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this is bbc news. i‘m clive myrie. the headlines at 11. forjune the ”50th, theresa may asked forjune the 30th, i think the french are saying well theresa may asks the european union for another extension to the brexit process. 0k, june the 30th then, because that isa 0k, june the 30th then, because that is a pretty hard cut off. that would be a one off extension. it seems to be, you need to make up i want us to be able to leave your mind then what are you doing. the european union in a smooth are you taking a deal, are you out and orderly way as soon as possible. with no deal? 0r and that is what i‘m are you taking a deal, are you out with no deal? or are you changing going to be working for. your mind entirely? but of course, but the decision rests with the other eu leaders there are all of those other voices and there are reports of divisons saying they don't want no deal, they among over the ideal duration of any extension. don't want the uk crashing outcome a few months, or closer to a year. and the germans in their... i believe the consensus just quickly, there is one that we here in brussels and across do know as we are coming to the the european union will be to give the united kingdom a little bit more draft conclusion. yes we do, which time for the cross party talks that appears to be, i would be surprised are happening to conclude. if it doesn't stick. this is talking also, this hour... about the uk not taking part in it‘s being described as a "significant milestone in humid decisions that are to do with the understanding of the universe." long—term future of the eu. so that this, the first ever 27 of the meeting, if the uk stays image, of a black hole. in from of the 27 still need to discuss 27 issues, particularly think about that long—term budgets, the next 70 or budgets, they're
going to have to start talking about the choice of the next president of the choice of the next president of the commission, they might start to push the uk out of the room there and say you sit on the sidelines, just like is happening tonight. we discussed longer—term issues without you. 0k. you. ok. we went to the greek summit, and we have the stamina for this. keep the coffee, christian it's good to see you. kristin fraser there, and my old micro there damien as well. in brussels. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are katy balls some from the spectator and stephen bush from the new statesman. some
it's probably good to say brexit is good for business, squabbling about, hominy copies are being sold at the minute. on the left or the right, a nyway let's minute. on the left or the right, anyway let's have a look at the newspapers now. because theresa may is in brussels awaiting to hear about our brexit extension, that's the financial times. she's been forced to abandon plans to engineer a breakthrough in parliament this week, because slow progress in talks with the labour party. those discussions are expected to continue tomorrow. the guardian's headline: ‘may defies critics with vow to stay on and see brexit deal through‘ — the paper says the prime minister is attempting to cling to power and will keep trying to push through a withdrawal agreement for as long as it takes. the i carries the same story — saying mrs may is prepared to hang on and infuriate her growing band of tory enemies — to deliver brexit. (ani)but it won't be easy for her — the daily telegraph reports that tories plan to move against the prime minister after the local elections .
funking cabinet ministers and senior tory eurosceptics have warned that she must quit next month to give her successor a fresh start. ani)and the metro brings together the top two stories of the day — brexit and the first ever image of a black hole — with ‘what brexit looks like from space‘..and ‘deal appears as far, far away as this black hole‘. a deal, brexit deal appears as far far away as the black hole. yet, obvious comparisons between black holes in the problems of her brexit. katie, we will start with the independent, going nowhere, pm could stay on until 2020 as she tries to force her brexit. she didn‘t give in and date rather as to when she was going to leave, she just said she was going to leave right? she could go on for a while. she was a little bit clearer, she said she would leave when she passed her brexit deal, so when the first stage of brexit happened. what mac winds that katie? al mike looking at the picture of the black hole, you get the impression that theresa may
2022. 2050, theresa may prime minister. the new millennium. ultimately she is technically safe from the challenge until december. because that‘s when tori brexit is tried to get rid of her the december we‘ve just had come and they failed. under the tory leadership roles, that means mps cannot try and pass a no—confidence vote in her party vote, until it‘s you know a year has passed. i think when you look at this independent cover, they‘re talking about how if there was a long extension, she will try and stay on. but it does have, as a second point in this piece, that european leaders crash over new extension of her britain. as we just heard from brussels, it‘s not yet clear what theresa may is going to be offered. because although the noise is earlier in the day that we are heading to a long extension, the french president emmanuel background appears to have a different idea on this, and thinks that theresa may asked forjune 30, and maybe they should go to something closer to that. so do think depending what extension, you could get is really
in the hands of eu leaders. that‘s going to change the temperature and what happens in terms of theresa may‘s fete. what happens in terms of theresa may's fete. sure, i mean stephen, pa rt may's fete. sure, i mean stephen, part of the problem that you‘ve got differing ideas over in brussels as to how long an extension should be, it‘s because the french and mr is making it clear that we could just bea making it clear that we could just be a big old pain over the next year. blocking all kinds of things, further integration, messing up how they go about trying to get a new leader of the commission and so on and for. also that means that could mean in the fig and extension was a year until the end of this year, that could mean problems as far as the european elections are concerned, and all of that kind of stuff. yeah, the fear is that not made or what comes after, what happens of theresa may steps down and is replaced by a hard brexiteer, like borisjohnson, that's a thing that european diplomats, whenever they talk to people that say they are really worried about. and macron is saying maybe we should have a
shorter extension, but actual think that the crucial thing about what he's saying is not what he's saying right now, but to compare that to what he was saying yesterday or we could go. at the start of the week people around him are making the noise that he might shunt us out of the eu on friday, now he's saying oh well, maybe it should be until may the 7th, maybe it should be tojune the 7th, maybe it should be tojune the 30th. i think the really important thing is just, the 30th. i think the really important thing isjust, it's like david cameron right? who make a lot of noise about how it's been to be big and strong and tough before the european summit, and then in the end, in those alone meetings, he would come back to the herd, i think that's probably what we're seeing right now is him coming back to the herd, and we may end up where we thought we would be, which is along the extension of some kind. because they know that it's only a long extension that's going to unblock the politics here, one way or the other. so you're thinking is the end of the year? december? it's too close to be making a prediction. the expectation is long. along, onto the ft than stephen, labour comments
pushed, she‘s not in the commons, she‘s in brussels trying to sort of, you know, get an extension. yeah, this is about, well not though quite collapse of these talks between theresa may and the conservatives, and labour ministers about a potential brexit deal. the idea is that this might lead to some votes on whatever they could couple together, the problem of course is forjeremy corbyn to be able to sign up forjeremy corbyn to be able to sign up the labour party to it, it would probably have to be very soft, and would almost certainly have to have some kind of second referendum attached. the difficulty for theresa may of courses if she agrees to a very soft brexit, or to a second referendum, then she has problems at herend. so in referendum, then she has problems at her end. so in many ways, the negotiations i magnets trying to get too close to one another. they can't move, which means we've got this continual state of deadlock. katie, given the sort of mentality of these two characters, theresa may and jeremy corbyn, was there any likely to be, and there still could be in agreement, but the odds on an
agreement, but the odds on an agreement were always stacked against that happening, weren‘t they really? and is there a suggestion perhaps that theresa may was using the appearance of these meetings to sort of you know, beat the europeans within brussels and say look, we are trying to do something, give me an extension. i think you're latter point, every day basically for the past week or so, we‘ve had downing street spokesman send a statement to the lobby telling them it, giving them an update on reports. constructive. any time it's constructive, talks are going on, they are continuing. we will still talk tomorrow. and then you occasionally get labour response, perhaps a video clip if we‘re lucky, saying that it‘s a disaster. you get a sense that the members want to give the impression that they are close to something, that they are trying new things, so they can get this extension. ideally, for theresa may, the option of a shorter extension, or at least a long extension, or at least a long extension that the uk can ask early
if they come to a deal. i think when it comes to theresa may and jeremy corbyn specs it positions, the other thing is, i don‘t think their personal brexit positions are actually that far apart. i think they both, at some different electoral reasons except the freedom of movement should end as part of the brexit deal. and i think that both of them are less interested in free trade deals. then lots of brexiters are, or if you look at these conservative mps who pay for brexit. i think if you look at their style of politics there never really going to be the type to make that cross party movement. and it does feel very late in the day to get anything significant there. sure, stephen, at what point does the government say these talks aren‘t going to work, is it basically when she‘s got the extension? going to work, is it basically when she's got the extension?|j going to work, is it basically when she's got the extension? i think it's an interesting birthing rates? neither can political make the offer they need to to pass it, because it would split their own party. potentially fatally. but neither of them really want to be the one who walks away because this talk is,
these talks are a disaster. so it's ha rd these talks are a disaster. so it's hard to work out at which point they will collapse, because it's never going to be in anyone's interest to going to be in anyone's interest to go to the emperor has got no close. they couldn‘t work it out, so... i they couldn‘t work it out, so... , there was a chance to reenter a year—long extension, and in about three months‘ time, we are still getting these updates saying talks are ongoing. they are not moving. they are constructive. they are constructive talks. we are still talking. all right ok. guardian, similar thing critics vowed to stay on nc brexit deal through. what is that going to do stephen to the likes of the blood of mark francois? i think it's probably going to go through the roof, whatever happens. the really interesting thing is because she said in this vague way, i will leave when this stage of brexit is over, which was basically the kind of how long is a piece of string? there are lots of people who have basically said they will back it if they think they will get rid of her. the fear of courses she's
going to dig in. the problem they have though, as katie says, under the rules of the conservative party leadership election, they cannot get rid of her until december. now people in the cabinet will say things to you like oh well, better class of who will get rid of her. we can get rid of her like that, and they clapped their hands together. but of course the one thing theresa may is good at is digging in. and surviving. and i think this in many ways is people coming to terms with the reality that she is not going to go. the sight of december 2019, when her immunity expires. sure. the daily telegraph, katie, may given a month after eu showdown, tories plan to move against p.m. after elections, as she begs year for help. i mean the suggestion from this paper is that you know, she‘s going to be off. i don‘t think that the daily telegraph and this paper clash that much, because on one side their conservative sources saying that theresa may wants to stay on and plans to, and we are some pathetic
to her. there‘s also the case that people start... but the number is much whiter thanjust people start... but the number is much whiter than just the european research group, or euro sceptics, thinks that she needs to go. i think there is a risk that she enters this long extension, yes, she cannot be forced, she has to make a decision, but there is a risk, that those mps and ministers who felt as though they couldn‘t force or outcome or even they couldn‘t force or outcome or even call for her to go, because it was appointed the brexit negotiations, can now say well, we are not where we wanted to be, but also nothings really changing now, we have a year. why don‘t we have that contest, why do we have that debate about where we want to go next? i do think that you can force the prime minister to go, even a step in one, even if they cannot actually have that confidence vote, because you can have the chief whip, you can have the 1922 committee of backbenchers speak, and you can also have a cabinet walk—out. now i‘m not sure if everyone‘s right in that
headspace at the moment, cabinet ministers are marking to do anonymous briefings to sunday papers. and news magazines. don't give me that, it‘s notjust the grubby sunday papers that are involved in this. you can argue that. what i mean is that you know the talks of the cabinet cool perhaps on a sunday, and then you get to the meeting, start of the weekend, that doesn‘t ta ke start of the weekend, that doesn‘t take place. i still take it as a sign that they might start to get there, if you enter an extension, because lots of the excuses people have had for not doing it go away. sure, all right. stephen the front page of the metro, what brexit looks like from space. a lot of allusions to brexit and black holes, and you know, going in there and disappearing, and whatever. eu dictates britain‘s future, that‘s the fundamental point here isn‘t to? that you know, the idea of taking back control, that‘s what the vote was all about three years ago, two and half years ago, whenever it was, i‘ve forgotten it such a long time ago. at the point is, we don‘t have
control now do we? that's the nature of the article 50 process. it's designed for understandable reasons, you know in the rows of any club, the process of leaving is not hazy. it's like when you try to cancel your gym membership. the difficulty is... your gym membership. the difficulty is. . . that's your gym membership. the difficulty is... that's probably a lot more difficult. the difficulty is that it was something quick and painless, it has not been quick and it feels a lot like this black hole, this huge monster we can't comprehend, and not even likeness —— light can escape. the side black hole katie, that‘s quite amazing. that is a picture of a black hole. that‘s weird. isn‘t it? it's really weird. and also just ona it? it's really weird. and also just on a calm is something we‘ve heard a lot about. theories from einstein and onwards, this is the first ever photo one, and i think it‘s interesting, if you look at it, it does seem to correspond quite
closely to what people thought it would look like. artist impressions apparently. it looks very much the same. stephen your the black hole experts, aren‘t you? your into this? it's really exciting, isn't it? i mean this is to scale. so that metal bit of the doughnut, the whole of out bit of the doughnut, the whole of our resource system could fit in that middle guy. it's a huge advanced or science. it's establishing a lot of things we thought about how space time worked, we now know that they do. you know, it's the kind of testament to what we can do when we work together, when we research, when we innovate, when we research, when we innovate, when we research, when we innovate, when we aren't spending all of our time talking about stuff. about theresa may, whatever, it'sjust really exciting. you know, we've successfully ta ken really exciting. you know, we've successfully taken this picture of a black hole. you really are a nerd, aren‘t you? black hole. you really are a nerd, aren't you? yeah. i've talked to three scientists tonight who are over the moon about this, it‘s a cripple to see. you two are going to be back in about a0 minutes to look at more of the stories behind the headlines, i suspect brexit and
black holes will rear their heads again. but that‘s it, things to katie and steven, i‘ll be back with the latest from brussels in a few minutes. good evening. we saw a lot of sunshine across the uk on tuesday. the skies have remained clear for many as the sun has set, and now the temperatures are falling away — actually pretty sharply in some western regions. always a bit more cloud through the course of tuesday across northern scotland, tied in with a weather system. that will linger through the night. there‘ll be some patchy cloud across eastern counties of england, but towards the west, with the clearer skies, here, we are expecting the frost to be perhaps quite sharp. temperatures as low as minus three degrees in some rural spots. northern scotland protected, seeing lows of around four, 5 degrees. so it will be a chilly start to thursday, but there should be a lot of sunshine around from the get—go. northern scotland always
with a bit more cloud. that looks like it could break up a little bit as the day goes on. if the sun comes out, though, that could help to trigger some quite sharp showers across northern and eastern scotland. still
quite a lot of cloud for north sea coasts coming in on the easterly breeze, and a cloudier picture for northern ireland. always chilly along that north sea coast as well, highs ofjust eight or 9 degrees. for friday, the high—pressure is still with us, so it‘s a case of spot the difference. but there are some differences to pick out. more cloud across england and wales. a much grayer day, and therefore a chillier feeling day despite a milder start. highs in some spots only eight or 9 degrees, and that‘s even in land. along the north sea coasts, well, six or seven potentially. best of the sunshine for the northeast of scotland on friday. highs of 11, maybe 12 degrees here. high still with us for the weekend, still feeding in chilly air on an easterly breeze. we see a front trying to get involved in the story, pushing in from the atlantic, but the high puts the brakes on that quite significantly.
just perhaps on sunday, some rain for northern ireland and the far southwest of england. the front, though, will mean we see the
wind picking up quite notably across the western side of the uk through the weekend. but still, we‘re very much dominated by dry weather. it‘s a pretty chilly story, and the best of our sunshine will be found on saturday. however, keep the faith because it does look like by the time we get into the following week and start getting closer to the easter weekend, we‘ll start to pull some milder air in from further south in europe and our temperatures should recover — perhaps even to the high teens by friday.