tv BBC News at Ten BBC News March 13, 2019 10:00pm-10:31pm GMT
tonight at ten, we're at westminster, where mps have voted against leaving the eu without a formal agreement. the ayes to the right, 321. the noes to the left, 278. on two occasions, mps rejected a no—deal brexit. those voting included several ministers who refused to obey theresa may's instructions. it's another heavy setback for the prime minister, who warned mps that a delay in the brexit process is likely unless they back a deal. the uk will leave the eu without a deal unless... unless something else is agreed. the onus is now on every one of us in the house to find out what that is. let us as a house of commons work now to find a solution to deal with the crisis facing this country.
we'll have the story of tonight's chaotic events at westminster, with just 16 days to the set date for britain's departure from the eu. also tonight. the usa finallyjoins dozens of other countries in grounding the boeing 737 max 8, the model which has crashed twice in the space of six months. the long—awaited decision on whether former soldiers will be prosecuted for their part in the bloody sunday shootings in londonderry in 1972 will be announced tomorrow. we hear from the officer who gave the orders. yes, well, we thought, in fact, that we were under attack. we will actually remain convinced of that, actually, until the end of our days. in it goes towards main—macro! that is the one that liverpool needed! —— towards sadia and in tonight's football,
liverpool beat bayern munich to make it to the champions league quarterfinals. and coming up in the sports news on bbc news, altior makes it 18 wins in a row, winning the queen mother champion chase at cheltenham. good evening from westminster, where it's been a night of chaos and confusion in the brexit process, with just 16 days to the set date for britain's departure from the eu. in a series of votes tonight, mps rejected any prospect of a no—deal brexit. those votes involved several ministers refusing to obey theresa may's instructions, and their future in government is now in doubt. the votes are not legally binding but mps will now get a vote tomorrow on delaying the brexit process, although that would depend
on the eu's approval. the prime minister warned the house of commons that a delay was not likely to be approved unless mps backed a deal very soon. we start tonight with our political editor laura kuenssberg on tonight's momentous votes. there really was something worth watching for the small crowd outside the commons tonight, a vote, a result, the prime minister never wanted. it is a node to no deal. the country voted to leave. the country voted to leave stop when you're stupid, you've given away a bit of squeaky bum time. the right, 321, the noes to the left, 278. —— the ayes to the right. parliament one and the prime ministers, mps clearly said we should never leave the eu without a deal, but what now? the house has today provided a clear majority against living without a deal, however, iwill majority against living without a deal, however, i will repeat what i said before. can she really say
nothing has changed? the legal default in uk and oonagh mccullough remains that the uk will leave the eu without a deal unless... unless something else is agreed. struggling to be heard, notjust because of her failing voice. the house has to understand and accept that if it is not willing to support a deal in the coming days and as it is not willing to support leaving without a deal on the 29th of march, then it is suggesting there will need to be a much longer extension to article 50. the house needs to face up to the consequences of the decision it has taken. through the noise, understand, the prime minister's not ditching her deal. instead, she is warning mps, vote for it soon or brexit faces a long delay. in the la st brexit faces a long delay. in the last 24—hour is, parliament has decisively rejected both her deal
and no deal. while the extension of article 50 is now inevitable, the responsibility for that extension lies solely and squarely at the prime minister's door. parliament must now take control of the situation. let us as a house of commons work now to find a solution to deal with the crisis facing this country and the deep concerns that many people have. it is up to us as the house of commons to look for and find a solution to their concerns. that is what we were elected to do. the astonishing thing about tonight's defeat for number ten, it only happened because some ministers, who sat around the same table in there this morning, ignored the prime minister's instructions and abstained, a total breakdown in discipline. i am not resigning because i support the prime minister in her course of action. her course of action is to leave with a deal in
an orderly brexit. but ijust, i am very clear i don't support a no—deal brexit and i have made that clear on numerous occasions. he looks strange because this is not, repeat, just not normal. there is already an angry push back against ministers who did not vote with the government, even though their allies insist they were told they could. any minister who has defied the whip could should consider their position. they should resign from government —— the whip should stop ata government —— the whip should stop at a junior minister quit the front bench to vote against the party line. within days, theresa may will ask mps to choose her deal or delay but could tonight's fiasco be for nothing? i tell the government now that when the third meaningful vote comes back, i will see to it that we are now what we owe to them, to keep voting this down, however many times it was brought back, whatever pressure we are put under and come what may. please don't do it, go
back to the eu and say it won't pass. but for some time to ministers have privately hoped the threat of slamming the brakes on brexit could push and shove parliament towards backing a deal they hate. parliament has done this to us. the weakness frankly of certain ministers has done this to us. the weakness of the labour party has done this to us. tonight, i am angry and bewildered at having a gun to my head to vote for a wretched deal or not to leave. number ten believes the eu when they say the deal as it stands really, really is it. the chief negotiator, brandishing the treaty today, and he said it is the only one. within days, that deal, the prime minister's deal, will be back in front of parliament for another verdict. theresa may are pursuing a strategy by bizarre design or political accident? losing, strategy by bizarre design or politicalaccident? losing, losing, and then losing again, with the hope, finally, to win.
and our political editor laura kuenssberg is with me. we now have a brexit process in chaos and as you said in your report, we have a government where discipline has broken down. com pletely discipline has broken down. completely and in the words of one cabinet source, there's been absolute pandemonium tonight, no question about that. cabinet ministers are ignoring the instructions at the party line, abstain instead of voting with theresa may to prevent parliament ruling out the idea of a server leaving the european union without a formal arrangement in place. —— of us ever leaving the european union. it has been a totally extraordinary night but there are some clear results out of it we should underline. first, parliament has made it clear, onlyjust come about clear that they would not allow the uk to leave the european union after decades and decades without there being a formal arrangement in place. they have not changed the law, it could still happen as far as the legal default is concerned but that is what parliament's wheel is. the second thing is, the prime minister
is now over a warning for her mps, you vote to my deal or brexit will be delayed for a long time. peshmerga vote for my deal. she's also suggesting mps will vote again on her deal that has been defeated so heavily twice within a few days. which brings me to the wording of this motion in the prime minister's name tomorrow, the wording is notable and that clearly puts a lot more pressure on mp5. notable and that clearly puts a lot more pressure on mps. absolutely, the government motion tomorrow says evenif the government motion tomorrow says even if her deal goes through, brexit will have to be extended until the end ofjune in order to give them time to tidy up the legislation, if theresa may's dream of actually passing the thing comes true. but that date alone does not give us a guide as to what happens next because as she says, if it is voted down, then clearly a longer delay is something that might be on the stocks. tomorrow, parliament has an opportunity to say, let's slam the brakes on the whole thing. but
she well knows that there are brexiteer‘s —— brexiteers on the backbenches and in government who may think again about scaring away from her deal if it means somehow that the whole process could be really dramatic as —— dramatically slow down. law, we will talk again. thank you forjoining us. —— laura. our europe editor katya adler joins us from brussels. after today's tablet events at westminster, what is the perspective in the european union?|j westminster, what is the perspective in the european union? i think if you have a look at european union leaders tonight, their mood is a heady mixture of confused, bemused, irritated, frustrated. i mean, i keep getting phone calls and text m essa 9 es keep getting phone calls and text messages from my european contacts, asking me what is going on in the uk, and if i can predict for them what is going to happen. of course, i'm not quite able to do that. as for tonight's vote, certainly, european union leaders can see that
what happened was phenomenally important politically, but that alone does not stop the clock. the eu says just voting against a no—deal brexit does not stop it from happening. mps uniting around a deal, theresa may's deal or some other realistic option is the way to stop a no—deal brexit. for now, the eu has decided to take a big step backwards. the european commission says theirjob is done. they were tasked by eu leaders to negotiate an exit deal with theresa may and they did that. now they say it is up to parliament to decide what exactly happens next. after tonight's vote, the commission said there are two ways to leave the eu, with a deal or without a deal, and the eu is prepared for both options, so which way is the uk going tojump? and by the way, says the eu, just asking to delay brexit does not put off a no—deal brexit, either. but i think you are nigh will probably be discussing extensions tomorrow. —— you and i will probably. we will
talk tomorrow, as you say, katya adler in brussels, there. despite tonight's vote, rejecting the no deal scenario, ministers are continuing to prepare for the possibility of a no—deal brexit. the government has set out which tariffs or taxes would apply to goods imported to the uk in the event of no deal. the proposals have been widely criticised by business leaders and farming groups. in a moment, we will be hearing what it means for northern ireland from our correspondent emma vardy, but first, here's our business editor simonjack. when it comes to world trade, the uk is a member of a club. club eu allows members to trade freely with each other. non—members have to pay for entry. they are charged agreed tariffs on many of the goods they bring in. if we leave the club without any agreement, we can charge whatever we want, but we have to make sure everyone in the world pays the same. today, the government set out what those charges would be. at the moment, we as members slap additional charges on a range of non—eu imports including oranges, jam, carpets and tvs. the government said it will reduce
all of those to zero, and that will make those foreign imports cheaper, potentially driving down prices. but some industries are worried that foreign competition could damage domestic producers, particularly in agriculture. so the government's said it will keep the same charges on lamb imports to protect sheep farmers. it will also charge tariffs on beef. that could hurt irish farmers who export to the uk. and remember, uk farmers will have to pay to export into the eu. even though sectors like beef that you touch on where we will have some protection, that won't help us at all in terms of our exports. we don't yet know what on earth will happen in terms of export tariffs. and for me, that's why no deal is still catastrophic for the farming sector. remember, you have to apply the same rules to everyone. so some things we used to get tariff—free from the eu will get
more expensive, like cars. 70% of all the cars bought in the uk last year were imported from the eu. if we leave with no deal, a new tariff charge of 10% will be added to the price. that's an average of around £1,500 per car. cars being exported from the uk to europe will face a tariff of over 10% when they land in europe. that's a big negative shock for the uk car industry. if the government was to unilaterally cut tariffs on imports, that would be a very uneven playing field and it would mean an even bigger shock for the uk car industry, so they will want to keep some degree of protection. but let's be clear. this will make cars in the uk more expensive and consumers will lose out. this is just what the uk is charging. the eu will have to charge the uk the same as it charges all other non—members, making uk exports more expensive for eu customers. that means more products could stay in the uk, pushing prices down, which could be good for consumers, but bad for producers.
this new regime will run for a year's experiment, and only if there is no deal, something businesses and most of parliament still hope will never happen. but if it does, what will happen in northern ireland? farmers in northern ireland were told today if there is no deal, goods from the irish republic will be able to travel into northern ireland, duty free. but northern irish producers may have to face full eu charges going the other way. it would keep an open irish border with no checks or controls, but that's too one—sided, they say. there's something like 400,000 lambs from northern ireland who travel south every year and we would face a full tariff of £35 to £40 sterling per lamb, which isn't sustainable in the sheep industry. we couldn't handle that sort of tariff, so it is very disappointing that we are being treated as farmers in this way.
there are also warnings that the special arrangements for the irish border could be exploited if irish producers decided to re—route their goods through northern ireland to be sold on elsewhere, to save a few quid on tariffs. quite quickly, you will see goods from ireland being redirected north and within a couple of weeks, goods from the whole of europe seeking to avoid the tariffs in the rest of the uk will go through northern ireland. not so fast, says the government. there will be intelligence to catch smugglers out. but keeping the border open isn't without risk. emma vardy, bbc news. the government has downgraded its prediction for economic growth this year, but says it expects borrowing to be lower. the details were announced in the chancellor's spring statement to mp5. philip hammond said the predictions depended on an orderly brexit, and he highlighted what he called the "cloud of uncertainty
hanging over the economy". he also made a number of announcements about housing, police funding and free sanitary products in english schools. our economics correspondent dharshini david reports. at this cookery class in manchester, cuts to some public services have been hard to swallow. they are keenly aware of the way budgets have sometimes failed to keep up with the cost of living over the last decade. we are not getting for what we are paying, really. the policing, the fire, we are not getting them services enough for what we are paying, really, unfortunately. there's issues where you feel like you could do with a pcso just to make sure that things are in charge. in holidays in particular you've got kids that are rioting, dealing drugs. parents having to provide papers, pens and stuff like that to help the schools to teach the kids, that's just not good. today, the chancellor revealed he has the funds to ease austerity. at the time of the autumn budget, this is how much the chancellor thought he would have to borrow to fund spending over the next few
years, but look at the yellow bars. today, the government expects to borrow less, thanks to higher tax receipts and wages and lower interest payments on government debt. so that means the chancellor has over £26 billion he could spend just over the next couple of years, to restore public services without running into trouble. but not yet. our economy is fundamentally robust but the uncertainty i hoped we would lift last night still hangs over it. we cannot allow that to continue. it is damaging our economy and it is damaging our standing and reputation in the world. it is here at the treasury that the chancellor decides how much to spend. so is he withholding funds to make a political point? perhaps not. previously, he was expecting the economy to expand by 1.6% this year, solid but not spectacular.
now, with europe slowing down and brexit uncertainty, he is expecting growth ofjust1.2% and that will be the weakest rate since the financial crisis. the survey evidence suggests we are not getting the new year off to a particularly strong start. that partly reflects the fact the global economy is doing less well than it looked like a few months ago and there may also be some additional effects from the uncertainty created by brexit. that forecast assumes a swift deal. otherwise, growth could be weaker, and the chancellor has implied he may need that money to support the economy. but the shadow chancellor disagrees. why has money been found for tax cuts for big corporations, while vital public services have been starved of funding? austerity was never a necessity. it was always a political choice. these budding chefs will be pleased that an extra £100 million is being earmarked to fight knife crime. if brexit plans are settled
by the summer, the chancellor says he will be able to assign more cash, what he is calling a deal dividend. dharshini david, bbc news. and you can get more on the spring statement and all the main measures on the bbc news website. and our political editor laura kuenssberg joins me again. what do you think of the prime minister coming back next week with this deal and edging victory out of it. deny it has been a complete mess and a bad night for the government. there is the faint possibility that by ending up in the situation where the prime minister will say to mps it is either a long delay or ideal,
that could focus some brexiteer mines and start to move more of them and the northern ireland to dup, whose vote she needs, towards backing her deal. but that is not in the bag. there are a million different reasons why that might not happen, including what the european union says when she goes to brussels next week after the vote. so it is possible that this disaster tonight makes it easier for her. possible that this disaster tonight makes it easierfor her. but possible that this disaster tonight makes it easier for her. but the question is at what cost? tonight we have seen the traditional rules of parliament and politics notjust being torn up, but being thrown out of the window. if you are in the cabinet you have to vote the same way as the prime minister. that has gone now, discipline in this government has gone now. one senior tory said to me this government is breaking down. it may well be that in the next couple of weeks theresa
may gets this deal through by the skin of her teeth, but beyond that can she still be at the top of a functioning government in future? that is an open question and plenty of her critics are willing to answer it in the negative. let's move on to some of the day's other news. let's move on to some of the day's other news. earlier this evening, president trump issued an emergency order to ground all boeing 737 max 8 aircraft, following the crash of an ethiopian airlines jet last weekend. the federal aviation administration had previously resisted, while dozens of countries banned the aircraft from flying over their airspace. boeing has said it will suspend the entire fleet of 737 max planes. the crash on sunday claimed the lives of 157 people. live to our north america correspondent nick bryant in washington. the day began in washington with the trump administration comfortable with its decision to allow these
boeing 737 max aircraft to keep on flying, but as the day went on more evidence came from the crash site in ethiopia which showed that the plane that went down there on sunday and another boeing that crashed off the coast of indonesia last october behaved in a very similar way. that prompted this urgent rethink. that prompted this urgent rethink. today the crash site in ethiopia became a place of multinational mourning. passengers and crew from 35 countries were killed when the plane plunged into this field on sunday, just six minutes after take—off. north america had been one of the few places the boeing 737 max was still allowed to fly. the aviation authority here had resisted demands to follow safety regulators in more than a0 countries by grounding the plane. but tonight at the white house, donald trump announced a change of mind. we are going to be issuing an emergency order of prohibition to ground all flights of the 737 max
8, and the 737 max 9. the safety of the american people, and all people, is our paramount concern. another boeing 737 max crashed in similar circumstances last october off indonesia, killing 189 people. canada said there was new evidence suggesting a possible link between the two crashes as it announced its own grounding. this is new information that we received and analysed this morning, it comes from validated satellite tracking data suggesting a possible — although unproven — similarity in the flight profile of the lion air aircraft. it was after analysing new evidence collected at the crash site today that the us federal aviation administration made its decision. it found very close similarities between the two crashes. the groundings have affected david and his daughter maddie, who were supposed to fly
from new york to edinburgh tonight. i think that it's definitely a smart decision to ground the planes. it's better safe than sorry when it comes to changes in the air. but i do think they should notify their customers when their flights are being cancelled, and helping them reschedule for another time. as this 737 max landed in the american capital tonight, boeing said it continues to have full confidence in the safety of the plane, but out of an abundance of caution is recommending a temporary grounding of the entire global feat. nick bryant, bbc news, washington. our north america business correspondent samira hussain is at boeing headquarters in chicago. what is the latest from boeing there? it is hard to imagine a worse position for a playmaker to find itself in. its most importantjet has been grounded everywhere and so now the pressure is on boeing to find a fix and to do it fast.
already some airlines are talking about compensation and with almost 5000 outstanding orders for these planes, this crisis is quickly becoming a costly one. just this week the playmaker has lost some £20 billion in market value. while there are questions for boeing, there are also questions for american regulators. historically this country has been at the forefront of aviation safety, but in this insta nce aviation safety, but in this instance the leading authority was playing catch up. thank you very much from chicago and boeing headquarters. a school has collapsed in nigeria's biggest city, lagos, killing at least eight people, some of them children. rescuers have spent the day searching the remains of the structure for survivors. dozens of people have been pulled alive from the rubble, but it's thought many more remain trapped inside. local officials say the building was unsafe and an order to demolish
it had been ignored. the long—awaited decision on whether former soldiers will be prosecuted for their part in the bloody sunday shootings, over half a century ago, will be announced tomorrow. on that day injanuary1972, paratroopers shot dead 13 innocent civilians on a civil rights march in londonderry. the bbc‘s peter taylor was in derry on bloody sunday, and his report includes an exclusive interview with colonel derek wilford, commander of the paratroopers on that day. in the archive of the troubles, the defining images of bloody sunday mark a tragic watershed in the annals of the conflict. what happened was coloured by two factors. how the army proposed to deal with rioters, and the instrument chosen to do it, pa ratroopers under the command of colonel derek wilford. we were betrayed, and bringing charges against the soldiers is part of that betrayal.
just three weeks before bloody sunday, general robert ford met with city traders, who demanded the army crack down on rioters who were destroying their business. ford then wrote a chilling memo, in which he said it might be necessary to shoot selected ringleaders once warnings had been given. the plan was to arrest the rioters as they retreated. the paras were aware that ira gunmen might be in the flats. i first interviewed colonel wilford over 25 years ago. he was disgusted by the passivity of his predecessors. the soldiers just stood there like aunt sallies. i had actually said in public that my soldiers were not going to act as aunt sallies, ever. the scene was set. colonel wilford was interviewed when the operation was over and 13 people lay dead. the facts are, we were fired at first and we retaliated in the only way which was possible to us.
in 1992, i asked colonel wilford if he believed the victims were all innocent. oh, no, that would be to accept that my soldiers were wrong. it was done as an act, if you like, of war. but you don't sign your death warrant by taking part in a demonstration. some people do. almost 20 years after that interview, lord saville's epic inquiry into bloody sunday concluded that all the victims were innocent and posed no threat to the soldiers. one of the victims was 17—year—old michael kelly, shot dead at a barricade near where the museum of free derry now stands. his brotherjohn is its educational officer. soldier f fired a shot and michael was hit in the stomach, and the bullet embedded in his spine. do you think that soldier f will be prosecuted ? i do believe so because the evidence is so strong against him. couldn't a line just be
drawn under bloody sunday and all the other incidents, as they happened so long ago, so we can move on? you can't draw a line under murder. justice has to be seen to be done, no matter how long ago it is. derek wilford is now 85 and has parkinson's disease. it has ended his work as an artist. do you now accept what lord saville said? no, i don't. because i was there. yes, well, we thought, in fact, that we were under attack and we will actually remain convinced of that, actually, until the end of our days. should your soldiers be prosecuted? no, they should not. because i don't believe, in fact, that they were capable of that sort of indiscriminate shooting and killing. will you say sorry to the families who lost their loved ones that day?