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this is bbc news, i'm shaun ley. the headlines at three. no delay to the vote — downing street insists tuesday's crucial commons vote will go ahead and the prime minster warns of ‘uncharted waters‘ if her deal is rejected. the brexit secretary urges mps to back the plan. the vote is going ahead and that's because it is a good deal, it's the only deal and it's important we don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. but leading brexiteer boris johnson insists the uk can negotiate a better settlement with the eu. we have to change it. it's a relatively simple job to do, we can have a withdrawal agreement that does not contain the backstop. we can do much, much better than this. police in new zealand investigating the murder of british backpacker grace millane say they have found a body. more than 1,700 arrests in france after another weekend of violent protests — police use tear gas and rubber bullets on the streets of paris and the french prime minister calls for unity.
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also in the next hour — there's discord at the united nations climate change conference — as scientists and delegates express concern over a key report. the us, russia, and others criticise an ipcc study into the impact of a 1.5—degree rise in global temperatures. raheem sterling hits back at the media forfuelling racism — as chelsea and the police investigate alleged racist abuse towards the manchester city striker at stamford bridge yesterday. and with climate change at the top of the un agenda, click asks if policy or technology will save the world. that's in half an hour here on bbc news. good afternoon.
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the brexit secretary stephen barclay has insisted the government will push ahead with the vote on the brexit deal in the house of commons on tuesday despite the possibility of theresa may's proposals being rejected. the former foreign secretary borisjohnson has said a defeat in parliament could strengthen the prime minister's hand in getting a better dealfrom the eu. he claims there'd be widespread cross—party support for the existing deal if the irish backstop proposals were removed. here's our political correspondent nick eardley. after more than two years of arguments and negotiations, this week parliament will pass itsjudgment — whether to accept theresa may's brexit deal or to try for something else. with most in westminster predicting defeat for the pm, some want the vote postponed. this morning, the brexit secretary said that wouldn't happen. the vote is going ahead and that's because it is a good deal. it's the only deal. and it's important that we don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
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we're moving to uncharted waters, yes. the prime minister is fighting for us and will continue in post. sorry, can she stay on as prime minister? yes, absolutely. she can stay on as prime minister if she loses the vote? yes. since the uk voted to leave, taking back control has meant different things to different people. delivering brexit has been far from simple. do not underestimate the deep sense of personal responsibility i feel for brexit and for everything that has happened. do not underestimate how much i care about this. this is fundamental to our country and it absolutely breaks my heart to think that after all that we fought for, all that we campaigned for, all that steve barclay campaigned for, everybody campaigned for, everybody believes in, that we should consign ourselves to a future in which the eu effectively rules us in many, many respects and yet we have no say round the table in brussels. that is an absurdity. the pm says without a backstop to prevent a hard border in ireland, there will be no deal.
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but mrjohnson disagrees and argues brussels might rethink. look at what romano prodi, the former eu commission president had to say yesterday. he said that if the house of commons votes down this deal — which i earnestly hope that we do — then the eu will of course negotiate. so far, the eu has shown no willingness to do so. mrjohnson was one of three senior brexiteers who refused to rule out leadership bids this morning — a sign of how uncertain the next few weeks in politics will be. but labour is planning its own takeover, too. when a government can't pass a key policy proposal, such as this, i'd question their legitimacy to carry on. but alternatively, she could offer to renegotiate around a deal that would provide concensus within parliament. whatever happens in the coming days, it's a crucial week in the brexit process and possibly for the future of british politics. nick eardley, bbc news. well, let's discuss what is going
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to happen this week, in the latest stage of the brexit process. with me isjohn rentoul, chief political commentator for the independent. also i'm joined byjames randerson, news editor at politico europe. unwelcome, james. we will come to you ina unwelcome, james. we will come to you in a moment. let's start with john. it's been said to the point of people are getting very irritated, this is one of the most important weeks in politics. can you just remind us why. it's very important. to be fair, there could be more important moments after words. but the reason tuesday is such an important moment is because this is the so—called meaningful vote to raise a promise parliament it would have right at the early stage of the negotiations. she said parliament would get the chance to say yes or no to whatever deal i bring back
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from brussels. it's written into law that her deal cannot take effect u nless that her deal cannot take effect unless parliament says yes. we don't know what's going to happen on tuesday night, all sorts could happen. one thing that isn't going to happen is parliament is not going to happen is parliament is not going to say to her deal. on this occasion? and that matters? we have a flexible constitution in this country. it's not an unwritten constitution but it is flexible, it operates by precedent largely. there is nothing in the constitution that says the prime minister can'tjust have another go. if she doesn't get them to vote yes for it this time, that doesn't mean the deal falls. it doesn't mean that she falls or there isa doesn't mean that she falls or there is a general election. as long as her party will prop her up, as long as she commands the majority in the commons, she can come back and asked to vote again once she has tried to eliminate all the other options such
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as renegotiation, no deal and the referendum. let me bring in james who is in brussels. the action, as it were, james, would head back to your city to the heads of government meeting in brussels as happens at the end of this week for the scheduled regular summit. we've heard there is an alternative to this deal. is that really what people think privately? if the house of commons were to put it down, would be say to theresa may, sorry, that's the only show in town? sio yes. he suggested all they had to do was try a little bit harder and come up was try a little bit harder and come up witha was try a little bit harder and come up with a better deal that doesn't have that awkward backstop. frankly, that feels quite a long way from the reality on the side of the channel. in brussels, diplomats say to us consistently that this is pretty much the best deal that is possible.
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there really isn't much movement, particularly under backstop, there is no question of being able to excise it from the deal. one diplomat joked excise it from the deal. one diplomatjoked to us excise it from the deal. one diplomat joked to us that perhaps excise it from the deal. one diplomatjoked to us that perhaps it might be possible to change the font oi'i might be possible to change the font on the document, that gives you a sense of the kind of changes that might be doable hair. obviously that sort of thing is not going to lose the dial on its own very much in the uk. you mentioned boris johnson, he has seized in remarks made by romano prodi any bbc interview yesterday. she said i know this is not prevailing opinion in brussels that this needs goodwill on both sides but i hope there is still room for dialogue, in my political life, i did everything possible to get an agreement when there was a big problem on the table. i suppose that is the hope people like boris johnson and others have, if the vote goes against theresa may brussels
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would see the problem because they wa nt to would see the problem because they want to deal properly as much if not more than we do, they would come up with something. they would certainly be prepared to keep talking. but i think the key thing in what you just said is that they want the deal as much if not more. a no deal scenario is obviously bad for both sides, but it's much worse for the uk. they cottoned on to that very early and they know that britain it really doesn't want to know the other scenario either. i think from brexiteer is, there was a degree of misleading of the eu site right from the start. they didn't really appreciate the public dynamic of this negotiation and that power is very much on the brussels end of things. —— power. they also thought there would be political pressure in eu capitals to give the uk a cushy
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deal and carry on with frictionless trade. we've heard a lot about german car— makers trade. we've heard a lot about german car—makers and french champion grew worse and so one. it was not the case that they came out in favour of a cushy deal through the uk, in fact the opposite. a couple of weeks ago i was talking to the head of the bdi, the premier industry association in germany, and they put a lot of effort into trying to understand and prepare for brexit, they put together this task force of 250 people to try and work oi'i force of 250 people to try and work on it and they came to the conclusion that the vast majority of their value comes from the integrity of the single market. far from putting pressure on angela merkel to say, come on, let's give the brits and easy deals we can keep selling into the british market, they said we want the political priority to be protecting the integrity of the single market and you've seen that
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in the negotiations. let's assume that the vote goes down and theresa may is defeated on tuesday. how keen do you think some of her backbenchers who voted no on that occasion might then be to be persuaded to come at the very least, agostino next time around? abstentions would help her. agostino next time around? abstentions would help henm would. the thing about mps, you know how they behave, they do not like abstaining on really big important issues. they were said to westminster to present their constituents and they think it's their duty to vote and to decide difficult questions, they don't like abstaining. that is one escape. i think the really difficult thing is that theresa may has failed to do is to sell the backstop. people simply
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do not understand the backstop. it is an arrangement to keep the irish border open but an arrangement we cannot as a sovereign nation get out of without the permission of the eu. that obviously is fairly unprecedented in international treaties, but instead of focusing on that aspect mps ought to be, in my opinion, focusing on what the backstop is four and the point of the backstop is to keep the irish border open. if they're in favour of having a hard order or controls and checks on the irish border they should say so, because keeping the irish border is something they should want to keep open. she hasn't managed to persuade them. there are too many hard brexit conservative mps who don't really care about the irish border. they say we can deal with a hard order, we can manage it. nobody will notice. but her problem
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is she cannot persuade labour mps to support because she needs labour opposed to get this through and so far she's made absolutely no headway in persuading them to back the government. i want to pick up on that in a moment, but let's stay with labour. this is a very unusual situation where a prime minister could find her prospects dependent on the support of the opposition party when her own party desert her. it has happened before but it's pretty unusual. on big votes it happens quite often, the iraq vote for example. of the labour backbencher deserted tony blair on that but he was covered because he has support from the conservatives. he had lots of ministerial people as well. and we went into europe in the first baseman 1970s, ted heath 2000 with labour votes. something like that will have to happen this time. what is quite surprising is how little effort theresa may has made to persuade labour mps to vote for
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her deal. you surprised she's spent time trying to persuade the public rather than being at westminster, i'm sure she has been seen people privately, but she spent quite a number of days on this tour of the uk. the tour was a bit nominal, she went to a couple of places and did a tv interview. she is trying to mobilise public opinion because public opinion is more favourable to her deal than opinion in the house of commons. that is one way she hopes to put pressure on mps to vote for her. it's an insurance policy in case she is forced to hold a referendum because then she is very dry runfor referendum because then she is very dry run for the referendum campaign. the thing we sometimes forget when we talk about this, in a very heated way, the whole process of getting to theresa may's withdrawal agreement and whether it goes through on tuesdayis and whether it goes through on tuesday is that's only stage one and stage two is negotiating our relationship once we've let the eu and got through the transition
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period, beyond 2020. when you compare what you've seen over the last couple of years, do you think the british are ready for this process and how detailed and intends it could be carving out a trade deal? one thing to saying is that britain of course has handed its trade negotiating power to brussels in recent decades because of being pa rt of in recent decades because of being part of the eu. they've been trying to catch up and learn lots of things about trade deals in the meantime. the difficulty about the next bit of the negotiation, ithink the difficulty about the next bit of the negotiation, i think that britain still hasn't really worked out what it wants as to this future relationship. i think we are seeing that at the moment and were also seeing that political declaration allows for all sorts of outcomes to
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be possible, which is one of the reasons that some mps don't like it because it doesn't give enough certainty about what that brexit bill is campaigning for. there is an awful lot still to be worked out. there is an extra complication about that, which is that this part of the deal only had to be ratified by the european parliament and the british parliament and get the agreement of the eu 27 leaders. parts of the next bit of the negotiation will have to be ratified by the 40 or more parliaments and regional parliaments around europe, average the eu 27, and we sort from... you're going to see the balloons, aren't you? people who we have not heard from in this process at all may well be able to
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make their feelings felt in perhaps a very inconvenient way britain. we will be grateful to hear from some of our audience that about that because that delayed the canada trade deal caused a last—minute panic in the end it went through but it underlined how one small part of the eu could still trip up this process. james is absolutely right. none of that has been decided. to be isa is none of that has been decided. to be is a is entitled to see the political declaration does not owe some of the options and set some objectives. there is still an awful lot of negotiating to come. james, john, thank you. i am sure we will get more opportunities to talk again over the coming months. the headlines on bbc news... downing street says mps will vote on theresa may's brexit agreement on tuesday — as borisjohnson insists the uk can negotiate a better deal.
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a body is found by police investigating the murder of british backpacker grace millane in new zealand. france's prime minister calls for unity as 1,700 people are arrested in a fourth weekend of violent protests. and in sport, raheem sterling has blamed media coverage forfuelling racism and aggressive behaviour as chelsea and the met police investigate alleged racial abuse of the manchester city player at sta mford the manchester city player at stamford bridge last night. rangers have come from behind and are drawing with dundee, they will be second in the scottish premiership is the score stands. dundee are down to ten men and the final whistle had blown. rangers are second in the scottish premiership. ronnie o'sullivan are going for a record seventh title at the uk snooker championship leading 4—2 in york in the best of 19 frames. i will have more on all those stories in the
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next hour. now back to brexit. there have been a number of demonstrations going on today — the founder of the english defence league, tommy robinson, joined a pro—brexit march in cental london, organised by ukip. a counter—protest against so—called far—right extremists was also being organised to take place at the same time. both demonstrations took place close to one another. our correspondent richard galpin was with the pro brexit demonstators. this is just one of severral rallies and marches taking place here in london today, two days ahead of the all—important vote in parliament on brexit. in which, obviously, they will decide whether they accept theresa may's deal which she's agreed with brussels. now, this has been organised by ukip, the uk independence party, a right—wing party which is very much behind brexit, but they're not happy with the deal which the british prime minister has agreed with brussels and they want to get out of the eu completely. now, there are other rallies taking
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place by remainers and people who want to have a second referendum on brexit. now, here there is an edge, in a sense, that a far—right activist called tommy robinson is here, you can hear them chanting his name now. he's been accused of being a fascist, being a racist, charges of course which he denies. our correspondent james waterhouse is with the counter demonstrators march and we can join him now. ican i can see behind you a landmark which tells me you're in trafalgar square but not much sign of the marchers. you would be correct on the former. things have turned to relative normality for now. it has been an eventful afternoon. as far as counterprotest school there were
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around 2000 people. it started in the west end of london by the bbc headquarters and became down to here. where we are now it is really different flash points came up your opposition marchers would provoke and goad the demonstrators from the sidelines. the most remarkable thing was how quickly the police responded and in large numbers. it was quite a sizeable task. the even blocked the road at some points to try and halt proceedings. but precede the dead and they made their way down towards whitehall, straightaway down there. if you speeches were made. behind the stage, there were 100 metres where police had used to barriers between the demonstration and the brexit betrayal marched further down the road past the cenotaph in parliament square. it was quite a sizeable operation on both fronts today. james waterhouse in trafalgar square, thank you very much. police in new zealand — investigating the murder of british
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backpacker grace millane — says they've found a body on the outskirts of auckland. they believe it is that of the 22—year—old from essex but so far there's been no formal identification. a 26—year—old man has been charged with her murder. phil mercer has the details. how and why grace millane died will be the focus of an intense investigation that new zealand police say is far from over. a body found in a forest in the waitakere ranges, a beauty spot with hiking trails a short drive from auckland, is thought to be that of the university graduate from essex. police say the remains were discovered close to a main road. we located a body which we believe to be grace. the formal identification process will now take place. however, based on the evidence we have gathered over the past few days, we expect that this is grace. obviously, this brings the search for grace to an end. this is an unbearable time for the millane family and our hearts go out to them. grace millane was last seen on security video at a hotel
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in auckland more than a week ago. the 26—year—old man she was with has been charged with her murder and is due in court tomorrow. the backpacker‘s father, david, arrived in new zealand on friday to make a public appeal for help in finding his daughter. he said she was fun loving and outgoing. 11,000 miles away in england, there have been prayers for the family at their local church in essex. miss millane graduated from lincoln university in september. she'd been travelling alone in new zealand for a fortnight, following a trip through south america. it was supposed to have been the adventure of a lifetime. phil mercer, bbc news, sydney. in paris, the clean up has begun after a day and night of more protests and violence by the so—called ‘yellow vest‘ movement. the french finance minister has said the violence
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is a catastrophe for the nation‘s commerce and economy. and it will affect the growth rate. amid the unrest, looting broke out and shops and storefronts were hit. the demonstrations are over rising living costs and dissatisfaction with president macron. police arrested nearly 1,700 people, while more than 100 were injured needing hospital treatment. it‘s being reported in the french media that president macron will make a major announcement next week in a televised address. lucy williamson reports from paris on a night of trouble. they called it a protest. at times, it looked more like a game of urban war. groups of protestors fanned through the capital‘s streets. from the arc de triomphe to republique, boulevards once built to open the veins of the city filled with tear gas, burning vehicles and riot police. the police were well prepared for this confrontation, with armed vehicles,
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new tactics and bag searches, seizing gas masks and helmets and anything that could be used against police. the tear gas, far stronger than usual, took many protestors by surprise. and rapid reaction squads, marked out by orange armbands, were stationed among the protestors to spot trouble and make early arrests. despite the violence of previous protests, this movement still has the backing of many voters in france. its members proud of their lack of leadership and the diversity of their support. but this movement is already splintering into two kinds of protest — one that looks towards a new political programme and a violent wing, opposed to any negotiation that‘s hard to exclude, even harder to control. lucy williamson, bbc news, paris. france‘s foreign minister has told us president donald trump not to interfere in french politics.
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the president took to social media to comment on what‘s been happening in paris, pointing out that the city at the heart of the demonstrations against a rise in fuel taxes was the same one where, three years ago, countries had pledged to cut climate changing emissions. president trump tweeted. .. in response, the french foreign ministerjean eave le drei said, "we do not take domestic american politics into account and we want that to be reciprocated. leave our nation be." scientists and delegates at a un climate conference in poland have expressed alarm, after it failed to incorporate a key scientific text, which outlines how to limit the effects of climate change. the ipcc report — on the impact of a 1.5—degree
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celsius temperature rise — was released in october. but now the us, russia, saudi arabia and kuwait have all objected to the conference welcoming it. our environment correspondent, matt mcgrath reports. wa ke wake up! taking to the streets of thousands of protesters from around the world have descended on the city to make their voice is heard saying that more needs to be done to protect the world from the devastating impacts of climate change. we need to do something now, action right now, not tomorrow, not in11 action right now, not tomorrow, not in 11 years but no. there are people here who have been affected by rising sea levels such as in the philippines and in japan. rising sea levels such as in the philippines and injapan. it is everybody‘s problem. philippines and injapan. it is everybody's problem. fires are intensifying, indigenous people, the governments and parties are not doing what they need to. the queue to get attention of the negotiators
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at the climate talks. delegates are trying to agree new targets on carbon emissions. serious divisions have emerged about two critical scientific study. the report published in october by the world‘s leading climate change body size in order to prevent drought and extreme poverty temperatures must not rise by1.5 poverty temperatures must not rise by 1.5 degrees the century. to do that emissions must be cut in half over the next 12 years. what‘s been described as a leader could row over words masks a much deeper divide. nearly all the countries here want to embrace the ipcc report to bolster the case for rapid carbon cuts. that‘s something the us, saudi arabia and some others are keen to avoid. there is lots of frustrations, the us, the saudis and the russians working together to prevent signs of being at the heart of this report. they are the ones saying... it really raises the sta kes for saying... it really raises the stakes for next week. talks will
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resume easier tomorrow with over 120 ministers from around the world due to arrive. most delegates will hope they can reassert the key role of signs in guiding the talks. a uk made instrument has captured the sound of the wind on mars. wind rushes despite not being designed to pick up sound — the seismometer, carried on nasa‘s insight lander, detected vibrations from the martian air as it rushed over the probe‘s solar panels. nasa‘s insight spacecraft is the latest robotic resident on the red planet, sent there to study its geology. now it‘s time for a look at the weather with susan powell. hello. sunday brought us some sharp shadows but also brought a fairly generous amount of sunshine. hopefully you saw at least some of that at some stage because sunshine
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will be in short supply. for this evening and overnight it‘s a story of largely clear skies but still some sharp words for northern ireland and the west of england, the midlands and north wales. clear skies are setting up for a widespread frost. milderfurther west and south, loads of five or 4 degrees. monday is fine and bright with plenty of sunshine first thing. as the day goes on we will start to pick up some high cloud from the west and then by the afternoon that will start to thicken, turning murky across the hills and close, drizzle across the hills and close, drizzle across northern ireland pushing into western scotland. eastern counties getting the best of the brightness. temperatures ranging from four in aberdeen to 12 in plymouth.


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