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this is bbc news. i'm shaun ley. the headlines at six. downing street says there'll be no delay of tuesday's crucial commons vote, on the government's plans for leaving the european union. in london, thousands attend rival rallies two days before the mps vote — as one leading brexiteer says a better deal with the eu can still be negotiated. we have to change it, it's a relatively simple job to do, we can have a withdrawal agreement that does not contain the backstop. we can do much, much better than this. police in new zealand investigating the murder of british backpacker grace millane say they have found a body. i don't think i'll be alive in ten years, personally. charlie rowley, a survivor of the salisbury novichok poisoning, says he fears the nerve agent will eventually kill him. also in the next hour — there's discord at the united nations climate change conference — as scientists and delegates express concern over a key report. the us, russia, and others criticise
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an ipcc study into the impact of a 1.5 degree rise in global temperatures. and police investigate alleged racist abuse against the manchester city striker raheem sterling. hello, very good evening to you. welcome to bbc news. the government says there will be no cancellation of tuesday's commons vote on theresa may's brexit plans, dismissing speculation it could be dropped or delayed. the brexit secretary stephen barclay says the prime minister is fighting hard to win, and would stay on, even if the deal the government says there will be no cancellation of tuesday's commons
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vote on theresa may's brexit plans, dismissing speculation it today the leave supporting former foreign secretary boris johnson, said a defeat in parliament, could strengthen theresa may's hand, in getting a better deal from the eu, and he claims there'd be widespread cross—party support for her plans, if proposals for the irish backstop, were removed. here's our political correspondent iain watson. is she seeking divine intervention? theresa may attended church in her constituency this morning, she's weathered many political storms but she's still having to fight for a deal and for herjob. some ministers think the outlook is so bleak she should postpone this week's crucial commons vote. but the brexit secretary said it won't be called off. the vote is going ahead. it is a good deal. it's the only deal. and it's important we don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. we are in uncharted waters. yes, the primer still will continue in post but the question...
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-- the prime minister is fighting for us. can she stay on as prime minister? absolutely, yes. the brexit secretary vote to leave the eu but his better—known colleague was a face of the campaign. borisjohnson was asked in parliament this week what is big idea was now? today he revealed it, bringing back some of the divorce bill until we get a better deal. unless they help us, then there is a risk of no deal. and to incentivise them further we should say that we will delay the payment of at least half the 39... can i finish this? add least half of the 39 billion until they've done a free trade deal and that's the way to put a bit of a tiger in the tank. if he doesn't like theresa may's deal, would he like to replace her as conservative leader? i will give you a categorical promise that i will continue to advocate for what i think is sensible... you are going to stand against her. the most sensible plan
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to get out of this mess. the peoples vote campaign believes the final say on brexit should not be left to politicians at all, and at a rally in east london, this labour shadow minister wanted her party leadership to do the same. the promises made in 2016 are so far removed from the reality of the 585 page withdrawal agreement, that it is time to take the brexit decision back to the people. the cabinet minister amber rudd has talked about the possibility of another referendum if theresa may's deal falls, and another government minister today says it looks increasingly likely, but mps have to vote for it. and the attitude of labour's leadership could be crucial but they seem to be in no hurry to commit. we will keep all options on the table, and that includes a public vote but we would have to go through a number of different scenarios to reach that stage. many mps are raining
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on the prime minister's parade uniting on her deal but deciding on an alternative is more complex. and iainjoins us now. it is hard to predict what will happen tuesday. can we say there has not been any material shift in support for the prime minister's deal? i think that is true and we may as well stick to the fact billy backpacks. one of the ministers was asked today, he persuaded people to back the deal, he is backing it. he said he persuaded precisely one person to back the deal but people moving into another direction, was not desperately well known until he resigned but he was in the lower rungs of the ministerial ladder and he decided over a number of weeks to go see the prime minister, the attorney general, discuss his concerns and at the end of it he
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said no to backing the deal. just at that time theresa may needs to solidify supporters is ebbing away. the widespread view is that this will be lost but we don't know by how much and what happens next. on that what happens next, there was a time when we could asked reasonably... we would probably have been moving to the stage of the general election not long after, but it is not that simple anymore. no, it is not that simple anymore. no, it is not that simple anymore. no, it is not. it theresa may loses technically she had 21 days to come up technically she had 21 days to come up with alternative plan to tell the comments what she's doing. that becomes a slightly more complicated and because there have been amendments so it could be well that her plan is changed by mps. what she comes back with will not necessarily be what persists. that is the first thing to bear in mind. the second is we might expect the opposition to put down eight confidence motion. ——
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a confidence motion. my understanding is they will not be putting that motion down and that is because they do not have the dup onside, they're not desperately keen onside, they're not desperately keen onjeremy corbyn, onside, they're not desperately keen on jeremy corbyn, and onside, they're not desperately keen onjeremy corbyn, and therefore it is likely she would survive it. the question is why bother doing it? you can almost strengthen her by default. exactly. effectively she might as well... is that a possibility? there is that option. i don't know if it has been discussed. some people say she has to do something dramatic if she loses it and have some kind of symbol of whether she will continue and to quickly regain the initiative so we will see but it is not something they are openly discussing. what they are openly discussing. what they were discussing amongst themselves was whether the vote itself should be postponed in the first place given the certain defeat and againi first place given the certain defeat and again i know somewhere urging them to make a final decision tomorrow, not today. but certainly the line coming out from downing street is that she will push ahead, so street is that she will push ahead,
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soi street is that she will push ahead, so i think that is why even have this discussion on what ought to happen next. it is not impossible if there is a big defeat. the brexiteer was saying he thought the numbers of mps necessary to trigger an internal conservative leadership contest was getting closer, perhaps only about six short but that is how futile the atmosphere is. she could face a challenge, she could be shaken and given space to renegotiate or she could get turned over by parliament oi’ could get turned over by parliament or she could just walk away. she could presumably say i no longer have the authority and confidence in my party. i cannot go any further than i have done. i have done my best. someone also had to take this on. she could. my instinct is again not based on her because if you talk to people there might be a discussion about tactics but not about her future. that said, herbal
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character seems to be some use the word resilient. she knows she's been dealt a bad hand. word resilient. she knows she's been dealta bad hand. she word resilient. she knows she's been dealt a bad hand. she said previously i got you into this mess andi previously i got you into this mess and i will get you out of his life think she will have one more goal in seeing if brussels can get something renegotiated in at least the margins. one more go i think with mps as well. or it is potentially no deal at all were something you do not like as a consequence, for example the possibility of another referendum. so, it put another date in the diary 21 days from tuesday if it does not get voted through. and of course we'll be keeping you up to date every step of the way. here on the bbc news channel we'll be bringing you full coverage of every development as mps head in to the final days of debate before that all important vote on the prime ministers brexit deal on tuesday evening. we'll be live in westminster from 11:00 tomorrow morning, here on the bbc news channel and bbc two. meanwhile, a demonstration billed as a brexit betrayal march,
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saw thousands of people take to the streets of london. the rally, organised by ukip, was attended by the activist tommy robinson, who's recently been given an advisory role with the party. the march was put under tight restrictions by the police, fearing clashes with an anti, tommy robinson counter demonstration. police in new zealand investigating the murder of the british backpacker grace millane, say they've found a body, on the outskirts of the city auckland. they believe it is that of the 22—year—old from essex, but so far, there's been no formal identification. tomorrow at 26—year—old man will appear in court in auckland charged with her murder. phil mercer reports. how and why grace millane died will be the focus of an intense investigation that new zealand police say is far from over. a body found in a forest
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in the waitakere ranges, a beauty spot with hiking trails a short drive from auckland, is thought to be that of the university graduate from essex. police say the remains were discovered close to a main road. we located a body which we believe to be grace. the formal identification process will now take place but based on the evidence we have gathered over the past few days we expect that this is grace. obviously this brings the search for grace to an end. it is an unbearable time for the millane family and our hearts go out to them. grace millane was last seen on security video at a hotel in auckland more than a week ago. the 26—year—old man she was with has been charged with her murder and is due in court tomorrow. the backpacker‘s father david arrived in new zealand on friday to make a public appeal for help in finding his daughter. he said she was fun—loving and outgoing. miss millane graduated from lincoln university in september. she had been travelling alone
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in new zealand for a fortnight following a trip through south america. it was supposed to have been the adventure of a lifetime. phil mercer, bbc news, sydney. scientists and delegates at a un climate conference in poland have expressed alarm, after it failed to incorporate a key scientific text, which outlines how to limit the effects of climate change. the ipcc report — on the impact of a 1.5 degree celsius temperature rise — was released in october. it examines the likely effects on the world's climate. but now the us, russia, saudi arabia and kuwait have all objected to the conference welcoming it. our environment correspondent, matt mcgrath reports. wake up! taking to the streets of katowice, thousands of protesters from around the world have descended on this city to make their voices heard,
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saying more needs to be done to protect the world from the devastating impacts of climate change. we need to do something now, we need action right now, not tomorrow, not in 11 years but now. there are people here who have already been affected by rising sea levels, such as in the philippines and injapan. it is everybody's problem. fires are intensifying, floods are drowning communities indigenous people are leaving, the parties, the governments are not doing what they need to do. they're here to get the attention of negotiators at the un's climate talks. inside the meeting, delegates are trying to agree new targets on carbon emissions. but serious divisions have emerged about a critical scientific study. the report, published in october by the world's leading climate change body, says in order to prevent drought, flooding and extreme poverty for millions of people, temperatures must not rise by more than 1.5 degrees this century.
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to do that, emissions must be cut in half over the next 12 years. what's been described as a ludicrous row over words masks a much deeper divide. nearly all the countries here want to embrace the ipcc report to bolster the case for rapid carbon cuts. but that's something the us, saudi arabia and some others are very keen to avoid. there is a huge amount of frustrations. the us, the saudis and the russians are working together to prevent science being at the heart of this process. they agreed the ipcc report. they are the ones seeing the climate changing. there are businesses, investors, citizens pushing for more climate action. it really raises the stakes for next week. talks will resume here tomorrow with over 120 ministers from around the world due to arrive. most delegates will be hoping they will be able to reassert the key role of science in guiding the talks. matt mcgrath, bbc news, katowice. the french prime minister edouard philippe, has vowed to restore national unity, after the fourth weekend of protests over rising fuel taxes
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and living costs by so called "yellow vest" demonstrators. there were more than 2,000 arrests in clashes with police yesterday. president macron is expected to make an address to the nation on the protests, tomorrow. an 18—year—old teenager has been stabbed to death at a block of flats in south—east london. paramedics from the london air ambulance were called to the scene in greenwich last night, but were unable to save him. a 17—year—old boy has been arrested. the headlines on bbc news: downing street says mps will vote on theresa may's brexit agreement on tuesday — as borisjohnson insists the uk can negotiate a better deal. a body is found by police investigating the murder of british backpacker grace millane in new zealand. the us, russia, and others criticise an ipcc study into the impact of a 1.5—degree rise in global temperatures — as the un climate change conference continues.
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lets return to brexit — and with the vote on the prime minister's proposed brexit withdrawal dealjust two days away, has she done enough to convince the electorate? nina warhurst has been touring the north west of england talking to voters about how they think the brexit process is going, and whether the prime minister's deal should be supported. herfinal report comes from the village of tarleton. this is windy tarleton, west lancashire, where 55% voted leave. there are jobs to be had in these rural communities. few people claim benefits, standards of education are higher than average. i'm clive, i'm a farmer, and i voted remain. i'm george, i'm also a farmer, and i voted to leave. when it came to the vote,
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families were divided then, and wondering now what is next. i don't think a lot of people saw the implications of how hard it was going to be to get out of all this lot. you voted remain, but would you back the current deal? yeah. i don't think there's anybody out there that is going to be able to get a better deal out of what we're doing at the moment, and i think we should leave theresa may alone and let her get on with it. and do her damnedest for us. is there a part of you, george, that thinks, "i wish i voted remain"? a little. just because i think that now we're not going to get the correct deal. it's not going to be the brexit you envisaged? no. no, i don't think it will be. i think we might have to eat a little bit of humble pie and see what comes of that. with red cabbage on the side. 0h, i'd love some red cabbage on the side. this area's mp is close to the prime minister. she thinks theresa may's built the right deal for tarleton.
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not all of ta rleton is terribly fussed. my name's chris. i'm a tree surgeon, and i voted to remain. nothing really will change, because to trade with the eu, we'll have to agree to their rules. so you think there'll be no difference for you? not really, no. you don't look that worried, then, chris. i think a lot of people are past caring, aren't they? but they say to get angry is to care, and some who weren't interested when the vote happened are certainly bothered by brexit now. i'm kelly. i'm a barber. i didn't vote because i was on holiday. when i say brexit, what's your reaction? oh, don't talk to me about that! all the customers talk to us about brexit all the time, and they're all fed up with listening to it. it's always on the telly, and nothing ever seems to get done. what should they do? get on with it. make a decision and stick to it. life feels good in tarleton now,
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and whether they become winners or losers, they're getting their brexit wish. there've been a series of rallies taking place in london well lets discuss what is going to happen this week, in the latest stage of the brexit process. i'm joined by dr simon kaye, who's the research director at the project for modern democracy think tank. he previously worked as an academic at king's college london. thank you for coming in. thank you. you have been looking at one of the complicating factors with brexit, picking up on a phrase the prime minister has used the last few days about there really being three alternatives, her deal, no—deal brexit or no brexit at all. how does that translate when you try and map that translate when you try and map that on the views of the public? that translate when you try and map that on the views of the public7m isa that on the views of the public7m is a huge problem. it's going to be a problem for the prime minister, for mps a problem for the prime minister, formps in the a problem for the prime minister, for mps in the commons right now and if we do get something like a
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people's vote as it's been called, a second referendum, we will end up with the problem for the people in the country as well. what it comes down to is that we are used in the uk in british politics to talking about two big options that have been polarized at different ends of the referendum, and now we're in a situation where, and this has been the way the prime mr has framed things, we have three options. there isa things, we have three options. there is a centre, a middle ground option and when you have three possible options that have been seriously considered in a democracy you end up with very strong paradoxes —— very strange paradox is that by what sort of problem arises from that in terms of problem arises from that in terms of the acceptability of whatever outcome we ultimately end up with? if you have these three options it stands to reason that at some point, especially if they're closely considered options, all with a potential to do well in the public we re potential to do well in the public were among mps, when you put them in order of preference, you might prefer something in the middle to
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something at the start, something else at the end of than you did at the beginning, and that no one option at the end of that process will be the majority preference. in other words, a majority might exist against all three possible outcomes, remain, no deal and the government's deal. politically then, that is quite a considerable problem in terms of the legacy of whatever version we end up with, because it has to have some kind of public credibility and the public have got to a cce pt credibility and the public have got to accept the outcome. this is it. if we are asking the public to accept an outcome, either one that is come up with in the middle of a deliberative process in the house of commons, an attempt being made right now, or commons, an attempt being made right now, 01’ one commons, an attempt being made right now, or one that comes about as a result of a second referendum, they might have really strong grounds, not only to doubt whether it is democratic. we're hearing a lot about this, to have a second referendum, but to look at those results and to wonder whether well,
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we know there is a majority against this perspective. we know for example is something like theresa may's deal came through on second preference is, if that is the way the referendum was structured, the legitimacy of it would be really difficult to establish. because enough people would have put it second that it would overtake what was the first choice for the —— of the different three options. it would have more support but not because it was the most preferred option. that is it. in this country we are seeing winners win, we are used to people winning when they get that most first preference votes. in order to find our way between these three options orfour order to find our way between these three options or four options if the norway option becomes important to the next few days, who knows what will happen, people are going to start thinking about more than just their first preferences, and those are on a ballot paper somewhere or seriously considered in the house of commons it becomes clear that people be going up at their second choice perhaps. one of the critics made of
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the original referendum, i've heard by some academics who argue of referendums with more than one question is the problem with a simple yes or no a you polarize people. he forced them to make a very stark choice —— you force them to make a very, very stark choice, would you have said is quite complicated and there are lots of variables and now we argue about what did people over anyway? to lose but that's be the single market and the customs union, ligue onejuan perez not the other, leave the eu with no consideration of other issues, did they vote on some com pletely issues, did they vote on some completely unrelated matter that influence their decision to vote yes oi’ influence their decision to vote yes 01’110. influence their decision to vote yes or no. is there an argument that if you have more than one question you might actually take some of the heat out of this? that is absolutely possible, and there are ups and downs, pros and cons to both approaches if a second referendum comes about. splitting the question into two sets, so one saying yes or no on brexit altogether and up or down on whether you like theresa may's deal or no deal at all, those are the main things you might consider them, and that would simplify the choices, but as you say
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it isa simplify the choices, but as you say it is a polarising option. people are asked to decide under black and white on very complex and nuanced issues. we have all been learning i think over the last two years just how complex these questions are. any democracy, if it is going to revolve around upper —— revolve around a voting process or aggregate of prices of any kind as to reduce those options down, has two simple and exaggerate, but that doesn't mean you necessarily get us the best outcomes or indeed to most legitimate seeming outcomes, and thatis legitimate seeming outcomes, and that is the real risk with any decision process that will end up with brexit. you talk about the paradox of preference is particularly relating it to public opinion. ultimately, this measure, at least it is down to the mps. is the same pattern visible there? yes. i think we can see very clearly, it has been a truism for a little while now that there is not a majority for any given model of brexit in the house of commons, and indeed i would goa house of commons, and indeed i would go a little further and say there is probably a majority against every single model in the commons because
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for the first time because of the introduction of the deal from the government we have gone from two binary options to three, and that has made all the difference. simon, research director at the project for modern democracy think tank, fascinating stuff. thank you very much for going through it with us. charlie rowley, one of the survivors of the salisbury novichok poisoning, says he's worried the substance will eventually kill him, and he's terrified for the future. he became ill along with his partner dawn sturgess who later died, after coming into contact with the bottle containing the nerve agent, used to attack sergei and julia skripal in march. our home affairs correspondent june kelly has more. it is six months since charlie rowley witnessed his partner dawn stu rgess collapse. she was convulsing and foaming at the mouth. i phoned 999. i was getting medical advice on how to revive her. you know, mouth to mouth.
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dawn sturgess had become an unintended victim of the nerve agent novichok. charlie rowley had found what he thought was a discarded bottle of perfume and given it to dawn. in fact, it contained novichok and she sprayed it on her wrist. just over a week later, she was dead. i felt that i poisoned my girlfriend, and that was the hardest thing to deal with. charlie rowley had also came into contact with the nerve agent. he was taken from his home in wiltshire to salisbury district hospital, staff there saved his life but he's now spoken to the sunday mirror newspaper of the damage the novichok has done to his health. my eyesight is still not right. i can't function properly. ijust feel a bit done in.
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i haven't gone completely blind. i was seeing like double vision, which was confusing. it's worrying and confusing. plus they were telling me i had numerous strokes. and he's trying to go on while living with a loss of dawn. all the time i dream about her. i wish it had been me who died. our correspondentjune kelly reporting there. now how do you give fossils a future? well, you put them online, and that's exactly what london's natural history museum and washington's smithsonian institute in the us, have set out to do. they're digitally recording millions
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of fossils in their collections., many of which have been hidden away in drawers for decades. our science correspondent victoria gill, has the story. so, we're in our brachiopod collection. tucked into thousands of drawers, the entire history of life on earth. there's dozens of things in every box in every draw. wow! yes, yes. there are a0 million fossils stored here at the smithsonian museum and a team is carrying out the mammoth task of digitally recording every single one. we have drawers here in the collection that haven't been opened in decades. the data held within museum drawers is trapped, and we are bringing that trapped data out into the light. we are mobilising it for research. photographing and logging the details of each specimen in this collection alone will take an estimated 50 years. but it's part of an effort by institutions around the world to create a global digital museum where every piece of the fossil record can be studied online.
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the devastating fire at brazil's national museum this year destroyed knowledge that was amassed over two centuries and was a stark reminder of the need to protect and log such scientifically valuable collections. this goes way beyond insuring this huge collection. it means that this triceratops skull for example could be in dozens of places at once, anywhere in the world for any scientist to study. and with a very detailed digital scan and a 3d printer, researchers here at bristol university have been able to bring these dinosaurs into their lab. this model is great because it allows us to look in detail at the anatomy and pick it up and hold it and turn it around. amazing. now we can actually test ideas about how these animals actually functioned. the digital skulls can be given virtual stress tests to work out what the animals ate, how they moved and so what their environment was like 150 million years ago. museums have gathered vast amounts of evidence of hundreds of millions of years of evolution.
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now the challenge is to make sure it's shared and studied, not hidden away in the dark. victoria gill, bbc news in washington, dc. now it's time for a look at the weather with susan powell hello. sunday did bring a few sharp showers, but did also bring a lot of sunshine. and hopefully you got out and were able to enjoy a little bit of that, great afternoon at hayling island in hampshire, because sunshine will become perhaps increasingly in short supply as we move further into our week ahead. on a positive note, the winds will be lighter for the first couple of days, it'll be a largely dry picture too. from midweek onwards, however, there is a lot of uncertainty in our forecast and i will explain a little bit more about that in just a moment. right here, right now, it is a fairly quiet story to take us through the rest of today and on into monday.


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