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even steph, who doesn't cry over anything, on breakfast, she cried. well done, tony. well done indeed. and we should say hello to tonight's guest. this is bbc news. the headlines at 7... after a judge lifts a reporting ban, the identity of the teenage boy who abducted, raped and murdered six—year—old alesha macphail is revealed. he's16—year—old aaron campbell. the judge said the crimes against alesha caused revulsion unmatched by any case in recent times. a former labour minister — ian austin — becomes the ninth mp to resign from the party this week — he says he's ashamed of its failure to tackle anti—semitism. at least two people have died and 15 others have been injured in clashes at venezuela's border with brazil. the un warns the world's food system is under threat — from a lack of biodiversity. remembering the ten... huge crowds turn out in sheffield
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for a flypast in honour of the american airmen whose plane crashed there during the second world war. watching it — the man who'd campaigned for the tribute. that was worth waiting 66 years for. good evening. the teenager who raped and murdered six—year—old alesha macphail on the isle of bute has been identified as aaron campbell
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after the judge who presided over his trial lifted the ban on him being named today. until now campbell was given anonymity in all reporting because he was under 18. but media outlets, including the bbc, made a case for reversing the court order which protects his identity. lorna gordon reports from glasgow. the first images of a teenage killer. fresh faced any videos he posted on social media, they give little clue of the cold, cunning murderer he was. cctv from a aaron campbell was my own home showed him acting strangely on unite he killed ales ha acting strangely on unite he killed alesha macphail. after checking the footage, his own mother has contacted police suggesting he might have information about the case. ales ha have information about the case. alesha was described as a sweet, innocent little girl. she had been visiting her father and grandparents who lived on the island when campbell took her from her
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who lived on the island when campbell took herfrom her home, brutalised and killed her. because of his age, her murderer had been automatically granted anonymity but following pressure from media organisations to name him, that all changed. judge matthews said, i cannot think of a case in recent times that has attracted such revulsion. i intend to grant the application and there can be images published of him. it has had public interest. what appeared to be the main factors were the heinous nature of the crime. this is believed to be the first time a murderer under 18 has had his anonymity lifted in scotland, though it has happened elsewhere. there are concerns from some that revealing his identity may prove counter—productive. some that revealing his identity may prove counter-productive. what i would say is this is the most terrible crime and i hope we never see it again but what we need is to rehabilitate this boy and, in order
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to do that, we should not have named him. aaron campbell's acts were described as the wickedest, most evil crimes the court had ever learned. you will be sentenced next month but has been warned his release may never come. “— month but has been warned his release may never come. —— we will be sentenced. —— he will be sentenced. that was our scotland correspondent lorna gordon — earlier she sent this update from the high court in glasgow. there could be many people in the court of public opinion who think this is the right decision. aaron campbell, remember, stalk alesha macphail away from her bed in her family home while four adults were sleeping in the house at the time. he brutalised the little girl, she suffered 117 injuries in total and, throughout the trial, here at the high court, he showed no remorse. in a court of law, the arguments are quite complex. you look at his age,
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his vulnerability, his rights, and that has to be weighed up against any damage the public interest, and the nature of his defence where he blamed a 19—year—old for his crimes. thejudge blamed a 19—year—old for his crimes. the judge ultimately came down in favour of naming campbell, a boy who carried out truly depraved acts. will it set a precedent? i think thatis will it set a precedent? i think that is unlikely, lawyers we have spoken to have said it is unlikely to open the floodgates. this has to be looked at as exceptional, rare and appalling crimes. some breaking news. agencies are reporting that the singer r kelly has been criminally charged with multiple cou nts criminally charged with multiple counts of sexual abuse. the singer best known for i believe i can fly was charged in cook county with ten cou nts was charged in cook county with ten counts of aggravated sexual abuse.
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that is according to agencies and local media. the singer r kelly charged with multiple counts of sexual abuse as we will bring you more on that story when we get it. ian austin has become the ninth mp to resign from the labour party this week. mr austin, who represents dudley north, launched a blistering attack onjeremy corbyn as he did so, saying he was ashamed of the party because of the leadership's failure to tackle "extremism, anti—semitism and intolerance. " meanwhile theresa may has been warned she could face a mass revolt of normally loyal conservative mps if it looks like the country is heading for a no—deal brexit. this report from our chief political correspondent vicki young contains flashing images. he is accused of allowing a culture of bullying and intimidation to take hold in the labour party. nine of jeremy corbyn's mps have walked out this week and he is under pressure to do more to stop others heading for the
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exit. ian orson is leaving after more than 35 years in the party, he has been one ofjeremy corbyn's fiercest critics saying it is not fit to be prime minister. —— ian austin has been. intolerance has been allowed to develop and anti—semitism has flourished. i thinkjeremy corbyn is not taking it nearly seriously enough. he is incapable of dealing with a properly and he has refused to get to grips with this. mr austin said he is not joining the new independent group set up by other disgruntled colleagues. he does not agree with them about the need for another brexit referendum. he is holding meetings about brexit and this was his response to the latest affection. i'm sorry he decided to make that course of action. he was elected alongside me on a manifesto that pledged to deal with poverty, injustice and equality, that is how he was elected and how i was
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elected. when other mps resigned, they particularly blamed jeremy corbyn's reluctance to deal with anti—semitism. today they showed their solidarity for their former colleague, saying mr austin stayed true to his values, recognising it had been a painful decision. how are you? you must have had a bit of a morning. this morning iain austin shared his despair at the state of labour with his former colleague, jess phillips. i've been thinking that i should have been doing this for months for a long time, but i watched luciana on monday and i thought, in the end, you've got to stand with her. do you think more will go now as well? i don't know. i haven't talked to other people about this. mps have deserted them for different reasons. brexit is the issue threatening to tear them apart. the prime minister has another growing rebellion to deal with ahead of crucial votes here next week. dozens
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of normally loyal mps said they will not stand by and allow the eu to leave without a deal, threatening to joina leave without a deal, threatening to join a cross—party attempt on wednesday to take control of the brexit process. is a perfect storm emerging here between people who wa nt to emerging here between people who want to overturn the result, which i think is outrageous, and people who wa nt to think is outrageous, and people who want to deliver brexit but not a no deal. they have been forced together by the intransigence of, i think it is very dangerous for those of us, who do believe in brexit and want to deliver it on time. eurosceptics deny they are jeopardising brexit by backing a deal. —— refusing to back a deal. it does not deliver on the will of the public people so it is not intransigence. parliament is preparing to have its say on brexit. our political correspondent,
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nick eardley is at westminster this evening. turbulent times. labour, first of all, ian orson has left the party but he is notjoining these new independent grouping. he is quite different from the other eight to quit earlier this week. the big difference is brexit, basically ian austin is from a part of the country that voted for brexit, largely he has been on board with plans to deliver brexit, he has been amenable to the public‘s plan so far whereas the others are all completely against brexit and the one thing holding that independent group together, that includes the three conservatives, is opposition to brexit and they believe there should be another referendum so, yes, it is another sign of how brexit is redefining, in some ways, political
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allegiances in this country but for ian orson, it is not a case of leaving the labour party to join in this new group for now anyway. on theissue this new group for now anyway. on the issue of brexit, the prime minister coming back to the commons next week, new sign she could face yet another defeat and perhaps resignations from her government. there are a number of signs that next week is going to be another big, crunch week in the brexit process. those votes on wednesday it could be one of the moments that one of the conservatives might feel it is their time to act on. there are still some hope that there will be a new deal to vote on, a tweaked version of what the prime minister has already seen to be overwhelmingly rejected in parliament. there are hopes that you come back next week. if it does and it is defeated, there are a group of normally loyal conservatives now saying, at that point, we would feel the need to fall back to another
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position and break ranks with the government, doing something else. we have had a warning today from some of them that up to 30, a0 have had a warning today from some of them that up to 30,110 due have had a warning today from some of them that up to 30, a0 due to end up of them that up to 30, a0 due to end up backing extending the brexit process , up backing extending the brexit process, kicking brexit day back to avoid a no deal scenario. also warnings some might end up opting for options that include a softer brexit, perhaps closer to labour's policy of a customs union. do you know what? there are a lot of suggestions flying about at the moment, a lot of potential stumbling block for the prime minister. you will not know exactly how this will play out until early next week but there are real signs that the fragile truce in the conservative party could be shattered at some point next week. many thanks for the latest from westminster. meanwhile the irish government has published draft legislation intended to prepare
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the country for a no deal brexit. foreign minister, simon coveney, said such a scenario would cause widespread damage to both the uk and the republic of ireland. our ireland correspondent chris page sent us this update from dublin ireland has been at the centre of so much in the brexit process, and more than any other country, it would be at the sharp end of a no—deal brexit. so, the irish government has today published emergency legislation enacting its plans for what would happen if the uk and the eu failed to reach a deal. it covers a huge range of topics, everything from energy to extraditions, pensions to transport, and it deals with some really practical everyday issues which will affect people's lives, for example, it aims to ensure that citizens of the uk and ireland would continue to be able to study at universities, get health care, and receive welfare payments in both countries. it is one of the most elaborate pieces of legislation ever drawn up by an irish government, but the irish foreign minister simon coveney keen to stress that in effect, he hoped that all the hard work would go to waste, he said he still believed there would be a deal between the uk and the eu,
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and he certainly was very much turn out to be the case. one issue, conspicuous by its absence in the legislation, and that is perhaps the trickiest issue of all, the future of the land border between the irish republic and northern ireland. the irish government says it's still not contemplating putting in new checkpoints on that frontier, and the government saying that even if there is a no—deal brexit, the uk and the eu are still going to have to find some way of ensuring that checks on that border don't return. exactly how that would happen, though, is still a very big question. and we'll find out how this story — and many others — are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10:a0 and 11:30 this evening in the papers. our guests joining me tonight are home affairs editor at the evening standard, martin bentham and economist
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& author of the great economists, linda yeuh. thousands of people gathered this morning in sheffield to watch a special flypast marking the 75th anniversary of a crash which claimed the lives of ten american airmen. the flypast came about after a chance meeting between pensioner. tony foulds, who witnessed the crash as a young boy and has spent decades tending a memorial park to the airmen, and bbc breakfast‘s dan walker. david sillito has the story. normally, tony foulds' daily visit to the war memorial in sheffield's endcliffe park is a moment of quiet, solitary reflection. today it wasn't that moment. from first light, thousands have begun to arrive. as an eight—year—old, tony had watched as the plane crashed to avoid hitting people in the park. today on the 75th anniversary, that terrible day would be marked. perhaps with a fly past. his dream had come true. unbelievable, unbelievable.
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they will be loving this. oh, dear... breathtaking, this. and then, in an almost cloudless sky, the first glimpse of an aircraft. his dream had come true. they commemoration that pick on with a chance encounter with bbc was my own dan walker. tony spoke about how he thought the crew might have survived if he had not been anyway. there we re if he had not been anyway. there were some complex emotions as he once again waved at the plane just as he had done as a child in 19aa. exactly 75 years on from that terrible day, here's tony and the exact same place and who could have imagined what he was seeing today? does this help things for you? no, it never will. what surrounding him
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with thousands being touched by his story, including a relative. to know that today everyone is remembering him and the other nine as well and the service they gave, it means more than words could ever convey. what a day for tony. had started off as seeing how many people have actually took note, it is for these lads. they are family. they are family to me. the headlines on bbc news... ajudge rules the identity of the teenage boy who raped and murdered six—year—old alesha macphail to be revealed — he's16—year—old aaron campbell. ian austin has become the ninth mp to quit labour this week, blaming leaderjeremy corbyn for "creating a culture of extremism and intolerance". according to us media reports —
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the singer r kelly has been charged with multiple counts of sexual abuse. at least one person has died and several others have been injured in clashes at venezuela's border with brazil. local media report that security forces fired on a group of people to stop them from crossing the border. the president, nicolas maduro, has closed that border in a row over humanitarian aid being delivered. it comes as two concerts in support of venezuela's people get under way on either side of a bridge linking venezuela and colombia. our international correspondent, orla guerin is there. as you can probably hear, the concert is in full swing at the location here is highly significant wear just location here is highly significant wearjust a short distance away from a bridge into venezuela, one that has been blocked by the troops of
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nicholas maduro. this concert was organised by the british billionaire richard branson. we spoke with him earlier this morning and he said, of all the events he has run in his life, this was the most important he had ever organised, saying they came together in three weeks following a phone call between himself and the leader of venezuelan applause opposition. he was told there was an urgent need for medical supplies, food aid and things could not wait any longer.m was a discussion on the phone, he felt strongly that we needed something like this and we are very much running this concert based on pure humanitarian reasons. we do not wa nt to pure humanitarian reasons. we do not want to get involved in the complicated politics but it looks like it is going to be wonderful. there is hundreds of thousands of people pouring in and i hope it will
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start to change in venezuela. all of the artists here are giving their services free of charge and there are some major south american stars. first, nicholas maduro was also hoping to stage a concert but there isa hoping to stage a concert but there is a great concern over whether they will be able to bring aid across the border. nicholas maduro said his troops will prevent that aid coming through. the united states has announced it will leave two hundred soldiers as "peacekeepers" in syria after the rest of its troops leave the country. it comes as the final push is underway to clear islamic state fighters from the last enclave of baghuz, a village in eastern syria on the iraqi border. syrian democratic forces are also trying to evacuate civilians from the area. our correspondent, mark lowen, sent us this update from erbil in northern iraq.
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30 truckloads of civilians today. many being used as human shields. there are still some is fighters refusing to leave, die hard ones vowing to fight to the death but when the kurdish led forces on the ground and us air power move into that final pocket, which is imminent, possibly over the next 2a-a8 imminent, possibly over the next 2a—a8 hours, they stand very little chance against them. they are going to camps for displaced people in northern syria, including a camp where shemema begum was held last week. i spoke to a humanitarian officer who said there are no a0,000 people in that camp and that supplies are very limited. fighters are trying to stop civilians from fleeing. the syrian observatory for human rights, a monitoring group, said there was one is officer who was executed for encouraging civilians to leave the pocket, so
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they are trying to keep them there to try and force that final —— stall that final assault but it is a matter of hours. just a reminder of the breaking news coming to us from the united states this hour, the singer r kelly has been charged with ten counts of aggravated sexual abuse, at least some involving minors. that is according to a court official in cook county. the singer, who is best known for i believe i can fly has been dogged by allegations of sexual abuse for decades and he now has a court date scheduled for march the 8th in chicago where he lives. that is the singer r kelly charged with ten counts of aggravated criminal
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sexual abuse. more on that as we get it. the coroner at the inquest into the death of 13—year—old amber peat, who hanged herself in nottinghamshire in may 2015, said she had not been able to determine' if she had the intention of killing herself. amber was found dead three days after she walked out of her family home, following an argument about chores. the coroner said a number of professionals had missed chances to help amber, and that her parents had ‘very little consideration for her welfare' at times. a man fatally stabbed in front of a group of teenagers at a youth club in south london has been named locally as 23—year—old glendon spence. he died at the scene of the attack in brixton yesterday evening, in what police have described as a "premeditated and ta rgeted" assault. the family of shamima begum — the british teenager who joined the islamic state in syria — have told the home secretary they're going to challenge his decision to revoke her uk citizenship.
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in a letter to sajid javid, the family say they cannot abandon her even though they've been "sickened by the comments she has made" in recent interviews. they also want the government's help in bringing back shamima begum's newborn baby. mrjavid says he hasn't read the letter yet but will be "looking closely at it". he said each case would have to be looked at ‘on a case by case basis'. the mother of a schoolboy who died in the hillsborough tragedy in 1989 has told a jury at preston crown court that the pitch "looked like a battleground" when the fatal crush happened. dolores steele's15—year—old son philip was one of the 96 people who died at the fa cup semi—final. judith moritz was at the court in preston. philip steele is one of the children of hillsborough, just 15 years old when he died at a football match on afamily when he died at a football match on a family day out with his parents
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and little brother. philip's mother dolores has lived without her son for the last 30 years. today, she relived the day the disaster took his life. the steel family you are all at the match, the parents u psta i rs all at the match, the parents upstairs in the seating area, their children standing on the terrace below. dolores remembers that it suddenly looked very crowded down there. she could hear the crowd shouting, open the gates, people are dying. she looked across at the durie and told them she could not see her boys. she saw someone carried onto the grass, a jacket put over the face. she said suddenly the football pitch looked like a battle ground. there were so many people out there lying around. the younger boy survived. the parents went to
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look for philip. they were told to ring a helpline at the mortuary. dolores steele told the jury they try the emergency number over and over, and over again without success. she said, wejust over, and over again without success. she said, we just could over, and over again without success. she said, wejust could not get through, we are at our wits end. the family went around the city to a hospital and a reception centre before ending up back at the ground where they identified the body. the chief superintendent denied his man's water and that of the other fa ns man's water and that of the other fans who were killed. 96 men, women and children died. one in 13 children in the uk will suffer from post traumatic stress disorder before they become adults, according to new research. experts from kings college london say the condition is affecting hundreds of thousands of young people. our health correspondent catherine burns reports.
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flo sharman looks like any healthy 20—year—old. but as a baby, she was seriously ill and needed life—saving surgery and had several traumatic experiences in hospital. when she was eight years old, she had a breakdown. she was not diagnosed with ptsd until she was 16. my behaviour completely changed. i was having irrational thoughts about many things, not wanting to leave the house, i did not leave the house for six months. it took eight years for her to be diagnosed with ptsd, with symptoms including flashbacks, insomnia and feelings of isolation. researchers say ptsd is all too common in young people, they asked a group of 2000 18—year—olds in england and wales about their experiences of trauma, that can be anything involving the threat of death, injury or abuse. they say young people could be more vulnerable to the effects of trauma because they are developing emotionally. ptsd can be linked to soldiers but all often too goes unnoticed and children. they say young people are developing physically and emotionally, and could be more vulnerable to the effects of trauma.
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trauma can be anything from being abused or bullied to accidents and illness, or even something serious happening to a friend or relative. researchers asked about their experiences of it. about one third said they had been exposed to trauma. of that group, 25% went on to develop ptsd. those children were highly likely to have other mental health issues. only a few of the people with ptsd access care. we have to make sure we break down the barriers that prevent people from talking about it. the key is to try and get help as early as possible to stop problems continuing into adult life. it is important to young people do not feel guilty about this, it is normal to feel distressed when you have gone through a dramatic event.
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you have to talk about things, get help, because these things are curable. the government says supporting the mental health of children and young people is a key priority and that it is increasing funding for this work faster than any other area. we can now talk to dr stephanie l, ewisa lead researcher —— we can now talk to dr stephanie lewis, who is a lead researcher from institute of psychiatry, psychology and neuroscience at king's college. many people will be surprised that so many people will be surprised that so many young people have already experienced such trauma that they are suffering from ptsd. you are right. that is mainly because it was originally described in war veterans so, for that reason, it might be typically thought about for adults and soldiers in particular but we know from clinical experience and research that children and young people experience ptsd as well. british young people in the community suffer from it and we
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found that one in three suffer from a trauma and —— one in three suffer from ptsd by the time they are 18. young people with ptsd experience a range of symptoms and these include symptoms of reliving a traumatic event through distressing memories or nightmares, avoiding reminders of the dramatic event like people, places, thoughts or feelings and experiencing feelings of guilt and isolation as well as feeling... experiencing hyper arousal which leads to difficulty concentrating and sleeping. is this being sufficiently recognised ? many and sleeping. is this being sufficiently recognised? many people say they associate it with being in the military. is there a problem here that family, teachers, doctors are not realising what is going on in these young people? our study shows evidence to suggest
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that young people are recognising it. that is because we asked about they had —— whether they had sought mental health individuals that we found that one in three people who experience ptsd had sought help from theirgp and experience ptsd had sought help from their gp and only one in five had seen a their gp and only one in five had seen a mental health research that met professional. that is troubling because we know there are treatments which can be delivered. we know that if young people do not get those treatments, a proportion of them will not recover. what do you want to see now? is it a question of getting a greater awareness of the scale of the problem and making sure people do know what to look out for? i think that is part of what might help. there are a number of reasons that might prevent young people from getting the help they need. it might be that there are factors like not
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recognising and illness. as well as factors like stigma and shame preventing them from seeking help. and also health services that might help them get the right treatment. like services not being available. it is important for us to defer research, identify and address those barriers that help more people get the help we know can be effective for them. thank you. now it's time for a look at the weather. more mist and fog around. you will find that developing overnight tonight. particularly across the midlands, eastern side of england and there will be some low fog and cloud as well. the winds are stronger in scotland and northern ireland, lower temperature in wales and north—west england down to around three celsius. tomorrow, mist and low cloud, patchy fog will lift, burn off and we will see sunshine
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develop in many places. along with a band of cloud and patchy light rain that sticks across northern ireland into scotland, eventually westernmost parts of england and wales. not much on that, sunshine after it, sunny skies ahead of it. that is what we will see 16 celsius. chilly start on sunday morning, touch of frost here and there, mist and low cloud, winds are light, sunshine develops. cloudy for northern ireland and western scotla nd northern ireland and western scotland and those temperatures still above average, 13—15dc. hello this is bbc news. the headlines: ajudge rules the identity of the teenage boy who raped and murdered six—year—old alesha macphail to be revealed. the name and face of 16 —year—old aaron campbell can now be disclosed, after a reporting ban was lifted. according to us media reports — the singer r. kelly has been charged with multiple
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counts of sexual abuse. ian austin has become the ninth mp to quit labour this week, blaming leaderjeremy corbyn for "creating a culture of extremism and intolerance". the un is warning the world's food system is under threat from a lack of biodiversity. let's get more now on the resignation of ian austin from the labour party. the mp for dudley north say he's ashamed of the party and claims it now has a culture of ‘extremism, anti—semitism and intolerance'. he's the the ninth mp this week to leave labour, alongside the eight who resigned to join the new independent group, but mr austin has ruled out joining them ‘for now‘. back in he's been explaining the reasons behind his resignation to our reporter, lindsay doyle. it's the biggest decision i've ever had to make. i'm ashamed of the
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position the labour party has gotten itself into underjeremy corbyn plasma leadership. ijoined this party 35 years ago listening to my dad, a holocaust refugee telling me about... ijoined dad, a holocaust refugee telling me about... i joined labour to dad, a holocaust refugee telling me about... ijoined labour to defy racism. i can't believe i'm having to leave because of racism also. jeremy corbyn prides himself as a peace campaigner. do you think anti—semitism is rife? peace campaigner. do you think anti—semitism is rife ?|j peace campaigner. do you think anti-semitism is rife? i think there's been a culture of extremism that's been allowed to develop. i thinkjeremy corbyn has not taken it seriously enough. i think he's refused to get to grips with this. i was suggesting he might be anti—semitic himself? is not possible for me to look into his heart and see how it truly how he truly thinks? when you've got the
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rabbi the leader of thejewish community saying... i know he said and things which are anti—semitic in east london, talking aboutjewish people not understanding irony, english irony as if they are somehow separate from the rest of us. i think he has said and done things which are completely unacceptable andi which are completely unacceptable and i think he isjust unable to deal with these things. he is allowed a culture of anti—semitism and extremism to develop and flourish and he's not got to grips with it. well, ian austin's resignation comes at the end of a busy week at westminster , in which eight other mps also left the labour party — they now make up the independent group — along with three former conservative mps — who defected from the conservative party on wednesday. here to discuss it all is chief political commentator at the independent, john rentoul and elinor goodman, the former political editor for channel four news — whojoins us from marlborough in wiltshire.
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thank you both very much indeed for joining us. quite a week. ian austin's resignation the latest from the labour party traumas and resignations from the conservative party, further votes coming out next week. how does this turmoil compare with some of the turbulent times that you were reporting on in the past? are we really in an unprecedented period of instability? we are. but, there are some striking parallels with the launch of the sdp at the beginning of the 1980s when i was listening to the press conference of the mps leaving the labour party, so many of the phrases we re labour party, so many of the phrases were the same things like we are the mainstream, the party has left us behind, the way the accused, grassroots of extremism and bullying, all those kinds of things,
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but you've got to add into the equation the poison of anti—semitism and of course the complications caused by brexit. in some ways, you would say the circumstances for the launch of a new party are more auspicious than they were in the early 80s in the sense you've got to really unpopular leaders, both parties are split and arguably, there is less fixed class loyalty than they used to be. but on the other hand, you still have the first past the post voting system and that ultimately is what stopped the sdp overtaking labour and becoming a real force in its own overtaking labour and becoming a realforce in its own right. the fa ct realforce in its own right. the fact that a lot of people can remember that sdp launch thinks people are less euphoric about the launch of the new group, than they we re launch of the new group, than they were at the launch of the sdp when a lot of politicaljournalists went way over the top forecasting they would ever take labour and things like that. now i think there's much
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more cynicism around. and the stb set out to break the mould of british politics, the are the new independent going to do that? as was said, the voting system makes it very difficult for any new parties. 23 of the 28 mps who have defected to the sdp lost their seats at the following general election in 93, and the slots know that. they know that the odds are stacked against them andl that the odds are stacked against them and i can't remember if it was sarah wollaston or anna soubry that said that. but they know the odds are against them and yet that actually makes the emotional power of their defections that much stronger, because you can't accuse these people of being in it for their personal gain. they are probably going to lose their seats asa probably going to lose their seats as a result, but they feel they have to do it and they have to make a stand. that means people sit up and ta ke stand. that means people sit up and take notice. also, brexit is for
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every party and in some ways for this new group. because, if you think of it around 15% of the electorate is firmly for brexit where as they are firmly for staying in and that is why ian austin wouldn'tjoin them. they are not going to get half that 50% you wouldn't expect the first time of asking for the electorate. they would be lucky if they got that high, but if they don't get to something like 30%, they won't get to that tipping point where they start picking up seats. and of course this splintering of both political parties is happening, just as some crucial brexit votes are looming next week. yes, the timing of the conservative defections in particular, because the three of them, one of the reasons were for defecting while they are opposed to leaving the eu without a deal. i don't think that is going to happen.
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i don't think the prime minister intends to do that and the big chance for parliament to stop it is going to be next week when they vote on yvette cooper's plan which is going to come back again on wednesday. very briefly, do you think that current turmoil is at least in part due to the leadership we have seen both from theresa may and frontjeremy corbyn? we have seen both from theresa may and front jeremy corbyn? yes, i think so and i think it is a reflection of the despair and many sections of the electorate that there simply isn't a party that represents their views. the leaders, if you think back to the 80s, you had mrs thatcher who was a strong leader like her or loathe her and you've got to act is amazing to be wea k you've got to act is amazing to be weak and jeremy corbyn who is very far to the left and you've got so many of the labour party in the hands of the quote far left. thank you very much. my thanks tojohn in
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the studio. japan's space agency appears to have successfully landed a spacecraft on an asteroid, more than 300 million kilometres away from earth. the hayabusa 2 spacecraft will try to collect rock samples. rupert wingfield—hayes sent us this report from tokyo. it appears to be a remarkable success forjapan's hyabusa two, and the country's space programme. the 600 kilogram craft had to fire its thrusters and gently touch down on an area of the asteroid just three metres wide, with the commands coming from 300 million kilometres away on earth. hyabusa two is then reported to have deployed its on—board gun, to fire into the surface of the asteroid come and collect samples of the rock thrown up by the impact. shortly after, the spacecraft lifted off the surface. it will now continue to fly alongside the ryugu asteroid for several more months and jaxa is planning another landing in the summer to collect more samples before hyabusa three returns
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to earth sometime next year. rupert wingfield—hayes, bbc news, tokyo. meanwhile, israel has launched its first moon mission — sending a landing vehicle into space on board a rocket which blasted off from cape canaveral in florida. the landing vehicle will now take two months to reach the moon. only government space agencies from the us, russia and china have previously managed soft touchdowns. we can speak now to andrew coates, who's head of planetary science at university college london about the significance of these space explorations. he joins us from guildford. thank you very much for talking to us. thank you very much for talking to us. two big developments, which do you think is the big significant cosmic in terms of science, the asteroid mission is fantastic. because, this is a type of asteroid which might have actually been
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involved in bringing water to as billions of years ago. so, it will tell us a lot about the formation of the solar system. so, for me, scientifically, that is the exciting mission, but the main mission is also very important, because if israel could become the first or the fourth nation to actually land on them and successfully, that is the also interesting. there's less science on that mission, the reason for that omission is really to that commercial type of organisations can type it might do these types of things. we've had commercial satellites orbiting earth but this will be the first time something has done been done on the men commercially. people would be surprised it has the technological know—how to actually carry out such a mission. this is the thing they are trying to show. the launch went well, so what they do it now
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actually is to have the spacecraft in orbit which will increase in size and eventually encounter at the moon. it's actually a uk rocket which is helping it to get there, so that's quite exciting. it's been put together by the israeli company involved. so, it will be quite amazing to land on the moon and to do some investigations. i think it may open up this sort of private and government partnership which is starting. it was actually launched bya starting. it was actually launched by a space x rocket, a us company involved in rocket launchers and that rocket successfully landed back on its landing site. so altogether, there are two exciting developments. and the japanese mission, to actually land on an asteroid seems in itself mind boggling and not only that, they are going to somehow fire a bullet into it to find out more about the make—up these

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