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this is bbc news. the headlines at eight: the head of the european council tells theresa may her brexit plan is not acceptable. the suggested framework for economic cooperation will not work. mostly because it will be undermining the single market. but the prime minister inisits her plan is the only serious credible way to avoid a hard border in northern ireland. there is a lot of work to be done. and we'll be doing that over the next few and what we would try it for the mccartney is delivering for the british people. —— what will drive me is delivering. thousands of cancellations and chaos on the railways over the summer — an investigation concludes the problem was that nobody took charge. at least three people have been killed, and others wounded, after a gun—woman opened fire at an industrial unit in the us state of maryland. police say the suspect is now in custody. councils in england warn that the worst is yet to come for cuts to many services — including children's — unless the government intervenes.
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the world anti—doping agency lifts it's ban on russia, imposed over the scandal surrounding state—sponsored cheating.. good evening. the prime minister has failed to get eu leaders to back her so—called chequers plan for brexit. at the end of a two day summit in austria, theresa may was told a crucial part of it — the proposed new economic partnership with the eu — would not work. the head of the european council, donald tusk, said her plans risked undermining the eu's single market. but the prime minister said her proposals were the "only serious credible" way to avoid a hard border in the northern ireland. our political editor laura kuenssberg reports from salzburg.
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following her every move, every step matters. in this spectacle, neither side wants to budge. no. there is no progress. there is only position explained. stand—off still is in place. as long as there is no deal, there is a risk of no deal. but i think we all want to work towards a deal, and i still think it is achievable. she'd hoped for more thanjokey small talk. the prime minister wanted at least a polite reception for her brexit compromise, the so—called chequers plan. but theyjust don't like her idea to keep part of the economy close to the eu and to try to preserve the border between ireland and northern ireland as it is. don't doubt — this is one against 27. from the german chancellor,
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a polite rebuff. "substantial progress is needed." the french president said the proposals were not acceptable, and those who said britain could leave easily were liars. then, from the boss of the european leaders club, few words about a promising start or interesting idea. the uk plan will not stand. everybody shared the view that while there are positive elements in the chequers proposal, the suggested framework for economic cooperation will not work. how could she walk back from that rejection? remember, many of her party at home hate her brexit plan too. theresa may could not pretend this afternoon that nothing had changed. instead, she was cross
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and frustrated. our white paper remains the only serious and credible proposition on the table. so with the eu against your plan, with large chunks of your party at home against your plan, how can you credibly cling onto the deal you struck at chequers with your cabinet? well, look. i'm negotiating, and i'm negotiating hard in the interests of the british people. yes, concerns have been raised. i want to know what those concerns are. there's a lot of hard work to be done, but i believe there is a willingness to do a deal. but let nobody be in any doubt that, as i've always said, we are preparing for no deal. have the chances for no dealjust gone up? we are continuing to work for a good deal. i think you will have heard both president donald tusk and a number of the eu leaders say they are looking and hoping and working to that good deal. but there's a lot of work to be done.
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it certainly is, prime minister. more heat from rival forces trying to force her to ditch her plan. it's looking very clear that it will be very, very difficult to deliver a chequers strategy that will meet their requirements, so it's time for a reset, time for a rethink. the prime minister can't, and won't, step away from her proposals yet. but the choreography of doing the deal today has gone badly wrong. there's plenty of evidence they all want to do a deal, but much less proof that they actually can. and it's not dramatic to say that how theresa may can resolve her differences with the rest of her counterparts from the continent will have an effect on how we all live our lives for years and years to come. the uk is on its way out of this club, but theresa may is finding this a long and lonely way out.
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our political correspondent is in westminster, alex forstyh. what does this mean? there is really no doubt that the government didn't get what they wa nted government didn't get what they wanted from the summit, partly perhaps a failure of expectation management going into this meeting of the leaders, there have been a lot of talks about a possible shift in tone and some warm words from the eu 27 and a bit more optimism about the possibility of a gel that we have saw before. what we heard is that stern talking to from donald tusk kawai simply said elements of chequers will not work. that will undoubtedly emboldened theresa may's critics in her own party who are ready fiercely opposed to the chequers plan. remember, all of this is happening just a week or so before a really crucial conservative
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party conference. it has been thought that eu leaders would give theresa may a little bit of the groups going into the conference and help her out of it, quite the opposite has happened. now her brexit critics will say your plan looks dead in the water and you have to chop the plan. she is digging in and what is interesting about all of this and theresa may suggested the european union will be using tactics by ce na european union will be using tactics by cena limits of chequers woodwork and that no doubt there is a bit of preparation because this is a negotiation. but after the summit, theresa may is in a worse position than she suddenly had hoped to be and it does make the domestic political front that much harder to navigate. that idea of chucking chequers, she has made quite clear thatis chequers, she has made quite clear that is really the only plan that she has to put forward. she it is the only plan of the table. that is right to some extent. the other one number ten has put forward but there are people that say there are alternatives. and that the uk could
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pursue a free—trade agreement. other schools of thoughts that the uk could stay in the single market and customs union by membership of the economic error oi’ customs union by membership of the economic error or similar, so i think what theresa may critics will hope is that by increasingly the number of voices saying the plan is not workable including now the yvon sanquer leigh eu she may be forced to pursue one of those other options but at the moment she certainly is not going down that path because both options are equally politically fraught, whichever way she turns he is facing a roadblock. i think the backstage of this is to get to the tory party conference and then will be about trying to negotiate with brussels to overcome some of really difficult areas in the question of the irish border in the question of future economic partnerships, neither of which at this very late stage have been anywhere near resolved. thank you, alex. tomorrow on bbc news. with six months to go until the uk leaves the eu how will brexit affect your health? our health editor hugh pym will be here just after 11:30
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in tomorrow's newsroom live. to get involved, you can text your questions to 61124, email to askthis@bbc.co.uk, or on twitter using the hashtag bbcaskthis. and we'll find out how this story and many others are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10:40 this evening in the papers. our guests joining me tonight are broadcaster david davies and former pensions minister, ros altmann. more from this later. looking get some breaking news coming out of tanzania. being reported by reuters, coming out that a very half sunk with fears that more than 200 people have drowned and this was on lake
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victoria. a senior local official is quoted, the commissioner has told reuters that the 42 people had already been confirmed dead and the rescue mission had been halted a p pa re ntly rescue mission had been halted apparently until dawn on friday, but fears that more than 200 people may have drowned as a result of that ferry sinking. an investigation into the weeks of chaos and thousands of cancellations across the rail network in the summer has concluded that nobody took charge. the report from the office of rail and road found there was a lack of clarity about roles and responsibilities. but the transport secretary chris grayling has denied any responsibility. our transport correspondent tom burridge reports. a big—money upgrade to our railway. passengers will benefit further down the line. but in may, it was the cause of major disruption. the work in lancashire by publicly—owned network rail got
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way behind schedule and messed up plans for new timetables. hundreds of trains cancelled on northern rail each day meant misery for passengers. it shattered their trust. liz peet has now altered her commute. since a couple of weeks ago, i've had to change my route, so i now get the bus into stockport and then get the train from stockport. i just can't rely on the service. today, the rail regulator said the problems on northern and on govia thameslink demonstrated a complete lack of leadership. when things started to go wrong, neither train companies, nor network rail, nor the government took control. myjob is now to make sure we have a better way going forward. your critics call you failing grayling. given the record, there is some truth in that. what we've done in the last couple of years is to proceed with an investment programme, and in many parts of the country,
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it's making a real difference. it didn't make a difference in the areas it was supposed to this summer. on the gtr network, in northern, we've got to make sure that doesn't happen again. today, the government also launched a review of the entire rail system, and those who speak for the rail operators say it needs to be bold. we know we've had a bad summer, we know we've got to improve, we know we've got to change. the industry's got a long—term plan to do with that. we're saying to government, "please work with us. let's try and do this once—in—a—generation reform to make the system work for passengers and the economy. " old infrastructure is being rooted out to modernise the network. the work on this line alone linking manchester and preston has taken years and has cost the taxpayer nearly £500 million. but for passengers, it will mean that ancient diesel trains can be phased out and replaced by faster, more reliable electric models. but the work on the bolton corridor which was the root cause of problems
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in may shows the dilemma. britain's rail network needs improving, but if upgrades cause too much disruption, they jeopardise the confidence of passengers. managing that balance is key. the mother of the westminster bridge attacker has told an inquest that she is "utterly ashamed" by what he did. khalid masood killed four people when he drove a car at pedestrians on westminster bridge in march last year. he then stabbed a police officer to death outside parliament. our home affairs correspondent, daniel sandford reports. in the days before the westminster bridge attack khalid masood was seen laughing and joking with a hotel receptionist. but today, his family described a darker more violent man. his mother had worried he would kill someone in a drunken fight. he'd spent two periods in prison for knife offences, and during that time he'd converted to islam. then the violence stopped
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but an interest in extremism began. the court heard a recording of him arguing with his wife criticising her for not supporting so—called islamic state. i never hear you say there's any good in the isis. i never hear you say that any of their people might be sincere and genuine muslims, sunnis. i never hear you say, "well, at least they're fighting against the shia, they're doing some good." today in court his wife spoke directly to relatives of the people he killed. "i'm sorry that i was not more vigilant," she said. "he made me to trust him and i have no reason to doubt him." his motherjanet ajao then recalled his last visit to her in rural wales five days before the attack and the last thing he said. "he just looked at me and said, "they'll say i'm a terrorist but i'm not."" "it sounds ridiculous now as i say this but at the time it just seemed, "what is he talking about?"" on the day of the attack she saw the ten o'clock news and then she realised. "as soon as i saw the body ijust
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knew and it made sense to me what he had said as he was leaving." janet ajao cried in court as she remembered an e—mail khalid masood had sent her in 2013 in which he'd complained about not feeling part of the family when he was growing up. "the upbringing lacked expressions of love or affection," he wrote to his mother. "to be honest, it seemed like a pretty cold and dull existence." in the minutes before khalid masood killed five people in westminster, he sent this picture to his wife and friends. it was him in mecca on a pilgrimage a few years earlier. daniel sandford, bbc news, at the old bailey. let's go back now to our top story, where theresa may has failed to get eu leaders to back her chequers plan for brexit, which comes at the end of her two day summit in austria. christian fraser is in salzburg and has been following the days events.
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hello. welcome back. i'm sure theresa may expected some pushback on her chequers plan along the way but perhaps not here in salzburg. perhaps thinking that might have come at the summit in october. but after her ten minute speech last night the first time she's been able to set out our proposal to the other 27 to leaders, what would i today was almost unanimous rejection of the plan from the eu. at least there are by scratching the head. at least everybody scratching their heads wondering where this is going next. let's try and find out what to speak to our... it was both a work—out like this. a bit where they were supposed to talk bluntly how the negotiation is going the right way. they were supposed to throw her under the bus. that's what they were not supposed to. yes but i will put a big but here because it is not news eu leaders rejected parts of
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the chequers fun. also not correct to say they reject the chequers fine. they were careful at the summit to say there were parts of the plan they liked like on the bg relationship and security between the eu and the uk. donald tusk, the chair of the the eu and the uk. donald tusk, the chairof the summit, the eu and the uk. donald tusk, the chair of the summit, the president of the european council said it was 110w of the european council said it was now a more hopeful than he has been before that bill can be reached thanks in part to the chequered flag. eu leaders were kinda falling over themselves to talk about the concessions being made it from both sides. this is been eclipsed by the unequivocal statement by donald tusk as well that there are parts of theresa may micah two important parts that are unworkable. it is not news. parts that are unworkable. it is not news. “— parts that are unworkable. it is not news. —— chequers plan. they have said this before. we knew they wanted their proposal on northern ireland and they don't find the uk proposal so far acceptable to the uk and alsojudged proposal so far acceptable to the uk and also judged to the chequers suggestion of splitting off parts of the single market for the uk. that
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is not new. what is new is the three words he used in the press conference. it will not work. they will play that on loop in clearly downing street is not happy. they are talking about outplay him using an elbow. not the form of the eu to cause political problems at home for eu leaders. no, but the leaders would say that is not their concern. their concern is to protect the eu and the single market. they say we don't want you to go uk but if you go, if you go with the red line you are suggesting, added the single market and out of the customs union, that will have consequences and they have said that all along. they don't mean consequences like punishing, they mean practical consequences like if you choose a distant relationship to us, there will be distance between us and you will have the same privileges. —— you will not have the same privileges as working close together. but you are right with what he said. not the tone don't suppose to come out of the summit at all. eu leaders want
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adele this autumn. not because they care, for theresa may or her future, but because for them and an ideal scenario would be chaotic and costly. they planned this not to compromise their principles on northern ireland or on the single market, but to make some gestures and warm words and that is what downing street is expecting and also hoping that he leaders my spin off from one another with some of them wholeheartedly embracing chequers. theresa may went out to sell it to individual countries over the summer. individual countries over the summer. that did not have been yes, the tone in the feeling that was left at the end of the summit was a better one and i think this is due to both sides miss reading and talking past each other. before we go back, can a gauge of view of this instagram picture that donald tusk has sent out? —— can i get your opinion on this. he is offering theresa may k, no cherry, i am
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baking a pond some i like the fun like the next this particular day, is that a little misjudged?” like the next this particular day, is that a little misjudged? i think this is ms. s. misreadings here. before the summit, michel barnier saidi before the summit, michel barnier said i have a new proposal on the backstop. it wasn't a real new proposal. everybody knew that. this token is the approach of coming to theresa may was a misreading of the political situations season. now we're in a game of bridge the ship and chicken and you will blink first and it is a dangerous game if both sides want to have a deal at the end of the day. i think the eu misjudged their tone and missed as the difficult situation that the prime minister finds itself and at home. and they do have to think that the no deal is very possible, although i would say at this point, they still believe a deal can be done. i'm not sure theresa may will beafan done. i'm not sure theresa may will be a fan of donald tusk instagram account. thank you. theresa may goes
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to her party conference in two weeks still can't get to that chequers fine but it will be so much easier to resist the eu if she could find some support within her own party and as we know there are remainers and as we know there are remainers and brexiteers that don't like the plan at all. thank you. sport now and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, here's hugh. we're in the midst of another night of european football. with four british clubs involved in the first game of the europa league group stage. two early games... two late... chelsea started very quickly in greece against paok salonika. willian‘s goal in the seventh minute was the only one of the game... it could have been much more. they keep up their 100% record in all competitions so far this season. there was also an early goal in rangers match. but they were 1—0 down in the first minute to villarreal in spain. scott arfield levelled things up in the second half. before steven gerrard's
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side conceded again just two minutes later. but kyle lafferty's first european goal secured a pretty impressive point with rangers' second. 2—2 it finished. the late kick offs include arsenal and celtic. they started at eight. arsenal v vorskla poltava from ukraine. still goalless. celtic are taking on norweigan champions rosenborg. also goalless. manchester city women are hoping to continue their unbeaten start to the season over three competitions. they're playing at everton ladies in the women's super league and are leading 1—0 thanks to a georgia stanway goal. while in the championship manchester united women are playing their first home game against sheffield united women and currently lead 2—0. it's a decision that's been called ‘treachery‘. and a ‘devastating blow‘.
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but wada have confirmed that the suspension of russia's anti—doping agency has been lifted. rusada have been banned for the best part of three years after evidence of state sponsored doping on a mass scale. but they've been reinstated,subject to certain conditions, with several leading anti—doping bodies and athletes objecting to the move. which was agreed by the wada executive committee today. we trusted them, they shoot it like never before, thousands of positive test in the laboratory, corruption of the olympic games, world championships over a period of yea rs, championships over a period of years, and laughed behind our backs when they got no sanction. we set clear guidelines for with the rules 110w clear guidelines for with the rules now are to come back to participate in the olympic games and all wada today said its promise to give us the documents which is now the second promise and we will let you back in. they haven't for fill that
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condition to be let back in and while we can play semantics with the admission and apology frankly is what the clean athletes of the world observed. and a clear acceptance of the past behaviour because we know that as the only way to move forward , that as the only way to move forward, to accept the behaviour and acknowledged it and do everything possible to correct it going forward and that has not happened. anthonyjoshua claims it's hisjob to "show the non drug cheat is a stronger & better fighter" as he prepares to defend his world heavyweight titles against alexander povetkin. a russian who failed two doping tests in 2016. the two meet on saturday in front of an expected sell—out at wembley stadium. the weigh in is tomorrow. there's been no trash talk in the build up. russian povetkin has promised fans a good fight and joshua thinks it'll be close. skill is a part and technique is a part, we both have a big heart and we can dig deep. that always turns out for a good five. we have both
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dug deep and stayed in and we would do the same against that of the night. but our skills on the line andi night. but our skills on the line and i think the one who is tough this will come out victorious. that's all the sport for now. i'll have more for you in sportsday at 10:30am. thank you, hugh. there's been a mass shooting at a distribution centre in the us state of maryland. local have said police said at least three people were killed in the town of aberdeen, near baltimore. residents have been warned to avoid the area. authorities say the suspect, who was female, was thought to be acting alone. the motive is unclear but terrorism is not suspected. libraries, youth clubs, transport, public health — unless the government intervenes the worst is yet to come for such services as councils are forced to make more cuts. that's the warning from the county councils network, which represents 36 larger authorities in england. it says councils have already identified £1 billion worth of cuts which will have to be made by february 2020.
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they'll include spending less on highways and transport, public health services and children's services. with me is louise goldsmith, leader of west sussex county council. also i'm joined by kay cutts, leader of nottinghamshire county council. welcome to both eu. thank you coming on. what is the situation and your counsel just now? on. what is the situation and your counseljust now? we have saved about 145 million over the last eight years, this year we have a target of 33 million, we found 24 megan of savings, 9 million to bridge the gap that is being a little bit stubborn and difficult at the moment. how to deliver to you? we've already have stepped in the happening of pounds of overspend. having to find the savings as well and we know that by twenty20 will
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have to find £54 million. it is not easy. let me stay with you on that number you just quoted. what are the most likely areas you will look for some of that money? if we close all of our children's centres and libraries that will still not be enough to find the savings we need. that would be a tragedy of course, all those other overspend this is what they go and we would be down to those status or services we have to deliver. we use a discretionary spend, outlined exactly what that means for the purposes of those who are not sure about that for a. what it means is that those things that we do not have to do by our structure from government like libraries, we do not have to provide libraries, we do not have to provide libraries, they have been provided since the korean ties. we quite a numberof since the korean ties. we quite a number of those. since the korean ties. we quite a numberof those. our since the korean ties. we quite a number of those. our children's centres, a new initiative. —— since the korea times. children who might be in dangerof the korea times. children who might be in danger of falling behind. —— victorian times. that would be a tragedy. all the extra spend for those organisations they give grants
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to, counsel funds were given small grants to councils will have little of the money to spend. two very small organisations. it would be nothing left except bolsover says we have to deliver and did big pressure points are on children, who are ready overspend this year. but £1 million and adult social care as well and about one half million pounds and other school transport. for disabled young people as well. we have given a larger act a discretionary grant for people to have their personal budgets but we are going to have a look at other area after spending we have. you mentioned a number of nine again, where are you looking to find that many? -- 9 million. we are now forced to look at things you really don't want to do. add three part of my don't want to do. add three part of don't want to do. add three part of s don't want to do. add three part of my body says i don't want to do this but every brain cell says you have
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to. —— every part of. we have been supporting our districts and boros with supporting homeless, that is a non—statutory expense for us. therefore, we have to look at that. and the pressure on our children's services considerable, we have been investing heavily in preventative work that came from david cameron initiative such as the troubled familyfunding. initiative such as the troubled family funding. that will stop. in twe nty20. family funding. that will stop. in twenty20. that is a really sad thing because what we are doing is turning around families and children and it is actually managing the demand for the future and for me i think this is crucial to maintain. we have invested heavily and we know it works and we have less young people and care than others because of this work. although we still have 600 shows in that we have to look after. so the preventative work which will help the families and children who
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we we re help the families and children who we were elected to help. —— was to have six of the children. we have to look at cutting that back and ijust think that is a crying shame. —— 600 chosen. the government says that counsel will get a increase in 2810 andi counsel will get a increase in 2810 and i couldn't talk about an insistence that the approach strikes the right balance between relieving pressure on local government and assuring taxpayers do not face excessive bills. how do you respond that? i respond in supporting everything that comes out from the ccm. this is just everything that comes out from the ccm. this isjust not everything that comes out from the ccm. this is just not to councils talking on the tv, you talk to any cou nty talking on the tv, you talk to any county council later across the country, whatever colour, they will say they have the same issue. the reason why we have these big issues is because we have two very very big budgets, the adult social care and the children's one and of course we are responsible for the children with learning disabilities and some of them are very severe. they have to have 24—hour care. we do it. but
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the demand and more reality has increased, and the demands on our children's services has grown exponentially. and so, obviously, we have to look after those people first because those are our statutory duties and what we would be normally saying, where are we going to invest in what we would do in the future. now we are going to saying where can we squeeze a little bit more. let me go back to kate. you are trying to give me a moment ago. the army read the government statement. what will puzzle some people is here you are conservative leader of a county council, implying that the central government also led by the conservatives is not listening to you. why aren't they? i'm not implying the government is not listening, find the government is beginning to a fair slice of the cake. we know that the counsellor spent another parts get more money.
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-- is spent another parts get more money. —— is not giving us a fair slice. it isa —— is not giving us a fair slice. it is a 2—tier system. and county council would have district councils in nottinghamshire, seven district councils, there cost has to come out of the amount that is predicated for head of population. for us to spend. by head of population. for us to spend. by having this 2—tier system that is very expensive and we are currently looking into whether we can have a single unitary authority and about nine counties across the country already and we think if we could do that we would not require any more income and what we would make it savings between 20 and £30 million and £30 million and i think that is worth doing. time is ended our conversation. thank you both for coming god. —— thank you both for coming god. —— thank you both for coming god. now it's time for a look at the weather with helen willetts. good evening. there will be some thoroughly miserable weather out there for the rest of the evening overnight and to the start of our friday. that is because we
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have a storm upon us. the second named storm of the season, this one associated with more torrential rain which will ease overnight and some very winds. they are picking up ahead of this torrential rain which is already brought flood warning to some parts of england and wales. soaking rain combined with those winds means bad conditions on the road. and poor visibility with fog and even with sleet over the top. for most of the ranges using by morning, but it continues to the northeast of the rush hour. and the winds continue here as well. they can get up to about 60 miles an hour gusts, which for some in the east areas are stronger than we had yesterday. it will bring down a few trees. and then the rest of the day, sunny spell a blustery showers, it will feel fresher especially in the south. goodbye. hello this is bbc news with xxxx. the headlines: in a blow to the prime minister,
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the head of the european council has told theresa may, that her plans for brexit, ‘won't work'. the suggested framework for economic corporation will not work. not least because it was undermining the single market. but the prime minister inisits her plan is the only one to ensure the integrity of the uk and frictionless trade. there's a lot of work to be done, and due to be doing that obviously over the next few weeks and what will continue to drive me will be delivering for the —— the british people. thousands of cancellations and chaos on the railways over the summer, an investigation concludes the problem was that nobody took charge. at least three people have been killed, and others wounded, after a gun—woman opened fire at an industrial unit in the us state of maryland. councils in england warn that the worst is yet to come for cuts to many services, including children's, unless the government intervenes. the world anti—doping agency has
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agreed to lift a ban imposed on russia in 2015, over allegations of state—backed cheating. the prime minister has failed to get eu leaders to back her so—called chequers plan for brexit. at the end of a two day summit in austria, theresa may was told a crucial part of it, the proposed new economic partnership with the eu, would not work. there are so many questions remaining, about what the uk's future relationship with the eu will look like after brexit. well, earlier our europe correspondent damian grammaticas had your questions put to him by my colleague clive myrie. the first question for you is from catherine who got in touch with us via e—mail and she says what are the world trade provision that would apply to trade between the eu and the uk? i'm assuming catherine means if there is no deal.
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at the end of all the talks before we leave the european union. clive, i will do my best to give an answer. this is an important question, it's a tricky one to give me some time with this one. i think what she means is the world trade organisation. this is the organisation that exists to underpin world trade rules and to help trade flow fairly and smoothly. about 160 plus countries of members so most of the world accounting for 95% of trade, so most of world trade. what does it do? it exists as a negotiating forum, a place where countries come together to agree common rules. what they do then is that they agree commitments, that's their basic commitment that they will put on the table that they will respect for everyone that they trade with, things like lowering their customs duties and opening their market access and for the eu for example for cars its basic duty is 10%,
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if you are to import a car to the eu. and the last thing that exists is this dispute resolution system. if you have a problem you basically go to fix this. so the thing to say here is that this is the basic for the foundation for trade. it underpins the eu and what it does. what countries than do is they negotiate agreements, and trade deals on top, the eu is a superior trade deal that facilitates free movement of trade. and the countries then, one of the important thing is this idea called most—favored—nation principle. so if you ball out of the eu, use that to be treated like any other country, some say this principle if you can't discriminate any country on a basic level. take cars for example, they trade relief, if the uk moves outside the eu, the eu will treat it the same as any country with which it trades a special arrangement, all trade will. so then percent tariff would apply.
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the same as for american cars. so, it's a step backwards where we are now. others point to other parts of the world trade rules which is about facilitating trade. the eu would have to make things easy, but an important part of world trade rules also are that countries can protect their own markets in order to protect consumers, protect particular sectors, agriculture sometimes are protected, to the eu can't say a car that comes in has to be checked for safety standards to check that it's safe for people inside the drive. it does not make trade free, it provides the underpinning for it. that would be the basic rules. the last thing to say is at the minute, the uk is covered by the eu's basic tariffs, that 10% on cars, if it moves outside it will have to settle its own list of schedules, a commitment in the wto, would it keep that 10% or change it as the basic level?
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that negotiation is an ongoing and is not a full process, it involves agreement with every other country, the actual basic terms the uk would have aren't yet clear. thanks for that. i'm sure catherine will be happy with that. i have got allan hougaard in touch by e—mail. he says why can't the irish border arrangements that would apply if we left on the world trade rules? good question, i think what i was just saying if you follow that logic through, the commitment at the minute is the irish border is open. it's totally free, trade flows freely, if we leave and go on to wto rules, those basic tariffs would apply, so good would have to be stopped were checked were paid a tariffs crossing the border, those standards checks, like mentioned for cars would also apply. so again they would have to be checked for standards which is why
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calling bacon wto rules does not mean the irish border could stay open. in fact, the opposite, it means that would be a border that the eu would need to apply its rules at to every country, to the uk and any other country, so it does not answer the irish border question. that's the big problem it would seem at the moment. john has got in touch, he says can you please summarise exactly what concessions, compromises the eu has made during the past 18 months of negotiations? another good question, one that quite a lot of people ask. i think a good point to a few things. you could point to the issue of money, but exits bill as it's sometimes called, the financial commitment now, on that, there had been all sorts of figures talked about, interestingly the eu itself had never pointed to one number, some estimates had put it up as high as reaching 60, 80, 100 billion,
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once the negotiation had happened, that has been put in the region of perhaps 40 billion. we still don't know because it still depends both sides say on how the negotiation, how figures would be captivated at the end of the day. but some could say it seems behind closed doors may be the eu has given a bit of ground there. another area, the idea that these negotiations were going to happen in phases. the eu was going to have all of the exit issues cleared up first including that irish border issue before he would move onto talking about future relations. remember last december, the eu to move forward, and we are still discussing the irish border. that issue was not for that outcome preview last december. there were commitments, the eu said that the enough, let's move forward.
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that is where the uk had won some ground. another area, if there is a transition period, if one does materialise, the uk had wanted to be able to do trade deals in that time, the eu had said no, the eu has not said you can go and negotiate them, that's fine but you can't make them bring them into effect until the end of the transition. that is something of a concession there as well. and also on the issue of citizens' rights, after brexit, the eu have been talking about having its court ofjustice overseeing those, enforcing that in the uk, there's now we think there's going to be a joint committee so in a way to the stepping back from that which was an important british concession to win there. thank you for that. he says will there continue to be reciprocal health cover similar to the present eh ic for travellers to and from the eu after brexit? yes, an important question for many people, this is
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the european health insurance card system where you travel from the uk or other eu countries around the eu, you apply, you get the card, you go if you get sick you can go and get treated in a hospital under the same basis as anyone of you would at home or anyone locally would. so it allows you to move freely and benefit from health care around the eu. if there is a transition period, everything stays in place for another two years or so. so the card would still continue. if there is no transition period, if there is no deal in the uk falls out at the end of march next year, that system would come to an end. and equally, at the end of the transition period if there is one we still don't know what happened then, it's quite possible it depends on was negotiated whether you can negotiate some sort of reciprocal deal to continue for health care or not, it's unclear. at the minute if that system goes what you have to do rather than travel with a card that
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entitles you to health care you would need insurancejust as you would go to america. thank you for that. finally i think if you could stand has got in touch and he said brexit dominates the news agenda in the uk, how much coverage and discussion is buried inside the eu? not as much is the very simple answer, this summit here, actually the eu issue on the table here has been the migration crisis and the political divisions around that. it took a much more time at this summit than the brexit issue did. much of the european coverage has focused on that, for example there are many other issues to relations in america with donald trump and vladimir putin and the eurosceptic parties who now in power in italy and their election results in sweden, all those things are important for european news but i have to as the brexit crunch point is coming, it is rising up the european news agenda as well.
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the questions were sent in by you and more of that too, as i mentioned earlier tomorrow morning with our health editor. the headlines on bbc news. there's a blunt message for theresa may in salzburg, as the head of the european council warns her brexit plan won't work and risks undermining the single market. thousands of cancellations and chaos on the railways over the summer, an investigation concludes the problem was that nobody took charge. at least three people have been killed, and others wounded, after a woman opened fire at an industrial unit in the us state of maryland. the chief executive of the prison and probation service, michael spurr, has been told to stand down amid a surge in violence, drug—taking and self—harm in jails across england and wales.
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michael spurr has been in charge for almost nine years. the ministry ofjustice has announced that he'll leave his role at the end of march 2019. well neil samworth is in our salford newsroom and can tell us more about the ongoing prisons crisis. neil was a prison officer for 15 years and is the author of a book entitled strangeways: a prison officer's story. welcome, good evening. good evening. welcome, good evening. good evening. we see a change here, michael moving on, he has been told to move on or asked to, we are told what difference will that make it any? for me, if you are at the top of the latter and things aren't going right, then you are always going to be in the firing line, really, it should not be about any sort of money thing or any present minister it should be about what's happening now and resolving it and staff and prisoners being assaulted daily. for
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me, that the priority over everything. if you have the chance to recommend how to combat that what will you say? you need to start building isner staff relationships. for me, i would give control back to prison governors, and individual prisons and let them use the stopover they need to to bring these levels of violence down which for me is building those relationships. you know, 40 years ago, prisons were locked up 23 hours a day, lots of staff, lots of animosity and he did not work. modern times we have prisoners out and now we have to lock them up because there's a lot of staff. it's escalating. you talk about giving control back to prison governors, that might surprise people because they might think one of the control now than? basically every president has a business plan and they are then targets to meet. some of the targets might be sending prisoners to work in education which people would argue that's a good thing. however, right now did
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violence of levels need to come down. which is monday through friday, and begins that means they get prisoners out, every day for half a day, in order it for staff to interact and prisoners to interact that i would let them do that. right of if you keep them in their cells for too long your argument would be if they are lived out their angry about it. they're angry and frustrated and it escalates everything, the violence, they will be more call for drugs, imagine them pending 23 hours in the family bathroom with a small tv. it's boring isn't it? so prisoners will be taking more drugs which will lead to more violence, bullying, and staff assaults. what about the drugs getting into jail. iappreciate staff assaults. what about the drugs getting into jail. i appreciate it's a very hard thing to combat but again people are mystified as to why we aren't more effective in tackling that issue. whenever people are going into prison, prisoners from courts, visitors, and prison staff
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will bring drugs in prison, if people accept, you take high—security prisons in america, they have drugs and they have got guard towers and guards with rifles and things like that, people will traffic drugs into prison. if you lessen the demand, you know start getting prisoners out, start building relationships, try and provide purposeful activity. then that would help. and all that implies to me more prison officers. you definitely need more officers or you need to be allowed to use the ones you have got, just to do certain tasks. if that is going to get the prisoners out all the people understand that's what you need to do. 0k, thank you for coming on. many are feared dead after a ferry carrying more than 500 passengers capsized on lake victoria in western tanzania. government officials say 42 people have been confirmed dead. the ferry overturned between the islands of ukerewe and ukora. more than 100 people have been rescued so far. the rescue mission has been halted until dawn.
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the foreign secretary, jeremy hunt, says he has raised the case of the two jailed reuters journalists with myanmar‘s leader. the reporters were arrested last december whilst investigating a massacre and were sentenced to seven years in prison after being convicted this month under the colonial—era official secrets act. mr hunt says he asked suu kyi to consider giving them a pardon. this is something that has caused us in him is concerned. the british mc here attended most of the trail, we are supporters and believers in freedom of the press all over the world and it raised my concerns that due process had not been followed in this big your case. and she said she would look into it. the duchess of sussex launched her grenfell community cookbook today,
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alongside prince harry and her mother doria ragland. meghan markle helped prepare lunch for the guests, at the launch of her first solo project as a member of the royal family. the family recipes are produced by cooks from the hubb community kitchen, an initiative based near the site of grenfell tower, which supports local people. this evening, the winner of this year's mercury prize will be announced, with a 25,000 pound cheque going to the best album of the last 12 months, by a british or irish act. previous winners have included the arctic monkeys and elbow, but in an age where we can all stream individual tracks, do albums still matter? ?our entertainment correspondent colin paterson has more. #. lily allen, 12 years and four albums into her career, thrilled to have finally made a mercury prize
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shortlist with no shame and she's out to win. it would mean everything to me, i would absolutely love for that to happen. it's a heartfelt record with previous albums i've been honest but maybe like a big finger wagging having other people what i think about them whereas this is what me thinking about where i am. he's up against albums by some very established acts including previous winners, arctic monkeys. music. florence and the machine on the net for the first time since 2009. and no gallacher, last up for a mercury 22 years ago as part of oasis but others on the list are far from household names. nadine shot is 32 from south tyneside and her third album holiday destination only made it to 71 in the charts. she believes
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a winter night could change her life. i need 25 grand a lot more than these guys. i speak truth about it, gallacher would just buy a pair of trousers with it. why not why the mercury is about celebrating the album it has been a tough year for the format. year on year, artist yea rs the format. year on year, artist years —— sales have fallen by 26% and that includes streaming. richard russell knows all about setting albums. he runs xl recordings, meaning he's a dell's boss. he's up for them merejury for meaning he's a dell's boss. he's up for them mere jury for his own everything is recorded project and duties of the formats will survive. i don't expect there to be dozens, you just look for there to be a few and that's what this is to highlight. whoever chimes tonight, they should learn from the calamity which befell the first winner of primal scream at the after show
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party they celebrated a little too hard. pompey losing their check for £20,000. colin patterson, bbc news. english heritage has asked people of the public to share their old pictures of stonehenge. the site was donated by a local lawyer who bought it atan donated by a local lawyer who bought it at an auction in 1915. he's taking one. she's getting hers. and she's not leaving without one. photographs, millions of them, taken on this extraordinary monument, and now this monument wants yours. bob heyhoe came as a teenager in 1960 and returned again this year to the exact same spot. sue lane was just four when she walked among the stones in 1966 and also came back to the same place. whilst jane vellender was a little girl in the late 1960s on a visit from bristol,
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and today she came back in person as well, to the very same stone, all tojoin in a new project sharing personal memories of stonehenge, 100 years after the site was gifted to the nation. i was about five and i vividly remember coming here and being wowed by how big the stones were and how old, even though i was only little. the project wants any photo from anyone from anywhere at stonehenge. it's to tell the story of the past 100 years by the people who've been here. this is neolithic nostalgia. stonehenge has about 1.5 million tourists a year and everybody takes a photograph. with this new project it doesn't matter how old the photograph is, or whether the picture's black and white or colour, the aim remains the same — to personalise this ancient monument. a digital photo album is of great
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way to create a national photo album of stonehenge. archaeology meets photography in a unique digital album set in stone. duncan kennedy, bbc news. now it's time for a look at the weather with helen willetts. the winds are escalating now, they have already been pitching in the 15 mile—per—hour mark gusting across the southern and western areas, a ru ns the southern and western areas, a runs exposed parts and they are now escalating further eastward and on that weather front as well we have got some really intense bursts of rain. let me show you how the rain has been hanging around northern england across wales and the southwest of the day. it's only gradually going to ease its way eastward. so it is bringing white significant amounts of rain, 40, 50,
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even 60 mm in some areas, probably even 60 mm in some areas, probably even higher over the hills and we have got more of that persistent and intense rain to come. maybe some slickness the end of the night. so, it will continue to be pretty awful on some of the roads, the roads, without driving range, very poor visibility because of the hill fog as well and you combine that with the winds gusting at 50 or 60 mph, thatis the winds gusting at 50 or 60 mph, that is stronger than those of yesterday crossing england and wales and cut down some trees. not a great night for most, a fresher night here as well and that something you'll notice across england and wales, a fresher day tomorrow but we will still awaken to some really cost —— like gusts of wind, could be some debris around as the makeup on friday morning. driving across northeast england, that wins very gusty indeed. but gradually through the day it densities and there will bea
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the day it densities and there will be a whole host of showers for scotla nd be a whole host of showers for scotland and northern ireland initially. that be afternoon and there won't be that many reaching there won't be that many reaching the south but 16 to 17 degrees is the south but 16 to 17 degrees is the high. that's because we will see this brief ridge of high pressure killing off those showers overnight into saturday what the weather does not last because we get more rain rushing into the south as we go through the day on saturday. judy starts, looks like a decent day for most starts, looks like a decent day for m ost a cce pt starts, looks like a decent day for most accept these out on the west where it turns wetter and there's a huge question mark over there, there is potential for a stormy weather. there are weather warnings. goodbye. hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. is this the final nail in the coffin for theresa may's chequers proposal? they suggested a framework for economic cooperation will not work. the british prime minister insists hers is the only
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viable plan for brexit — but has the rest of the eu 27 to convince. we will hear from the bbc europe editor. russia's national anti—doping organisation has had a three year suspension lifted — that move has provoked an angry reaction. and we're getting reports in of a ferry capsizing in tanzania with hundreds on board. we'll try and bring you the latest on that.
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