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now on bbc news, it's time for tuesday in parliament. hello, and welcome to tuesday in parliament. on this programme, the chancellor announces mark carney is to extend his term as governor of the bank of england. he will continue until the end of january 2020 in order to help support continuity in our economy during this period. mps debate the government's latest counterterrorism plans and the bbc director—general tells mps the future of free tv licences for the over 75s is to to be reviewed. there's a load of options and we are not in the position to say in all honesty what the right option would be. but first, mark carney is to stay in his job tilljanuary 2020, in order to give continuity during what philip hammond says could be a turbulent time.
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mark carney has in the past been criticised by pro—brexit mps for taking in their view too pessimistic an approach to the uk's exit on the eu. the governor had been due to step down injune. the news came in answer to a question from the chair of the treasury committee. can my right honourable friend indicate to the house when he expects to be able to let us know about discussions he's been having with the current holder of that post about extending his position? not let because he will have important views about wage growth and inflation. i know, mr speaker, that he does have such views. since my right honourable friend asked me, i know her committee questioned the governor on this subject last week, i can can now announce to the house that i have been discussing with the governor his ability to be able to serve a little longer in post in order to ensure continuity through what could be quite a turbulent period for our economy in the early summer of 2019. i can tell the house today
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that the governor has agreed, despite various personal pressures, to conclude his term injune. he will continue until the end ofjanuary 2020, in order to help support continuity in our economy during this period. the shadow chancellorjohn mcdonald turned to brexit. there are only weeks to go now until a deal must be agreed with our european partners. but there are still are mixed messages coming from government ministers. the foreign secretary says crashing out of the eu without a deal would be "a mistake we would regret for generations." the brexit secretary says "no deal would bring countervailing opportunities" and the prime minister says "it would not be the end of the world." the chancellor has a critical role to play in bringing rationality to this debate, the treasury has captivated no deal could result in the uk's gdp being
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over 10% smaller. will he outline, and be absolutely clear, to some of his colleagues today, what that would mean forjobs, for wages, investment, and living standards? mr speaker, there is no ambiguity at all about the government's objective. it wants to strike a deal with the eu based on the white paper that we have published, which we believe will be good for britain and good for the european union. we are devoting all our efforts over the coming weeks and months to securing that deal and protecting the british economy. time is running out. increasingly, people on all sides of this issue are feeling let down, so let me put this to the chancellor, can we both try and get the message across to the prime minister — who continues to insist that no deal is better than — no deal is better than now... to insist that a bad deal
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is better than no deal. i will negotiate that again. "a bad deal is better than no deal." business organisations are clear. the cbi‘s warning of a catastrophe, the national farmers union says it would be an armageddon scenario and, according to the tuca, a no—deal brexit would be devastating for working people. can i appeal to the chancellor — he knows the consequences of no deal, will he now show some leadership and make it clear to his colleagues that he will not accept a no—deal scenario? first of all, i would love to know what it actually said on his bit of paper. laughter let me be very clear. i, the prime minister, all members of the cabinet, are committed to achieving a deal, which protects britishjobs,
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protects british businesses and british prosperity going forward. that is what we are committed to. he's absolutely right that time is running out. we are working against the clock, we understand that and we will be working flat out over the coming weeks and months to achieve that. philip hammond. a bill that would force facebook and other online companies to clamp down on hateful and extremist material, by making them responsible for their content, has won the initial approval of mps. the former shadow education secretary, labour's lucy powell, said, unlike newspapers, online forums largely operated outside the law. 0nline hate crimes are still rarely prosecuted, and largely go unreported. 0ur laws desperately need to catch up. today, i am proposing a small step on establishing clear accountability in law for what is published on online forums, forcing those who run the forums to no longer permit hate, disinformation and criminal activity. she said the majority of facebook
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groups operate harmlessly but some operated in secret and had games that were hateful, racist or sexist. she had an example. marines united was a secret group of 50,000 current or ex—service men from the us and british militaries. members used the forum to share nude photos of their fellow servicewomen, described by a whistle—blower as revenge porn, creepy stalker—like photos taken of girls in public. talk about rape and a racist comments. that it was allowed to grow to a membership of tens of thousands before anyone thought something has to be done demonstrates the need for greater transparency. lucy powell won the right to take her bill forward but unless the government backs it, it's unlikely to become law. mps spend the evening debating the government's latest plans to tackle terrorism. the counterterrorism and border security bill would make it an offence for a uk national
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or resident to enter or remain in a designated area overseas that posed a security risk. unless they left within a month, or had an excuse for being there, they could be jailed for ten years. the security minister explained why the law needed to be changed. the new offence is necessary for two primary reasons. firstly, to strengthen the government's consistent travel advice to british nationals, which is advised against all travel to areas of conflict where there is a risk of terrorism. and, secondly, breaching a travel ban and triggering the offence provides police and crown prosecution service with a further tool to investigate and prosecute those who returned from designated areas to the united kingdom. thereby protecting the public from wider harm. some mps were not convinced the powers were needed. as he says, we already have quite a lot of offences with extraterritorialjurisdiction and clause five of this bill is adding to them. so many of us are concerned
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about the necessity of this amendment. what can he do to convince us that it is necessary and proportionate given the plethora of extraterritorial offences that already exist? i think the first thing i would say is we have 400 people in this country who have returned from activity in terrorist hotspots, many of whom we believe through intelligence have been active but we have been unable to prosecute. that's a serious number of people, a number of them continued to pose a threat. and we have not been able to, despite quite a lot of effort and looking, to find evidence to bring to the court to prosecute them for the terrorist activity they may have been involved in. others thought they were long overdue. it is patently obvious that many of the people who we knew were travelling, brits who were travelling to iraq and syria, had no other reason to be there other than to support terror.
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but there was not sufficient evidence to do so, hence 400 of them by the government's own estimate coming back largely without prosecution. i cannot tell you how frustrating it is to see what i see with some very dangerous people coming back to our communities, and i am longing to be able to prosecute them. very often, the critics of, "you've done nothing," don't provide an alternative suggestion. labour said it would scrutinise the changes in the house of lords but offered the government the benefit of the doubt for now. nonetheless, madam deputy speaker, i accept that as legislators we must look to deal with the threat that foreign fighters pose to this country when they return and i'm not proposing that the opposition oppose this measure this evening. however imperfect legislation can be, i do say that the rule of law is paramount.
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if we ever sacrifice the rule of law, if we undermine our own values in dealing with those who seek to destroy them, then we love ourselves to the level of their barbarism. the government's proposal was approved by 292 votes to a7. you're watching tuesday in parliament with me, alicia mccarthy. the director—general of the bbc, tony hall, appeared in front of the culture, media and sport committee and told them the future of free tv licences for the over 75s is to be reviewed. the scheme is scheduled to pass the corporation £725 million a year, but is due to end in its current form in 2020. lord hall told mps they had yet to make a decision on what happened. the current concession on over 75s licence fees as we know it today will not be delivered into the 2020s, it will be replaced
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by something which is different. to be absolutely truthful with you, it could be the same, you know, the board could say we willjust continue with it as it is, it could be reformed, there is a whole load of options, and we are just not any position at the moment to say in all honesty what the right option would be and, anyway, we have got to have a proper proper public consultation about all of that and what we do. i think that is something the board is very mindful of and will make a decision about at some point in the autumn and winter. lord hall was also asked about the future of this very programme. 0ur friday round—up of the last seven days, the week in parliament. is it important bbc parliament should continue to have an edited daily programme looking back on what happened that day in parliament and an edited weekly programme doing the same? these formats are produced a radio but do you feel they should continue on bbc parliament?
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i do, i also think we should be looking at other ways in which we can attract people to what parliament is doing. it's been put to me that there is a plan that bbc parliament will cease producing edited programmes and willjust effectively broadcast live footage from the lords and commons, but from what you have said in your previous answer, it sounds like that's not the case? can you just confirm that? i want the edited programmes to continue. let me just say, we are constantly reviewing what we do and looking at, as anne and i have been saying, we have got to make £800 million savings by the end of the charter period and we are well on the way. therefore we keep looking at, should we do this or that, could be do this better or more effectively, but don't read into that necessarily something that we intend to do. the government has been urged to suspend arms sales to saudi arabia. mps held an emergency debate on the
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war in yemen. the united nations estimates that in august alone, around 980 civilians, including around 300 children, were killed or injured in the conflict. the chair of international development committee demanded ministers give a stronger condemnation of the violence in the region. the country is in the midst of a civil war that has been going on since 2014. spain has recently cancelled an arms deal with saudi arabia over concerns that these weapons are being used in the war in yemen. there is already a live debate in the united states about american arms sales to the coalition. can i once again today urge the government to look to suspend arms sales by the uk that could be used in yemen? would you not agree that this is by matter of the? the criteria to seize says very clearly that licence should not be granted if there is a clear risk the items might be used in the commission of a series of violations the violations happened in august, are they not further proof that breaches of humanitarian are being
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committed by the coalition? i think my our honourable friend for this and pay tribute to the role he has played in this. i absolutely share his view, i know there are different views in the house and we have a fundamental difference in the committees of arms exports controls in the previous parliament, but i share his view, and i fear that our approach to this as the country undermines our credibility as a force for good down the road. in his considerations and going to that conclusion, does he give any weight to the tens of thousands of aerospace skilled workers, their communities and families who depend on the military aircraft, let alone the whole supply chain which is wholly important for our industry? i will be thinking about them as well? we have signed up to a set of laws
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and our own country and europe, and international arms control. we have taken the lead of this in internationalfora. and those laws and rules have very little meaning if we are not prepared to enforce them and enforce them consistently. august was tragically one of the most violent months so far in this conflict. in the first nine days of august alone, it is estimated that over 450 civilians lost their lives, including 131 children. nine days, 131 children. shadow foreign secretary also focus on the impact on children. she told mps about one attack that had killed three boys from the same family who had been on a school trip when their bus was hit. he was in the same street as the bus
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when he returned from its trip, which was when the saudi missiles struck. he rushed to the scene, despite his own pain and shock, to try to help the survivors. and when he turned over the body of one young boy, with his blue unicef rucksack still on his back, he saw that it was his own 11—year—old little boy, ahmed. over the next few hours, he discovered his two other children on the bus had also been killed. and he had to break the news to their mother. the hardest news to tell her, he said, was about their nine—year—old boy, and when he finally discovered his body, he brought them home and his mother held him like they would hold any child after a trip. but with a nine—year—old, she held onto his lifeless body
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because she could not let go. we must obtain a cease—fire, and it is clear to me and many others that there will be no cease—fire while we continue to supply arms. spain have already cancelled their contracts, canada has spoken about it, and there are concerns being raised in the united states. we cannot turn a blind eye to this, madam deputy speaker. the minister said the uk government would do what i can to bring all sides to the negotiating table, and would continue to provide humanitarian aid. we have provided £170 million of financial aid this year, bringing total aid to yemen. our support this year will meet the immediate food needs for 24 5 million yemenis, and provide safe water, shelter, and emergency livelihoods to vulnerable communities across the country. there is no one here who wishes to see this conflict go on. i wish with all my heart there was a simple answer to it,
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but there is not. we will remain engaged with all those, including those who are parties at his event in the conflict, to do all we can to help them appreciate that the longer this conflict goes on, the more of a quagmire it is. and we give advice to our friends and those who have implements. not a lie is being shown on the threats to our oceans. mps on the environmental audit committee heard it was a crucial time for our seas. 0ur oceans are in trouble. we welcome this inquiry, it is incredibly timely, and i look at blue planet, and growing political interest, this is the time to really fix the problems in the oceans. msc is singularly ambitious, we want to see global fisheries sustainable. the sustainability of scottish salmon farming, and whether or not chemicals used to kill off the lights were damaging lobsters, crabs, and prawns. can i ask about the
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problem about sea lice? when they were at in their two years ago, he was showing examples of them being taken further offshore to limit the sum of the effects we have heard. the first thing we need to know is how bad it actually is the problem of sea lice in scottish salmon farms? is it widespread, orjust particular locations? in most farms, the lice will rise. some farmers manage to control the lice numbers, others don't. an example on lewis is where they haven't, the lice levels rose to 12 times the threshold the number of adult female lice. that is an enormous number, if you add up the number of fish in the cage. but not everyone agreed, another witness at the committee told mps such claims have been sensationalized.
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now peers have given their initial approval to the trade bill. it sets up a key measure is needed for a future trade policy for the uk once we leave the eu. when the bill is in the commons, a move to keep the uk in a customs union with the eu was only narrowly defeated. in the lords, the trade minister outlined some of its aims. it seeks the power to ensure we can implement existing continuity agreements with trading partners, both full freak trade agreements and other agreements related to trade. secondly, it seeks the powers to ensure that we can become an independent member of the wto's agreement on government procurement, so that uk businesses don't lose access to a £1.3 trillion market. thirdly, it seeks powers to establish the trade remnant best remedy authority to protect domestic industries from unfair and damaging trade practises. and fourthly, it lets the government gather and share
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information on trade. but labour argued the government had missed the opportunity to put forward more than just the technical bill, and once again pressed the case from customs union with the eu. the reason, my lords, simple. the customs union could arrive for frictionless trade with the eu, and offers the best possible basis for dealing successfully with the irish border issue. it could also pave the way for access to over 50 trade agreements with third countries. together, these markets account for 62% of uk goods and services, exports in 2016. lord rochester. finally, staying in the lords, peers wanted to know what plans are being made to commemorate the 75th anniversary of d—day and the battle of arnhem, up in 2019. the question was asked by a trustee of the imperial war museum. 1944 was the turning point of the second world war, and the brave troops who landed on d—day, alongside those who fight casino
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were absolutely crucial for the liberation of europe. as my friend aware of the 75th anniversary of these battles is likely to be the last significant anniversary while we were are lucky enough to have veterans of those campaigns among us? does my noble friend agree that it is essential that their voices and needs must therefore be central to the commemorations, and can she give us a progress report on plans for the british normandy memorial, which you'll recall for all time the names of the service personnel who gave their lives of the battle of normandy so they will be? but the service community as a whole, and will remain so for the forthcoming commemorations. 0n the matter of the normandy memorial... who support the trust, the trust has submitted many complex details required by the french planters who are mindful of the sensitivities of a development on this exceptional site. and that process, including a public
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inquiry, is expected to take the remainder of this year lot i think the noble lord for his reference to the normandy memorial trust, of which i am a chairman. and i can report to the house that we have secured an inspiring site looking down over gordon beach, and we will be holding a first ceremony to inaugurate that site, but not yet a full memorial on d—day next year. with the noble baroness and mr agree that a british national memorial bringing together the names of all those who fell under british command, alongside the commonwealth war graves, will bear an important message for future generations about the sacrifices of those who made our freedoms today possible? i do agree, and i think none of us will ever forget the momentous sacrifice by those who fought
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and died during the normandy campaigns, and because it is unique, the british d—day in normandy memorial recognises in a fitting manner that enormous contribution. my formidable father—in—law commanded the british first airborne division at arnhem, there are two points i would like to make to the baroness. the first is this, there is already in existence an annual pilgrimage to arnhem, which has only been sustained because of the generosity and hospitality of the local community. were there to be a more elaborate event, it would surely be necessary to ensure that the local community was not overshadowed by such an event. the second point is this.
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if there is to be an elaborate commemoration, i hope that due regard would be paid to the polish airborne brigade... which suffered a grievous losses, and his contribution to arnhem is frequently ignored. she said that was an important and relevant point, and she was sure it would be noted. and that's it from me for now. dojoin me on bbc parliament on wednesday night at 11pm for the next round up of the day here at westminster, including the highlights for prime minister's questions. but for now from me, alyssa mccarthy, goodbye. hello there. a full uk weather forecast coming up in a moment, but first of all, the latest on that massive hurricane that's heading towards the eastern side
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of the united states. it is of course hurricane florence. it is a category four hurricane, four out a five—point scale. sustained winds of 140 mph, but is forecast to strengthen, with wind gusts getting up to 185mph over the next 24 hours or so. it's going to make landfall friday morning in north carolina, but the effects will be felt up and down the mid—atlantic coast, with a risk of flooding and those damaging winds as well. here in the uk, we've got a cold front sinking its way slowly southwards today, and that's going to have an effect on the temperatures. yesterday we saw highs of 25 degrees in both london and exeter as well, but today we are looking at highs of around 18 degrees. so a 7 degrees celsius drop in temperature, not that it will feel cold, but feel a good deal cooler. this is how we have the weather over the next few hours for the early risers. a lot of cloud around and outbreaks of rain. always heaviest across north—west
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england and the north—west of wales as well, but there will be plenty of heavy showers working into north—west scotland over the next few hours, with a slice of clearer weather across northern ireland, northern england and eastern scotland. it's here where we will have those temperatures dipping down into single figures. mild, though, further south. 15 degrees the low in london. looking at the weather picture through the rest of wednesday, our cold front sinks its way southwards, the rain becomes increasingly light and patchy, but there will probably some left over across parts of south—east england well into the afternoon. there'll be some blustery showers for western scotland, but in between, a slice of sunnier weather. but the temperatures a good deal lower in the south, highs expected to reach 18 celsius. looking at the weather picture to wednesday evening and overnight, our rain clears away from south—east england. heavy rain comes into the north—west of scotland, but there will be some clearer skies for the bulk of england and wales, and it's going to be one of the cooler nights that we have seen so far this september, with temperatures across eastern parts of england around 3 or 4 degrees in the coldest areas.
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quite a chilly start of the day on thursday but there will be plenty of sunshine around here. a band of rain pushes southwards across scotland and northern ireland, weakening as it does so. just a few spots possible into cumbria to take us into the afternoon, but for many of us it is a dry day, showers again affecting western parts of scotland, though. temperatures in the sunshine, about 15 degrees for aberdeen and edinburgh, 21 degrees in london. bit more sunshine, so starting to feel warmer. reasonable sunshine across southern england as we head through the weekend, but there will be some heavy outbreaks of rain across the north and west of the uk this weekend. that's your weather. welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to viewers in north america and around the globe. my name is reged ahmed. our top stories: it's being called "a vicious monster and a threat to life." america's east coast gets ready for the might of hurricane florence. we are sparing no expense, we are totally prepared, we are ready. we are ready as anybody has ever been. china's president says the relationship with russia is more important than ever, as they hold joint military exercises for the first time. brazil's jailed former president
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