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this is bbc news — these are the latest headlines in the uk and around the world: ukraine rejects a demand from russia to give up mariupol — saying there is "no question of any surrender". the eu's foreign affairs chief says russia is acting completely outside the rules of war. what is happening in mariupol is a massive war crime. destroying everything, bombarding and killing everybody. firefighters rescue people from the rubble, after russia shells a shopping centre in kyiv, killing eight people.
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hello and welcome if you're watching in the uk or around the world. the besieged ukrainian city of mariupol has rejected a russian ultimatum to surrender. moscow had given residents until 5am local time to give up. people in the port city have endured weeks of russian bombardment, with no power or running water. around 300,000 people are believed to be trapped there. in the past couple of hours, ukraine has said that eight humanitarian corridors have been agreed for people to leave beseiged towns and cities, but mariupol isn't among them. in the capital, kyiv, rescuers are working through the rubble of a shopping mall that was targeted overnight. at least eight people are known to have been killed. the ten—storey building was hit by a powerful blast that left a crater several metres wide. all of its south side has been destroyed, as well as a fitness
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centre in its car park. just to warn you, this report from jon donnison contains images you may find distressing. amid the ruins in mariupol, they're burying the dead in the street — bodies bundled up by the roadside. "i hope there will be some sort of reburial and this is just temporary," he says. "but the military told us to put the body somewhere in the cold, and the only cold place now are our basements, but there are people in the basement, so we bury them here." ukraine has rejected a deadline by russia for residents to surrender and leave, orface military tribunals. but with 90% of residential buildings damaged or destroyed, tens of thousands of people are now homeless. translation: everything | is destroyed, you can see it yourself, there is no untouched apartment left. everything is broken. we don't know how to live on. in basement bomb shelters,
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and with no powerfor weeks, families gather and do what they can to stay warm. translation: we have been in a basement for 11 days. - this is the 25th day of war. we've been counting every one of them. we hope for the best, to live as humans. the apartment has been broken, everything is broken. where can we go from the basement? we're cooking at a fire, for now we have some food and firewood. in a week, we will have nothing, no food at all. what should we do? and in mariupol, nowhere is really safe, with ukraine accusing russia of deliberately targeting places where people are sheltering. translation: in besieged mariupol, the russian air force dropped - a bomb on an art school. people were using it as a hiding place from bombardments, there there were about 400 people, peaceful people, mostly women and children and elderly people.
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they are now under rubble. for now, we don't know how many people have survived, but we do know we will shoot down that pilot who dropped that bomb, like we have already shot down 100 other mass murderers. elsewhere, overnight in the capital, kyiv, russia shelling of a shopping mall and residential district is said to have killed several people, with emergency services desperately trying to help people trapped under the rubble. by first light, the full force of the blast could be seen. with such destruction, it's hard to imagine the number of people killed won't rise. and this is just a few miles from the centre of the capital. but despite the bombardment,
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ukrainians are continuing to show defiance. these are protesters taking on the russian military in kherson, the only major city russia has managed to capture. and all the while, the number of refugees continues to grow. the un says a quarter of ukraine's population, 10 million people, have been forced to leave their homes. more than 3.5 million of them fleeing for the safety of neighbouring countries. jon donnison, bbc news. 0ur correspondent, jonah fisher in lviv, gave his assesment of the consequences of mariupol refusing russia's deadline to surrender. the consequence for mariupol and the several hundred thousand people living there is probably they are going to experience more of the same grim conditions they've had for the last couple of weeks.
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the city is entirely surrounded by russian troops. we have heard russian troops had been moving in some of the districts of mariupol itself. there is constant fighting being reported. no power, no clean water, many of the people there have been in the basements for a very long time. some people have made it out in the last few days, but they are bringing with them really grim stories of what is happening there at the moment, bodies on the street, verd hard to get food. it's miserable. i think it was probably inevitable ukraine would reject this offer to surrender from the russians. that inevitability you mention is partly to do with a lack of trust that the russians would keep their word, isn't it? it is. why should the people of mariupol,
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who have been under attack by the russians for the last few weeks, believe they are going to get safe passage out of the city if they agree to surrender? why should the soldiers who have been fighting to defend mariupol believe they won't simply be detained orjust shot if they do surrender to the russians. all of those things are part of the consideration from the ukrainian side as to why they rejected this. then of course there is the bigger picture that mariupol is a hugely significant strategic point for the ukrainians and the russians. if mariupol falls, it effectively links crimea to the parts of eastern ukraine that russian—backed forces have held for a long time. it would complete what we call a land bridge we call a land bridge from crimea to russia. you can see why ukraine rejected almost outright within a very short
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period of time russian attempts to make mariupol surrender. on a symbolic level as well, if we turn to kyiv. we have just been seeing reports with images of utter destruction there, with a shopping mall being bombed overnight. this is just the latest in what has been continued attacks there, hasn't it? astonishing pictures from kyiv this morning of the shopping mall not that far from the centre of kyiv which appears to have been struck with a very large missile overnight. notjust the mall devastated, but a huge area around. i think this is really russia's way of reminding kyiv that it is very much in range. though the central part of kyiv has largely been spared so far the full onslaught. what has happened to mariupol is a real possibility in terms of what might end up happening
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to kyiv if kyiv�*s resistance persists and if the russians really do decide to direct their fill do decide to direct their full artillery fire and missiles onto kyiv itself to try to effectively bomb ukraine's capital into submission. i am joined by roman skliarov — who left his home and life in mariupol on february 2a and is staying just outside kyiv. he left his grandmother, who refuses to leave her home. thank you forjoining us on what must be a very worrying time for you. i understand you left on the first day of the russian invasion. what were the circumstances around you leaving and can remember what was going through your mind at the time? i was going through your mind at the time? , , , . ., time? i remember this very clear. i was asleep — time? i remember this very clear. i was asleep at _ time? i remember this very clear. i was asleep at six _ time? i remember this very clear. i was asleep at six in _ time? i remember this very clear. i was asleep at six in the _ time? i remember this very clear. i was asleep at six in the morning, i | was asleep at six in the morning, i get a call from my friend and she told me to wake up, there was a war.
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i didn't believe it was through. i wake up and i open the window, first i hear explosions. i rememberthe wake up and i open the window, first i hear explosions. i remember the it was shot somewhere far away from the city, but it was something real. 0f city, but it was something real. of course, i immediately decided we need to move. but i spent three hours confessing my family to move, they try to stay. my grandma, is still there, she rejected my offer to leave. unfortunately, i could save only my mum and my brother. after three hours we drive by car and went to kyiv. but a few days later we moved a little bit further
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from kyiv to be more safe. hesse later we moved a little bit further from kyiv to be more safe. have you been able to — from kyiv to be more safe. have you been able to find _ from kyiv to be more safe. have you been able to find out _ from kyiv to be more safe. have you been able to find out how _ from kyiv to be more safe. have you been able to find out how your- been able to find out how your grandmother is? tiara been able to find out how your grandmother is?— been able to find out how your grandmother is? two days ago, i received a _ grandmother is? two days ago, i received a phone _ grandmother is? two days ago, i received a phone call— grandmother is? two days ago, i received a phone call from - grandmother is? two days ago, i received a phone call from one i grandmother is? two days ago, i i received a phone call from one man who was the neighbour of my grandmother. he left mariupol also two days ago, and he said before he left he saw her, she is still alive. it was great news for us. so much has changed _ it was great news for us. so much has changed since _ it was great news for us. so much has changed since you _ it was great news for us. so much has changed since you left - it was great news for us. so much has changed since you left your. has changed since you left your hometown. how difficult has it been seen the news and images coming out of mariupol? it is seen the news and images coming out of mammal?— of mariupol? it is heartbreaking. when i saw _ of mariupol? it is heartbreaking. when i saw two _ of mariupol? it is heartbreaking. when i saw two days _ of mariupol? it is heartbreaking. when i saw two days ago - of mariupol? it is heartbreaking. when i saw two days ago a - of mariupol? it is heartbreaking. i when i saw two days ago a picture of mariupol? it is heartbreaking. - when i saw two days ago a picture of my house, it was totally burnt, destroyed. we were all shocked,
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especially my mum. it's hard, of course. ., ., , ., , , course. you can really get a sense of how difficult _ course. you can really get a sense of how difficult this _ course. you can really get a sense of how difficult this is _ course. you can really get a sense of how difficult this is for - course. you can really get a sense of how difficult this is for you. - of how difficult this is for you. your grandmother has managed so far, you've had the update that she was ok a couple of days ago. what do you 0k a couple of days ago. what do you hopein 0k a couple of days ago. what do you hope in terms of getting in touch with her? is there any way you can get messages to her? at with her? is there any way you can get messages to her?— with her? is there any way you can get messages to her? at this moment it is impossible _ get messages to her? at this moment it is impossible because _ get messages to her? at this moment it is impossible because there - get messages to her? at this moment it is impossible because there is - get messages to her? at this moment it is impossible because there is no i it is impossible because there is no electricity or mobile service. we try every day to make connection, but it is impossible. i tried some friends who go to the city, may be some croatian volunteers, but everybody tried to escape, nobody try to move inside. we hope after
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all this finishes, we will all come the safe there. i all this finishes, we will all come the safe there.— all this finishes, we will all come the safe there. i hope you are able to net the safe there. i hope you are able to get updates _ the safe there. i hope you are able to get updates from _ the safe there. i hope you are able to get updates from your- the safe there. i hope you are able - to get updates from your grandmother soon somehow. i really appreciate you taking the time to speak to us and i really hope you get good news from mariupol soon.— from mariupol soon. thank you so much. from mariupol soon. thank you so much- moore _ from mariupol soon. thank you so much. moore reports— from mariupol soon. thank you so much. moore reports this - from mariupol soon. thank you so| much. moore reports this morning from military _ much. moore reports this morning from military intelligence - much. moore reports this morning from military intelligence sources| from military intelligence sources that the russian advance is getting bogged down around 20 kilometres outside of kyiv. let's look further at rush hour's strategy in ukraine and the ukrainian response. —— russia's strategy. former head of uk joint forces command, general richard barrons, joins me now. we have been hearing in the past few hours about the fact that mariupol is not surrendering to rush a's
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ultimatum. what is likely to happen now? —— russia's ultimatum. brute ultimatum. what is likely to happen now? -- russia's ultimatum. we must assume the — now? -- russia's ultimatum. we must assume the most _ now? -- russia's ultimatum. we must assume the most likely _ now? -- russia's ultimatum. we must assume the most likely consequence l assume the most likely consequence in mariupol is russia completes its destruction under the occupation of the rubble of mariupol, because that is how it connects russia to crimea. this is a strategically important place for russia. as you have seen they are prepared to do this at the cost of total destruction of the city and huge damage and loss to the civilian population. we city and huge damage and loss to the civilian population.— civilian population. we have been heafina civilian population. we have been hearing either _ civilian population. we have been hearing either that _ civilian population. we have been hearing either that russia - civilian population. we have been hearing either that russia has - hearing either that russia has vastly overestimated its capability. but it is difficult to know what sources to rely on. so what is the most accurate picture we have of what russian advances are like and
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what russian advances are like and what they have capacity to continue to do? i what they have capacity to continue to do? ~ ., to do? i think we need to distinguish _ to do? i think we need to distinguish very - to do? i think we need to distinguish very carefully| to do? i think we need to - distinguish very carefully about what has happened in the last month orso what has happened in the last month or so and what could happen next. what has happened in the last month orso what has happened in the last month or so is that russian military forces have broadly struggled in three ways. the fundamental must appreciation of what is going on in ukraine was quite easily and skilfully dealt with by the ukrainian military. there was then a switch to a much heavier set of forces, which have proved to be not very well trained, not very well led, that have huge logistical challenges. they have really struggled to get packages of force into places of position where they want to fight, where is the ukrainian military has done very well. they first think they have not managed to do is control the air where they need to go. i think that is getting stronger. so far, the
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russian military machine has performed in a way that people like me simply would not have expected. it has been pretty poor, but ruthless. however, we have to recognise just how much military force russia can apply to ukraine. we are seeing them moving people and equipment from as far away as the pacific. we are seeing them moving missionaries. we are seeing them talking about keeping this year's cycle of conscripts on. we know from syria and many other places, that russians are likely to double down and simply apply more force for longer, more ruthlessly, untilthe fuel they have achieved whichever objectives they have set themselves. we have some reports from the russian news agency, interfax, where we are hearing a russian—backed separatists with that in eastern
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ukraine has said it would take more than a week to take mariupol. what is your thought on that? they think thatis is your thought on that? they think that is a realistic assessment of the picture? given we have heard of this morning how many people are there without food, water and electricity. there without food, water and electricity-— there without food, water and electrici . ., electricity. the battle for mariupol is 'ust electricity. the battle for mariupol isjust going _ electricity. the battle for mariupol isjust going to — electricity. the battle for mariupol isjust going to be _ electricity. the battle for mariupol isjust going to be hard _ electricity. the battle for mariupol isjust going to be hard and - isjust going to be hard and ruthless. the russians can continue to shell it to keep people in their basements and to kill people and to kill the ukrainian military, but eventually they are going to have too entered the city to claim it. then they will encounter the stiff resistance. we need to recognise that even when the russians announced they have taken mariupol, they are still going to be targeted by the ukrainian military and still resisted by the park population for topless is at best an occupation by sheer brute force, and those things
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often proved to be hard work and often proved to be hard work and often untenable. brute often proved to be hard work and often untenable.— often proved to be hard work and often untenable. we heard from an anal st often untenable. we heard from an analyst elliott _ often untenable. we heard from an analyst elliott that _ often untenable. we heard from an analyst elliott that he _ often untenable. we heard from an analyst elliott that he doesn't - analyst elliott that he doesn't think the russian forces will be able to take year. —— analyst earlier. do you agree with that assessment?— earlier. do you agree with that assessment? ~ . . , ., assessment? what we have seen and the last few — assessment? what we have seen and the last few weeks _ assessment? what we have seen and the last few weeks as _ assessment? what we have seen and the last few weeks as russian - the last few weeks as russian forces, generally a battalion strength, supported by a lack of firepower on the fringes of kyiv. the ukrainian military have dealt with that very efficiently. however, evenif with that very efficiently. however, even if the russians assemble massive firepower, and i think they will, they will still struggle to battle their way into kyiv. kyiv is a city three times the size of manchester. it is beyond them to occupy. it is not beyond them to make it an intolerable place to live
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in. the vast majority of the over three million people who fled ukraine have gone into poland and our correspondent danjohnson in krakow train station explains where the incoming people are heading to. many of them are going on to other polish cities or indeed to other european countries, the next train to leave from here will head to berlin. there have been many trains going in that direction, taking ukrainian families on to try to relieve the pressure on the accommodation here in a city like krakow. the numbers in the last few days have been a little bit lower. things do feel a bit calmer and a little bit more manageable, but still the accommodation here in the city is running out and there are questions about where people will be housed next. let's have a chat with darya, one of the volunteers here at the station. you're ukrainian yourself. but you've been you've been helping out with people arriving here. yeah, i work here and we give people a temporary placements with their families, and we're dealing right now with the big problem that we are running out of places and people are coming every day.
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and right now we are giving places around krakow in the region and we are trying to find places for everyone. how difficult is that getting? where are you having to send people to? we have to send them to small cities and small towns. sometimes it's in the mountains. yeah, and people are reluctant to go, sometimes to move further from krakow from the polish border. yeah, and people are reluctant to go, sometimes to move further from krakow from the polish border? yeah, sometimes it's very hard for them to move. people come here. they are very shocked. they have no idea what are they going to do with their lives. and we will do all we can to help them. the numbers have been incredible. it's been relentless for the last three weeks, 2.1 million, i think, now from ukraine. how has it been the last few days and what what do you see in the days ahead? well, right now we have easier time with the amount of people that are coming because the first weeks it was just a disaster. we had like thousands of people coming every day.
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but right now i think that they're going maybe further in europe, like they moved to germany, to other countries, and it's a little bit easier, but still not much places. how well do you think the whole situation is being managed? i think everything we can do, we do that. we do everything that we can. people get free accommodation. people are not starving. we have here food free food for them and we help with information with everything we can. 0k, thank you. we appreciate your time this morning. there is that dilemma for people really, of where to go, where they're safe, when to stop running. because although there is an encouragement to move on to try to relieve the pressure on cities like this, the natural instinct of many ukrainian families is to stay close to the border in hope that they can go home and so that they can be in touch with family. because remember, these are mostly mothers who are on their own. they've left their husbands behind. you can see people who, even though
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the pressure may have eased, they are still struggling to come to terms with what happened. they're trying to keep in touch with family, looking at their phones all the time, trying to work out what's happening in ukraine. and still, they cling on to that hope that things may improve and that they can go home one day soon. we have been hearing that more than 3 million people who fled ukraine have gone into poland. that was dan johnson from cracco train station were some of them european union ministers meet today to look at imposing tougher sanctions on russia including an oil embargo. the crisis in ukraine will dominate talks when us presidentjoe biden arrives in brussels on thursday for summits with nato's 30 members. there'll also be meetings with eu leaders, and in a g7 industrial natiions format including japan. breaking news from china, where a passengerjet is reported to have crashed.
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the boeing 737 aircraft, operated by china eastern, was on an internal flight from kunming to guangzhou with 132 people on board. first reports suggest it came down near the city of wuzhou, in guangxi province, on a mountainside and caused a fire. rescue teams have been sent to the scene. there's not yet any confirmation of any casualties. the flight was tracked by the flightradar24 website. this is their image showing the path the plane took. you can see how the tracking ends abruptlyjust over an hour after the aircraft took off. 0ur correspondent stephen mcdonelljoins me from beijing. what can you tell us? at the moment
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that our images _ what can you tell us? at the moment that our images on _ what can you tell us? at the moment that our images on chinese _ that our images on chinese television of rescue crews racing to this mountain area, hoping that they can find survivors. i'm afraid it appears that everybody on board this flight has died. in terms of where the fight was from. if people can't imagine china, it is kind of across the bottom of the country. from kunming heading east across the country, over these mountains in guanng country, over these mountains in guangxi, on the way to guangzhou. but it didn't make it all the way, it sort of crashed in the mountains half way up there. we don't know why, china has a pretty good safety record. the last crash like this was in 2010, and before then it was quite a long time there was an emergency involving a passenger plane. just imagine how many flights
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that are in china, so many people travelling by air, and it is considered pretty safe. families will be worry, especially in kunming and guangzhou, who may have had loved ones on that flight. what we are hearing on the chinese media is that all of china eastern's 737 -- 800 media is that all of china eastern's 737 —— 800 planes are being grounded now. wejust 737 —— 800 planes are being grounded now. we just checked 737 —— 800 planes are being grounded now. wejust checked before 737 —— 800 planes are being grounded now. we just checked before coming on air, and the airline does not seem to have announced that yet, but that is the report we are getting from state media. it seems the airline could be grounding all of those planes because of the worries about safety fears.
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thank you, stephen mcdonell. we will come back to that in just a moment. we can get some more details on that plane crash from our corresponding, theo leggett, here with me now. what more can you tell us about the details about what seems to have happened? we details about what seems to have ha--ened? ~ .�* details about what seems to have ha ened? ~ ., �* ~ ., ., details about what seems to have hauened? ., �* ~ ., ., happened? we don't know what has ha--ened happened? we don't know what has happened at — happened? we don't know what has happened at the _ happened? we don't know what has happened at the moment, - happened? we don't know what has happened at the moment, we - happened? we don't know what has happened at the moment, we only i happened? we don't know what has - happened at the moment, we only know this plane was coming into the final stages of the flight. it seems to have descended a very rapidly. we are seeing these pictures from chinese television which appeared to show the crash site. this plane was 737-800, show the crash site. this plane was 737—800, one of boeing? next in the living's next—generation 737 models, the third generation. —— vowing's next—generation. there are about 500 of these aircraft the 800
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derivative. it has a very good safety record. there are thousands of these things flying around all the time. there have been some issues in the past with some 50 cracks in an area where the wings attach to the plane, but those were picked up primarily on older aircraft. the aircraft that has gone down here it is only about six years old. there will be a lot of investigation as to why this has happened. this is not a 737 max, the same kind of aircraft we saw crash a few years ago in ethiopia, not the one at the centre of the fedora over faulty software that effectively deprived the pilots of control. this is the aircraft from before. it has a long track record, was flown during the 1990s and generally has a
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good safety record. no next it will be trying to find the data and voice recorder on the aircraft and try to find out what happened. i5 recorder on the aircraft and try to find out what happened.- recorder on the aircraft and try to find out what happened. is there any sense we might _ find out what happened. is there any sense we might be _ find out what happened. is there any sense we might be able _ find out what happened. is there any sense we might be able to _ find out what happened. is there any sense we might be able to hear- find out what happened. is there any sense we might be able to hear from the authorities? is there more information we can expect to hear? we will be seeing bits and pieces coming out. some websites have details on the final moments of the flight. that is where you can see this aircraft crashed after going into an apparently very steep and rapid descent. no more concrete details about what actually happened. it was a chinese airline flying in china, which means china will take charge of the investigation, and then it is up to the chinese authorities how quickly they disseminate whatever information is found. if there are concerns about the aircraft itself, in the way it is maintained or flown
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by that particular airline, you would expect action to be taken relatively quickly on order to safeguard other people travelling. this is an aircraft there are thousands of flying around the world and generally speaking it does have and generally speaking it does have a good safety record. chinese airlines do not have a bad safety record either. brute airlines do not have a bad safety record either.— airlines do not have a bad safety record either. we will get more on the details — record either. we will get more on the details of _ record either. we will get more on the details of the _ record either. we will get more on the details of the plane _ record either. we will get more on the details of the plane crash - record either. we will get more on the details of the plane crash as i record either. we will get more on | the details of the plane crash as we get it. that is breaking news we have received in the past few hours. we'll get you more on that as soon as we can. let's take it to the ukrainian president zelensky�*s latest address. as the russian army continues to encircle kyiv, the shelling continues as the people of kyiv remain steadfast to the invaders. we will come to that in a
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moment, but first let's go to president zelensky for the latest. translation:— president zelensky for the latest. translation: , ., ., ., , translation: friends, now do not be afraid. you will _ translation: friends, now do not be afraid. you will hear _ translation: friends, now do not be afraid. you will hear what _ translation: friends, now do not be afraid. you will hear what we - translation: friends, now do not be afraid. you will hear what we live - afraid. you will hear what we live with for already 25 days. the sound that became familiar to every ukrainian citizen.— that became familiar to every ukrainian citizen. that was 20 seconds. and we hear this sound four hours, four days, four weeks. this sound four hours, four days, fourweeks. 0ur this sound four hours, four days, four weeks. our people hear this all the time. and immediately, they grab their children, they help the
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elderly, they go to shelters, they go to basements, to save themselves. to survive. from russian missiles, so these sirens, something that ukrainians live with, work with, trying to sleep. treating the wounded, having babies, dying, thousands of people died in this cruel war. of russia against estate, against ukraine. i ask you to have a minute of silence in the memory of everyone who died for ukraine and ourfreedom. thank you. before everyone who died for ukraine and our freedom. thank you. before the war, our capital kyiv was called new berlin, comparing our and your
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openness, emotion, freedom in the squares, clubs and parties, now kyiv is closed. and quiet. we are awaiting the new siren, the new air raids that will force people to go to shelters stop now we cannot get together in the same way as you have got together. we cannot live as you can. we are at war. for our survival to save ourselves, against one of the largest armies in the world, against missiles, bombs, artillery, planes, helicopters that rations —— russians are going to send, they want to go notjust to ukraine, but everywhere. we are fighting the invaders that kill civilians, that
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kill people who are trying to escape, that burning residential quarters, over three weeks of this war, already 115 children have died. the most horrible war in europe since the second world war and i am convinced you have seen all of this, but what brought you to the street, the streets whose name reminds us of this uprising on the 17th ofjune, i953? this uprising on the 17th ofjune, 1953? the uprising against the dictatorship is? this is exactly what brought you there, that brings us to defend ourselves, the wish to live in peace, in a world which is free and even and what does push russia to wage war against us? the wish to break all of that, the violence, yours, ours, because we
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are you, we ukrainians are part of europe, and you will see that we wish to be with europe, we have a desire to be with europe, which we are fighting for, in the battlefield, you can win it, simply in your community, by your thoughts, your word, in your community, by your thoughts, yourword, by in your community, by your thoughts, your word, by pressure on politicians, for ukraine to finally become a part of the european union. germans, you have strength, europe, has strength, very powerful strength, betterthan has strength, very powerful strength, better than missiles. stronger than tanks, because without you, without your companies, and the banks, russia won't have money to bankroll this war. so, we wish for peace as soon as possible and you can do that. you have to defend yourself, no one has the right to destroy people and to cut up europe. we have one or politicians that that
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was not safe, when moscow would decide whether you have gas or not, and how much the gas will cost. we told you that sanctions are necessary to avoid this will, and with russian missiles hit 20 comes as from the native orders, they are shelling our nuclear power stations and everyone finally understands, it became clear, that yes, ukraine it needs to be listened to, ukraine needs to be listened to, ukraine needs to be supported, because your lives also depend on that. do not sponsor, please, do not sponsor the war machine of that country, of russia. not a single euro for the invaders, close all your ports to them, do not sell your goods, refuse russian energy providers, but pressure from russia to leave ukraine. i believe i know that this is possible, but you have to act to
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achieve the peace, each and everyone. in europe, in germany, for kyiv, for it to be called new berlin again. our kyiv, for it to be called new berlin again. 0urstreets kyiv, for it to be called new berlin again. our streets and our squares would also be as safe as ours did yours. —— to be as safe as yours. first to hear laughter and for children to smile, to play not in shelters, and for all of us to forget about the air raid sirens. as you remember about that. not a chance. for russian missiles, not a chance. for russian missiles, not a chance for russian bombs, not a chance for russian bombs, not a chance for russian bombs, not a chance for the war. act. act for peace. . glory to ukraine. studio: that was the latest address
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by the ukrainian president zelenskyy, there. joining us now is volodymyr runets who is a correspondent for ictv and has been be given a pass and a protective vest by the government so he can report from the front line. thank you so much of being with us and forjoining us. firstly, your office is in the centre of kyiv, how far our russian forces from you at this moment?— far our russian forces from you at this moment? good morning. firstly i would like to — this moment? good morning. firstly i would like to say _ this moment? good morning. firstly i would like to say that _ this moment? good morning. firstly i would like to say that the _ this moment? good morning. firstly i would like to say that the russian - would like to say that the russian forces are nowhere near kyiv, they have been pushed back, out of the areas they work trying to capture. towns nearby, and the ukrainian control, and the armies threw the army's trying to push them back, but kyiv is quite safe. just like the
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army is trying to push them back, kyiv is safe, compared to mariupol, or places like kharkiv in the east of the country. the latest development here in kyiv, the local government introduced another 35 —— 36 hour curfew. people are going into lockdown, starting at eight o'clock today. there is probably because of the missile alerts that we have been hearing overnight as well. two missiles hit a shopping centre in kyiv, inside the city, so far eight people have been confirmed dead and casualties are still being counted. ~ ,,., , ~ dead and casualties are still being counted. ~ ,,., , . ., counted. absolutely. we mentioned the curfew that _ counted. absolutely. we mentioned the curfew that is _ counted. absolutely. we mentioned the curfew that is coming _ counted. absolutely. we mentioned the curfew that is coming into - the curfew that is coming into place, 35 hours, and how are people feeling about that because you say it is in response to our attacks, forfear it is in response to our attacks, for fear of those, but have people got some essays they can be if that
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happens? got some essays they can be if that ha ens? ., , got some essays they can be if that ha ens? .,, ., , ., , happens? people from kyiv are used to sendin: happens? people from kyiv are used to spending and _ happens? people from kyiv are used to spending and sleeping _ happens? people from kyiv are used to spending and sleeping in - to spending and sleeping in basements and metro stations. —— spending time in. most placements have bomb shelters, underground parking lots, garages, things like that, everything is being used as bomb shelters and thousands of people spend every night underground. people have brought their own tents into the metro stations, they cook there, they teach their children there. all the schools are empty now, and children have to go to school online, which similar to the covid—19 times, here in ukraine, it is now underground. and as you mentioned, you mentioned feeling relatively safe in a kyiv, compared to the horrendous bombardment of mariupol, which we saw earlier. but of course, we have
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seen the horrific shelling of that shopping centre which has led to people being killed, so what sort of senseis people being killed, so what sort of sense is there amongst people in response to that? has that really shaken their sense of feeling relatively safe, compared to other places? relatively safe, compared to other laces? , , relatively safe, compared to other laces? ,q , relatively safe, compared to other laces? , ., , places? the sky is the only thing that people _ places? the sky is the only thing that people feel— places? the sky is the only thing that people feel unsafe - places? the sky is the only thing that people feel unsafe about. . places? the sky is the only thing - that people feel unsafe about. there have been lots of protests. people have been lots of protests. people have asked the nato countries to close the sky in ukraine and not getting the responses that are being —— heard from brussels and elsewhere. that is the only thing that would give comfort to the population of kyiv and cities that are being rocket shelled every now and again, practically every night. and so it sounds like from what you're saying, that that is the only solution, because we have heard about the determination of places in
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ukraine are to hold fast against russian advances, but is your sense, then, yourfear that russian advances, but is your sense, then, your fear that without the protection of the airspace, that cannot happen? the protection of the airspace, that cannot happen?— protection of the airspace, that cannot happen? the error tax the most dangerous _ cannot happen? the error tax the most dangerous ones, _ cannot happen? the error tax the most dangerous ones, you - cannot happen? the error tax the i most dangerous ones, you cannot... —— the air attacks. for civilians, they have no special gear to detect where the jets they have no special gear to detect where thejets are coming from. the other solution which president zelenskyy thing also mentioned in his address is to the european politicians and anti—aircraft systems that can be provided to ukraine, but now every day, it is not even clear how those would be delivered into the country. we have 'ust been delivered into the country. we have just been hearing _ delivered into the country. we have just been hearing the _ delivered into the country. we have just been hearing the latest - delivered into the country. we have | just been hearing the latest address from president zelenskyy and i would just want to ask you, volodmyr, how
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are people reacting to his words, how much is his presence and his voice giving comfort and reassurance to people there? {iii voice giving comfort and reassurance to people there?— to people there? of course, zelenskyy — to people there? of course, zelenskyy is _ to people there? of course, zelenskyy is inside - to people there? of course, zelenskyy is inside the - to people there? of course, - zelenskyy is inside the country, in kyiv, doing hisjob, it is a good sign for the population, to also stay calm, and it provides a sense of security, for the elderly people. these speeches, if you analyse them, he is not changing his rhetoric. they are all about the same things, but it is important for people to know that their president is there for them, know that their president is there forthem, he know that their president is there for them, he is not changing his policy, towards this war and our country. policy, towards this war and our count . �* ., ., , ., ., ., country. and volodmyr, we have had a coule of country. and volodmyr, we have had a couple of analysts, _ country. and volodmyr, we have had a couple of analysts, getting _ country. and volodmyr, we have had a couple of analysts, getting their - couple of analysts, getting their takes on this, it is a very different sort of thing, hearing from somebody who's constantly miles away, but the analysis is that they
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don't think that russia will be able to take kyiv. what is your response to take kyiv. what is your response to that? ., ., , to that? knowing the military situation and _ to that? knowing the military situation and talking - to that? knowing the military situation and talking to - to that? knowing the military situation and talking to my i to that? knowing the military - situation and talking to my sources in the ukrainian military can i do not see it happening in the foreseeable future. kyiv is a tough thing and what we have to understand is it is one thing to take a big city, as big as kyiv, and another thing is to keep it. even if the russian army couldn't take kyiv, they would not be able to hold it for a long time. —— even if they could. i don't think that the resources that they would spend on taking kyiv are worth the target. in the foreseeable future, i do not see the russian army taking kyiv or even attacking it, necessarily. find the russian army taking kyiv or even attacking it, necessarily.— attacking it, necessarily. and we are 'ust a attacking it, necessarily. and we are just a few— attacking it, necessarily. and we are just a few hours _ attacking it, necessarily. and we are just a few hours away, - attacking it, necessarily. and we - are just a few hours away, volodmyr r, from that long curfew, going from monday until wednesday morning, and what is the impact on people there?
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they have what they need, other concerns around people who are vulnerable, and have medical needs in terms of how they are going to cope with that? if in terms of how they are going to cope with that?— cope with that? if you're talking about the basics, _ cope with that? if you're talking about the basics, food - cope with that? if you're talking about the basics, food is - cope with that? if you're talking about the basics, food is there, | cope with that? if you're talking i about the basics, food is there, on the shelves in the supermarkets, is available, you can go and buy the basic food, vegetables, and what is also available. electricity�*s available in most areas in the capital, so that is no problem. there are problems with... there is the siren again, i'm sorry, another aircraft alert. pare the siren again, i'm sorry, another aircraft alert-— aircraft alert. are you safe? are ou so aircraft alert. are you safe? are you so to _ aircraft alert. are you safe? are you so to us- — aircraft alert. are you safe? are you so to us- -- _ aircraft alert. are you safe? are you so to us. -- are _ aircraft alert. are you safe? are you so to us. -- are you - aircraft alert. are you safe? are you so to us. -- are you so - aircraft alert. are you safe? are you so to us. -- are you so to i aircraft alert. are you safe? are - you so to us. -- are you so to speak you so to us. —— are you so to speak to us? you so to us. -- are you so to speak to us? �* ., �* ., , you so to us. -- are you so to speak tous? ., , . ., to us? i'm ok, don't worry. what --eole to us? i'm ok, don't worry. what people needed — to us? i'm ok, don't worry. what people needed medication, - to us? i'm ok, don't worry. whatj people needed medication, there to us? i'm ok, don't worry. what. people needed medication, there is very specific medication that is actually medication that they cannot buy over the counter, some things,
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and... most shops are closed, that is why. .. and... most shops are closed, that is wh ., ~ and... most shops are closed, that iswh ., ,, and... most shops are closed, that iswh ., ~' . and... most shops are closed, that iswh ., ,, . ., is why... thank you so much for takin: is why... thank you so much for taking the _ is why... thank you so much for taking the time _ is why... thank you so much for taking the time to _ is why. .. thank you so much for taking the time to speak- is why... thank you so much for taking the time to speak to - is why... thank you so much for. taking the time to speak to us, and do continue to stay safe. that's volodmyr runets, correspondent for itv he was talking us live from his office in kyiv. —— ictv. i'm joined by the ukrainian member of parliament, dmytro gurin, originally from mariupol. firstly, ijust want to thank you forjoining us and what is the latest in a mariupol? we are seeing horrific images recently of the destruction, the continuous bombardment so what is the latest from there?— from there? mariupol is almost completely _ from there? mariupol is almost completely destroyed. - from there? mariupol is almost completely destroyed. the - from there? mariupol is almost - completely destroyed. the bombarded city, of 20 days, they have dropped
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hundreds, literally hundreds of bombs, every 2a hours, every day. there is nothing to restore. we have to build this city from scratch. find to build this city from scratch. and with, of course, _ to build this city from scratch. and with, of course, the _ to build this city from scratch. and with, of course, the russian ultimatum, dmytro, and are you poll resisted and said, no, to surrendering, but is a sense of fear now? —— mariupol. as a fear of what the consequences of that? we now? -- mariupol. as a fear of what the consequences of that?— now? -- mariupol. as a fear of what the consequences of that? we do not fear that, the consequences of that? we do not fearthat. now. _ the consequences of that? we do not fear that, now, because _ the consequences of that? we do not fear that, now, because we _ the consequences of that? we do not fear that, now, because we do - the consequences of that? we do not fear that, now, because we do not i fear that, now, because we do not have a sense of fear in the war, the russians give their ultimatums all the time, and these ultimatums, they don't go anywhere. they don't lead us anywhere. they are saying that we. killing you, but... —— that we.
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killing you. with hundreds of thousands of people, we don't have to believe the ultimatums. it is not necessary. killing —— going to stop killing, because they kill, they won't stop. i killing, because they kill, they won't stop-— killing, because they kill, they won'tsto. ~ ., ., ., , won't stop. i know you have family and mariupol- _ won't stop. i know you have family and mariupol. have _ won't stop. i know you have family and mariupol. have you _ won't stop. i know you have family and mariupol. have you heard - won't stop. i know you have family| and mariupol. have you heard from them? how are they? i and mariupol. have you heard from them? how are they?— and mariupol. have you heard from them? how are they? i don't know. you haven't — them? how are they? i don't know. you haven't heard? _ them? how are they? i don't know. you haven't heard? no. _ them? how are they? i don't know. you haven't heard? no. that - them? how are they? i don't know. you haven't heard? no. that mustl them? how are they? i don't know. i you haven't heard? no. that must be a you haven't heard? fin. that must be a really worrying situation to be in. in terms of the communication, has there been any outlets for getting in touch with people there? there is a really big problem to communicate with anybody in it mariupol, just because the network
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is always down. and phones are low, they don't have electricity at all. and with those conditions being medieval, as before, they don't have heating, electricity, gas, water, and they are out of drinking water and they are out of drinking water and out of food now. we clearly see the goal and the idea of mariupol, thatis the goal and the idea of mariupol, that is the idea to starve them, to force diplomatic levels. it is terrible. it force diplomatic levels. it is terrible. , , terrible. it is terrible, absolutely, _ terrible. it is terrible, absolutely, we - terrible. it is terrible, absolutely, we have l terrible. it is terrible, - absolutely, we have seen the terrible. it is terrible, _ absolutely, we have seen the images from there. for you, someone who has family there, how difficult is it seeing the images of the devastated buildings and the bombardments there? i buildings and the bombardments there? ~' ., . buildings and the bombardments there? ~ ., ., , there? i know that we will rebuild there? i know that we will rebuild the ci , there? i know that we will rebuild the city. even _ there? i know that we will rebuild the city, even if _ there? i know that we will rebuild the city, even if we _ there? i know that we will rebuild the city, even if we will _ there? i know that we will rebuild the city, even if we will need - there? i know that we will rebuild the city, even if we will need to i the city, even if we will need to build it from zero, we will rebuild the city, but now it is not the time
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to think about rebuilding, it is the time to think about how we can save more than 200,000 people that are still live there. that is a story notjust still live there. that is a story not just about ukraine, still live there. that is a story notjust about ukraine, but still live there. that is a story not just about ukraine, but about all wars, and when this all started, it was an ordinary war, and two weeks ago, all the world understood to, that they cannot beat us on the battlefield, roche understood as well, that they decided to kill us all, to make an example of mariupol, what can be from their point of view, what they can do with all of ukraine, just destroy it. all the world are saying that they are all united around ukraine, they were always ukraine, i'm sorry, but if we are always ukraine and like everybody�*s united, and we cannot save 200,000, 250,000 people, who are still in mariupol, dying from
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hunger, so what can we do? and when you're saying that no—fly zone is not possible, 0k, it is not possible, but if auschwitz or other things like this are still possible in europe, in a 250,000 people dying from hunger is possible, but a no—fly zone is not? from hunger is possible, but a no-fly zone is not?— from hunger is possible, but a no-fly zone is not? leaders are meetin: no-fly zone is not? leaders are meeting to _ no-fly zone is not? leaders are meeting to discuss, _ no-fly zone is not? leaders are meeting to discuss, eu - no-fly zone is not? leaders are meeting to discuss, eu leaders| no-fly zone is not? leaders are - meeting to discuss, eu leaders will be meeting to discuss and have talks on this, but do you have any faith in them to be able to find any solution or to help in anyway? i’m solution or to help in anyway? i'm ve solution or to help in anyway? in very pessimistic about the diplomatic solution with putin. i think that they are just using this time to regroup. we see it, and by the way, even intelligence is the same thing, that they are just regrouping, and i lived in peter's moscow for 12 years, and do not trust this. —— putin's. they want a
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war. and we did sociological poles, a few days ago in russia, and 86% of russian adult population is ready and supports the war with european countries. —— polls. 75% to support that war in poland. if putin has the support of this population, and it is already, you know, the third reich, in the beginning of 40s, they are really going to have a big war and for three already has started. so now, it is not the point if we will alljoin this war, you and other european countries, now it is only the question of when my how, and in which territory you will have
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this war. if you join it now, you will have it in the territory of ukraine if you willjoin this world war iii later, you will have this war on your territory. that is the difference. war on your territory. that is the difference-— war on your territory. that is the difference. , , ., , ., difference. dmytro gurin, thank you for sharin: difference. dmytro gurin, thank you for sharing your _ difference. dmytro gurin, thank you for sharing your thoughts _ difference. dmytro gurin, thank you for sharing your thoughts with - difference. dmytro gurin, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us i for sharing your thoughts with us and i really feel the sense of bleakness that you feel, you really appreciate what you're going through. i really hope that you are able to regain communication with yourfamily in mariupol able to regain communication with your family in mariupol soon, able to regain communication with yourfamily in mariupol soon, but thank you for taking the time to speak to us, even in a statement the net difficult situation. we will go to the other news, returning to our top story, the situation in ukraine, we return to that in a bit but the latest stage of the covid—19 vaccine will be rolled out in england from today. the first group to be offered a spring booster will be particularly vulnerable people. it comes as covid cases continue to rise across the uk,
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with around one in every 20 people infected. 0ur health correspondent dominic hughes has the story. millions of people across the uk have already had up to three vaccinationjabs, credited with saving thousands of lives and easing the pressure on a hard—pressed health service. a round of spring boosterjabs to be given roughly six months after the last vaccine dose has already got under way in scotland and wales. now the details for arrangements in england have been announced. we are continuously learning about this virus, and through the pandemic and through the vaccination programme, learning how to make sure that people keep safe and keep protected. as with any vaccination, your protection does wane over time, so it's really important to get online and get booked and get protected today. the spring booster programme is a precautionary measure aimed at those who remain vulnerable to covid—19. first, it will be offered to people aged 75 and over and those who are immunosuppressed. they can book a jab
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from 7:00am this morning. in the coming weeks, the programme will also be rolled out to those living in care homes, and in total will cover around five million people. in northern ireland, the department of health said it expects the spring booster vaccinations to be completed in april and may. this latest phase of the vaccination programme comes as the number of cases linked to the 0micron variant is climbing once again, a reminder that this virus is not yet done with us and still poses a threat to the most vulnerable. dominic hughes, bbc news. sajid javid is the uk's health secretary — he told us earlier that despite rising infections, he's no more worried about covid than he was a week ago. case numbers are rising. infections are rising. indeed, hospital numbers are rising. they are still way below their peak and it is also important for us, when we review this, to understand why they are rising. that is primarily due to the increase in social mixing we are seeing, after the country has opened up,
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but also the sub—variant of 0micron which we know is, on the one hand, more infectious, but on the other hand we know that our vaccines workjust as well against this sub—variant. taking all of that into account, of course we keep the data under review, but there is no particular cause for concern at this point. that was a uk's health secretary sajid javid. hong kong's leader, carrie lam, has announced an easing of covid restrictions — from next month. these include ending the ban on flights from nine countries, and reducing hotel quarantine from 1a days to seven. schools will resume face—to—face teaching after the easter break. hong kong has been dealing with a huge wave of 0micron infections — recording more than a million cases in the past three months. there will be lots more on our top story, the situation in ukraine and other news coming up at the top of
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the hour. stay with us here on the bbc. hello there. the dry and sunny weather of the weekend will continue to hang around this week for a good part of it. there will be a bit more cloud at times and a small chance of a shower, but overall dry and sunny for the vast majority. it's also set to become warmer. just to show you the chart across europe how temperatures compare to normal. we will see them rise quite substantially here and across the north—west. we could see temperatures around five degrees, if not more, above average. the coldest weather for europe remains across some southern parts of the mediterranean. also the wettest. we had some frost to start the day, there was cloud in the west. that means it hasn't been as cold
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here, but it's a bit cloudier than we saw through the weekend. that cloud could produce the odd isolated shower throughout the day, drifting northwards and eastwards. sunniest of all, parts of north and eastern mainland scotland to north—east england, and this afternoon across southern counties of england, where we will see the highest of the temperatures. up to 17. a bit chilly around those eastern and northern coasts of scotland. into tonight, still clumps of cloud drifting northwards, showers here and there. in the clearer skies, still the chance of a touch of frost. the air is getting that little bit warmer bit by bit, so not as cold to start tomorrow morning. one or two showers around, maybe one or two developing in northern england, southern scotland into the afternoon. for long spells of sunshine, clear blue skies for many into the afternoon. we will all feel that warm water, a mild enough stock to wednesday morning, there could be some mist and low cloud by the stage around north sea coasts of the north
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and east of scotland. there could be some mist and low cloud by this stage around north sea coasts. mist and fog patches. air quality is starting to deteriorate a little bit and we could see one or two showers into the afternoon. by this stage, 20 degrees, if not more, across england and wales, 18 and 19 in the north—west of scotland. 0ne thursday and friday. ——warm weather. cloud picks up a bit more across eastern coasts so it will be turning just a little bit cooler yet again. hello there. the dry and sunny weather of the weekend will continue to hang
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this is bbc news. welcome if you're watching here in the uk or around the globe. our top stories: ukraine rejects a demand from russia to give up mariupol, saying there is "no question of any surrender". 300,000 people are trapped without power, food or water. president zelensky says it's a war crime. translation: over three weeks of this war, translation: over three weeks of this war. lots _ translation: over three weeks of this war, lots of _ translation: over three weeks of this war, lots of children _ translation: over three weeks of this war, lots of children have - this war, lots of children have died. it is the most horrible war in europe since the second world war. firefighters rescue people from the rubble after russia shells a shopping centre in kyiv, killing eight people. iamjames i am james reynolds in western ukraine. i will bring you all the very latest from inside this
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country. a new curfew has been announced for the ukrainian capital kyiv. it'll start from 8pm local time this evening, until wednesday. a passenger plane with 132 people on board crashes in southern china. it's feared there will be no survivors. the besieged ukrainian city of mariupol has rejected a russian ultimatum to surrender. moscow had given residents until 5am local time to give up. people in the port city have endured weeks of russian bombardment with no power or running water. around 300,000 people are believed to be trapped there. in the past couple of hours, ukraine has said that eight humanitarian corridors have been agreed for people to leave beseiged towns and cities — but mariupol isn't among them. in the last hour president zelensky has made a plea for europe to stop all trade with russia. let's go to lviv and my
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colleague, james reynolds. lucy, thank you very much. in the capital kyiv, the mayor has just announced another curfew. the reinforced curfew will run from 8pm local time this evening 6pm gmt — until seven o'clock local time on wednesday. hear the sirens, then 45 minutes later we get the all clear. life continues as normal as it can do in wartime. the focus remains in the centre and the east and the south of the country. there have been attacked seven nights and attacks in the north—eastern city of sumi and a ten story building was killed and at least eight people was killed. with an overview, this is my colleague john donaldson. but you might find some of the details in his report
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distressing. amid the ruins in mariupol, they are burying the dead in the street, bodies bundled up at the roadside. i hope there will be some sort of reburial and this is just temporary, but the military told us to put the bodies somewhere cold, and the only cold place now is in our basements. but there are people in the basements, so we buried them here. ukraine has rejected a deadline for russians to surrender and leave orface military tribunals, but with 90% of residential buildings damaged or destroyed, tens of thousands of people are now homeless. translation: everything is destroyed. _ you can see it yourself. there is no untouched apartment left. everything is broken. we don't know how to live on. in basement bomb shelters, and with no powerfor weeks, families gather and do what they can to stay warm. translation: we have been in a basement for 11 days. - this is the 25th day of war. we've been counting
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every one of them. we hope for the best, to live as humans. the apartment has been broken. everything is broken. where can we go from the basement? we're cooking at a fire. for now we have food and firewood, but in a week, we will have nothing, no food at all. what should we do? and in mariupol, nowhere is really safe, with ukraine accusing russia of deliberately targeting places where people are sheltering. translation: in besieged mariupol, the russian air force dropped - a bomb on an art school. people were using it as a hiding place from bombardment. there were no military positions there. there were about 400 people, peaceful people, mostly women and children and elderly people. they are now under rubble. for now, we do not know how many people have survived, but we do know that we will shoot down the pilot who dropped that bomb, like we have already shot down
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nearly 100 other mass murderers. elsewhere, overnight, in the capital kyiv, russian shelling of a shopping mall and residential district is said to have left several people dead, with emergency services still searching for people trapped under the rubble. by first light, the full force of the blast could be seen. with such destruction, it is hard to imagine the number of people killed won't rise. and this is just a few miles from the centre of the capital. but despite the bombardment, ukrainians are continuing to show defiance. these are protestors taking on the russian military in the only major city russia has managed to capture.
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and all the while, the number of refugees continues to grow. the un says a quarter of ukraine's population, 10 million people, have been forced to leave their homes, more than 3.5 million of them fleeing for the safety of neighbouring countries. jon donnison, bbc news. as we've been hearing, president zelensky has called on european countries to stop all trade with russia. translation: we are at war- for our survival, to save ourselves against one of the largest armies in the world, against missiles, bombs, artillery, planes, helicopters, that russia are ready to send. to berlin, they want to go notjust to ukraine, but everywhere. we are fighting the invaders
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that kill civilians, that kill people who are trying to escape, that burn residential quarters. over three weeks of this war, already 115 children have died. the most horrible war in europe since the second world war and i am convinced you have seen all of this, but what brought you to the street, the street whose name reminds us of this uprising on the 17th ofjune1953? the uprising against dictatorship. this is exactly what brought you there, that brings us to defend ourselves, that wish to live, to live in peace in the world which is free and even and what does push russia to wage waragainst us?
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the wish to break all that, all yourvalues, ourvalues because we are you, we ukrainians are part of europe and you see that we wish to be with europe, we have a desire to be with europe, which we are fighting for in the battlefield. you can win it simply in your community by your thought, by your words, by pressure on politicians, for ukraine to finally become a part of the european union. president zelensky of ukraine speaking earlier. let's turn our attention to the capital of kyiv. the mayor has enforced a reinforced curfew and shops will be closed, after that attack late at night in the capital which hit a ten story shopping centre, in which eight people were killed. james waterhouse is in the capital.
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well, it's been an unsettled night, to be honest. it's the turn of kiev to be the exception. most of the country has had a 24—hour period of calm, but kyiv last night there were a series of loud explosions that could be heard from the center of the city, it caused windows to to shake. and then we saw images of of burning buildings, along with the authorities telling us that a shopping center had been hit, along with a number of houses. just to the north of us, about sort of ten to 13 kilometers north of where we are in the city, and that, as you've just said, it's clear that the russians still see kyiv as their ultimate prize. this the invading forces have long been stationed just over my shoulder in the north westerly direction. you might be able to hear the occasional thud of artillery fire. there's been a lot more continuous fire this morning. we woke up to a thin layer of smog as well, from burning peat, burning soil coming from that direction as well. so it's been quite an unsettling
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sort of 12 hours for the city. james waterhouse in kyiv. let's head to moscow and join my colleague, caroline davies. how does russia see the progress of its military? according to president putin's comments at this rally on friday the denazification of ukraine are going to plan. if you had to open up the newspapers in russia, you might see images of what they call russian heroes with stories of their heroism and the fact they have been given medals for that as well. you might also hear about what is going on in mariupol and also hear about what is going on in mariupoland in also hear about what is going on in mariupol and in fact this has been described as being a humanitarian catastrophe, but from russia's side, they are saying it is about ukrainian nationalists, they are putting the blame squarely at their
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door instead. going through the level of atrocities we have heard through the course of our reports this morning, talking about the fact that kindergartens have been hit, schools and maternity hospitals, saying that is the ukrainian nationalists doing that instead. what is interesting this morning, we know mariupol has said it will not surrender. this was the ultimatum plot by russia to mariupol and the ukrainian forces yesterday. ukraine has said, no, we will not surrender. if you would wash russian media, he would say a humanitarian corridor has been offered to ukraine. but what you will not hear is the fact that ukraine has said it will not surrender. some of the media channels here are almost suggesting that ukrainian forces are desperate to surrender. a contradictory message being put out. we to surrender. a contradictory message being put out. we have been t in: to message being put out. we have been trying to give — message being put out. we have been trying to give an _ message being put out. we have been trying to give an idea _ message being put out. we have been trying to give an idea of— message being put out. we have been trying to give an idea of what - message being put out. we have been trying to give an idea of what life - trying to give an idea of what life is like here in lviv, what is life
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like in moscow?— is like here in lviv, what is life like in moscow? again, looking at some of the _ like in moscow? again, looking at some of the state _ like in moscow? again, looking at some of the state papers - like in moscow? again, looking at some of the state papers and - like in moscow? again, looking at some of the state papers and if. like in moscow? again, looking at i some of the state papers and if you go to some of the shops, there is no sugar on the shelves, it has been called a sugar panic. the state media is talking about the fact there is enough sugarjust people panic buying at this stage. but a lot of supermarkets are already putting limits on certain basic goods, things like salt and cooking oil, you are only allowed to buy a certain amount when you go to the supermarket at the moment. it would be wrong to suggest that shelves are empty, they are not. you can still buy a lot of products and the shops are still relatively full. day to day life on the street in moscow is normal. even if you walk past things like close to mcdonald's shops and other clothes luxury shops that have been shut down under the sanctions. people are worrying that things will change under the sanctions during
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the course of the next few weeks. caroline davies and mark so, thank you very much. let's head to romania where more than 500,000 refugees have crossed the border in the last few weeks. how are things where you are? ., , , few weeks. how are things where you are? , . , , , few weeks. how are things where you are? . . , , , ., few weeks. how are things where you are? , , ,., ., are? james, this is after a relatively _ are? james, this is after a relatively quiet _ are? james, this is after a relatively quiet weekend, | are? james, this is after a l relatively quiet weekend, it are? james, this is after a - relatively quiet weekend, it has been picking up again this morning. refugee flows coming over the border. we havejust met refugee flows coming over the border. we have just met the young ice hockey players from ukraine youths, between the ages of eight and 18. they have just gathered from different parts of ukraine and were brought across at the invitation of the romanian ice hockey federation, leaving their families behind. the romanian ice hockey federation, leaving theirfamilies behind. that was one particular story we saw this morning. also, individualstories
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and there was a family, a mother and four children from sumi, a place we have been hearing a lot about in the news. 0ne have been hearing a lot about in the news. one has this strange picture here and people just coming one after another, each of them with a different story from another corner of ukraine. ., ., , _, of ukraine. you have been covering that art of ukraine. you have been covering that part of — of ukraine. you have been covering that part of the _ of ukraine. you have been covering that part of the world _ of ukraine. you have been covering that part of the world for— of ukraine. you have been covering that part of the world for many - that part of the world for many decades, i wonder on your reflections on what you have seen over the last few weeks compared to what you have seen over the last 30 years? what you have seen over the last 30 ears? ., , what you have seen over the last 30 ears? . , . , , ., years? that is a big question, james. often _ years? that is a big question, james. often standing - years? that is a big question, james. often standing on - years? that is a big question, james. often standing on this years? that is a big question, - james. often standing on this border james. 0ften standing on this border in the last weeks and on the hungarian, ukrainian border, i reflect on the similarities and contrasts with the refugee crisis of seven years ago when obviously
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afghans, syrians, iraqis, people from sub—saharan africa and north africa. i think some of the ngos here helping them of the same as the ones we saw seven years ago, who basically, at a time like this, mobilise and come to the nearest border as individuals, getting very organised, sorting out food, immediate assistance and so on. what i am witnessing in this particular refugee crisis is a much bigger effort of the nations and the states to get involved, the organisations, the red cross, the large church charities and secular charities all pulling together. one has a sense of home society is mobilising, notjust activists and youth. that is one of the big contrasts. but in terms of the big contrasts. but in terms of the people coming, the other big contrast is it is all women and children. i have never covered a refugee crisis which is reallyjust
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women and children before. that is another big contrast. in terms of people as refugees, refugees, in my experience, whether they were from communist romania entering hungary. whether they were refugees from bosnia or croatia during the yugoslav wars, coming from the middle east or now coming from ukraine, a refugee, is a refugee in my experience and these people always need help. i am always amazed by the generosity of the host countries, the transit countries, the people who mobilise to help them. w' ., the people who mobilise to help them. w ., ., ., , the people who mobilise to help them. ., ., ., , , them. nick, have the authority is where you _ them. nick, have the authority is where you are — them. nick, have the authority is where you are set _ them. nick, have the authority is where you are set how— them. nick, have the authority is where you are set how many - them. nick, have the authority is. where you are set how many more people they can take? what kind of capacity they have? this people they can take? what kind of capacity they have?— capacity they have? this particular border crossing, _ capacity they have? this particular border crossing, we _ capacity they have? this particular border crossing, we have - capacity they have? this particular border crossing, we have had - capacity they have? this particular| border crossing, we have had four, five, 6000 a day and i think it was up five, 6000 a day and i think it was up to 8000 at the height of this. the border police have been saying they could probably cope, and that
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was a rough estimate, they said they could probably cope with 20,000 a day crossing here. they are worried that if it got too bigger numbers than that, if this war where to spread, if the different fronts were to approach western ukraine which is still relatively peaceful over my shoulder here, then i think they would be needing to channel people to other border crossings. but certainly, it is not reaching capacity, you have an amazing organisational achievement here, to bring the people in quickly so people are not standing around, they are given quickly a place to rest if they need help. there is a turkish emergency medical centre, they have eight beds, which are all empty at this particular time. there is an ability here, both to absorb more people coming from ukraine, but also an ability on the other side of this area here, to channel... and this is what we are seeing, too, to channel more humanitarian and medical help
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from western and central europe into ukraine. . ~ from western and central europe into ukraine. ., , . ., ukraine. nick thorpe close to the border in siret, _ ukraine. nick thorpe close to the border in siret, thank _ ukraine. nick thorpe close to the border in siret, thank you - ukraine. nick thorpe close to the border in siret, thank you very i border in siret, thank you very much. i spent some time at an art propaganda gallery this morning. and then i was struck by one man walking past me, an older gentleman in a very smart coat and tie, a bowler hat, looking like he was off to work. i almost stopped because that was the first person i saw dressed for normal life for some time. lucy. james, thank you. the vast majority of the over three million people who fled ukraine have gone into poland and our correspondent danjohnson in krakow train station explains where the incoming people are heading to. many of them are going on to other polish cities
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or indeed to other european countries, the next train to leave from here will head to berlin. there have been many trains going in that direction, taking ukrainian families on to try to relieve the pressure on the accommodation here in a city like krakow. the numbers in the last few days have been a little bit lower. things do feel a bit calmer and a little bit more manageable, but still the accommodation here in the city is running out and there are questions about where people will be housed next. let's have a chat with darya, one of the volunteers here at the station. you're ukrainian yourself. but you've been you've been helping out with people arriving here. yeah, i work here and we give people a temporary placements with their families, and we're dealing right now with the big problem that we are running out of places and people are coming every day. and right now we are giving places around krakow in the region and we are trying to find places for everyone. how difficult is that getting? where are you having to send people to?
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we have to send them to small cities and small towns. sometimes it's in the mountains. and people are reluctant to go, sometimes to move furtherfrom krakow from the polish border? yeah, sometimes it's very hard for them to move. people come here. they are very shocked. they have no idea what are they going to do with their lives. and we will do all we can to help them. the numbers have been incredible. it's been relentless for the last three weeks, 2.1 million, ithink, now from ukraine. how has it been the last few days and what what do you see in the days ahead? well, right now we have easier time with the amount of people that are coming because the first weeks it was just a disaster. we had like thousands of people coming every day. but right now i think that they're going maybe further in europe, like they moved to germany, to other countries, and it's a little bit easier, but still not much places.
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breaking news from china — where a passengerjet has crashed. the china eastern plane was on an internal flight when it came down in remote countryside, near the city of wuzhou. here's what we know about china eastern flight mu5735. it took off at 05.16 gmt - that's just after quarter past one in the afternoon, local time — from the city of kunming. there were 132 crew and passengers on board its destination, guangzhou — a trip which usually takes just under an hour and 40 minutes. flight tracking detail suggests everything was fine, untiljust around 0620 gmt, just over an hour into the flight. the aircraft then begins a sudden, unexplained descent. it lost height at an average of 8,000 feet in a minute. that's an average vertical speed of around 145 kmh. it's possible it was accelerating downwards in that time.
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0ur correspondent theo leggett is with me now. what do we know about the vertical descent and how unusual? lintiii what do we know about the vertical descent and how unusual? until the last two minutes _ descent and how unusual? until the last two minutes of _ descent and how unusual? until the last two minutes of this _ descent and how unusual? until the last two minutes of this flight, i descent and how unusual? until the last two minutes of this flight, it i last two minutes of this flight, it was a normal flight, last two minutes of this flight, it was a normalflight, it last two minutes of this flight, it was a normal flight, it took off and got to a cruising altitude and was less than an hour from its destination. then it started descending rapidly. it appears it was descending at about 10,000 feet per minute. this is well beyond what you would see in the event of an emergency descent, for example. something went rapidly wrong, we do not know what. it impacted a mountainside and everybody aboard was killed. it is important to note a few things, it was a boeing 737 800, one of the next—generation series of 737. it was produced in the mid—90s and 7000 overall have been produced and 5000 of this
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variant. they generally have a very good safety record. we are in a different situation to where we were three years ago with the plane that went down over ethiopia or the indonesian plane that went down a few months beforehand. they were a 737 max aircraft, new model and software that turned out to be faulty. this is different, it is a well—established tried and tried and tested aircraft. the one involved in this incident is only six or seven years old. this incident is only six or seven years old-— this incident is only six or seven ears old. ., ,., ., , ., years old. could it potentially have been structural? _ years old. could it potentially have been structural? it _ years old. could it potentially have been structural? it could _ been structural? it could potentially _ been structural? it could potentially have - been structural? it could potentially have been i been structural? it could potentially have been a i been structural? it could i potentially have been a number been structural? it could - potentially have been a number of things, that is why it is important to let the investigators get on with their work. to let the investigators get on with theirwork. for example, to let the investigators get on with their work. for example, it to let the investigators get on with theirwork. for example, it could to let the investigators get on with their work. for example, it could be deliberate. they could be a terrorism act or something to do with one of the pilots. it could be an in—flight structuralfailure. it could be a collision with another smaller aircraft or an unmanned aerial vehicle. all of these things are possibilities. what
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investigators will be doing is studying the scene of the accident, studying the scene of the accident, studying the scene of the accident, studying the documentation and the background to the flight. and eventually trying to find the cockpit data recorder and the data recorder. that will tell what was going on in the cockpit and the data recorder will have the parameters of the state of the aircraft and what it was doing in the minutes leading up it was doing in the minutes leading up to the crash. brute it was doing in the minutes leading up to the crash.— up to the crash. we have 'ust seen the pictures — up to the crash. we have 'ust seen the pictures from i up to the crash. we have 'ust seen the pictures from the i up to the crash. we have just seen the pictures from the site - up to the crash. we have just seen the pictures from the site of i up to the crash. we have just seen the pictures from the site of the i the pictures from the site of the crash and there are a huge amount of rescuers heading to the scene, are there any other eyewitness accounts circulating that could help us understand?— understand? there is a lot circulating _ understand? there is a lot circulating on _ understand? there is a lot circulating on social i understand? there is a lot circulating on social media understand? there is a lot i circulating on social media and understand? there is a lot - circulating on social media and one video in particular appears to show an aircraft descending very rapidly into wooded mountainside. it is also worth bearing in mind that in events like this you often get false videos. some people have an agenda. all of these things have to be treated with a certain amount of
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scepticism, i think. to treated with a certain amount of scepticism, ithink.— scepticism, i think. to chinese airlines generally _ scepticism, i think. to chinese airlines generally have - scepticism, i think. to chinese airlines generally have a i scepticism, i think. to chinese airlines generally have a very i scepticism, i think. to chinese i airlines generally have a very good safety record?— safety record? yes, china eastern has a perfectly — safety record? yes, china eastern has a perfectly good _ safety record? yes, china eastern has a perfectly good safety i safety record? yes, china eastern| has a perfectly good safety record, the last accident it was involved in was 12 years ago. it is not a situation where you have an airline with a poor safety record, it is not an aircraft that is a new design, it is a tried and tested aircraft, flown by an airline with a reputable, good reputation. pair reputable, good reputation. air safety and aviation standards continually improve at the moment because there is more transparency around the sector, is that fair to say? around the sector, is that fair to sa ? ,,. , around the sector, is that fair to say? safety standards in aviation have been very _ say? safety standards in aviation have been very high. _ say? safety standards in aviation have been very high. it _ say? safety standards in aviation have been very high. it is i say? safety standards in aviation have been very high. it is one i say? safety standards in aviation have been very high. it is one of| have been very high. it is one of the safest forms of travel. airlines will not fly people unless they are confident and people need the confidence of knowing the airlines say. —— safe. 0ur correspondent stephen mcdonell joins me from beijing.
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fire teams race there to try to see if anyone — fire teams race there to try to see if anyone could be found. they are saying _ if anyone could be found. they are saying there is no sign of survivors. we are hearing from rescue — survivors. we are hearing from rescue teams that the plane has disintegrated completely and when it hit the _ disintegrated completely and when it hit the ground it set fire to a bamboo _ hit the ground it set fire to a bamboo forest, so it looks like there _ bamboo forest, so it looks like there is— bamboo forest, so it looks like there is nothing much left of the plane _ there is nothing much left of the plane by— there is nothing much left of the plane by the time it hit. 0n the evening — plane by the time it hit. 0n the evening news, which hasjust gone out here, — evening news, which hasjust gone out here, it — evening news, which hasjust gone out here, it started with the presenter delivering a message from xi jinping _ presenter delivering a message from xi jinping calling for a quick investigation to try and find out what _ investigation to try and find out what has — investigation to try and find out what has gone wrong, to see if potentially they need to ground every _ potentially they need to ground every single boeing 737 800 jet in the country. the number two leader here, _ the country. the number two leader here, he _ the country. the number two leader here, he has— the country. the number two leader here, he has called for a very timely, — here, he has called for a very timely, in— here, he has called for a very timely, in his words, timely and frank— timely, in his words, timely and frank investigation. they are trying to, at— frank investigation. they are trying to, at least— frank investigation. they are trying to, at least publicly, say they want
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the truth, — to, at least publicly, say they want the truth, they want to know if there — the truth, they want to know if there is— the truth, they want to know if there is any chance this could happen— there is any chance this could happen again. there is any chance this could happen again-— there is any chance this could happen again. thanks for that u date, happen again. thanks for that update. then _ happen again. thanks for that update, then use _ happen again. thanks for that update, then use on - happen again. thanks for that update, then use on the i happen again. thanks for that i update, then use on the chinese passenger plane which has crashed with 132 people on board, it is thought there were no survivors. you are the dry and sunny weather will hang around. 0verall, dry and sunny for the vast majority and we notice it is set to become warm. show you the chart across europe and how temperatures compare with normal. we will see them rise substantially. we could see temperatures around 5 degrees, if not more above—average. coldest weather for europe remains across some southern parts of the mediterranean and also the wettest. we have had a bit of a frost to start the day but there was cloud in the west and that means it hasn't been as cold here. these clouds
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could produce an isolated shower in the day and drifting away northwards and eastwards. many into north—east scotland and north—east england and the southern counties of england where we will see the highest of the temperatures come up to 17 degrees this afternoon in the west of london and 14 in the highlands of scotland. chilly round the eastern and northern coasts of scotland. clouds drifting northwards tonight with the odd shower here and there, particularly to the south—west of england. in the clear skies there is a chance of a touch of frost in the northern half of the country but the air is getting that little bit warmer. not as cold to start tomorrow morning. 0ne warmer. not as cold to start tomorrow morning. one or two showers around, drifting off in the south—west of south wales and may one or two developing in southern scotland in the afternoon. but the car breaks up with long spells of sunshine and clear blue skies for many in the afternoon. 18 degrees across parts of england and wales and up to 17 in the highlands of
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scotland. it will feel warmer and a mild enough start to wednesday morning. mist and low cloud by the stage around the north sea coasts of the north and east of scotland, mist and fog patches in the morning. air quality starting to deteriorate a little bit and we could see one or two showers into the afternoon. but by the stage, 20 degrees, if not more possible across england and wales and 18 and 19 in the north—west of scotland. the warm weather continues through thursday and friday, mostly dry with an isolated shower. breeze picks up and more low cloud towards eastern coast over the weekend so it will turn cooler yet again.
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this is bbc news. welcome if you're watching here in the uk or around the globe. our top stories... no surrender in mariupol — ukrainian forces refuse to give up their arms, despite an ultimatum from russia. translation: over three weeks of this war, - 115 children have died. it is the most horrible war in europe since the second world war. firefighters rescue people from the rubble after russia shells a shopping centre in kyiv, killing eight people. a new curfew has been announced for the ukrainian capital kyiv. it'll start from 8pm local time this evening, until wednesday. a passenger plane —
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with 132 people on board — crashes in southern china. it's feared there will be no survivors. sport and for a full round—up, from the bbc sport centre, here's gavin. good morning. let's start with that fantastic start to the formula one season. no mercedes or red bull on top spot but ferrari. the first time we've seen that in three years. the cars have undergone the greatest changes in a generation to make races more exciting and it worked. ferrari's charles leclerc and world champion max verstappen swapped the lead five times in two laps. leclerc triumphed after verstappen and his red bull team mate sergio perez retired with just three laps left, allowing hamilton to claim an unexpected third in his slower mercedes.
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afterjust one win in their opening six games in super league, richard agar has left leeds rhinos. the 50—year—old took over in 2019 and led rhinos to the 2020 challenge cup, their first trophy since 2017. assistant coach jamiejones—buchanan will take interim charge for saturday's challenge cup tie against castleford. there was a glimmer of hope for an england win in the second test with west indies but the match ended in another draw. ben stokes was on form again for england, piling on the runs. the tourists with a lead of 281 before declaring, which captain joe root says they should have done sooner — as they ran out of time to get the ten wickets needed, jack leach with three, saqib mahmood with two. it's all set up nicely for a winner—takes—all deciding test, which is on thursday. we keep putting ourselves in these positions, it won't be long before we see ourselves winning a test match here. so more of the same next week. can't ask for any more from the group, they were brilliant again, attitude was excellent. commitment throughout the whole game.
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spending a long time in the field, concentration, and ability to take those chances today when there were some tired bodies flying around was a great effort. so a lot of good signs again. another british bid to buy chelsea football club has emerged, two days after the intial deadline. global investment firm centricus, which oversees £29 billion in assets and featuring several chelsea season—ticket holders, says it wants to "maintain and support existing management and will be "committed to supporting the club and its key stakeholders "to ensure its continued success." at least four consortiums have already said they have bid to buy the premier league club, which was put up for sale by owner roman abramovich earlier this month prior to the russian billionaire being sanctioned. rafa nadal�*s unbeaten streak has finally come to an end — it's a phenomenal run for the spaniard. he lost in the final of indian wells to taylor fritz. the australian open champion's run stretched back 20 matches,
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but fritz ended that overnight, winning in straight sets. nadal said he suffered from breathing difficulties in the defeat — but a big moment for fritz, becoming the first american to win at indian wells since andre agassi in 2001. boris becker will stand trial today, after being accused of failing to hand over assets to settle his bankrupty debts. the former tennis star was declared bankrupt injune 2017 and is alleged to have been hiding assets and transactions worth over £4.5 million. the 54—year—old has failed to hand over his trophies including his 1985 wimbledon title, as well as silverware from his triumphs at the australian open in 1991 and 1996. and david beckham handed over his instagram account to a ukranian doctor working in the city of kharkiv yesterday. iryna shared images of the cramped basement where pregnant women and new mothers were evacuated during the first day of the russian invasion with his 71 million followers. beckham is a unicef ambassador and urged people to donate to the charity, which is trying to provide families access to clean water and food, and kits to maternity hospitals.
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thanks to your donations, the oxygen generators they have received are helping newborns survive in appalling conditions. that's all the sport for now. i'll have more for you in the next hour. it is business time. ramzan is here. looking at energy today. no surprise, with the invasion, it is having a real impact on notjust oil prices in the markets but our own domestic gas and electric prices as well. the conflict between russia and ukraine has exposed europe's heavy reliance on russian energy. and while the united states has been able to call an embargo on russian oil, it's not so clear cut for europe. the continent relies on russia for 40% of its coal and gas imports and a quarter of its crude oil. earlier this morning, dutch prime minister mark rutte admitted that europe can't cut itself off by tomorrow. and the kremlin also warned today that an embargo on russian oil imports would have a direct
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impact on everyone. meanwhile, germany says it has sealed a long—term agreement with qatar for the supply of liquefied natural gas. so how easy will it be for europe to wean itself off russian energy? that's a question we put to nathan piper, head of oil and gas research at investec. germany imports a lot of gas from russia already and it's trying to take steps to reduce that but it's going to take a lot longer and take a lot more than signing deals with qatar. they don't have lng import facilities in germany, so it'll be a number of years before physically they can accept those cargoes. what we need to keep in mind before the russia ukraine crisis and the fallout from that, we already had a very tight oil and gas market and the big fear, the problem at the moment is not enough spare capacity on the oil production side in particular, so it's probably good news that saudi arabia is going to continue to invest and develop further oil production capacity. last week, we told you about the sudden firing of 800 staff at p&0 ferries. its services still remain suspended
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and protests continue as the uk government examines the legality of the firms actions. of the firm's actions. p&0 ferries is owned by dubai based logistics giant, dp world. before the pandemic it was responsible for carrying around ten million passengers and around 15% of all goods coming in and out of the uk. dr liz breen is a supply chain expert at the university of bradford. thank you forjoining us. i mean, how disruptive could this be if these ships don't get a move on anytime soon?— these ships don't get a move on an ime soon? _, ., ., . anytime soon? good morning. well, these crossings _ anytime soon? good morning. well, these crossings are _ anytime soon? good morning. well, these crossings are critical _ anytime soon? good morning. well, these crossings are critical with i these crossings are critical with regards to connecting the uk, ireland and mainland europe and there is a lot of freight, as you just mentioned, and a lot of passengers crossing these waters every single day, so we can clearly see there will be concerns with regards to the transportation of
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perishable items between the different countries and the different countries and the different ports, but there are also concerns with regards to livestock, so certainly the northern irish farmers do seem to be concerned. with regards to timing and the unplanned nature of this, as well as the passengers and freight, we also have that disruption again with regards to our supply chains which clearly no one imagined we were going to have another major disruption in our locality. we have had the suez canal, we have had covid, we now have the russian war in ukraine and now we have this as well, so i do think that it will have a very negative impact on some of our supply chains but, hopefully, that impact is reduced if they can resolve the situation quickly. essen resolve the situation quickly. even if the do resolve the situation quickly. even if they do resolve _ resolve the situation quickly. even if they do resolve that _ resolve the situation quickly. even if they do resolve that situation quickly, can p&0 be trusted in the future? can we trust dp world, the owners, to get p&0 up and running again quickly and get our goods delivered and get passengers moving? that's a very good question and i
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think, for some businesses, they may have already defaulted to other options. so certainly coming out from northern ireland, p&0 is one provider but also you have others and some of the freight and some of the passengers may already have voted with their feet, literally, and moved over to other providers so they may never come back to p&0 but, from a trust point of view, is a continued service provider, one has to hope the amount of traffic that goes through p&0, their contribution to the economy and their contribution to the local livelihood of the communities around them will be enough for their parent provider to say, actually, this is a vital resource for communities and our economy so therefore we will continue to make sure we support it. i think the unplanned nature and at the timing of it has just made it such a shock to the system, when we are trying to recover from other disruptions, wejust are trying to recover from other disruptions, we just obviously didn't anticipate we would have to be dealing with this as well. so i think they will have to work very hard to win back the trust of the
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businesses and also their passengers and very quickly adjust at that, so they can reduce the damage to their reputation. they can reduce the damage to their reutation. a , they can reduce the damage to their reutation. , ., ., reputation. many thanks for your time. reputation. many thanks for your time- and _ reputation. many thanks for your time. and that _ reputation. many thanks for your time. and that is _ reputation. many thanks for your time. and that is the _ reputation. many thanks for your time. and that is the business. i time. and that is the business. thank you so much. the latest stage of the covid vaccine programme will be rolled out in england from today. the first group to be offered a spring booster will be people over the age of 75, care home residents and anyone over the age of 12 considered at high risk from the infection. it comes as covid cases continue to rise across the uk, with around one in every 20 people infected. 0ur health correspondent dominic hughes has the story. millions of people across the uk have already had up to three vaccinationjabs, credited with saving thousands of lives and easing the pressure on a hard—pressed health service. a round of spring boosterjabs to be given roughly six months after the last vaccine dose has already got under way in scotland and wales. now the details for arrangements in england have been announced. we are continuously
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learning about this virus, and through the pandemic and through the vaccination programme, learning how to make sure that people keep safe and keep protected. as with any vaccination, your protection does wane over time, so it's really important to get online and get booked and get protected today. the spring booster programme is a precautionary measure aimed at those who remain vulnerable to covid—19. first, it will be offered to people aged 75 and over and those who are immunosuppressed. they can book a jab from 7.00am this morning. in the coming weeks, the programme will also be rolled out to those living in care homes, and in total will cover around five million people. in northern ireland, the department of health said it expects the spring booster vaccinations to be completed in april and may. this latest phase of the vaccination programme comes as the number of cases linked to the 0micron variant is climbing once again, a reminder that this virus is not yet done with us and still poses
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a threat to the most vulnerable. dominic hughes, bbc news. sajid javid is the uk's health secretary. he told us earlier that, despite rising infections, he's no more worried about covid than he was a week ago. case numbers are rising. infections are rising. indeed, hospital numbers are rising. they are still way below their peak and it is also important for us, when we review this, to understand why they are rising. that is primarily due to the increase in social mixing we are seeing, after the country has opened up, but also the sub—variant of 0micron which we know is, on the one hand, more infectious, but on the other hand we know that our vaccines workjust as well against this sub—variant. taking all of that into account, of course we keep the data under review, but there is no particular cause for concern at this point. from mobile phones and tvs, to laptops and computers — every year, we throw away millions of tons of electronic waste. from mobile phones and tvs,
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to laptops and computers — but not all of it is rubbish. now, the royal mint has come up with a new way to extract precious metals from our unwanted tech — with a surprising end result. here's our science editor, rebecca morelle. it's a problem that's piling up — the electronic waste that we're throwing away. but for the royal mint, this isn't rubbish. it's a precious resource. they're taking the circuit boards from laptops and phones and placing them in a secret solution. over a series of steps, chemicals extract what's inside. what comes out is this brown powder. it's then heated for 30 minutes at more than 1,000 celsius, and the end result becomes clear — it's pure gold. we're hoping to recover all of the metals on the board, primarily gold to start with, but we're looking at copper, nickel, tin, particularly tin,
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and some silver. it's set to provide a new source of materials for the royal mint�*s main business, making coins. this whole space is about to be transformed. by this time next year, 90 tonnes of e—waste will pass through here each week, and the plan is eventually for every single part of every electronic component to be extracted and reused. the process needs to be shifted from the lab to work on an industrial scale. so if you take all of the disused electronics around your home, that represents about 7% of the world's gold. that is a huge number, and really gives us the initiative and the imperative to start recycling those electronics. globally, about 50 million tonnes of e—waste is being produced annually, but only 20% is currently being recycled. in the uk, each person generates 24
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kilograms of e—waste each year. that's the second highest amount in the world. scientists say we could look to other countries who are doing a betterjob of meeting their waste targets, like switzerland. one of the reasons it's working there is they have made the opportunities for consumers to take back their waste very widespread. so you could walk into any shop that sells electronics with your broken toothbrush, even if they don't sell toothbrushes, and they have to take it back. turning e—waste into gold is just one solution, but the problem is growing so fast, we need many more, and this means rethinking what we're throwing away and recognising that even our rubbish has value. rebecca morelle, bbc news. as russia's invasion of ukraine enters its fourth week, there are mounting concerns about the spill of conflict further away in the western balkans.
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bosnia—herzegovina is facing a resurgence of secessionist tendencies, while attempts to normalise relations between serbia and kosovo have ground to a halt in recent years. it was in 1999 when nato forces bombed belgrade, the capital of serbia, to stop the ethnic cleansing of albanians by serbs in kosovo. this is now quite often referred to by the russian president putin when justifying the war in ukraine. well, one of the leaders who has been outspoken against the war in ukraine is the prime minister of kosovo, albin kurti. he's been speaking to my colleague nuala mcgovern. oh, well, there is definitely a hybrid war in western balkans, because there are different proxies in our region who are directly influenced and perhaps even financed by kremlin, namely serbia, our northern neighbour, which does not recognise our republic but also republika srpska in bosnia and herzegovina,
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have very broad and strong ties with moscow. we are worried, but we are not afraid. we are very vigilant because it is in the interest of the kremlin to spread the war conflict elsewhere in order to cause destabilisation of continental europe towards what i believe is the aim of despotic president putin. another yalta conference similar to the one during second world war. so the yalta conference, for some of our younger viewers, perhaps or not history buffs, of where really the soviet empire was created as those talks took place between the ussr and the us over europe. but you talk about a hybrid war there, what are you talking about exactly? the regional centre of sputnik in western balkans is in belgrade. there are so many online media
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who cherish kremlin and the military aggression of russian federation in ukraine and russian invasion in ukraine, and who try to belittle the liberation struggle of ukrainian people and their courage and resilience. so hybrid war is full of false narratives and disinformation. in order to keep the morale of russian soldiers and to have recruitment in western balkans. for different kind of right wing extremist organisations, in particular, belgrade, offical belgrade has close ties with moscow. gazprom owns 56% of oil industry of serbia and 51% of the biggest gas storage in southern eastern europe, which is in biernacki dvora in vulvodynia in serbia. then, ten years ago, serbia and russia had two joint military activities.
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in 2016, they had 50 joint military activities, and last year they had 100 joint military activities. serbia spends almost 3% of gdp and military equipment on military equipment and its military personnel, and they have 14 mig 29. eight of them donations from belarus and six from russian. so prime minister, with what you're saying there and i think our viewers would take it, is that i think some of your fears are really centered on serbia and their connections with russia and how that might affect your country. but you will have seen moscow put across time and time again, really, that argument that the us and nato under the pretext, this is the words of russia, of humanitarian intervention and no un authorisation, unilaterally bombed serbia in 1999, followed by a ground incursion. and the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov, you know, he has often used that, that they set the precedent, the west and the us in particular,
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and that it negates the value of, for example, a western alliance or nato critiquing russia's actions in ukraine. what would you respond to that? in the mid—�*90s, we had genocide in bosnia and herzegovina. in the late �*90s, 19 countries of nato got together to stop genocide in kosovo. it was second genocide in continental europe since the second world war. 19 countries reached consensus to bombard yugoslavia and serbia. it must have been very bad because 19 countries said yes to bombing one country. and thanks to nato intervention, serbian genocide in kosovo was stopped. back then, in spring 1999, we had 20,000 women being raped by serbian policemen and soldiers. 860,000 people were deported
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outside of our country. 80% of the population were expelled from their homes. we still nowadays have 1,600 missing persons who are forcibly disappeared, and over 12,000 unarmed civilians have been killed. and there is nojustice for all these atrocities. nato intervened then. the prime minister of kosovo is speaking a little earlier. many see the invasion of ukraine by vladimir putin as a pivotal moment in history. the german chancellor, 0laf scholz, has called it a turning point, a monumental shift which will have consequences for many nations and how they work together. our special correspondent allan little provides his take on the global impact of this war. the war in ukraine has changed the world. we are in new and more dangerous times. the post—cold war era is over. it has been brewing a long time.
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it is nearly 20 years since vladimir putin first sent troops to occupy parts of georgia. eight since he occupied parts of ukraine. he has sent spies into british cities armed with nerve agents to murder exiled russians. but the western democracies did not disengage. europe built up an unhealthy dependence on russian gas. even now, europe buys russia's gas at $1 billion a day. london became a safe place for russia's wealthy elites to park money. they built prestigious property empires. few questions were asked about where the money came from, but putin has misread the world catastrophically. first, in his view that ukrainian is a bogus identity. ukrainians have proved it's an identity they're ready to fight and die for. putin's plan for a swift decapitation of the state has failed. russia's military incompetence has been striking. most importantly, he misread
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the west, believing it weakened by internal division and in long term decline. he supports ukraine, but the west is more united now uk supports ukraine. but the west is more united now than it has been since the fall of the berlin wall. the economic and financial sanctions it swiftly agreed are the most punitive ever imposed. in effect, they expel russia from the global economy. a new economic iron curtain has descended. it will plunge russia into a profound economic crisis. industries will grind to a halt. unemployment will rise. inflation will destroy people's savings. the west is now committed to ending its dependence on russian gas. there will be no going back from that. this is also a war between democracy and authoritarianism. it's not just that vladimir putin doesn't want a western ally on his doorstep. it's also that an increasingly repressive russia that locks up its political opponents doesn't want a successful open democracy on its doorstep, either.
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for fear of the example it might set. in the 1990s, boris yeltsin tried to turn russia into a democracy. when that failed, putin took it back to its imperial past, aggressively asserting russia's right to defend itself by dominating its neighbors. the question now is whether this fight will go global and divide the world into two mutually antagonistic blocs. china and russia are bonded by a shared antipathy to american power. china does not want putin weakened or the west strengthened, but it will be dismayed that this is precisely what putin's war has achieved. the war threatens to roll back decades of economic globalisation. beijing does not want that, either. this is a fight between democracy and authoritarianism. it is also a fight between two conflicting worldviews. putin wants a return to something like the yalta settlement of 1945, which divided europe into spheres of interest and gave russia domination of eastern europe.
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the west wants the values of the helsinki final act of 1975, which recognised the rights of sovereign independent states to choose their own destinies and alliances. this is the face that has become the living symbol of that fight. president zelenskyy has united ukrainians around a powerful and proud sense of who they are and is saluted now across the democratic world. allan little, bbc news. let's return now to the devastation in the capital city kyiv, in ukraine. in the capital city kyiv, in ukraine-— in the capital city kyiv, in ukraine. , , . , , ., ukraine. these pictures 'ust in and look at that, the i ukraine. these picturesjust in and look at that, the incredible - look at that, the incredible devastation and damage caused by shelling and a bomb overnight. this is a shopping centre in the north—east of kyiv and we know that eight people have been killed and it has been absolutely pulverised, as you can see, the shopping centre there, the cars in the car park,
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windows blown out, incredible damage from that bombing overnight in kyiv. you have been watching bbc news. hello. the dry and sunny weather of the weekend will continue to hang around this week for a good part of it. there will be a bit more clout at times and this small chance of a shower but, overall, dry and sunny for the vast majority and what you lot are notices it is said to become one. if you look at the chart across europe are temperatures compared to normal, we will see them rise quite substantially here and across the north west. those red colours develop, temperatures 5 degrees if not more above—average. the coldest weather for europe remains across southern parts of the mediterranean, it will also remain the waiters. we have had a bit of a frost to start the day, was cloud in the west, so that means it hasn't been as cold here but it is that cloud which
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could create an isolated shower through the day, drifting away northwards and eastwards. sunniest of all, parts of the north and mainland scotland towards northern ireland and across the southern counties of england where we will see the highest of the temperatures, up see the highest of the temperatures, up to 17 to the north and west of london, up to 14 in the north west highlands of scotland virtually around the eastern and northern coasts of scotland. tonight, clumps of cloud drifting northwards, the odd shower here and there, particularly towards the south—west of england and toured scotland but across clear skies, the chance of a touch of frost, especially the northern half of the country but the air is getting that little bit warmer, bit by bit, so not as cold to start tomorrow morning. 0ne warmer, bit by bit, so not as cold to start tomorrow morning. one or two showers around, one drifting off across the south—west and wales, one or two developing into southern scotland in the afternoon but for most, the cloud breaks have come of sunshine, back to almost clear blue skies for many and temperatures continue to creep up, 18 or 19 across parts of england and wales, 17 in the highlands of scotland. so
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we will all feel warmer, a mild enough start to wednesday. they could be so missed and low cloud at this stage around some north sea coast on the north and east of scotland, one or two fog patches in the morning. air quality is starting to deteriorate a little bit so we could see one or two showers into the afternoon but, by this stage, 20 degrees if not more possible across england and, 18 or 19 in the north—west of scotland and the warm weather continues through thursday or friday, isolated showers, the breeze picks up towards eastern coasts into the weekend so it will start to turn a little cooler yet again. bye for now.
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this is bbc news. welcome if you're watching here in the uk or around the globe. i'm lucy hockings. our top stories: ukraine rejects a demand from russia to give up mariupol, saying there is "no question of any surrender". 300,000 people are trapped without power, food or water. president zelensky says it's a war crime. translation: over three weeks of this war, already _ 115 children have died. that's the most horrible war in europe since the second world war. eight people die after russia attacks a shopping centre and a number of houses in kyiv. the mayor of kyiv has announced a further 35 hour curfew for the ukrainian capital... it'll run until wednesday. nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe, who was freed after being detained in iran for six years, is due to speak publicly for
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the first time since her release. we're expecting to hear from nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe in a few minutes from now. join us here for full live coverage of the press conference. elsewhere, and a passenger plane with 132 people on board crashes in southern china. it's feared there will be no survivors. the besieged ukrainian city of mariupol has rejected a russian ultimatum to surrender. moscow had given residents until 5am local time to give up. people in the port city have endured weeks of russian bombardment with no power or running water. around 300,000 people are believed to be trapped there. in the past couple of hours, ukraine has said that eight humanitarian corridors have been agreed for people to leave beseiged towns and cities,
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but mariupol isn't among them. in the last couple of hours, president zelensky has made a plea for europe to stop all trade with russia. he argued russia by invading ukraine is waging a war against european values. translation: we are at war- for our survival, to save ourselves against one of the largest armies in the world, against missiles, bombs, artillery, planes, helicopters, that russia are ready to send. to berlin, they want to go notjust to ukraine, but everywhere. we are fighting the invaders that kill civilians, that kill people who are trying to escape, that burn residential quarters. over three weeks of this war, already 115 children have died.
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the most horrible war in europe since the second world war and i am let's go to westminster now because we are waiting to hear from nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe. we have seen pictures of them earlier today and they were meeting with speaker of they were meeting with speaker of the house and also joined by nazanin's local mp, who has been a leading campaignerfor her nazanin's local mp, who has been a leading campaigner for her release. this is the first time we will have heard from nazanin directly, the first time since her release from iran last week. she was held for almost six years after being accused of espionage. it is something she denied and the focus around the campaign for her release was often on her husband richard, sitting beside her now, whose campaign was
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very effective in getting her release. we can hear the mp speaking now. i release. we can hear the mp speaking now. ., release. we can hear the mp speaking now. . ., _ release. we can hear the mp speaking now. . ., ., ~ release. we can hear the mp speaking now. . ., . ~ i., , now. i wanted to say thank you first of all to the — now. i wanted to say thank you first of all to the speaker's _ now. i wanted to say thank you first of all to the speaker's office i now. i wanted to say thank you first of all to the speaker's office for i of all to the speaker's office for hosting this press conference and welcoming us to parliament early on and welcoming nazanin, richard and gabriella. i know a lot of people have to be thanked for this campaign because it took six long years to bring nazanin back. i think they will find lots of people, but i want to take a minute, if that is ok, to pay tribute to my constituents. my constituents here today are an ordinary family who were thrust into extraordinary circumstances and they rose to the challenge. i wanted to take...
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richard is known for his relentless campaigning, nazanin is known for her immense strength in the faith of huge adversity. and little gabriella is known to be a brave soul. it was a family who never lost hope. that is why i am so pleased to welcome them to their first press conference. the reason why they are here is because the foreign office and officials worked really hard to bring them back. i thank them for that but i also want to say that i owe it to nazanin to ask questions about why it took so long to bring nazanin back and why their debt wasn't paid for so long, which we know was key to releasing nazanin. i have written to the chair of the foreign affairs select committee to act for a review into what happened
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in nazanin's case. the two things i will be asking is, an incident that took place in 2013 when three iranians officials came to heathrow to negotiate the repayment of the historic debt that we owe iran, or od iran, it has now been paid. they were arrested at heathrow airport and detain. i spoke to jack straw yesterday, who said he never got to the bottom of why that happened. he said he firmly believes that that contributed to people in the iranian regime wanting to take matters into their own hands and take direct action for the payment of the debt. the second thing i want to ask is why there was a deal made last year, which fell through and the money wasn't paid. i want to know why the deal fell through,
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wasn't paid. i want to know why the dealfell through, why it wasn't paid. i want to know why the deal fell through, why it took so long to pay the debt and i want to look at the wider issue of taking hostages, which iran has done. speaking on the topic of taking hostages, nazanin has asked roxanne to baz to be on the panel with us. she is the daughter of a man still detained in iran. his last known address was in my constituency, but roxanne's mp is here today. that leaves me to say, please wear a face covering if you are able to and he are not speaking. if you are speaking, it is ok. in terms then i will ask nazanin to speak and then i will ask roxanne to speak. we will take questions after that. when you are asking a question i would be grateful if you could stand up and
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ask a question and there will be a roving microphone that will come to. can i finish by saying gently, that nazanin has just can i finish by saying gently, that nazanin hasjust come can i finish by saying gently, that nazanin has just come out of six years of immense trauma. if you have a very political questions, please direct them to the politician on the panel or to richard. thank you. i will now hand over to richard ratcliffe. ., ~ will now hand over to richard ratcliffe. ., ,, , ., will now hand over to richard ratcliffe. ., ~' , ., , ., will now hand over to richard ratcliffe. ., ,, , ., , ., , ., ratcliffe. thank you everyone, you don't want — ratcliffe. thank you everyone, you don't want to _ ratcliffe. thank you everyone, you don't want to hear _ ratcliffe. thank you everyone, you don't want to hear from _ ratcliffe. thank you everyone, you don't want to hear from me, i ratcliffe. thank you everyone, you don't want to hear from me, you i ratcliffe. thank you everyone, you i don't want to hear from me, you have heard _ don't want to hear from me, you have heard from _ don't want to hear from me, you have heard from me plenty in these last six years— heard from me plenty in these last six years and it is nice to be retiring, _ six years and it is nice to be retiring, in— six years and it is nice to be retiring, in that sense. it has been a long _ retiring, in that sense. it has been a long struggle. yeah, i am immensely pleased and proud of my wife, proud — immensely pleased and proud of my wife, proud to have her home and proudly— wife, proud to have her home and proudly start a new chapter and get to be _ proudly start a new chapter and get to be a _ proudly start a new chapter and get to be a normal family again. two things— to be a normal family again. two things i_ to be a normal family again. two things i wanted to say, there are lots of— things i wanted to say, there are lots of thank youse to say, a bit like a _ lots of thank youse to say, a bit like a green's speech at a wedding. so thank—
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like a green's speech at a wedding. so thank you to everyone in parliament. thank you to the government, first. the foreign secretary— government, first. the foreign secretary did promise to get nazanin home, _ secretary did promise to get nazanin home, and _ secretary did promise to get nazanin home, and she did. it has been a long _ home, and she did. it has been a long struggle, lots of foreign office — long struggle, lots of foreign office staff have been working behind—the—scenes. we haven't always agreed, _ behind—the—scenes. we haven't always agreed, i_ behind—the—scenes. we haven't always agreed, i have been rude enough in public— agreed, i have been rude enough in public a _ agreed, i have been rude enough in public a point about them, but we had a _ public a point about them, but we had a lovely three days with them after— had a lovely three days with them after nazanin came home, very nurturing. _ after nazanin came home, very nurturing, very caring. very kind people — nurturing, very caring. very kind people. they got her home, so it is for us, _ people. they got her home, so it is for us, over~ — people. they got her home, so it is for us, over~ a— people. they got her home, so it is for us, over. a new chapter, a process— for us, over. a new chapter, a process of— for us, over. a new chapter, a process of healing and recovery and getting _ process of healing and recovery and getting back to normal. we have just been in _ getting back to normal. we have just been in the _ getting back to normal. we have just been in the speaker's office, six years— been in the speaker's office, six years ago— been in the speaker's office, six years ago we wouldn't have been treated _ years ago we wouldn't have been treated with this grandeur and reception that is here. it is a great — reception that is here. it is a
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great honour. i am really grateful to tulip, — great honour. i am really grateful to tulip, to — great honour. i am really grateful to tulip, to all of the mp5 who have battled _ to tulip, to all of the mp5 who have battled for — to tulip, to all of the mp5 who have battled for nazanin. one of the things— battled for nazanin. one of the things that was really striking on wednesday at the debate in parliament when nazanin was on the plane, _ parliament when nazanin was on the plane. was— parliament when nazanin was on the plane, was actually on all sides, people _ plane, was actually on all sides, people were pleased. people recognised our injustice, people battled — recognised our injustice, people battled it — recognised our injustice, people battled it and pushed the government to be honest and i am hugely grateful— to be honest and i am hugely grateful for the care and support. that came — grateful for the care and support. that came because lots of people in the media _ that came because lots of people in the media kept nazanin in the light, in different ways and at different times— in different ways and at different times and kept our family story. it came _ times and kept our family story. it came because lots of people up and down _ came because lots of people up and down the _ came because lots of people up and down the country followed our story and cared — down the country followed our story and cared. with campaigning, there is a
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and cared. with campaigning, there isa poem— and cared. with campaigning, there is a poem called about waiting. it feels _ is a poem called about waiting. it feels like — is a poem called about waiting. it feels like i— is a poem called about waiting. it feels like i have spent six years conspicuously waiting and lots and lots of _ conspicuously waiting and lots and lots of people have waited with us. that waiting has kept us safe and here we — that waiting has kept us safe and here we are. thank you to everyone who has _ here we are. thank you to everyone who has been part of bringing nazanin — who has been part of bringing nazanin home and making us whole again _ nazanin home and making us whole again the — nazanin home and making us whole again. the other thing i have to say, _ again. the other thing i have to say, it— again. the other thing i have to say, it is— again. the other thing i have to say, it is baby steps, baby steps for us _ say, it is baby steps, baby steps for us as— say, it is baby steps, baby steps for us as a — say, it is baby steps, baby steps for us as a family on the journey back— for us as a family on the journey back to — for us as a family on the journey back to normal. and i have promised nazanin, _ back to normal. and i have promised nazanin, that any question she doesn't — nazanin, that any question she doesn't want to answer, she doesn't have too _ doesn't want to answer, she doesn't have too. there is a lovely reunion. i have too. there is a lovely reunion. i am _ have too. there is a lovely reunion. i am super— have too. there is a lovely reunion. i am super proud of her strength and her survival — i am super proud of her strength and her survival and her grace.
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i am super proud of her strength and her survivaland her grace. i i am super proud of her strength and her survivaland her grace. lam so pleased _ her survivaland her grace. lam so pleased she — her survivaland her grace. lam so pleased she is back home with me and she came _ pleased she is back home with me and she came home to us. we are still negotiating — she came home to us. we are still negotiating with a daddy is allowed in the _ negotiating with a daddy is allowed in the same bed as gabriella and nazanin — in the same bed as gabriella and nazanin. we will get there. we will heal and _ nazanin. we will get there. we will heal and i— nazanin. we will get there. we will heal and i do feel, as we have roxanne — heal and i do feel, as we have roxanne here today as her family's journey _ roxanne here today as her family's journey continues. but this is my retirement— journey continues. but this is my retirement day and i am thankful that it _ retirement day and i am thankful that it has — retirement day and i am thankful that it has come. thank you all. applause — that it has come. thank you all. applause _ thank you very much, richard. that leaves me to ask nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe to speak. i leaves me to ask nazanin zaghari-ratcliffe to speak. i would like to begin _ zaghari-ratcliffe to speak. i would
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like to begin by — zaghari-ratcliffe to speak. i would like to begin by saying _ zaghari-ratcliffe to speak. i would like to begin by saying that i i zaghari-ratcliffe to speak. i would like to begin by saying that i am i like to begin by saying that i am very grateful _ like to begin by saying that i am very grateful to _ like to begin by saying that i am very grateful to whoever - like to begin by saying that i am very grateful to whoever has i like to begin by saying that i am i very grateful to whoever has been involved _ very grateful to whoever has been involved in — very grateful to whoever has been involved in getting _ very grateful to whoever has been involved in getting us _ very grateful to whoever has been involved in getting us home, i very grateful to whoever has been. involved in getting us home, media members. — involved in getting us home, media members, politicians, _ involved in getting us home, media members, politicians, who - involved in getting us home, media| members, politicians, who however has been _ members, politicians, who however has been trying _ members, politicians, who however has been trying very— members, politicians, who however has been trying very hard _ members, politicians, who however has been trying very hard to - members, politicians, who however has been trying very hard to get - members, politicians, who however has been trying very hard to get our voices— has been trying very hard to get our voices heard — has been trying very hard to get our voices heard i_ has been trying very hard to get our voices heard. iwant— has been trying very hard to get our voices heard. i want to _ has been trying very hard to get our voices heard. i want to begin- has been trying very hard to get our voices heard. i want to begin with l voices heard. i want to begin with thanking, — voices heard. i want to begin with thanking, i— voices heard. i want to begin with thanking, i will_ voices heard. i want to begin with thanking, i will not— voices heard. i want to begin with thanking, i will not be _ voices heard. i want to begin with thanking, i will not be able - voices heard. i want to begin with thanking, i will not be able to - thanking, i will not be able to thank— thanking, i will not be able to thank everybody, _ thanking, i will not be able to thank everybody, but - thanking, i will not be able to thank everybody, but i - thanking, i will not be able to thank everybody, but i am . thanking, i will not be able to i thank everybody, but i am going thanking, i will not be able to - thank everybody, but i am going to categorise — thank everybody, but i am going to categorise my— thank everybody, but i am going to categorise my family _ thank everybody, but i am going to categorise my family in _ thank everybody, but i am going to categorise my family in the - thank everybody, but i am going to categorise my family in the uk - thank everybody, but i am going to| categorise my family in the uk have been really— categorise my family in the uk have been really supportive. _ categorise my family in the uk have been really supportive. my- categorise my family in the uk have been really supportive. my family . categorise my family in the uk havei been really supportive. my family in iran, been really supportive. my family in iron, who _ been really supportive. my family in iran, who wanted _ been really supportive. my family in iran, who wanted to— been really supportive. my family in iran, who wanted to speak- been really supportive. my family in iran, who wanted to speak up, - been really supportive. my family in iran, who wanted to speak up, but i iran, who wanted to speak up, but the situation — iran, who wanted to speak up, but the situation in _ iran, who wanted to speak up, but the situation in iran— iran, who wanted to speak up, but the situation in iran is— iran, who wanted to speak up, but the situation in iran is very- the situation in iran is very difficult, _ the situation in iran is very difficult, they— the situation in iran is very difficult, they would - the situation in iran is very difficult, they would have i the situation in iran is very- difficult, they would have been under— difficult, they would have been under pressure _ difficult, they would have been under pressure not _ difficult, they would have been under pressure not to - difficult, they would have been under pressure not to speak i difficult, they would have been . under pressure not to speak about your rights, — under pressure not to speak about your rights, thankfully _ under pressure not to speak about your rights, thankfully we - under pressure not to speak about your rights, thankfully we had - under pressure not to speak about your rights, thankfully we had my| your rights, thankfully we had my amazing, — your rights, thankfully we had my amazing, wonderful— your rights, thankfully we had my amazing, wonderful husband - your rights, thankfully we had my amazing, wonderful husband to l your rights, thankfully we had myl amazing, wonderful husband to do thatiob _ amazing, wonderful husband to do thatiob i— amazing, wonderful husband to do thatiob iwant— amazing, wonderful husband to do that job. i want to _ amazing, wonderful husband to do that job. i want to thank _
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amazing, wonderful husband to do that job. i want to thank all - amazing, wonderful husband to do that job. i want to thank all my- that job. i want to thank all my friends — that job. i want to thank all my friends as— that job. i want to thank all my friends as well— that job. i want to thank all my friends as well in _ that job. i want to thank all my friends as well in iran, - that job. i want to thank all my friends as well in iran, who - that job. i want to thank all my. friends as well in iran, who have sopported — friends as well in iran, who have sopported nrem _ friends as well in iran, who have supported me... [it— friends as well in iran, who have supported me...— friends as well in iran, who have supported me... it is time to say aoodb e supported me... it is time to say goodbye to _ supported me... it is time to say goodbye to viewers _ supported me... it is time to say goodbye to viewers on _ supported me... it is time to say goodbye to viewers on bbc - supported me... it is time to say goodbye to viewers on bbc two, | supported me... it is time to say - goodbye to viewers on bbc two, thank you forjoining us. goodbye to viewers on bbc two, thank you forjoining us— you forjoining us. thank you for keein: you forjoining us. thank you for keeping me _ you forjoining us. thank you for keeping me upbeat. _ you forjoining us. thank you for keeping me upbeat. i _ you forjoining us. thank you for keeping me upbeat. i also - you forjoining us. thank you for keeping me upbeat. i also want| you forjoining us. thank you for l keeping me upbeat. i also want to thank— keeping me upbeat. i also want to thank the — keeping me upbeat. i also want to thank the medical— keeping me upbeat. i also want to thank the medical team _ keeping me upbeat. i also want to thank the medical team in - keeping me upbeat. i also want to thank the medical team in iran- keeping me upbeat. i also want toi thank the medical team in iran who have been— thank the medical team in iran who have been looking _ thank the medical team in iran who have been looking after _ thank the medical team in iran who have been looking after me. - thank the medical team in iran who have been looking after me. it - thank the medical team in iran who have been looking after me. it was| have been looking after me. it was an amazing — have been looking after me. it was an amazing experience _ have been looking after me. it was an amazing experience to - have been looking after me. it was an amazing experience to think- have been looking after me. it was i an amazing experience to think about who knew— an amazing experience to think about who knew me — an amazing experience to think about who knew me through _ an amazing experience to think about who knew me through the _ an amazing experience to think about who knew me through the media, - an amazing experience to think about| who knew me through the media, just to be looking — who knew me through the media, just to be looking after— who knew me through the media, just to be looking after me _ who knew me through the media, just to be looking after me when _ who knew me through the media, just to be looking after me when i- who knew me through the media, just to be looking after me when i was- to be looking after me when i was under— to be looking after me when i was under house — to be looking after me when i was under house arrest _ to be looking after me when i was under house arrest and _ to be looking after me when i was under house arrest and when - to be looking after me when i was under house arrest and when i- to be looking after me when i was. under house arrest and when i came out of— under house arrest and when i came out of it. _ under house arrest and when i came out of it. just — under house arrest and when i came out of it. just to _ under house arrest and when i came out of it, just to give _ under house arrest and when i came out of it, just to give me _ under house arrest and when i came out of it, just to give me medical- out of it, just to give me medical support— out of it, just to give me medical support and _ out of it, just to give me medical support and advice. _ out of it, just to give me medical support and advice. i _ out of it, just to give me medical support and advice. i would - out of it, just to give me medical support and advice. i would like i out of it, just to give me medical. support and advice. i would like to thank— support and advice. i would like to thank the — support and advice. i would like to thank the members, _ support and advice. i would like to thank the members, family- support and advice. i would like to i thank the members, family members are prisoners — thank the members, family members are prisoners in — thank the members, family members are prisoners in iran, _ thank the members, family members are prisoners in iran, who— thank the members, family members are prisoners in iran, who i _ thank the members, family members are prisoners in iran, who i happen. are prisoners in iran, who i happen to be— are prisoners in iran, who i happen to be very— are prisoners in iran, who i happen to be very close _ are prisoners in iran, who i happen to be very close with, _ are prisoners in iran, who i happen to be very close with, just - are prisoners in iran, who i happen to be very close with, just like - to be very close with, just like ro>
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my amazing lawyer in iran. he has been campaigning me to the courtj my amazing lawyer in iran. he has - been campaigning me to the court and feartessty— been campaigning me to the court and feartessty fighting _ been campaigning me to the court and fearlessly fighting for _ been campaigning me to the court and fearlessly fighting for my _ been campaigning me to the court and fearlessly fighting for my release. - fearlessly fighting for my release. there _ fearlessly fighting for my release. there is _ fearlessly fighting for my release. there is very— fearlessly fighting for my release. there is very little _ fearlessly fighting for my release. there is very little lawyers - fearlessly fighting for my release. there is very little lawyers in - fearlessly fighting for my release. there is very little lawyers in iran| there is very little lawyers in iran can do— there is very little lawyers in iran can do with — there is very little lawyers in iran can do with regards _ there is very little lawyers in iran can do with regards to _ there is very little lawyers in iran can do with regards to human - there is very little lawyers in iran- can do with regards to human rights, but i can do with regards to human rights, but i think— can do with regards to human rights, but i think he — can do with regards to human rights, but i think he has— can do with regards to human rights, but i think he has been— can do with regards to human rights, but i think he has beenjust - can do with regards to human rights, but i think he has beenjust amazingi but i think he has beenjust amazing throughout— but i think he has beenjust amazing throughout that _ but i think he has beenjust amazing throughout that journey. _ but i think he has beenjust amazing throughout that journey. and - but i think he has beenjust amazing throughout that journey. and the i throughout that journey. and the least, _ throughout that journey. and the least, but — throughout that journey. and the least, but not _ throughout that journey. and the least, but not last, _ throughout that journey. and the least, but not last, my— throughout that journey. and the least, but not last, my amazing i least, but not last, my amazing husband — least, but not last, my amazing husband who _ least, but not last, my amazing husband who has _ least, but not last, my amazing husband who has been- least, but not last, my amazingi husband who has been tirelessly campaigning _ husband who has been tirelessly campaigning for— husband who has been tirelessly campaigning for me, _ husband who has been tirelessly campaigning for me, so - husband who has been tirelessly campaigning for me, so thank. husband who has been tirelessly. campaigning for me, so thank you very much — campaigning for me, so thank you very much and _ campaigning for me, so thank you very much. and my— campaigning for me, so thank you very much. and my daughter, - campaigning for me, so thank you l very much. and my daughter, being very much. and my daughter, being very patient — very much. and my daughter, being very patient for— very much. and my daughter, being very patient for mummy— very much. and my daughter, being very patient for mummy waiting - very much. and my daughter, being very patient for mummy waiting to i very patient for mummy waiting to come _ very patient for mummy waiting to come home — very patient for mummy waiting to come home i_ very patient for mummy waiting to come home. i want _ very patient for mummy waiting to come home. i want to— very patient for mummy waiting to come home. i want to mention - very patient for mummy waiting to| come home. i want to mention one thing. _ come home. i want to mention one thing. i_ come home. i want to mention one thing. i believe _ come home. i want to mention one thing, i believe the _ come home. i want to mention one thing, i believe the meaning - come home. i want to mention one thing, i believe the meaning of- thing, i believe the meaning of freedom — thing, i believe the meaning of freedom is— thing, i believe the meaning of freedom is never— thing, i believe the meaning of freedom is never going - thing, i believe the meaning of freedom is never going to- thing, i believe the meaning of freedom is never going to be . freedom is never going to be complete _ freedom is never going to be complete until— freedom is never going to be complete until such - freedom is never going to be complete until such time - freedom is never going to be| complete until such time that freedom is never going to be - complete until such time that all of us who— complete until such time that all of us who are — complete until such time that all of us who are unjustly _ complete until such time that all of us who are unjustly detained - complete until such time that all of us who are unjustly detained in - complete until such time that all of| us who are unjustly detained in iran are reunited — us who are unjustly detained in iran are reunited with _ us who are unjustly detained in iran are reunited with our— us who are unjustly detained in iran are reunited with our families. - us who are unjustly detained in iran are reunited with our families. to. are reunited with our families. to begin— are reunited with our families. to begin with. — are reunited with our families. to begin with, roxanne's _ are reunited with our families. to begin with, roxanne's family - are reunited with our families. to begin with, roxanne's family and j are reunited with our families. to- begin with, roxanne's family and the other— begin with, roxanne's family and the other dual— begin with, roxanne's family and the other dual nationals, _ begin with, roxanne's family and the other dual nationals, members - begin with, roxanne's family and the other dual nationals, members of- other dual nationals, members of religious— other dual nationals, members of religious groups. _ other dual nationals, members of religious groups, prisoners - other dual nationals, members of religious groups, prisoners of- religious groups, prisoners of conscience _ religious groups, prisoners of conscience if— religious groups, prisoners of conscience. if i— religious groups, prisoners of conscience. if i have - religious groups, prisoners of conscience. if i have been - conscience. if i have been imprisoned _ conscience. if i have been imprisoned for— conscience. if i have been imprisoned for six - conscience. if i have been imprisoned for six years, i conscience. if i have been - imprisoned for six years, there are so many— imprisoned for six years, there are so many other— imprisoned for six years, there are so many other people, _ imprisoned for six years, there are so many other people, we - imprisoned for six years, there are so many other people, we do - imprisoned for six years, there are so many other people, we do not i imprisoned for six years, there are - so many other people, we do not know their names, _
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so many other people, we do not know their names, who— so many other people, we do not know their names, who have _ so many other people, we do not know their names, who have been _ so many other people, we do not know their names, who have been sufferingi their names, who have been suffering in prison— their names, who have been suffering in prison in— their names, who have been suffering in prison in iran~ — their names, who have been suffering in prison in iran. the _ their names, who have been suffering in prison in iran. the justice _ their names, who have been suffering in prison in iran. the justice in - in prison in iran. the justice in iran— in prison in iran. the justice in iran not— in prison in iran. the justice in iran not have _ in prison in iran. the justice in iran not have beginning. - in prison in iran. the justice in iran not have beginning. you i in prison in iran. the justice in . iran not have beginning. you are given— iran not have beginning. you are given the — iran not have beginning. you are given the unfair— iran not have beginning. you are given the unfair trial, _ iran not have beginning. you are given the unfair trial, if - iran not have beginning. you are given the unfair trial, if you - iran not have beginning. you are given the unfair trial, if you are i given the unfair trial, if you are lucky— given the unfair trial, if you are lucky you — given the unfair trial, if you are lucky you will _ given the unfair trial, if you are lucky you will be _ given the unfair trial, if you are lucky you will be picked - given the unfair trial, if you are lucky you will be picked up - given the unfair trial, if you are lucky you will be picked up by. given the unfair trial, if you are lucky you will be picked up by a semi-fair— lucky you will be picked up by a semi—fairjudge, _ lucky you will be picked up by a semi—fairjudge, but— lucky you will be picked up by a semi—fairjudge, but in- lucky you will be picked up by a semi—fairjudge, but in most. lucky you will be picked up by a - semi—fairjudge, but in most cases, you are _ semi—fairjudge, but in most cases, you are not — semi—fairjudge, but in most cases, you are not tucky _ semi—fairjudge, but in most cases, you are not lucky. the _ semi—fairjudge, but in most cases, you are not lucky. the journey- semi—fairjudge, but in most cases, you are not lucky. the journey back| you are not lucky. the journey back home _ you are not lucky. the journey back home was — you are not lucky. the journey back home was tough _ you are not lucky. the journey back home was tough. i _ you are not lucky. the journey back home was tough. i thank _ you are not lucky. the journey back home was tough. i thank the - you are not lucky. the journey back. home was tough. i thank the foreign secretary _ home was tough. i thank the foreign secretary i— home was tough. i thank the foreign secretary ido— home was tough. i thank the foreign secretary. i do not— home was tough. i thank the foreign secretary. i do not agree _ home was tough. i thank the foreign secretary. i do not agree with- home was tough. i thank the foreign secretary. i do not agree with him i secretary. i do not agree with him on that— secretary. i do not agree with him on that tevet~ _ secretary. i do not agree with him on that level. i— secretary. i do not agree with him on that level. i am _ secretary. i do not agree with him on that level. i am going - secretary. i do not agree with him on that level. i am going to- secretary. i do not agree with him on that level. i am going to tell. on that level. i am going to tell you that — on that level. i am going to tell you that because _ on that level. i am going to tell you that because i— on that level. i am going to tell you that because i have - on that level. i am going to tell you that because i have seen i on that level. i am going to tell. you that because i have seen five foreign _ you that because i have seen five foreign secretaries _ you that because i have seen five foreign secretaries change - you that because i have seen five foreign secretaries change over. you that because i have seen five l foreign secretaries change over the course _ foreign secretaries change over the course of— foreign secretaries change over the course of six — foreign secretaries change over the course of six years. _ foreign secretaries change over the course of six years. that _ foreign secretaries change over the course of six years. that is - course of six years. that is unprecedented, _ course of six years. that is unprecedented, given- course of six years. that is unprecedented, given thei course of six years. that is - unprecedented, given the politics of the uk _ unprecedented, given the politics of the uk i_ unprecedented, given the politics of the uk itove — unprecedented, given the politics of the uk. i love you _ unprecedented, given the politics of the uk. i love you richard, - unprecedented, given the politics of the uk. i love you richard, respecti the uk. i love you richard, respect what _ the uk. i love you richard, respect what you _ the uk. i love you richard, respect what you believe, _ the uk. i love you richard, respect what you believe, but _ the uk. i love you richard, respect what you believe, but i— the uk. i love you richard, respect what you believe, but i was - the uk. i love you richard, respect what you believe, but i was told i what you believe, but i was told many _ what you believe, but i was told many times, _ what you believe, but i was told manytimes. we— what you believe, but i was told many times, we are _ what you believe, but i was told many times, we are going - what you believe, but i was told many times, we are going to i what you believe, but i was toldi many times, we are going to get what you believe, but i was told - many times, we are going to get you home _ many times, we are going to get you home that— many times, we are going to get you home. that never— many times, we are going to get you home. that never happened. - many times, we are going to get you home. that never happened. there i many times, we are going to get you i home. that never happened. there was a time _ home. that never happened. there was a time i_ home. that never happened. there was a time i felt _ home. that never happened. there was a time i felt like, — home. that never happened. there was a time i felt like, i— home. that never happened. there was a time i felt like, i am _ home. that never happened. there was a time i felt like, i am not _ home. that never happened. there was a time i felt like, i am not going - a time i felt like, i am not going to trust— a time i felt like, i am not going to trust you _ a time i felt like, i am not going to trust you because _ a time i felt like, i am not going to trust you because i— a time i felt like, i am not going to trust you because i have - a time i felt like, i am not going| to trust you because i have been told many— to trust you because i have been told many times _ to trust you because i have been told many times that _ to trust you because i have been told many times that i _ to trust you because i have been told many times that i am - to trust you because i have been told many times that i am going| to trust you because i have been . told many times that i am going to
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be taken _ told many times that i am going to be taken home _ told many times that i am going to be taken home. how— told many times that i am going to be taken home. how many- told many times that i am going to be taken home. how many foreign secretary— be taken home. how many foreign secretary does _ be taken home. how many foreign secretary does it _ be taken home. how many foreign secretary does it take _ be taken home. how many foreign secretary does it take for - be taken home. how many foreignj secretary does it take for someone to come _ secretary does it take for someone to come home? _ secretary does it take for someone to come home? five? _ secretary does it take for someone to come home? five? you - secretary does it take for someone to come home? five? you should. secretary does it take for someone - to come home? five? you should have been one _ to come home? five? you should have been one of— to come home? five? you should have been one of them _ to come home? five? you should have been one of them eventually. - to come home? five? you should have been one of them eventually. now, - been one of them eventually. now, here we _ been one of them eventually. now, here we are — been one of them eventually. now, here we are. what _ been one of them eventually. now, here we are. what happened - been one of them eventually. now, here we are. what happened now. here we are. what happened now shoutd _ here we are. what happened now should have — here we are. what happened now should have happened _ here we are. what happened now should have happened six- here we are. what happened now should have happened six years i here we are. what happened now. should have happened six years ago. we att— should have happened six years ago. we all know— should have happened six years ago. we all know that _ should have happened six years ago. we all know that this _ should have happened six years ago. we all know that this is, _ should have happened six years ago. we all know that this is, i— should have happened six years ago. we all know that this is, i am - we all know that this is, i am assuming _ we all know that this is, i am assuming this— we all know that this is, i am assuming this is— we all know that this is, i am assuming this is going - we all know that this is, i am assuming this is going to- we all know that this is, i am assuming this is going to be. we all know that this is, i am - assuming this is going to be public knowledge, — assuming this is going to be public knowledge, how— assuming this is going to be public knowledge, how i _ assuming this is going to be public knowledge, how i came _ assuming this is going to be public knowledge, how i came home. - assuming this is going to be public knowledge, how i came home. i. assuming this is going to be public. knowledge, how i came home. i don't know— knowledge, how i came home. i don't know the _ knowledge, how i came home. i don't know the details, _ knowledge, how i came home. i don't know the details, but _ knowledge, how i came home. i don't know the details, but what _ knowledge, how i came home. i don't know the details, but what got - knowledge, how i came home. i don't know the details, but what got me . know the details, but what got me home _ know the details, but what got me home now— know the details, but what got me home now on _ know the details, but what got me home now on the _ know the details, but what got me home now on the very— know the details, but what got me home now on the very same - know the details, but what got me home now on the very same day, i know the details, but what got me . home now on the very same day, the 17th of— home now on the very same day, the 17th of march — home now on the very same day, the 17th of march 2022, _ home now on the very same day, the 17th of march 2022, it _ home now on the very same day, the 17th of march 2022, it is _ home now on the very same day, the 17th of march 2022, it is the - home now on the very same day, the 17th of march 2022, it is the same i 17th of march 2022, it is the same day i _ 17th of march 2022, it is the same day i left — 17th of march 2022, it is the same day i left london, _ 17th of march 2022, it is the same day i left london, 17th— 17th of march 2022, it is the same day i left london, 17th of- 17th of march 2022, it is the same day i left london, 17th of 2016 - 17th of march 2022, it is the same day i left london, 17th of 2016 on| day i left london, 17th of 2016 on holiday— day i left london, 17th of 2016 on holiday and — day i left london, 17th of 2016 on holiday and they _ day i left london, 17th of 2016 on holiday and they never _ day i left london, 17th of 2016 on holiday and they never returned i day i left london, 17th of 2016 on i holiday and they never returned on the flight _ holiday and they never returned on the flight i — holiday and they never returned on the flight i was _ holiday and they never returned on the flight i was coming _ holiday and they never returned on the flight i was coming back- holiday and they never returned on the flight i was coming back home | the flight i was coming back home on. the flight i was coming back home 0h it— the flight i was coming back home 0h it should — the flight i was coming back home on. it should have _ the flight i was coming back home on. it should have happened - the flight i was coming back home on. it should have happened six . on. it should have happened six years— on. it should have happened six years ago. — on. it should have happened six years ago. i— on. it should have happened six years ago, i shouldn't _ on. it should have happened six years ago, i shouldn't have - on. it should have happened six| years ago, i shouldn't have been on. it should have happened six i years ago, i shouldn't have been in years ago, ishouldn't have been in prison— years ago, ishouldn't have been in prison for— years ago, i shouldn't have been in prison for six — years ago, i shouldn't have been in prison for six years. _ years ago, i shouldn't have been in prison for six years. we _ years ago, i shouldn't have been in prison for six years. we have - years ago, i shouldn't have been in prison for six years. we have gone| prison for six years. we have gone through— prison for six years. we have gone through a — prison for six years. we have gone through a lot, _ prison for six years. we have gone through a lot, it— prison for six years. we have gone through a lot, it has— prison for six years. we have gone through a lot, it has been- prison for six years. we have gone through a lot, it has been a - prison for six years. we have gone through a lot, it has been a toughi through a lot, it has been a tough jourhey~ _ through a lot, it has been a tough journey the _ through a lot, it has been a tough journey. the coming _ through a lot, it has been a tough journey. the coming back- through a lot, it has been a tough journey. the coming back was - through a lot, it has been a toughl journey. the coming back was also very tough — journey. the coming back was also
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very tough you _ journey. the coming back was also very tough. you realise _ journey. the coming back was also very tough. you realise that - journey. the coming back was also very tough. you realise that you i journey. the coming back was alsoi very tough. you realise that you are comihg _ very tough. you realise that you are comihg back— very tough. you realise that you are comihg back to _ very tough. you realise that you are comihg back to a _ very tough. you realise that you are coming back to a daughter- very tough. you realise that you are coming back to a daughter who - very tough. you realise that you are coming back to a daughter who is l coming back to a daughter who is nearly— coming back to a daughter who is hearty eight~ _ coming back to a daughter who is hearty eight i— coming back to a daughter who is nearly eight. i left _ coming back to a daughter who is nearly eight. i left her— coming back to a daughter who is nearly eight. i left her when - coming back to a daughter who is nearly eight. i left her when she. nearly eight. i left her when she was hot — nearly eight. i left her when she was not even _ nearly eight. i left her when she was not even two. _ nearly eight. i left her when she was not even two. there - nearly eight. i left her when she was not even two. there is - nearly eight. i left her when she was not even two. there is a - nearly eight. i left her when she i was not even two. there is a whole lot was not even two. there is a whole tot to _ was not even two. there is a whole tot to catch — was not even two. there is a whole tot to catch up _ was not even two. there is a whole lot to catch up with _ was not even two. there is a whole lot to catch up with richard - was not even two. there is a whole lot to catch up with richard and - lot to catch up with richard and gabriella — lot to catch up with richard and gabriella i— lot to catch up with richard and gabriella. i am _ lot to catch up with richard and gabriella. i am getting - lot to catch up with richard and gabriella. i am getting to- lot to catch up with richard and gabriella. i am getting to know| lot to catch up with richard and - gabriella. i am getting to know them better _ gabriella. i am getting to know them better i— gabriella. i am getting to know them better i would — gabriella. i am getting to know them better. i would appreciate _ gabriella. i am getting to know them better. i would appreciate the - better. i would appreciate the privacy — better. i would appreciate the privacy and _ better. i would appreciate the privacy and thank _ better. i would appreciate the privacy and thank you - better. i would appreciate the privacy and thank you very, . better. i would appreciate the . privacy and thank you very, very much _ privacy and thank you very, very much i— privacy and thank you very, very much. i should _ privacy and thank you very, very much. i should really— privacy and thank you very, very much. i should really thank- privacy and thank you very, very much. i should really thank the i much. i should really thank the media — much. i should really thank the media members, _ much. i should really thank the media members, because - much. i should really thank the media members, because that| much. i should really thank the i media members, because that is much. i should really thank the - media members, because that is how the world _ media members, because that is how the world happened _ media members, because that is how the world happened to _ media members, because that is how the world happened to know - media members, because that is how the world happened to know my- media members, because that is howl the world happened to know my story. i am grateful— the world happened to know my story. i am grateful for— the world happened to know my story. i am grateful for that. _ the world happened to know my story. i am grateful for that. thank— the world happened to know my story. i am grateful for that. thank you. - i am grateful for that. thank you. could _ i am grateful for that. thank you. could i— i am grateful for that. thank you. could i now— i am grateful for that. thank you. could i now ask— i am grateful for that. thank you. could i now ask roxanne - i am grateful for that. thank you. could i now ask roxanne to - i am grateful for that. thank you. | could i now ask roxanne to speak i am grateful for that. thank you. - could i now ask roxanne to speak and tell her story about her father? firstly, i would like to thank the ratctiff — firstly, i would like to thank the ratcliff family _ firstly, i would like to thank the ratcliff family for— firstly, i would like to thank the ratcliff family for giving - firstly, i would like to thank the ratcliff family for giving me - firstly, i would like to thank the ratcliff family for giving me the | ratcliff family for giving me the piatform — ratcliff family for giving me the ptatform to _ ratcliff family for giving me the platform to share _ ratcliff family for giving me the platform to share my _ ratcliff family for giving me the platform to share my story. - ratcliff family for giving me the platform to share my story. we j ratcliff family for giving me the - platform to share my story. we are genuinely _ platform to share my story. we are genuinely pieased _ platform to share my story. we are genuinely pleased for— platform to share my story. we are genuinely pleased for both - platform to share my story. we are genuinely pleased for both of - platform to share my story. we are genuinely pleased for both of you l genuinely pleased for both of you and your— genuinely pleased for both of you and your extended _ genuinely pleased for both of you and your extended family - genuinely pleased for both of you and your extended family and - genuinely pleased for both of you and your extended family and we | genuinely pleased for both of you - and your extended family and we hope to share _ and your extended family and we hope to share some — and your extended family and we hope to share some of— and your extended family and we hope to share some of their— and your extended family and we hope to share some of their experience - and your extended family and we hope to share some of their experience in. to share some of their experience in the very— to share some of their experience in the very near— to share some of their experience in the very near future. _ to share some of their experience in
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the very near future. my _ to share some of their experience in the very near future. my name - to share some of their experience in the very near future. my name is . the very near future. my name is roxanne. — the very near future. my name is roxanne. it _ the very near future. my name is roxanne, it has _ the very near future. my name is roxanne, it has been _ the very near future. my name is roxanne, it has been over- the very near future. my name is roxanne, it has been over four. the very near future. my name is - roxanne, it has been over four years since _ roxanne, it has been over four years since my— roxanne, it has been over four years since my father— roxanne, it has been over four years since my father was _ roxanne, it has been over four years since my father was detained - roxanne, it has been over four years since my father was detained and - roxanne, it has been over four yearsj since my father was detained and my mother— since my father was detained and my mother was— since my father was detained and my mother was put— since my father was detained and my mother was put on— since my father was detained and my mother was put on a _ since my father was detained and my mother was put on a travel— since my father was detained and my mother was put on a travel ban - mother was put on a travel ban within— mother was put on a travel ban withih irah~ _ mother was put on a travel ban within iran. mazive _ mother was put on a travel ban within iran. mazive can - mother was put on a travel bani within iran. mazive can imagine, mother was put on a travel ban - within iran. mazive can imagine, my siblings— within iran. mazive can imagine, my siblings and — within iran. mazive can imagine, my siblings and i— within iran. mazive can imagine, my siblings and i desperate _ within iran. mazive can imagine, my siblings and i desperate to - within iran. mazive can imagine, my siblings and i desperate to be - siblings and i desperate to be reunited _ siblings and i desperate to be reunited with— siblings and i desperate to be reunited with my _ siblings and i desperate to be reunited with my parents - siblings and i desperate to be reunited with my parents and | siblings and i desperate to be - reunited with my parents and ask why my father— reunited with my parents and ask why my father is _ reunited with my parents and ask why my father is the — reunited with my parents and ask why my father is the only— reunited with my parents and ask why my father is the only uk _ reunited with my parents and ask why my father is the only uk national- my father is the only uk national who has— my father is the only uk national who has been— my father is the only uk national who has been abandoned - my father is the only uk national who has been abandoned and . my father is the only uk nationali who has been abandoned and left behind _ who has been abandoned and left behind there~ _ who has been abandoned and left behind there. my— who has been abandoned and left behind there. my father- who has been abandoned and left behind there. my father was - who has been abandoned and left - behind there. my father was removed from his— behind there. my father was removed from his celi— behind there. my father was removed from his cell yesterday, _ behind there. my father was removed from his cell yesterday, but _ behind there. my father was removed from his cell yesterday, but we - behind there. my father was removed from his cell yesterday, but we have. from his cell yesterday, but we have only from his cell yesterday, but we have ohtyiust _ from his cell yesterday, but we have ohtyiust fouhd — from his cell yesterday, but we have onlyjust found out _ from his cell yesterday, but we have onlyjust found out that _ from his cell yesterday, but we have onlyjust found out that he - from his cell yesterday, but we have onlyjust found out that he has - from his cell yesterday, but we have onlyjust found out that he has beenj onlyjust found out that he has been returned _ onlyjust found out that he has been returned to — onlyjust found out that he has been returned to the _ onlyjust found out that he has been returned to the prison. _ onlyjust found out that he has been returned to the prison. contrary- onlyjust found out that he has been returned to the prison. contrary to i returned to the prison. contrary to the public— returned to the prison. contrary to the public statements _ returned to the prison. contrary to the public statements that - returned to the prison. contrary to the public statements that have i returned to the prison. contrary to i the public statements that have been made, _ the public statements that have been made. he _ the public statements that have been made. he has — the public statements that have been made. he has not _ the public statements that have been made, he has not been _ the public statements that have been made, he has not been reunited - the public statements that have been made, he has not been reunited with| made, he has not been reunited with his family— made, he has not been reunited with his family and — made, he has not been reunited with his family and he _ made, he has not been reunited with his family and he certainly _ made, he has not been reunited with his family and he certainly has - made, he has not been reunited with his family and he certainly has not i his family and he certainly has not been _ his family and he certainly has not been given— his family and he certainly has not been given freedom _ his family and he certainly has not been given freedom as _ his family and he certainly has not been given freedom as part - his family and he certainly has not been given freedom as part of- his family and he certainly has not been given freedom as part of the j been given freedom as part of the deal that— been given freedom as part of the deal that was _ been given freedom as part of the deal that was presented _ been given freedom as part of the deal that was presented to - been given freedom as part of the deal that was presented to us. - been given freedom as part of the | deal that was presented to us. we were _ deal that was presented to us. we were always — deal that was presented to us. we were always assured _ deal that was presented to us. we were always assured that - deal that was presented to us. we were always assured that my- deal that was presented to us. we i were always assured that my father would _ were always assured that my father would be _ were always assured that my father would be included _ were always assured that my father would be included in _ were always assured that my father would be included in any— were always assured that my father would be included in any deal- were always assured that my father would be included in any deal that i would be included in any deal that was made — would be included in any deal that was made to— would be included in any deal that was made to release _ would be included in any deal that was made to release the - would be included in any deal thati was made to release the hostages. would be included in any deal that - was made to release the hostages. we are truly— was made to release the hostages. we are truly devastated _ was made to release the hostages. we are truly devastated that _ was made to release the hostages. we are truly devastated that knowing - are truly devastated that knowing
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now are truly devastated that knowing how this — are truly devastated that knowing how this was _ are truly devastated that knowing now this was not _ are truly devastated that knowing now this was not the _ are truly devastated that knowing now this was not the case. - are truly devastated that knowing | now this was not the case. further to our— now this was not the case. further to our dismay— now this was not the case. further to our dismay we _ now this was not the case. further to our dismay we learned - now this was not the case. further to our dismay we learned he - now this was not the case. further to our dismay we learned he had l now this was not the case. further - to our dismay we learned he had been left behind _ to our dismay we learned he had been left behind through _ to our dismay we learned he had been left behind through the _ to our dismay we learned he had been left behind through the media - to our dismay we learned he had been left behind through the media last- left behind through the media last week _ left behind through the media last week to— left behind through the media last week. to prime _ left behind through the media last week. to prime minister- left behind through the media last week. to prime ministerjohnsoni left behind through the media last. week. to prime ministerjohnson and foreigrr— week. to prime ministerjohnson and foreign secretary— week. to prime ministerjohnson and foreign secretary liz— week. to prime ministerjohnson and foreign secretary liz truss, - week. to prime ministerjohnson and foreign secretary liz truss, stand - foreign secretary liz truss, stand by your— foreign secretary liz truss, stand by your words _ foreign secretary liz truss, stand by your words and _ foreign secretary liz truss, stand by your words and bring _ foreign secretary liz truss, stand by your words and bring back - foreign secretary liz truss, stand| by your words and bring back both foreign secretary liz truss, stand i by your words and bring back both of my parents. — by your words and bring back both of my parents. my— by your words and bring back both of my parents, my father— by your words and bring back both of my parents, my father and _ by your words and bring back both of my parents, my father and my- by your words and bring back both of. my parents, my father and my mother. thank— my parents, my father and my mother. thank you _ my parents, my father and my mother. thank ou. ., ~ my parents, my father and my mother. thank ou. . ,, i. , . thank you. thank you very much. i will take questions _ thank you. thank you very much. i will take questions from _ thank you. thank you very much. i will take questions from the - thank you. thank you very much. i will take questions from the floor. | will take questions from the floor. if you wouldn't mind standing up, a microphone will come to. even if i know you, not everybody will, say your name and which organisation are from. there is a microphone. i am from. there is a microphone. i am actually quite _ from. there is a microphone. i am actually quite loud, _ from. there is a microphone. i am actually quite loud, so? _ from. there is a microphone. iam actually quite loud, so? thank you so much _ actually quite loud, so? thank you so much and — actually quite loud, so? thank you so much and nazanin, it is wonderful, wonderful to see you home _ wonderful, wonderful to see you home i— wonderful, wonderful to see you home. ijust want to start saying that _ home. ijust want to start saying that it _ home. ijust want to start saying
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that it was _ home. ijust want to start saying that. it was a long six years, it was _ that. it was a long six years, it was six — that. it was a long six years, it was six years where he where, apart from _ was six years where he where, apart from richard — was six years where he where, apart from richard and your daughter, who was a _ from richard and your daughter, who was a toddler, the government repeatedly refused to acknowledge the link _ repeatedly refused to acknowledge the link between your imprisonment and the link between your imprisonment ahd that— the link between your imprisonment and that debt, which has now been paid _ and that debt, which has now been paid ahd — and that debt, which has now been paid. and while you must be absolutely delighted to be home, i guess— absolutely delighted to be home, i guess my— absolutely delighted to be home, i guess my question is, do you feel really— guess my question is, do you feel really angry with the government, to, that _ really angry with the government, to, that it— really angry with the government, to, that it took too long? and also, what _ to, that it took too long? and also, what is _ to, that it took too long? and also, what is your— to, that it took too long? and also, what is your message to political prisoners— what is your message to political prisoners that are still left behind? ., �* prisoners that are still left behind?_ l i prisoners that are still left - behind?_ i think the behind? thanks, beth. i think the answer is clear. _ behind? thanks, beth. i think the answer is clear. i _ behind? thanks, beth. i think the answer is clear. i cannot - behind? thanks, beth. i think the answer is clear. i cannot be - answer is clear. i cannot be happier. _ answer is clear. i cannot be happier, happier— answer is clear. i cannot be happier, happier than - answer is clear. i cannot be happier, happier than this i answer is clear. i cannot be i happier, happier than this that answer is clear. i cannot be - happier, happier than this that i am here, _ happier, happier than this that i am here, but— happier, happier than this that i am here, but also, _ happier, happier than this that i am here, but also, like _ happier, happier than this that i am here, but also, like i— happier, happier than this that i am here, but also, like i said, - happier, happier than this that i am here, but also, like i said, this- here, but also, like i said, this should — here, but also, like i said, this should have _ here, but also, like i said, this should have happened - here, but also, like i said, this should have happened six- here, but also, like i said, thisi should have happened six years here, but also, like i said, this- should have happened six years ago. ithink— should have happened six years ago. i think that _ should have happened six years ago. i think that answers _ should have happened six years ago. i think that answers your _
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should have happened six years ago. i think that answers your question, l i think that answers your question, that i— i think that answers your question, that i always — i think that answers your question, that i always felt _ i think that answers your question, that i always felt like _ i think that answers your question, that i always felt like i _ i think that answers your question, that i always felt like i am - i think that answers your question, that i always felt like i am holding i that i always felt like i am holding this black— that i always felt like i am holding this black hole _ that i always felt like i am holding this black hole in— that i always felt like i am holding this black hole in my— that i always felt like i am holding this black hole in my heart - that i always felt like i am holding this black hole in my heart all- this black hole in my heart all these — this black hole in my heart all these years. _ this black hole in my heart all these years, but _ this black hole in my heart all these years, but i— this black hole in my heart all these years, but i am - this black hole in my heart all these years, but i am just - this black hole in my heart all. these years, but i am just going this black hole in my heart all- these years, but i am just going to leave _ these years, but i am just going to leave that — these years, but i am just going to leave that black— these years, but i am just going to leave that black hole _ these years, but i am just going to leave that black hole in _ these years, but i am just going to leave that black hole in my- these years, but i am just going to leave that black hole in my heart, i these years, but i am just going to| leave that black hole in my heart, i am going _ leave that black hole in my heart, i am going to — leave that black hole in my heart, i am going to leave _ leave that black hole in my heart, i am going to leave it _ leave that black hole in my heart, i am going to leave it on _ leave that black hole in my heart, i am going to leave it on the - leave that black hole in my heart, i am going to leave it on the plane l am going to leave it on the plane wheh _ am going to leave it on the plane when it— am going to leave it on the plane when it lands _ am going to leave it on the plane when it lands. i— am going to leave it on the plane when it lands. i am _ am going to leave it on the plane when it lands. i am not— am going to leave it on the plane when it lands. i am not going - am going to leave it on the plane when it lands. i am not going toi when it lands. i am not going to live, _ when it lands. i am not going to live, for— when it lands. i am not going to live, for the _ when it lands. i am not going to live, for the rest— when it lands. i am not going to live, for the rest of— when it lands. i am not going to live, for the rest of my - when it lands. i am not going to live, for the rest of my life - when it lands. i am not going to live, for the rest of my life with| when it lands. i am not going to. live, for the rest of my life with a grudge _ live, for the rest of my life with a grudge over— live, for the rest of my life with a grudge over the _ live, for the rest of my life with a grudge over the past _ live, for the rest of my life with a grudge over the past six - live, for the rest of my life with a grudge over the past six years. . live, for the rest of my life with a grudge over the past six years. it has been — grudge over the past six years. it has been cruel, _ grudge over the past six years. it has been cruel, what _ grudge over the past six years. it has been cruel, what happened l grudge over the past six years. iti has been cruel, what happened to grudge over the past six years. it - has been cruel, what happened to me. but i think _ has been cruel, what happened to me. but i think i— has been cruel, what happened to me. but i think ido— has been cruel, what happened to me. but i think... i do not— has been cruel, what happened to me. but i think... i do not want _ has been cruel, what happened to me. but i think... i do not want to- has been cruel, what happened to me. but i think... i do not want to kind - but i think... i do not want to kind ofm _ but i think... i do not want to kind ofm this — but i think... i do not want to kind of... this moment— but i think... i do not want to kind of... this moment is— but i think... i do not want to kind of... this moment is so— but i think... i do not want to kind of... this moment is so glorious. but i think... i do not want to kind. of... this moment is so glorious for me _ of... this moment is so glorious for me it _ of... this moment is so glorious for me it is _ of... this moment is so glorious for me it is early— of... this moment is so glorious for me. it is early days— of... this moment is so glorious for me. it is early days that _ of... this moment is so glorious for me. it is early days that i _ of... this moment is so glorious for me. it is early days that i have - me. it is early days that i have come — me. it is early days that i have come back _ me. it is early days that i have come back. it _ me. it is early days that i have come back. it is _ me. it is early days that i have come back. it is a _ me. it is early days that i have come back. it is a bit - me. it is early days that i have come back. it is a bit early- me. it is early days that i have come back. it is a bit early to. come back. it is a bit early to think— come back. it is a bit early to think that, _ come back. it is a bit early to think that, to— come back. it is a bit early to think that, to hold _ come back. it is a bit early to think that, to hold onto- come back. it is a bit early to think that, to hold onto thati think that, to hold onto that grudge~ _ think that, to hold onto that grudge~ but _ think that, to hold onto that grudge~ but it— think that, to hold onto that grudge. but it should - think that, to hold onto that grudge. but it should have i think that, to hold onto that - grudge. but it should have happened six years— grudge. but it should have happened six years ago — grudge. but it should have happened six years ago it _ grudge. but it should have happened six years ago. it took _ grudge. but it should have happened six years ago. it took a _ grudge. but it should have happened six years ago. it took a long - grudge. but it should have happened six years ago. it took a long time - six years ago. it took a long time for the _ six years ago. it took a long time for the politicians— six years ago. it took a long time for the politicians to _ six years ago. it took a long time for the politicians to sort - six years ago. it took a long time for the politicians to sort it - six years ago. it took a long time for the politicians to sort it out. i for the politicians to sort it out. i was _ for the politicians to sort it out. i was the —
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for the politicians to sort it out. i was the lucky _ for the politicians to sort it out. i was the lucky one _ for the politicians to sort it out. i was the lucky one who - for the politicians to sort it out. i was the lucky one who got - for the politicians to sort it out. i was the lucky one who got to. for the politicians to sort it out. i i was the lucky one who got to be recognised — i was the lucky one who got to be recognised internationally, - i was the lucky one who got to be recognised internationally, eveni i was the lucky one who got to be i recognised internationally, even the campaign _ recognised internationally, even the campaign which _ recognised internationally, even the campaign which was _ recognised internationally, even the campaign which was running, - recognised internationally, even the campaign which was running, but i recognised internationally, even the campaign which was running, but so marry— campaign which was running, but so many other— campaign which was running, but so many other people _ campaign which was running, but so many other people in _ campaign which was running, but so many other people in prison - campaign which was running, but so many other people in prison that - campaign which was running, but so| many other people in prison that you don't _ many other people in prison that you don't know— many other people in prison that you don't know their— many other people in prison that you don't know their names _ many other people in prison that you don't know their names and - many other people in prison that you don't know their names and they - many other people in prison that youi don't know their names and they have been in _ don't know their names and they have been in prison— don't know their names and they have been in prison for— don't know their names and they have been in prison for longer— don't know their names and they have been in prison for longer years - don't know their names and they have been in prison for longer years than . been in prison for longer years than i have _ been in prison for longer years than i have been — been in prison for longer years than i have been so _ been in prison for longer years than i have been. so i _ been in prison for longer years than i have been. so i think— been in prison for longer years than i have been. so i think regarding, . i have been. so i think regarding, every— i have been. so i think regarding, every person _ i have been. so i think regarding, every person has _ i have been. so i think regarding, every person has got _ i have been. so i think regarding, every person has got the - i have been. so i think regarding, every person has got the right - i have been. so i think regarding, every person has got the right to| i have been. so i think regarding, . every person has got the right to be free and _ every person has got the right to be free and freedom _ every person has got the right to be free and freedom is _ every person has got the right to be free and freedom is something - every person has got the right to be free and freedom is something that| free and freedom is something that has to— free and freedom is something that has to be _ free and freedom is something that has to be given— free and freedom is something that has to be given to _ free and freedom is something that has to be given to people. - free and freedom is something that has to be given to people. i- free and freedom is something that has to be given to people. i think. has to be given to people. i think the world — has to be given to people. i think the world should _ has to be given to people. i think the world should unite _ has to be given to people. i think the world should unite togetheri has to be given to people. i thinki the world should unite together to make _ the world should unite together to make sure — the world should unite together to make sure there _ the world should unite together to make sure there is— the world should unite together to make sure there is no— the world should unite together to make sure there is no one - the world should unite together to make sure there is no one held . make sure there is no one held either— make sure there is no one held either hostage _ make sure there is no one held either hostage or— make sure there is no one held either hostage or in _ make sure there is no one held either hostage or in prison- make sure there is no one held either hostage or in prison for. either hostage or in prison for something _ either hostage or in prison for something they— either hostage or in prison for something they haven't - either hostage or in prison forj something they haven't done. either hostage or in prison for. something they haven't done. [it something they haven't done. it itii-i'lt something they haven't done. might be easier, i will come to something they haven't done.- might be easier, i will come to you next. i might be easier, i will come to you next. ., might be easier, i will come to you next. . ., , . . next. i am from itv news. nazanin, first of all i — next. i am from itv news. nazanin, first of all i hope _ next. i am from itv news. nazanin, first of all i hope you _ next. i am from itv news. nazanin, first of all i hope you understand - first of all i hope you understand 'ust first of all i hope you understand just how— first of all i hope you understand just how delighted everyone is in this country to see you back. hearts have gone _ this country to see you back. hearts have gone out to your family all the way through this and it is wonderful to see _ way through this and it is wonderful to see you — way through this and it is wonderful to see you here.—
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way through this and it is wonderful to see you here._ can - way through this and it is wonderful| to see you here._ can you to see you here. thank you. can you tell us how — to see you here. thank you. can you tell us how much _ to see you here. thank you. can you tell us how much you _ to see you here. thank you. can you tell us how much you were - to see you here. thank you. can you tell us how much you were aware i to see you here. thank you. can you tell us how much you were aware of| tell us how much you were aware of when _ tell us how much you were aware of when you _ tell us how much you were aware of when you are being held, what was going _ when you are being held, what was going on— when you are being held, what was going on in— when you are being held, what was going on in the outside world and the efforts to get you out and perhaps — the efforts to get you out and perhaps the setbacks, you talked about _ perhaps the setbacks, you talked about five — perhaps the setbacks, you talked about five foreign secretary is over six years _ about five foreign secretary is over six years and one of the foreign secretaries _ six years and one of the foreign secretaries who dealt with your case was boris _ secretaries who dealt with your case was borisjohnson. he said, that you are out— was borisjohnson. he said, that you are out there — was borisjohnson. he said, that you are out there teaching journalists, which _ are out there teaching journalists, which he _ are out there teaching journalists, which he were not. did you hear about— which he were not. did you hear about that — which he were not. did you hear about that and what did the iranians tell you _ about that and what did the iranians tell you and how did he feel it affected — tell you and how did he feel it affected you? | tell you and how did he feel it affected you?— tell you and how did he feel it affected ou? ., . . affected you? i did not have much information _ affected you? i did not have much information on _ affected you? i did not have much information on the _ affected you? i did not have much information on the outside - affected you? i did not have much information on the outside well. i information on the outside well. secluded — information on the outside well. secluded space _ information on the outside well. secluded space in— information on the outside well. secluded space in prison, - information on the outside well. secluded space in prison, only. information on the outside well. . secluded space in prison, only had access— secluded space in prison, only had access to — secluded space in prison, only had access to certain _ secluded space in prison, only had access to certain media _ secluded space in prison, only had access to certain media and - secluded space in prison, only had access to certain media and a - secluded space in prison, only had . access to certain media and a couple of newspapers — access to certain media and a couple of newspapers we _ access to certain media and a couple of newspapers. we had _ access to certain media and a couple of newspapers. we had visit - access to certain media and a couple of newspapers. we had visit every. of newspapers. we had visit every week, _ of newspapers. we had visit every week, but— of newspapers. we had visit every week, but then— of newspapers. we had visit every week, but then i _ of newspapers. we had visit every week, but then i would _ of newspapers. we had visit every week, but then i would have - of newspapers. we had visit every| week, but then i would have loved of newspapers. we had visit every. week, but then i would have loved to have spent _ week, but then i would have loved to have spent the — week, but then i would have loved to have spent the time _ week, but then i would have loved to have spent the time with _ week, but then i would have loved to have spent the time with her, - week, but then i would have loved to have spent the time with her, so - week, but then i would have loved to have spent the time with her, so as. have spent the time with her, so as lon- have spent the time with her, so as long as _ have spent the time with her, so as long as she — have spent the time with her, so as long as she was— have spent the time with her, so as long as she was in— have spent the time with her, so as long as she was in iran, _ have spent the time with her, so as long as she was in iran, than - long as she was in iran, than talking — long as she was in iran, than talking about _ long as she was in iran, than talking about politics, - long as she was in iran, than talking about politics, to - long as she was in iran, than talking about politics, to bei talking about politics, to be honest _ talking about politics, to be honest i _ talking about politics, to be honest. i didn't— talking about politics, to be honest. ididn't know- talking about politics, to be honest. i didn't know whati talking about politics, to be i honest. i didn't know what was talking about politics, to be - honest. i didn't know what was going on. honest. i didn't know what was going on unless— honest. i didn't know what was going on. unless something _ honest. i didn't know what was going on. unless something was _ honest. i didn't know what was going on. unless something was coming i
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honest. i didn't know what was going| on. unless something was coming up in the _ on. unless something was coming up in the news, — on. unless something was coming up in the news, i— on. unless something was coming up in the news, i would _ on. unless something was coming up in the news, i would have _ on. unless something was coming up in the news, i would have known, i on. unless something was coming upj in the news, iwould have known, but otherwise. _ in the news, iwould have known, but otherwise. no~ — in the news, iwould have known, but otherwise, no. there _ in the news, iwould have known, but otherwise, no. there is— in the news, iwould have known, but otherwise, no. there is a _ in the news, iwould have known, but otherwise, no. there is a lot - in the news, iwould have known, but otherwise, no. there is a lot to- otherwise, no. there is a lot to know _ otherwise, no. there is a lot to know now _ otherwise, no. there is a lot to know now that _ otherwise, no. there is a lot to know now that i— otherwise, no. there is a lot to know now that i have _ otherwise, no. there is a lot to know now that i have come i otherwise, no. there is a lot to. know now that i have come back. otherwise, no. there is a lot to- know now that i have come back. we will have _ know now that i have come back. we will have so — know now that i have come back. we will have so many— know now that i have come back. we will have so many nights _ know now that i have come back. we will have so many nights chatting i will have so many nights chatting about _ will have so many nights chatting about stories. _ will have so many nights chatting about stories. perhaps _ will have so many nights chatting about stories. perhaps at - will have so many nights chatting about stories. perhaps at the i about stories. perhaps at the moment, _ about stories. perhaps at the moment, the _ about stories. perhaps at the moment, the necessity- about stories. perhaps at the moment, the necessity of i about stories. perhaps at the i moment, the necessity of talking about— moment, the necessity of talking about them — moment, the necessity of talking about them is— moment, the necessity of talking about them is less _ moment, the necessity of talking about them is less than - moment, the necessity of talking about them is less than what i moment, the necessity of talking about them is less than what it . moment, the necessity of talking i about them is less than what it used to be _ about them is less than what it used to be at— about them is less than what it used to be at the — about them is less than what it used to be at the time. _ about them is less than what it used to be at the time. but _ about them is less than what it used to be at the time. but i _ about them is less than what it used to be at the time. but i think- about them is less than what it used to be at the time. but i think there i to be at the time. but i think there were _ to be at the time. but i think there were times — to be at the time. but i think there were times that _ to be at the time. but i think there were times that i— to be at the time. but i think there were times that i realised - to be at the time. but i think there were times that i realised that i. to be at the time. but i think there | were times that i realised that i am in prison, _ were times that i realised that i am in prison, i— were times that i realised that i am in prison, i have _ were times that i realised that i am in prison, i have 40 _ were times that i realised that i am in prison, i have 40 minutes- were times that i realised that i am in prison, i have 40 minutes to i were times that i realised that i am in prison, i have 40 minutes to seej in prison, i have 40 minutes to see my baby— in prison, i have 40 minutes to see my baby and — in prison, i have 40 minutes to see my baby and have _ in prison, i have 40 minutes to see my baby and have a _ in prison, i have 40 minutes to see my baby and have a story - in prison, i have 40 minutes to see my baby and have a story with i in prison, i have 40 minutes to see my baby and have a story with her, j my baby and have a story with her, do something _ my baby and have a story with her, do something. we _ my baby and have a story with her, do something. we used _ my baby and have a story with her, do something. we used to- my baby and have a story with her, do something. we used to have i my baby and have a story with her, i do something. we used to have lots of stuff— do something. we used to have lots of stuff in _ do something. we used to have lots of stuff in the — do something. we used to have lots of stuff in the room, _ do something. we used to have lots of stuff in the room, colouring i do something. we used to have lots of stuff in the room, colouring and i of stuff in the room, colouring and singing _ of stuff in the room, colouring and singing and — of stuff in the room, colouring and singing and things _ of stuff in the room, colouring and singing and things like _ of stuff in the room, colouring and singing and things like that. i i of stuff in the room, colouring and singing and things like that. i was| singing and things like that. i was not going — singing and things like that. i was not going to — singing and things like that. i was not going to miss— singing and things like that. i was not going to miss that _ singing and things like that. i was. not going to miss that opportunity. i did not— not going to miss that opportunity. i did not spend _ not going to miss that opportunity. i did not spend time _ not going to miss that opportunity. i did not spend time following i not going to miss that opportunity. i did not spend time following the. i did not spend time following the politics— i did not spend time following the politics behind _ i did not spend time following the politics behind my— i did not spend time following the politics behind my story. - i did not spend time following the politics behind my story. i- i did not spend time following the i politics behind my story. i thought, i am powerless— politics behind my story. i thought, i am powerless in— politics behind my story. i thought, i am powerless in prison, _ politics behind my story. i thought, i am powerless in prison, i- politics behind my story. i thought, i am powerless in prison, i will- politics behind my story. i thought, i am powerless in prison, i will see| i am powerless in prison, i will see what _ i am powerless in prison, i will see what will— i am powerless in prison, i will see what will happen _ i am powerless in prison, i will see what will happen. that _ i am powerless in prison, i will see what will happen. that was - i am powerless in prison, i will see what will happen. that was how i l what will happen. that was how i took _ what will happen. that was how i took it. _ what will happen. that was how i took it, because _ what will happen. that was how i took it, because that _ what will happen. that was how i took it, because that was - what will happen. that was how i took it, because that was like i what will happen. that was how i took it, because that was like a l what will happen. that was how i i took it, because that was like a way for me _ took it, because that was like a way for me to _ took it, because that was like a way for me to survive. _ took it, because that was like a way for me to survive. when _ took it, because that was like a way for me to survive. when you - took it, because that was like a way for me to survive. when you accept| for me to survive. when you accept that you _ for me to survive. when you accept that you don't — for me to survive. when you accept that you don't have, _ for me to survive. when you accept that you don't have, you _ for me to survive. when you accept that you don't have, you know, i for me to survive. when you accept that you don't have, you know, you do not _ that you don't have, you know, you do not have — that you don't have, you know, you do not have the _ that you don't have, you know, you do not have the means _ that you don't have, you know, you do not have the means to-
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that you don't have, you know, you do not have the means to get- that you don't have, you know, you do not have the means to get to i that you don't have, you know, you i do not have the means to get to know what is _ do not have the means to get to know what is happening _ do not have the means to get to know what is happening outside, _ do not have the means to get to know what is happening outside, then- do not have the means to get to know what is happening outside, then you i what is happening outside, then you have to _ what is happening outside, then you have to come — what is happening outside, then you have to come to _ what is happening outside, then you have to come to terms _ what is happening outside, then you have to come to terms with - what is happening outside, then you have to come to terms with that. i have to come to terms with that. that _ have to come to terms with that. that is— have to come to terms with that. that is what _ have to come to terms with that. that is what i— have to come to terms with that. that is what i did, _ have to come to terms with that. that is what i did, so _ have to come to terms with that. that is what i did, so the - have to come to terms with that. that is what i did, so the answer| have to come to terms with that. i that is what i did, so the answer is no. , ., ., , . , no. itv news london. three years auo, no. itv news london. three years ago. richard. _ no. itv news london. three years ago, richard, gabriella _ no. itv news london. three years ago, richard, gabriella handing i no. itv news london. three years ago, richard, gabriella handing inj no. itv news london. three years i ago, richard, gabriella handing in a mud descartes of 10 downing street to try— mud descartes of 10 downing street to try to— mud descartes of 10 downing street to try to get your freedom. looking forward _ to try to get your freedom. looking forward to— to try to get your freedom. looking forward to this end it, first mother's _ forward to this end it, first mother's day for six years, you will -et mother's day for six years, you will get to— mother's day for six years, you will get to spend it together, what are you going — get to spend it together, what are you going to do, how special will it be? i_ you going to do, how special will it be? ., 4' ., you going to do, how special will it be? ., ,, ., . , you going to do, how special will it be? ., ,, ., �*, be? i did not know it was mother's da . day. - laughter. the only thing i know that yesterday was the _ the only thing i know that yesterday was the persian _ the only thing i know that yesterday was the persian new— the only thing i know that yesterday was the persian new year _ the only thing i know that yesterday was the persian new year and i the only thing i know that yesterday was the persian new year and we i the only thing i know that yesterday. was the persian new year and we just quickly— was the persian new year and we just quickly but _ was the persian new year and we just quickly but the — was the persian new year and we just quickly but the table _ was the persian new year and we just quickly but the table together- was the persian new year and we just quickly but the table together and i quickly but the table together and with the _ quickly but the table together and with the people _ quickly but the table together and with the people we _ quickly but the table together and with the people we were - quickly but the table together and with the people we were with, i quickly but the table together and with the people we were with, we j quickly but the table together and i with the people we were with, we sat down _ with the people we were with, we sat down and _ with the people we were with, we sat down and i— with the people we were with, we sat down and i talked _ with the people we were with, we sat down and i talked to _ with the people we were with, we sat down and i talked to my _ with the people we were with, we sat down and i talked to my family- with the people we were with, we sat down and i talked to my family and l down and i talked to my family and 'ust down and i talked to my family and just eni'oyed — down and i talked to my family and just enjoyed the _ down and i talked to my family and just enjoyed the moment. - down and i talked to my family and just enjoyed the moment. we i down and i talked to my family andj just enjoyed the moment. we were down and i talked to my family and i just enjoyed the moment. we were see how it _ just enjoyed the moment. we were see how it goes _
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just enjoyed the moment. we were see how it noes. . _, just enjoyed the moment. we were see how it noes.~ _, . ,, just enjoyed the moment. we were see how it oes. . . . how it goes. welcome back, nazanin, welcome to — how it goes. welcome back, nazanin, welcome to see _ how it goes. welcome back, nazanin, welcome to see you _ how it goes. welcome back, nazanin, welcome to see you here. _ how it goes. welcome back, nazanin, welcome to see you here. can i i how it goes. welcome back, nazanin, welcome to see you here. can i ask. welcome to see you here. can i ask how you _ welcome to see you here. can i ask how you felt — welcome to see you here. can i ask how you felt when you walk down the steps _ how you felt when you walk down the steps of _ how you felt when you walk down the steps of the plane brize norton? is it too— steps of the plane brize norton? is it too early— steps of the plane brize norton? is it too early to say what the future holds? _ it too early to say what the future holds? ls — it too early to say what the future holds? is there anything you want to say about_ holds? is there anything you want to say about the difficult times you spent _ say about the difficult times you spent in — say about the difficult times you spent injailand say about the difficult times you spent injail and most importantly, how are _ spent injail and most importantly, how are you? it spent in jail and most importantly, how are you?— how are you? it is very early to think what _ how are you? it is very early to think what is _ how are you? it is very early to think what is going _ how are you? it is very early to think what is going to - how are you? it is very early to think what is going to happen i how are you? it is very early to - think what is going to happen next. that moment — think what is going to happen next. that moment was _ think what is going to happen next. that moment was precious. - think what is going to happen next. that moment was precious. i- think what is going to happen next. that moment was precious. i have| that moment was precious. i have been _ that moment was precious. i have been waiting — that moment was precious. i have been waiting for— that moment was precious. i have been waiting for that _ that moment was precious. i have been waiting for that moment - that moment was precious. i have been waiting for that moment fori been waiting for that moment for such a _ been waiting for that moment for such a long — been waiting for that moment for such a long time _ been waiting for that moment for such a long time and _ been waiting for that moment for such a long time and i— been waiting for that moment for such a long time and i was - such a long time and i was overwhelmed. _ such a long time and i was overwhelmed. and - such a long time and i was - overwhelmed. and specifically to such a long time and i was _ overwhelmed. and specifically to get to know _ overwhelmed. and specifically to get to know gabriella _ overwhelmed. and specifically to get to know gabriella and _ overwhelmed. and specifically to get to know gabriella and richard - overwhelmed. and specifically to get to know gabriella and richard after l to know gabriella and richard after such a _ to know gabriella and richard after such a long — to know gabriella and richard after such a long time, _ to know gabriella and richard after such a long time, it— to know gabriella and richard after such a long time, it was _ to know gabriella and richard after such a long time, it was very - such a long time, it was very emotional— such a long time, it was very emotional moment. - such a long time, it was very emotional moment. but- such a long time, it was very emotional moment. but we. such a long time, it was very i emotional moment. but we will such a long time, it was very - emotional moment. but we will see what happens. _ emotional moment. but we will see what happens. i_ emotional moment. but we will see what happens, i think— emotional moment. but we will see what happens, i think it _ emotional moment. but we will see what happens, i think it is - emotional moment. but we will see what happens, i think it is too - what happens, i think it is too early— what happens, i think it is too early to— what happens, i think it is too early to think _ what happens, i think it is too early to think about _ what happens, i think it is too early to think about that, - what happens, i think it is too early to think about that, i - what happens, i think it is too| early to think about that, i am what happens, i think it is too - early to think about that, i am just enjoying _ early to think about that, i am just enjoying the — early to think about that, i am just enjoying the moment. _ early to think about that, i am 'ust enjoying the momenti early to think about that, i am 'ust enjoying the moment. would you mind handin: the enjoying the moment. would you mind handing the microphone _ enjoying the moment. would you mind handing the microphone over. -
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enjoying the moment. would you mind | handing the microphone over. welcome home, handing the microphone over. welcome home. nazanin- — handing the microphone over. welcome home, nazanin. roxanne, _ handing the microphone over. welcome home, nazanin. roxanne, i— handing the microphone over. welcome home, nazanin. roxanne, i am- handing the microphone over. welcome home, nazanin. roxanne, i am sorry. home, nazanin. roxanne, iam sorry to hear— home, nazanin. roxanne, iam sorry to hear about — home, nazanin. roxanne, iam sorry to hear about your father's case. my question— to hear about your father's case. my question is— to hear about your father's case. my question is to tulip a richer, once you receive — question is to tulip a richer, once you receive a response from tom tugendhat. — you receive a response from tom tugendhat, will you consider a judicial— tugendhat, will you consider a judicial review? | tugendhat, will you consider a judicial review?— tugendhat, will you consider a judicial review? i will take that one. judicial review? i will take that one- no. _ judicial review? i will take that one- n0. is — judicial review? i will take that one. no, is the _ judicial review? i will take that one. no, is the short- judicial review? i will take that one. no, is the short answer. | judicial review? i will take that. one. no, is the short answer. the points, we have been angry and you know that, we said it bluntly. behind closed doors when lever in seclusion, it is useful to review what happened and what we can learn from it. ithink what happened and what we can learn from it. i think the suggestion of a foreign affairs committee review, inquiry is a really good one. there is a wider issue about how the government deals with hostagetaking, how it can do it better. it is not easy. the foreign office has a challenging job, easy. the foreign office has a challengingjob, iran is easy. the foreign office has a challenging job, iran is tricky and everything that has happened to roxanne's dad in the past 48 hours
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demonstrates that. i think it will be really valuable for parliament to take up that challenge and talk it through. i think that is best through. i think that is best through parliament rather than angry lawyers and, you know, iran having to cover themselves. it is early days, i don't think, ifeel i am retiring from campaigning rather than going into a let's lobby the foreign affairs committee stage. iam from i am from the guardian. i wanted to know, _ i am from the guardian. i wanted to know. this — i am from the guardian. i wanted to know, this might be black hole territory — know, this might be black hole territory that you don't want to talk about, and i understand, but could _ talk about, and i understand, but could you — talk about, and i understand, but could you describe what solitary confinement is like, what in effect it had? _ confinement is like, what in effect it had? i_ confinement is like, what in effect it had? ., ., ,
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confinement is like, what in effect ithad? ., ., , ., it had? i would not be comfortable answerin: it had? i would not be comfortable answering a _ it had? i would not be comfortable answering a question. _ it had? i would not be comfortable answering a question. i'm - it had? i would not be comfortable answering a question. i'm sorry, . answering a question. i'm sorry, patrick. answering a question. i'm sorry, patrick- can _ answering a question. i'm sorry, patrick- can i— answering a question. i'm sorry, patrick. can i ask _ answering a question. i'm sorry, patrick. can i ask you _ answering a question. i'm sorry, patrick. can i ask you another i patrick. can i ask you another question? _ patrick. can i ask you another question? on the issue of the debt, is that— question? on the issue of the debt, is that what— question? on the issue of the debt, is that what you felt held back you release, _ is that what you felt held back you release, failing to pay the debt? why do— release, failing to pay the debt? why do you think it wasn't paid? i don't why do you think it wasn't paid? don't know, why do you think it wasn't paid? i don't know, i was told early on, there _ don't know, i was told early on, there was— don't know, i was told early on, there was something _ don't know, i was told early on, there was something they- don't know, i was told early on, l there was something they wanted don't know, i was told early on, - there was something they wanted of there was something they wanted of the brits— there was something they wanted of the brits and — there was something they wanted of the brits and they _ there was something they wanted of the brits and they would _ there was something they wanted of the brits and they would not - there was something they wanted of the brits and they would not let - there was something they wanted of the brits and they would not let me i the brits and they would not let me io the brits and they would not let me go until— the brits and they would not let me go until they — the brits and they would not let me go until they got _ the brits and they would not let me go until they got there. _ the brits and they would not let me go until they got there. they- the brits and they would not let me go until they got there. they were i go until they got there. they were correct _ go until they got there. they were correct about _ go until they got there. they were correct about it. _ go until they got there. they were correct about it. i— go until they got there. they were correct about it. i didn't _ go until they got there. they were correct about it. i didn't have - go until they got there. they were correct about it. i didn't have the. correct about it. i didn't have the details _ correct about it. i didn't have the details at — correct about it. i didn't have the details at the _ correct about it. i didn't have the details at the time, _ correct about it. i didn't have the details at the time, but - correct about it. i didn't have the details at the time, but i - correct about it. i didn't have the details at the time, but i think. correct about it. i didn't have the details at the time, but i think it| details at the time, but i think it was weei
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you have _ forget some of the horrible cruelty you have been subjected to. and i wanted _ you have been subjected to. and i wanted to— you have been subjected to. and i wanted to ask you, i know you have had some _ wanted to ask you, i know you have had some advice from terry waite about _ had some advice from terry waite about how — had some advice from terry waite about how to emerge from this trauma that you _ about how to emerge from this trauma that you have been through and i 'ust that you have been through and i just wondered if there was any of his advice — just wondered if there was any of his advice that you could tell us that you — his advice that you could tell us that you have drawn some comfort from? _ that you have drawn some comfort from? it _ that you have drawn some comfort from? , , ' . that you have drawn some comfort from? , , , . ., ., from? it is very difficult for me to talk about — from? it is very difficult for me to talk about what _ from? it is very difficult for me to talk about what i've _ from? it is very difficult for me to talk about what i've gone - from? it is very difficult for me to | talk about what i've gone through, so i talk about what i've gone through, so i would — talk about what i've gone through, so i would rather— talk about what i've gone through, so i would rather not _ talk about what i've gone through, so i would rather not answer - talk about what i've gone through, so i would rather not answer the l so i would rather not answer the question— so i would rather not answer the question and _ so i would rather not answer the question and i_ so i would rather not answer the question and i think _ so i would rather not answer the question and i think this - so i would rather not answer the i question and i think this moment is 'ust question and i think this moment is just cominq — question and i think this moment is just coming back— question and i think this moment is just coming back home _ question and i think this moment is just coming back home and - question and i think this moment is just coming back home and just i just coming back home and just enjoyinqm _ just coming back home and just enjoyinqm it— just coming back home and just enjoyinqm it will— just coming back home and just enjoying... it will always - just coming back home and just enjoying... it will always hauntl just coming back home and just i enjoying... it will always haunt me, there _ enjoying... it will always haunt me, there is— enjoying... it will always haunt me, there is no— enjoying... it will always haunt me, there is no other— enjoying... it will always haunt me, there is no other way— enjoying... it will always haunt me, there is no other way around - enjoying... it will always haunt me, there is no other way around it, i enjoying... it will always haunt me, there is no other way around it, it l there is no other way around it, it will be _ there is no other way around it, it will be with— there is no other way around it, it will be with me... _ there is no other way around it, it will be with me... terry— there is no other way around it, it will be with me... terry waite i there is no other way around it, it will be with me... terry waite is i there is no other way around it, it| will be with me... terry waite is a good _ will be with me... terry waite is a good example. _ will be with me... terry waite is a good example. it _ will be with me... terry waite is a good example, it is _ will be with me... terry waite is a good example, it is never- will be with me... terry waite is a good example, it is never going i will be with me... terry waite is a| good example, it is never going to leave _ good example, it is never going to leave you — good example, it is never going to leave you alone _ good example, it is never going to leave you alone but _ good example, it is never going to leave you alone but i— good example, it is never going to leave you alone but i think - good example, it is never going to leave you alone but i think at i good example, it is never going to leave you alone but i think at the i leave you alone but i think at the moment, — leave you alone but i think at the moment, i— leave you alone but i think at the moment, i would _ leave you alone but i think at the moment, iwould rather- leave you alone but i think at the moment, i would ratherjust i leave you alone but i think at the i moment, i would ratherjust focus on the moment— moment, i would ratherjust focus on the moment of— moment, i would ratherjust focus on the moment of coming _ moment, i would ratherjust focus on the moment of coming back- moment, i would ratherjust focus on the moment of coming back home. . moment, i would ratherjust focus on i the moment of coming back home. that is absolutel the moment of coming back home. is absolutely fine. can ijust ask you. _ is absolutely fine. can ijust ask you. have — is absolutely fine. can ijust ask you, have you tidied the flat yet? i don't you, have you tidied the flat yet? don't know, you, have you tidied the flat yet? i don't know, i haven't been to the flat yet~ — don't know, i haven't been to the flat et. ~ ., �* ., don't know, i haven't been to the flat et.~ ., �* ., flat yet. we haven't gone back yet. brace yourself. _
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flat yet. we haven't gone back yet. brace yourself. is _ flat yet. we haven't gone back yet. brace yourself. is anyone - flat yet. we haven't gone back yet. brace yourself. is anyone in - flat yet. we haven't gone back yet. brace yourself. is anyone in the i brace yourself. is anyone in the third row? _ brace yourself. is anyone in the third row? yes, _ brace yourself. is anyone in the third row? yes, and _ brace yourself. is anyone in the third row? yes, and then i brace yourself. is anyone in the third row? yes, and then we i brace yourself. is anyone in the | third row? yes, and then we will come to this man. hi. third row? yes, and then we will come to this man.— third row? yes, and then we will come to this man. hi, nazanin, 'ust wanted to say fl come to this man. hi, nazanin, 'ust wanted to say welcome i come to this man. hi, nazanin, 'ust wanted to say welcome home. ii come to this man. hi, nazanin, just| wanted to say welcome home. ijust wanted _ wanted to say welcome home. ijust wanted to— wanted to say welcome home. ijust wanted to ask, i suppose, was there a specific— wanted to ask, i suppose, was there a specific memory of your home, your daughter, _ a specific memory of your home, your daughter, richard, what was it that really— daughter, richard, what was it that really helps you survive through this time — really helps you survive through this time and what is it you are most _ this time and what is it you are most excited to be back for? my memory faded as the time went by, but the _ memory faded as the time went by, but the most — memory faded as the time went by, but the most visible _ memory faded as the time went by, but the most visible memory- memory faded as the time went by, but the most visible memory was i but the most visible memory was cabriolet — but the most visible memory was cabriolet playing _ but the most visible memory was cabriolet playing and _ but the most visible memory was cabriolet playing and richard i cabriolet playing and richard qettinq — cabriolet playing and richard getting me _ cabriolet playing and richard getting me a _ cabriolet playing and richard getting me a cup _ cabriolet playing and richard getting me a cup of- cabriolet playing and richard getting me a cup of fennel. cabriolet playing and richard i getting me a cup of fennel tea, because — getting me a cup of fennel tea, because i— getting me a cup of fennel tea, because i was— getting me a cup of fennel tea, because i was breast—feeding l getting me a cup of fennel tea, i because i was breast—feeding at the time -- _ because i was breast—feeding at the time —— gabriella _ because i was breast—feeding at the time —— gabriella playing. _ because i was breast—feeding at the time —— gabriella playing. that- because i was breast—feeding at the time —— gabriella playing. that was| time —— gabriella playing. that was the most _ time —— gabriella playing. that was the most vivid _ time —— gabriella playing. that was the most vivid memory _ time —— gabriella playing. that was the most vivid memory i _ time —— gabriella playing. that was the most vivid memory i would i time —— gabriella playing. that was. the most vivid memory i would have, but then— the most vivid memory i would have, but then it _ the most vivid memory i would have, but then it faded _ the most vivid memory i would have, but then it faded gradually _ the most vivid memory i would have, but then it faded gradually so - the most vivid memory i would have, but then it faded gradually so i - the most vivid memory i would have, but then it faded gradually so i had . but then it faded gradually so i had a very— but then it faded gradually so i had a very vaque — but then it faded gradually so i had a very vague memory _ but then it faded gradually so i had a very vague memory of _ but then it faded gradually so i had a very vague memory of that. i but then it faded gradually so i had a very vague memory of that. we i a very vague memory of that. we still haven't — a very vague memory of that. we still haven't picked _ a very vague memory of that. we still haven't picked up, _ a very vague memory of that. we still haven't picked up, because l a very vague memory of that. we i still haven't picked up, because we haven't_ still haven't picked up, because we haven't been— still haven't picked up, because we haven't been to _ still haven't picked up, because we haven't been to the _ still haven't picked up, because we haven't been to the flat _ still haven't picked up, because we haven't been to the flat so - still haven't picked up, because we haven't been to the flat so we - still haven't picked up, because we haven't been to the flat so we are i haven't been to the flat so we are looking _ haven't been to the flat so we are looking forward _ haven't been to the flat so we are looking forward to _ haven't been to the flat so we are looking forward to that. _ haven't been to the flat so we are looking forward to that.— looking forward to that. stephen castle from _ looking forward to that. stephen castle from the _ looking forward to that. stephen castle from the new— looking forward to that. stephen castle from the new york - looking forward to that. stephen | castle from the new york times. nazanin, — castle from the new york times. nazanin, i— castle from the new york times. nazanin, ijust wonder, did you
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always— nazanin, ijust wonder, did you always managed to keep your faith and confidence that you would be released — and confidence that you would be released and, if so, how did you manage — released and, if so, how did you manage to — released and, if so, how did you manage to keep that strength? and, to richard, _ manage to keep that strength? and, to richard, please, ithink manage to keep that strength? and, to richard, please, i think right at the beginning of this you are encouraged to keep very quiet and not to— encouraged to keep very quiet and not to rack— encouraged to keep very quiet and not to rock the boat and sort of keep _ not to rock the boat and sort of keep your — not to rock the boat and sort of keep your mouth shut, do you think that if_ keep your mouth shut, do you think that if you _ keep your mouth shut, do you think that if you had done so, we wouldn't have the _ that if you had done so, we wouldn't have the result of that we have and what would — have the result of that we have and what would be your advice to other people _ what would be your advice to other people who in regret —— are in regrettably similar situations. it regrettably similar situations. [it is a regrettably similar situations. is a good regrettably similar situations. it is a good question and i regrettably similar situations. it is a good question and i think it is a question, as families, we all struggle with. six years on, i don't think i know what the best solution is, if i'm honest. ithink think i know what the best solution is, if i'm honest. i think it felt right, i mean, we waited for a month, we didn't go public one and then went loud and consistently loud and i was used to beat myself up as to what we could do to get her over
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the line. it wasn'tjust to what we could do to get her over the line. it wasn't just simple outrage, there was more going on and our story, you never know what you don't know. i think my advice to any family is to follow your gut and to be authentic about it. my gut told me that this was outrageous and crazy and there must be something else going on and to speak out about it. it didn't tell me to do it on day one. day one, i was bewildered but, once i did, i did and it was tough for nazanin's father, but his gut told him not to stir up a hornets nest and he didn't feel it was particularly sensible of his son—in—law to stir it up. it is not like we got her out in six weeks, we got her out in six years. i am eternally grateful to everyone involved in getting her out, some
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people who are in this room, you know, because our life can start again. there were bumps along the way, it might have happened differently, it happened at this way for us and i hope it happens soon for us and i hope it happens soon for roxanne's dad. this is a question, you know there are other dual nationals detained in iran and you wanted to retire from campaigning and speaking out for others, orare campaigning and speaking out for others, or are you going to carry on campaigning for them? the short answer is nazanin wants to come home to a husband and normal life and not a professional campaigner and life and not a professional campaignerand i life and not a professional campaigner and i think, life and not a professional campaignerand i think, i mean, yeah, every family battles in their own way but we are all a part of a
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club that no one wants to belong to and we do all care for each other and, behind the scenes, all help each other. imperfectly, like all things in life. and i think, for me, we will see what happens. if there is an inquiry, there were various things we were in the middle of with campaigning that we might finish off and carry on, things like the magnitsky sanctions that are a collective effort that will probably calm down a bit with our involvement, but won't disappear. but, no, myjob is to recover and for us to be a normal family again, it is not going to be sitting in front of you guys for years to come. could i go to the lady there, please? could i go to the lady there, lease? . . could i go to the lady there, lease? , , ., , please? test set from five news, it is wonderful— please? test set from five news, it is wonderful to _ please? test set from five news, it is wonderful to see _ please? test set from five news, it is wonderful to see you _ please? test set from five news, it is wonderful to see you home - please? test set from five news, it is wonderful to see you home and. is wonderful to see you home and wonderful— is wonderful to see you home and wonderful to see richard with a big smile _ wonderful to see richard with a big smile on— wonderful to see richard with a big smile on his face because we have all seen _ smile on his face because we have all seen him in different circumstances. i wonder,
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all seen him in different circumstances. iwonder, could i ask you. _ circumstances. iwonder, could i ask you. did _ circumstances. iwonder, could i ask you. did you — circumstances. iwonder, could i ask you, did you know that richard had it in him _ you, did you know that richard had it in him to — you, did you know that richard had it in him to campaign and so unswerving and dedicated? and did you learn— unswerving and dedicated? and did you learn much about yourself while you learn much about yourself while you were _ you learn much about yourself while you were away? second question, there _ you were away? second question, there is_ you were away? second question, there is a — you were away? second question, there is a wonderful photograph of you of— there is a wonderful photograph of you of you — there is a wonderful photograph of you of you when you are home and you are holding _ you of you when you are home and you are holding gabriella and your head is on richard's shoulder and i wonder— is on richard's shoulder and i wonder if— is on richard's shoulder and i wonder if you could tell me how you felt when _ wonder if you could tell me how you felt when that photo was taken? it felt when that photo was taken? [it is felt when that photo was taken? is surreal felt when that photo was taken? it is surreal to come back and to be holding _ is surreal to come back and to be holding nry— is surreal to come back and to be holding my husband _ is surreal to come back and to be holding my husband and - is surreal to come back and to be holding my husband and my- is surreal to come back and to be l holding my husband and my baby, is surreal to come back and to be - holding my husband and my baby, who is not _ holding my husband and my baby, who is not a _ holding my husband and my baby, who is not a baby— holding my husband and my baby, who is not a babyany— holding my husband and my baby, who is not a baby any more, _ holding my husband and my baby, who is not a baby any more, but— holding my husband and my baby, who is not a baby any more, but also, - holding my husband and my baby, who is not a baby any more, but also, i- is not a baby any more, but also, i think— is not a baby any more, but also, i think ihr— is not a baby any more, but also, i think i'm not— is not a baby any more, but also, i think i'm not going _ is not a baby any more, but also, i think i'm not going to _ is not a baby any more, but also, i think i'm not going to answer- is not a baby any more, but also, i think i'm not going to answer the i think i'm not going to answer the first part — think i'm not going to answer the first part of — think i'm not going to answer the first part of your— think i'm not going to answer the first part of your question, - think i'm not going to answer the first part of your question, but i think i'm not going to answer the i first part of your question, but the second _ first part of your question, but the second part — first part of your question, but the second part of— first part of your question, but the second part of your— first part of your question, but the second part of your question - first part of your question, but the second part of your question is - first part of your question, but the second part of your question is i l second part of your question is i did go— second part of your question is i did go through _ second part of your question is i did go through a _ second part of your question is i did go through a journey - second part of your question is i did go through a journey to - second part of your question is i did go through a journey to geti second part of your question is i i did go through a journey to get to know— did go through a journey to get to know nryself— did go through a journey to get to know myself a _ did go through a journey to get to know myself a lot _ did go through a journey to get to know myself a lot better, - did go through a journey to get to know myself a lot better, to - did go through a journey to get to know myself a lot better, to get i did go through a journey to get to| know myself a lot better, to get to know _ know myself a lot better, to get to know my _ know myself a lot better, to get to know my strengths _ know myself a lot better, to get to know my strengths and _ know myself a lot better, to get to know my strengths and my- know myself a lot better, to get to know my strengths and my faith, i know myself a lot better, to get to - know my strengths and my faith, more than anything — know my strengths and my faith, more than anything else, _ know my strengths and my faith, more than anything else, so _ know my strengths and my faith, more than anything else, so it _ know my strengths and my faith, more than anything else, so it was _ know my strengths and my faith, more than anything else, so it was a - than anything else, so it was a journey— than anything else, so it was a journey with _ than anything else, so it was a journey with a _ than anything else, so it was a journey with a huge, _ than anything else, so it was a journey with a huge, huge - than anything else, so it was a l journey with a huge, huge price than anything else, so it was a - journey with a huge, huge price but ithink— journey with a huge, huge price but i think it _ journey with a huge, huge price but i think it is — journey with a huge, huge price but i think it is something _ journey with a huge, huge price but i think it is something that -
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journey with a huge, huge price but i think it is something that not - i think it is something that not many— i think it is something that not many people _ i think it is something that not many people in— i think it is something that not many people in the _ i think it is something that not many people in the world - i think it is something that not. many people in the world would experience. _ many people in the world would experience, so, _ many people in the world would experience, so, looking - many people in the world would experience, so, looking back, . many people in the world would i experience, so, looking back, we paid a— experience, so, looking back, we paid a huge — experience, so, looking back, we paid a huge price _ experience, so, looking back, we paid a huge price for— experience, so, looking back, we paid a huge price for it— experience, so, looking back, we paid a huge price for it but, - experience, so, looking back, we paid a huge price for it but, at. experience, so, looking back, we paid a huge price for it but, at at| paid a huge price for it but, at at the end — paid a huge price for it but, at at the end of— paid a huge price for it but, at at the end of the _ paid a huge price for it but, at at the end of the day, _ paid a huge price for it but, at at the end of the day, it _ paid a huge price for it but, at at the end of the day, it made - paid a huge price for it but, at at the end of the day, it made us . paid a huge price for it but, at at the end of the day, it made us a| paid a huge price for it but, at at. the end of the day, it made us a lot closer _ the end of the day, it made us a lot closer we — the end of the day, it made us a lot closer. we have _ the end of the day, it made us a lot closer. we have made _ the end of the day, it made us a lot closer. we have made so— the end of the day, it made us a lot closer. we have made so many- the end of the day, it made us a loti closer. we have made so many good friends _ closer. we have made so many good friends and _ closer. we have made so many good friends and got — closer. we have made so many good friends and got to _ closer. we have made so many good friends and got to know _ closer. we have made so many good friends and got to know the - closer. we have made so many good friends and got to know the families| friends and got to know the families of ex prisoners, _ friends and got to know the families of ex prisoners, prisoners _ friends and got to know the families of ex prisoners, prisoners who - friends and got to know the families of ex prisoners, prisoners who are l of ex prisoners, prisoners who are at this— of ex prisoners, prisoners who are at this moment _ of ex prisoners, prisoners who are at this moment of _ of ex prisoners, prisoners who are at this moment of time _ of ex prisoners, prisoners who are at this moment of time in - of ex prisoners, prisoners who are at this moment of time in prison. of ex prisoners, prisoners who arei at this moment of time in prison so ithink— at this moment of time in prison so i think it _ at this moment of time in prison so i think it made _ at this moment of time in prison so i think it made us _ at this moment of time in prison so i think it made us a _ at this moment of time in prison so i think it made us a lot— at this moment of time in prison so i think it made us a lot closer- at this moment of time in prison so i think it made us a lot closer to- i think it made us a lot closer to each _ i think it made us a lot closer to each other, _ i think it made us a lot closer to each other, a _ i think it made us a lot closer to each other, a lot _ i think it made us a lot closer to each other, a lot stronger- i think it made us a lot closer to each other, a lot stronger but . i think it made us a lot closer to| each other, a lot stronger but we paid a _ each other, a lot stronger but we paid a massive _ each other, a lot stronger but we paid a massive price _ each other, a lot stronger but we paid a massive price for- each other, a lot stronger but we paid a massive price for it. - each other, a lot stronger but we paid a massive price for it. we. each other, a lot stronger but we paid a massive price for it. we are really short _ paid a massive price for it. we are really short of _ paid a massive price for it. we are really short of time _ paid a massive price for it. we are really short of time so _ paid a massive price for it. we are really short of time so if— paid a massive price for it. we are really short of time so if you - paid a massive price for it. we are really short of time so if you could only ask one question, i would be grateful. only ask one question, i would be crateful. �* ., ., grateful. david bond from the evenin: grateful. david bond from the evening standard. _ grateful. david bond from the evening standard. can - grateful. david bond from the evening standard. can i- grateful. david bond from the evening standard. can i ask, l grateful. david bond from the i evening standard. can i ask, was there _ evening standard. can i ask, was there any— evening standard. can i ask, was there any moment where there are moments _ there any moment where there are moments where you thought you were about _ moments where you thought you were about to _ moments where you thought you were about to be _ moments where you thought you were about to be released and you might be able _ about to be released and you might be able to— about to be released and you might be able to come home that were then dashed _ be able to come home that were then dashed and _ be able to come home that were then dashed and how did that feel? there were many moments _ dashed and how did that feel? there were many moments that _ dashed and how did that feel? there were many moments that i - dashed and how did that feel? there were many moments that i felt - dashed and how did that feel? there were many moments that i felt like that _ were many moments that i felt like that~ i_ were many moments that i felt like that i felt — were many moments that i felt like that. i felt like _ were many moments that i felt like that. ifelt like |_ were many moments that i felt like that. i felt like i was _ were many moments that i felt like that. i felt like i was left _ were many moments that i felt like that. i felt like i was left behind. i that. i felt like i was left behind. i that. i felt like i was left behind. i assume — that. i felt like i was left behind. i assume this _ that. i felt like i was left behind. i assume this is— that. i felt like i was left behind. i assume this is exactly- that. i felt like i was left behind. i assume this is exactly what - that. i felt like i was left behind. i i assume this is exactly what morad is feeling _ i assume this is exactly what morad is feeling at — i assume this is exactly what morad is feeling at the _ i assume this is exactly what morad is feeling at the moment. _ i assume this is exactly what morad is feeling at the moment. two - i assume this is exactly what morad is feeling at the moment. two of i
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i assume this is exactly what moradj is feeling at the moment. two of us came _ is feeling at the moment. two of us came home — is feeling at the moment. two of us came home and _ is feeling at the moment. two of us came home and he _ is feeling at the moment. two of us came home and he was _ is feeling at the moment. two of us came home and he was left - is feeling at the moment. two of us came home and he was left behindi is feeling at the moment. two of us l came home and he was left behind so ifully— came home and he was left behind so i fully understand _ came home and he was left behind so i fully understand what _ came home and he was left behind so i fully understand what he _ came home and he was left behind so i fully understand what he is - came home and he was left behind so i fully understand what he is going - i fully understand what he is going through— i fully understand what he is going through at— i fully understand what he is going through at the _ i fully understand what he is going through at the moment _ i fully understand what he is going through at the moment because . i fully understand what he is going through at the moment because itj i fully understand what he is going . through at the moment because it is disappointing. — through at the moment because it is disappointing. it— through at the moment because it is disappointing, it puts— through at the moment because it is disappointing, it puts you _ through at the moment because it is disappointing, it puts you in - through at the moment because it is disappointing, it puts you in a - disappointing, it puts you in a situation _ disappointing, it puts you in a situation that— disappointing, it puts you in a situation that you _ disappointing, it puts you in a situation that you can - disappointing, it puts you in a situation that you can easily. disappointing, it puts you in a i situation that you can easily lose faith in— situation that you can easily lose faith in everything. _ situation that you can easily lose faith in everything. i— situation that you can easily lose faith in everything. i have - situation that you can easily lose faith in everything. i have been. faith in everything. i have been through— faith in everything. i have been through that _ faith in everything. i have been through that twice _ faith in everything. i have been through that twice over - faith in everything. i have been through that twice over the - faith in everything. i have been. through that twice over the past, maybe _ through that twice over the past, maybe three _ through that twice over the past, maybe three times _ through that twice over the past, maybe three times over - through that twice over the past, maybe three times over the - through that twice over the past, maybe three times over the past| through that twice over the past, i maybe three times over the past six years— maybe three times over the past six years and _ maybe three times over the past six years and that — maybe three times over the past six years and that is _ maybe three times over the past six years and that is why— maybe three times over the past six years and that is why i— maybe three times over the past six years and that is why i think - maybe three times over the past six years and that is why i think what i years and that is why i think what we should — years and that is why i think what we should be _ years and that is why i think what we should be doing _ years and that is why i think what we should be doing for— years and that is why i think what we should be doing for morad - years and that is why i think what we should be doing for morad is. we should be doing for morad is something — we should be doing for morad is something that _ we should be doing for morad is something that shouldn't - we should be doing for morad is something that shouldn't have i something that shouldn't have happened _ something that shouldn't have happened to _ something that shouldn't have happened to him, _ something that shouldn't have happened to him, he - something that shouldn't have happened to him, he should . something that shouldn't have i happened to him, he should have something that shouldn't have - happened to him, he should have been on the _ happened to him, he should have been on the same _ happened to him, he should have been on the same flight _ happened to him, he should have been on the same flight as _ happened to him, he should have been on the same flight as is _ happened to him, he should have been on the same flight as is coming - happened to him, he should have been on the same flight as is coming home i on the same flight as is coming home and it— on the same flight as is coming home and it should — on the same flight as is coming home and it should happen— on the same flight as is coming home and it should happen for— on the same flight as is coming home and it should happen for the - on the same flight as is coming home and it should happen for the other- and it should happen for the other dual nationals, _ and it should happen for the other dual nationals, so _ and it should happen for the other dual nationals, so it _ and it should happen for the other dual nationals, so it is _ dual nationals, so it is frustrating, _ dual nationals, so it is frustrating, it- dual nationals, so it is frustrating, it is- dual nationals, so it is - frustrating, it is disappointing that, — frustrating, it is disappointing that, in— frustrating, it is disappointing that, in my— frustrating, it is disappointing that, in my opinion, - frustrating, it is disappointing that, in my opinion, it - frustrating, it is disappointing that, in my opinion, it was . frustrating, it is disappointing| that, in my opinion, it was my frustrating, it is disappointing - that, in my opinion, it was my faith that, in my opinion, it was my faith that made — that, in my opinion, it was my faith that made me _ that, in my opinion, it was my faith that made me go _ that, in my opinion, it was my faith that made me go through- that, in my opinion, it was my faith that made me go through it. - that, in my opinion, it was my faith that made me go through it.- that made me go through it. henry bodkin from _ that made me go through it. henry bodkin from the _ that made me go through it. henry bodkin from the telegraph. - that made me go through it. henry bodkin from the telegraph. a - bodkin from the telegraph. a question— bodkin from the telegraph. a question for roxanne. do you have any idea _ question for roxanne. do you have any idea from the government whether they have _ any idea from the government whether they have any bargaining chips in respect _ they have any bargaining chips in respect of— they have any bargaining chips in respect of getting your dad home? are you _ respect of getting your dad home? are you hearing anything from them,
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is there _ are you hearing anything from them, is there anything practically that you would urge them to do to help speed _ you would urge them to do to help speed up— you would urge them to do to help speed up the process and are you frustrated — speed up the process and are you frustrated perhaps that your dad's release _ frustrated perhaps that your dad's release wasn't linked to the payment of the _ release wasn't linked to the payment of the debt if there was an opportunity there? i of the debt if there was an opportunity there? i haven't been a- raised opportunity there? i haven't been appraised of _ opportunity there? i haven't been appraised of the _ opportunity there? i haven't been appraised of the situation - opportunity there? i haven't been appraised of the situation in - opportunity there? i haven't been | appraised of the situation in terms of what's being negotiated at this time. we were advised that he would be on an indefinite furlough, which turned out to not be the case and we also were advised that my mum's travel ban would have been lifted as well, which is also still not the case. i am not a politician so sadly i can't advise anyone in the government what they can offer and negotiate, but we just urge them to bring them back home. they have been there a very long time.— there a very long time. rosalind from the sunday _ there a very long time. rosalind from the sunday times. - from the sunday times. congratulations, it is wonderful to see you _ congratulations, it is wonderful to see you and congratulations,
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richard _ see you and congratulations, richard i_ see you and congratulations, richard. ijust wanted to know, the last few— richard. ijust wanted to know, the last few days when you came home, when _ last few days when you came home, when did _ last few days when you came home, when did you feel secure in the knowledge you were coming home and, richard, _ knowledge you were coming home and, richard, when was that feeling for you? _ richard, when was that feeling for ou? , ., ., , ., you? only when i got on the plane, not you? only when i got on the plane, rrot before. — you? only when i got on the plane, not before, because _ you? only when i got on the plane, not before, because there - you? only when i got on the plane, not before, because there had - you? only when i got on the plane, | not before, because there had been so many— not before, because there had been so many days— not before, because there had been so many days in— not before, because there had been so many days in the _ not before, because there had been so many days in the past _ not before, because there had been so many days in the past where - not before, because there had been so many days in the past where i. not before, because there had beeni so many days in the past where i had felt i so many days in the past where i had felt i should — so many days in the past where i had felt i should not— so many days in the past where i had felt i should not let _ so many days in the past where i had felt i should not let myself— so many days in the past where i had felt i should not let myself believe i felt i should not let myself believe the moment— felt i should not let myself believe the moment and _ felt i should not let myself believe the moment and i— felt i should not let myself believe the moment and i think— felt i should not let myself believe the moment and i think the - felt i should not let myself believe l the moment and i think the moment the moment and i think the moment the aeroplane — the moment and i think the moment the aeroplane stairs _ the moment and i think the moment the aeroplane stairs went _ the moment and i think the moment the aeroplane stairs went up - the moment and i think the moment the aeroplane stairs went up and - the moment and i think the moment the aeroplane stairs went up and it i the aeroplane stairs went up and it took off, _ the aeroplane stairs went up and it took off, i— the aeroplane stairs went up and it took off, i realised _ the aeroplane stairs went up and it took off, i realised the _ the aeroplane stairs went up and it took off, i realised the moment. the aeroplane stairs went up and it took off, i realised the moment isi took off, i realised the moment is real _ took off, i realised the moment is real. . took off, i realised the moment is real. , ., ., ., real. yes, same for me. there are a lot of games — real. yes, same for me. there are a lot of games that _ real. yes, same for me. there are a lot of games that happened - real. yes, same for me. there are a lot of games that happened that - real. yes, same for me. there are a lot of games that happened that we | lot of games that happened that we didn't air lot of games that happened that we didn'tairand lot of games that happened that we didn't air and perhaps were not able to air, but there was a lot of uncertainty about what was going to happen in the last stages and our experience, and for many hostages as well, we have had false dawns before where we were close but it felt like the last few days were getting closer but, probably, there was a was a gap between what i thought was going to happen, with the foreign office saying it is moving and until it is happen, it hasn't. well, now
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it is happen, it hasn't. well, now it has and it's a lovely feeling. nazanin, massive welcome home, it is great _ nazanin, massive welcome home, it is great to— nazanin, massive welcome home, it is great to see _ nazanin, massive welcome home, it is great to see you. just a quick one, how was— great to see you. just a quick one, how was your first weekend of freedom? is gabriella getting used to having _ freedom? is gabriella getting used to having mummy home and i also wondered — to having mummy home and i also wondered how your mum and dad were back in— wondered how your mum and dad were back in iran _ wondered how your mum and dad were back in iran and if you felt in a million — back in iran and if you felt in a million years whether you would ever be able _ million years whether you would ever be able to _ million years whether you would ever be able to travel back there and see them _ be able to travel back there and see them again?— them again? well, she has been u- irradin them again? well, she has been upgrading mummy _ them again? well, she has been upgrading mummy to _ them again? well, she has been upgrading mummy to be - them again? well, she has been upgrading mummy to be with . them again? well, she has been| upgrading mummy to be with her them again? well, she has been - upgrading mummy to be with her and sadly cappi _ upgrading mummy to be with her and sadly capp! i— upgrading mummy to be with her and sadly capp! idaddy— upgrading mummy to be with her and sadly capp! i daddy to _ upgrading mummy to be with her and sadly capp! i daddy to be _ upgrading mummy to be with her and sadly capp! i daddy to be in— upgrading mummy to be with her and sadly capp! i daddy to be in the - sadly capp! i daddy to be in the bed. _ sadly capp! i daddy to be in the bed. and — sadly capp! i daddy to be in the bed, and rightly— sadly capp! i daddy to be in the bed, and rightly so— sadly capp! i daddy to be in the bed, and rightly so —— - sadly capp! i daddy to be in the bed, and rightly so —— sadly- sadly capp! i daddy to be in the . bed, and rightly so —— sadly capp! sadly capp! i daddy to be in the - bed, and rightly so —— sadly capp! i daddy~ _ bed, and rightly so —— sadly capp! i daddy~ i_ bed, and rightly so —— sadly capp! i daddy. i haven't _ bed, and rightly so —— sadly capp! i daddy. i haven't seen _ bed, and rightly so —— sadly capp! i daddy. i haven't seen gabriella - bed, and rightly so —— sadly capp! i daddy. i haven't seen gabriella fori daddy. i haven't seen gabriella for the past _ daddy. i haven't seen gabriella for the past two — daddy. i haven't seen gabriella for the past two years _ daddy. i haven't seen gabriella for the past two years because - daddy. i haven't seen gabriella for the past two years because she i daddy. i haven't seen gabriella for. the past two years because she was in iran— the past two years because she was in iran with my— the past two years because she was in iran with my parents— the past two years because she was in iran with my parents and - the past two years because she was in iran with my parents and she - the past two years because she was in iran with my parents and she leftj in iran with my parents and she left iran in iran with my parents and she left iran in— in iran with my parents and she left iran in 2019. — in iran with my parents and she left iran in 2019. so— in iran with my parents and she left iran in 2019, so lots _ in iran with my parents and she left iran in 2019, so lots of— in iran with my parents and she left iran in 2019, so lots of catching - in iran with my parents and she left iran in 2019, so lots of catching upi iran in 2019, so lots of catching up and it— iran in 2019, so lots of catching up and it was— iran in 2019, so lots of catching up and it was lovely— iran in 2019, so lots of catching up and it was lovely to _ iran in 2019, so lots of catching up and it was lovely to hold _ iran in 2019, so lots of catching up and it was lovely to hold her, - iran in 2019, so lots of catching up and it was lovely to hold her, see| and it was lovely to hold her, see her, _ and it was lovely to hold her, see her. braid — and it was lovely to hold her, see her. braid her— and it was lovely to hold her, see her, braid her hair. _ and it was lovely to hold her, see her, braid her hair. my— and it was lovely to hold her, see her, braid her hair. my parents i and it was lovely to hold her, see i her, braid her hair. my parents were relieved. _ her, braid her hair. my parents were relieved. i_
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her, braid her hair. my parents were relieved, i must _ her, braid her hair. my parents were relieved, i must admit, _ her, braid her hair. my parents were relieved, i must admit, i— her, braid her hair. my parents were relieved, i must admit, i felt - her, braid her hair. my parents were relieved, i must admit, i felt like . relieved, i must admit, i felt like my mum — relieved, i must admit, i felt like my mum would _ relieved, i must admit, i felt like my mum would be _ relieved, i must admit, i felt like my mum would be very- relieved, i must admit, i felt like my mum would be very upset - relieved, i must admit, i felt like| my mum would be very upset but relieved, i must admit, i felt like - my mum would be very upset but she was not. _ my mum would be very upset but she was not. she — my mum would be very upset but she was not. she was— my mum would be very upset but she was not, she was so— my mum would be very upset but she was not, she was so happy— my mum would be very upset but she was not, she was so happy that - my mum would be very upset but she was not, she was so happy that this. was not, she was so happy that this whole _ was not, she was so happy that this whole thing — was not, she was so happy that this whole thing is — was not, she was so happy that this whole thing is over. _ was not, she was so happy that this whole thing is over. the _ was not, she was so happy that this whole thing is over. the only- was not, she was so happy that this whole thing is over. the only thingl whole thing is over. the only thing which _ whole thing is over. the only thing which was — whole thing is over. the only thing which was bothering _ whole thing is over. the only thing which was bothering my _ whole thing is over. the only thing which was bothering my mum - whole thing is over. the only thing which was bothering my mum and| whole thing is over. the only thing - which was bothering my mum and dad was my— which was bothering my mum and dad was my presence _ which was bothering my mum and dad was my presence in— which was bothering my mum and dad was my presence in the _ which was bothering my mum and dad was my presence in the flat, - which was bothering my mum and dad was my presence in the flat, living - was my presence in the flat, living with them — was my presence in the flat, living with them for— was my presence in the flat, living with them for the _ was my presence in the flat, living with them for the past _ was my presence in the flat, living with them for the past two - was my presence in the flat, living with them for the past two years, i was my presence in the flat, livingi with them for the past two years, it was my— with them for the past two years, it was my accent— with them for the past two years, it was my accent that _ with them for the past two years, it was my accent that was _ with them for the past two years, it was my accent that was bothering l was my accent that was bothering them _ was my accent that was bothering them more — was my accent that was bothering them more than _ was my accent that was bothering them more than anything - was my accent that was bothering them more than anything else - was my accent that was bothering| them more than anything else but they are _ them more than anything else but they are very— them more than anything else but they are very happy— them more than anything else but they are very happy that - them more than anything else but they are very happy that i'm - them more than anything else but they are very happy that i'm back. regarding — they are very happy that i'm back. regarding travelling _ they are very happy that i'm back. regarding travelling back- they are very happy that i'm back. regarding travelling back to - they are very happy that i'm back. i regarding travelling back to iran... you know— regarding travelling back to iran... you know my— regarding travelling back to iran... you know my opinion _ regarding travelling back to iran... you know my opinion on _ regarding travelling back to iran... you know my opinion on that! - regarding travelling back to iran... you know my opinion on that! it. regarding travelling back to iran... i you know my opinion on that! it took me six— you know my opinion on that! it took me six years — you know my opinion on that! it took me six years to— you know my opinion on that! it took me six years to come _ you know my opinion on that! it took me six years to come back, - you know my opinion on that! it took me six years to come back, i- you know my opinion on that! it took me six years to come back, i think. you know my opinion on that! it took me six years to come back, i think i. me six years to come back, i think i would _ me six years to come back, i think i would be _ me six years to come back, i think i would be very. _ me six years to come back, i think i would be very, very— me six years to come back, i think i would be very, very cautious - me six years to come back, i think i would be very, very cautious about| would be very, very cautious about when _ would be very, very cautious about when i'm _ would be very, very cautious about when i'm going _ would be very, very cautious about when i'm going to— would be very, very cautious about when i'm going to book— would be very, very cautious about when i'm going to book a - would be very, very cautious about when i'm going to book a ticket. i when i'm going to book a ticket. could _ when i'm going to book a ticket. could you — when i'm going to book a ticket. could you hand _ when i'm going to book a ticket. could you hand at _ when i'm going to book a ticket. could you hand at the _ when i'm going to book a ticket. could you hand at the mike - when i'm going to book a ticket. could you hand at the mike to l when i'm going to book a ticket. i could you hand at the mike to the gentleman behind you, please crush myjonathan rugman from channel 4. welcome, it is great to see you. practically— welcome, it is great to see you. practically we are hearing that a new iran — practically we are hearing that a new iran nuclear deal is quite close — new iran nuclear deal is quite close you _ new iran nuclear deal is quite close. you have a platform now to
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say what _ close. you have a platform now to say what you think perhaps it should be in it— say what you think perhaps it should be in it because, as you said, there are a _ be in it because, as you said, there are a lot _ be in it because, as you said, there are a lot of— be in it because, as you said, there are a lot of political prisoners in iran are a lot of political prisoners in iran and — are a lot of political prisoners in iran and i— are a lot of political prisoners in iran and i wondered what you thought the bare _ iran and i wondered what you thought the bare minimum was in terms of releases— the bare minimum was in terms of releases of— the bare minimum was in terms of releases of your fellow prisoners, so that _ releases of your fellow prisoners, so that others don't get trapped? | so that others don't get trapped? [ think so that others don't get trapped? think it so that others don't get trapped? i think it would be a very difficult question— think it would be a very difficult question to _ think it would be a very difficult question to ask— think it would be a very difficult question to ask me. _ think it would be a very difficult question to ask me. i— think it would be a very difficult question to ask me. i will- think it would be a very difficult question to ask me. i will looki think it would be a very difficult. question to ask me. i will look at it at my— question to ask me. i will look at it at my own— question to ask me. i will look at it at my own perspective - question to ask me. i will look at it at my own perspective and - question to ask me. i will look at| it at my own perspective and that question to ask me. i will look at i it at my own perspective and that is that i_ it at my own perspective and that is that i have — it at my own perspective and that is that i have been _ it at my own perspective and that is that i have been a _ it at my own perspective and that is that i have been a pawn— it at my own perspective and that is that i have been a pawn in- it at my own perspective and that is that i have been a pawn in the - it at my own perspective and that isl that i have been a pawn in the hands of the _ that i have been a pawn in the hands of the two _ that i have been a pawn in the hands of the two governments _ that i have been a pawn in the hands of the two governments over- that i have been a pawn in the hands of the two governments over the - that i have been a pawn in the handsl of the two governments over the past six years _ of the two governments over the past six years i_ of the two governments over the past six years idid— of the two governments over the past six years. i did follow— of the two governments over the past six years. i did follow the _ of the two governments over the past six years. i did follow the story - six years. i did follow the story for the — six years. i did follow the story for the passage _ six years. i did follow the story for the passage very _ six years. i did follow the story for the passage very closely i six years. i did follow the storyi for the passage very closely and that is— for the passage very closely and that is because _ for the passage very closely and that is because i— for the passage very closely and that is because i was _ for the passage very closely and that is because i was told - for the passage very closely and that is because i was told many| that is because i was told many times— that is because i was told many times that _ that is because i was told many times that miles _ that is because i was told many times that miles storey - that is because i was told many times that miles storey is - that is because i was told manyl times that miles storey is linked that is because i was told many- times that miles storey is linked to that, which— times that miles storey is linked to that, which shouldn't _ times that miles storey is linked to that, which shouldn't have - times that miles storey is linked to i that, which shouldn't have happened. i that, which shouldn't have happened. idon't _ that, which shouldn't have happened. idon't think— that, which shouldn't have happened. i don't think anybody's _ that, which shouldn't have happened. i don't think anybody's life _ that, which shouldn't have happened. i don't think anybody's life should - i don't think anybody's life should be linked — idon't think anybody's life should be linked to— i don't think anybody's life should be linked to a _ idon't think anybody's life should be linked to a global— i don't think anybody's life should be linked to a global sort - i don't think anybody's life should be linked to a global sort of - be linked to a global sort of agreement— be linked to a global sort of agreement on, _ be linked to a global sort of agreement on, whether- be linked to a global sort of agreement on, whether it. be linked to a global sort of| agreement on, whether it is be linked to a global sort of - agreement on, whether it is nuclear, environmentm — agreement on, whether it is nuclear, environment... every— agreement on, whether it is nuclear, environment... every human - agreement on, whether it is nuclear, environment... every human being . agreement on, whether it is nuclear, l environment... every human being has
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the right— environment... every human being has the right to _ environment... every human being has the right to be — environment... every human being has the right to be free _ environment... every human being has the right to be free and _ environment... every human being has the right to be free and what _ environment... every human being has the right to be free and what really- the right to be free and what really upset _ the right to be free and what really upset me _ the right to be free and what really upset me all— the right to be free and what really upset me all these _ the right to be free and what really upset me all these years _ the right to be free and what really upset me all these years is - the right to be free and what really upset me all these years is that. the right to be free and what really| upset me all these years is that my life was— upset me all these years is that my life was linked _ upset me all these years is that my life was linked to _ upset me all these years is that my life was linked to something - upset me all these years is that my life was linked to something whichi life was linked to something which has got _ life was linked to something which has got nothing _ life was linked to something which has got nothing to _ life was linked to something which has got nothing to do— life was linked to something which has got nothing to do with - life was linked to something which has got nothing to do with me. - life was linked to something which| has got nothing to do with me. we went— has got nothing to do with me. we went through — has got nothing to do with me. we went through ups _ has got nothing to do with me. we went through ups and _ has got nothing to do with me. we went through ups and downs, - has got nothing to do with me. we went through ups and downs, the i went through ups and downs, the country— went through ups and downs, the country is — went through ups and downs, the country is getting _ went through ups and downs, the country is getting very _ went through ups and downs, the country is getting very close, - went through ups and downs, the | country is getting very close, then falling _ country is getting very close, then falling apart, _ country is getting very close, then falling apart, then _ country is getting very close, then falling apart, then there _ country is getting very close, then falling apart, then there is- country is getting very close, then falling apart, then there is a - country is getting very close, then falling apart, then there is a war. i falling apart, then there is a war. why do— falling apart, then there is a war. why do we — falling apart, then there is a war. why do we have _ falling apart, then there is a war. why do we have to _ falling apart, then there is a war. why do we have to pay— falling apart, then there is a war. why do we have to pay a - falling apart, then there is a war. why do we have to pay a price i falling apart, then there is a war. | why do we have to pay a price for that? _ why do we have to pay a price for that? i_ why do we have to pay a price for that? i think_ why do we have to pay a price for that? i think the _ why do we have to pay a price for that? i think the remaining - why do we have to pay a price for that? i think the remaining dual. that? i think the remaining dual nationals— that? i think the remaining dual nationals in_ that? i think the remaining dual nationals in iran, _ that? i think the remaining dual nationals in iran, their- that? i think the remaining dual nationals in iran, their story- nationals in iran, their story should — nationals in iran, their story should not_ nationals in iran, their story should not be _ nationals in iran, their story should not be linked - nationals in iran, their story should not be linked to - nationals in iran, their story should not be linked to any| should not be linked to any political— should not be linked to any political or— should not be linked to any political or international. political or international agreement _ political or international agreement. human - political or international l agreement. human rights political or international - agreement. human rights should political or international _ agreement. human rights should not be something — agreement. human rights should not be something that _ agreement. human rights should not be something that people _ agreement. human rights should not be something that people will- agreement. human rights should not be something that people will look. be something that people will look into as _ be something that people will look into as a _ be something that people will look into as a side — be something that people will look into as a side kind _ be something that people will look into as a side kind of— be something that people will look into as a side kind of story - be something that people will look into as a side kind of story when i into as a side kind of story when they— into as a side kind of story when they are — into as a side kind of story when they are doing _ into as a side kind of story when they are doing big _ into as a side kind of story when they are doing big deals. - into as a side kind of story when they are doing big deals. it - into as a side kind of story when they are doing big deals. it hasi into as a side kind of story when. they are doing big deals. it has to be on _ they are doing big deals. it has to be on its — they are doing big deals. it has to be on its own. _ they are doing big deals. it has to be on its own, independently, - they are doing big deals. it has to be on its own, independently, a l they are doing big deals. it has to. be on its own, independently, a big issue _ be on its own, independently, a big issue to _ be on its own, independently, a big issue to be — be on its own, independently, a big issue to be solved. _ be on its own, independently, a big issue to be solved. so _ be on its own, independently, a big issue to be solved. so i _ be on its own, independently, a big issue to be solved. so i was - be on its own, independently, a big issue to be solved. so i was the - issue to be solved. so i was the lucky— issue to be solved. so i was the lucky one — issue to be solved. so i was the lucky one who _ issue to be solved. so i was the lucky one who came _ issue to be solved. so i was the lucky one who came home. - issue to be solved. so i was the i lucky one who came home. there issue to be solved. so i was the - lucky one who came home. there are so many— lucky one who came home. there are so many people — lucky one who came home. there are so many people who _ lucky one who came home. there are so many people who are _ lucky one who came home. there are so many people who are remaining. lucky one who came home. there are so many people who are remaining in iran so many people who are remaining in iran in— so many people who are remaining in iran in prison— so many people who are remaining in iran in prison and _ so many people who are remaining in iran in prisonand i_ so many people who are remaining in iran in prison and i think— so many people who are remaining in iran in prison and i think their- iran in prison and i think their story— iran in prison and i think their story has— iran in prison and i think their story has to _ iran in prison and i think their story has to be _ iran in prison and i think their story has to be separately- iran in prison and i think their. story has to be separately dealt with and — story has to be separately dealt with and not— story has to be separately dealt with and not with _ story has to be separately dealt with and not with any _ story has to be separately dealt i with and not with any international agreement — with and not with any international agreement-— with and not with any international aareement. , agreement. please could you be quite short, i am conscious _
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agreement. please could you be quite short, i am conscious i _ agreement. please could you be quite short, i am conscious i am _ agreement. please could you be quite short, i am conscious i am keeping i short, i am conscious i am keeping them longer than i said i would. gm? them longer than i said i would. amy gibbons from — them longer than i said i would. amy gibbons from pa, _ them longer than i said i would. amy gibbons from pa, nazanin, it is wonderful— gibbons from pa, nazanin, it is wonderful to see you back. i wonder if i wonderful to see you back. i wonder if i could _ wonderful to see you back. i wonder if i could ask— wonderful to see you back. i wonder if i could ask you more about your return— if i could ask you more about your return to — if i could ask you more about your return to the uk and specifically the first — return to the uk and specifically the first place you read, first meal you had, _ the first place you read, first meal you had, first tv show and how you drained _ you had, first tv show and how you drained about doing the school run. i drained about doing the school run. i don't _ drained about doing the school run. i don't suppose you had a chance? and idon't suppose you had a chance? and what— i don't suppose you had a chance? and what you think will be the most difficult _ and what you think will be the most difficult thing about adjusting to being _ difficult thing about adjusting to being back home. gn difficult thing about ad'usting to being back home._ difficult thing about ad'usting to being back home. difficult thing about ad'usting to bein: back home. ., , ., being back home. on any of those, i haven't been — being back home. on any of those, i haven't been home _ being back home. on any of those, i haven't been home yet! _ being back home. on any of those, i haven't been home yet! i— being back home. on any of those, i haven't been home yet! i was - being back home. on any of those, i haven't been home yet! i was living | haven't been home yet! i was living in a suitcase — haven't been home yet! i was living in a suitcase for— haven't been home yet! i was living in a suitcase for the _ haven't been home yet! i was living in a suitcase for the past _ haven't been home yet! i was living in a suitcase for the past six - in a suitcase for the past six years. — in a suitcase for the past six years. in _ in a suitcase for the past six years, i'm still— in a suitcase for the past six years, i'm still living - in a suitcase for the past six years, i'm still living in- in a suitcase for the past six years, i'm still living in a . years, i'm still living in a suitcase _ years, i'm still living in a suitcase and _ years, i'm still living in a suitcase and so - years, i'm still living in a suitcase and so my - years, i'm still living in a i suitcase and so my husband years, i'm still living in a - suitcase and so my husband has years, i'm still living in a _ suitcase and so my husband has been picking _ suitcase and so my husband has been picking up— suitcase and so my husband has been picking up nry— suitcase and so my husband has been picking up my clothes. _ suitcase and so my husband has been picking up my clothes. i— suitcase and so my husband has been picking up my clothes. idon't- suitcase and so my husband has been picking up my clothes. i don't know, i picking up my clothes. i don't know, ithink— picking up my clothes. i don't know, i think the _ picking up my clothes. i don't know, i think the school— picking up my clothes. i don't know, i think the school run _ picking up my clothes. i don't know, i think the school run is— picking up my clothes. i don't know, i think the school run is something i i think the school run is something i think the school run is something iwill— i think the school run is something i will look— i think the school run is something i will look forward _ i think the school run is something i will look forward to _ i think the school run is something i will look forward to because - i think the school run is something i will look forward to because i - i will look forward to because i want _ i will look forward to because i want to— i will look forward to because i want to get— i will look forward to because i want to get to _ i will look forward to because i want to get to know— i will look forward to because i want to get to know her- i will look forward to because i | want to get to know her friends i will look forward to because i - want to get to know her friends and the community— want to get to know her friends and the community better, _ want to get to know her friends and the community better, but - want to get to know her friends and the community better, but i - want to get to know her friends and the community better, but i also i the community better, but i also think— the community better, but i also think it _ the community better, but i also think it will — the community better, but i also think it will have _ the community better, but i also think it will have a _ the community better, but i also think it will have a lot _ the community better, but i also think it will have a lot of - think it will have a lot of adjustment, _ think it will have a lot of adjustment, you - think it will have a lot of adjustment, you know, i think it will have a lot of - adjustment, you know, getting to know— adjustment, you know, getting to know each— adjustment, you know, getting to know each other, _ adjustment, you know, getting to know each other, getting - adjustment, you know, getting to know each other, getting into - adjustment, you know, getting to| know each other, getting into each others— know each other, getting into each other's rhythms— know each other, getting into each other's rhythms so _ know each other, getting into each other's rhythms so we _ know each other, getting into each other's rhythms so we will- know each other, getting into each other's rhythms so we willjust - know each other, getting into each| other's rhythms so we willjust take it very— other's rhythms so we willjust take
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it very slowly — other's rhythms so we will 'ust take it very slowly.— it very slowly. this is a very local question- — it very slowly. this is a very local question. first _ it very slowly. this is a very local question. first of _ it very slowly. this is a very local question. first of all, _ it very slowly. this is a very local question. first of all, just - it very slowly. this is a very local question. first of all, just so - question. first of all, just so thrilled _ question. first of all, just so thrilled that you are back and the whole _ thrilled that you are back and the whole community is going to be really— whole community is going to be really thrilled you are back, after nrarching — really thrilled you are back, after marching with richard protesting. do you have _ marching with richard protesting. do you have plans to stay in london or are you _ you have plans to stay in london or are you thinking, we mightjust kind of get _ are you thinking, we mightjust kind of get out _ are you thinking, we mightjust kind of get out of london and start a new life somewhere else? i of get out of london and start a new life somewhere else?— life somewhere else? i think we are valannin life somewhere else? i think we are planning to — life somewhere else? i think we are planning to stay _ life somewhere else? i think we are planning to stay in _ life somewhere else? i think we are planning to stay in london - life somewhere else? i think we are planning to stay in london for- life somewhere else? i think we are planning to stay in london for the l planning to stay in london for the time _ planning to stay in london for the time being — planning to stay in london for the time being-— planning to stay in london for the time being. could i go to you first are sittin: time being. could i go to you first are sitting down? _ time being. could i go to you first are sitting down? it _ time being. could i go to you first are sitting down? it is _ time being. could i go to you first are sitting down? it is working - are sitting down? it is working doing it row by row. yes, please. tom harwood, gv news. it has obviously— tom harwood, gv news. it has obviously been such an awful ordeal in iranr _ obviously been such an awful ordeal in iranr you — obviously been such an awful ordeal in iran, you say there are so many others— in iran, you say there are so many others with— in iran, you say there are so many others with your situation. is it a little _ others with your situation. is it a little worrying that the government has been _
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little worrying that the government has been seen to pay iran in exchange _ has been seen to pay iran in exchange for people being returned to the _ exchange for people being returned to the united kingdom and is there a concern _ to the united kingdom and is there a concern there that it might encourage more hostagetaking potentially in the future? | encourage more hostagetaking potentially in the future? i am the cham - ion potentially in the future? i am the champion on _ potentially in the future? i am the champion on that, _ potentially in the future? i am the champion on that, tom. _ potentially in the future? i am the champion on that, tom. there - potentially in the future? i am the champion on that, tom. there is i potentially in the future? i am the | champion on that, tom. there is a moral hazard, without doubt. a legal debt is not a ransom, but the guys that took nazanin will be patting themselves on the back and saying we did well, you know, let's squeeze roxanne's dad, that is undeniable. it is a challenge for the government, for the international community generally, to deal with state hostagetaking. that can't be done just with carrots. it can't. it is a balance and it needs to be worked out and one of the
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conversations you have heard me say on your shows, on others, the government needs to be brave and being brave also means being tough. that's not a conversation to have right now but i think, in fairness to the foreign affairs committee review, should they choose to do one, i think that would be a valuable way to explore it because there are no easy answers to this and my view has had a lot of mileage. not everyone agrees. and, actually, you know, how does one deal with tricky policy questions? it takes a village, just like getting nazanin home so i think it is worthwhile having that conversation in a brave, open and honest way and we will see where it takes us. , _, ,. ., , ., takes us. very conscious of time, i am keeping _ takes us. very conscious of time, i am keeping them _ takes us. very conscious of time, i am keeping them for _ takes us. very conscious of time, i am keeping them for very - takes us. very conscious of time, i am keeping them for very long. i takes us. very conscious of time, i l am keeping them for very long. the gentleman at the back was very eager and then there are three more. thea
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and then there are three more. theo lsherwood. — and then there are three more. theo isherwood, lbc. _ and then there are three more. theo isherwood, lbc. nazanin, _ and then there are three more. theo isherwood, lbc. nazanin, whetherany moments— isherwood, lbc. nazanin, whetherany moments of— isherwood, lbc. nazanin, whetherany moments of kindness from those guarding — moments of kindness from those guarding yourself in prison and how do you _ guarding yourself in prison and how do you feel— guarding yourself in prison and how do you feel towards those who kept you captive? i�*m do you feel towards those who kept you captive?— do you feel towards those who kept ou cative? �* ., ., ., ., , you captive? i'm not going to answer that question. _ you captive? i'm not going to answer that question, i'm _ you captive? i'm not going to answer that question, i'm so _ you captive? i'm not going to answer that question, i'm so sorry. - you captive? i'm not going to answer that question, i'm so sorry. the - that question, i'm so sorry. the lady standing — that question, i'm so sorry. the lady standing op. _ that question, i'm so sorry. lady standing up, please. that question, i'm so sorry. the lady standing up, please. lucyl lady standing up, please. lucy fisher from — lady standing up, please. lucy fisher from time's _ lady standing up, please. lucy fisher from time's radio. - lady standing up, please. lucy fisher from time's radio. thanks in part to _ fisher from time's radio. thanks in part to richard's remarkable campaigning, your faces really well known _ campaigning, your faces really well known in _ campaigning, your faces really well known in the uk and i wonder if you had found _ known in the uk and i wonder if you had found so— known in the uk and i wonder if you had found so far you are being recognised a lot in public and also how you _ recognised a lot in public and also how you think you might cope with, frankly. _ how you think you might cope with, frankly, your fame.— frankly, your fame. gabriella told me on the _ frankly, your fame. gabriella told me on the phone _ frankly, your fame. gabriella told me on the phone one _ frankly, your fame. gabriella told me on the phone one day - frankly, your fame. gabriella told me on the phone one day when i | frankly, your fame. gabriella told - me on the phone one day when i was still in _ me on the phone one day when i was still in iranr — me on the phone one day when i was still in iran, mummy, _ me on the phone one day when i was still in iran, mummy, you _ me on the phone one day when i was still in iran, mummy, you realise - still in iran, mummy, you realise you are _ still in iran, mummy, you realise you are very— still in iran, mummy, you realise you are very famous _ still in iran, mummy, you realise you are very famous and - still in iran, mummy, you realise you are very famous and then - still in iran, mummy, you realise you are very famous and then it. still in iran, mummy, you realisei you are very famous and then it is me and _ you are very famous and then it is me and then _ you are very famous and then it is me and then it— you are very famous and then it is me and then it is— you are very famous and then it is me and then it is daddy. - you are very famous and then it is me and then it is daddy. i- you are very famous and then it is me and then it is daddy. i said, i me and then it is daddy. i said, finer _ me and then it is daddy. i said, fine, but — me and then it is daddy. i said, fine, but it's— me and then it is daddy. i said, fine, but it's not— me and then it is daddy. i said, fine, but it's not good - me and then it is daddy. i said, fine, but it's not good to - me and then it is daddy. i said, fine, but it's not good to be - fine, but it's not good to be famous. _ fine, but it's not good to be famous. you _ fine, but it's not good to be famous, you want- fine, but it's not good to be famous, you want to - fine, but it's not good to be famous, you want to have l fine, but it's not good to be famous, you want to have a fine, but it's not good to be - famous, you want to have a normal life and _ famous, you want to have a normal life and she — famous, you want to have a normal life and she said, _ famous, you want to have a normal life and she said, oh, _ famous, you want to have a normal life and she said, oh, you - famous, you want to have a normal life and she said, oh, you won't - famous, you want to have a normal life and she said, oh, you won't be| life and she said, oh, you won't be famous _ life and she said, oh, you won't be famous forever, _
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life and she said, oh, you won't be famous forever, maximum - life and she said, oh, you won't be famous forever, maximum a - life and she said, oh, you won't be| famous forever, maximum a week. life and she said, oh, you won't be - famous forever, maximum a week. so i will have _ famous forever, maximum a week. so i will have a _ famous forever, maximum a week. so i will have a weaker _ famous forever, maximum a week. so i will have a weaker fame _ famous forever, maximum a week. so i will have a weaker fame and _ famous forever, maximum a week. so i will have a weaker fame and then- famous forever, maximum a week. so i will have a weaker fame and then we i will have a weaker fame and then we will have a weaker fame and then we will have _ will have a weaker fame and then we will have a _ will have a weaker fame and then we will have a normal— will have a weaker fame and then we will have a normal family. _ will have a weaker fame and then we will have a normal family. taro - will have a weaker fame and then we will have a normal family.— will have a normal family. two other journalists. — will have a normal family. two other journalists, who _ will have a normal family. two other journalists, who was _ will have a normal family. two other journalists, who was next? - will have a normal family. two other journalists, who was next? hannah i journalists, who was next? hannah somervell from _ journalists, who was next? hannah somervell from iran _ journalists, who was next? hannah somervell from iran while. - journalists, who was next? hannahl somervell from iran while. nazanin, the friendships you developed in prison, — the friendships you developed in prison, is— the friendships you developed in prison, is there anyone you can name who you _ prison, is there anyone you can name who you came — prison, is there anyone you can name who you came particularly close to and do _ who you came particularly close to and do you — who you came particularly close to and do you have any message you would _ and do you have any message you would like — and do you have any message you would like to convey to them now? yes, _ would like to convey to them now? yes. there — would like to convey to them now? yes, there are people who came out of prison— yes, there are people who came out of prison in— yes, there are people who came out of prison in the _ yes, there are people who came out of prison in the time _ yes, there are people who came out of prison in the time i— yes, there are people who came out of prison in the time i was— yes, there are people who came out of prison in the time i was inside, i of prison in the time i was inside, that i_ of prison in the time i was inside, that i was— of prison in the time i was inside, that i was in— of prison in the time i was inside, that i was in iran _ of prison in the time i was inside, that i was in iran under— of prison in the time i was inside, that i was in iran under house - that i was in iran under house arrest — that i was in iran under house arrest. thankfully, _ that i was in iran under house arrest. thankfully, they- that i was in iran under house arrest. thankfully, they came that i was in iran under house - arrest. thankfully, they came out of prison, _ arrest. thankfully, they came out of prison, but— arrest. thankfully, they came out of prison, but the _ arrest. thankfully, they came out of prison, but the conservation - arrest. thankfully, they came out of prison, but the conservation list, . prison, but the conservation list, if i prison, but the conservation list, if i am _ prison, but the conservation list, if i am correctly— prison, but the conservation list, if i am correctly mentioning - prison, but the conservation list, if i am correctly mentioning the i if i am correctly mentioning the name. — if i am correctly mentioning the name. the _ if i am correctly mentioning the name, the family— if i am correctly mentioning the name, the family of— if i am correctly mentioning the name, the family of morad. -
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the male section, we did not have any contact — the male section, we did not have any contact with _ the male section, we did not have any contact with them _ the male section, we did not have any contact with them but - the male section, we did not have any contact with them but we - the male section, we did not have any contact with them but we goti the male section, we did not have i any contact with them but we got to see their— any contact with them but we got to see their families— any contact with them but we got to see their families and _ any contact with them but we got to see their families and she _ any contact with them but we got to see their families and she could - any contact with them but we got to see their families and she could to i see their families and she could to be very. _ see their families and she could to be very. very— see their families and she could to be very, very close _ see their families and she could to be very, very close to _ see their families and she could to be very, very close to them - see their families and she could to be very, very close to them so, i see their families and she could toi be very, very close to them so, like i be very, very close to them so, like i said. _ be very, very close to them so, like i said. the _ be very, very close to them so, like i said, the meaning _ be very, very close to them so, like i said, the meaning of— be very, very close to them so, like i said, the meaning of freedom - be very, very close to them so, like i said, the meaning of freedom is. i said, the meaning of freedom is not going — i said, the meaning of freedom is not going to _ i said, the meaning of freedom is not going to be _ i said, the meaning of freedom is not going to be complete - i said, the meaning of freedom is not going to be complete until. i said, the meaning of freedom is. not going to be complete until such a day— not going to be complete until such a day that— not going to be complete until such a day that they— not going to be complete until such a day that they are _ not going to be complete until such a day that they are all— not going to be complete until such a day that they are all outside - not going to be complete until such a day that they are all outside and, | a day that they are all outside and, at the _ a day that they are all outside and, at the moment, _ a day that they are all outside and, at the moment, i— a day that they are all outside and, at the moment, i am _ a day that they are all outside and, at the moment, i am with - a day that they are all outside and, at the moment, i am with them . a day that they are all outside and, at the moment, i am with them in| at the moment, i am with them in spirit _ at the moment, i am with them in spirit but — at the moment, i am with them in spirit but i — at the moment, i am with them in spirit but i am— at the moment, i am with them in spirit but i am not _ at the moment, i am with them in spirit but i am not going _ at the moment, i am with them in spirit but i am not going to - at the moment, i am with them in spirit but i am not going to let- at the moment, i am with them in spirit but i am not going to let thej spirit but i am not going to let the torch _ spirit but i am not going to let the torch be _ spirit but i am not going to let the torch be down _ spirit but i am not going to let the torch be down until— spirit but i am not going to let the torch be down until they- spirit but i am not going to let the torch be down until they are - spirit but i am not going to let the torch be down until they are back| spirit but i am not going to let the . torch be down until they are back on torch be down until they are back on to their— torch be down until they are back on to their families. _ torch be down until they are back on to theirfamilies. last— torch be down until they are back on to their families.— to their families. last question, lease. to their families. last question, please- high- — to their families. last question, please. high. ultimately, - to their families. last question, please. high. ultimately, liz. to their families. last question, i please. high. ultimately, liz truss is the foreign _ please. high. ultimately, liz truss is the foreign secretary _ please. high. ultimately, liz truss is the foreign secretary who i please. high. ultimately, liz truss is the foreign secretary who got i please. high. ultimately, liz trussi is the foreign secretary who got you back, _ is the foreign secretary who got you back, why— is the foreign secretary who got you back, why do you think she has succeeded _ back, why do you think she has succeeded where everybody else has failed _ succeeded where everybody else has failed and _ succeeded where everybody else has failed and you feel confident she will be _ failed and you feel confident she will be able to get other dual nationals like roxanne's father home? — nationals like roxanne's father home? i— nationals like roxanne's father home? ~' ., nationals like roxanne's father home? ~ ., ., ., home? i think i would rather not answer any _ home? i think i would rather not answer any political _ home? i think i would rather not answer any political questions. i home? i think i would rather not| answer any political questions. it is very— answer any political questions. it is very difficult _ answer any political questions. it is very difficult for— answer any political questions. it is very difficult for me. _
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answer any political questions. it is very difficult for me. it's - answer any political questions. it is very difficult for me.— is very difficult for me. it's in the question. _ is very difficult for me. it's in the question. i _ is very difficult for me. it's in the question. i think- is very difficult for me. it's in the question. i think a i is very difficult for me. it's in i the question. i think a number of liz trusstried hard, try different things and are grateful to the current foreign secretary that she got it over the line and feeling a little bit guilty about giving her such a hard time when she took the job, but may be that worked and i think, yeah, i don't know if it is confidence but absolute hope that she can get roxanne's dad back and the others and i think we should be grateful to herfor the others and i think we should be grateful to her for having the others and i think we should be grateful to herfor having done it and let us hope that that becomes a pillar of herforeign and let us hope that that becomes a pillar of her foreign policy going forwards, that she keeps brits save, whether it is in ukraine or afghanistan, places where people are vulnerable, that it is something the uk does, it looks out for people. thank you, everyone has been very well behaved and it has worked smoothly but i'm going to ask the
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panel if there is anything they want to say that they didn't get asked about. roxanne? you are ok, all right. richard? in about. roxanne? you are ok, all right. richard?— about. roxanne? you are ok, all right. richard? in my longest bank is, i didn't mention _ right. richard? in my longest bank is, i didn't mention any _ right. richard? in my longest bank is, i didn't mention any of - right. richard? in my longest bank is, i didn't mention any of the i is, i didn't mention any of the legal teams who did huge work for us. someone sitting in this room. so, for all of the different legal teams, you know, who did a good job of keeping the government honest. it is an important part of the conversation, what actually should a government do in this context? i think you know, human rights often gets treated as some sort of nice, cosy rhetoric. it is really important, our rights and, yeah, just for keeping us all safe, so we are deeply indebted to everyone who helped that happen. flan i are deeply indebted to everyone who helped that happen.— helped that happen. can i say thank ou and helped that happen. can i say thank you and can — helped that happen. can i say thank you and can i _ helped that happen. can i say thank you and can ljust — helped that happen. can i say thank you and can ijust say _ helped that happen. can i say thank you and can i just say thank- helped that happen. can i say thank you and can i just say thank you i you and can i just say thank you once again to the speakers office, who worked really hard, sasha, alice and the whole of the speakers office and the whole of the speakers office and my team as well, there is a lot
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of work that goes on behind the seams and an empty... office. the most remarkable 15 minutes. nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe speaking to the media for the first time since her release from iran last week. her husband, richard, as well. he talked about her courage, her bravery and, at the beginning, he talked about her grace and i think thatis talked about her grace and i think that is what we have seen from her, incredible grace from nazanin as she talked about what she has been through, the black hole that is in her heart that will always be there. she said it is too difficult to talk about what she has been through, it will haunt her forever, it is never going to leave her but she is very much focusing on the positivity of coming home. lots of praise for her husband, richard, because of his campaigning and he very much of course says it was nice to be retiring after the success of his campaign for her release and they talked about the delight of spending
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time with their daughter gabriella, who was in the front row. a quick pointerfor you, we are going to be taking your questions on the war in ukraine, this friday, at 1130 gmt. you can get in touch on twitter using the hashtag and you can e—mail using the hashtag and you can e—mail us as well. and... you can reach me on twitter — i'm @lucyhockingsbbc. we look forward to getting your questions and hope we can answer them for you on friday. that is all from me, thanks so much for being with us. hello there. the dry and sunny weather of the weekend will continue to hang around this week for a good part of it. there will be a bit more cloud at times and a small chance of a shower, but overall dry and sunny for the vast majority. it's also set to become warmer. just to show you the chart
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across europe how temperatures compare to normal. we will see them rise quite substantially here and across the north—west. we could see temperatures around five degrees, if not more, above average. the coldest weather for europe remains across some southern parts of the mediterranean. also the wettest. we had some frost to start the day, there was cloud in the west. that means it hasn't been as cold here, but it's a bit cloudier than we saw through the weekend. that cloud could produce the odd isolated shower throughout the day, drifting northwards and eastwards. sunniest of all, parts of north and eastern mainland scotland to north—east england, and this afternoon across southern counties of england, where we will see the highest of the temperatures. up to 17. a bit chilly around those eastern and northern coasts of scotland. into tonight, still clumps of cloud drifting northwards, showers here and there. in the clearer skies, still the chance of a touch of frost. the air is getting that little bit
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warmer bit by bit, so not as cold to start tomorrow morning. one or two showers around, maybe one or two developing in northern england, southern scotland into the afternoon. for most, long spells of sunshine, clear blue skies for many into the afternoon. we will all feel warmer, a mild enough start to wednesday morning, there could be some mist and low cloud by the stage around north sea coasts of the north and east of scotland. air quality starting to deteriorate. and we could see one or two showers into the afternoon. by this stage, 20 degrees, if not more, across england and wales, 18 and 19 in the north—west of scotland.
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the breeze picks up. a bit cloud more across eastern coasts so it will be
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the british—iranian woman nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe, held for almost six years in tehran, speaks of her ordeal. in her first interview since she was freed last week, she said her release should have happened six years ago. coming back to a daughter who is nearly eight, i left her when she was not even two. there is a whole lot to catch up with richard and gabriella and getting to know them better. also this lunchtime, ukraine rejects a russian deadline for mariupol�*s defenders to lay down their arms in exchange for safe passage out. it comes as civilians dig graves in the street, following weeks of russian bombardment that's left residents with no power or running water. a man goes on trial charged with murdering conservative mp sir david amess as he met constituents last year.

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