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this is bbc news, i'm shaun ley. the headlines at 8pm. church bells have rang across france following the fire at notre dame cathedral in paris on monday. new images emerge from inside the cathedral. firefighters say they arrived at the scene within ten minutes of the first emergency call. translation: i went up into the towers, it was only when i got to the top that i saw how daunting it was. at some point we heard anna norma's noise, —— enormous which must have been the spire falling down. police say 340 people have been arrested since climate change protests began in london three days ago. people who view porn websites will have to prove they're eighteen, from july — in new measures hoped to make the internet safer for children. and the royal opera house loses in the court of appeal —
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over the life—changing hearing damage caused to a viola player. this evening, church bells have been ringing out across france to mark the moment when notre dame cathedral caught fire. already attention is turning to its restoration. the french government says there will be an international competition to find the best ideas for rebuilding the iconic cathedral. fire fighters have denied suggestions that they were late to the scene — saying the first teams arrived within ten minutes of the first emergency calls. our correspondent lucy williamson reports from paris. notre dame today is a cathedral divided by the fire.
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marks of tragedy surrounded by tranquillity. this video, given exclusively to the bbc by a member of the police, shows stained glass intact under a jagged hole where the roof used to be. polished pews lined up before piles of charred timber. that so much survived is perhaps extraordinary. the local mayor said there was a moment that night when fire crews told president macron they were not sure if notre dame could be saved. it is a very difficult site to attack. they couldn't get there, up there, with their scales. the normal scales are not large, they are not tall enough will stop so they had to use other devices. they had to get into the building, they had to check the building was safe. they went in there and they did not have 100% certainty that they would be able to get down and get out. this is what firefighters faced that night. today, one of them spoke publicly for the first time.
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translation: i went up into the towers. it was only when i got to the top that i saw how daunting it was. it was extremely hot and we had to keep moving back, moving back. it was spreading very quickly. at some point, we heard an enormous noise which must have been the spire falling down. investigators have so far interviewed around 30 people. early reports suggest the fire began at the base of the cathedral‘s central spire, where a major restoration project was starting. the main contractor involved in the restoration work told us they were the only ones in the building on monday and had been putting up scaffolding, not doing anything involving heat or sparks. they left at 5:50pm, he told us, turned off the electricity, and handed the keys to the caretaker. along the banks of the seine today, artists came to record a rare change in the city landscape. the prime minister has announced an international competition for architects to design
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the cathedral‘s new spire. at churches across france, tonight, bells rang out in solidarity with notre—dame. the sound of continuity after a crisis, that lets all of paris know they're not alone. lucy williamson, bbc news, paris. heather newton is ahead mason, heather, thank you very much for being with us on bbc news this evening. when you look at what you see, what immediately leaps out at you, what makes you hopeful, or perhaps pessimistic about this project? well, both hopeful, because i think the devastation could have been far more total, it could've been far more total, it could've been a lot worse, but i think there's a lot of trepidation in that the task ahead
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is enormous. and really i don't think anyone who's in a position to estimate the cost or anything just yet, because it will have to be a very prolonged period of investigation to have a look at it, almost done by stone, and assess the condition of the building. help us if you can to get an idea of what sort of damage done to stonework by fire, because you know, as an ignorant outsider, i kind of think well, it stone, it's going to be pretty durable in the heat, but clearly that's not the case. no, not in these sort of temperatures that would've been achieved there. it's notjust the stone itself, i mean looking back at the sort of restoration works that we re the sort of restoration works that were done in the 19th century, there isa were done in the 19th century, there is a very high possibility that they used a lot of metal cramps and dowels, so the metal will heat up and expand far more rapidly than the stone. so you'll get internal damage caused by that kind of thing. and
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really it's a very long period of assessment that will be required, so people can really understand the true scope of the damage. we've heard about the huge amount of money that's already been pledged both by business people, and by ordinary currency ends and people throughout the world who care about this building. is it a question of money for materials, is it a question of the skills, ijust for materials, is it a question of the skills, i just wonder for materials, is it a question of the skills, ijust wonder how many people who have the kind of skills that's going to be needed who are available to kind of go out to notre dame and work on a project like this. you will make i don't think they'll have any problem in recruiting skills, i mean there are enormous numbers of people who are enormous numbers of people who are highly skilled. in every discipline that one would need for a project like that. you are going to need project managers, you will need engineers, you will need architects, and money consultants, you know, as well as very skilled craftsman. it's not just stone from its timber, well as very skilled craftsman. it's notjust stone from its timber, its class, it's metalwork. and textiles
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as well. as yet, we have no idea about the damage that was caused to the interior of the cathedral. and there'll be losses there that will have to be replaced. or at least conserved, so that things that have been damaged can be put back into use, and will be a record of what's happened. are there techniques, materials, things that modern mason work can do that your forbearers backin work can do that your forbearers back in the 12th—century were unable to, because one of my favourite books at school was the spire by william goldie, which that tremendous talent, almost unbelievable skill of the masons of those days, but they were doing all of it by hand, and with all the risks and terrible accidents that often happened. now what are the advantages you have come as a modern mason, undertaking a restoration that's going to be incredible challenging? i think one of the principal things is being able to understand the building, there are lots of techniques that can be
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employed to examine the building, that are not invasive. so we can better understand what's been going on. the modern maces to mac masons use their brains their eyes on their hands to do their work, which if all of those things are functioning, then you've got what it takes. yes, we have lots of lifting equipment, and things like that, which assist, and there are modern sources that we can process more rapidly, but the fundamental principles of the task haven't changed, you start with a big block of stone, and you end up with a stone that's cut to a certain size and shape, and that will always be the case. you make it sound so simple, i'm sure it's anything but. heather, five years, is that a bit optimistic? it could be. i think it's impossible to say. it's a great way of galvanising people and focusing them. it may take a little longer before the project is complete. i'm thinking. well i'm
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sure it will be worth it, whatever time it takes. heather newton, heather conservation in canterbury, thank you so much forjoining us on bbc news this evening. let me bring you some breaking news that's coming to us in the half hour at the bbc. it's reports that several people have been killed in a bus crash on the portuguese island of madeira. ambulances are currently at the scene, it's a tourist bus that appears to have come off the road, and overturned. of course, madeira is well—known as a very popular holiday destination, often for a lot of elderly travellers, find it a good island to visit, of its temperate climate. and it's good facilities. we have very limited details at the moment. the local mayor is being reported by the portuguese news industry. mayor philippe asus are saying their fatalities, information on the number of victims is still not
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certain, but that is in madeira this evening. in the last hour or so, these reports are coming, and as soon as we have any more information, both on the casualties, the number for tallies, and information, both on the casualties, the numberfor tallies, and people are the numberfor tallies, and people a re interested, the numberfor tallies, and people are interested, and of course the nationality of those involved, we will bring it to you here on the bbc news. two britons have died in a buggy accident on the greek island of sa ntorini. a man and a woman, said to be in their 20s, fell into a zoo—metre ravine while driving on the profitis ilias mountain on sunday, according to reports. the peak is the highest point on the island, which is popular with british holidaymakers. a foreign and commonwealth office spokesman said: "our staff are assisting the families of two british people who have died on the island of santorini and are in contact with the greek authorities." for a third day in a row, climate change activists from extinction rebellion have been protesting in central london. some protestors glued themselves to a carriage on the docklands light railway, while others blocked central london roads. so far three hundred and forty people have been arrested. tom symonds reports.
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this is normally one of the busiest bridges across the thames. extinction rebellion, a new, direct action protest group, hoped to take control of this and other key london locations for up to two weeks. well, today, the police moved in. we have an emergency here and i don't think we are causing any harm. using powers designed to balance the right to protest with the need to reduce disruption. the police are taking this extremely slowly, not least to keep the temperature under control. but also because they are starting to run out of police cells. we are here because humanity is facing extinction and ecocide. i'm here as a peaceful protester. the government must take action. their demands? the declaration of a climate emergency, radical cuts to carbon emissions. "we are sorry for the disruption", they say.
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the fact of the matter is, we have tried things that are less disruptive for over 30 years. we have been petitioning, marching, writing letters, nothing has been done. but they also brought a busy rail line to a halt, the docklands light railway, using unusual tactics. cue angry commuters and this from london's mayor. i am worried about protesters that are targeting public transport because i am trying to encourage more and more londoners to use public transport because it is good for the environment. another target was oxford circus, used by 23 bus routes, as well as black cabs. it is getting about, people can protest, but for two weeks, i think it is too long. scotland yard appears intent on making sure that does not happen but then everyone sitting here has said they are prepared to be arrested. they believe we should all be more worried about this issue and they say their protests will continue.
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well the tv presenter and naturalist, chris packham, went to oxford circus to support the protest. he explained why — amid, as you'll hear, a lot of background noise. i wanted to show solidarity with these people who are peacefully drawing to the world's attention that we have a grave issue at hand, that of climate change, overpopulation, we know politicians are not listening or not acting on the issues broadly or urgently enough. we are all collectively concerned that unless we do something about it now, and pretty quickly, we will not have a sustainable planet in the very near future. it is very, very serious. to be quite honest with you, we've got to the point now where most of us believe our politicians are acting negligently, and this gives us real concern. that was chris packham there, and we will find out how this story and many others are covered are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10:1i0pm this evening in the papers.
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our guests joining me tonight are laura hughes, political correspondent for the financial times, and deputy political editor of the daily express, sam lister. so dojoin us for so do join us for that at 10:1i0pm and 11:30 so do join us for that at 10:a0pm and 11:30 p:m.. the private mental healthcare group, the priory, has been fined three hundred thousand pounds following the death of a fourteen—year—old girl in its care. amy el—keria killed herself while a patient at a psychiatric hospital in east sussex in 2012. its the largest fine of its kind imposed on a private health company. our health editor, hugh pym, reports. ijust remember her belly laugh, you know, how she loved her sisters. tania's happier memories of her daughter amy, but she won't ever forget the day amy died in the care of a private hospital. all i think about is when i met her in that hospital that night, and her laying there, pale, and i expected her to say "hi mum, i'm 0k", and she didn't. amy had a known history
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of suicide attempts. she was referred by the nhs to this mental health facility, part of the priory group. but she was found dead in her room in november 2012. the company was taken to court, facing a health and safety prosecution, and pleaded guilty. passing sentence here at lewes crown court the judge, mrjustice dingemans, said the risks associated with patients like amy had not been considered, and that staff had not been suitably trained to deal with emergencies requiring resuscitation. he noted that priory health care had worked hard to improve service since amy's death. he said any penalty he imposed could never reflect the loss suffered by amy's family. amy's mother was highly critical of the company. public‘s eye have been finally been opened to what the priory stand for — profit over safety. today is an historic day
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in our fight for justice for amy. the priory group said it extended sincere apologies to the family, and would carry out a review of all services for young people. it's not about money for me. it's about stopping these children and that these vulnerable people dying unnecessarily. amy's death was avoidable. in the words of her mother, amy was alone, far from home and her family when she died. she felt she owed it to her daughter to fight for justice. hugh pym, bbc news, lewes crown court. a man who was mentally unwell killed his wife and then himself hours after the couple were turned away from an a&e department in suffolk where they pleaded for help. an inquest into the deaths of 32—year—old thomas kemp and his 31—year—old wife katherine heard the mental health crisis team at ipswich hospital did not offer mr kemp a bed in august last year, despite previously being diagnosed as suffering from anxiety and paranoid delusions. the coroner said the deaths
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could have been prevented. the headlines on bbc news. it's exactly 17 minutes past eight p:m.. bells and cathedrals across france have run this evening 48 hours after the notre dame fire. police say 300 and 40 people have been arrested since climate change protests began in london three days ago. people who view pornography websites will have to prove they're 18, from july — in new measures hoped to make the internet safer for children. let me bring you more now on that story we mentioned at the top of this hour, that's the tourist bus crash on the island of madeira.
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within the last hour, we begin to get reports into the newsroom that something had happened. an accident, it's now being reported by the news agency, which is quoting rtp, portuguese broadcaster, that nine people are believed to have been killed in the crash. it involved a tourist bus, which overturned in the town of cano, forgive me for my pronunciation on that, it spelled c—a—n——co, we have one quote so far from the mayor of the time, that says there have been for tallies, information on the number of victims is not certain. quoting the portuguese news broadcaster, saying that nine for tallies, we don't know about injuries, and we don't yet know anything about the nationality of those who were involved, whether they were madeira inns, or whether they were madeira inns, or whether they were madeira inns, or whether they were tourists, visiting the island, and if so, what country. once we have more on that, we will bring it to you here on bbc news. from july, people
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who try to view pornography online will have to verify that they are over eighteen years old. checks will include submitting id, such as credit cards, or passports. but as our media editor, amol rajan, reports there could be ways round the new checks. like so many industries, porn has shifted online in recent years, dragging with it concerns about who is using it. these changes are significant, but is there any prospect of them actually working? drew? hello mate, lovely to meet you. good to see you. drew wylie uses pornography. at 23, he belongs to a generation for whom porn has always been instantly accessible. everyone can basically now has access that from a very, very early age, so i think that the level of exposure is much more extreme. do you think that is dangerous? i mean, do you think a lot of young people are seeing stuff online they shouldn't have? i do. it's dangerous, because young people are learning about sex through pornography, which isn't — i don't feel that's how young people should be learning about sex. from july, users will have to prove their age using a variety
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of methods, such as with a credit card or passport, or with an age verification card bought over the counter. the aim is to block or find sites that don't comply, but this will prove tough in practise. a generation ago, if you wanted to buy some porn, you probably had to go into a newsagent, reach up to the top shelf and encounter some pretty awkward questions. what the internet specialises in is removing that human friction and replacing scarcity with abundance. but as ever with the web, there needs to be a balance between the gains and freedoms and convenience and the risk of harming vulnerable people. that is what these reforms are aimed at. no wonder children's charities, who worry about the exposure of young minds, consider this new law an important step. what this piece of age verification works to do is to try and prevent the accidental exposure of young people to this content, because we are particularly worried about young people seeing this when they are not expecting to see it. amid the impulse to project children, many adults wanting to view legal pornography will be terrified about data leaks in the future.
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this academic at sunderland university has two main concerns. young people won't be put off looking at porn, they willjust go into different spaces to find it, so they'll be moving away from the spaces we have understood to be legal, into possibly more illegal spaces. secondly, we have no idea what might happen to people's details, once it's entered into that database. there are grounds for thinking these changes may not work — at least immediately. younger internet users are often the most technically astute, able to circumvent blocks, and many sites in breach of the new rules will be based oversea, making them harder to reach and punish. amol rajan, bbc news. inflation was unchanged last month, at 1.9 per economists had expected a slight increase. lower food prices offset higher prices for clothes and petrol. the liberal democrats have announced their candidates for the european elections. the pro—european party will campaign for another
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referendum on eu membership, in the hope of persuading voters to back remain. the party leader, sir vince cable, has called for anti—brexit parties to work together, saying it would be better if they were ‘fighting under the same banner‘. the court of appeal has rejected a challenge by the royal opera house, against a previous ruling in favour of a viola player, whose hearing was damaged during a rehearsal. christopher goldscheider was sitting in front of the brass section of the orchestra. our legal correspondent, clive coleman, sent this update from outside the royal opera house in london for years there's been protection from noise regulations for workers, but there's been a sort of myth that somehow they don't apply in live music and entertainment venues. this ruling blows that myth away, it put venues like this on the same footing as perhaps a factory floor, and it ensures that employers, whether they are employing orchestra players, or roadies, or rock gigs, have to take all reasonably practical steps
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to ensure that they are not damage through noise, that means dynamic assessments, risk assessments, anticipating, as happened in this case, a spike in the noise levels, and if they don't do that, then they can get sued. i don't think this ruling means that music is going to be turned off, but i do think it means it will be played a lot more quietly at times. that was clive coleman, the indian airline, jet airways, is temporarily ceasing operations, after failing to secure a 46—million pound emergency financial bail out. around 20,000 jobs are affected. negotiations are continuing with the airline's banks, and a further announcement is expected on the 10th of may. dozens of academics at uk universities have told bbc news they've been ‘harrassed' out of theirjobs and signed settlement agreements with non—disclosure clauses — to stop allegations of bullying, discrimination or sexual misconduct becoming public. figures obtained by the bbc show a total of 87—million—pounds has
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been paid out as part of the deals — victims say they are being silenced. rianna croxford reports. how do you solve a problem you can't see? nondisclosure agreements were designed to protect business secrets, but now, the bbc has found they're being misused by universities, keeping a lid on allegations of bullying, discrimination and sexual misconduct. and this academic has broken her nda. she signed one during ongoing grievances relating to her disabilities, teaching and research role, particularly following her cancer diagnosis, and she felt pressure to sign. i had no choice, absolutely no choice, because without the money, we couldn't have paid our mortgage, we couldn't have put... i mean, mine was the sole income in the family, there was nothing we could do. the university of liverpool said...
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since the bbc broke the story this morning, more than 50 people have come forward with allegations of bullying, gender and disability discrimination, and dozens of them are men. one man said he was reduced to a suicidal mess after being bullied, as signing an nda ended his career. others said whole groups of staff had been gagged for trying to whistle—blow on malpractice. when you speak out, you don't just speak out, you basically destroy your career. emma chapman thinks she has a solution. she refused to sign an nda after claiming she was sexually harassed by a man at university college london. she fought for a confidentiality waiver, meaning she can speak out. but the pain is still there. it disturbs me that he could know my address, and i had nightmares of my house being set on fire, for example. emma took her case to a tribunal, but didn't win.
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as soon as it was over, she received several of these untraceable voicemails from an unknown caller in the middle of the night. so this goes on... police never found the caller. ucl is believed to be the only university to have taken action to end the use of ndas for misconduct cases. it hopes other universities will follow suit. reenter crocs for, bbc news. let me ta ke reenter crocs for, bbc news. let me take you back to the bbc news breaking news this hour. on the island of madeira, it's happening cano co., island of madeira, it's happening cano co. , which island of madeira, it's happening cano co., which is a small town the southeast of the capital, we understand that a tourist bus overturned on a road there, there are varying reports of casualties, but we do know there have been for tallies. that's been confirmed by the mayor of chemical, fully pay for sue's eye, who has told local journalist that there were a number for tallies. i should one you that
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we cannot verify these figures, but the range, all of these are figures quoted by the news agency who has been courting local news broadcasters from nine for tallies to 28. we understand there were 50 people aboard the tourist coach, we don't yet know whether these coach carried madeira inns or tourists, if so, what nationalities may have been involved, we will be getting more information on that, we will bring it to assumes we possibly can. to confirm, there's been an accident in madeira, from southeast from the capital, there are number of casualties, and at least nine people are reported to have died in that accident. the news agency and other media are quoting the mayor of cano and confirming that the accident has taken place. more with you in the next half—hour on that. now it's time for a look at the weather with chris fawkes hello there. today's really marked the day of change across the uk. we are seeing much more sunshine, and it's turned significantly warmer, and we've got more of that
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kind of weather to come over the next few days. this was the scene earlier on in the highlands of scotland, a glorious looking weather watcher picture, sent in by highland rose, thanks for that. now overnight tonight, we are going to see some low cloud coming back and across parts of england and scotland, particularly for eastern areas. and some fog patches around as well, some of which could turn out to be quite dense in places by dawn. temperatures overnight between around 5—9dc, so not desperately cold. thursday morning then, the low cloud with the mist and fog will burn away fairly quickly. there will be these brisk winds coming in off the north sea, keeping the east coast of scotland and england a little bit cooler and fresher. so temperatures, for example, in aberdeen, reaching a high of say 12 celsius with those onshore winds. but come away from the coast, it's going to be warm in the sunshine, with temperatures peaking at 20 in cardiff and london, and it's set to get warmer than that as we head into the weekend. that's your weather.
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hello this is bbc news. the headlines... church bells have rang across france following the fire at notre dame cathedral in paris on monday. new images emerge from inside the cathedral — firefighters say they arrived at the scene within ten minutes of the first emergency call. i went up into the towers,. it was only when i got to the top
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that i saw how daunting it was. at some point, we heard an enormous noise. which must‘ve been the spire falling down. police say 340 people have been arrested since climate change protests began in london three days ago. people who view pawn websites will have to prove people who view porn websites will have to prove they're18, from july — in new measures hoped to make the internet safer for children. and the royal opera house loses in the court of appeal — over the life—changing hearing damage caused to a viola player. some breaking news in the last hour: it's being reported that at lease 28 people have died in a bus accident on the portuguese island of madeira. ambulances are currently at the scene, where a tourist bus appears to have come of the road and overturned. the number of casualties,
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and their nationality, is not yet known. we believe nine people may have died in the accident. some are reporting as many as 28. i can't tell you reports again —— i can tell you, there saying that the majority of those who are on board the bus which our men were thought to be germans and we have mark coming up and we have to speak a correspondent in portugal. sport now, and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre. good evening to you. we have an incredible game to tell you about. one place to start — in the champions league encounter at the etihad. manchester city against tottenham — with a place in the and hwta a start we've had...
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3—2 the score in the quarter final second leg. the first four, were the fastest goals in the history of the competition. raheem sterling gave city the lead. sun then scored two quickfire goals — then bernardo silva equalised. all this inside 11 minutes. then sterling struck at the far post for the lead.around 15 mins or so remaining in the first half. what a game is turning out to be. but city have lost all five of their matches against english opposition in the champions league. there's live commentary of manchester city v tottenham on bbc radio five live right now — former england captain alan shearer is the match summariser this evening. you can also follow game via the live text commentary on the bbc sport website. it's a momentous day for manchester united women —
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they're on the verge of being promoted to the womens super league. the top division in women's football. a win over aston villa this evening will send them up. they got off to quick start with millie turner opening the scoring in just the sixth minute. and they're now 5—0 up with around 20 minutes to go. two other matches taking place in — both in the womens super league. everton ladies 1—3 birmingahm city womens. annessa kaagman gave everton an early lead, hayley ladd pulled birmingham level, with ellen white putting them 2—1 up, she got their third too. four goals for the season for her now. everton have just one win in their last eight matches — and sit second from bottom. yeovil town 0—1 reading. yeovil, the league's bottom side, have to win to avoid relegation, following their ten point deduction over financial difficulties. anthonyjoshua's next big fight is in doubt. he's scheduled to take onjarrell miller in new york — on the 1st ofjune. but promoter eddie hearn says miller
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has returned an "adverse sample" to anti—doping authorities. miller's team say they're waiting for more information, and both fighters continue to train for the match up. ade adedoyin has more. and miller are going to be here in six weeks' time, but he will wake up to the fact that it's the biggest night of his career and they met not happen, following confirmation that the address fighting for a banned substance, irony of all this is that he actually accused anthonyjoshua of using performance enhancement drugs when they had the fight was announced and here he is now trying to clear his name. in terms of timeline of events he meets with the athletic commission to provide any information as to how the substance got into a system, if they do not licence and he will be pulled, and it's a costly mistake not only in career terms but financially, he was
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do to earn over $5 million for this contest, if he is pulled, he loses the cap with six weeks to find a replacement, joseph parker, a 90 beat last year, has said that he is willing able and ready to step up to the challenge should happen. the barbados—born pace bowler — jofra archer — has missed out on england's preliminary squad for the cricket world cup. but he has been offered the chance to force his way into the side. he's been given his first call up to the one—day squad. for a couple of the warm up games. yesterday i had the call and told him he had been included in the squad for the first time, he had a chat and he was pleased and i went out, so little piece of information 20/20 is not the same as other cricket, different things but the skills that he brings it, they are broadly speaking transferable to the 50 over game. that's all the sport for now. i'll have more for you in
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sportsday at half past ten. well let's get more on the news that the french government is inviting architects from across the world to submit allison what do you know about what happened on madeira this evening. allison, can you hear me? allison roberts in portugal, can you hear me? no, sorry we can't get her but while we look at the pictures showing as the accident and you see the bus there on its side, you see it was quite late at the time the accident happened in late afternoon early evening, it's in the sound —— it is southeast of madeira, we understand the bus overturned and between nine and 20 people reported to have died in the crash. not to be 50 people on board, we don't know
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who is involved we know that majority were german. well let's get more on the news that the french government is inviting architects from across the world to submit plans to renovate notre—dame following monday's fire. president macron wants the project to be completed in five years in time for when france next hosts the olympics. at the heart of the project is a new spire to replace the one that was destroyed. but questions are being asked about whether the timetable is realistic. and whether the new spire look should replicate the old, or follow the french tradition of innovation along the lines of the louvre pyramid or the pompidou centre. with me is marie billon, who's the uk correspondent for rtl. also i'm joined from paris by the architect, manuelle gautrand. welcome, let me ask you first, what do you think is the biggest challenge of this project as an architect? i think the biggest
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challenge is of course, an architectural one, and that's because the notre dame is a wonderful modern he meant, and he exercise will be to add something —— monument, that's something that's innovative, so we do not have to mimic the old speier, i think we just have to keep challenging the innovation and the texture, and the new spire has to give a sort of contemporary notion and create a strong drink with the old building, we have to mix old and new. at the challenge, there is a lot of innovation is someone told me yesterday, i may have the wrong cathedral, i think strasburg had steeled to replace part of the roof after it was damaged, and people accepted the change provided they saw a now familiar around them. yes, in fact, the spire which is not existing any more, but which was
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existing any more, but which was existing two days ago, was not the first one, it's not the spire belt eight centuries ago. the spire belt in 1860, eight centuries ago. the spire belt in1860, and at eight centuries ago. the spire belt in 1860, and at this time he wanted to create a very innovative spire himself. so, they didn't want to mimic him which was built in the 13th century, so we have to do the same, he as innovative as before. and i think like a father luther, if you look at the louvre museum, you have many fish appear mid—sentence, nobody really likes it and they were against it at the time. some still don't. but now it's a monument that eve ryo ne don't. but now it's a monument that everyone loves. it's one of the
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icons of paris. and i think that we could do the same here if we do a mix which is delicate between old and new, we are really challenging structure and innovation in all fields. we could create a new icon for paris. marie i want to bring her m, for paris. marie i want to bring her in, the paris —— president has five yea rs of in, the paris —— president has five years of a timetable, may not have escaped that some people notice that they don't seem interesting to spend money but we will let that pass, every cloud has a silver lining this is clearly a tremendous opportunity, do you think the president should be setting a deadline at this way?|j think setting a deadline at this way?” think it's a politician timeline and it's obvious because the expert has access the database so we don't know how long it'll take, there is many months or yearsjust for how long it'll take, there is many months or years just for the cathedral to settle in the loss to dry so we actually don't know when the work can be started and how we
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can say it to be five years, of grace that time i get that political timeframe because in five years there the olympics many people coming to paris they want to see you notre dame, and it'll be in the middle of the is re—enacted that might be in the middle of his so he would be inaugurating his notre dame, so maybe it's not far from his mind that you can't not think about it in that way. you lived not far from notre dame not so long ago, what are your emotions when you heard the news? well, i was in the streetsjust listening heard the news? well, i was in the streets just listening to the radio wasn't sure i wanted to go back on the and when i heard about the spire wedding —— went down i i was very emotional i was on my way to the tube. for example i still have a picture of it in my bedroom today, andl picture of it in my bedroom today, and i (seven years ago, so it is still very much something emotional
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for me, and i feel strongly about the fact that we had the shell of notre dame. the parisians, we don't own it any more for some time because of the tourists, all the cues for it, meaning you can't enter it as you wish, you have to stand in a queue for many hours, and you want to go to mass, but if you want to go inside you have to wait so the outside is still standing.” inside you have to wait so the outside is still standing. i want to ask you both a question, in regards to the spire how do you feel about the idea of new versus old? we have to rememberwe the idea of new versus old? we have to remember we are not the end of history this is middle of history, so we have to basically put our way of doing things today for generations to come, we should not just mimic what happened because we can't but yes we do want new technology and do as good, but it's important to remember when you for example here in london you see the
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tower of london or the wall, you see different stones from the different eras, andl different stones from the different eras, and i love seeing that. i think it's important to remember we are just a dot in the middle of history that hopefully has a long time to come. so you're saying let it record itself and not hide the thank you very much one last word to 90 well in paris. as an architect, is it sort of a challenge you take on enthusiastically if you are asked was that when you take with some trepidation because presumably everybody has an opinion on notre dame. yes, i think i would like to come back to the question of it day they may, because of that date. i think i mean, if i give an answer as a parisien, ithink think i mean, if i give an answer as a parisien, i think it's important for politicians to give guidelines to give dreams to give us some goals
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so that be inhabitants can really act and do their best and i think we have two of the dream together. i think it's possible, somebody had said yesterday that you can do it, soi said yesterday that you can do it, so i think giving us ambitious goals is and expect big but it's visible. thank you both very much forjoining us this evening to talk about notre dame and how hope is rising from the ashes. let's return to the main story about the tourist bus crash on the island of madeira. let's talk to allison in portugalfor madeira. let's talk to allison in portugal for us madeira. let's talk to allison in portugalfor us now, madeira. let's talk to allison in portugal for us now, what madeira. let's talk to allison in portugalfor us now, what more do madeira. let's talk to allison in portugal for us now, what more do we know about the circumstances of the scratch, what happened and when it happened, and who may have been injured and killed? the local mayor
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who is speaking about an hour and 15 minutes ago told local media that he believes there are at least 28 people confirmed it dead and let nine and 17 london, that's not directly confirmed though, that as i say that's the local mayor talking to local media. there were at least 50 people travelling in the bus, and 20 had been taken in hospital, with various injuries. again, we don't have information on the nationality of the people either, charlie and the bus or indeed the victims are injured. but local newspapers have said that a large part of the tourists were of german nationality, again unconfirmed. it's still early. we are seeing photographs taken from the scene, although the bus is on its side can people be shocked at the high rate of fatalities given
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proportionately to the number of people who were in that coach, i guess difficulty is it's fairly kind ofa guess difficulty is it's fairly kind of a hilly territory. it appears to bea time of a hilly territory. it appears to be a time close though to the capital. it's very hilly terrain and ravines so a lot of the time coaches will travel along the narrow roads with steep drops to one side and that certainly seems to have been the case going by what we have seen in the pictures and videos as you say, the bus came off the road and is now lying on its side. and local again, the local mayor said people who were killed were projected from the bus, so again, very second—hand reports, but it's clear from looking at the picture is that it was a very nasty accident and that would have been behind the reason why there are many victims. indeed and as you
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said, the pictures are still unclear so we'll get more details of christ because it's an island that usually popular with tourism especially elderly ones. correct millions of tourists across europe come here, as he isa tourists across europe come here, as he is a particularly older ones, although the fact is that people of all ages go there and not least because it's very popular for walking along those ravines and the interior of the island, and again, many of those visitors are british by germans, those of the two largest national groups, but again people from all over europe come here. building up of course to the fire festival taking place this year at the beginning of may and it'll be very and popular time as they prepare for the annual celebration, terrible piece of news. allison are you expecting further updates from the authorities on this? certainly we should have, i spoke a few minutes ago to people at the
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hospital, where those injured were taken and hospital, where those injured were ta ken and they hospital, where those injured were taken and they did not have a communication operation up and running but they said they would shortly so we should have more information soon but also the president of portugal announced he will be flying to madera to the scene, and perhaps the hospital as well as soon as possible and heal flying down in an air forcejet because it is distant from the name in portugal. allison roberts in lisbon, thank you for the update. we have seen pictures of the terrible scene tonight, and it's in a little town. the crash appears to have happened or what looks like a built upa have happened or what looks like a built up a residential area we had a statement from the foreign office tonight, not really telling us much but just saying they seek information from the authorities and they stand ready to support british people that may require assistance of course it looks like from local media, that it seems the majority of those in the coach were probably
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driving but there is no confirmation. the figures allison is quoting i should stress that coming from the mayor of the town and local media, nothing has been officially confirmed yet i'm sure we'll get some form of confirmation from the regional government, and the next couple of hours, but the reports locally suggest 11 nine and 17 when men were killed that will take you up men were killed that will take you up to 28 and that's a number of fatalities on a bus with 50 people, that's a high proportion and as suggested, i sadly seen some of those who died may had been thrown from the bus at the point of impact we will bring you more on this breaking news as he got it in the quest of the evening here on bbc news. nine minutes until nine stop even small amounts of red and processed meat — such as an extra rasher of bacon a day — can increase the risk of bowel cancer. that's according to the latest study led by oxford university and funded by cancer research uk.
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the link between these meats and bowel cancer is not new but the impact of the amount eaten is. nhs guidelines recommend no more than three rashers of bacon a day — but this research shows that even a small quantity of processed or red meat can increase the risk of bowel cancer. our correspondent, sima kotecha reports from birmingham: there's nothing quite like a bit of bacon and sausage... or is there? medium breakfast, bacon well done... at this cafe, for some diners, it's a must, especially at breakfast. i enjoy it, i don't see anything wrong with it. i'll probably eat bacon and sausage four or five times a week. and it's the ideal start to the day. i'm not one for cereal, but i feel i'm quite healthy, active, at the age of 46. but now, this — further evidence suggests red and processed meat such as salami, bacon and hot dogs can be harmful if eaten regularly, even in small quantities. the six—year study showed that for those who ate the equivalent of one rasher of bacon
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per day, four out of 1,000 developed bowel cancer. and for those that ate three rashers of bacon per day, five out of 1,000 developed the same cancer. the advice is, the less you eat, the lower the risk. this doesn't mean that you have to completely give up bacon or go vegetarian if you don't want to, but simple ways that you can cut down on the amount that you are eating can all make a big difference in your risk of bowel cancer. it is thought the chemicals associated with processing meat could increase the risk of cancer, and high—temperature cooking can also create carcinogenic chemicals. here, we have pork, beef and lamb, and there are suggestions that the protein in meat like this, which gives it its red colour, can damage the gut when it is broken down. but this butcher says
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there are always two sides to every story. good things in red meat, all the essential vitamins and minerals that you cannot get anywhere else, so a good, balanced diet. my grandfather used to swear by it and he lived a long and healthy life. processed and red meat is part of many people's daily diet. whether today's findings influences what's on their plate in the days and weeks to come remains to be seen. but the advice from experts — don't eat too much and if you do, cut back. now — from astonishingly intimate film of elephants in the wild, to uncovering the rate of deforestation — a new bbc documentary series hopes to tell the story of our planet as you've never seen it before. ‘earth from space' uses cameras hundreds of miles up in the atmosphere, to explore some of the most remote habitats. let's take a look.
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from space, the view of our planet is breathtaking. satellites orbiting the earth can now look down on it in absolutely extraordinary detail. using cameras on the ground, in the air, and in space, we can tell the story of life on earth from a brand—new perspective. at a time when the earth's surface is changing faster than at any
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point in human history, we can see just what impact we are having. and tonight, you can watch ‘earth from space‘ — that‘s in a few moments on bbc one. and catch up on the iplayer. before the weather, let‘s bring you updates on what‘s turning into a big story for us this evening. that‘s the tourist bus crash on the island of madeira, it took place early evening, these are the first pictures we got from the scene, as you see, it was evening when the accident happened in the last few hours, the last update we have from authorities was after seven o‘clock ourtime authorities was after seven o‘clock our time this evening, when the mayor of that time you are seeing here confirmed there had been fatalities, looks like the bus overturned at the tourist bus carrying 50 people you see it behind the shop up in the front to the
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right of the frame, i see people gathered around you can see some passengers on board they were 50 people on the bus most believed to be german but that is not confirmed yet. some of them were catapulted out of the bus when it overturned and that seems to be one reason why the fatality rate is so high am sorry to say reports from local media say 28 people had died in that crash and he said that she see someone injured they are thankfully alive. at 28 out of 50 is a very high number of casualties, 11 nine and 17 when then, unconfirmed figures but southeast of the capital of madeira, like itself, it‘s extremely mountainous and on the island itself and the roads are precipitous. i have to say, it‘s not uncommon for accidents but this is clearly a very serious one, hugely popular island for a popular
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tourist, the florida festival takes place there which is a two —— spectacular advantage, but is popular throughout the year because of its temperate climate and good facilities for tourists, it seems that the majority of not all of those on board were german nationals, we are expected to get more details and the president of the portugal is on his way to madeira tonight in a military plane and hopes to visit the scene at the crash and talk to survivors in hospital. survivors in hospital. now it‘s time for a look at the weather with chris fawkes . hello there, today may be a change across the uk we see more sunshine and it turned warmer and we have more of that kind of weather to come in the next few days, this is a scene early on in the highlands of scotla nd scene early on in the highlands of scotland glorious looking weather watcher picture, and in by highland rose thanks for that. overnight tonight, low cloud coming back again, practically for eastern areas
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and fog patches around, some of which could be bent in places by dawn, temperature overnight between five and nine south is, not desperately call it, thursday morning low cloud and make standby brands away quickly, they will be these brisk winds coming in off the north sea, keeping east coast of scotla nd north sea, keeping east coast of scotland a little bit cooler and fresher, set temperatures for example in aberdeen reaching a high of 12 celsius with those onshore winds that come away from the coast of be wanting sunshine with temperatures peaking at 20 in cardiff and london and had to get warmer than that as we head into the weekend and that‘s her letter.
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hello, i‘m ros atkins, this is outside source. there‘s been a bus crash on the portuguese island of medeira. the bus plunged off a road. portugal‘s national news agency says at least 28 people are dead. but there‘s been no official word from the police. a former president of peru has taken his own life. alan garcia was being investigated as part of a massive bribery probe involving a brazilian company. we‘ll have the latest from sao paulo. sudan‘s deposed president omar al—bashir is now in solitary confinement a maximum security prison — but the protesters are still on the streets. they are demanding a civilian government. you can see all the people in the distance here, who are coming forward , distance here, who are coming forward, and perhaps if you look across, you will be able to make out
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