important step for our nation. i‘m grateful to all of those who have been involved in supporting the way forward that i believe is right for our country. i'm grateful to my right honourable friend for giving way. when he talks about divisiveness. i would say that i think this is well overdue. i know it isn‘t on the cards but i would support a fourth and fifth runway, actually, at heathrow, and at gatwick. does my right honourable friend accept that just as with
gatwick. does my right honourable friend accept thatjust as with hs2, when constituency matters come into theissueit when constituency matters come into the issue it is understandable why some people feel they are unable to vote for this government motion. and mightfind vote for this government motion. and might find themselves called away. vote for this government motion. and might find themselves called awaylj would never criticise any member of this house for representing the views of their constituents. whatever position we may hold in this house, in government, in opposition, we are all ultimately constituency mps and it is absolutely right we share the issues our constituents face. i would also like to thank those outside the house. it‘s unusual i find myself campaigning on the same side of the argument as len mccluskey of unite. but the trade unions have been strong supporters, as have business leaders up and down the country in all corners of the uk. i'm grateful to the secretary of state and i
shalljoin him in the lobbies tonight because i think the third ru nway tonight because i think the third runway is a piece of infrastructure of national importance that will benefit the whole nation. but what he mustn‘t do is increase the disparity of wealth and income between the regions of this country and london and the south east. can he tell the house what extra investment he will put into the region to make sure they can make their contribution? because it cannot be right at a time when this investment will cause a lot of public expenditure in the south—east, that manchester airport is expected to pay for the station for hs2. is expected to pay for the station for h52. i take that on board. manchester airport is a great success story and a great international success story. i‘ve been working with the airport management to help it expand its
expertise internationally and will continue to do that. to reassure him, the region of the country that will secure the highest proportion of government spending on transport in the next few years is the north—west. that‘s right and proper. it isa north—west. that‘s right and proper. it is a continued sign of our commitment to make improvements in the north of our country which are long overdue. the secretary of state is right. members of parliament have a duty to stand up for their constituents and i shall do that. can he clarify, with the expansion of heathrow that now put an end to the daft vestry airport idea, and a long—term provision in air capacity can be mounted at gatwick. the airports commission looked carefully at the estuary airport concept. proved it wasn‘t viable. i made this suggestion. in estuary
airport would not be a viable option. thank you for giving way. in terms of the benefits for the regions does he accept that this opens up the opportunity for over 5000 jobs to northern ireland, £5 billion of economic growth, a £10 million airline development programme, and a logistics hub that is based in northern ireland will increase productivity, jobs, and make northern ireland a key part of this development programme. i think the contribution that this project would make to the economy in all parts of the uk. the development hub concept at heathrow has been promoting. i know the honourable gentleman has a keen eye on making sure it involves his constituency. i cannot make promises. but i know will complete continue to make that —— buti will complete continue to make that —— but i know he will continue to
make that point. does he accept it will be an open liberal economy, and for that we need an airport that can compete with other international airports? 0n the issue of regions does he accept that birmingham airport also has a part to play over the skies of the uk. before those two questions have been answered in that intervention. may i say to the house, first of all interventions should be short and should make one point. otherwise it's not fair to the people at the end of this incredibly long list of speakers i have here, and those who are making interventions now, at great length, are taking time away from the people who will be trying to speak having sat hereafter 9p. and there are lots of conversations going on around the chamber. perhaps people negotiating which way they are going to vote this evening. —— here after 9pm. if
they wish to do so, perhaps do it more quietly or somewhere else because the rest of the house wishes to hear the secretary of state. i will make some progress. i know lots of people want to contribute. what i would say to my honourable friend is that this is absolutely crucial to the united kingdom as a whole. he‘s right, birmingham airport is probably the most directly affected. but hs2 arriving there will make fantastic connections, as well. ourforecast shows all regional airports growing. that is an indication that we need to provide the capacity at heathrow. and we can do so without damaging the prosperity of the regions. it will enhance them as connections improve. my right honourable friend should be commended for finally, improve. my right honourable friend should be commended forfinally, at
long last, bringing forward this vital measure of national infrastructure. while, according to sir howard davies, london and the south—east will benefit to the tune of £150 billion. the north, birmingham, and the rest of the country, will be benefited by the tune of nearly £8 billion. he's right. it‘s interesting how much support there has been from around the whole of the uk. there isn‘t a single regional airport that has opposed the expansion of heathrow. i‘ve talked to visitors screwed up and down the country, all of whom support this expansion at heathrow, because they believe it will make a difference. i will give way. very grateful. whilst airport expansion is crucial to our economic success does he accept that in 2014 u nfortu nate does he accept that in 2014 unfortunate changes to the pattern of aviation movements from heathrow without consultation have created a
much worse situation for noise over my constituency, adjacent to the other constituencies. will he ensure there will be a noise reduction programme in place from now, because we don‘t like the existing level of noise, let alone an expanded one. we intend to move quickly ahead with setting up the independent noise monitoring body, which is needed to make sure the rules are kept to. in addition, i believe the modernisation of airspace, and enforcement on how airspace is used means we can give communities more relief and avoid the kind of change that has affected his constituency. i will work with him and make sure theissue i will work with him and make sure the issue he is concerned about is addressed in the future. i want to make more progress. then further interventions. the need for an additional runway in the south—east is greater than ever. and the reason we have to do this, all five of
london‘s main airports will be full by mid—20 20s and 20 30s. heathrow is already at full capacity. we are seeing business leave the uk and go to airports like frankfurt, amsterdam, paris, that have made additional capacity provision. if you sit with your plane finder app, you sit with your plane finder app, you can see where people are travelling, we are losing connections to other countries. and we are losing the investment that goes around those connections to other countries. that‘s an important pa rt other countries. that‘s an important part of why this expansion is necessary. i also need to be clear that this is not at the expense of growth of our other airports. it is simply not the case that other airports will lose business as a result of this. all of our forecasts show that every airport around the uk will continue to grow and expand.
this group represents 40 airports. it says the expansion will mean other airports have access to reliable routes to destinations around the world. without the expansion none of the airports will continue to experience that growth. importantly continue to experience that growth. importa ntly they will continue to experience that growth. importantly they will have the capacity to... i give way. this is more about the constituencies of heathrow and surrounding. it is more about connectivity for the others. belfast city, belfast international, and londonderry airports will gain by some 15% of domestic routes. will be increasing numbers be 15%? my expectation is we will see substantial growth. i would not put an exact figure on it myself. but i would use the psa mechanisms to set aside a percentage for links around
the united kingdom. —— pso. and will use the pso mechanisms so that airport in northern ireland, already successful, benefit from this. the same way we will do for scotland, the south—west, other airports in the south—west, other airports in the north, and north wales, where this can make a difference. studio: the debate is under way in parliament. several more hours of that to come. you get a sense of how many members of parliament want to make their points. they are talking about different nations of the uk and different regions of the uk even at this early stage. you can continue watching that on bbc parliament. the result of it will be here on bbc news at around ten this evening. that‘s all to o‘clock this evening. that‘s all to come, in the meantime let‘s check on the weather. it has been a pretty warm day, the warmest of the year so far. there is more warm, even hot weather to come,
and plenty of sunshine. the sunshine through the rest of the week will be strong. high uv levels. and high pollen levels over the next few days. back to now, late sunshine to enjoy this evening, if you‘re just getting a chance to get out and about. and overnight we will be under clear, starry skies. extra cloud comes in from the north sea towards coastal districts of eastern scotla nd towards coastal districts of eastern scotland and eastern england. a cool night to the south—east, but warmer the further south and west are you go. plenty of blue skies and sunshine on tuesday. cloud plaguing the north sea coast. if you are heading to the beach, you might get stuck with cloudy, misty, murky conditions. not as warm as it has beenin conditions. not as warm as it has been in london today. but parts of scotla nd been in london today. but parts of scotland even getting into the mid—20s. plenty of hot sunshine to come between now and then.
the lead firefighter at the grenfell tower fire says he wasn‘t trained in evacuating people from a burning tower block. through cladding and it wasn‘t checked at an earlier safety inspection. that is something that i didn't look at. i wasn't aware of... and knowing what i know now, it is certainly something i would have looked at without a doubt. today‘s evidence raises serious questions about london fire brigade and its ability to keep people safe in tower blocks. also tonight... mps are debating now on whether to approve a controversial third runway at heathrow. police injamaica say they are still trying to find a motive for the murder of a british couple. and england are back in training after their record—breaking triumph against panama yesterday.