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flames engulfed a 63-story luxury hotel. thousands of people have been gathering in the area ahead of fireworks show. despite the incident, the display went on. tens of thousands of people whistled and cheered the pyrotechnics. some one million people gathered to watch the show. there have been plenty more colorful new year's celebrations around the world. moscow held a fireworks show to usher in the new year. this what it looks like at the pyramid in egypt. has an incredible display over the sydney harbour bridge. celebration being held this year with extra precautions. unprecedented security called for new year's eve. they are not aware of
a terrorist attack being planned but ask the public to avoid chain stations. 6000 police officers deployed to the areas, about 800 more than usual. another million people will gather there. global news 24 hours a day powered by bloomberg journalist in more than 150 news bureaus around the world. ♪ cory: i'm cory johnson. this is a special new year's edition of "bloomberg west." investors calling for apple to diversify its product line, but it's mostly white male executives.
microsoft will now notify users about government hack attacks and we will continue our conversation with linkedin founder reid hoffman. now to the lead, apple being criticized for not being diverse enough. here's the play-by-play. bloomberg news just learned a recruitment proposal submitted by an investor calling on the company to recruit more people of color to high-profile role to increase diversity. apple responded, saying it rejects the proposal, calling an attempt to micromanage recruitment. the ball is now an apple's court, and the company has to decide if it should bring the matter to a vote, which would culminate in a shareholder meeting. david ruddiman from endurance .apital partners joins us now
sarah, first to you. this is interesting, shareholders getting involved in the discussion that has been taking place. sarah: right, this guy who submitted the proposal only owns about 645 shares. not a huge shareholder, but his son saw a picture of apple's board and asked why all the .eople are white there's one black man and one asian woman on the board, but still, maldon auto feels it's a little too vanilla. auto -- maldonado feels it's a little too vanilla. cory: can anyone bring race things? david: apparently so. with one share, you get a vote. obviously, this individual felt there was a call for action. well, talent,ry
the best and the brightest are sought after here in the bay area. i think, from china with its supplier blaze -- supplier base, i cannot think of acompany that in many ways is role model, albeit not perfect, but some -- certainly one of the best. day use ofin their renewable energy, but really holding itself out as a moral leader in certain ways, and i wonder if that is part of the dammed if you do, dammed if you that they put themselves out in this way. sarah: i'm not quite sure i agree. looking at apple's executive team, maybe they have a couple of people on their board who could be considered minorities, but looking at their executive team, it's a lot of white guys in silicon valley. this is a big issue that has
been called out in recent years, and apple executives have actually become less diverse in recent years. i think as a leader in silicon valley, especially as they try to be a leader in diversity or it could not are, hurt to show for it. that said, do they deserve to have a shareholder proposal but puts it into the rules for the company? there is something to be said. cory: tim cook has talked about this and said they are working hard to expand recruiting efforts, and he has talked about making a recruiting effort in that regard. he goes on to say expanding their recruiting efforts and they continue to hire talented people. i guess that is the main point. he said some groups are currently underrepresented, but they know is a lot more work to be done, acknowledging that very fact. david, when you make these investments in these companies,
there's a difference now in that the conversation is not just about representing different groups but about having a company that is run with diversity so that you really understand the broad base of potential for consumer products. david: i would also say a company that is global. case of apple, china is its fastest growing market segment. it's not just ethnic diversity. i think it's global diversity. cory: exactly. the only asian on the , the only woman on the board, she also has not been a great executive leader. avon's results under her tenure when all that great. talk about expending recruiting, but it's another thing to keep and retain people who can help make it a diverse organization and help change the culture. former apple to
employees who say as diverse as apple wants to be, they say that they care, it's another thing to say, "this person can talk at a meeting just as much as you can," to really change the dynamic of the company. criticized for not having a woman on the board for a long time, it brings in a header diversity from apple who is also a white dude. onah: they do have a woman the board now. they had a top engineer leave said thatack, and it's not a good place to be a black engineer. cory: thank you very much. has a newlso artificial intelligence system, but it has proven to be a little more artificial than intelligent. --ystematic glitch had users
that it violated the developer agreement. ceo jack dorsey went on to praise the service for holding government accountable, so it's back. microsoft is cracking down on snoopers, announcing it will cloud serviced users if a government-backed hacker targeted them. the policy closely mirrors those google,in place at facebook, twitter, so why did they wait until now? david still with us. let me start with you -- this is fairly interesting, that microsoft -- looks like they just got out and buy a story by reuters, but this went to the top levels at microsoft. >> they were definitely i think behind the eight ball a bit, and they really need to focus as
cyber security becomes a bigger issue. this is a situation where they need to be more proactive, especially with some of the china threats, and i think it ataks to a new era microsoft, when they take off the rose-colored glasses, step in the right direction, issue a mea culpa, and make sure does not happen again. cory: we have seen a number of enterprise tech companies talk about the difficulty they have had telling into china and into europe after the revolution -- revelations they work .ooperating with the nsa i wonder if that was part of it, microsoft saying it could really screw up there business in china if they do something that will take off the china government. been asecurity has must-spend in 2015. cyberattacks coming from nation states. cory: a year ago, we sat here
talking about north korea and sony. that was the big story a year ago today. --id: you have international intellectual property theft, the hit as system being well, and the eu now saying that banking needs to stay in the eu. you're going to move hosting of data to local regions -- collett the post-edward-snowden in fact -- effect. creating opportunities for you? david: you bet, long and short. you are seeing one of the top-performing names this year has been palo alto networks. you also have, quite frankly, some of the data centers that are building out regional data centers, so that the processing stays in those geographies and meets eu regulations. cory: interesting.
do you think there is some financial motivation, that this was about protecting their business in china and microsoft was keeping their eye on that ball, not the needs of the customers? daniel: china was the golden goose, and this was under the ballmer era. you have seen across the businesses, which is why it has toe from a glass half-empty glass half full. now they move forward. it's really not just about china, but as they rochus more on the cloud, they need to have customers and enterprising consumers comfortable with microsoft does that cloud player, and this is part of the target by 2018, and it is the .eason they had been successful this is one of those -- it was a mistake and now you take a step forward and make sure it does not happen again.
that is just another thing we have seen in this era -- transparency is key, versus the cloak and dagger days under ballmer. cory: you have covered microsoft for a long time. what do you make of this, and is there a different tone? david: i think they have improved morale. you have seen a retooling of the business model. the cloud service could be a competitor to what amazon is and even moving office 365 to an ipad platform environment, not protecting the golden goose of windows forever. very important strategic moves and also a positive shareholder governance. you have a dividend yield -- let's not forget, the year just ended. we had a down s&p 500 year. the only return was from dividends. i think he'll-related stocks
like microsoft will continue to work in 2016 -- i think yield -related stocks like microsoft will continue to work in 2016. for: i want to thank daniel joining us. david, stay with us a little bit. me about what worked long and short. david: the absolute all star performers were what you might call new technologies. facebooktflix, amazon, -- cory: calling amazon new technology because of aws? david: yes, and it decided it wanted to start showing a profit. what's interesting about aws is you have a platform which is cannibalizing old tech. look what happened to the likes of hp.
delvin and went private -- adele -- dell ran and went private. there was net value destruction and value creation in some of these newer areas. , you it's interesting mentioned microsoft's competitor web services, but the way amazon web services is blowing a hole through .nterprise tech sun portionard, the of oracle sun, ibm, train wreck -- all these companies may be isfering because of what aws doing. david: your whole here was bringing a series of cloud companies on to "bloomberg
west." i think amazon is the name to watch in 2016. with aws, you have an 8 billion monday platform that accounts for 60% of the operating profit for amazon but is absolutely disintermediation the price of compute and storage. there is not one start up between here and san jose that does not have to consider aws venturey go to get funding. wi-fi hardware? why buy compute? it is a faster, quicker way to get into business. cory: what we were talking about before, the snowden effects -- i have looked at businesses like this as terrible businesses because they have huge capital expenditures and not a lot of them andiators between competitors, but maybe that runs counter to trend. if you have to build data centers everywhere for political and governmental reasons, not necessarily business reasons.
place,the cloud has a and it's called a data center. you just have to walk into one of these. maybe you will do a segment on it. you see the interconnection of connectsd those cross are what create the franchise value. it's all about hosting and speed and access, and that is where the data centers are really having an impact, but the snowden effect -- there is another investment name we have been involved with called cyberarc, an israeli tech company. you already have authorization to access the bloomberg network, but you are a bad guy -- both are true. david: they may be. i will let hr deal with that. basically, they watch what you do, so that there is not another
.nowden effect the interesting thing about cyber security is there are different levels and forms of security. important growth area. cory: interesting stuff. always good to see you, especially done up like this. look at the cufflinks. fabulous. up, sidecar ceases operations today. what will happen to employees? and reports of yet another potential merger for liberty global. details to come. ♪
the daily mail saying discussions are under way encouraging malone, the companies to pursue a deal. turning now to the sharing economy, lots of activity this week. sidecar officially shutting down operations today, falling to competition from uber and lyft. what is the potential impact? employees leave these startups. joining us is the ceo of of counsel, an online marketplace for legal services -- the ceo of upcounsel. you have the contractors, which is kind of what i want to talk to you about. you also have employees who are taking lower salaries in the hope that stock options will work out.
in both cases, i think we are starting to see some litigation. absolutely. 2015 definitely hallmarked a number of litigious infants for some of these on-demand services . cory: warms the cockles of a lawyer's soul. matt: absolutely. typically, when a company does not have any money, they are not really a great target. where we are seeing the instance of a lot of these lawsuits are of the world and these on-demand companies that are flush with cash. redefining or questioning how we think about employment and what are the definitions of employment. cory: in our parents' generation, it was you get a job, and you have that job for most of your life. 3, 4, 5 your entire life.
have 4, 5, 6ople all at the same time, clocking in and clocking out whenever they want, and that's pushing boundaries of how lawmakers not about the things. as people about this out, we have seen employers come forward and bring lawsuits. evolvedgal protections in a very difficult way and did not adapt for this new world where this no full-time employment, contractor economy, or this notion of stock options and so on. matt: at least on the contractor versus employer side of things, it relates to the on-demand economy and how we are looking at 2016 and how a lot of these on-demand companies are looking at 2016. first and foremost, you have to remember this is really limited to california, with some exceptions, right? that's not a big surprise. california has always been very liberal when it comes to employee rights. a lot of states have said they are not ready to go there yet,
and many are just sitting on the sidelines waiting for other states to figure this out. it's pretty limited to california with some exceptions. the second is that these models can still work with full-time employees. you have seen a lot of companies bring all their employees on as full-time employees, so they can work as long as they make the unit economics work for the business. cory: thank you very much. in an interesting conversation. 2015 ended with a fizzle on wall street. all those details next on "bloomberg west." ♪
netflix and amazon among the best performers for the year. abigail doolittle has all the details. l: it is been a big year at the nasdaq, the only major u.s. equity indexed to close in the green for 2015. a big piece of this strength is that tech sector. one of the top three performing sectors within the nasdaq composite index. and much of this outperformance came from the big internet companies, including amazon, netflix, facebook and alto that. -- and alphabet. not justop performer, of the big internet companies but of the nasdaq 100 was netflix. 135%,s close up by driven by strong subscriber growth. but netflix was not the only big internet company to pull a double. amazon more than doubled this year. it is amazing.
consider this time last year, amazon was trading closer to $300. now finishing the year closer to $700. a triple digit stock pulling a double. a big piece of this is investors amazon web services unit or the company's move into the cloud. we take a look at facebook. the stock carved out a new record high as investors really like what they saw around the mobile advertising growth. not all stocks fared well. some real weakness around s hip names including applied materials and intel all closing down. micron was a worst-performing stock in the nasdaq 100, down 60%. and lastly, let's touch on apple. for the first time since 2008, shares of apple are closing down on the year. much of this is around investor concerns about the potential for slowing demand for the iphone in 2016.
analysts bullish on this name. it will be interesting to see what the new year does in fact bring for apple. was bloomberg's abigail doolittle. one of the biggest issues debated in 2015 has been the question are we in a technology bubble? emily chang coats that question to lots of people, including .inkedin cofounder >> in some ways, we are in a bubble. in some ways we are not. the key thing, it tends to be a private market bubble. in the private market doubled not have as much private market impact. it is not something that when you hearken back to 2000, 2001, you worry about quite as much. emily: so, we are in a bubble on the private markets but not in the public market? >> a quasi bubble. emily: i talk to your colleague who said something
similar. marc andreessen saying we are in a long-term bust and tech is undervalued. why is there such a diversity of opinion? reid: i think the question comes down to is how much do you believe that new things will be invented, that will be solutions that are not invented yet? inherently, you think the network -- you can build companies from essentially an idea to something really globally relevant in three years, four years, five years. dropbox, theser, new companies. they can move very fast to global relevance. they can be important to affect all industries. case that the bull says we will create more of those. technology will be part of the solution not part of the problem. and that's what we should focus on. on the other hand come enough to go, ok, a lot of investors are betting on this broadly.
so you get valuations where you look at a valuation and you go, why is that value that way? the answer is people are not distinguishing very sharply between which companies benefit from a globalized network age and which companies do not. . that is the key issue that breaks between the polls and the bears. emily: our clients are really interested in this topic. is it really subjective whether or not we are in a bubble? 1999, no one would dispute in retrospect. one disputes bubbles in retrospect. that is not actually the test. clearly, that was artificially inflated and had a re- correction that was serious. the question comes down to, look, it looks like some of these valuations are high especially on the private market. died yo side. that one seemed a little crazy. you can see things where pri
vate valuations have been much higher than when companies go public. with the public markets not being affected as much. so you get those kinds of things look, there areoo clearly some elements of a private bubble. however, the key things comes down to is i think we are going to see more of these companies that go from zero to a billion a decaden less than that actually in fact have global impact. cory: we also asked about the future of social networks and snapchat. named as one of his biggest missed opportunities. here is reid hoffman explaining why there is still room for more players and social media. reid: i think so. we obviously have a macro evolution to networks oto mobile. people are spending a lot of
time with it. those macro channels continue to be vigorously in an upward direction. things i think it is great about snapchat -- i am not on the board there -- they clearly demonstrated an ability to invent new products like stories and other kinds of things that create the new products, here is a new social product that everybody pays attention to and starts building their own version of. that's very good evidence for a strong future. emily: do you see social networking is a much more sort of disparate thing, or will players?a few dominant instagram, web chat and snapchat -- it is too much. it seems to me it cannot possibly be sustainable because i will make a choice and choose two or three. reid: there are a lot of people in the world. if everyone makes the same choices, i agree with you. it's probably 325.
-- three to five. however, some people say, in fact, like for example, teens the disappearing content matters to me. that helped me create privacy. other people. i don't snapchat. so, that is not our three to five. hree to five.ir to fiv who's list of three to five is different. emily: what does worry you? what times i you're seeing that are of concern? i would say the primary thing i would pay attention to is we have seen a lot of really great companies traded five to eight years ago. what are the companies being created now? which areas will they be? for example, everyone knows we
are continuing a trend toward the mobile universe, but we have not seen a breakout company and the last couple years. is that because they are not going to happen? or is that because we are not finding them? as a venture capitalists we are looking to see, it is a mobile world, what else is coming? i also think that the questions of some of the questions the more hard tech, more car companies in addition to tesla, which is great. i have two. both in fn and x. theknow, but also, in intersection of biology and other kinds of things that will have macro impact. will we have more of those kinds of companies? it is mostly, i'm an optimist. what are the new things to build? emily: it is interesting you say there has not been a mobile breakout company for the last couple years. as somebody who gets a first look at anything you want, you probably have the best rolodex in silicon valley. that would concern me. reid: yeah.
although, there are just cycle sometimes. maybe in fact it is the right invention has not happened. maybe the fact is mobile distribution is still very difficult to figure out because unlike the web, which is relatively an open platform, the mobile ecosystem is more closed platforms. more driven by a fairly maybe apertures are getting the right critical mass is more challenging. maybe that is something we will figure out how to make that happening. pen ecosystem creates more interesting thing. cory: we will hear more from the linkedin cofounder later in the show. 140 characters may have been too many for bill miller in the threird quarter. optionsaged bets buying in hard-hit technology companies. miller known for buying stock in
the mutual fund. it worked well for him with apple and amazon. but miller's appear to have less success with similar wagers on twitter, reminding that leverage works both ways. opportunity trust double down in twitter in the third quarter. slidling.tock ding. those same contracts trading 1.40. leaving the calls even further out of the money. you are watching "bloomberg west ." a major milestone for uber. the clock's important trip. lucky passenger wind and unusual reward in the driver as well after the break. ♪
welcome back. you are watching "bloomberg west ." let's get more on our linkedin chairman reid hoffman. emily chang asked about the importance of thinking global off the bat. reid: you're naturally global. to launch linkedin, we put 13 countries in the drop down because we had not realized how quickly we would be global. we started adding countries from the very first day, because people would say my country is not in your list. ok, let's fix that. countries.ose
a personal geography lesson. there is a whole stack of companies that are global anyway. if small tweaks are small things that will steal away your focus on product, allow you to go global sooner, that can be very useful. globally.as dominant if they said we are just focused on the u.s., they may not have gone to this extraordinary ecosystem they got to. the last one is you think about global matters in terms of critical mass. some companies like uber say, is a huge know it amount of work to go global really fast but that is important to do. there are other companies where you say onno, just domestic right now. it is a different market fit. emily: it is interesting you should mention uber. because uber and airbnb have
different strategies. in china, uber says they want to incorporate. airbnb says they want to keep it in-house. reid: the reason i used uber, is airbnb has a global network affect that's useful. people travel between countries. if you have a bunch of residencies in europe of the u.s., singapore, then people who traveled there actually in fact, that's a global network affect and that is very useful. expandy naturally globally. they do not have to do as much hard-core work as uber does. emily: uber has a harder job in airbnb? interesting. i was wondering when you use that word natural, how much of airbnb do think feeds itself. you have done so much work on
marketplaces and networks, how much does airbnb capitalize on its own momentum? reid: i think the benefit is it is the way the world should be. as people encounter it, they realize it is like there are bunch of things where we are actually have unique experience, a social experience and that just staying in generic hotels is not the only kind of travel experience. it provides economics and liquidity for hosts, such that they can now, it raises their income. they can afford the mortgage better. it creates more cultural and connected experience for the travelers. so, all of that is the way the world should be. there are obvious the questions about trying to make sure zoning is codone right. all of that stuff really matters but that is the way the world should be. so, i don't, uh, i think that part of that whole kind of, like the metaphor using is -- [indiscernible]
establishment of community. that establishment of a longing that is the mission statement of airbnb. but i think that actually compounds naturally because it compounds to human social connections. emily: why does uber have to work harder? reid: because the uber network is much more naturally local to a city. so, that means it is just as easy to say there could be a halo of london or, like, different regions. so they are already established pute, they have to intensive effort into the growing of each specific city which is part of what uber developed as launching city teams with the playbook. they have done it extraordinarily well. that was linkedin cofounder reid hoffman with emily chang. hasxample of how well uber done since starting up five and half years ago. the ride cherry company just billionths 1
year, netflix doing parents a solid. children are itching to celebrate the new year late into the evening. parents itching to get those kids to bed. so, neff looks as created, get this. six specials that countdown the end of the year. you do not have to wait until midnight. tell the kid it is the end of the year, run the special, the countdown. this year, they are doing six of these specials, each focused on a different animated character. they did one last year. it is quite a hook up you can get on your gun of celebration and get the kids out of your hair. those celebrations may include champagne for a lot of people on new year's day. bubbly might not be the best. you want to make sure you bring the bus. is calleduse delectable. and first, let's start with delectable. it is a fascinating technology play. some real serious data crunching where you basically do what? >> we launched about four years
ago. and the premise was how can we help people learn about win in a fun way. so, ok, first challenge -- how do you know what you have had and how do you relay that to others? we built image recognition technology. this is the core function of delectable. you take a photo of a bottle of wine. we identified for you. we can identify that bottle right there. cory: you may remember if you drink this entire bottle of this 2009 champagne. thanks to delectable. >> there is a personal scrapbooking element to it. we do the data crunching so that e photos that win we have identified, you can search and sort and have a record of what you have and what you like and where your drinking is going. we ebban and flow. the other big component that has
gotten a lot of intention -- attention is the social element which is natural to wine. just as your are posting, you can post to share publicly. one of the points of difference is probably because of our great image recognition technology a ton of wine professionals use delectable. cory: and serious collectors, too. seth, a friend of mine, also a great shopper of wine. he's good at auctions. i love seeing the stuff he has discovered. >> it is fun to learn from each other. you get to see if any stained in your wine drinking expiration that the world is not flat. you will encounter things on delectable -- i didn't intend that. i like that. cory: you launched a new app. banquet a launched
couple weeks ago. it has been a crazy holiday season. one of the challenges we wanted to address and delectable is, ok, i loved this bottle of wine. where can i get it? how can i get it? am i getting a from somewhere reputable? banquet is an extension of delectable. it's focused exclusively on wine e0 commerce. to be partnered with a number of really truly amazing retailers around the country. so, all of the places that me being a wine nerd to my core, i have crushes on all these stores. in new york, one of my favorite is morel wines. cory: rockefeller center. >> as well as frankly wines in new york. that is a small shop. here in san francisco, ruby wines. kermit lynch is one of our
partners. it is a really cool way to, i've only entered my credit card information oonce. i never have to do it again. super painless checkout. i can shop from all of these stores. we'll expand the retail partners -- "the pulse corycan you devon cory: can you demonstrate how simple it is? all i want to show off is the great stuff. i do not effect -- vibrating cheap stuff -- >> with delectable, i take a photo. i see if it likes i've just taken this. there you go. cory: it recognizes what it is instantly. it looks at the year. the technology behind this is amazing. >> wine is really, katie, actually. really complicated, actually. hopefully what he can do is take out some of the annoying and add more fun. cursiveis is written in
and in french and it recognizes it just like that. has it gotten a lot better? >> it has. one of the things i love it you can take a variety of angles. it is a little tricky if you choose to get very artistic with your shots. and there are lots of other things in there. but the more images we have for any given wine, the better it tends to be at recognition. cory: just in time why don't we toast the new year? head of content and delectable. toast to you, toast to all of our viewers. hope you had a great european hope next year is even better for everybody out there. you have been watching "bloomberg west." happy new year, everyone. cheers. >> happy new year. ♪ bring your family and friends together
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