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kimjong—un, near the end of february. it is expected to focus on the denuclearisation of the korean peninsula. the white house said the location would be announced later. vietnam has been mentioned as a possibility. the white house has called allegations that president trump ordered his former lawyer michael cohen to lie to congress about his business links with russia before he took office categorically false. leading democrats said the allegations were the most serious against the president to date. police in the sudanese capital, khartoum, have opened fire at mourners attending the funeral of a man killed during anti—government clashes with the security forces. countrywide demonstrations calling for president omar al—bashir to step daft enough to swim with a great white shark, but a group of divers in hawaii had a close encounter with one of the huge predators and lived to tell the tale. a diver swam alongside one
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of the largest sharks ever recorded, and this is only the third ever sighting of her. our reporter suzanne lowry has more. a very close encounter with what is believed to be the biggest great white shark on record. photographer kimberlyjeffries decided to take part in an extremely after she spotted it off the coast of hawaii. to this big carcass. and we looked back, and my friend said to me, he's like, "kim, that's a great white shark", ssf serieus 52:55:53; but $5332???
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that it was really kind of a — a really different and very unique experience. it was only later that kimberly and another diver realised that the 2.5—ton shark, known as deep blue, was actually the largest ever documented. it had last been seen in mexico six years ago. at this point, we don't realise that it's deep blue that we're swimming with. we just — we saw that it was, like, this massive great white shark. it was incredibly humbling, you know? as a photographer, you always dream of a moment like this to sort of come across your lap, and after so many days of looking, i'd kind of already given up hope. the sighting has given the world a remarkably rare opportunity to see sharks in their natural environment. their habits are so different from ours, you know? like, they make these really deep dives during the day, and them come up to the surface briefly, so it's no wonder we don't see them. during filming, kimberly‘s team also
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found three pregnant sharks, and she believes this discovery will provide data that will deepen the world's knowledge of these often misunderstood creatures. suzanne lowry, bbc news. that is not for me. now on bbc news: a special edition of talking movies marking two decades reporting on film from new york, with tom brook. hello and welcome to this special 20th anniversary edition of talking movies. i am tom brook. 20th anniversary edition of talking movies. iam tom brook. yes, talking movies. iam tom brook. yes, talking movies has been on the year foot —— airfor20 years, movies has been on the year foot —— airfor 20 years, busily air for 20 years, busily covering the film world. u-boat, baby, we are going there. i never miss a minute. i love talking to you, i do. i am not saying this, i told you that before. he's everywhere. he is
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a lwa ys before. he's everywhere. he is always on the most interesting places and has greatjackets. always on the most interesting places and has great jackets. thank you very much. he does, he has good macs. he is always standing on the street in new york at night time, in the lights, and that is dramatic, and it looks like in the world of the movies. all that and - # and it looks like in the world of the mov the all that and - # 20th effort "",.,.;3. a"; 7 ., 7 7 ,. ygicv' eg $514: , z movies beenzifééirzrrr , , ~ 7 movies been on , , ~ 7 movies been on , air. , ~ 7 talking movies has been on the air. let's start by looking at the stature of the oscars, hollywood's biggest night of the year. stature of the oscars, hollywood's biggest night of the yearli stature of the oscars, hollywood's biggest night of the year. i will put you on the spot here, tom, which one did you prefer? well, in many ways i liked the social network, i thought it was a very, very good film. i have reported from the 0scars red carpet for much of the time talking movies has been in existence. 0ne time talking movies has been in existence. one year before talking movies took to the airwaves,
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titanic, a hugely popular movie, won the best picture prize an impressive 55 million people in the us and tuned in to watch the oscars telecast. last year, the oscars only managed to deliver an audience of 26 million. the academy awards are diminished cultural phenomenon compared to what they were 20 years ago. for a few reasons, first of all they don't tend to give 0scars to they don't tend to give 0scars to the kind of movies people are seeing very much. you know, you don't see the big superhero the very much. you know, you don't see the big superhero - the big the his sues—lemmawée—thflrbfr let if black panther beg-"326: be big that's so rarely £1 e's. j:;1e:>;u2: lima-2 12x l;l:l’§ .. .: .:. . even £1 eh. j££1e£££u££ le£l£ ex l;l:l’§ 1. 1: 1:1 . even so, £1 eie. j££1e£££ee£ le£le ex l;l:l’§ 1. 1: 1:1 . even so, black and there is happens. even so, black and there is a long shot to win. and understandably, people don't want to watch an 0scars ceremony in which they haven't seen most or all of the movie that are nominated. that is not appealing to people. people want to see 0scars with movies that they like, but they have seen. what did you make of the oscars ceremony tonight? it was ok, yes. it was long, very long. a bit old—fashioned, really. long, very long. a bit
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old-fashioned, really. but could the 0scars old-fashioned, really. but could the 0sca i’s ceremony old-fashioned, really. but could the 0scars ceremony be re—engineered to bring in eager audience? the oscars have tried to figure out ways to remedy how to make ceremony shorter, more interesting, more appealing to young people, for as long as i remember watching them. but i'm not sure what changes would need to happen to kind of bring back a large audience that has already kind of departed. the host, right, is an eternal problem, and i think one that seems like it's never solvable, because you are trying to please all sorts of people. instrument is, in, with seven nominations including best picture. i'm elated by that, truly, genuinely thrilled. but the academy awards, despite all the challenges, still has a tremendous impact. getting a trophy is a real seal of approval that is highly valued. the publicist wage elaborate campaign to win 0scars on behalf of the stars they represent. those campaigns, they are very important, because with the amount of content thatis because with the amount of content that is out there, anything that
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will really designate a point of difference is very important and valuable. financially as well as from an audience standpoint. the academy has been scrambling to remedy its problems. last year it announced a new category for achievement in popular film, announced a new category for achievement in popularfilm, with an the ratings. in the of a of but, in the wake of a chorus of “mt?“t‘ a charge that complaints includingj1d3argejhat it was they also securing a host for difficulties in securing a host for this year's difficulties in securing a host for this yea r‘s clearly difficulties in securing a host for this year's clearly the this year's telecast. clearly the academy faces a lot of challenges. tom always asks the most uncomfortable questions. as you get older, do you feel that you are improving as an actress and as a human being? i love that question. i would not... i can't answer that the magician. that's an amazing question. i'm going to have it engraved and put on my fridge. —— that question. over the years, talking movies has reported from
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around the world, and during that time the international market for hollywood films has grown dramatically. in 1999, the of that thew” states. that st; to i. eezte% looks at the iie’saiteetififi of'” ” increasing globalisation of hollywood. 0nce, only tom cruise could bring - to definitely, you know, the japanese the asian cultures are in the asian cultures are something that i've always wanted to know more about. there's great philosophies have come from that. is 2003 film the last samurai was partly made in japan, but with a western palm print flapped all over it, alongside a western cast. many of our customers seem strange to you. —— customs. western cast. many of our customers seem strange to you. -- customs. in 2018, though, hollywood goes to asia. nicolas cage was handed the international film festival in macau in december, alongside stars from hong kong and china, in order to
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show his film. china, and filmmaking in china, and really allover, is the new way. in 2016, mainland china relaxed its own rules on how many north american movies could be seen in its cinemas. its vast audiences helped the worldwide rocks offers of ee‘eeeue ts'éfiilifiég’éxfii; {ie into a to 1 , 1$ gen; man, 1 , 1$ gen man. each blockbuster van, be aan man. each! blockbuster van, ta aqba man. each! chinese blockbuster van, to aqba roan. each! chinese release added profits film's chinese release added profits to american studios. in a sign of the new global order, aquaman was released in china before the us. you can see why hollywood is salivating at the thought of the chinese market. everything about china is vast, including its potential audience of 1.3 billion people. yet nothing should be taken completely for granted. it has taken hollywood
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for granted. it haste ken’hottywood 2018 to . its for granted. it haste ken’hottywood 2018 to - its backing unti1120118 to out its backing behinet like be led an in contemporary times to be led an asian in in contemporary times to be led an asian - in five in contemporary times to be led an asian in five john in contemporary times to be led an asian infive john g's asian cast in five years. john g's feelgood escapist rom com bombed in china, with just $1 feelgood escapist rom com bombed in china, withjust $1 million in takings. it has an team released in india at all. perhaps talk of a worldwide film village is still premature. that kind of romantic comedy format is very frequent, is very common around asia. so i'm not sure it is ever going to work so well in the east. i think you have to be careful about the hybrid that tries to please everybody, you know, the great wall was a universal picture starring matt damon, directed by one of the great chinese filmmakers, it didn't really perform terribly well in either china or the us. so chinese audiences are very suspicious of films that are trying to manipulate them in a certain way.
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g“; 59-3535 “egg-35s eel 'e e‘ee eeeeese eieeeeeee e'st ie e111 until e‘ee eeeeese eieeeeeee e'st ie g until 2016! e‘ee eeeeese eieeeeeee e'st ie g until 2016 for a genuine e‘ee eeeeese eieeeeeee e'st ie g unti in)16 for a genuine worldwide hit in hindi, dangal, starring amir khan, to appear. the g other cultures being danger of other cultures being hollywood influenced just isn't padmadzxat. a lasish stow;r there. padmadvat, a lavish story from india which talking movies reported on in 2017, made an impressive $40 million worldwide in one week —— padmaavat. india and china recently signed a treaty to increase the possibility of more film coproductions between them, and the danger might be more to hollywood, especially that studios persist in thinking that china's only demand is for formulaic action. iam from only demand is for formulaic action.
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i am from the bbc, can i ask a couple of questions? sure. icu in the mornings. ok, i hope it is not disturbing. in the early days of talking movies, 20 years ago, the film industry was basically ruled by white males, and on screen, white faces prevailed. over the years, especially recently, that has begun to change. there's my diversity, inclusivity and equality. to change. there's my diversity, inclusivity and equality]! to change. there's my diversity, inclusivity and equality. i was wondering if you had any entertainment. one of the first films that talking movies covered was the romantic comedy forces of nature, starring sandra bullock and ben affleck. in an interview with sandra bullock, the issue of gender parity came up. should actresses get the same pay as actors? why shouldn't women get paid? we are not m, shouldn't women get paid? we are not in, you know, the stone age any more. we have burned all the bras, we have gone through that, it is equality and the person doesn't equality and the person doesn't equal amounts of work and does just as well, then absolutely. you can break our hearts, but you cannot
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break our hearts, but you cannot break our hearts, but you cannot break our spirits. is it time that people of colour recognise how much power we have amassed? gender disparity and lack of diversity have often been covered in the show. with the rise of the oscars so white and me to campaigns, these issues have gained more profile recently. me to campaigns, these issues have gained more profile recently]! gained more profile recently.” think there are baby steps towards greater diversity, but i think the conversation is happening, and is manifesting on the screen, slowly but surely. it's being vocalise much more, andl but surely. it's being vocalise much more, and i truly hope that it is moving more and more in that direction, that were seeing people who should be playing these parts on screen, stories that should be told on screen. screen, stories that should be told on screen. i'm very passionate about that. —— #metoo. on screen. i'm very passionate about that. -- #metoo. the lgbt community also faces struggles, although there has been greater inclusivity over the last 20 years, a survey by one agency found that lgbt representation in films in the major
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studios in 2017 was the worst in six yea rs. studios in 2017 was the worst in six years. a giant leap forward in diversity came with the release last year of black panther, the mega hit black superhero movie which put a cast of largely black actors in the high—profile roles. cast of largely black actors in the high-profile roles. it'sjust a beautiful thing to see representation. i think that that's the most important thing, representation of all the different facets. the fact that i can look up and see myself as a superhero, or somebody who looks like me as a superhero, i think it does a remarkable thing for society as a whole. better representation is coming about partly because there is pressure to change, and because there is greater commitment at some studios towards embracing diversity. black panther was made by marvel studios. we are painfully aware of what we have not yet represented. i think we haven't represented the latin community, in general. i think that's something that we have to do better. i am that's something that we have to do better. iam latin, i can
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that's something that we have to do better. i am latin, i can tell you that i'm longing for that. the gay community has not been represented whatsoever. i'm gay, so i can tell you that i long for that. i think we haven't rippers entered the asian community well. i think we've had some representation, but it is minimal, and we would like to represent that in a big way. she just thinks you are some unrefined banana. yellow on the outside and white on the inside. but the road to greater diverse it is not once moved trajectory. crazy rich asians because you do films that in the present day to be led by an all asian cast in 25 years was lauded for bringing the story of chinese and chinese american people to the screen. but some critics argue that crazy rich asians, in fa ct, argue that crazy rich asians, in fact, perpetuated a stereotype. this isa fact, perpetuated a stereotype. this is a film that doesn't represent the sort of myriad of experiences that asians have. if you look at the film, the film still looks at dark
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skinned agent —— asians as servants, the ones that are displayed prominently upfront were white skinned east asians. these people aren'tjust rich, skinned east asians. these people aren't just rich, 0k, skinned east asians. these people aren'tjust rich, 0k, they're crazy reached. the borders of diversity note it is not as pressure to do the right thing that is fuelling the drive greater inclusivity. better representation on screen phil scott is, it sells at the box office. -- fil scoffers. if this is generating bottle —— bottom—line profits, it is one undiscovered ave that the film industry is able to tap into. it is making money. there is no doubt about that. it doesn't mean it is a critical engagement in diversity. but a respected figures in film don't believe that greater diversity in big hollywood films like black panther has only come about through a desire to make money.” panther has only come about through a desire to make money. i think the tools to make films, the tools to create cinema have finally, after 80-90 create cinema have finally, after 80—90 years, reached the people who
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didn't grow up in the suburbs are who didn't grow up with a silver spoon. now those people had been empowered to tell their stories will. avenue is an extreme example. i think something like moonlight or even something like blachklansman or get out, now there is only people who look like me who have these tools to tell the stories they want. that is how diversity in its many forms is likely to gain a rule foothold in the industry. not as something imposed on the top but from a new, different group of filmmakers rising up with the skills and the ability to tell a wide range of stories and get their narratives out to an audience. that was make a real change from how it was in the film industry 20 years ago. you make me laugh. laughter. we are talking movies! that's good. this is brilliant. are you sure that was smiley enough? we've always come — — cove rs was smiley enough? we've always come —— covers doesn't talking movies, but over the years we have been on
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the air the nature stars have changed. there used to be eight potent component in the showbiz galaxy. now there less so. they're not, the studios are still one stars in theirfilms. not, the studios are still one stars in their films. definitely for the big studios, they still want names, they still want well—known people to be in them, even if they are not believed in the film. but it is a fa ct believed in the film. but it is a fact that the power of stars is dwindling. when talking movies first went on the air, a listed like tom cruise and julia roberts enormous clout. they could guarantee a successful opening weekend box office for a film —based ardennes, however bad it might have been. at that has all changed. the movie stars because power has been supplanted by the franchise's power. there used to be you went to see a film because it was a julia roberts bill murray tom cruise them, now you go because it is a marvel billam or rate jurassic world film. that go because it is a marvel billam or ratejurassic world film. that is how movies are brega today. that is
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what appeals to consumers. they consider themselves loyal to a franchise or a brand, rather than a movie star. it's not his condition franchises ii:% 1: a nd i555 have and i555 have e and lives i to have e and lives i to all, e and lives 2 during e and‘ lives 2 during the e and‘ lives 2 during the golden :i‘ lives 2 during the golden -- ves 1; during the golden —— golden stardom. during the golden -- golden of film, it was a much more age of film, it was a much more controlled so as the and that out was orchestrated. and it was there was orchestrated. and it was really orchestrated. now you can only orchestrated to a point. indeed, it is different from the days when hollywood was carefully controlling the creation of larger than life movie stars. that was in the beginning, the infancy of media. it was just knew. elvis, the beginning, the infancy of media. it wasjust knew. elvis, marilyn monroe, jack kennedy, you know, television was new, c had
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individuals being elevator. now lots of people are being elevated. ——so you had individuals being elevated. you have to brave new worlds of youtube stardom and which stardom and all these new places that people can come from and have enormous online followings but also have other people with no idea who they are. ithink other people with no idea who they are. i think that we are seeing celebrity sort of morphine in ways that speak to the idea of internet stardom as this new thing —— morph. i think there is a lot of value to a movie star. there is something to being as largerthan movie star. there is something to being as larger than life figure on screen. being as larger than life figure on screen. i think it still carries a huge weight for people. stars may have been brought down to size by changes in the last 20 years, but by no means have they been totally supplanted by franchise sidia rose. take, free travel, the old—fashioned stardom of lady gaga and bradley cooper in a star is born —— for a
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couple. they provide proof that stars are still able to reach audiences through their performances in ways that can i potent and in ways that can be potent and profound. what do you think really made you feel that you got it right, was at the way she talks, the week, when did you realise i'm on track now? wendy called his started obeying me. —— wendy corgis. you're kidding. wendy called his started obeying me. -- wendy corgis. you're kidding. i'm not kidding. a small little-known american company called netflix began to operate a rental service, where, for a fee, they would ship fa ns fans dvds offi fans dvds mg movies in film fans dvds of new movies in bright red envelopes. well, netflix has now grown into a humongous streaming giants, upending the film business. now let's move on to the digital revolution and the impact
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it's having on the film industry. in 1999, talking movies feature this report on a pioneering experiment that enables computer users and a cinema audience to access a movie online. it was limited in scope. cinema audience to access a movie online. it was limited in scopem is not where it will be five years from now. it is not to the quality of 35 millimetre right now. again, we arejust of 35 millimetre right now. again, we are just starting, this is sort of the beginning of television when it was, this whole electronic cinema movie. netflix has expanded on that concept dramatically. there are now 130 million netflix subscribers and one in three internet users around the world make use of it. while talking movies has been reporting on the film industry, netflix and its streaming competitors have fomented a mini revolution. there is no question that netflix has been the most disruptive law —— force in
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hollywood of the last five years, simply because though it has been around longer than that, by developing all this original programming ata developing all this original programming at a very fast rate, developing so many different deals with high—profile talent, with competitive contracts, they have outpaced the studios in terms of the kind of volume that they can put out king! of volumethatthe¥ £22525; 5 11ng of volumethatthe¥ £22525; t; world and 11111111” 111 111 111 11ng of volumethatthe¥ £22525; t; world and that 1111 111 111 111 11ng of volumethatthe¥ £22525; essie doing that 1111 knf ”151'1' " 1 films like roma, original content, films likejlomaa offering up a loss of is offering a p a loss ofhp portbhity- forfilmmakers for is offering a p a loss ofhp portbhity- for filmmakers - for backing eee eiieeeeeee ieeeee eee eeeeee their pictures. eee eiieeeeeee ieeeee eee eeeeee ‘their pictures. i think this is fsar thfeir'piitor—re? reticence for filmmakers and, a reticence for filmmakers and, whether you are a writer, a film maker, a director, an actor, this is just there is so much demand for more and more content —— renaissance. this is a wonderful time to be in the content game. while netflix may be optimistic in relation to the future, this is not the case that the big studios, where
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the case that the big studios, where the ascendancy of the streaming services has been cause for anxiety. i have been covering hollywood for almost 15 years, i have never seen the top executives so uncertain, so anxious about the future. you know, we've really upended the way that people consume entertainment and, therefore, the way that a loss of artists create entertainment. vaping the traditional studios, which are used to being on top, billy is a defining how tv and movies get made, now they don't have the power any more they are very scared. they know that if you do, at minimum, will be very different from the past hundred yea rs very different from the past hundred years in hollywood. in the worst—case scenario, the studios, as we know may evaporate. well, that's all from our special 20th anniversary edition of talking movies. we hope you have enjoyed the show and enjoy the last 20 years of talking movies. it's certainly been a privilege for me to be here for the past two dec is to present the
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show. esme? talk —— tom brook, and show. bromey, talk —— tom brook, and the rest of saoirse ronan, it is goodbye as we leave you with more from the talking - bulk hi there. friday was a bit of a disappointing day, particularly through the afternoon where we saw outbreaks of rain, sleep and snow push in from the west — all courtesy of this area of low pressure which has ground to a halt now over the uk and it means for the weekend, it will bring us a lot of cloud and outbreaks of rain, maybe some hill sleet and snow for a while but it is a dying feature. so for the early part of saturday, it looks fairly wet across parts of england and wales with some sleet and snow particularly over the higher ground of the east and north—east of england. further north, though, across scotland, the far north of england where we have the best of any clear skies, in here it will be the coldest start to the day but at least you will have the sunshine to compensate. so much of the northern half of scotland bright, cold and crisp through this morning.
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further south into england and wales and for parts of northern ireland, but as we head through the course of today, that weather front will continue to weaken. many places will turn dry but hold on to a legacy of cloud but we should start to see some heavy showers developing across south wales in towards south—west england with a few sunny spells — that could push temperatures up to 10 degrees here but elsewhere, it will be chilly, despite the sunshine across the far north of scotland. then through saturday night, it turns drier for most but again, we continue to see quite a bit of cloud around, a little bit of fog and even some freezing fog across northern parts of the country. and once again, it will be quite chilly under clear skies with some frost, maybe even a risk of ice. heading into sunday, we are in between weather systems. pressure will build across much of the country but this weak weather front will bring further cloud, outbreaks of rain to the north—west corner of the country. so for scotland, northern ireland, a band of rain spreads southwards and begins to fizzles out. there could be some hill snow for a while. but behind it, the skies brighten up nicely with some sunshine here. but i think for england and wales,
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they will hold on to quite a lot of cloud, with the best of any brightness across the far east of england. once again, it will be chilly — temperatures of 5—7 degrees. heading into next week early part, a weather front sweeps southwards, bringing outbreaks of rain and some snow followed by blustery, wintry showers and some sunny spells. but as we head deeper into next week, we start to lose the cold, northerly winds, and pick up something from the north—east. it looks like this could be even colder and it could also drive some snow showers across the north sea into our shore. so next week is staying cold with some sleet and snow for some of us. welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to viewers in north america and around the globe. our top stories: president trump and north korea's leader kim jong—un are to meet for a second summit. the white house is hoping to make progress on denuclearisation. meanwhile, the president is fighting new claims about russia, rejecting reports he ordered his former lawyer to lie to congress about a business deal in moscow.
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the white house has announced a second summit between president trump and the north korean leader kim jong—un will take place at the end of february.
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