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♪ from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." leaders from around the world gather today for the second second united states general assembly. in the most anticipated speech, president trump addressed global forum for the first time. he threatened to totally to shore and called iran a rope nation. the unitedrump: states has done very well since election day last november 8. the stock market is at an all-time high, a record.
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unemployment is at its lowest level in 16 years. because of our regulatory and other reforms, we have more people working in the united states today than ever before. of bothat a time immense promise, and great peril. up to us, whether we lift the world to new heights, or let it fall into a valley of disrepair. the united states will forever be a great friend to the world, and especially to its allies. but we can no longer be taken advantage of, or enter into a one-sided deal where the united states gets nothing in return. has great states strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy
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north korea. rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. it is an outrage that some nations would not only trade with such a regime, but with arms supply and financially support a country that in perils the world with nuclear conflicts. masks aian government, corrupt dictatorship is tight -- behind the false guise of a democracy. it has turned a wealthy country with a rich history and culture into a economically depleted rogue state louche chief exports are violent, bloodshed, and chaos. the iran deal was one of the worst and most one-sided transactions the united states has ever entered into. frankly, that deal is an
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embarrassment to the united states, and i do not think you have heard the last of it, believe me. agreementabide by an if it provides cover for the eventual construction of a nuclear program. governmentiran's must stop supporting terrorists, and again serving its own people, and respect the sovereign rights of its neighbors. the president also said the united states was prepared to take further action on venezuela. joining me to talk about all of this is the president of eurasia group. editor in chief of the economist magazine. i am pleased to have them both. so, the president's speech, what did you think. zanny: one level was vintage trump. this is what you would expect. the great rocket man is on a suicide mission. typical the speech is. it is not the speech that eddie
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and is used to. if you compare it to his campaign speech or inauguration speech, i think he was in some ways less america first. on the campaign he said the u.n. was a disaster and why would anyone have anything to do with it. today he said it was an an investment worth making. charlie: even though u.s. paid a lot more than every other country. goin many ways it did not down well. this swedish minister said wrong speech, wrong time, wrong audience. it depends on where you're coming from. atyou compare it to trump home, this was not particularly surprising or out of the ordinary. trump's speech to the joint a,ssion of congress was an and riyadh was in a minus, so i generally agree with zanny.
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generally, this is a well read, will delivered an ok crafted speech. we did not have this steve bannon economic nationalism, the identity politics, but you absolutely got a lot of steve miller on iran and north korea. charlie: iran, i thought to take off like he did on iran -- ian: they have clearly been projecting this. i think the bigger issue is that, the united nations is an organization that was formed by the americans in our image. it is our values, it is universal and human rights. it is being wasted for and got our allies behind us. there have been president tsai have had challenges with the trump istorically, but sort of antithetical to the u.n. he does not support the values. he think value based on alliances allow our allies to
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treat us like patsies, take advantage for us -- take advantage of us. someone likeve that, who is truly a unilateralist, who says this is about sovereignty -- the kind of speech you would -- you would expect from the chinese 20 years ago, that is a much bigger turn than the iran stuff. zanny: what is interesting, and --e off the steve miller trying, not fulfill -- not succeeding, there was an attempt to suggest that the u.n. has always been a place for benign nationalism and that is what the u.n. was all about. in some sense i think, does he actually know why the u.n. was founded? emmanuelsten to macron, who speech was about multilateralism, that was never uttered by the president.
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i suspect nobody in the audience recognize that. he defined america first as being sovereignty, security and prosperity. he said, look,t we have problems that threaten us all and we need to work together on those problems. zanny: yes, but we need to work abouter -- it is all putting our nation first, putting ourselves first. there was no sense of what his -- his vision of the u.n. as about a group of countries coming together and trying to solve problems or he thinks there are problems to be solved, but there was nothing about the broader, multinational -- multilateralist that the u.n. is. define problems that are big and if you can find a coalition of the willing, then we engage. trumpth korea, that approach has so far borne some fruit.
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15 country sitting around a table as round as this agreeing levels ofprecedented sanctions against the north korean regime. trump's administration deserves credit, so does kim jong-un own, but it is important for talking about what the u.n. is for. it is for trying to stop wars from happening. they are trying to build a better planet. zanny: it is universal. a colleague of mine said he thought that trumps view of the u.n. was a posse of cowboys going after bag eyes. he get the guys together and you go after bag eyes. -- bad guys. i think the general view of the the postwartwar -- order was that it was in america's interest to set up a liberal international order of institutions and rules. it depends on what you mean by a countries in light and self interest.
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in the view that trump has talked about, it is right here, right now, this country, the situation. ian: you can say you are a and say iindustry have the responsibility to maximize shareholder return this quarter, so i will do everything possible, i will cut back all of those people, i will turn it. or you could say my share responsibility is to be a steward of the skunk -- company with all the people who have worked for it. trumps definition of stewardship of the united states in the united nations is the former. it is the responsibility of summary that understands real estate. sometimes, and may be particularly with iran, some areas it will be ok. if you look at something like climate change, this is where it breaks down. he looks at one deal and says it is not in our interest, we are out. whereas the broader multilateralism of the u.n. says
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this is the best thing to have come up with. charlie: there are two ideas that have been introduced. one is that the united states kid -- may be re-looking at the paris accord. h.r. mcmaster suggested that in the weekend interview. thinking about suggesting that they would not necessarily withdraw from the iran nuclear deal. zanny: i think the latter is very plausible. the interesting thing is -- it is clearly able from a lot of bombast at the beginning of the administration creating huge uncertainty. what would happen, what is this new unilateralist american approach? there isa sense that not as much dangerous stuff to it as we see it. people are not quite certain, no one is sure because a twitter brown president, no one is sure where he will go next. i agree with you that in reality, the change in u.s. position has been less dramatic than one might have expected
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seven or eight months ago. some of the uncertainty creates its own damage. if you are outside the u.s., you worry about whether you can rely on the u.s. now. the iran issue. trump has said on many occasions that this is a horrible deal, we have been bamboozled, swindled, the iranians are cheating. he particularly hated having to certify that the iranians have been living up to the deal. he then said afterward, they are really not. not the spirit and probably not the reality. behind the scenes, i have heard the white house is try to come up at the mechanism whereby they do not certify, but they do not actually pull out from the deal that would allow trump to say, they need to be doing this. that the french government, the british government, the saudi's, the israelis, behind the scenes are telling trump, bad deal, but do not pull out.
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if you do, everyone else is sticking with it and we will be in a much worse place. i think the trump administration understands this. charlie: that is the reason to not pulling out? ian: yes. things, trump understands he does not know what he is doing. when trump was running for president he said nato is obsolete. after he said he is committed to nato. he said, i said that because tok then no one would talk me about nato, i just did not know. i have never seen trump admit that he does know anything about health care, or did not know anything about tax care or trade. our national security issues i think he is more willing to let the generals do it. frankly, that should give some comfort to a lot of the allies that are not so sure about the unrelenting tweaked, and the fact that we do not -- tweet, and the fact that we do not have an adult. zanny: we should all welcome an
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administration that is more normal than one might have feared, or lester medically different. outside of the u.s., particularly in countries that are traditionally allies, the trump rand is a toxic rent that it is domestically much harder for those governments to avertly be seen to close to trump. the german election, angela merkel will almost certainly win next weekend, but the chiefs guy on the opposition has been hammering her for saying she is too close to the president. there is that way in which america under president trump has become part of domestic politics in alexandria's, which is not helping. korea, this south is becoming a serious problem. charlie: in terms of countries simply do not have credibility? they have any trouble believing him? ian: yes.
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it is affecting the politics inside those countries. you can as an opposition member use as a club to help yourself, the fact that you are more anti-trump and anti-american than the president who is caught in with the establishment and doing it to align his own politics, or whatever the reason is. zanny: that is a horrible irony if the president ends up being much less america first isolationism been people see it. i think you are right that the administration is becoming more normal. and less dramatic image changes. the damage politically has already been done and the sunset public opinion is very anti-trump. ♪
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♪ charlie: so where are we with respect to north korea today? i feel ok about north korea. the fact that we have had some statements by trump and nikki haley that's a we are running out of rope and that if they do not behave we will destroy them, i think it is both posturing, at the end of the day it is fantasyland. i don't believe we have realistic military options against the north koreans, given our allies in the region and what we would expose them to. the process of trying to corral the largest possible group, all of whom seen north korean actions as prophetical to their own interest -- in a world that is as the world as
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today, it is almost impossible to get a 15-0 vote on anything in the security council. yet we are consistently doing it with north korea. trump, not because of that is because everyone recognizes this is the only process that has a chance of working. charlie: what do those 15 votes should just we do if sanctions don't work? ian: they suggest we maintain sanctions. we would probably tried it entice them with carrots. what eventually happens in north korea is, we live with the fact that they are a nuclear power, as we have with pakistan, as we have with india. i know north korea's worse than those countries in terms to the threat to international -- charlie: stability in japan. meaning they were not respond? ian: as long as the americans are continuing to provide a
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feasible and believable nuclear umbrella. are very opposed to nuclear weapons. i do think the potential to do a deal with north korea is not until the north koreans feel like they have hit enough technological capacity that they are safe from any possible first strike attack from the americans. zanny: i agree with you that it is probably less dangerous than we have been worrying about in the last few weeks, particularly. with that said, i think they are going to -- they are well on their way -- we will have to treat them as a nuclear power. the four we get there, i think deterrence work from being extremely clear and disciplined in statements. we are not there yet on the u.s. side. i do worry, even now about the possibility of miscalculation. will be anynk there ,ig preemptive strikes, but there is room for miscalculations on both sides.
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there are people who say, we cannot let them get there a we have to act. charlie: you think the north koreans continue to do that because they don't think u.s. threats seriously -- they don't take u.s. threat seriously. we have to do something to get their attention, there were serious about this? zanny: i have never met kim jong-un, i am not a north korean specialist, but there are several things going on. one is, this is an individual fore entire family generations now has built itself to thepart in opposition united states. the last two years, the development of the nuclear program has been not just a way of maintaining power -- it is a huge -- it is not just that they will stop if they feel if they are taking seriously, it is a big part of north korea. that is why they will be stopped from reaching nuclear capacity
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is unlikely. was veryought it interesting, the last time the north koreans tested a missile that went over through japanese airspace -- here in the united states was the biggest headlines. in japan i was looking at their lead show and there were six top topics and it was not one. i think the fact is, the japanese and the south koreans with northiving korea, the has the ability to decimate them for a long time. now that their principal ally the united states is paying you have the ability to hit the united states, now we have to do something. we might have to take military action that would devastate our allies. that does not play well in that part of the world. zanny and i have talked about this, the fact that the united states ultimate policies will not be so
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different than they were, but the way that we are approaching them, the american first language that it is all being couched in is leading to a much faster unwind of these alliances. charlie: will there be an iranian reaction to what they heard today? zanny: there may have been one already. strong: it is a rather denunciation. it was more than evil empire. zanny: it was a strong denunciation, but against the backdrop laid out in a general view that the likelihood of precipitate action by the united states is actually going down day by day. i suspect there will be a collaborative response. today, i thought it was not nearly as strong as it could have been. charlie: did he know? ian: he knew what was coming. thiss, let's be clear, if deal is unwound, if the
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americans palau, the conditions by which we were deciding to non-proliferate are going to been be different. beare going to then different. he sounded the way the chinese sound it when they responded to the taiwanese call. they show they were angry, but they would not do anything precipitous until they saw action. yes the letter is terrible, but if the president most away from blowing up the nuclear accord, then iran is sitting rather pretty. the rest of his middle east strategy is completely muddled. blowe one hand he wants to this up because he was to undo president obama's legacy. if you are looking at where iran is likeng interest, it syria where the u.s. has no way of responding because they want to get out. charlie: he is having a hard time. he was able to, repeal health care.
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he may go back to the paris accord, may hear it thirdly, he may leave the iranian nuclear deal. those are the three tenants of the obama -- ian: idol the will go back on paris. charlie: it has two years. ian: there is that and the issue that so many cities and states and the corporations in the united states have already said we will uphold it anyway. the ability of trump to make -- you and i talked about this right after the election. at the end of the day, as much as trump is off the rails ideologically as a president, the ability of them to move the ability on policy is much more limited. the markets are reflecting that. charlie: has china stepped into a vacuum? ian: no. china recognizes that they have greater opportunities in their notyard because trump is consistent on things like trade,
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not consistent on what he says on security. the chinese -- number one, they are not ready to be the global leader. they do not want to step their head over. also, the chinese are deeply concerned about instability that could come from trump and the way the russians like it. cany: i think one thing we agree on. there are not stepping into in over leadership role, but they are very much there and they are making the most of the vacuum created by the u.s. their whole infrastructure expansion. in the region, but beyond their region. charlie: here is an interesting thing. the three of us are at the same event over the weekend and we heard -- i thought an intelligent voice in the american military say, the most important relationship in the united states may very well be with india. zanny: i thought that was extremely interesting. over decades, it is a democracy, a very fast-growing country.
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i would say, in the next decade, 15 years, i would not give it to china. you would accelerator opening to india? zanny: yes. charlie: you to. we need to focus on its allies -- you think about allies. we need to focus on its allies. big hugs, big japanese investment. they will develop a high-speed rail and his home state, talking about security cooperation. the indians are playing more of a geopolitical role. i was as surprised as you were when we heard the official make that comment about india. that also depends on a united states. in 10 or 20 years time, they want to continue to play the global strategic war and pay for it. i don't all that i would bet a lot on that, yet. the underlying,
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perhaps the biggest question, hastrump administration taken a step change in america's attitude towards the rest of the world. it may not be as -- as extreme as a month ago. the question is, does the world move on sufficiently. ? secondly, does america want to do that? whatve americans view of americans role is changed in a way that, for instance, america's traditionally been the champion of a global trading system. i cannot see very many free traders here in either party. sure, either domestically or in terms of where the rest of the world is, that after the administration, whether in three and a half years, or seven and a half years, we go back to what everyone talks about as being the kind of america. there are very large pieces of the american power establishment that believes that once trump goes,
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weakening get back to status quo anti-on both of these things. i am deeply skeptical given how fast the world moves, and how fast our allies are not sure, and where the average american is. at the 2020, and 2024 results will allow us -- bc a more extreme populace from the left or the they see a more extreme populace from the left or the right. zanny: all of those are in the american order. a lot of foreign-policy elite in this country think that that is still there to be gone back to. had beenink if bernie president we would not have an expansion of afghanistan troops the way we have now under the trump administration. is an interesting idea to leave for the next session. thank you. zanny: thank you. charlie: back in a moment, stay with us. ♪ who knew that phones would start doing everything?
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? charlie: in a new film, dame judy dench plays queen victoria, someone she has played before in 1994. it focuses on the run chip between queen victoria and her servant teacher. the performance is called irresistible, here is a look at the trailer. >> i have almost a billion
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citizens, i have been in office -- the longest-serving monarch in history. are we finished? >> you will travel to the royal household, you will present the queen with a ceremonial coin. >> whatever you do you must not look at her majesty. >> prime minister, you are really terribly depressing. >> yes. >> your majesty. >> i feel a great deal better. how do you like your costumes? >> they are very scratchy. >> everything here is scratchy. what is a mis-? i would like a mango. no one knows what it's like to be queen.
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what is the point? >> we are here for a greater purpose. >> you are a servant no longer, you will teach me urdu -- urdu. >> are you insane? >> greedy, fat, disagreeably attached to power, but i am anything but insane. i am queen of england, empress of india. abdul is here on his own merits,
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now he is my friend. >> i'm surprised. >> what is it? >> a mango, your magisty. it's off. >> this mango is off. charlie: welcome. i am pleased to have dame judy dench here with director stephen frears. stephen: i am innocent, they turned up with the script. charlie: i asked you about queen victoria, and i said how would she feel about queen elizabeth and you said she liked very few people. judy: yes, but in a funny way this film may prove that that thing we say about here that she
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said we are not amused, i guess she was amused quite a lot of the time, actually. >> yes, you get that impression from the relationship. judy: you certainly do. we laughed quite a lot, actually. charlie: where does she stand in terms of memorable characters you have for trade on screen, either fictional or real? judy: i don't know. i never know, really. i do it and he tells me how to do it and i get up and do it. and then i fear -- i want to change it. charlie: we will get to that in a moment. tell me how you see her. judy: i see her just in terms of the fact i had an opportunity to play her 20 years ago so i had
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done that kind of homework and thought i knew the story about your. then there is surprised to find that there she was in her 80's and she says all of her friends are dying and still the weight of sovereignty on her shoulders, very much so and getting more difficult every day. god knows we feel it in our 80's more and more difficult every day to carry out her duties. i think quite suddenly this young man turns up and that feeling that has obviously always been in her, that huge zest -- not perhaps for life, but for enjoying somebody's company at ease from everybody else, suddenly it was reawakened. charlie: what was it about him that made him an interesting companion?
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stephen: as i understand that she liked him standing behind her, because he made her look good here at but i think she liked her subjects. she was empress of india then, this idea of learning urdu arrived. charlie: what was he like? judy: a good-looking man. stephen: i made him good-looking. charlie: he was really good-looking, was in the? judy: yes. charlie: what was the magic between them, they could talk to each other, they just liked each other, she was at ease around him, he was at ease around her? stephen: absolutely. the empire was so ridiculous and the court was so absurd and then there was somebody who probably
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wasn't part of it. charlie: this is where she is asking abdul to become her teacher. >> we are not here to worry about ourselves, we are here for a greater purpose. in the koran it says we are here for the good of others. >> the koran? >> yes. i know it by heart . >> isn't it very long? >> most muslim people know the koran. >> i thought you were hindu -- i thought you were hindu. >> i went for my father, he was my teacher. >> we would like you to be the queen's teacher.
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>> i'm only a servant, your majesty. a servant cannot be a teacher. >> you are a servant no longer, you will teach me urdu, the koran, and anything else you can think of. stephen: i think she found him exotic. charlie: what you mean? stephen: my friend said would you like to -- because it was exotic. might have had a point, somebody comes across some any from another country, dressed in extraordinary clothes. charlie: he's different, brings something new? stephen: absolutely. when i met him he came into the room, by the time he left i said, well i can see why judy would like him.
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charlie: you just see her as queen victoria? stephen: yes, but it's not very difficult. she has played her already. they suggested other people and i said don't be silly. charlie: if you want -- stephen: yes. that is a ridiculous idea. charlie: does she remind you -- has she achieved this place -- you're going to hate me for this. has she achieved this place in england where she is almost like royalty? stephen: judy or queen victoria? queen victoria was the most powerful person in the world, so you have to have somebody who can do that. she also appears to be a teenager. the film was always mischievous. here is an actress who can play somebody powerful and is mischievous. charlie: what do we know about how when she became older, she was then queen of all she could
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see and beyond? did she change as she got older? judy: i think she only change because of her relationship with abdul and he gave her several more years of being alive. somebody could teacher to write urdu, to speak it. she could say things, have a joke. how wonderful is that when you are surrounded by people saying yes, no, and hacking away from you. and suddenly able to say i don't want any of you here. i would like to have a quiet time at a cottage -- charlie: do you think she saw him in a romantic way? judy: i think any aspect of everything she could see him, she saw him.
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love, romance, as a mother, she wrote him five times away. charlie: five times a day, while he was away? stephen: no, the other end of the corridor. judy: sometimes mother, sometimes friend, every aspect of affection that she felt for him. charlie: when someone offers you this kind of role, do you instantly say yes? judy: yes. charlie: it doesn't meet any test? judy: no. charlie: you know queen victoria? judy: he knows i will do a bit of -- stephen: on trustworthy. charlie: -- judy: i don't care what the part is. charlie: you'll just take it?
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what is the dynamic of this relationship? stephen: there is no dynamic. i love her, admire her. charlie: she is not your typical british actress. judy: yes, i am. they say what is it like to play queens all of your life, i say i have not played queens all of my life. i played a lot of people who behaved badly. charlie: which do you prefer? judy: the ones who behaved badly, of course.
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stephen: they all say that. charlie: you can have more fun with them, is that it? judy: yes. very often you get -- constantly you play a part and then somebody looks at that and thinks i know what kind of person an old person of 80 could play. i don't want to play an old person. i want to play someone who can walk a tightrope --do you have that part? charlie: no. what i will create it. stephen: everything i like. charlie: yeah. will you go back on stage? judy: who knows. charlie: you would do it any moment if the right thing came along? judy: yes. charlie: you don't need to work, darling?
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judy: i do need to work. charlie: for your pocketbook? judy: certainly not. for my -- yeah, sanity. charlie: for your what? judy: for my force of life. why give up? why give up if you're lucky enough to do a job that you love -- charlie: i am with you. [laughter] charlie: i am all in on this idea. the more you do the better you feel, the better you are. judy: yes.
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stephen: it satisfies your curiosity. charlie: is there anything you want to do, any role -- no, nothing. judy: just something different, or something. just be employed, that's what i want. be employed learning something new, preferably. urdu, writing her do -- writing urdu. charlie: any desire to travel a lot, or you party done that? judy: you're asking me at the wrong time, because we have been in venice and we've in in london and in toronto and here. so, we are all in for a lie down for 24 hours. charlie: you think about royalty as -- i think you once said idiotic. stephen: i think for one reason
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-- for some reason the queen has been rather impressive. when we made the queen she reminded us all of our mothers. working as a motor mechanic, probably the happiest moment of her life. i admired the woman. i am a cleanest -- i am a queenist. prince of wales became a good king, he stopped the first world war. charlie: then he gave up the crown. stephen: no, the one in the film. charlie: here he is. victoria's son, scolding her for not treating abdul like a servant. >> she was scandalous sitting next to a servant, and a hindu to boot. >> he is muslim and knows the koran by heart.
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he is a servant no longer. he has been given a staff of his own. >> you are treating him like a member of the family. >> no, i like abdul. he is coming on holiday with us as a member of the household. >> you cannot take a muslim to florence. >> i can take a muslim to wherever i like. good night. [applause] charlie: he just said that should be written on the statue of liberty. i can take a muslim wherever i want -- wherever i like. you must think that you would of
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loved the queen, queen victoria, you would have liked her? she has these --she knows who she is? she is a bit firm? judy: quite firm. charlie: sense of humor or not? judy: she must have had a sense of humor. she missed out a bit i think on her relationship with all of her children. i feel sorry for when bertie says i have only just arrived and she says we are going away and he's coming with us. poor bertie, he didn't get much change. charlie: why is that? judy: choose like that with all of the children. stephen: that's how people were brought up. you saw your children 50 minutes in the morning and 50 minutes in the evening. until you americans arrived and the revelation -- [laughter] charlie: are you doing other things coming up? judy: i have done "murder on the
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orient express." she has two dogs, it was very nice indeed to do and a lot of very glamorous actors. charlie: let's assume there's a place to go after you die and let's assume there was somebody there and says what have you done to deserve coming here, follow me? what would you say? would you say have you seen my performance in -- stephen: terrible question. charlie: i mean, -- judy: how could you answer that? charlie: would you say this is what i -- judy: i behaved badly in a great many plays your summary said something like that and he said
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you know in a playground there are groups of children, there is always one group behaving really badly and he said she's -- charlie: behaving badly at the other end? stephen: appalling. thank goodness. charlie: what is an example of that? stephen: my mind has gone blank. charlie: she is the straw that stirs the pot? stephen: yes. there is suddenly a lot of laughter and you think all, she is off again. at my expense. judy: always at his expense. charlie: was there anything you
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have not done that you wanted to do? judy: i look back fondly. charlie: at the life you have lived? judy: at the time i have had and the good fortune, the really good luck. it is nothing to do with good actors are employed, and bad actors are not employed, it is not like that. it is actors who are employed just happened to be lucky, because they just happen to be in somebody's eye at the time, it is absolutely true. not being modest. it is true. if you happen to get some kind of break and you can go on and learn from it and maybe get another job, that is how it is. there is no guarantee, not at all. and i just -- i just think it's good luck and you meet great people along the way. to have a laugh with. stephen: i first saw you in
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1957. judy: my first job. charlie: what were you doing? judy: playing ophelia. charlie: what did you think when you saw her? stephen: i didn't think. judy: i got terrible -- charlie: what did you think when you get the terrible notices? judy: summary said, don't read those. charlie: did you always have confidence it would somehow turn out ok? judy: no. no. i don't have any confidence, if i give the appearance of it, that is acting.
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charlie: you have had this long career, you have gone from one kind of performance to another from james bond to queen victoria two films you did in india, you have worked with the best directors. judy: i have? i have. stephen: she was always very good at doing new things, the truth is you started working films after -- when did you get cast in bond? she suddenly went into something new. olivier did the entertainer of the royal court, something completely new. . doing this and start doing this. charlie: i'll stop doing shakespeare -- stephen: yes. charlie: he actually said he wanted to sing and dance on stage?
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stephen: he did. he did want to. charlie: did you know olivier? judy: i knew him, but the only time i worked with them is when we joined the e.u. there was a huge concert and you had wonderful singers, everybody, all of europe represented in the arts. it was glorious. we were the links between the mall -- between them all. charlie: never a chance to be within -- with him on stage? judy: no. charlie: is a friendship between you and maggie, is that a deep, long friendship? judy: it is. we met in 1958, so we have had a
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long time together. charlie: do you keep up with each other? judy: oh, yes, i had a text from her the other day. charlie: you invented -- judy: i sent her slippers -- thank you for the chippy slippers. charlie: very good. it is always great to have you. judy: good to be here. charlie: like seeing an old pal every time you come. judy: it is good, isn't it? ?
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check ofstart with a your first word news. mexico city officials say 52 people have been rescued from the rubble of collapsed buildings after tuesday's 7.1 magnitude earthquake. the quake killed at least 225 people in several states. search and rescue efforts are still ongoing. mexico's president has declared three days of national mourning. total -- rita caused a hurricane maria caused a total blackout in puerto rico. it is the second hurricane to hit puerto rico in two weeks. no word yet on deaths or serious injuries.


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