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the secret to all our success, without each other, i don't know where we'd be. >> where would you go? >> piers: bruno, it has been a real pleasure. ari, thank you very much. phil, best of luck. and good luck with the grammys, guys, i got a feeling a big night four. the brit, adele, will win more, but i hope you come in second. >> get it. >> piers: a real pleasure. thanks a lot. that is bruno mars. that is all for us tonight. "ac 360" starts now. piers, thanks, good evening, everyone it is 10:00 here on the east coast. new developments from the campaign trail, including late polling out of new hampshire that shows mitt romney's lead growing, new numbers out of south carolina, the next primary state after new hampshire, startling results, the latest cnn time/orc poll shows a mitt romney resurgence there newt gingrich, who held such a big week a few weeks ago, rick santorum appears to be rising. plenty to talk about there, we with he begin tonight keeping them honest with the candidates and president obama on jobs. that is what the experts say is driving this election, jobs and
jobless numbers, all these candidates on the stump today in new hampshire and south carolina say they can do better on the the job front than president obama. some are making claims about their own job-creating records that don't stand up to scrutiny. their case against the administration today got harder to make because new job numbers came out, unemployment fell again last month, down .2 to 8.5%. the economy gaping 200,000 jobs, 50,000 more than expected. these are decent, not spectacular by any means and president obama was cautious. >> there are a lot of people still hurting out there after losing more thain 8 million jobs in the recession, obviously, we have a lot more work to do. >> state and local government workers hardest hit, nearly a quarter million public sector jobs eliminated last year, including more than 100,000 teachers. jon huntsman called today's job report good news but said we can
be doing better. ron paul said the same but warped the financial crisis is not over. rick santorum, the other gop candidates, were less generous. >> is great that the economy is moving forward. but it has got a boot on the throat of the economy and it is called obama's taxation regulatory policy and his continual beating up of people who try to create jobs in this country. >> with he created 200,000 new jobs last month. working with ronald reagan in the early '80s, we'd very simple formula, sound money, lower taxes, less red tape, more american energy and actually praise people who create jobs. that formula, led by august of 1983, to 1,300,000 jobs being created in one month. six times the number they are going to create this month. >> he went the "today" show right after he was inaugurated and he said if i can't turn this economy around in three years, i will be looking at a one-term
proposition and we are here to collect. we are here to collect. we are taking it back. >> governor romney boasting of his record of turning around troubled companies when he headed bain capital. he is staking his campaign on the contrast, as he sees it between his performance as a business executive and president obama's record as chief executive. >> now, i don't happen to think that barack obama is a bad guy, i just don't think he has a clue. i -- and having never worked in the private sector, never having had a real job, it is not a surprise he doesn't know how to create a real job. >> i happen to think that if you want to create jobs, it helps to have had a job. and i have. >> i went off on my own and started my own business. i have learned from that. >> see i spent my life in the private sector, solving real problems. >> i will first make america the most attractive place in the world for job growth. for investment. for small business. for big business. >> i spent most of my life
outside politics, dealing with real problems in the real economy. >> being in the private sector for 25 years, therefore knowing how the economy works, why jobs come, why they go not just watch jobs being created but actually creating jobs. >> creating jobs. >> create jobs. >> control jobs. kroonchts he yate jobs. >> time for someone who knows how to create jobs. >> two days ago, governor romney had this to say about the jobs he created in the private sector. >> very happy that in my former life, with he helped creator of 100,000 new jobs. by the way, we created more jobs in massachusetts than this president has created in the entire country. we will be comparing my record with his record and he comes up very, very shore. >> he made 100,000 job claim before. until now though we have been in the dark about specifics. there are 89,000 jobs at staples, 15,000 at sports authority and 7900 at domino's pizza, all of which bain helped to establish or grow. that is what a romney
spokesperson told the "washington post." a "post" fact checker pointed out those are current numbers, not numbers when romney was at bain, 12 years ago no reliable figures on that but politico managed to up cover some of the job losses that occurred on romney's watch, about 2200 at three companies that bain acquired. 1900,000 is a figure that includes all the growth at staple, dom niece and sports authority long after romney had anything to do with them, whereas the job losses are directly connected to his tenure. as for claims his job creation record as governor of massachusetts is better than president obama's record, technically correct but not a slamdunk. he created 4300 jobs his first year as governor. the obama job loss numbers the romney campaign put out initially included the first three weeks in january, before president obama even took the oath of office. that is significant, because as you remember, the economy was hemorrhaging jobs in january, 820,000 jobs. then the romney campaign revised
those numbers taking out the three weeks but kept february, march and april before any of president obama's economic policies take affect, the tax cuts, the sim plus n those three months, another 2.2 million jobs went away. in fairness to the romney campaign and keeping the white house honest, responsibility for the economy belonged to president obama, the recession officially ended that june, the economy began growing, the job losses slowed then stopped. the chart you are looking sat from the bureau of labor statistics and the trend line clear, job losses peaking in january of '09 when the economy was shrinking by 9% and shows an almost continuous upward slope the point we are at now a positive trend and 2.3 million jobs added since obama took office but still, not enough to overcome the jobs lost in 2009. and the unemployment number, even though it is the lowest in three years, is also higher than millions of people can take, may also be the higher than voters can tolerate you depends on factors. our political panel weighs in
tonight, democratic strategist, james carville, republican strategist, alex castellanos and eric erics, from redstate.com. the jobs that romney created or didn't create it is still going to be all about the economy, right? >> sure it will. i think today, positive news for the president. they will have it out, bank capital certainly a legitimate addition to the campaign. sure they will rave the economy under president obama, right now for the moment, wind at our backs, which has not been the case for a lot of this administration, got to be feeling better today. >> erick you the obama administration wants to turn what many see as mitt romney's greatest at -- attribute want to turn it into a negative, story after story, huge profits at bain capital and people fired do they have a story to tell on that front? >> i think to a degree they do,
probably mitt romney's biggest you will haver in ran bullet in this poll after poll after poll shows while americans don't particularly care for barack obama's policies? fixing the economy, they don't blame him for the unemployment, blame george w. bush many whose advisories work for mitt romney, you can put people on screen, from swing states, no less, who lost their jobs because of mitt romney directly ordering layoffs at bain capital. did he a good job jug ta posing his work with bain what the president did with general bhoirts when you have person after over five months starting with this moveon.org attack today of republicans coming on camera saying they don't like mitt romney because he laid them off and shutdown their town, it becomes who cost americans more jobs or less jobs and you can personalize it. americans like brachlt. >> analysts seem pleased with the jobs numbers today. keep one this pace and people get a sense things are getting better even if the numbers are above 8% do republicans need a
plan b to beat obama? >> i don't think they need a plan b because i think you raced -- raised the issue. these numbers keep up. they probably won't. this is breaking news. something interesting happened in december. it was christmas. there's a lot of christmas hiring going on. a lot of democrats i talked to are worried saying by this spring and summer a lot of that christmas is going to wear off. those job numbers will be down again. you have the european debt crisis looming and you have the debt figures. we're now near 16 trillion going up, which that depresses psychologically depresses spending in the country. for all those reasons, unless obama can make christmas every month, it's going to be a problem for him. by the way, republicans can put faces on tv saying barack obama when he told me people don't come to las vegas, don't come out here to work, they fired me. so there have been a lot of stories out there that you'll get from both sides.
>> jim, can president obama still blame president bush for the economy? >> right. understand, if you look at the trajectory of hiring, it's pretty dramatic what he inherited. since june of his first year in office, the line has not gone up fast enough. it's gone up. in terms of debt, we're expecting 155,000. analysts knew what month it was. it came in stronger than that. is he going to get 200,000 every month? that's highly doubtful. as long as he has some momentum to point to, that helps him a great deal. it's going to be a close election, but what he needs is some economic movement in the right direction and it looks like as of now he's got that. >> so even if the numbers are still above 8%, as long as he can show some sort of positive movement? >> i would say no, anderson. i would say, no, that that's not enough, that he's got to say, and i've got a plan to make it better.
here's how i'm going to do that's different. here's how i'm going to work with republicans with whom i haven't been able to work with. republicans, they've also got to do a little lifting here too. they can't take this for granted. hey look, president obama has a plan to grow the economy. grow the economy top down from there. political artificial spending. republicans have to counter that. they've got to say, hey, look, we'll take money out of washington's pocket, cut taxes, spending there. grow this economy bottom up. organically, naturally. there's a new and better way than obama's old thinking. and so far, i'm not hearing that message from a lot of republicans. >> eric, these latest polls in south carolina, there's been a big question mark about romney, his ability to compete in the south. there was a sense he could be vulnerable, especially in south carolina. he's got nearly twice the support of his closest competitor, an 18-point lead. is it possible the conservative core of the republican party is warming to romney? >> i don't know that they're
necessarily warming. i think they're getting post traumatic stress disorder from the last campaign season of the last year. they're ready for this to be over. they're seeing the way this is headed. mitt romney could well be the nominee coming out of new hampshire strongly and going into south carolina. he has nikki haley's support. they'll make custer's last stand in south carolina. see if it turns out better for them than custer. if so, he has the momentum. it's not that they like him or are warming from them. it's that they're tired of campaign season already. >> james, do you agree with that analysis? do you see the numbers in the same way? >> i've been in south carolina. they're pragmatic. i mean, it's a very conservative state. i think president bush xxxxi carried south carolina in 1988. it sort of reminds me what my daddy used to say when he cooked something for us. you're gonna like it because you've gotta like it. that's a little bit of mitt romney. you've gotta like him because you have no other choice. i felt that for some time.
>> it was going to be though a strong state for rick perry. it was supposed to be at least. i would venture to guess, erick, are you surprised to see him in the back of the pack at this point? >> no, not after what happened in iowa. his campaign has to reboot. if he cannot make a public showing that he got the message of iowa, he's firing everybody. he's only got ten business days to do it, by the way. no, his last stand has come and gone. i don't know that he can do it. if he can surprise people in south carolina and have a stronger showing than what he's got, then maybe he can turn it around and move it into florida. otherwise, if it's close and mitt romney wins, people will legitimately say rick perry's to blame. >> james, do you still stand by your iowa caucus night statement that he is the worst candidate ever in american history? >> i do. i do. if you look at the promise he came with, the money he raised, everything else, i can't think of anybody who has been a bigger disappointment.
>> james, you're forgetting aaron burr. come on. aaron burr was far worst of a presidential candidate. >> can't have been the worst candidate in american history. if he had been, i would have worked for him. >> probably been a democrat. >> james. >> remember, talking about him getting in and out. remember ross perot. he got in the race and got out of the race. he said the reason he got out was the president tried to mess up his daughter's wedding. someone said how can you mess up a texas wedding? someone show up in a sedan? >> james carville, thank you. let us know what you think. facebook, google plus, follow me on anderson cooper. still ahead, evangelical voters in south carolina and those stunning new poll numbers. if they're right, big if, the candidate you'd expect evangelicals to back may not get their vote after all in south carolina.
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politics now. some truly striking numbers out of south carolina. it's traditionally friendly to evangelicals. the numbers are from a new cnn/time/orc poll. they show mitt romney in the lead among likely voters describing themselves as born again as well as those who say they're not. governor romney leading social conservative rick santorum in south carolina. other polls show exactly the opposite. won't be long before we find out which is right. if this one is correct, it points to a romney cakewalk. if that's the case, the whole thing could be over by the end of south carolina for the republicans. joining me tonight, chief political analyst, gloria borgia and ralph reed. ralph, the latest poll shows romney the clear leader. 13 percentage points ahead of the closest competitor, rick
santorum. it's fascinating to me. conventional wisdom is that romney is going to have a hard time with evangelicals because of his mormon faith or other reasons. these numbers seem to suggest otherwise. >> they do, anderson. i think we need to await further polling because it's going to look a lot different after new hampshire. anderson, this is a state where four years ago, mitt romney only got 11% of evangelical vote. it's going to be between 55 and 60% of the vote. if he overperforms, as this survey indicates, it will be very difficult to stop him, indeed. >> it could be over with south carolina as far as these -- i mean, if rick santorum or newt gingrich or perry can't do well among evangelicals in south carolina, there's very little future for them. >> well, i think two things are going on. number one, the field is very crowded. here you're going to have, for lack of a better term, the more conservative vote divided, if things hold, between perry, gingrich, santorum and ron paul. that's the best news possible
for mitt romney. but i would add a word of caution, and that is that this is not anything like the results we saw in iowa. in iowa, santorum got 32% of the evangelical vote. romney got 13. i'd be very surprised if this holds, but i think what it does underscore is that unlike the sort of lazy caricature that is applied to conservative voters of faith, in iowa, 61% of evangelicals voted for either a mormon or roman catholic. you don't have to get up and quote scripture and say you're born again and you'll get their votes. >> gloria, were you surprised by the numbers? >> no. you know, it's interesting. i think when you look at the evangelical vote, we now have to understand that they're not a monolith, it isn't a simple
picture, as ralph says, and that they vote on a variety of issues. this could also not be great for the republican party as a whole that evangelicals, for example, disagree with some republicans on the issues of capital punishment or even the environment so as you head into a general election, they may not be as dependable as they once were considered. >> do you buy that, ralph? >> i'd be surprised, anderson, and i'll tell you why. if you look at the exit polls from the 2008 general election, john mccain actually got a higher percentage of the evangelical vote against barack obama four years ago than george w. bush got in 2000, even though bush was an explicit evangelical. he got 73%, and that was before obama care, it was before the failed stimulus, it was before some of the moves that he's made on things like saying the defense of marriage act is unconstitutional. i do think though that let's assume for a minute that the
field stays where it is. if romney ends up being the nominee, he's still going to have to wed himself to that faith-based grassroots element through a vice presidential pick, through a convention speech and through general election themes. but whoever the republican nominee is going to get a gift on the day they're nominated with regard to this vote, and that is they're going to be running against barack obama. that will provide some built in intensity. >> obama supporters would disagree on the failed stimulus notion. gloria, john mccain won the south carolina primary in 2008, bob dole did it in 1996, for all of the talk, they do have a pragmatic streak. >> right, they do. don't forget last time around, huckabee did very well among evangelicals. what's happening now though, to mitt romney's benefit, is that while, yes, some evangelicals like him, and that's quite a hurdle to jump when you're a
mormon, by the way, but the evangelical vote is being split. i'm here in new hampshire and i spent the day with rick santorum at an event and what he does very cleverly, this appeals to evangelicals as well as to people who vote on economic issues, he weaves his kind of values agenda with his economic agenda. that is that a strong family equals a strong country. so that's kind of a message that appeals to a very, very broad spectrum. >> there was a report, ralph, that a group of evangelical leaders were meeting in texas, or this weekend, to try to look at who they could rally around as the anti-romney. >> right. there have been a number of those meetings. there were a number of those meetings to, quote, stop mccain in 2008. the challenge anderson, gloria's already referenced. number one, the united states is not cuba. it's a free country.
so you can't just go up to a candidate and say, sit down and shut up. these are people who have invested years of their lives and raised millions and in some cases tens of millions of dollars. at this point, they only have another ten or twelve days to wait anyway. the second issue is even if somebody does get out, you would still have something similar in south carolina to what happened in '08, where mike huckabee would have won the south carolina primary but for the votes that thompson got in the upstate, especially in greenville and spartanburg counties. one final thing that i don't think can be underestimated in south carolina once we get there, mitt romney having nikki haley, who's both a devout christian and a tea party favorite, that's an asset. >> finally, you are skeptical of this new poll that shows romney 13 points ahead in south carolina? >> well, i don't want to say i'm skeptical.
i want to say i want to inject a word of caution because we don't have a single poll in south carolina or iowa or any other early primary states showing that kind of result. >> i should clarify it's 13 percentage points ahead among percentage points ahead among evangelicals in south carolina, which is so startling. >> anderson, rick santorum is going to go up on the air starting next tuesday in south carolina with a very large ad buy, which he has not done before. he's had some cable ads. and so his campaign is telling me that they believe that's really going to up their visibility. they believe that their values message will resonate a lot more in south carolina than for example it does in new hampshire. >> don't be knocking cable tv, gloria. thanks very much. >> we're just less expensive. >> thanks. ralph reid, thank you. >> thank you, anderson. one programming note to tell you about. stay with cnn for a special live
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up close tonight, rick santorum's political ups and downs. his republican opponents have been lambasting his history on earmarks and the huge helpings of pork when he served in the senate. that was before they were required to report their earmarks. in 2005 alone, for instance, pennsylvania received $483,000 of earmarks. it was perfectly legal of course. santorum wasn't the only one doing it, bringing home the pork for their state. here's what got us wondering. why did pennsylvania voters toss santorum out of office in 2006 after he delivered all that bacon to the state? it wasn't a speaker -- a squeaker of a race either. it was a real drubbing. here's jason carroll. >> reporter: those in the state who personally know him -- >> rick is what rick is. he tells it like it is. >> reporter: -- or whether it's those here who simply know of him. >> i think he's trying to establish a christian unity.
>> reporter: -- you're not likely to find a shortage of strong opinions in penn hills, pennsylvania, about rick santorum. his number two showing in the iowa not so surprising to those who remember another race where he unexpectedly did well. november 1990 as a 32-year-old newcomer, santorum upset the seven-term democrat. his campaign effectively raising questions about the incumbent's residency. >> we worked hard and that's how we won. >> reporter: phil english was one of santorum's campaign managers. >> what struck people about him was that he was a republican who spoke to the aspiration of working families. >> reporter: rick santorum's interest in politics was evident even while he was a student here at penn state. he majored in political science. he organized a group of college republicans and he was so successful at doing that, he was named coordinator of president reagan's youth effort here in the state.
when santorum was a sophomore he went to work for state senator doyle corman, who says even then santorum was not one to hold his tongue. >> he believes what he believes. he doesn't hide it. >> reporter: santorum opposes same-sex marriage. he favors a constitutional ban on abortion. phil english says he has watched santorum's career develop into becoming more associated with culturally conservative beliefs rather than the economic reform issues which he says initially carried him into office. >> increasingly, what he's been identified with are divisive issues like abortion and gay rights. over time, i think that has become a bigger challenge. >> reporter: those divisive issues were one factor that contributed to his being voted out of office in pennsylvania. he has plenty of detractors here in the state. in 2006, he lost his re-election
bid by 18 points, the largest defeat by any incumbent pennsylvania senator. ironically, questions about santorum's residency, whether he lived in penn hills, pennsylvania, or virginia, ended up being another factor that led to his defeat. critics said he enrolled five of his children in an online school in virginia. erin vecchio is a democrat and former school board member. >> he was charging us, working class, middle class people to cyberschool his kids when he's living in a million house in virginia. >> reporter: if rick santorum were to win the republican nomination, there's no telling if he could even carry his home state. he left scars in pennsylvania. something even his friends admit. >> he has passions in both directions. i think when people get to know him and that's where i think he was so successful in iowa. if you just see what you hear on the news or people's opinions of him or a 30-second ad, it's easy not to like him.
>> reporter: jason carroll, cnn, state college, pennsylvania. >> interesting. susan hendricks is here with the "360" bulletin. the arab league will send more people to damascus. an apparent suicide bombing killed more than two dozen people, the second strike in more than two weeks. more than 60 deaths were reported across the country. a texas teenager is returning to the u.s. from colombia after being mistakenly deported back in may. the 15-year-old told them she was from colombia, gave them a fake name and age when she was arrested for theft last year. she has not been seen by her family since 2010. they plan to sue the agencies involved. in australia, four people and two children were rescued after their boat sank. a fire on their boat forced them to jump into the ocean where they clung to an icebox until
they were found. pretty amazing. how about this guy? meet the little corgi who could. his owner was killed in an avalanche. the man's family thought the dog died too. four days later, they got a call from the hotel where they had been staying on their ski trip. >> i was like, what? what happened? she's like, olie survived. >> amazing, he somehow dug himself out from under that deep snow and found his way to the hotel, a four-mile trek, by the way. he's doing fine. >> isn't that crazy? >> that is amazing. good for him. time for tonight's shot from our own larry king. king himself moderated a parody republican debate. take a look at yahoo! news cyber presidential debate. >> we have reached a very important part of the debate. the reagan speed round. you know how this works. we give the candidates seven seconds and whoever can mention ronald regan's name the most wins the round. go! >> reagan. reagan, reagan, reagan, reagan,
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crime and punishment tonight. his face is recognized around the world for all the wrong reasons. joran van der sloot is on trial in peru for the murder of a 21-year-old woman. he was arrested, of course, twice for the disappearance of american natalee holloway. he was considered a chief suspect but holloway's body was never found. joran van der sloot was never charged. the case against him in peru is much stronger. today, day one of his trial, he was expected to enter a guilty plea. he had once confessed. he ended up surprising everyone. here is tom foreman. >> reporter: the curious case of joran van der sloot has taken another strange turn. in a peruvian court, expected to plead guilty to murder, instead
he yawns, scratches, and tells the judge he's not ready to enter a plea. even with dutch and english translators on hand, the 24-year-old dutch citizen spoke to speak spanish saying i want to give a sincere confession but i don't agree with all the charges. can i have more time? his odd saga has been going on for quite some time already. van der sloot's trial is over the 2010 murder of this 21-year-old peruvian, stephany flores. prosecutors produced video showing them together, and she never came out of his hotel room. her body was found there. he beat her violently in the face, they say. he beat her in the head. he took her pants off. he strangled her with his own hands and finally choked her to death with a piece of clothing stained with his own blood. but the reason the flores killing caused an international sensation was that it came
precisely five years after the american, natalee holloway, vanished in aruba. van der sloot, one of the last people seen with her, was just 17 at the time and was heavily investigated. officials never had enough evidence to charge him in her disappearance. the u.s. government has sought to extradite him to stand trial here for extorsion. he is accused of taking money from the holloway family on a promise to lead them to their daughter's body. she has still never been found. authorities believe he used the money to travel to peru where he met stephany flores. peruvian police say he long ago confessed to the flores killing. his attorney argued he did not have a translator and if he killed her, it was in a fit of rage after she brought up the holloway case.
what van der sloot he will say remains anyone's guess. the court agreed to his request giving him more time to think of his own long, strange story. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> strange, it was five years on the anniversary. digging deeper. a lot of legal experts are following the trial. that includes jean casarez from our sister network true tv. i talked to her for a short time before the program. so, jean, van der sloot was expected to plead guilty today to the murder of stephany flores. he asked for time. is it possible he's going to end up pleading not guilty and go forward with the trial? >> i think it is possible, i really do. originally his attorney had said that he would plead guilty to simple homicide which anderson is like a manslaughter, right? that it was great emotion. it came over him and he committed this murder. they did not agree with the aggravators, that there was no cruelty, no brutality. suddenly joran van der sloot stands up in court today and the judge asks him if he will plead guilty to the charges of qualified murder, which is like a second-degree murder, i would say.
we had heard his attorney said he was going to do that with this acceptance of responsibility, so he says that he's considering it but he doesn't agree with the aggravators. that's for the simple murder. he got his communication, his lines crossed. there have to be aggravators if you're going to plead guilty to qualified, a second-degree murder. >> i'm confused. qualified murder is what? >> i think it's akin to second-degree murder. intent to kill but not a premeditation. it's not a felony murder. the maximum you can serve is 35 years in prison. it's not life in prison. >> that's what he said he needs more time to decide whether or not he's going to plead guilty to that? >> yes. his attorney said he was going to plead guilty to it but now he might be changing his mind. >> he was caught on camera at one time yawning. the victim's father said he looks indifferent, prideful court. what is going on in that courtroom? >> i couldn't believe it. as i watched his demeanor, he was bored, restless, didn't want to be there. this is his murder trial.
this is the first day of his murder trial where he could face 30 years in prison and he just didn't seem to care. he even looked at his watch, and there wasn't a watch, anderson, on his arm but he looked at it as if there was one. >> he's obviously been the prime suspect in natalee holloway's disappearance. arrested twice. wasn't enough evidence to charge him with the crime. what i find so stunning is the murder of this girl was on the fifth anniversary of the holloway disappearance. >> the defense is using that. the defense's saying there's postpartum depression here of a sense in relation to that he had been through so much with natalee holloway's situation. it was the five-year anniversary. he did nothing but he's been targeted from day one. post traumatic stress disorder. it was too much for him. he ended up taking out those aggressions on stephany flores. >> there was an undercover dutch journalist who recorded secretly van der sloot talking about holloway's death.
he said -- van der sloot said he was on drugs and he didn't know what he said. >> right. how many versions has he given to natalee holloway? there are federal extorsion charges against him in the united states because he accepted $25,000 from natalee holloway's mother saying he would tell her where natalee was buried and he would get $250,000 total. he took the attorney to a location and lied about where the body was because the building he said she was under wasn't even built when natalee disappeared. there are federal charges. once he finishes his years in peru, most likely he will be extradited to the united states. >> you have to do that in the united states? >> yes. here's the concern. he could potentially serve his time in the netherlands instead of peru. is the netherlands going to want to extra diet him to the united
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>> erin burnett up at 8:00. everybody says the economy is the number one issue in the election and that number this morning was really good, but there is a big caveat. an amazing number looking into it that puts together ronald reagan and barack obama that is the big question. plus a young woman in florida has two young toddlers missing since november 17th. michelle parker. we are going to talk to her mother tonight. we have been following the story and her mother has a plea that we want to share with our viewers tonight. all that at the top of the hour. plus, anderson, have you heard of the game age of woolen? >> age of what? >> woolen. >> i have not. >> i had not heard of it either. but somebody that plays that game has paid $16,000 real dollars for a virtual sword. we will tell you about that. >> all right, erin, thanks. coming up, how do you make a child beauty pageant even more
outrageous? just add sugar. the ridiculist is next. i'm really glad we took this last minute trip! you booked our room right? not yet, thanks for reminding me. wait, what? i have the hotels.com app so we can get a great deal even at the last minute. ah, well played sir. get the app. hotels.com. when i'm out with my kids, my daughter's like, "mom, wait up!"
and tiaras." it shows the beauty contestants and the moms. it includes putting fake breasts on 4-year-olds. there was the forcing 5-year-olds to get their eyebrows waxed. dressing up 2-year-olds in comb bras like madonna or in other outfits like julia roberts. basically the show is as jaw-dropping as nova without all of that pesky learning about science. we thought we had seen it all but now, i hope you're sitting down, there's a doping scandal. by dope i mean sugar. by scandal, i mean some moms are unapologetically giving their little girls massive quantities of pixie sticks to get them amped up for pagent competition. for those unaware, they're paper straws filled with powder candy. take a look. >> i like them because they're super.
>> i had ten pixie sticks today. i still got four more. >> bailey, she's so silly today. for some reason, she can't get herself together. >> i like how she's boozing, drinking the pixie sticks. drinking the pixie sticks. apparently, this is the worst-kept secret in the pageant world. >> they're called pageant crack. >> you heard right, they call it pageant crack. moms, calling it pageant crack. that doesn't seem to work for everyone, like this woman's 6-year-old daughter. >> we went 15 bags on one pageant. it don't do anything for her. >> so having failed with the 15 bags of pixie sticks, mom had no choice but to go for the hard stuff. it's a special juice. whatever, it looks like mountain dew. >> a lot of pageant moms and people know what the special juice is.
it's to help energize her. >> drink, drink, drink. two big gulps. >> she drinks it for pagents to give her the extra oomph. >> let's look at what go go juice gives to a 6-year-old. >> it makes me laughy and play. >> i am ready to go. >> my brother isn't going to help me. >> my go go juice keeps me going. >> her go go juice. not going to lie. i kind of want some pixie sticks and go go juice right now. she has earned that one, hasn't she? charming. need i remind you, when it comes to kids on a sugar high, there is a down side. require the dinner scene from "talladega nights"? >> i'm going to come at you like a spider monkey. >> you brought this on man. >> what is wrong with you? >> i'm jacked up on mountain dew.