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right down to the wire — the prime minister is on her way to strasbourg tonight for last minute talks ahead of tomorrow's crucial vote on her brexit deal. she'll meet the european commission today at 5:00: president, jean claude junker, at the start of a hugely significant tonight as she tries to get enough week in the brexit process, assurances on her deal to convince the talks between the uk and eu mps to back it tomorrow. are still deadlocked. the prime minister, attending a commonwealth service today, could soon be on her way to strasbourg for urgent talks with the eu with just 18 days in strasbourg, can the prime minister turn round a situation that to the agreed date for brexit. just a few hours ago the eu it comes as mps prepare described as bleak? for a second big vote with just 2a hours to go on the prime minister's before the crunch vote, deal tomorrow as labour it's thought mps could be updated in the next few hours on any demands more clarity progress made by theresa may. about the government's plans. also on the programme... more airlines have grounded their boeing 737 max 8 aircraft the prime minister has not achieved after yesterday's crash in ethiopia that left 157 people dead — one single change to her deal. including nine britons. charged with murdering she's simply running down to clock. 17—year—old jodie chesney who was stabbed in a london park — a 16—year—old boy and a 20—year—old we'll have the latest developments throughout the hour from westminster. the other main stories on bbc news at 5.00: following the murder
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of a 17—year—old in east london, a teenager and a man have appeared in court at separate hearings. and, investigators have found the voice and data recorders from the ethiopian airlines plane, which crashed yesterday, with the losss of 157 lives. and, a birmingham city fan has been jailed for m weeks, for assaulting aston villa captain jack grealish. it's 5:00pm. we're at westminster at the start of a hugely important week in the brexit process with just 18 days to the agreed date of the uk's departure from the european union. and there's a real sense of disquiet and alarm at westminster, as talks between brtiain and the eu
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are in deadlock, with no consenus in prospect on the changes to the withdrawal agreement. the prime minister, who might travel to strasbourg tonight, says her second meaningful vote on the brexit deal will take place in the commons tomorrow, despite speculation that it could be delayed, given the apparent lack of support among mps. if mrs may is defeated tomorrow, there would be further votes on ruling out a no—deal brexit and on delaying the brexit process. lots of things happening today. reports that senior leading brexiteers are being called in to see the government chief whip right 110w. see the government chief whip right now. is it about possibly some agreement is in prospect, a change to the agreement the prime minister will bring to the commons tomorrow? who knows? 0ur chief political correspondent vicki young joins me from the central lobby
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in the houses of parliament. do we have any idea there is movement here? not a lot of clarity but you do get a sense something is happening. at the weekend we were half expecting a last minute run to brussels, but now it seems like it could be a last—minute trip to strasbourg. that is still to be decided. but i thinkjust speaking to ministers and mps they feel there will be something to reason make an offer as a change to her agreement. whether it is enough, is a com pletely whether it is enough, is a completely different matter. there are, as you say, those brexit supporting mps. they are being spoken to but as yet, there is no detail about what exactly it might be theresa may could bring back. i did put to one minister saying, could there be a rabbit coming out of the hat? he said, let's hope it
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isa of the hat? he said, let's hope it is a live one. i don't think expectations are that high dipping across the dozens and dozens of mps to reason may needs to convince in order to get her deal through. the labour leaderjeremy corbyn, felt he wa nted labour leaderjeremy corbyn, felt he wanted to get the prime minister to come and address the house of commons. she couldn't do that, she was at a service, celebrating the commonwealth at westminster abbey. but he came to the commons and this is what he had to say about the prime minister. mr speaker, this is a master matter of trust. this prime minister has failed to negotiate, failed to compromise and delayed, delayed and delayed. after three months the prime minister has not achieved one single change to her deal. she has simply been running down the clock between no deal, her deal all the chaos of leaving the eu
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without any agreement with anyone. speaking to some of the conservative pro—brexit mps, what they wanted to do was bring forward the meaningful vote tomorrow. attached to it, their wish, what they want to be in it. i get the sense that government is shying away from that, thinking it would not be honouring what she promised, which was a vote on the meaningful vote. the problem for her, as the timetable is set out, if she were to lose the vote tomorrow, then certainly there will be repercussions. because there are mps trying to seize control of the whole process. this is what the brexit minister had to say this afternoon. the meaningful vote will take place tomorrow and the motion will be tabled today ahead of that debate. it is then that this house will face a fundamental choice — back the brexit deal or risk a delay that will mean months more
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arguing about brexit, prolonging the current uncertainty. uncertainty which will do nothing but pass control to brussels and increase the risks. it is incumbent on this house to deliver on the will of the british people and to provide certainty. tomorrow, honourable and right honourable members across this house will have the opportunity to do so in the meaningful vote, fully informed on the government's legal analysis. i believe that the right honourable gentleman and every honourable member in this house should take that opportunity to move forward and to provide certainty. so, a clear sense here there will be something the prime minister can offer. the speaker in the house of commons a few minutes ago suggested any statement, which we think would come from the brexit secretary, would be later on. we are expecting that around 6pm and all indications that around 6pm and all indications that will be around 9:30pm and then the government has to lay down the motion which can be amended by mps. it doesn't give mps much time to go through any changes there might be.
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while we were chatting, laura kuenssberg is saying on social media at the prime minister is understood to be going to strasbourg and will be leaving shortly or maybe has left in the last minute or so. but of course, that doesn't mean necessarily there is an agreement in prospect? no, i would necessarily there is an agreement in prospect? no, iwould say indications from downing street are that she would go but only if there isa that she would go but only if there is a point to going. i think it is unlikely she would make the journey if they weren't confident there would be something because that would be something because that would look even worse of her not going at all. there will be some expectation management at this moment. we do had expected a trip to brussels at the weekend, now it looks like it is a trip to strasbourg. mps might find out about the motion they will have to vote on tomorrow and any changes there might be. they won't have a long time to
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put down their own amendments or even look at it. the pro—brexit mps in the tory party and the european research group have their own panel of lawyers, mps and others who will scoui’ any changes of lawyers, mps and others who will scour any changes being proposed to see if they are legally binding changes. whether they effectively scupper what in the withdrawal agreement so the uk could unilaterally leave the backstop or whether there would be a time limit put on that. they will assess that before they decide how they will vote and that is that incredibly important vote tomorrow evening on the deal. for now, thank you very much. many more we will be back to you right away in the palace of westminster. laura kuenssberg saying the prime minister is now going to strasbourg this evening to have face—to—face talks with the commission presidentjean—claude juncker and laura saying it doesn't mean there is a deal definitely in prospect, but as we were pointing
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out, it would be odd for the prime minister to be rushing off to strasbourg if they didn't think with some confidence, they could come to some confidence, they could come to some deal. but anyway, that visit is going on. 0ur correspondent damian grammaticas is in brussels. would you agree this is unlikely it would be firmed up at this point u nless would be firmed up at this point unless something was there to be talked about? yes, i think it is a fair assumption to make. we have had literally in the last few seconds, passed to me, a note saying the same thing from the eu side. so parliament senior officials saying theresa may is coming to strasbourg tonight. you are absolutely right, we know over the weekend and through the day to day, there have been discussions on going to try to find something these two sides can latch onto. it seems you are right, there
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is something there. we don't know what but the indications were from the briefings we have been given from brussels today to the 27 other eu countries, to their representatives here, the briefings we re representatives here, the briefings were saying that over the weekend, talks had made some progress and it seems that progress has built around the sorts of ideas that michelle barnier had laid out at the end of last week on friday. so perhaps not something you put something in those reassu ra nces something you put something in those reassurances the government could latch onto, particularly perhaps over the issue about how the uk could use arbitration to try to ensure that the eu was acting in good faith, looking at all alternatives to the backstop, even when it came in. so giving the uk avenues it could try to pursue if it wa nted avenues it could try to pursue if it wanted to try to ease its way out. michelle barnier had been talking about stronger, legal assurances
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about stronger, legal assurances about the eu's good faith. it may be something about that, we simply don't know at this stage but with theresa may heading to strasbourg, if feels that there may be something there she can bring back. the difficulty, those talks over the weekend the eu were briefing to the 27 countries, they felt they had something with theresa may. it is understood she was unable to get that through cabinet and on sunday night she told jean—claude juncker, that wasn't enough. maybe they have made more progress today? the talk about possible extensions to article 50, is there new thinking there in strasbourg later this evening, it would be welcomed, the kind of extension we might get and what the eu might agree to? there is a lot of thinking and talk about this. the idea is an extension looks
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increasingly likely to have to be needed and that if it were needed, the likely date, the obvious date is the likely date, the obvious date is the european elections, which fall around the 24th, 23rd, 24th, 25th of may. up to that date it would be simple to envisage an extension. beyond that, possibly up to the end ofjune, but no further, because then you get into the problem of the new european parliament that would have been elected in may having to come and sit. would there be a new british meps coming to sit at that point? that would be a difficult issue to resolve. possibly up to may, may be the end ofjune, some things are being considered. damien, thank you very much. at this point we we re thank you very much. at this point we were going to be talking to iain duncan smith the prominent brexit supporter, he is in a meeting with
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the government chief whip. something are referred to at the start of the hour, but i am pleased to be joined by nicky morgan, in the conservative party, former conservative cabinet minister, thank you forjoining us. we will ask mr duncan smith what he was up to when he joined his we will ask mr duncan smith what he was up to when hejoined his but is this significant this meeting is taking place? do you sense there is something being offered, which was not on offer a couple of days ago? there have been discussions all weekend. it probably is significant given the prime minister is going to strasbourg. it is a good sign various people are being spoken to about what might potentially be on the table and whether that is something people feel will give them confidence to vote for the agreement. he said ian and i were on different sides, but we have been working together to try to find a way through. trying to find a way
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that addresses a number of concerns. we will only get this through if we all compromise. we should have an agreement in place to leave on the 29th of march. i think we are being joined by iain duncan smith. thank you forjoining us. we understand you forjoining us. we understand you have had a meeting with the chief whip and a lot of speculation about that, do you sense that something you and offer? it is difficult to say. but nikki is right, we have been working together. we are asking them to look at them to replace the backstop with alternative arrangements. we proposed the alternative arrangements and i gather now they are part of the discussions. i don't know what the outcome is, all i know now is they are reaching a point where they are about to have some kind of agreement. i am speculating, but that is my intention and there will be a statement tonight around 9pm which there will be one in
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strasbourg and one in the house of commons. they will lay the motion, as amended and that will be voted on tomorrow. but there needs to be time tomorrow. but there needs to be time to look at the legalities of this. the key thing was the attorney general should say that he is able to change his opinion and that no longer the backstop is an entrapment, as he said it was previously. everyone needs time to discuss that and we have a group of legal people who will look at that as well. it is tight but we have to do that work before reaching a final conclusion. but it sounds like they think they have something so that is what the statement will be about tonight. think it might change your perspective on how you vote tomorrow 01’ perspective on how you vote tomorrow or not? i will keep an open mind, as my colleagues are. we to see what it is and the legalities of that. is it good enough for him to change his advice, which was quite tough last time. so basically the agreement
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would leave us trapped in a backstop, which means they would have complete negotiating power over us, which is not good. if that changes and he is able to say it is different and the malthouse arrangements are part of a package signed up to by the eu, notjust discussed and with an end date, then that process is moving in the right direction, certainly. nicky morgan, can you decode a lot of that for people watching. we are now 18 days away from the agreed date for brexit. does it mean by the end of this week there is a better chance of having some kind of clarity or not? i think iain duncan smith is right, if the brexit secretary is going to give a statement to the house of commons, he will hopefully tell us what has been agreed or what has been agreed at that moment between the prime minister and jean—claude juncker. people have
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been arguing over the irish backstop. if there is a future relationship agreed between the uk and the eu there is a mechanism to avoid a hardboard on the border of northern ireland. the way it is done at the moment despite being part of at the moment despite being part of a customs relationship. we are saying there is an alternative way of doing that which would relate to how goods travel across the border and how they are checked. that means it is an alternative situation which will be put in place. that will give people the chance to consider their withdrawal agreement. the prime minister wants to put together mps and the dup, it isn'tjust the one vote she has to win, she has to get the legislation through the house of commons. even if you get oppositions voting for the agreement, building a
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strong enough coalition to keep the votes going through the legislation is very difficult. hopefully this is a step forward but i don't want to get people's hopes up because various people invested in this, constituents, they are running businesses and employing people and trying to make plans ahead. we need to be able to get on to talk about the future. one of the issues people will say to you, you are relaxed about this because you have said all along, the no deal option is not the scary option it is for so many other people. you think it is project fear. why would you be so keen to come on board at this stage?” fear. why would you be so keen to come on board at this stage? i have saidl come on board at this stage? i have said i would always prefer to have a deal, an arrangement we could genuinely coalesce around because it makes is easier to get the legislation through. we always wanted a deal, but the question is, what deal? there is no such thing as no deal because it isjust another kind of deal because they have made
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extensions of time, to settle it in and talks about landing rights and customs duties and the way things work at the borders. all these things are being settled but we were told couldn't be settled. the no deal is only noted this deal, they would be a deal, and a series of arrangements with the eu about making sure we don't get disruption. all that stuff is a deal. but i would prefer a deal that allows us to get on and decide quickly what future relationship, ifavour a to get on and decide quickly what future relationship, i favour a free trade relationship like canada plus, japan plus based on our own existing relationships but we need to get past the 29th of march to do that. that is why i am keeping an open mind about this particular set of changes. we will see if they come back with anything. but there is no fear from me one way or the other. i would prefer a deal that is not entrapment, but if not i do believe that leaving without such a deal
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actually will be fine and we will be able to get through it. but as i said, i prefera deal. able to get through it. but as i said, i prefer a deal. on the issue ofa said, i prefer a deal. on the issue of a possible extension, i will put this to nicky morgan in a minute, there are colleagues of yours who are enthusiastic about brexit who say the legislative timetable is now so tight and challenging that some kind of extension to article 50 is now inevitable? there are two elements to this extension business. the extension, because you have reached an agreement and you need a bit more time to get your legislation through and for them to ratify it on the other side. that has never been an issue because that will always happen and it is a practical issue. it is very limited. the idea you would have just an extension without any particular purpose other than you go on discussing these things, is a big mistake. we don't want any further loose ended extensions and people
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have talked about a year, two years and the next a referendum but we don't want any of that because it would be chaotic and a disaster. no to any of those open ended extensions, but we have reached an agreement and we need more time to get stuff through. that has never been an issue, it is practical and most people would agree with that, as long as it is very limited, a few weeks, that sort of things. if this goes through, as you say there is a massive legislative challenge ahead. for you, the prospect of an extension a sensible one? yes to getting legislation through, if we can do it in an orderly fashion. i am not keen on the idea of an extension for a three—month period for no obvious reason, other than
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the fact we are not ready to leave on the 29th of march. businesses are saying that could be less than helpful because all we could do is end up postponing where we are now. yes, it will be warmer outside but we won't be any more certain by the end ofjune. if we get to that stage and we get the agreement approved tomorrow we don't get on to votes about no deal and votes about an extension. if we do, i want to hear firmly from the government, why they wa nt firmly from the government, why they wantan firmly from the government, why they want an extension, what they plan to do and what will be different by the time we get to future votes. they are unknown answers at the moment. when the brexit secretary gets up tonight in the commons, what will be the key things that will basically switch on the lights for lots of you and your brexit supporters, what will you be looking for that will
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bring you on board in the way you haven't been so far? the first element is we need to note that the attorney's advice, which he gave la st attorney's advice, which he gave last time and that advice said categorically in terms, the existing agreement does leave the possibility of as being trapped without a way of getting out of the backstop that is subject as a rule take to the european union without any votes or decisions we can make to change that foran decisions we can make to change that for an indeterminate time. for ever, if necessary. we need him to say his advice must be, i now rescind that advice must be, i now rescind that advice and i change it and what we have here legally means we can get out of the backstop at a particular point as agreed, therefore we are not trapped. the second element and i think this is the bit nicky morgan referred to earlier, these alternative arrangements. the changes. they lock in the idea that the backstop doesn't become entrapment and that is to say you have changes made that we have open borders with northern ireland. also at dover and calais. these will be set around the idea of existing
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customs procedures, no longer the backstop we have now, which locks us into being members of the customs union for leaving ireland in the customs union. it will mean a more open border with easy facilities on that basis, already happening at the moment elsewhere and found into the treaty. so that will get rid of the backstop in the detail and if that was backstop in the detail and if that was bounded and signed with an end date for those configurations to be made after the 29th of march, that complements the legal advice and makes it strong that the backstop basically has gone and we are left with a more manageable and less threatening affair that allows us to negotiate our future arrangements. we are looking for those two elements for him to say it is no longer an entrapment. nicky morgan, question on the prime minister, on her way to strasbourg for an important meeting with jean—claude juncker. if that deal, revised in any way, is heavily defeated tomorrow, as the first one was, do you agree with some of your
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collea g u es you agree with some of your colleagues there will be serious questions about the prime minister's future? sadly, i think it is questions about the prime minister's future? sadly, ithink it is the case. if the agreement was defeated tomorrow and parliament effectively dismantled her strategy of the last two years dismantled her strategy of the last two yea rs by dismantled her strategy of the last two years by taking no deal off the table and extending article 50 so we didn't leave on the 29th of march, in normal political circumstances that would make her position difficult to sustain. the cabinet would say the prime minister, are you going to carry on, do you think you going to carry on, do you think you should carry on? but we are not in normal political circumstances and the context of how these things happen and in terms of discussions with the eu, of course would matter. 0bviously with the eu, of course would matter. obviously it would be very difficult to carry on in those circumstances. nicky morgan, thank you forjoining us. iain duncan smith, as well, thank you forjoining us. as i said, the prime minister is on her way to strasbourg and this was the scene behind downing streetjust a few
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minutes ago when the prime minister left to go to meetjean—claude juncker. let's look at those images. the outrider standing by, that is the back entrance to downing street near the treasury end and the foreign office. flanking horse guards parade and saintjames‘ park ready to take the prime minister to the airport for a short flight over to strasbourg to seejean—claude juncker, the president of the european commission, for this meeting which has been hastily convened this evening. while the prime minister is the and while the prime minister is the and while the prime minister is preparing to come
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back later, we know the brexit secretary will be making a statement in the house of commons around 9pm, based on any agreement, we assume, that the prime minister has come to withjean—claude that the prime minister has come to with jean—claude juncker. that will set the context for tomorrow's second meaningful vote in the house of commons. that is the sequence of events and joining us from strasbourg from another perspective is the irish mep for the ruling fine gael party in the republic of ireland, vice president of the european parliament, mairead mcguinness. that news isjust breaking and has been confirmed the prime minister is to travel to meet jean—claude juncker. we're not certain and we have no indication anything has changed from over the weekend, though we would hope there is some movement. we are speculating, as you are, as to what the meeting will be about. will it be about these arrangements are reassu ra nces be about these arrangements are reassurances europe is willing to offer. i listen to part of your earlier conversation and the eu is steadfast about with the withdrawal agreement and its integrity. in particular around the irish protocol because it is an insurance policy. when people are suggesting there will be a break there, it cannot
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happen because europe has been clear it wouldn't happen. we are willing to do whatever it takes in terms of reassurances. i would like to refute this idea the european union wants to trap the united kingdom within its territory of europe. what the european union is focused on, as this parliament is on, is getting brexit sorted in an orderly way, so we can all move on to the many other challenges we face. we want to close partnership, but we need a withdrawal agreement. there is some speculation that what if the deal is rejected, what if no deal is rejected? will the rejected, what if no deal is rejected ? will the house rejected, what if no deal is rejected? will the house of commons vote for an extension? those are numbers i have not crunched yet. if thatis numbers i have not crunched yet. if that is not the case, what are the consequences? europe will be in some
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difficulty as to the length of the extension because it would overs ha d ow extension because it would overshadow and impact on parliamentary elections here to the european parliament and impact on member states. because we have left everything, the negotiations have run until the last moments, we have added complications to the entire process. we are hoping for events to move ina process. we are hoping for events to move in a positive way but we have no certainty that will be the case. we hope this meeting will bear fruit. i am conscious that gap between the ask and what can be delivered, in my view is still quite large. what is the level of concern in the republic of ireland about the prospect of a no—deal brexit? in the republic of ireland about the prospect of a no-deal brexit? the concern is, the withdrawal agreement and the issues around ireland will be maintained and supported by the house of commons. no—deal brexit is bad for all of us, including the united kingdom. there is a sense when i hear some commentators that
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it would be europe and ireland that would suffer. but everybody would suffer. 0ur businesses, farmers and everybody is looking at how to minimise the damage and no deal would cause. the question we are not asking yet, in the event of a no deal, which might happen by accident rather than design, given it is on the statute books in the uk, what would happen the next day? the european union and the united kingdom cannot part on bad terms and never speak again. we would have to think about what would happen in the worst—case scenario about the relationship between the two blocks. we need now to focus on that possibility, although it is still on the table, but focus on what the next 48 hours will deliver. i don't have a vote in the house of commons but we will be watching with great
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interest, i hope people who have the vote, the consequences of their choice. not only for their own country but also for the countries around europe, the 27 other member states who have acted in good faith in these negotiations. thank you for your time today. it has just turned 5:30pm, moore and brexit injust a it has just turned 5:30pm, moore and brexit in just a moment, it has just turned 5:30pm, moore and brexit injust a moment, but let's have a quick look at the weather, with ben. today is what they call the calm before the storm. it has been a decent day for many of us. for the rest of this week we are back to third live and whether, in fa ct very back to third live and whether, in fact very turbulent, heavy rain and severe gales, going downhill rapidly across northern ireland and scotland this evening with heavy bursts of rain, gusty winds and wet weather into northern england and north
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wales, with gusts of up to 60 and 70 mph for exposed spots in the north—west and temperatures overnight between five and nine celsius. tomorrow morning, across the north, the midlands, wales, some heavy downpours, and the longest rain band some gusting winds. behind that, the wind is easing a little with a mixture of sunshine and showers, but plentiful showers packing back into the north—west by the end of the day. on tuesday night, storm gareth promises to bring some very strong winds and heavy downpours. this is the sort of weather that could cause some disruption. ben rich with the latest on the weather. it has gone 5:30pm at westminster. we will have more on the brexit process shortly and we will be talking to an aviation
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expert after that dreadful crash involving ethiopian airlines, but first, let's catch up with the day ‘s sport. we have some breaking news, exciting news. zinedine zidane is returning to real madrid less than one year after the frenchman left. he will sign a three—year contract. it has just been confirmed by the club in spain. he oversaw the most successful period in the modern era for the club, with seven trophies, playjust 100 era for the club, with seven trophies, play just 100 games, era for the club, with seven trophies, playjust100 games, i'd sign that included a 1k game unbeaten streak. jose mourinho and morrissey pochettino had been tipped for thejob but it morrissey pochettino had been tipped for the job but it appeared that zinedine zidane could not resist a call from the president at real madrid to return. in the middle of a bad spell at the moment, out of the
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champions league and out of the spanish title race, having lost twice to barcelona in quick succession. breaking news just coming through, from real madrid is that zinedine zidane will return, and that means he is likely to return for the next game this weekend against celta vigo and could be in time to take training this tuesday. a birmingham city fan who pleaded guilty to attacking the aston villa captain jack grealish yesterday has been sentenced to 1a weeks in prison. paul mitchell hit grealish from behind about 10 minutes into villa's game at st andrew's. he admitted assault and encroachment onto the pitch at birmingham magistrates‘ court. he been banned from attending football matches for ten years. manchester city manager pep guardiola says the club's players and fans "need to dream" if they are to win a first champions league title. his side play schalke in
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the last 16 second leg tomorrow at their etihad stadium, 3—2 up from the first leg, and guardiola believes they need to push themselves, given their relative inexperience in the competition. this competition is judged when you are out in the last 16, it is a big disaster. my perspective and my approach is completely different. it is a big success being there for the teams this season, next season in the champions league, it is a big success. we will be even closer, ourselves and liverpool are closer to do that. moving beyond the group stage is an incredible success in my point of view. england cricket head coach trevor bayliss has shed some light on the departure of batting coach mark ramprakash. bayliss will step down as head coach after this year's world cup and ashes series and says the new managing director at the ecb ashley giles made the decision not to renew ramprakah‘s contract. we did have a conversation with him.
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i think there has been a few more, obviouslyjoe is the captain of the team and would have been involved as well. ashley has some thoughts on where he thinks the team, squad and coaching staff need or want to go to. that is a decision that's been made. we will carry on. athletics' world governing body — the iaaf — say russian athletes will remain banned from international competitions until further notice. the iaaf turned down russia's appeal for reinstatement, which is at odds with other sporting bodies such as the world anti doping agency and the international olympic committee. the iaaf banned russian athletes from competing back in november 2015 following evidence of state sponsored doping. there are two outstanding issues. those need to be resolved.
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we are in close contact with wada in order to get access to the data, and as soon as we have everything we need and the aru report back to us that they have everything they need we will seriously consider the options and recommend to the iaaf council for reinstatement. that's all the sport for now. the breaking news, the top story, zinedine zidane returning to real madrid. all 157 people on board the flight to nairobi were killed including seven british nationals. it was the second crash in the past five
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months, and two flight recorders have been recovered from the crash site and are being examined by investigators. richard lister has the latest. minutes after take off the ethiopian airlines flight 302 plunged into farmland killing everyone on board. the fact that there is so little of it left suggests it fell almost vertically at great speed. from above, the crash site appears contained, dominated by a single crater. climb and descent, particularly klein, the most critical phases of flight. that is an industry standard across the board for all aircraft. so anything that goes wrong in those stages, it is going to be more potentially, carry more consequences, worst case scenario, being catastrophic. carry more consequences, worst case scenario, being catastrophicm carry more consequences, worst case scenario, being catastrophic. it is the second time such an aircraft has
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crashed in five months, this is the wreckage from a crash in indonesia last october. it also came down minutes after take—off. the initial crash report focused on maintenance, a faulty sensor in the anti—stall system. the question for investigators is whether these two accidents may be linked. the victims in the crash on sunday came from 35 countries, seven of them british, among them a polar expert who was heading to a un conference in nairobi. joanna toole, an environmental campaigner was going to the same event. it isjust tragic that she could not carry on to achieve more. she was very well known in her own line of business and has had many tributes already paid to her. around the world airlines with boeing 737 max eight aircraft in the feet are taking
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stock. china has grounded theirs. the anglo german tour company tui has 15 but says that all of its planes are safe to fly. at the crash site the authority said they had found the black box voice and data recorders from flight 302. airlines and passengers will be hoping that they can explain this disaster. let's get more on this now from sally gethin, an aviation analyst with the e—magazine gethin's inflight news— who was featured in that report. what are the issues around this aircraft as far as you can tell now? the anti—stall mechanism has become a focal point. whether that played a pa rt a focal point. whether that played a part in the second crash, boeing did send out guidance to its airline customers that were operating the max eight at that point, i'm going back to the lion air crash last
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year, those airlines were given that guideline and the recommendation to implement it so the airlines have been busy doing that but here we have a similar scenario. whether every airline implemented that guidance in the manuals and incorporated into their training is open to question. is that not monitor that an authority level? each airline has a duty, it is incumbent on them to implement that and each country has a civil aviation authority as we have here in the uk and each country will issue mandatory instructions to those airlines which they have to follow. what do you think will be the next steps in this investigation? they will be analysing the contents, as you pointed out, as your correspondent pointed out, as your correspondent pointed out, as your correspondent pointed out, of the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder. that will be analysed. there has to be a full, physical,
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forensic investigation into the crash site. nothing can be rolled out at this stage. everybody is jumping to the conclusion that it is the aircraft type but at this point we simply do not know and experts in crash investigation will need to keep all of their options open and on the table as they go forward. what will be the kind of investigation going on within boeing itself? this is a pivotal day for boeing. they have been tight—lipped in their statements. which obviously they are very guarded, one can imagine they need to do that. they are going out to the crash site, operating with the ethiopian authorities over that. they will have to issue guidance to other airline customers to reassure them. they did respond to the lion air crash but this is a whole new ball game, and if it does turn out to be that particular aircraft type it could turn out to be catastrophic for this whole series of max
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aircraft from the seven through to the ten, all due to roll out with hundreds on order by many different airlines. thank you, sally. an aviation expert talking to us about the investigation is going on into the investigation is going on into the aftermath of that crash and indeed what is going on within boeing itself. a teenager and a man have appeared in court at separate hearings charged with the murder of jodie chesney, the 17 year—old girl stabbed to death while with friends in a park in romford in east london. manuel petrovic — who's 20 and croatian — appeared at the old bailey. a 16 year—old boy went before barkingside magistrates. both were remanded in custody. the home secretary sajid javid has said the "only person responsible" for the death of shamima begum's three—week—old baby was "the foreign terrorist fighter". the case of the 19—year—old,
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born in bethnal green but who travelled to syria to be with isis as a "jihadi bride", was raised in the commons during an urgent question from the shadow home secretary diane abbott. she said that the the british public thought his decision to strip begum of british citizenship was unjust and unfair. but the home secretary accept that the child is british? does he accept that the british legal system does not hold children responsible for the wrongdoing of their parents? gusty also accept that, despite what ministers have said about the dangers of sending officials into the refugee camps, aid workers, doctors and journalists go backwards and forwards into these camps all the time? does he further accept that by stripping shamima begum offer nationality, he made it impossible for her to fulfil her duties as a mother and bring her baby home to a safe place? and can he confirm as he said earlier, that as well as taking legal advice he
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also took advice from the police and security services about the dangers or otherwise of bringing shamima begum home? can he explain to the house why he did this white 19 girl with her not quite three—week—old baby more dangerous to britain than the hundreds of foreign fighters that have already been to return? diane abbott, the shadow home secretary for labour. saj —— sajid javid said he had done nothing illegal or wrong and was determined to keep the country safe. it is not about citizenship but about the ability to help, the ability of the british state to help, to send in any officials, whether foreign office officials or others into syria and a war zone, they would be risking their own safety of those officials, and that is why the foreign office has been very clear,
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ever since 2011, that no british citizens should travel to syria underany citizens should travel to syria under any circumstances, because it is incredibly dangerous. and that is the view, also taken by almost every other liberal democracy, when it comes to the children from their own countries, their own citizens when it comes to syria. the honourable lady suggested that, when it comes to the citizenship deprivations that somehow the government is making people stateless, she quite rightly stated that that would be illegal, it would be illegal under international law, so that means that no such decision can be made, whether by this home secretary, by my predecessors, by previous labour home secretary is, no decision under international law can be made unless the home secretary is satisfied, based on expert advice, that that individual will not be left
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stateless. mr speaker, the death of any british child, even those children born to a terrorist fighter isa children born to a terrorist fighter is a tragedy, but the only person responsible for the death of that child is the foreign terrorist fighter. the home secretary, sajid javid, speaking in the commons this afternoon. the queen hasjoined other senior royals to mark the 70th anniversary of the birth of the commonwealth. they were joined by a 2000—strong congregation at westminster abbey for a service which honoured the institution which has been a pivotal part of her 66—year reign. the commonwealth represents almost 2.5 billion people around the world. more on the brexit process, and the votes expected to take place here in westminster over the coming days, starting with the so—called meaningful vote on the prime minister's brexit deal with the eu, which mps are to vote on tomorrow.
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to discuss this in more detail i'm joined now byjill rutter from the independent organisation the institute for government. thank you for waiting patiently for us. the prime minister has gone to strasbourg to have another round of urgent talks with jean—claude juncker. should be read into that, in your view, that there's something in the offing in terms of any new gloss or agreement the withdrawal agreement? very much so, prime ministers do not get into motorcades with the cameras trained on them unless they are going to have something to show for it at the end. this is, it is much more likely to be the prime minister and jean—claude juncker revealing what has been negotiated over the weekend and what this has done it has pushed the timetable back for the day enormously so they had been waiting for a statement by the brexit secretary stephen barclay, that is not now expected until 9pm so a government motion for tomorrow's vote has not gone down yet so we are
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on tenterhooks to see what the prime minister will have to show for this. the nine o'clock statement tonight will be based on any agreement that is reached between the prime minister and jean—claude juncker, would that be the point to make, if there had been an agreement? there will be a statement before the motion tomorrow, someone will have to explain to the commons what they are being asked to vote on but the fa ct are being asked to vote on but the fact that it has been delayed, the fa ct fact that it has been delayed, the fact that it has been delayed, the fact that the prime minister has gone to strasbourg, there is a bit of orchestration and theatre, followed of orchestration and theatre, followe d u p of orchestration and theatre, followed up by this coming statement then we will see what the government is proposing and there will be speculation about whether mps will be voting on her deal, in some sort of national deal that the uk would like to see, perhaps not yet agreed so the prime minister might manage the pull off the trick of putting forward a deal, and we have heard stories of people being summoned to downing street to be given a preview, to get some support from the people who have been most
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sceptical about the prime minister's deal to date. sceptical about the prime minister's dealto date. in any sceptical about the prime minister's deal to date. in any revised deal, if you like, but did you detect that there is any change to? do you detect there is any kind of vibe coming from the palace of westminster that people might be looking forward to something that is more of a meaningful change than they have got so far? we will wait to see. the european research group have said they have their team of lawyers lined up to scrutinise. the first act will be what does geoffrey cox the attorney general say? there was cox the attorney general say? there was quite a lot of pressure on the junior dexeu minister answering a question from jeremy corgan about when mps would see the legal advice, they would not have much time to scrutinise it so expect that legal advice and lots of lawyers to be doing their own scrutiny to say, does it amount to anything? is this more of an excuse for people to back
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down and be able to find a reason to back down or anything of substance, then we will see the motion, then we will see as well what mps do to the motion tomorrow. the other thing they were worried about was they would not have much time to look at that and make amendments. and then if you add onto that, the huge legislative challenge that follows any approval of a deal, are we then looking inevitably at some kind of extension of this process or not? we probably are because the deal will not be signed, sealed and delivered until next week, the european council and eu will have to find some way of endorsing it. the withdrawal agreement is a complicated piece of legislation. the government might think it is easier to get through with fine pressure on mp5, but there will be what's in that that mps will not like when they look at the detail, very much, but the prime minister herself has been talking about a bit ofa herself has been talking about a bit of a technical extension so the government is warming us up to say,
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if it takes a few weeks more, we are still leaving, we will leave in good order, it is better to get the statute book ready than to try to rush everything through at too much haste. thanks to jill from the institute for government. let's take a look at what was going on about 30 minutes ago because this is the back entrance to downing street, the prime minister leaving number ten, not the usual front door, the back entrance with the outrider standing by to take the prime minister to the raf base which is just to the west of london for that flight out to strasbourg, a pretty rapid departure for the prime minister, to get there pretty quickly to talk to jean—claude juncker. and as jill rutter was telling us, we should get some kind of signal, i suppose, about the possible outcome of those talks were in the brexit secretary gets up in the house of commons at
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about 9pm tonight. that's probably the expectation, but why don't we put that to someone who knows this process inside out, the daily telegraph deputy political editor, stephen swings with. what is your reading of things? something is afoot. the prime minister will get off the plane in strasbourg, go straight to meetjean—claude juncker, then there is a press conference that the eu has scheduled for 9pm, angela merkel says we have an important offer to make to the uk and it feels like by the end of the day we will have some kind of deal that the prime minister can then put to parliament. what is your sense of the prospects here? we spoke to iain duncan smith, he has an aria of powerful colleagues will be scrutinising all of this. what is your sense of where this is leading to? the most important thing that has happened in the last hour is not the prime is the getting on the plane to strasbourg, it is iain duncan smith and others going into the chief whip and a merging with relatively positive noises. these
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are people who have described the prime minister's deal in all sorts of extraordinarily negative language, and suddenly something is happening, they seem to sound much more positive. not going into detail on what offers on the table, but it is certainly maybe something that is more towards what they are looking for and that they can vote for and if you are getting positive noises from people like that then she could then bring round the dup and what seemed impossible this morning is suddenly a possibility, she could win this thing. she could get the deal through despite everything? yes. a remarkable turnaround. this morning ministers were telling me they thought they would lose by 200 votes. so there are still sufficient eurosceptics that are critical of the deal and may be the star chamber of eurosceptics looks at it and says this is not good enough, but certainly as we stand here this evening we are much closer to a deal than we were earlier today. just to tease that out a little more, it could be that there are lots of
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eurosceptics desperate to get on board at this point, that they will be satisfied with something modest, or it could be that the prime minister has exceeded expectations of some colleagues and got something rather more meaningful out of jean—claude juncker and his colleagues, which of those is it, do you think? probably closer to the latter. there would always be a ha rd core latter. there would always be a hardcore 20 eurosceptics who would oppose the prime minister's deal for more grams than just the backstop, there are other things that they are concerned about. if she can get more people to climb down as she gets closer to a deal, i spoke to someone who voted against her deal earlier today and they said it would not ta ke today and they said it would not take much for me to back it, they just need to move it a bit. there are quitea just need to move it a bit. there are quite a few on the moderate side but it is a question of how many of the erg she can whittle down, but if you can get people like iain duncan smith or steve baker sounding positive about it, something is changing and this is much more positive for her. what if you lose
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is backed by a much smaller majority? that buys a little bit of space, but then the parliamentary process begins, and it grinds on, so if there's a boat or no—deal the following day, that could get taken off the table entirely, then article 50 the following day after that could be extended or request to extend it could go in so mps would then take control to take away the things they don't like, no deal, to try to extend article 50, so the process will grind on regardless then we would look at another meaningful boat in the final week before brexit and she would be damaged but if the majority was smaller then she would be doing better than last time. this would be a remarkable turnaround as you say but then you have this enormous legislative challenge and the bill itself which would be highly complex, ina itself which would be highly complex, in a very short space of time. absolutely. every cabinet minister i've spoken to concedes we need an extension of article 50. the question on everyone's lips in
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westminster is how long that will be, a short technical extension of a couple of months, or they have been talking about in france, 21 months or even longer, and the remainder mps want that to be as long as possible because they see the extension as being the path to a second referendum that will keep britain in the european union. fascinating talking to you, thanks very much, stephen swings bid for the daily telegraph. thanks for him for his expert views as to what is going on. the bbc news at six is coming up. let's catch up with the weather with ben rich once again. after a turbulent weekend, today has bought something a little more calm. but it will not last. through the rest of this week, further bouts of heavy rain and severe gales in the forecast. there could well be some disruption. going downhill quickly across western areas today, some wet and windy weather developing tonight, with gusts of between 50 and 70 mph in the most exposed spots
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in the north—west. temperatures overnight ranging from 5329 celsius. tomorrow, we have this band of wet and windy weather across northern england, wales, the south—west, eventually into east anglia and the south—east. behind that, the wind is easing a bit, but they pick up again across the far north—west later in the day with some more wet weather swinging in towards north—west scotla nd swinging in towards north—west scotland and northern ireland, associated with this deep area of low pressure that has been named storm gareth, which could bring disruption late on tuesday and early on wednesday.
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