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today at 5pm, two brothers whose mother and sister were killed by their father call for a better understanding of psychological abuse. 19—year—old charlotte and her mother claire were shot by lance hart after yea rs of intense, controlling behaviour by him. from the outside in, it looked like we were a close—knit family. we were always together, we had a nice—looking house. and i think we put on a face as well. we didn't want anyone to know what was going on, almost. but on the inside, we were terrified. we were fighting every single day. it comes as a review says the case should be at the centre of greater awareness of the crime of coercive control. the other main stories on bbc news at 5pm: donald trump's former lawyer pleads guilty to lying to congress in relation to the russia inquiry, but the president hits back. because he's a weak person, and not a very smart person. what he's trying to do is end... and it's very simple. he's got himself a big prison sentence, and he's trying to get a much lesser prison sentence. debate about a debate —
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theresa may and jeremy corbyn clash over which tv broadcaster should host a brexit head—to—head, itv or the bbc. overall migration to the uk is steady. a record number of people from eu countries are leaving, but more are coming from elsewhere. and new manager sol campbell tells league two macclesfield town that in him, they have "an international footballer" who's been "one of the best players in the world." it's 5pm. our main story is that a review of the case of a man who killed his wife and daughter after years of psychologically abusing his family has recommended a national campaign to raise awareness of the issue of coercive control. lance hart killed his wife claire
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and their 19—year—old daughter charlotte in spalding in lincolnshire in 2016, before turning the gun on himself. coercive control became a criminal offence three years ago, but the family were unaware of it. days before the murder, lance hart's sons luke and ryan moved their mother and sister out of the family home. our home affairs correspondentjune kelly has been speaking to them. claire and charlotte hart were a very close mother and daughter. and they were together when they were shot dead. just days before, they had finally escaped from the family home after years of psychological abuse. lance hart lay in wait for his wife and daughter with a gun outside a leisure centre. he knew they had gone there for a swim. after murdering claire and charlotte, he turned the gun on himself. throughout his marriage, lance hart had subjected his family to what's known as coercive control, extreme psychological
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and emotional abuse, but which stopped short of serious violence. charlotte's older brothers, luke and ryan, say that before the killing, theirfather had never been violent, and they didn't realise his psychological bullying was domestic abuse. from the outside in, it looked like we were a close—knit family. we were always together, we had a nice—looking house. on the inside, we were terrified. we were frightened every single day. we had never turned up to school with a bruise, we had never encountered the police, never been to social services. we were top students. like, literally, we were the top students. and then, our father killed our mother and sister. today's review by the safer lincolnshire partnership says the murders were a tragedy that could not have been foreseen. the family weren't on the radar of police and social services, because they had never contacted the authorities about lance hart. do i think that the public need to be more aware of coercive control?
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absolutely. i think that's a job, notjust for police and agencies, but for communities as a whole, and it's one of the key recommendations that this report makes, that our partnership will address. the coercive control which lance hart subjected his wife and children to became a criminal offence in england and wales at the end of 2015. seven months before the murders. our mum especially, he limited her life as much as he could, he didn't let her work more than part—time, so she had no financial independence. so, overtime, mumjust got more and more worn down. her friendship groups were closed off, herfamily were closed off, because our father kept moving us away, so we were physically distant from anyone who knew us. and he essentiallyjust turned mum into, essentially, a slave for him.
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she lived just to serve him. today's review talks about the need for gps to question patients about suspected domestic abuse, and it says there should be a national publicity campaign to raise awareness of what coercive control is, using this family's story to show how such abuse can end in tragedy. june kelly, bbc news. if you are affected by any of the issues covered injune‘s report, you can go to the bbc action line website at in the last half hour, president trump has confirmed that he won't be meeting the russian leader vladimir putin at the 620 summit in argentina, blaming it on the current ukrainian crisis. earlier in the week, russia seized three ukrainian ships and their crews near crimea. meanwhile, this afternoon, president trump's former personal lawyer has pleaded guilty to misleading a us congressional committee investigating russian interference in the 2016 election. michael cohen said he lied out of loyalty to the president. michael cohen had already
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pleaded guilty to breaking campaign finance laws. the president has been giving his reaction in the past hour. so, michael cohen has made many statements to the house, as i understand it, and the senate. he put out a statement talking about a project which was essentially, i guess, more or less of an option that we were looking at in moscow. everybody knew about it. it was written about in newspapers. it was a well—known project. it was during the early part of ‘16, and i guess even before that. it lasted a short period of time. i didn't do the project. i decided not to do the project, so i didn't do it. so we're not talking about doing a project, we're talking about not doing a project. michael cohen, what he's doing is... he was convicted, i guess. you'll have to put it into legal terms. but he was convicted with a fairly long—term sentence on things totally unrelated to the trump organization, having to do with mortgages and having to do with
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cheating the irs, perhaps, a lot of different things. i don't know exactly. but he was convicted of various things unrelated to us. he was given a fairly long jail sentence, and he's a weak person. and by being weak, unlike other people that you watch, he's a weak person and what he's trying to do is get a reduced sentence. so, he's lying about a project that everybody knew about. i mean, we were very open with it. we were thinking about building a building. i guess... it was an option. i don't know what you'd call it. we decided... i decided ultimately not to do it. there would have been nothing wrong if i did do it. if i did do it, there would have been nothing wrong. that was my business. our washington correspondent chris buckler can tell us more. you better unpick some of this because it is starting to get quite convoluted. just start with michael cohen, in relationship with president trump any trouble he's
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been in. yet unpack quite a bit of what donald trump was staying there. first of all, he describes michael cohen asked a week and not very smart person. this was a man who was regarded as donald trump's personal lawyer but also his mr fix it. he officially went and lot of the problems donald trump added and —— had in his personal and professional life. stormy daniels, whenever she was talking about her alleged affair with president trump. he was a you had intimate knowledge of his business and personal dealings. what michael cohen has pleaded guilty to is in relation to making false state m e nts is in relation to making false statements about a property deal that was proposed in moscow, that the trump organisation was involved in. you heard donald trump there talk about, i might have done it, i was going to do it but i didn't do it and it would have been a problem ifi it and it would have been a problem
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if i had. what this basically was was a moscow trump tower. the trump organisation was looking at building. previously, michael cohen had told a congressional committee that was looking into allegations of russian interference in the 2016 election and these claims that the trump campaign included in somewhere with russia in that. what he told that conversations about a proposed moscow trump tower, they stopped in january when he 16. —— 2016. what he is now told robert mueller is that actually committee conversations continued until summer, 2016, when presidents shouldn't —— the presidential election cabin was well under way. he also says he failed to reveal a conversation he had with officials in the comment about the proposed are pretty deal. it seems that happened early in 2016, in january, and this suggestion is, that conversation was arranged by
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the press secretary of the russian president vladimir putin. chris, tell us why, then, president trump might have chosen to cancel this meeting with vladimir putin at the g20 in argentina went in his view there is nothing wrong, there's nothing to see? of course, his arguments, it is about what is happening in ukraine. he says that based on the fact that ships and sailors and not been returned to ukraine from russia, he is cancelling this meeting. i would suspect that there's also an element of optics in this. whenever robert mueller is continuing his very active investigation into these allegations into interference, when it doesn't make his own personal lawyer suggests conversation to the kremlin and conversation are taking place well into 2016 about a proposed moscow trump tower, the truth is the president doesn't really wa nt truth is the president doesn't really want to be seen to be close
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with latimer putin. that is speculation. you can imagine in washington where there are lot of rumourand washington where there are lot of rumour and gossip and circulated daily master collection about robert mueller‘s investigation, suggesting it could did towards the end here, that there could be a report, that there could further indictments, the picture of the letter putin and donald trump having conversation together might be something that donald trump says "the take his media" would hold against them. chris, thank you very much. —— the fa ke chris, thank you very much. —— the fake news media. plans for a live televised debate on brexit between the prime minister and jeremy corbyn are up in the air, following a clash between the two over the format. theresa may has agreed to the bbc‘s proposal for a programme on the sunday before the crucial vote in parliament. but mr corbyn has said that he prefers the itv offer. our political correspondent iain watson reports. she may have emerged from the back door of downing street this morning, but theresa may signalled she would be willing to put her brexit plans under
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the spotlight in a bbc debate. labour hasn't yet taken up the offer. but she was determined to get some practice in, anyway. she was on her way to a kind of political dragons' den to sell her deal to a panel of senior mps. my focus is on the vote that will take place on the 11th of december here in this house. but straight away, rather than asking about her deal, they seemed more interested in what would happen if mps voted it down on december 11th. the question i'm asking you is, is there planning going on for a different approach if the deal is defeated? this is the deal that has been negotiated, and this is the deal that people need to focus on. knowing you for 20 years, ijust don't believe that if your deal goes down, you are the kind of person who would contemplate taking this country into a no—deal situation. am i wrong? it will be a decision for parliament as to whether they accept the deal. and they also wanted to know
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if the prime minister would be unveiling her long—anticipated plans for a new post—brexit immigration system before mps vote on her deal. can you just confirm that we will definitely have the immigration white paper published before the meaningful vote on 11 december? there is still discussion ongoing as to the timing. and there's another issue to be settled. it is still not clear that we'll see theresa may debating directly withjeremy corbyn on television. politicians can't seem to agree on anything these days. she seems to be willing to accept a bbc proposal that would involve audience participation, while he wants a head—to—head clash on a rival channel. the itv offer seemed a sensible one. it reaches a wide audience and the timing looks good to me, because it is not inconveniencing people who may wish to watch other
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things later in the evening. and on the substance of brexit, the labour leader told itv‘s this morning that parliament wouldn't allow the prime minister to leave without a deal. well, the alternative isn't no deal. nobody's going to allow no deal. how could we? we've seen the prime minister and the leader of the opposition argue their case in very different settings this morning. whether we see them clash head—to—head is still, well, a matter of debate. iain watson, bbc news. live to our chief political correspondent, vicki young. the prime minister has gone to the g20 in argentina, leaving this all asleep the necklace fully lighter. -- all asleep the necklace fully lighter. —— all of this blissfully behind her. happily left behind him as you say. it was interesting this afternoon, downing street emphasising how much effort the trimester has put into telling her
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deal, saying she is put over 18 hours at the dispatch box answering questions and more than nine and a half hours in the last two weeks. it was about determination alone, she would have a good chance of getting this through the comments to the next comments —— 30 house of commons, but it is not. this committee very much focused on this no deal scenario. suggesting would be highly damaging to the uk economy. the question for those mps is, how do they prevent that happening? we're hearing from a lot of the and a lot of mps that we are going to stop no deal, parliament can stop no deal happening. the question is how do they do it? speaking to various people today, it seems clear they want to get as much asa seems clear they want to get as much as a cross party consensus and all of this. they think is much more powerful if they cross the parties from across the liberal democrats, the snp, conservative labour, too, that they can coalesce around one amendments to that meaningful vote.
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that is the plan. whether it's successful or not is another matter. meanwhile, you another group of mps try to get this second referendum. justine greening saying she thinks it is possible to have that, another referendum held by the end of may. obviously, you would have to delay brexit by a few months. she thinks thatis brexit by a few months. she thinks that is perfectly possible. as for those tv debates, there is still a big? —— a big question about whether i will go ahead. vicki young, thank you very much. the headlines on bbc news: two brothers whose mother and sister were killed by their abusive father call for a national campaign to focus on the impact of controlling behaviour in cases of domestic violence. donald trump's former lawyer pleads guilty to lying to congress in relation to the russia inquiry. the president responds, saying he's a "weak" person trying to seek a reduced sentence. confusion over a brexit tv debate between two party leaders. theresa may accepts the bbc‘s proposal,
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butjeremy corbyn prefers itv‘s. and in sport, sol campbell says he's great for macclesfield town for the opportunity to take his first step in management. —— he's grateful to. arsenal are in key at the head of their europa league match. political instability in the country probably doa instability in the country probably do a photography 200 miles to the ukrainian capital, kiev. manchester united have activated a one—year extension to goalkeeper david de gea's contract to prevent any uncertainty over his future heading into the general transfer window. and i will be back with more on the stories after half past five. —— the january transfer window. new figures on net migration — that's the difference between those coming to live in the uk and those leaving — show that numbers from the eu have fallen to their lowest level since 2012. the news, from the office
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for national statistics, also shows net migration from non—eu countries is at its highest level for over a decade. our home affairs correspondent danny shaw is here. what do these figures tell us? firstly, there's been a significant reduction in the number of people who are coming to live here from eu countries. that the trend we've seen, really, since the time of the referendum in 2016. there's also been a big rise in the number of eu citizens who are living in britain deciding to leave the country. either they are going back because they want to go home or they want to make their home in the home when they came from, or they've got some work opportunities there and that's reason they're going back. the effect of all this is that you next migration —— eu net migration is at 74,000. that's migration —— eu net migration is at 74, 000. that's the migration —— eu net migration is at 74,000. that's the lowest figure for six years. at the same time, what we're seeing is immigration from outside the eu on the rise. the net
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figure there is 248,000. 248,000 is the figure for nine eu net migration, and at the highest figures in 2004. the highest figure since 2004 for people coming into the country from outside europe. what does this mean, then, in terms of overall net migration and the government's target? first of all, the population of the country so growing terms of migration. that is very clear. many more people are coming to live here then are departing. the overall net migration figure, taking account of eu and nine eu and burtons, and going, to 73,000. that is similarto burtons, and going, to 73,000. that is similar to the population of
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sunderland images to give you an illustration of how large that figure remains. and it is well above the government's target. the government, rumour, has a target to get net migration to below 100,000. we are well above that target. danny, thank you very much. thank you. let mejust fine let me just fine at where we are. here we go. the british citizen killed in an attack on a compound in the afghan capital kabul — run by the uk security firm g4s — has been named as 33—year—old luke griffin. g4s says five of its employees were killed in the taliban attack yesterday, in which 32 other employees were injured. four months today, the uk is scheduled to leave the european union, and different sectors of the economy have been gearing up for the change. in the nhs, they're looking at key areas that could be affected, including staffing, the supply of vital medicines and access to new treatments.
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the health secretary matt hancock has told mps that although a no—deal scenario is "unlikely", the government is preparing for all eventualities. let's go live to our health correspondent, kathryn burns. she's in milton keynes. we've been in this hospital all day looking at those things about possible impacts on brexit, on health, and one of the key ones is medicine. at the minute, we are part of the european‘s medicine agency. that gives 25% of the global drugs sales market. after brexit, the uk were present about 3% of that market. there are big questions about whether it will still be as much of a priority for drug companies when they're releasing new meds in the future. i've been to meet one family whose worried about exactly that. that was a good goal. shiv is seven, and his big passion is football.
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now we're going to score! but he struggles to play. he has a rare condition called duchenne muscular dystrophy. boys with it tend to be in a wheelchair before they are 12, lose the use of their arms in their teens, and then, in their 20s, their hearts can stop working. it is life—limiting and, yeah, to be told that, it felt like we'd been given a death sentence for our son. and then brexit comes along. that, for us, gives us even more sleepless nights than what duchenne already does. they are optimistic about better treatments, or even a cure, and there are hopeful signs from researchers, but there is concern that leaving the eu might mean we might get new drugs later, something the government says won't happen. we can have a medicine and medical devices regulation system that can provide for access to the best new medicines. but some industry figures are not quite so optimistic. do you think brexit will make the uk less of a priority when it comes to releasing new medication
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in the future? unfortunately, there's a high potential that that might be the case. so you prioritise america, europe, where the big populations are because you want to get your medicine to the maximum number of patients possible. now, the concern would be that the uk might fall down, theoretically, the pecking order. the hope is that it won't come to that, though. the government's aim is for us to continue to work closely with the european drugs regulator. and authorities here say they want to make sure that patients get new drugs at the same time as the rest of the eu. but it's all down to negotiation, and if it comes to a no—deal brexit, such close cooperation could be off the table. politicians must remember that these drugs save people's lives, they extend people's lives. they make sure that people don't end up in hospital. so, again, it's really important to make sure they recognise
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and remember that as part of the negotiation. countries with less purchasing power do have to wait for new medications — switzerland tends to get them about five months later than the eu. but there is also a view that after brexit, we might become faster at releasing some medicines — for example, vaccines. as for shiv‘s parents, they feel that this is a race against the clock. every minute counts, every day counts, and we just simply don't have the time to waste. the other question we've got about medicines is more immediate. the patient still get their vital supplies in the event of a no—deal brexit? to give you a bit of context about two thirds of the medicine we get in the country, either from or via the eu. there is some concern that maybe blockages at ports could slow things down afterwards. the
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government does have a plan, though. it asked drug companies to stockpile an extra six weeks supplied to get us an extra six weeks supplied to get us through any times of uncertainty. one drug company told me, we are planning for the worst but we are hoping for the better. thank you very much. well, in the next half hour, we'll be trying to answer your questions about how brexit will affect the nhs — including that supply of vital medicines — at 5.30pm today. you can text 61124, email or tweet using the hashtag #bbcaskthis. let's stay with brexit, and plans for a live televised debate between the prime minister and jeremy corbyn are up in the air, following a clash between the two over the format. both bbc and itv want to host the event. guardian columnist zoe williams is here with me in the studio, and former spokesperson for theresa may, joeyjones, is in westminster. both committee could very much for joining us. and trying to navigate
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this conundrum. jerryjones, why would the prime minister what this debate at all when she of course, as we know an election campaigns and handed it over to other people, notably amber rudd on one occasion? in the current context that she was to go out into the country and try to go out into the country and try to sell the deal, it does make sense asa to sell the deal, it does make sense as a sort of communications opposition. the weird thing is that she is appearing to a bunch of people who don't have a vote, who because it's only the mps that will have influence over this particular decision. the rationale behind it has to be that if she can demonstrate over the next couple of weeks that there's a groundswell of popular support for the deal, it puts the brighteners, the thumbscrews on the mps who at the moment are looking like they're going to reject a deal in a big way. zoe williams, the prime minister seems to think that she could show jeremy corbyn all the way home
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because he clearly doesn't have a plan. certainly not one that's any better than hers. what's in it for him? this is the line that's really coagulated recently, which is any plan is better than no plan. that's what's, as you say, what's in it for her. she thinks if she can show his disunity or take the spotlight off her disunity, his... what's in it for him, and i would agree if you just challenge on brexit, he would have too many ambiguities and too many undecideds to really be at his best. what's in it for him is if he's hoping to make the debate about all the areas of government that had been neglected by brexit. if he goes out there saying, "you're not actually governing the country because you're too busy with this infighting," the because you're too busy with this infighting, " the networks because you're too busy with this infighting," the networks for him. when i work at all with the bbc format because if there are 12 voices, some of them hard remain, some of them hard leave, some of
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them in articulate, some of them incredibly angry, she would just... she's probably hoping that being the lone voice of reason in chaos. jeremy corbyn commends down to stray onto the nhs, universal creditable as happened with prisons, mental health, why the nhs and your plane is again brought out in all these kind of incredibly neglected —— and a your plan. how likely is it that juries may will agree to that idea format when, as a zoe says, the format when, as a zoe says, the format could veer off into different parts of the conversation? is reasonably likely this will happen. to be honest, if it doesn't, i actually don't think it would be a great loss. i'm a big proponent, a big supporter of debates, particularly in the run—up to a general election, as you would
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expect coming from sky news in my past, who campaigned vehemently and consistently for this. i actually think this format is fatally flawed, either format camera really. think this format is fatally flawed, eitherformat camera really. he had idea just doesn't work in our current, fractured politics. brexit is split political opinion in all sports of different directions, and it's not a criticism of theresa may orjeremy corbyn, but theyjust cannot reflect the full spectrum of opinion. ultimately, the only valid way of approaching the correct situation is to get a full, a much bigger range of people. he got to have someone representing people's vote, someone representing that energy group in the conservative party. you've got to absolutely have someone representing northern ireland and scotland, and the list goes on, which probably to be fair would make the whole thing a bit unmanageable. how important than, zoe, orjeremy corbyn that he gets his itv audience on a sunday?”
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don't know how he personally feels that his supporters feel he is being passed by the bbc because the bbc is of course already saying theresa may has agreed, "where are you, jeremy corbyn? " has agreed, "where are you, jeremy corbyn?" it was has agreed, "where are you, jeremy corbyn? " it was jeremy has agreed, "where are you, jeremy corbyn?" it was jeremy corbyn -- downing street who said he accepted. no offence to you, but it's featuring in the bbc's social media. it's still undecided that the bbc had not gone that far. who knows? i think the entire proposition is dishonest. i kind of agree with joey. you are not taking the temperature of the country if you're not going to ask the country in a legitimate, democratic way. what is it, showbiz? it is taking an important democratic moment and
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taking it into a format, so it is just showbiz. what do you think? the public are not going to vote on this deal. to be honest, don't know where the story emerged from. broadcasters are going to want to have a debate like this because it is a hugely important moment for the country and he wants to be able to put on the moment that people might remember. i can really understand that. i don't understand where it came from the political side. downing street try to go out into the country will someone people committed to it, it's quite hard to back away. logistics of this are quite complicated and it might give people an easy to quietly step back and the whole thing might be forgotten. jilly jones and zoe williams, thank you both very much for coming in. thank you. asjoey jones. time for a look at the weather, with helen. thank you. hello there. good evening. it's not been the best of
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days if you are travelling, with still rain and some fairly dusty winds left behind, but the rain is becoming widespread. it is becoming more limited. the heavy showers coming in one after the other it's also very gusty winds. some power outages across the west country. the winds continued to ease in the south of them overnight but enough, i think, to keep lots of showers flowing in and temperatures above freezing. the north, more rain coming and the winds stick quite likely for scotland in particular. nothing exceptionalfor likely for scotland in particular. nothing exceptional for this time of year. we'll see most of the showers but there will be frequent in the spices, perhaps using a bit in the south. not quite as mild air. with more sunshine, fewer showers and not so likely winds, i think it'll feel 0k so likely winds, i think it'll feel ok but the rain is back for the weekend. i'll have more on that later. this is bbc news.
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the headlines: two brothers whose mother and sister were killed by their abusive father call for a national campaign to focus on the impact of controlling behaviour in cases of domestic violence. donald trump's former lawyer has pleaded guilty to lying to congress in relation to the inquiry into russian influence in the us election and the president has hit back. because he's a weak person, and not a very smart person, what he's trying to do is and that it's very simple, he's got himself a big prison sentence and he's trying to get a much lesser prison sentence. there's confusion over a brexit tv debate between two party leaders, theresa may has accepted the bbc's proposal, butjeremy corbyn prefers itv‘s. let's cross to the bbc sport centre and join sarah for all the latest: hello. thank you very much, let's
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start with the former arsenal and england defender because he says they are getting one of the best players in the world after being appointed manager of the need after an impressive playing career with arsenal and england, he struggled to ta ke arsenal and england, he struggled to take the first step into football management but does so with the men who were bottom of league 2. he's the eighth manager among the 92 teams in the top divisions and suggested that clubs remain locked —— reluctant to hire black managers. i think for me it's all about opportunities. i'm not going to go down that road and state the obvious i think for me i've got an opportunity, i'm going to take it with both hands and i'm going to work my socks off and see how far i can go and that's the thing for me really. i think when you start
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getting sidelined, i think you want the situation to become normal, so you don't see black and white you just the football manager. 20 minutes to go to kick—off for arsenal but at one stage the match looked like it may not go ahead, political instability in ukraine prompted uefa to move the europa league match despite protests from the knights opponents, the decision was taken on tuesday meaning disruption for some supporters already in the ukrainian city now having to make the extra journey back to give where temperatures will be around —10. there will be full coverage a cross be around —10. there will be full coverage across the bbc nader where a win will see arsenal topped the group they have qualified as of jealousy were in action. celtic need a win to keep them in contention. rangers are at home on a tight group g. manchester united have triggered the one—year extension to goalkeeper
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david kay is a contract which was due to run out next summer meaning you would have been able to speak to oversee clubs and find a precontract agreement from the 1st of january united want to keep their keeper and hope it will avoid any uncertainty over the players future heading into the january transfer window. jenkins received treatment on the pitch. jenkins received treatment on the pitch for several minutes after the final whistle with players from both sides going over to check on him. new rules will allow overseas cricketers to play for england after three years living in the country. and that means pace bowler jofra archer is now available for england. the 23—year—old was born in barbados but has an english father and a british passport. he's tweeted to say "it may or may not happen but i would love to debut in front of my family" england have a tour of west indies starting in january ahead
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of the world cup starting next may. and we're going to finish with some cheating in china. almost 250 runners were caught taking a shortcut during the shenzen half marathon. they were actually spotted by traffic cameras, and cut around 2 or 3 kilometres off the full 21km distance. all of those who cheated now face bans. that's just about it for now you can find more on all those stories, as wekk as the latest from snooker‘s uk championship — where ronnie o'sullivan beat amateur luke simmonds to set up a second round meeting with ken doherty.. that's all on the bbc sport website. that's dot uk slash sport, but that's all the sport for now.. all day we're looking at how brexit
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will affect health and the nhs, including the supply of vital medicines. lots of you have been getting in touch to ask questions. joining me in the studio now is layla mccay, the national health services' confederation director of international relations, and danny mortimer, co—chairman of the cavendish coalition and chief executive of nhs employers. welcome to you both. just a general question first, how much of your time is being spent thinking about contingencies for brexit?” certainly spent a very large chunk of my day whether it's thinking about how we can make sure that we get of the deal for brexit or whether we are thinking about how can we make sure that the nhs is as prepared as possible for all eventualities of. are you equally occupied? it probably is a site need —— a slightly more consuming for la ila —— a slightly more consuming for laila but it takes up a fair bit of time andl laila but it takes up a fair bit of time and i think particularly over
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this last 12 months is has been quite a lot of work to do around the migration policy and how that impacts upon us post brexit. first question to you from cassandra on twitter, can type one diabetics be assured there in cnn will be ready —— readily available? assured there in cnn will be ready -- readily available? ithink assured there in cnn will be ready -- readily available? i think this question of medicine supply will be one of the most noticeable impacts and we are all thinking about our health and if the withdrawal agreement is to go through, then things will continue pretty much as usual. so yes, you would expect that supplied to continue as it currently does. in the event that the withdrawal agreement does not go through, then we find ourselves in all sorts of different scenarios and with the ideal scenario obviously being the most extreme end of that, and in that case there will be probably interruptions to the supply of all sorts of different medicines. and, that's because there will be delays at the border, there may be
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regulatory differences that i've have the injuries and different things can happen. so the government is making sure that there's going to be discontinuous supplied throughout a variety of mechanisms and i think the one we hear most about a stockpiling, obviously there's all sorts of different medicines that may begin to be stockpiled but the government is developing different ways of making sure they come in. a lot about a bride —— relies on industry being able to stop those medicines and we hear there are challenges to that but what i think it's important to know is that we have worked with industry to make sure that these concerns have been fully understood by the government and they are now coming up with further contingencies. from simon in cumbria, he e—mailed to ask can we make the parking nhs staff pay back their training costs? this is a couple things i think the first is
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why is the nhs in this position? why does it have such a demand or staff and they can't fill the vacancies within the country? gertie we have some challenges in terms of keeping people. we no longer pay for the training of nurses and other health ca re training of nurses and other health care professionals and we only pay for a small amount of medical school costs of doctors so i think that's changed now in line with all university courses. but the simple fa ct university courses. but the simple fact is that our demand for people has grown quicker than we thought it would and our demand for people is growing quicker than the plans of the government onto recently in terms of investment in our services. so, we struggle to keep pace with actually the increase in emergency gear that we have seen, demand for emergency services which we touched on earlier today and we struggle to keep pace with the fact we are living longer and we will need more ca re living longer and we will need more care and that's important what we need to bring people in from the country as well as try to keep the people we have already.” country as well as try to keep the people we have already. i will brexit affect investment into
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research? in terms of cancer drugs, these are included in the stockpiling efforts and the other contingencies for things that can't be stockpiled. but i guess they're wider question about research is how do we continue our client as a leader in life sciences research and that the commitment we have heard from all players at all sides of the brexit debate and certainly there's a few different things, one is funding and we know that in the first instance the government has guaranteed their research funding that currently comes from the eu up to the end of 2020 and another thing isa to the end of 2020 and another thing is a bit more tricky is the research infrastructure, so if we were to continue to be involved in these big research collaborations that go across multiple countries in the eu that benefit our patients, you get to have access to the new individual treatments. then we need to be participating in that infrastructure and if you're out, it's a bit more tricky. and i think the third thing is people, we need the best and brightest leading research and certainly the uk is attracting those
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people and we need to think about how we can keep doing that. it's more a question of migration, not just the research but we also have to think about family and making sure they still continue to be attracted to the uk. why are we not retaining enough of our home train staff? a lot of them do decide to go and have a broad? again, it's a really important question, we do see particularly a number of our doctors in training choose to go and study abroad for a period of time and work abroad, most return to the uk like the doctor here to my right. and we benefit from that, other health care professionals going elsewhere in the world and helps our services and vice versa, we help other countries. again, we return and we are doing a huge amount more to try and attract more uk nationals into working the
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health service and expanding medical school places in coming years we are focusing a lot more untrained to improve the experience of our staff and receive a lot more generous pay settlements and other public services, there's a lot happening to try and keep people here in our services. again, we return to the point that they let touched on in terms of researchers. we need a migration system and we need an approach to bringing people in from abroad world in terms of researches and commissions and their families but also the need to people who make up but also the need to people who make up ourteams and but also the need to people who make up our teams and hospitals in social ca re up our teams and hospitals in social care and we can supplement the uk workforce and at the moment i think the government are struggling to articulate a migration system that meets all the needs we have in health and social care. a question from michelle, she e—mailed to ask why is the uk not manufacturing more medicines? making us less reliant on imports would you know the uk does already manufacture lots of medicines. we know that we received 37 million patient packs of
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medicines in from the eu every month. actually we are sending out 45 million patient packs of medicines. so, we have a lot of manufacturing here, i guess the thing is that over the decades of cooperation with the eu, all sorts of different manufacturing processes have been developed where as various medicines are manufactured the go back and forward across the border lots of times. if you think of car manufacturing, you know back and forward , manufacturing, you know back and forward, the manufacturers and the best places to get various bits and pieces done. so i think that there is no reliance on the ability to be able to cross back and forward across these borders and that's where the challenge is coming in at the moment. one final question for you both. it's a huge question and i need to ask you to answer a brief reprieve. jeff asks, will be nhs survive brexit? if the government can agree a deal, and if we can put in place a set of systems that
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support migration and support our services then yes, we can in terms of people. but it's a big service. the nhs is used the challenges, it used to dealing with emergency situations, what it may be needs to deal with this challenge as well as possible is to be as prepared as possible is to be as prepared as possible so if we can get some clarity in what's going to happen, if we can get some good operational advice, based upon that than the nhs should be fine. nhs confederation director of international relations, that's a long name badge to have. chief executive of nhs, thank you both very much for coming in and answering those questions. the shrewsbury and telford nhs trust, which is already being investigated over claims of poor maternity care, has been rated inadequate by inspectors. the care quality commission said staffing levels were not high enough to keep patients safe. staff told inspectors there was a "culture of bullying and harassment" at its hospitals, and "defensiveness" from its leaders. our social affairs correspondent
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michael buchanan reports. for 18 months, more and more families have come forward to raise questions about the maternity care they receive that is trust over nearly two decades. so far, more than 200 families have contacted an independent review of emergency services. why did you let me try a natural birth when you knew that there was something wrong with his head ? it could have been a completely different story. throughout, the trust have insisted that current care is safe, but today's report highlights a catalogue of failures. both maternity and accident and emergency are rated as inadequate for safety. staff say there was a culture of bullying and harassment. some of the executive team do not have the right skills and ability to provide high quality sustainable care. there is no doubt that the leadership was not creating the right culture in the organisation. staff told us they were fearful about raising concerns. that's not acceptable.
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staff need to be feeling free to raise concerns about safety for patients, and those concerns need to be acted upon. the trust was put into special measures earlier this month, due not just to failings in maternity but also because of long—standing problems in the a&e unit. critically ill patients left waiting hours to see a doctor and then more hours to be admitted to a hospital bed, because this is a trust that just cuts and cuts and cuts the number of available beds. given the extent of the problems, there are growing calls for the chief executive to resign, but simon wright said he won't walk away. i've worked on the nhs for nearly 25 years. my entire professional life has been part of that. i live in this community, my family live in this community. if i didn't think and believe that i was capable of leading this organisation, iwould have already walked away. the trust insist that care will improve and there are pockets of good practices within their inadequately—rated services.
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the problem on one level is they have not been able to hire enough staff across both hospitals for a while. the trouble that this particular airport points to whoever is at the trust has also been badly let at the moment. the recommendations the findings say that some of the leadership simply do not have the right skills and abilities to provide quality care is described as being defensive. they're described as having overseen the bullying culture according to staff at least. when you turn to the maternity feelings it actually begs belief that despite the fact that babies have died because of errors at this trust, some of the reasons
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that contributed to those deaths have still not been fully settled and fully sorted. take for instance monitoring babies heart rates property, the cdc say that is simply not happening at the moment. and also this inability to learn from actual mistakes and errors. i is not happening at the moment either according to the sea to sea and when you speak to any of the families who lost a child that this trust, the one thing they always say to you is i hope that nor the family goes through what we've gone through and what you find with this report is that that is quite probably does happen because there's a section where it says stop about highlight a single complaint that have made a difference to the care that they delivered. the world meteorological organisation has warned that countries are not on track to meet the climate change targets set at the paris summit in 2015. new united nations' figures show that global temperatures in 2018 are set to be the fourth highest on record. it comes as the un's secretary—general warned
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that the rise of nationalism around the world has reduced the will in some countries to work together to tackle the issue. roger harrabin reports. it was the summer that the uk sweltered. exports warned that this level of heat is likely to be the norm by next century. the high temperatures put 2018 on track to becoming the fourth warmest year on record globally. the 20 hottest years have now come in the last 22 years on the un says it is yet another warning. in the united kingdom alone we've seen an additional 1000 deaths in 2018, above the average, just from heat and the heatwave. those numbers are still coming in as the year comes to a close given that the country has experienced some of the hottest summers ever on record, this is a concerning trend which we are seeing continue over the term. in africa, climate extremes have contributed
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to a rise in hunger, the report says. 59 million people in 24 countries are said to have suffered erratic food supplies and malnutrition because of weather events. people living in areas with dry land farming and pastures are the most vulnerable. it seems like it's getting worse than predicted but the political view today is unfortunately not as high as it should be. countries are not doing what they committed to do in paris, or many countries are not doing what they committed to do in paris in what was committed in paris is not enough because it would lead to an increase in temperature over the century of more than three degrees, which would be a total disaster and we need to come back to half of it, and for that we need to have a more ambitious commitment by countries to reduce emissions. scientists say coral reefs won't survive the way temperatures are heading. they say every fraction of a degree of extra warming has a negative impact on economic productivity, on human health, on access to food and water and the extinction of plants,
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animals and marine life. they wonder when governments will act. roger harribin, bbc news. one of britain's biggest tour operators, thomas cook, has announced a 163—million—pound loss for the past year. that compares with a nine million pound profit in 2017. the firm said its uk business had been hit by the hot weather here over the summer, leading to less demand forforeign holidays. our business correspondent theo leggett reports. thomas cook specialises in taking people from cooler countries, like the uk, to regions where holiday sunshine is a bit more reliable. but this year there was a problem, britain basked in summer heat and foreign holidays lost their appeal. we had a very good start to the summer of 2018. and then the heatwave, all over europe, not only in the uk, in the nordic countries, and on the continent,
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had really an impact on customer behaviour. the company's earnings plummeted as it was forced to cut prices to fill planes and hotels. that hot summer does feel like a very long time ago, even so thomas cook is facing a number of other challenges. uncertainty over brexit, high debt levels, and how to keep the more traditional parts of its business when what consumers want is changing very rapidly. thomas cook is a large business. it has 21,000 staff, nearly half of them in the uk. it still operates nearly 600 high street stores, though hundreds have closed over the past two years. last year it had 22 million customers. some analysts believe its business model is outdated. thomas cook, obviously, is a well—established brand. it possibly has not kept up with the times. that brand is very traditional, but is it in pace with the new ways of booking travel? thomas cook has invested
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heavily in online services, and new, trendy hotels. it might insist it is unchanging but the reality is that faced with political uncertainty and a fast changing market, it may have little choice. theo leggett, bbc news. time for a look at the weather. here's the forecast: i've not been very popular in the last couple of days, not what the weather i provided. this is how it was looking yesterday, it's been pretty similar to that, quite a few power outages across some parts of the west country, due to the gills and severe gills today, we have had gusts of wind up to 70 plus miles an hour. granted those are in exposed locations but even some areas i did so in land have had some lively gusts of wind. it's all starting to ease at his own now, more like 30s and 40s gusts of wind from 50 to 70.
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there's lots of showers biking in and we have got lightning and thunder now across parts of devon and the showers you could see how energetic the atmosphere is at the moment. lots more of those two, as we go through the night. for scotla nd we go through the night. for scotland it looks like we will see persistent rain and some wintry mess over the hills. yes, it's not as cold, not as mild but there's enough wind and enough ground to prevent a frost. some subtle change in our air and the last hour or two. we have about low pressure with us tomorrow. tightly packed isoba rs about low pressure with us tomorrow. tightly packed isobars across more than half of the country but 50s, 60 mph, notan than half of the country but 50s, 60 mph, not an exception for scotland but we will have that to be reined in all those heavy showers for the morning rush it won't be a particularly pleasant drive. once again, further south is a cluster of showers like to date, some hail and some under around the coast but obviously over the hills as well. it will dampen down and did so across england and wales in the afternoon.
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white? because he had the next band of rain gathering behind as here and the temperatures tomorrow, three or 4 degrees down on recent days. it's not quite as mild buzz with the sunshine it does feel nicer. but it is not last. you can see that no ru ns is not last. you can see that no runs through on saturday more rain than, more rain due saturday night, a brief respite and then more further later on on sunday. so at the moment is not a wash—out for the weekend but we will like we had in recent days have these spells of persistent wet and windy weather and some dry weather follows and best chance of staying dry saturday and it's going to be in the north of scotla nd it's going to be in the north of scotland and northern ireland here. come sunday, one overnight band of rain cleared out and it looks drier in the south if anything the rain congregates hail snow across scotla nd congregates hail snow across scotland and temperatures are expected to get about six or seven celsius. so, it's stilla expected to get about six or seven celsius. so, it's still a mixed bag, temperatures as you can see where we have got back to air in the south and rain staying on the high side of average. in the north, the chance of
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things getting chilly. we have definitely changed our type from that trust and foggy weather to gills and rain. at 6:30pm. a damning report into a hospital trust — already being investigated for its maternity care. two services at shrewsbury and telford nhs trust have been rated inadequate — the chief executive says he won't go. i live in this community. my family live in this community. if i didn't think and believe that i was capable of leading this organisation i would have already walked away. as pressure mounts on the trust's leadership, we'll be examining what's gone so badly wrong. also tonight — figures show a record number of eu citizens left the uk last year — while increased numbers from outside the eu arrived. president trump's former lawyer michael cohen pleads guilty to a charge of lying to congress.
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