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so, respectful to your street? 50, respectfulto your family in street? so, respectfulto your family in what they are going through, with honesty that is my sense of view, good sir. i'm going to give you another opportunity to respond what you brushed off earlier regarding your own statement can your honest testimony, hours and 50 seconds in. you stated, regarding your credibility that you had been accused of having no credibility. it was for that reason i spent the last week searching boxes to find the information that i did so you don't have to take my word for it. i want you to look at the documents and make your own decisions. the documents you are referring to are the documents you submitted with your testimony today? is that correct? that is correct. you believe them to be worthy of evidence? i leave that to you. i
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will ask you again. where are those boxes that contain documents worthy of evidence to be presented to congress and why have they not been turned over to investigating authorities looking into some of the many criminal activities that you are allegedly cooperating in? where are allegedly cooperating in? where are the boxes? where is this treasure of evidence? the boxes i am referring to were boxes in my law offices when the fbi entered and seized documents. mr chairman... the authorities have noted what the gentleman has stated an action needs to be taken for those boxes to be seized and reviewed based on a warrant signed bya reviewed based on a warrant signed by a sitting judge. earlier today, mr cohen, quite incredulously did one of my colleagues ask you
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regarding the television deal, you expressed wonderment that your predicament could possibly get you on television. it has certainly got you on television today, has it not? i was on television going back to 2011 representing mr trump. i was on television going back to 2011 representing mr trumplj i was on television going back to 2011 representing mr trump. i didn't know who you are until today, really, until the fbi raided your home. most of america didn't know who you are. how many attorneys do you think mrtrump who you are. how many attorneys do you think mr trump has had through the course of his career? quite a few, i'd imagine, you're in the track right now and i understand you're trying to get out of it. you are ina you're trying to get out of it. you are in a bind. but i ask you, good sir, have you discussed film and book deals with your stated current attorney, mr davies? with mr davies? no, buti attorney, mr davies? with mr davies? no, but i have been approached by many people who are looking to do book deals, movie deals and so on.
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it leads me back to my instinct that co m pa res it leads me back to my instinct that compares you to many of the men i've arrested during the course of my career. mr chairman... with all due respect, sir... our primary hearing, to introduce the oversight committee, 116th congress of the american people has manifested in the way that it obviously is. this is an attempt to endanger our president, to lay some sort of soft cornerstone future impeachment proceedings. this is the full intent of the majority, and i yield my remaining 30 seconds to the ranking member. you said the southern district of new york isn't accurate in that statement. i'm sorry, say that again? the southern district of new york attorneys office, that
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statement is not accurate. you said it isn't a lie, it isn't accurate, do you stand by that? yes, i did not wa nt do you stand by that? yes, i did not want a role in the new administration. but, sir... can i finish, please? igot administration. but, sir... can i finish, please? i got exactly the role that i wanted. there is no shame to being personal attorney to the president. i asked mr trump for thatjob and he gave it to me. the president. i asked mr trump for that job and he gave it to me. all i'm asking, you're saying that statement from the southern district of new york is wrong?|j statement from the southern district of new york is wrong? i didn't write it and it isn't accurate. i thank you. one of the most significant events in the last presidential campaign was the dump of e—mails stolen from the democratic national committee, dumped by wikileaks. mr cohen, during your opening statement, which was at the height of the election, you testified you actually meeting with donald trump
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injuly 2016 actually meeting with donald trump in july 2016 when rogerstone happened to call. and tell mr trump you had just spoken to julian assange. is that correct? yes. you said that mr assange told mr trump about an upcoming "massive dump of e—mails that would damage hillary clinton's campaign. " i e—mails that would damage hillary clinton's campaign." i want to ask you about rogerstone's phone call to the president. first of all, was it oi'i the president. first of all, was it on speaker phone? yes, mr trump has a black speakerphone sitting on his desk. he uses it quite often because of the number of phone calls he gets. now, january of this year 2019, the new york times asked president trump if he ever spoke to rogerstone about these stolen e—mails. and president trump answered, "no, ididn't, i never did". was that statement is true?m isn't accurate to. and can you
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please describe to us to the best of your recollection exactly what mr stone said to mr trump? it was a short conversation. he said, mr trumpi short conversation. he said, mr trump i want to let you know that i just got off the phone withjulian assange and in a couple of days there's going to be a massive dump of e—mails. that is going to severely hurt the clinton campaign. and was mrtrump severely hurt the clinton campaign. and was mr trump and mr stone aware of where those e—mails came from? that i am not aware of. did mr trump ever suggest then or later to call the fbi to report this breach? he never expressed that to me. did the president at that time or ever since to your knowledge indicate an awareness that this conduct was wrong? no. the reason i ask is because injuly 22 on wrong? no. the reason i ask is
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because in july 22 on the eve wrong? no. the reason i ask is because injuly 22 on the eve of wrong? no. the reason i ask is because in july 22 on the eve of the democratic convention, wikileaks published as you know the 20,000 leaked internal dnc e—mails. could your meeting with mr trump have been before that date ? your meeting with mr trump have been before that date? yes. so, mr trump was aware of the upcoming dump before it actually happened? yes. is there any record... although i don't know what he knew the substance of it was, only that it was a dump of e—mails. it was, only that it was a dump of e-mails. he was aware of that before the dump occurred? yes, says. are there any records that would corroborate the date of this meeting, calendars, perhaps? i'm not in possession of it. it is part of the special counsel, i believe. they are the best suited to corroborate that information. was anyone else present in the room during the call? i don't recall for this one, no,
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sir. is there anyone else the committee should talk to about the president's knowledge about the wikileaks e—mail dump? president's knowledge about the wikileaks e-mail dump? again, when he called, roger's online which was regular practice. his assistant? yes. during a press conference july 27, 2016, then candidate trump publicly appealed to russia to hack hillary clinton's e—mails and make them public. you stated, "russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e—mails that are missing". going back to mr stone's phone call to the president, do you re call phone call to the president, do you recall if mr trump had knowledge of the wikileaks dump at the time of his direct appeal to russia?|j the wikileaks dump at the time of his direct appeal to russia? i am not. but the call with mr stone, you believe, was before this? yes. i thought you were talking about a
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different set of documents that got dumped. iwas different set of documents that got dumped. i was in mr trump as mike office eitherjuly 18 or 19th, dumped. i was in mr trump as mike office eitherjuly18 or 19th, and, yes, he went ahead. i don't know if the 35,000 or 30,000 e—mails which is what he was referring to, but he certainly had knowledge. one last question. mr raskin had been asking you some questions and one of the things in your answer was that mr packer expended other monies to protect mr trump. can you elaborate oi'i protect mr trump. can you elaborate on what some of those other activities were? sure, there was the story about mr trump having a love child with an employee... and the husband of that employee actually works for the company as well. and there was an elevator operator who claims he overheard the conversation taking place between one of mr trump as mike other executives and
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somebody, they ended up paying $15,000 in order to buy that story to find out whether it was true or not. that's just one example of things that david had done. it was the reason why in the recording... when david was looking to become the ceo of time magazine... we were concerned about, we will call at the treasure trove of documents created over the years, that if he left, somebody could open up the key to a draw and find all this information, so we were draw and find all this information, so we were going to look to buy all of those life rights and so on. thank you for testifying. i feel for your family, they have no part in this. i've heard all the testimony and i'm trying to decide what are you really sorry for what you did or did you just get caught? the thing
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that amazed me is that in your opening statement, which, let me quote... " last fall i pled guilty in federal court to felonies for the benefit of at the direction of and in coordination with individual one is great. is that the president? yes, sir. ok. you're crimes were of your own. . . yes, sir. ok. you're crimes were of your own... to benefit yourself. some of them, yes. go through all the ones with the real estate, with the ones with the real estate, with the banks. you failed to disclose more than $20 million in debt. you failed to disclose 70,000 monthly payments. 14 million line of credit. you failed to disclose that you had drawn all that so this was all for yourself. this wasn't for the benefit of president trump. this was to benefit michael cohen. that is my
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question, did you just get caught? you work for this man for ten years, mr cohen. you came in here with these "he is a con man, he's a cheat". this is the very man that did you wiretap him illegally? did you not wiretap president trump without his knowledge ?|j you not wiretap president trump without his knowledge? i did record mrtrump in the without his knowledge? i did record mr trump in the conversation, yes. is that a lawyer client privilege, something an honest lawyer would do? i actually never thought that this was going to be happening and that recording even existed. i had forgotten. but you did it. yes, i did. i had a reason for doing it. what was it? i knew he wasn't going to pay that money and david pecker had chewed me out on multiple occasions regarding other monies he had expended. this is a manual trusted, you take a bullet for, you secretly recorded. had you done
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legally or illegally recorded other clients? yes. legally or illegally? i believe they are legal. you don't have to tell them in new york state. sometimes always sometimes i use the recordings for note—taking. sometimes always sometimes i use the recordings for note—takinglj sometimes always sometimes i use the recordings for note-taking. i find it easier. if though shoe was reversed, would you like a trusted lawyer recording you ? reversed, would you like a trusted lawyer recording you? probably not, no. it is untrustworthy, something people wouldn't do. your bank loans iran down, did you ever default on any of these loans? no, sir. citibank didn't take any loss?|j haven't defaulted, i've neverfiled for bankruptcy. the loan you're referring to, i replace that from a different loan, paid it off mike. i own no banks any money. what about your taxi cab? the ones in chicago,
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yes, i have to sell them. however... new york, i don't. the industry is going through a major, major correction because of ridesharing. it's changed a lot of things. the value of it has? yes, sir. so, will the banks make you a loan again based on your record? actually, they did, post... the bank actually did, they refinanced the backing. so they've never had to do the loan loss reserve? i don't know, i didn't get the benefit of it, sir. that was on an auto commit? that is for their own banking... if they suspect you of lying, which were admitted to, if they suspect you have may be not being able to make your loan payment, they have to have a loan
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loss reserve that has 125% of what... loss reserve that has 125% of what. .. that loss reserve that has 125% of what... that is 20 million they had to post in their account, 20 million plus. they get no interest on it. you know who pays for that? the american public. sir, i am not in default. i am current on each and every one of those medallion loans and i've never owed any money to first republic bank. at the time that i had the loan, i had more cash sitting in that same bank than the loa n sitting in that same bank than the loan and mortgage combined. have you ever been to prague? never. never? never been to the czech republic. never. in each of your statements, you say you need to know that mr trump's personal lawyer is reviewed and edited my statement to congress about the timing of the moscow tower
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negotiations. who were those attorneys? from the white house? jay sekalo, i believe abbey below as well. and you have a copy of your original statement you can provide to the committee? i can get it for you. if you would do that. the letter of intent for the moscow tower, was it in the fall of 2015, correct? correct and. was there an expiration date? no. so it could be in effect today? no, it's been terminated. ok. did mr trump tell you to offer vladimir putin a free penthouse because no, madam, that was felix sado, it was a marketing stunt. so, felix ada had suggested to you that mr trump offer a penthouse to mr putin? yes because it would drive up the price per
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square foot. no different from any other tower. did you travel to europe in 2016? yes. did you meet with persons associated with the tower project? no, it was personal because my daughter was studying at queen mary. you didn't meet with any russians? no. there is an elevator tape referenced as a catch and kill product. it was of mr trump and a woman. presumably mrs trump, is this correct? is this in moscow or the trump tower elevator tape? there is an elevator tape that went up for auction in 2016. i've heard about this. who is on it? president trump and melania trump. what happened on that tape? the story goes that he
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struck melania trump while in that elevator because there is a camera inside, which i am not so sure, i'm certain it's not true. i've heard about that tape for years, i've known four or five different people, including folks from ami who have... i don't believe that auction was real and i don't believe mr trump ever struck melania trump, ever. are you aware of anyone purchasing that tape than? i don't believe it was ever tape than? i don't believe it was ever purchased. i know several people who went to go and try to purchase it. for catch and kill purpose. it doesn't exist. mr trump would never, in my opinion... that isn't something... good to know. is there a love child? and not to the best of my knowledge. to you to pay off someone not to... it was
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actually david pecker. so he paid off some of a love child that doesn't exist? yes, about $15,000. ok. doesn't exist? yes, about $15,000. 0k. about how many times did mr trump ask you to threaten an individual or entity on his behalf? quite a few times. more than a hundred times. 200 times? more, probably 500 times. and when you say threaten, we mean with litigation or an argument with a nasty reporter thatis an argument with a nasty reporter that is writing an article... what do you know about... let's go to your tapes. you said there's a hundred tapes? voice recordings. will you make them available to the committee? if you'd really like them. don't you have to gather that,
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sir? we would. did mr trump tape any conversations? not that i am aware of, no. were you involved in the $25 million settlement to trump university? i had a role in that, yes. pay the settlement? i believe it was mrtrump yes. pay the settlement? i believe it was mr trump but i don't know the answer. you don't know the answer because you know i was involved in a different aspect. was there a businessman involved in it from kansas? i don't know. my 13 seconds left, what do you want your children to know? i'm sorry for everything, sorry for the pain i've caused them and...i sorry for the pain i've caused them and... iwish sorry for the pain i've caused them and... i wish i could go back in time. thank you, i yield back. to the members of the committee, before we

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