tv Beyond 100 Days BBC News November 22, 2018 7:00pm-7:31pm GMT
you're watching beyond one hundred days. the deal is within our grasp, says the prime minister, but will her brexit blueprint persuade the wavering backbenchers? the prime minister is not for turning but with dissenting voices on all sides, she looks an increasingly isolated figure. negotiations are now at a critical moment and all our efforts must be focused on working with our european partners to bring this process to a final conclusion in the interests of all our people. poisoned by novichok. the police officer involved in the salisbury nerve agent attack speaks publicly for the first time about his ordeal. the wife of the british academic jailed for life in the emirates says the british government put uk interests above his right to freedom. we will hear from one of matthew hedges‘ university professors. and no katty tonight. it is thanksgiving in america, but here's the washington team, out early this morning for their annual turkey trot. hello and welcome.
theresa may says brexit negotiations are at a critical stage but a good dealfor britain is within her grasp. today, the eu commission and the british government agreed a roadmap for the future relationship after brexit. it is called the political declaration. non—binding. it goes alongside the withdrawal agreement published last week that spelt out the terms for divorce. within this blueprint for the future relationship, there is specific reference to ending freedom of movement. there is recognition that, post—brexit, the uk will be an indepedent trading nation. there's an aspiration to use new technology to ensure there's no need for the northern ireland backstop. but there would be a clear continuing role for the european court ofjustice in settling future disputes with the eu. and it is explicit in the document that the eu's four freedoms — free movement of people, money, goods and services — are indivisible. in other words, the uk's future access to the single market will depend on how closely the uk
follows eu rules and regulations. here's our deputy political editor, john pienaar. here she was again. mrs may hasn't had much to crow about lately, but months of wrangling in brussels had finally delivered at least the outline of a plan to take to parliament. she couldn't wait that long. this is the right dealfor the uk. it delivers on the vote of the referendum. it brings back control of our borders, our money and our laws, iam i am determined to deliver that deal. so the wheels haven't come off, not yet anyway. up ahead, her critics were waiting. brexiteers, former remainers, who also think britain is heading blindly into a weaker position with no time limit,
and the opposition, all keen to stop mrs may in her tracks. the brexit divorce deal was facing opposition on all sides already. the new deal for the future after brexit talks about improving and building on a customs relationship, a relationship that is far too close to the eu for the brexiteers already. the deal talks about considering the use of new technology to avoid a hard irish border, but that is on top of the customs relationship, not instead of it. the european court would have the last word in legal disputes on european law where there is any dispute on any future agreement. that's another letdown for the eurosceptics, and there is no guarantee britain could pull out of a customs relationship if it comes about on its own initiative when it wants new trade deals. it all added up to a hard sell in the commons. the negotiations are at a critical moment and efforts must be focused on working with our european partners to bring this
process to a conclusion in the interests of all our people. the labour leader had other ideas. we have 26 pages of waffle. he has been accused of lacking clarity. that was his charge against mrs may. this empty document could have been written two years ago. it's peppered with phrases such as, the parties will look at. the parties will explore. what on earth has the government been doing for the last two years? brexiteers hated the idea of being stuck in a close customs relationship under the so—called backstop plan. if a trade deal takes too long. we have the horror of being in the customs union, the horror of northern ireland being split off under a different regime. and a potential leadership contender piled in. we should junk forthwith the backstop, upon which the future economic partnership, according to this political declaration, is to be based. the prime minister met her austrian
counterpart the day, getting agreement in europe has been hard. but that looks like being the easy bit. john pienaar, bbc news, westminster. joining me now from brussels is the bbc‘s gavin lee. this has been given to the sherpas and ministers today and the leaders will get chance to look at over the next 48 hours. what do you think will happen on sunday? my sense is the collywobbles that have happened over the last 48 hours, where it seemed that the spanish are deeply unhappy over gibraltar, and pedro sanchezis unhappy over gibraltar, and pedro sanchez is unhappy. i spoke to the spanish prime minister a few weeks ago, he said things are going swimmingly, and said actually know because spain wants a specific deal
on what they call the british colony, the overseas territory of gibraltar, now we are told they think there are measures to compromise or they can achieve a deal. two things happened. this came out today, the second of the divorce deal which is the political declaration, the future vision of that relationship, the first withdrawal agreement is legally binding, but this isn't. it is a masterclass in legal work. it talks about how there will be abroad, affectionate, deep relationship in the future, it could be something out of the mills and boon novel, but it is very good at giving about how britain will not have free movement of people and will have an independent trade policy but given it is not legally binding it is short in detail and that's why i think it will be compliant as countries to be on—board. so in short, where we were a day ago, i
think we have moved towards agreeing to this brexit deal. the uk parliament is obviously a massively different question. the two russian military intelligence officers who attacked former spy sergei skripal and his daughter in salisbury in march brought enough novichok into britain to kill 1,000 people. that's according to senior counterterrorism officers. dawn sturgess died when she and her partner, charlie rowley, who also became ill, came into contact with the perfume bottle used to smuggle the substance into britain. detective sergeant nick bailey also fell victim to the nerve agent, being poisoned as he initially inspected the skripals home. the bbc‘s jane corbin has the exclusive interview. salisbury, wiltshire. in march this year, the city became the epicentre of a deadly attack. two russian assassins were sent to kill former russian spy sergei skripal with lethal nerve agent novichok. he and his daughter, yulia, were discovered criticall
ill in the city centre. but one of the police officers investigating the crime would become a victim too. we had to make sure there were no other casualties in the house or anything in the house that was vital for us to find out what had happened to them. detective sergeant nick bailey was the first person to go to the skripals' home that night. he was wearing a full forensic suit when he entered their house, and everything appeared normal. 0nce i'd come back from the house, the skripals' house, my pupils were like pinpricks and i was quite sweaty and hot. at the time, i put that down to being tired and stressed. nick bailey too had come into contact with the novichok. it's like oil, sinking through porous surfaces, and it's spread by touch. just a few milligrams can kill. it only took a day for nick to realise something was badly wrong. everything was juddering.
i was very unsteady on my feet. the sweating had gone from my forehead down my back. my whole body was just dripping with sweat. must have been pretty frightening for you. yes, it was. it was horrendous. he recalls the moment in hospital when he was told what had poisoned him. they said, "you have this novichok, this nerve agent, "in your blood system". what was your reaction? scared, because it's the fear of the unknown. it's such a dangerous thing to have in your system. knowing how the other two were, or how badly they'd been affected by it, i was petrified. it took two weeks for the investigators to discover that the nerve agent was put on the front door handle of the skripals' home, but it took the death of dawn sturgess to work out how it got there. her partner, charlie rowley, who also became ill, had found the perfume bottle used to smuggle the substance into britain. officers say it contained
a significant amount of novichok, which could probably kill thousands of people. did it help you when you knew that it had been on the door handle and you didn't know that when you entered the house? it helped in some ways. i at that point knew, "well, it's not something "that i've done wrong", because that was a big thing for me. it's such a... 0utrageous, dangerous way of doing something that it angered me as well. but nick, the skripals and charlie rowley all survived the attack carried out by russian military intelligence officers alexander mishkin and anatoliy chepiga. it's unlikely they will ever appear in a british court. i said all along, "i want to walk out of hospital with my wife," which we did in the end. and being able to do that, to walk out of hospital after two and a half weeks of going through what i went through, was incredible. joining me now from birmingham is philip ingram,
a former senior intelligence officer in the british army. should the intelligence services have done more to keep this cripples out of sight, not only for the safety but for the public as well? they would have checked on the security system all the time, doing threat assessments, but nothing that would have indicated that would have come to the top of anything that would have required them to take active measures. and sergei skripal himself would have been involved in that process so there was nothing that process so there was nothing that would indicate he would be targeted in this way. the terrifying revelation in that report was this perky bottle contained enough nor the to kill over 1000 people. why would you use such a weapon to kill someone you would you use such a weapon to kill someone you perceived as a traitor? to send a very clear message. not the chop almost had a sign around
saying, made in russia. it was showing to the world that president putin could reach far and wide in a very horrific way and nobody was safe and he did not expect sergei skripal to survive, no wanted, but he was attacked primarily to send a message out to president putin's dissenters and anyone that might have tried to influence his election outcome. what are your thoughts on the reports today from russia that the reports today from russia that the head of the mid—military intelligence agency, criticised the way this operation was run, he now dead aged 62. they say he died after a series long illness but i suppose it speaks of how low the relationship has descended that many do not believe that. they are severely embarrassed, notjust by the attack. that was not too bad for them. the accident was dropping the
bottle but we also have the incident in the netherlands and then we have the investigation which has embarrassed them even more. he was called in to meet president putin for a dressing down not long after this came out and the detail came out, and he immediately went on sick leave after that. that would suggest that his illness and subsequent eyes have been related to this. stay with us have been related to this. stay with us because i want to get your thoughts into the next story. a major report into the manchester bombings has revealed authorities missed opportunities to prevent the attack. 22 people were killed in the bombing at manchester arena last year. according to the a report, the parliamentary intelligence and security committee says m15 moved too slowly to establish the danger posed by the bomber, salman abedi. he had first been flagged in 2010. he had visited an extremist contact in prison. no follow—up action was taken. and there was another opportunity missed after his return to england from libya, days before the attack, where he is believed to have been taught bomb—making. let's go back to philip ingram.
it is impossible to say whether they could have stopped this. 0bviously, though, reading the report, there we re though, reading the report, there were plenty of opportunities missed. it is impossible. whenever you write the report, you have the advantage of hindsight, you have got the jigsaw puzzle picture in front of you and then you try to look at the pieces and put them in place. the security and intelligence services working beforehand were trying to working beforehand were trying to work in 2020 for your site, they did not know this would happen and were running a huge number of investigations, over 600 investigations, over 600 investigations on 3000 people with another 20,000 people on a watchlist. no matter how many resources you have got, that is massive. and it is a human process therefore u nfortu nately massive. and it is a human process therefore unfortunately things will slip between the cracks and, when you get it wrong, magister should
the horror of what can happen. but the horror of what can happen. but the committee had said they had made recommendations previously in all these areas they reported on the day after the murder of lee rigby, yet the government has failed to act on them, are we failing to learn lessons ? them, are we failing to learn lessons? i don't think we are failing to learn lessons. the prevent programme came in the bad publicity when it was first launched. the opposition around the uk to prevent being built on, but the government needed that, and they have done, and lessons have come out of magister, a new content strategy was issued earlier this year with a view of bringing in all the lessons that have come out this report in every aspect of the report have done that. it is notjust the government. they are trying to get social media providers and 90 companies to deal with extremist material online. —— internet. there has been resistant
because people think that is infringing on freedom. is balancing freedoms of security, that is a different task for government. did i meet are normally, the head of m15 would meet with the prime minister every year, and that's not happened three years? it was the prime minister had not met with the intelligence and security committee. the head of m15 will brief the prime minister on a very regular basis. but it was the intelligence and security committee in particular, but the prime minister does not need to meet them, she will see reports on one of the committees that have come out of ireland. they have got no responsibility on the day—to—day operational measures that have been put in place by counterterrorist police or security services or by the wider intelligence services.
really interesting, thank you very much for being with us tonight. the wife of a british academicjailed for life in the united arab emirates says the way the foreign office has handled the case has been appalling. matthew hedges, from durham university, had been in the country conducting research on the uae‘s security strategy when he was arrested at dubai airport on 5th may. he's been accused of spying. his wife, daniela tejada, insists he's innocent and says the british govenment has failed to take a firm enough stance. here she is speaking to the bbc‘s today show this morning. i was under the impression that they were putting their interests with the uae above a british citizen's rightful freedom and his welfare and his right, notjust to a fair trial, just to freedom. they were stepping on eggshells instead of taking a firm stance. no allies should be treating a fellow country's citizens like that. and there's absolutely no reason why they should think that a close ally would be sending an undercover agent to spy on them.
it's absurd. in the last hour, foreign secretary jeremy hunt said he'd had a constructive conversation with his uae counterpart and trusted that he was working hard to resolve the situation asap. a short while ago, i spoke tojohn williams, professor of international relations at durham university, where matthew was a student. john williams, tell us a little bit about matthew hedges' research. was it possible, in any way, that the emirates could have mistaken the research he was doing for intelligence gathering? no, that would be impossible. one of the things about academic research is that, before anybody is allowed to work with any living person, they have to go through a lengthy research ethics process, and central to that is the idea of the informed consent of the people you are researching with. so matthew will have contacted all of the people that he wanted to speak to in advance. in fact, they were all known to him
previously because he's quite an experienced person in terms of working within the uae, so he would tell them information about himself, about the project that he was working on and the information that he would hope to gain from them during the course of an interview. have you had a conversation within the university as to whether perhaps you owed him a greater duty of care? was there something you could have done to advise him away from certain techniques, certain information gathering that might have prevented this? 0bviously, that's something that we've asked ourselves multiple times since matt was detained back in may. we have been back to our research ethics approval processes, we have re—examined what he was given, we have taken into account the dynamics of the region during that period,
and there is nothing in what he did that explains the reasons for his detention. 0ne that explains the reasons for his detention. one of the reasons the uae has been touching base for so many international universities for well over a decade is because it is normally seen the somewhere where it is relatively straightforward and safe to conduct proper rigorous intellectual inquiry of the sort that matthew was undertaken. you probably saw the interview his wife gave to the bbc this morning. she feels british diplomats did not do enoughin feels british diplomats did not do enough in the initial weeks following his arrest to stop this happening at trial. do you think you did enough? yes. we were informed about matt's detention within a few hours of it taking place, and we worked predominantly with matt's family to see what we could do to help. everybody expected the first
two or three days would be something that would be over, and there are people who were picked up at dubai airport, they were given a hard for or 72 hours and sent on the way, so that was the expectation. the embassy this is not final. they indicate there will be another trial, which means there is a tacit a cce pta nce trial, which means there is a tacit acceptance that the trial will not be enough. you hoping this will be solved quickly and there will be some form of royal pardon? —— emirates. there is an appeals process and that is what we are focusing on at the university. we have put together the strongest possible appeal and then there is an opportunity for this unjust decision to be overturned. very grateful for yourtime, to be overturned. very grateful for your time, thank you. the executive board of the japanese carmaker — nissan — has voted unanimously to dismiss its chairman — carlos ghosn — following allegations of financial misconduct. mr ghosn, who remains
in detention in tokyo following his arrest on monday, is accused by nissan of under—reporting his salary and using company assets for personal use. his removal ends his long tenure at the top of the alliance between nissan, mitsubishi and renault. the human rights organisation amnesty international has accused france of unjustly punishing dozens of people without trial by increasingly using counterterrorism measures. the measures can impose curfews and make it obligatory for the person to report daily to the local police. engineers in italy have revealed that the leaning tower of pisa is not leaning quite as much as it used to. they say that, thanks to restoration work, the medieval monument is now stable and has been straightened by 4cm over the past two decades. and a 23—year—old designer in the philippines has come up with an innovative solution to the country's slum crisis — a low—cost housing unit made from bamboo, which takes just four hours to construct. earl patrick forlales,
who has won a top $64,000 prize for his design, will start work on the first of his homes in 2019. let's return to our main story this hour, and british and eu negotiators have agreed a draft political declaration on the uk's future relationship with the eu. it follows talks that went on through the night. we can now speak to the shadow brexit secretary, sir keir starmer, who is in westminster. pretty clear already that this document we have seen today will not meet your tests, but no brexiteer would meet your tests because you spelt out clearly it had to have the exact same benefits as the single market and if you want to stop freedom of movement that is impossible. i did not pluck the test out of thin air. i base them on what the government said it would deliver when it started negotiations. those phrases came endorsed by the prime
minister so i will not have it thrown to me that these tests are on the prime minister, it is what she said she would achieve, but frankly whether you apply the tests precisely or even broadly, this falls far short of them on a number of respects, but also the document today, the future relationship, is vague and just lists possible options. for weeks and months we have been saying to the prime minister, if you want us to vote on the future arrangement, you have got to give the detail, you have got to give precision, we cannot have a blind brexit where we do not know where we will up. what she delivered back, the exact opposite of what parliament has asked for all this time. although it is explicit in the document today, and much of it is vague, that the four freedoms are not indivisible and if few as the labour party want and freedom of movement you cannot have frictionless trade. that was in the opening guidelines for the eu. that
is not news. we wanted to know what has gone on in the last two years, what is the plan, were you taking us? all this paper does is we are exploring this and that, but it lists options, if this, then something. it is extraordinarily bitterly disappointing. so if you are putting this down, what are you proposing, a general election? the vote will be the second week of december, we will have to see if it is voted down. at the moment, it is not just us is voted down. at the moment, it is notjust us criticising the deal, it is the government's own mps. if the dealfalls, we will is the government's own mps. if the deal falls, we will have to decide isa deal falls, we will have to decide is a parliament what to do next but there ought to be a general election. this would be a failure of negotiation. it therefore follows that, if you are calling for a general election, you cannot possibly renegotiate the withdrawal agreement and political declaration within four months so you must
therefore indicate that you want to pause article 50? we will have to decide is a parliament what happens next, but this argument that the prime minister has run down the clocks, so it is labour's fault, if there is enough time left to com plete there is enough time left to complete the exercise properly, will not stick. the end of the exercise, the comeback with a bad deal and say, it either might bad deal or worse, is a false choice. it is not just in parliament, across the country, the idea that the future of our country comes down to do bad or worse is unacceptable to people, whichever way they will voted. downing street has reiterated the night there will be no new brexit referendum while theresa may is prime minister and she has said in the last few days we are leaving in march 2019. some people say it is impossible to put an amendment to an act of parliament. you have passed
article 50 somehow do you stop it? the first thing to recognise is that there is a large majority in parliament who will not countenance no deal and the post will be heard, either on a motion or amendment because it cannot be acceptable to this walk off a cliff. what then happens depends on the consensus of the majority in parliament but there will be other opportunities in legislation to pass amendments. 0n the prime minister's own analysis over the summer, they recognise that 51 changes to legislation will be needed before march to be completed before march if we were the exit or try to exit with no deal, so whatever else, there is a majority against no deal, no end of opportunities for us to amend legislation on this. but if you look at the withdrawal deal in its entirety, it provides a backstop, it keeps the uk in a customs union,
keeps the uk in a customs union, keeps us tied closely to the single market, if she could get some movement from the eu on the backstop, which seems to be the problem for a lot of mps, would you look again at it? i will always look any changes the prime brings back, but i don't think this week she has even tried to get amendments to the withdrawal agreement, as i understand it, and i don't think she will be listening in relation to the document she is put before us today. she is often described as resilient but what she was really doing is ploughing on regardless and without listening to the very loud voices that are telling her she's heading in the wrong direction. thank you very much forjoining us this evening. as you will have noticed, katty has left me alone today while she enjoys the thanksgiving break, and my spies tell me she has even ducked out of the annual charity fun run in washington known as the turkey trot. it's a 5k run. plenty of other cities do it around the us as well — the perfect excuse to eat whatever you want later in the day. so here's some of the team
from the washington bureau. this is before. and this after. goodness me, not a turkey in sight! there's quite a few pink faces there. it was —3 when they set off this morning — one of the coldest thanksgivings on record in the north east. iam sure i am sure they were pretty glad to go running to keep warm! well done to them, i hope they are enjoying their thanksgiving break. that's it from me and the team. katty will be back from her thanksgiving break on monday. we'll see you then. temperatures did not rise a great
deal today. a very grey and gloomy day in many areas, low cloud continuing across northern england into scotland with showers. a few brea ks into scotland with showers. a few breaks behind that before more clouds coming from the south together with some sharp showers in the far south—west. just about frost free tonight, no significant breaks in the cloud. some brighter skies for a while and a little sunshine tomorrow for northern ireland, at the far north of england, southern scotland. quite cloudy elsewhere, still showers in scotland as heavy ones clipping the far west of england. temperatures showing a bit ofan england. temperatures showing a bit of an improvement can with today. not quite cold, possibly double figures in ——