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it's such a great story. we're going to talk about what's happening with him straight ahead. "starting point" begins right now. ♪ joey bell in the control room playing marvin gaye with me. you know that is the way to get promoted in this company. just kidding. i'm going to introduce you to our panel who is joining us this morning. don peeples is back. he said, we're i'll come back any time. he's the chairman and ceo of peoples corporation. and will kaine and nancy whose phone was going off. >> i'm very sorry. >> lots to get to. first, we're going to start on what's happening on capitol hill this morning. congress has reached a tentative deal to extend the payroll tax cut for the rest of the year. the average savings is roughly $1,000 a year. no plan though on exactly how to pay for it. and some republicans are saying today that it's just stealing from the future. listen. >> why are we arguing over a
middle class tax cut that has been given to us for -- by name, to reduce the amount that we're paying into social security. what we should be talking about the real tax reform, what it's going to take to increase our revenues by broadening our economic base, by growing our economy. we aren't doing that. we need to be talking about what the american people want to hear. that's where the jobs are going to come from. >> that would be congressman dennis ross speaking there. christine romans is in atlanta this morning breaking down the details on this. >> i think, soledad, in an election year this is a no brainer for republicans and democrats. you've got 160 million people who are getting a tax benefit e6 ry paycheck they get. it's $1,000 over the course of a year. $40 per paycheck, that's if you make $50,000 a year or so. so this was something in an election year you just, you know, the feeling in washington you just can't be raising taxes on people, on working people in an election year. there's a couple of other components to this. it's the jobless benefits
extension. and that so-called dock fix. they're going to try to find a way to pay for that, we're told. those two things, doctors getting reimbursed for their medicare patients and how they're being reimbursed and the extension of jobless benefits, those have to be paid for. the fighting that's still happening right now is how you're going to pay for that. some people in the gop quite frankly want drug testing maybe or other kinds of testing for eligibility for jobless benefits going forward here. and i think we know for sure that those days of 99 weeks of jobless benefits, those days are over. you're not going to be able to find agreement on that at this point, soledad. >> political hot potato in an election year, $40 per paycheck, which is basically what it works out to be, you say you advocate for taking that away. you might be on the losing side of that battle. appreciate it. new details to get to this morning into the the investigation into whitney houston's death. the l.a. times is reporting that doctors who prescribed her drugs
could be slapped with subpoenas over the next few days. not a surprise there really because investigators want to question doctors in the pharmacies as well as medications found in the singer's hotel room. meanwhile, a private funeral will take place on saturday at houston's childhood church, new hope baptist church. erin burnett spoke to the pas r churches pastor last night. >> she's hurting. she's grieving, of course. but cissy houston is a woman of strong faith. she's actual ly testifying abou how god had been so good to her, to this point, and how she said he's not going to leave her now. i was there to lift her spirits, and she ended uplifting mine. it's just an amazing testimony of the grace of god. >> we know that the eulogy will be given by gospel singer and pastor marvin winans.
he's proviesided over whitney houston's wedding to bobby brown. cyst christi is ordering flags to be flown at half staff on saturday. danielle smith is an editor at billboard magazine. you interviewed whitney houston in 19 -- >> ' 95, i did. >> are you surprised this funeral is private. we heard thursday and then friday and then 12,000 people would be at the prudential center and all of a sudden it was like, no, what happened? >> i'm not surprised. it's just -- it's such a tragedy. i'm sure her family wants some intimacy so they can grieve comfortably. >> at the same time, you know, a lot of people gave a lot of flack to clive davis for going on with his grammy party. nancy giles is like -- >> my god, she was -- her body was still in the hotel. i -- i just think that's tasteless. i'm sure everybody was in shock. i don't know how i would have reacted. but have it somewhere else if you have to have it.
you know what i mean? >> there are people who today say, you know, how could you possibly go on with a party when a massive tragedy has just happened and the death was a whitney houston who was the mentee of the person throwing the party. >> awkward situation. my mother always says people don't know how to act when people die. but i wasn't near the hotel but it was awkward to be in los angeles period. i was at a different party that same night and i felt like the deejay was playing all this music and no one knew whether to dance or not or no one knew how to act. >> we heard from the pastor joe carter about what's going to happen. i want to play a little chunk because it's sort of the same thing. it's like you have entertainers perform or do you have a memorial service and people mourn or is it a combination of the two. here's what he said. >> we're hearing a lot of entertainers are going to be here. and we're excited. the family really has put
together a program that's going to be musical, be happy, be joyful, and really give the kind of feel to the congregation and those there that, i think, whitney would want to be remembered by. >> that's a tough spot to be? >> you know, i first met whitney in 1994, after president clinton's first year in office. he had a presidential dinner and whitney performed. she had just given birth to her daughter and there were allegations of rumors then of drug use and her taking medication to lose weight. and she gave a great performance. but even back then she was a bit troubled. then i remember the last time i saw her was at the b.e.t. honors two years ago when she got a wonderful award and, again, she was on her way to a comeback. i would think just from the personality that i saw that i think she would want people to remember her in an upbeat, positive way. >> people have been talking
about the drug use. as you say, right, everyone says, oh, my god, what an amazing voice and what a struggle she had. a lot of people connected that struggle to her husband, to bobby brown. then people say it really predated their marriage. >> i think people who abuse drugs generally have, you know, many instances it's within. i think we all have to be accountable for our own problems and i think that sometimes we connect up with people who have similar personalities or similar issues with us. but i think she certainly, you know, battled through some difficult times and was immensely successful and talented and giving throughout her life. >> and coming back and coming back and coming back. >> i think she was on her way back, that's the sad part about it. i think with this movie "sparkle" released in august. the idea of her singing gospel music which is going directly back to her roots, it seems like it was going to be a rebirth. >> some people say it was finally a real opportunity to turn the kosher as a maturing artist and do something else. we're going to take a short
break and back and keep talking about whitney houston today and some of the plans that will happen with her funeral and her memorial as well. first though, let's get to other head inloose. christine has that for us. good morning. >> good morning, soledad. iran flaunting its nuclear advancements this morning. president mahmoud ahmadinejad claiming iran has made advances in the nuclear program building homemade nuclear rods. they are on high alert. israeli securities say hiring embassy officials are at the highest level in five years. so far no specific intelligence of any threat to israeli interests in the u.s. meanwhile, israel this morning is vowing to settle the score with iran after a bombing attempt in bangkok. israeli defense minister barak says the tuesday's blast that wounded four civilians was an attempted terrorist attack by the . china's vice president xi
jinping will meet with congressional leaders on capitol hill today and then give a speech at the chamber of commerce. it's part of his five-day tour in u.s. in it meetings. yesterday president obama told xi that xin that has a responsibility to ensure trade and balance approximately after that, xi goes to iowa. a fake version of a popular cancer drug circulating in the u.s. the company that makes avastin is warning hospitals, doctors and patients about this counterfeit product. it's not clear how much of the fake stuff is out there or whether anyone has been harmed. the food and drug administration is investigating. minding your business this morning. stock futures for the dow, nasdaq, s&p 500 are all trading higher after gains in european markets on strong economic reports from france and germany. also, china pledging support for the eu and its debt problems. all right. the top dog announced at the
westminster dog show. >> best in show at the 136th annual westminster kennel club, america's dog show is the pekingese. >> that best in show pekingese is named malachi. beat out a dalmation, german shepherd, doberman pincher and wild haired dachound. >> i need to watch that movie again. >> i can't watch the westminster dog show without thinking of that movie of what's going on backstage. >> of course. of course. now i'm r we're going to talk about my favorite topic, lin-sanity. you know it's a big deal when it's on the front page of "the post." thrill-lin. everyone is trying so hard. and it's on the back page,
amasin. go back to work on that. put a little bit more work on that. in the "daily news," lin and a prayer. a little weak. "just lin time." it's all a surprise, right? >> "the post" has the headlines. they know how to do it. >> it remibds me of tom brady. tom brady was sitting on the bench for the new england patriots and the starting quarterback got injured. and tom brady came off the bench and he never sat down again and he's been one of the best quarterbacks in nfl history. >> and he -- >> this guy is an amazing point guard. >> last night, the new york knicks, star player now, now he's the star player. he wasn't the star player two weeks ago but now the star player. extended the team's winning streak. the knicks really needed it. beat toronto in a dramatic fashion. see that three-pointer that he hit. half a second? >> and he waited it out. >> love it. the score was, i think, 90-87. here's what he said. >> it's a miracle from god, is
the way i would describe it, just because obviously i don't think anybody expected this to happen. >> why do i love it when athletes are like, i just want to send a shout yot to the lord. i love it. i really do. i do. it's like i've ray rapper who receives an award, i want to thank jesus christ. >> the songs are filled -- it's got's work. >> in this case, i love that. will, why is that? >> awesome. tv ratings. the knicks are up 70% since they started. >> and they have a team now. >> six-game winning streak. he scored 20 points in every one of these games. scored over 20 points. the difference between me and the tom brady story is lin literally came out of nowhere. not drafted. released by two teams and days from being released on the knicks. putting him on the floor to see if he can play. the answer is quite obviously yes. >> for a chinese journalist who are trying to figure out how to cover the story. hisself he's taiwanese. they keep saying, many will say
he's ethnically chinese. no, he's actually taiwanese, which is problematic. >> there's something called ethnically chinese? >> they made it up. kind of sort of chinese because he's taiwanese. >> he's been doing this while the stars amare stoudemire and carmelo anthony are out. they come back very soon. we'll see if lin-sanity continues. >> awkward. >> number three of the big three. he didn't come out of nowhere. he was a top player in palo alto in high school. ivy league record. >> harvard. >> yeah. >> well, it wasn't nowhere. >> he plans to play tl. >> in the nba. we're going to be doing a story. what's his first name? >> don. >> don jr. >> don iii. we love it. ahead on "starting point," we're going to talk about china pouring money into the heartland of america. the man in line of becoming the leader is visiting a farm in iowa today. we're going to chat with one of his hosts up next.
also, that's not his tray. have you seen this? this is a guy caught on tape through airport security. glances over, oh, look, there's a rolex that's been left in the bin next to mine. but you know what is interesting? look at the high quality of that videotape. they haven't caught him yet, but they will. also this morning, "get real," food police inspect a little girl's lunch her mom made for her and then they make her get a new lunch. needless to say, mom's a little angry this morning. we're going to talk about that straight ahead on "starting point." ♪
muscatine, iowa, part of the trip across united states. the top place of muscatine, 23,000. iowa is the biggest buyer of agricultural goods and iowa is the biggest grower of the top export which is soy beans. xi has been to iowa before. he visited back in 1985. it was part of a sister state program between iowa and the province where he was a regional official today. today he's going to meet with the same people he met 27 years ago including sarah landy. thanks for talking with us. i know you're going to be hosting a dinner. the pressure is on, of course, because the world will be watching and it's now 27 years later from the first time that you met him. tell me a little bit about that 27 years ago. what was that meeting like? >> well, it was a wonderful meeting. iowa had just signed a sister state relationship with habay province, one of the first engine changes was an
agricultural exchange to eyeiow. so this dell gais investigatiegy mr. xi. and we invited him to our community of muscatine to have him see the august ral businesses that he wanted to fulfill his goals? >> he was 32 years old. what was he like then? at the time, he was kind of a relatively speaking, a low-level official. was he friendly, was he excited about being in the united states? >> you know, i think you just hit it right there. one, i think at that time in particular, not many people from china or delegations had come to our state and sort of from our side, our side had not seen many chinese people. so it was very -- it was exciting for all of us. we wanted to learn more about each other. mr. xi has headed the delegations. he was very organized. he knew what he wanted to learn. he said he wanted to learn more about our agricultural
technology so he could feed his people better, growing population, and help their standard of living. and he was eager to see how we lived in the heartland of iowa. >> what's interesting now, when there are conversations certainly in this political year about china, often the tone is sometimes hostile, i think is a fairway to put it. let me play a little clip of what some of the candidates have been saying about china. >> i've indicated day one i will issue an executive order identifying china as a currency manipulator. we will bring action against them in front of the wto for manipulating the currency and go after them. >> i put forward a plan, mitt, i don't want to go to a trade war. i want to beat china. i don't want to go to war with china and make america the most attractive place in the world to do business. >> we hope that he means metaphme metaph
metaphorical war, not actual war. how do you look at the meeting that's going to happen today and the dinner tonight? >> well, i'm looking forward to work on a very positive relationship with china. i do not think those comments reflect america and i do not think they reflect statesmanship and foreign policy. china is a growing country in the world and it's to our benefit and our possibilities to work with them, trade with them, have them buy our products. so i -- we are going to have a tone of friendship. we're going to have a tone of looking at how we can build on the bridges of the past, how we can have a line of communication, so we can find a way to sell our products, find a way to work with china. when there are difference, we'll talk and work them out. >> you are hosting the dinner tonight. what are you serving? >> it's a tea at my home. vice president xi is only going to be with us for an hour.
so all of the old friends get to talk and present a memory and introduce themselves. then we are going to have some spring walls, a criminal crustini with filet of beef and a toast of friendship from our governor to vice president xi. he will get the key to our city, and we want to be an example, a positive ways to work for mutually beneficial relationships. >> sarah lande joining us this morning. that menu sounds awesome. we hope it's a big success. still ahead on "starting point," troops overseas, lots of questions about the deveer cuts to the defense budget that's been proposed. we're going to talk to key members about whether the pentagon is cutting too deep. a lunch room -- this is my favorite story of the day. inspects a little girl -- she's 4. inspects her lunch. turkey sandwich. decides that, in fact, it's
inappropriate and makes her buy the school plan meal, which is chicken nuggets. >> what? >> america is in decline. all right. we're going to talk about that in our "get real" this morning. straight ahead. yes, what? [ technician ] are you busy? management just sent over these new technical manuals. they need you to translate them into portuguese. by tomorrow. [ male announcer ] ducati knows it's better for xerox to manage their global publications. so they can focus on building amazing bikes. with xerox, you're ready for real business.
elementary school. it comes by the carolina news journal. she was forced to eat a lunch provided by her school after an inspector looked at her lunch and deemed it not nutritious enough. she spent her 4-year-old daughter to cool with this. turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips and apple juice. they said she needed a vegetable to comply with the agriculture guidelines. so along with her homemade lunch, chicken nugget, milk, fruit, and vegetable. the lunlg of the day. mom said the kid was freaked out. reference, of course, she's 4. she ate a couple of chicken nuggets. that's what they eat. nothing else. the mother then said she also had to pay the $1.25 for the lunch because they billed her for the lunch. >> that they forced her child to eat. >> the division of child development at the department of health and human services requires all lunch served in pre-k programs to meet usda
guidelines. apparently -- first of all, her t. lunch her mother packed is so much better than anything i ever sent my kids to school with. >> i never had a piece of fruit, peanut butter and jelly, bologna. >> government regulations going too far. >> don't even have to say it. right? >> right here. >> the next time up with of these conversations comes up -- >> that's crazy. see? i think people hear that and they're like, no rational person thinks that that's go a. good thing to do. plus, a 4-year-old. now she has -- she's having chicken nuggets, that's victory? come on. of course, that's all my kids eat. but i'm speaking hypothetically. still ahead this morning on "starting point," lawmakers are blasting those deep cuts to defense spending. $500 billion across the board. a congressman hunter is going to join us. he served in iran and afghanistan. we're going to talk about whether he thinks the cost of cutting like that could end up
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with lower-calorie options. with more choices and fewer calories, america's beverage companies are delivering. ♪ i kind of like that. that's "dirty glass" from congressman hunter. who knew he was rocking out. wow. we're going to get a chance to talk to him in a minute. also this morning we're talk to congressman adam smith as well. first, though, headlines. good morning. >> good morning again. as violence tears apart syria president bashar al-assad, he offers a referendum for a draft constitution. just hours after a deadly pipeline explosion killed four people in the city of homs.
opposition leaders say government warplanes set off that blast. the prosecution is expected to wrap up today in the university of virginia lacrosse murder trial. george hughley is charged in the beating death of his ex-girlfriend of yeardley love. the blood vessels in her brain twisting causing him ranlging of her brain. prosecutors in italy are fighting to throw amanda knox back in prison. they filed an appeal to reinstate her conviction in the murder of british student. the knox family says they are not concerned, saying knox' innocence was, quote, clearly and convincingly proven. president obama headed to milwaukee this morning to speak to employees at the master lock company. it's expected to outline his plan to get u.s. companies to bring jobs back home. the white house says master lock brought 100 jobs back to milwaukee, jobs that were brief usely outsourced. police want to know where this guy is. see him there? yep, that's a watch.
he's caught on camera stealing a $6500 rolex. a woman accidentally left in an airport security bin. stuffed the watch in his bag and then hopped on a plane to north carolina. all right. hate your boss? you're not alone. a new study says nearly half of workers think they could do their boss' job better than their boss. perhaps because of classic moments like this one. >> ah, we have sort of a problem here. yeah. you apparently didn't put one of the new cover sheets on your tps reports. >> oh, yeah, so far rysorry abo. i forgot. >> um, yeah. see, we're putting the cover sheets on all tps reports now before they go out. did you see the memo about this? >> the study also revealed one in three say their boss is not affective at all. one in three. and 60% say their boss has damaged their self-esteem. soledad, i say when this economy gets rolling again -- >> only 60%, really? that sounds low to me. >> wow. wow. there are so many directions i
could do go with that, but i won't. >> i love my boss. >> just keding. shannon, you rock. we love you. all right. let's turn to a serious topic now, defense secretary leon panetta cautiously defending those big cuts to the defense budget. he testified and said this. >> let me be clear. let me be clear. you can't take half a trillion dollars out of the defense budget and not incur additional risks. we believe they are acceptable risks, but they are risks. >> so here are the requested cuts. tens of thousands of troops, reduces the u.s. fleet of warplanes, and slows down the building of ships. all help the pentagon reduce the budget by more than $500 billion over ten years. so let's talk a little bit a more about those risks. we've got republican congressman duncan hunter from the state of california joining us this morning. lgs, i should mention he's a member of the armed services
committee. he quit his job and joined the marines in 9/11 and served three tours overseas. also joining us this morning on the democratic side, congressman adam smith from the state of washington. it's nice to have you both. congressman hunter, let's begin with you if i can. you heard what leon panetta said. he said there are risks and those risks are acceptable. do you agree? >> to an extent, yes. the secretary makes a good point about there are going to be risks with this process. the problem is, the president's strategy and the secretary's strategy doesn't reach out and make the navy and the air force do what they need do to do, basically. the biggest problem is this. the navy and the air force need to be able to reach out and touch people. when it comes to the economy, when it comes to world trade, when it comes to be able to get out and actually do their job and make influence in other
areas, that's the navy and the air force. and they're getting cut drastically. you can train more duncan hunters and more marines and soldiers to take hills. what you can't do is get our ship building base up again, industrial bhas. that affects the american taxpayer. at some point we're going to be short on ships and planes sfl there are plenty of people, sir -- >> you can train me but you can't rebuild those ships in a snap. >> there are people saying, and you're saying that, of course, that's an issue that you and the community that you represent, you know, the reason you care about that is because these are your constituents. >> i don't have any constituents that builds 14i67 ships. i don't have a coast at all. i have no ocean on my district. i'm all inland. what i'm talking about i don't care if it's made in minnesota, west virginia, wisconsin or san diego, for that matter. you have to have ships and you have to have airplanes. those are the ways that we protect our economy. over 80% of the world's trade is done on the oceans. if you control the oceans you control the world. if you control space you control the ocean. that's a very simple statement, it's a fact. if you don't control the ocean
other countries are going to impede upon our territory and our trade and we are not going to be the nation that we were. we're on that decline now. we're going to have as few ships as we had in world war i. nod world war ii, world war i. that should pose a problem and an unacceptable risk to the secretary of defense. >> let me turn to congressman smith. people would say, listen, here's the reali theity. reality is we cannot afford a military spending that is up 80% between 2001 to 2011 from $300 billion to $700 billion. we know following the campaign we can't afford health care costs, we can't -- there's a long list of what we cannot afford. this is just reality. do you agree? >> i think the more important point is that we are still spending a lot of money on defense. perspective is important here. we talk about the cuts over the course of the next ten years. in those ten years, every year, except for this one, the budget was $530 billion last year, $525
billion this year. it's going to go up every single year. they're talking about a cut. they're talking about a decrease in the proposed increase. so this was the proposed increase from a year ago. and the second amount of perspective that i think is important is we could spend $3 trillion a year on defense and we would still have risk. it is in fact a dangerous world. you can't spend your way out of risk. you have to figure out how to manage it t. that's what the president and secretary of defense did here. you know, six months ago they started putting together a strategy. what do we face now as we come out of iraq, as we come out of afghanistan, as we look at iran and north korea, as we weigh how china is rising as a power in asia, what do we need? what do we need to be prepared for that? we put out a strategy, a plan, a budget. it still spins an enormous amount of money well over $500 billion a year. >> let me play what the vice president joe biden had to say in october about sort of changes in strategy. here's what he said.
>> in this case, america spent $2 billion total and didn't lose a single life. this is more the prescription for how to deal with the world as we go forward than it has been in the past. >> so he was speaking specifically about libya. but if you sort of look over the last couple of years, you see that there's more focus on drone attacks to take out some big names if al qaeda operatives who are highly ranked, things like that. back to congressman hunter. isn't he basically saying it's cheaper cheaper to do it differently and the new world order calls for different? >> number one, vice president biden wants to break up iraq into three different countries. that was his idea of victory over there. i wouldn't necessarily go with his defensive opinion. here's what i would say. do we need fewer people possibly? absolutely. do we spend a lot on defense? yes. but the budget doesn't match the strategy. if we are going to go to those drones, those drones take navy
ships and take special forces guys to be able to shoot the drones off. that means you have to spend the money on the ships and the planes. if you want to cut the people, then let's talk about that. if you want to cut programs that aren't working, let's talk about that. but don't cut the navy down to the size that it was in world war i. that's how you spell disaster for this country. so biden rice right 's right in. panetta is right in a sense. the strategy says this. >> i disagree. the budget i think does match the strategy. i do think duncan is right that we have to be careful to make sure we maintain ship building and plane building capability. again, we're still doing a lot of that. this comparison to how many ships we had in world war i, the ships we had now are, gosh, 1,000 times more capable than the ships we had in world war i. i don't think that comparison quite works. yes, we need to make sure we maintain an industrial base and we're spending a lot of money to do that. i will also point out something that doesn't come up in this debate very often.
the budget money for fy 2013 that secretary panetta and the president put out is the number that congress passed in the budget control act and insisted on. the republican controlled act. >> and that -- >> duncan, i voted against it, too. >> i'm not in d.c. to physically break up this argument, we're going to have to discontinue it which i would love to do. thank you for being with us this morning. congressman duncan hunter joining us, and adam smith as well. got to go to commercial break. aheat on "starting point," going to talk about iran set to announce a major step forward in the nuclear program. what does this do to the escalation of threats? we'll take a look. and then a a woman with whitney houston two nights before she died. we're going to talk to nicky gilbert straight ahead. you're watching "starting point.". cream... a touch of sugar... and pure natural flavors. coffee-mate natural bliss. from nestle. add your flavor naturally.
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>> reporter: well, we're monitoring iranian state tv as president mahmoud ahmadinejad is preparing to make some of these announcements. you can be sure iran is going to use this day, use these announcements to send a message to the west, to washington and israel that the pressing forward with a what they're calling a peaceful nuclear program and they've been undeterred by the pressure, by the threats of war and the economic sanctions. what we should point out is that these announcements coming today are not a surprise. iran already made these plans months ago, it inforred the iaea, the nuclear watchdog, some of the steps that iran has taken has been under the watch of the iaea. let's briefly to tell you about two things they're going to announce. one, they're going to announce they're placing nuclear fuel rods in a cancer research facility in tehran and we expect them to announce a uranium facility out of the the holy city is going to be fully
operational inriching uranium at 20%. even though the world was aware that these steps were coming, expect for the next 24 hours for the information war between israel, iran, iran and the u.s., to ratchet up, expect iran to hype this announcement up as an achievement in what they call a peaceful nuclear program on the other side. it's already happening. expect leaders in israel and washington to point to this day as another example of iran taking a significant step to becoming capable in building a nuclear weapon. soledad? >> i was going say, we've already seen it. in fact, president ahmadinejad has been announcing the inauguration ceremony for later today. thanks reza for us this morning in islamabad. appreciate that update. still ahead this morning on "starting point," whitney houston's last days. a singer with her just two days before houston dooin diied. plus, congressman allan west, a tea party star. going to ask him if he's going to vote to extend the pai role
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police say that it's likely we could learn in just a couple of weeks if, in fact, prescription drugs did play a role in whitney houston's death. the "l.a. times" is reporting that doctors who prescribed drugs for houston could be subpoenaed soon. investigators also want to talk to the pharmacies who actually gave out that medication that was found in houston's hotel room. many of her friends are saying houston wasn't an addict anymore, she no longer was using hard drugs. she was taking xanax. nicky gilbert is the lead singer of brown stone. she joins us from los angeles this morning.
nicki, thanks for talking with us. our condolences. honestly, you cannot imagine a more tough time for family members and friends. tell me about thursday night because when i talked to kelly price she said she was celebrating. she was happy. she seemed like she was in a great place. >> yes. >> did she seem like she was that way to you? >> she was in a great place. we were all celebrating kelly price's grammy nominations. i didn't see anything out of the ordinary. she was with her daughter. you have images of her coming out of the venue sweaty and images of blood, i guess, on her leg or whatever the case may be, and that entire night we saw nothing that looked like any sort of altercation at all. she was sweaty i think because we were all having a good time and celebrating and in a very happy, happy place. >> so people who saw that, people who had been in the club a long time. >> exactly. she could have been coming out of church sweating like that.
>> the right church. i know what you're talking about. let me ask you a question because kelly price mentioned this. she said she was drinking champagne. she didn't have a lot to drink. i remember thinking this is a woman who's a recover addict and was taking, you know, medications, standard medications that anybody who's prescribed pills for anxiety would take, but of course all those things usually a recovering addict shouldn't be drinking alcohol. was anybody watching for that? >> here's what kind of bothers me about the whole situation. we started talking about warning signs and we started talking about what was happening thursday night. my question is what was happening 15 years ago. there's so many other people in this industry that -- whitney obviously is responsible for her choices and her decision, but i think there are people who have been around her for years and years and years and sort of seen this thing coming and i think the conversation should really be about solutions. >> let's talk about that. >> and how we prevent this from
happening to the next person. >> you tweeted this. you said the industry has to change and i'll be damn if i'm not about to be part of this. we can't keep losing artists. >> absolutely. >> give me some solutions. >> the solution to me is very simple and forgive me any artist who may have a problem with this idea, but i think that record companies police everything else. if i change the color of my hair, then that might be a problem in certain circumstances. if i gain too much weight, that would be a problem. i think record companies have to say to artists, you want to be successful. you want to be in this business, not just record companies, promoters, even the fans have to demand that artists take care of themselves. you have to have a situation where maybe there is some sort of program where artists are going in periodically for physicals like you have to do with athletes. there's mandatory drug testing. i think a great support group or great support system -- >> i'm not telling you anything you don't know, right? you're a successful performer and singer. the culture is, listen, i'm
going to give you anything i think you need to be successful. if it keeps you sipping and recording and keeps you going through the night more, i'm going to help you get that. >> that's exactly right. >> sometimes that's drugs. how do you fix that? >> again, like i said, if you have a contract that says we go in and we issue a test and there's a problem, then we're going to pull this thing back. we're going to slow it down until you pull yourself together. if somebody stopped whitney houston, we talk about $100 million advance and all of this money that's being given to artists. did you not know at the time that you issued a $100 million advance to an artist who admitted that she had some issues with drug use, i mean, give me a break. labels have to be responsible as responsible as the artists are. if it's written into your agreement -- >> let me ask you a question about bobbi kristina. here's what bobby brown said about his daughter. my daughter did visit with doctors at cedars sinai medical center. she's with her siblings. obviously the death of her mother is affecting her.
she is so young and she has been -- that's chaos for a teenage girl. that's just chaos. >> it really is. it really is. i have a daughter her age and, in fact, you know, my daughter hung out with bobbi kristina when they were younger a few times. that particular night my daughter was with me as well. bobbi kristina was in great spirits, gave me a hug and a kiss and her a hug and a kiss. one of the first things i thought about was i'm so glad i had an opportunity to wrap my arms around that child and give her a hug. right now that's what everybody in the industry needs to do. that's what all the executives and friends need to do is wrap their arms around bobbi kristina and let her know that you can speak against this, you can be an advocate to speak against these things. obviously she lost her mother and that's very, very tragic. oh, bobbi kristina's mother and her father had an issue. but at the end of the day, if we work with her and we embrace her and we let her know that it's okay and she toent have to go down that road, then i think bobbi kristina will be just fine. >> you know what i think would
be really nice would be if -- i think the formers like yourself, you don't understand the degree to which your fans really root for you. i think people were rooting for whitney houston to be successful to get her voice back. she had such a struggle. everybody was rooting for her. thank you for being with us, nicci. we appreciate it. i hope it takes off. >> it will. we've got to take action. >> thanks for being with us and getting up early. she's on the west coast. that's really early there. ahead on "starting point" this morning. the payroll tax cut is near. some people are calling for the tea party to fall in line with the deal. will congressman alan west vote for it whether he likes it or not? he's going to join us live. a musical star you'll want to see, joe jonas. he stops by our studio to talk to us. you're watching "starting point." back in a moment.
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com so they can focus on keeping the world moving. good morning. welcome to "starting point" this morning. we start with a tax cut deal that faces another key test day. that deal's going to keep money in our paychecks, but some people say no way to pay for it. is it going to pass? we're going to talk to congressman alan west. he'll join us live. plus a new video showing syrian blasting across more cities in syria. cnn is now inside that country and that country is headed toward a full-scale war. going to bring you up to date what's happening there. plus from packed concert arenas to selling out broadway theater, nick jonas. his fans have been tweeting me. he has very aggressive fans. i like that. ally join us in a little bit. "starting point" begins right now. ♪ cecelia, i'm down on my knees,
i'm begging you please to come home ♪ >> simon and garr funkle. i have a daughter named cecelia. she is like mommy. a song about me. welcome back, everybody. let me introduce you once again to our panel. nancy giles joins us. don peoples is back. i need my reading glasses. you can't see either. >> you picked up her reading glasses? >> no, we gave him my reading glasses. he can't see. will cain is back. always nice to have will. are you better? >> i'm great. feeling much better. thank you. his two little children who brought home lots of germs. >> set us back a couple of days. >> you're back strong. let's talk about this tentative deal to extend the payroll tax cut. it would save an average family roughly $80 a month. it's become a very big political issue. the deal would also expand on employment benefits and could be voted on by the end of the week. turning point on monday when house republican leaders dropped the demand that any extension would have to be paid for by
spending cuts. now it is not clear if all republicans are going to go along with that deal. republican congressman alan west of the great state of florida joins us this morning. he is also a member of the tea party. you know, you have been on the show so much you might be a co-anchor of the show, sir, dairy say? >> no. i'm getting to be pretty popular on your show. it's he great to be with you. >> thank you. i appreciate that. let's talk awe little bit about what's going on here. the big question is are you going to support the extending the payroll tax cut or not? >> well, when i listened to some of the points that were brought out last night it does cause me some consternation because one of the things i did not agree on the two-month pay cut is we'll raise the fees, fannie and freddie. there's an investigative report that's on our twitter and facebook link that you can go to our website and see because what we're really talking about is penalizing american homeowners at a time when in the district that i represent we still have a pretty big foreclosure process.
>> i hear you on all of that but that doesn't answer my question. at the end of the day when this thing comes to a vote, yes or no? >> not if we're going to do it on the backs of american homeowners, i won't support that. i voted yes in december and we had everything paid for. we were not running a deficit for social security, which is exactly what we're talking about doing. so it's about time that we get pretty genuine with the american people and not give them political gimmicks. let's start doing the things that look out for our future, not a short term economic band aid. >> we were talking yesterday, will cain was part of this conversation, that the american people like gimmicks. when you poll them they'll sort of say the that they don't want -- the poll that we were looking at, they say they both want the -- >> very care very much about the government running a deficit. they'd like to see the government take care of that. >> they don't want to pay for it. >> they don't want medicare and social security touched. >> back to the congressman, you run the risk at the end of the day if you're not popular, if people feel like you're literally taking money out of
their pockets, this could mean very much that you're not going to get re-elected? and you're in a tough redistricting fight, aren't you? >> i'm not worried about that. i have to look at myself at the end of the day in the mirror. there are many different ways we could do this. we're talking about a 2% cut on the employee side if we want to stimulate economic growth. if we could have done 4.2% on the employer side. ma i can it permanent 4.2% and explain to the american people the ramifications and detriment to social security or we could have gone back and made it a 2% cut across all the income tax brackets and made it retroactive as people began to file their tax forms. so i think that, again, i have to be responsible to the american people. i have to be accountable to them and i'm not the kind of guy that likes political gimmick. when i sit down and i look at the fact that we have a $15.4 trillion deficit. we are on our fourth straight
year of trillion dollar plus deficits, it's about time we get people who are serious and going to work for hard working american taxpayers and not tell them lies so we can get re-elected. >> the obama campaign has been leveraging off this fight the last time around. they have this thing about what would $40 do for you? it's been very effective. they'll say people will e-mail in or text in, they'll say $40 is three or four days of food. $40 is a tank of gas. $40 is half of my electric bill. another person wrote $40 is the paycheck. it's the $160 that we put away for our children's college educations. it's eating for four or five days. it's feeding my dog for a month. doesn't seem like much, but it is when you're hungry. this is a very effective tool for the obama administration. do you run the risk of losing on that front? >> well, what you just said is indicative of the problem in washington, d.c. you said a political tool. that means this is not about
good policy. that means it's not about the future for this country. as a matter of fact, we're going to accumulate our own list of the top ten things that $40 does not get you. as a matter of fact, i can't fill up a tank of gas in my vehicle back home with $40 of gas. soledad, think about what we're doing for our seniors. we're pushing social security closer to the end of a cliff. the trustees have already said we're looking at ten years before we have bankruptcy with medicare and following that social security with probably 25 to 30% with degradation of benefits. these are the things we need to say to the american people not playing games based upon $40. >> it will be interesting to see if people want to have games played or have -- >> $40. >> congressman allen west joining us. nice to see you. appreciate it. >> he goes for a run seven miles every morning. >> really? seven miles?
>> yes. >> that's no joke. >> that is no joke. other headlines, christine has those. hello. >> let's go to iran this morning. letting the world know about its nuclear capabilities. the president mack mood ahmadinejad says the uranium enrichment facility is fully operational. american and israeli officials are on high alert. there's no credible evidence of threat to israeli interests. vice president xi jinping is scheduled to meet with congressional leaders on capitol hill before giving a speech at the u.s. chamber of commerce. president obama told him that china has a responsibility to ebb sure fair and balanced
policies. shooe heads to iowa to meet with farm families. the trial of an alabama man accused of drowning his wife is underway. gabe watson attorneys said the death of tina watson was caused by a perfect storm of events on australia's great barrier reef. watson is a trained rescue diver. he should have been able to save his bride of just 11 days. rick santorum throwing a hunk of red meat to his supporters in boise, idaho. the former pennsylvania senator blasting the obama administration for dismissing a medicare plan written by paul ryan. >> don't you see how they see you? how they look down their nose at the average americans? these elite snobs. >> the next gop primary is coming up next week in michigan and arizona. and we may not have heard the last of rick perry. the texas governor sounding like
he plans to run for president again in 2016. when a reporter in washington asked him if it was possible he said, quote, absolutely. perry called his failed 2012 candidacy the most exhilarating thing i've ever done. >> linsanity spreading to every corner of the planet. jeremy lin scored 27 points and kill-lin-it to give new york a victory over toronto. they have won six straight games since lin got off the bench. i had to, i had to. >> better than the daily news which is lin and a prayer. >> that's not good. domlinatoin. >> awkward but better. too many syllables. thanks, christine. there's a new report out that says that whitney houston's doctors will be subpoenaed by police who are investigating the singer's death.
the "l.a. times" says that doctors who prescribed medications and the pharmacies that filled prescriptions will face questions. coroners have confirmed that various medications were found in houston's hotel room. a friend tells cnn she was taking pills for anxiety, to sleep and to treat her -- i guess she had a throat infection. susan candiotti is live with us. she's in newark. hey, susan. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, soledad. of course the importance when you think about it of trying to figure out exactly what whitney houston's medical history was and what medications she's on is very crucial to this coroner's investigation as he tries to pin down the exact cause of death which remains a mystery. we know already, as you pointed out, that she was taking at the very least xanax and something else for a throat infection. the question is was she mixing that with alcohol. did she have some other medical problems or underlying issues that might have led to her death. did she drown in the bathtub? these are all questions we don't know and certainly her drug past
is not something that the family wants to dwell on at this time but it's something, of course, the coroners need to concentrate on. as far as the funeral service goes, this is what the family is concentrating on at this moment. they want it to be private. they have said that the world has had whitney houston for many, many years, over 30 years, and now they want this funeral and for her to be one and her own in that church, a church where she grew up and sang as a child. we spoke with reverend carter who talked about the strength that he is getting from cissy houston, whitney houston's mother. >> well, she's hurting. she's grieving, of course, but cissy houston is a woman of strong faith. she's -- actually was testifying about how god had been so good to her to this point and how she
said he's not going to leave her now. and i was there to lift her spirits and she ended uplifting mine. it's just an amazing testimony of the grace of god. >> reporter: and so we know this will be a 1500 only invitation list to this private funeral and burial. we don't know who's on the list yet. and it's possible that they might have a camera on the inside of the church and broadcast what is happening inside on a big jumbo screen outside but they're still trying to work out those details, soledad. we know that this will be a ceremony filled with grief but also filled with questions among the many people here as they wait to find out what led to her death. >> yeah. it's terrible. really, you can understand, too, the family. they understand she's a celebrity and they want to have her to her own. thank you. still ahead on "starting point", some new video to show you. the syrian military using people. look at these pictures here, as
human shields. the revolt has reached the point of no return. also this morning mitt romney taking a big hit in the likability column. who is likeable besides will cain? we've got the numbers for you straight ahead. maybe you should jump in the race. brokered convention, will cain. also this morning, why you might be able to sit through a meal soon without being bugged by telemarketers. remember when they passed that legislation, the do not call list? >> what happened? >> now they're calling your cell phone. you're watching "starting point." we're back right after this. ♪ ( whirring and crackling sounds )
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government snipers reportedly on the streets of homs. homs is still the target of the heaviest shelling as you can see from some of that videotape there. deaths are reported in several other cities including daraa and damascus. the question today is what should the u.s. do to step up and help. an overwhelming of americans say, no, the u.s. should not help. it's a cnn orc poll. the question is does the u.s. have the responsibility to do something about the fighting in syria. only 25% of people said yes and 73% of the people polled said no. the reports of syrian troops who are using civilians as human shields. let's show the videotape. people marching through the streets. it's amazing. listen to what nick paton walsh had to say a little bit earlier. >> there have been reports the army was using detained civilians as human shields to prevent opposition militants from shooting at them. now a video, the authenticity of
which we can't confirm seems to show that. slowly they kroucrouch then nei. a child's voice behind the camera muttering, oh, mom, will they shoot them? look, look. the soldiers advance down the road. they then lie flat. >> oh, my gosh. that's incredible. nick joins us from beirut, lebanon. those pictures are so difficult to watch. oh, my goodness. >> reporter: absolutely. it is one of the war crimes i think potentially if that video proofs to be authentic referred to at the united nations. i should point out the onslaught this morning continues in homs. this area opposition strong hold, a particular part of which known as barbamar known as the syrian army onslaught. it was in that area a few days ago we heard the initial reports that human shields might be being used by the syrian army in
a way that you saw in that video earlier. that's a different part near damascus inside syria. this morning dominated, homs, by this blast that hit a crucial oil pipeline that takes oil towards the capital of damascus. black thick smoke billowing out. we're hearing, in fact, of residents there having respiratory difficulties, choking on carbon monoxide fumes. because of this the syrian military regime says it was attacks by armed terrorists. someone we spoke to said it was a syrian war plane that dropped munitions. those conversations we have regularly with activists inside homs constantly punctuated by the thud of artillery landing near the buildings where they're trying to hide. >> it's hard to watch. thanks for that update. still ahead on "starting point", the penn state sex abuse scandal has cost the university its reputation.
it's cost the university its legendary head coach, but guess how much money it's costing the university? it's in the millions. then betweens about to invade broadway. nick jonas is going to join us to talk about his new role on stage and also why he drinks a ton of coffee. you're watching -- as i do. but i'm sure it's not for my voice. there he is getting ready. nice to see you, nick. we'll talk to him live in just a minute. ♪ an old man shared some fish stories... ♪ oooh, my turn. ♪ she was in paris, but we talked for hours... everyone else buzzed about the band. there's a wireless mind inside all of us. so, where to next? ♪
>> that's james taylor. nicely done. i love james taylor. he's a nice guy. i interviewed him a couple of times. let's talk politics because, why not. new polls to get to. really interesting polls, especially this one which is a new poll out in a key battleground state. it's all about the santorum surge. this is a quinnepiac university poll. santorum has a seven point lead. the national polls santorum has a two point lead over mitt romney. then this poll, have you seen these favorability numbers. can we pop these up? favorability numbers, mitt romney's faf rabl numbers, the polls are hard to read, if you go top row, was 67%. has dropped down to 54%. >> oops. >> that's bad. the unfavorable rating was 25% not long ago now 40%. will cain is gathering up to say something. >> gathering up with a huge question mark above my head.
i don't know what happened other than perhaps his interview with you. his one statement that went out there that everyone could disagree with. what has happened to make his numbers skyrocket? >> or is it rick santorum seeming possible? >> no. this is the result of being the front-runner for a long time. he's being attacked constantly. gingrich, santorum, the republican party is not totally comfortable with him because he's more to the center. he's the most electable republican out here campaigning. newt gingrich will be popping champagne. all of us on the obama side of newt gingrich with the nominee. santorum couldn't hold his own state of pennsylvania. ultimately this is romney finding his legs and being bumped around, which is actually good for him. by the way, obama -- >> nancy's like, no. >> obama came off of the iowa caucuses and caught hillary clinton in new hampshire in the polls. >> made him a stronger candidate. >> that's what's happening with
romney right now. >> i don't think so. i don't think it's going to make him a stronger candidate. i agree with you. what he said when you interviewed him in this casual way adds up to a number of remarks that just makes him really seem pretty insensitive to what most middle class and working class people have to deal with. although i completely can't believe santorum on contraception and some of the other issues and women's place being in the home and whatnot. he has this working class kind of heir about him where he connects with people in a way that mitt romney can't. >> i think santorum -- i have follow him a little bit on the campaign trail. i think he has really genuinely gotten stronger. if you could pick a candidate who has used the time well to grow. >> i agree with you. >> i would say that's rick santorum. what happens in michigan? let's say mitt romney loses in michigan, which some polling suggests that he does? >> then we're going to have a hard time determining who the republican nominee is going to be. we're going to go all the way to the convention most likely. at that point, who knows. but i would suspect even out of that convention mitt romney
would end up being the nominee. i think the best that guys like rick santorum and newt gingrich can do is deny mitt romney a clear path. it doesn't mean deny him an eventual path. here's a difficult conversation. >> we love difficult conversations. my forte. >> if you were mitt romney, how do you attack rick santorum? your path to attack newt gingrich was clear. i'm talking about in a primary. how do you convince republican voters rick santorum is the wrong choice. newt gingrich, that was easy. he had such balancing gauge that it was weighing him down from left to right, but how do you go after rick santorum? there is no clear path here to attack rick santorum? >> what about the social issues? is that a good place to start. >> that's not going to work. we're going to have to continue this conversation in a commercial break. stop. we'll be talking ahead this morning on "starting point" about republicans who have been slamming the president's defense budget. deep cuts across the board. some say it's disconnected from the risks though. we'll talk about that. from craig's list to westminster dog show. why do i always want to do that
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>> shame on you. >> totally. i feel bad. so what i did, i came in and i listened all morning to the airborne toxic event which has taken off of a book white noise. literary reference to one of my favorite books. they're good. we in the newsroom decided we liked them. >> this sounds good. >> they're good. so i would like to apologize profusely to all of them. people should go to youtube because they're very entertaining. i like them. i stand corrected. jim taylor, thank you for the e-mail. >> see, soledad, there's room. >> oh, god, me more than anybody. >> mitt romney. >> yeah. no, i think they're good. i correct myself. all right. headlines to get to this morning. christine, i bought you a cd from the airborne toxic event. >> excellent. i can't wait to get it. thanks, soledad. meantime today, the prosecution expected to wrap up in the university of virginia lacrosse murder trial. 24-year-old george huguely is
charged in the beating death of yardly love. this week they testified that she was hit in the head so hard that it twisted the blood vessels in her head. huguely facing first degree murder and five other charges. defense secretary leon panetta defending the pentagon's proposed military cuts. he testified in front of the armed services committee on the $614 billion he says the cuts were carefully planned. the cuts would slash the size of the army and the marines and cut back on shipbuilding. last hour soledad spoke with two members of the armed services committee, adam smith and mr. hunter. >> you have to have ships and have you to have airplanes. those are the waste thys that w protect our economy. if you control the oceans you control the world. if you control space, you control the oceans. >> we talk about the cuts over the course of the next ten years. in those ten years every year except for this one the budget was $530 billion last year.
it's going to be 525 this year and it's going to go up every single year. when they're talking about a cut, they're talking about a decrease in the proposed increase. >> los angeles mayor antonio villaragosa got another high profile gig. he will chair the 2012 democratic convention where democrats are expected to nominate president obama for a second term. the convention will be held in charlotte, north carolina, this september. penn state says the jerry sandusky case has cost the school nearly $3.2 million. those costs come from legal, consultant, and public relations fees. penn state says it will not use alumni, student or taxpayer money to foot the bill. the school will, instead, use money from insurance policies and from low interest loans. now tired of robo calls like this one? >> press 1 now on your phone to speak with a live operator. >> the fcc is cracking down. set to approve new rules to make
it harder for companies to just dial you or text you like that. telemarketers will have to get your written consent in order to contact you. they have to let you opt out of any future calls during their robo call. the new rules do not apply to real people who call you and annoy you. >> the top dog announced at the westminster dog show. >> best in show at the 136th annual westminster kennel club, america's dog show, is the pekingese. >> the best in show pekingese is named malachy. he beat out a german shepherd, a doberman pin cher and a wire haired dat sunday to win. >> is he cute? >> he looks high maintenance. >>'s completely high maintenance. that's the kind of dog -- you need a dog that doesn't shed if you're going to come to my house. >> the top 1% of dogs.
>> right. the mutts are the 99% and that pekingese is the 1%. christine, thank you. i like that dog. that's cute. let's talk about whitney houston. new report says that her doctors are going to be subpoenaed by police who are investigating houston's death. the "l.a. times" is reporting that the doctors who prescribed medications and the pharmacies that filled those prescriptions are going to face some questions. this weekend family and close friends will say farewell to whitney houston. it's a private funeral that will take place in newark, new jersey. it will be at new hope baptist church where she grew up. the eulogy will be presented by the pastor that wed bob by brown and whitney houston. it's so interesting to see the family in spite of all of these people who would love this to be a public event are pushing to make it be a private event. >> i don't think anybody can even begin to understand, maybe you can, but it's such a big moment in so many ways but in
other ways it's such a private and intimate moment. there's going to be weeping and crying and sadness and regret. there's going to be all these things going on. i don't know if it needs to be fully public. >> bernice king was telling me about going to her father's funeral t. angered her that all of these other people got to be part of that moment. he was my dad. she never sort -- it was really interesting all those years later sort of talking about how she felt as a child to see all these people loving him so much when she felt it was her time. you have to imagine that the family would feel the same way. earlier we were talking to nicki gilbert. i thought she was terrific. >> she was. >> she said, listen, we've got to do something. one of her suggestions is to have the record companies monitor -- i was going to ask you about that. >> i don't know about that. >> listen, they mon tour your weight, hair color. >> female artist, they do. >> is that unrealistic? >> i don't know if that's really the way. i think that there is a personal
responsibility that we all have to keep ourselves as happy and as healthy as we can be. >> if she gained 30 pounds and cut her hair off they'd be calling her into the office. they would. >> they'd be all over her. >> but do you really want the people at the record company saying to you, don't do this, don't do that? >> no. >> in terms of drinking or smoking or eating or anything like that? >> but they do. >> the eating. >> they can't actually control it even if they do say it. they can still gain weight, lose weight, cut her hair, grow her hair out. doesn't matter what anyone says to you. >> that same interview, you asked do celebrities know how many people are rooting from them. i'm a little taken aback by the amount of public attention whitney houston has gotten. not because she wasn't great? she was great. she hadn't been in the public eye for the last ten years. >> when you grow up -- >> she's not a celebrity that people felt they knew. that doesn't mean she didn't deserve it. did whitney know that this many people were rooting for her, that she had this kind of support in her corner?
>> in her oprah interview she talked about losing all sense of normalcy. you can't go to the corner and the people didn't no who she was, they had the sense of who she was. it seemed like it was frustrating and challenging. >> it's apparent now. i wonder if it was apparent to her a week ago. >> i don't know that she knew. >> that's part of the cause of addiction. frankly when you look at substance abuse, the cause is normally insecurity yis or isolation. i hope that this -- that her death would do something positive, which is to bring attention to the suffering of millions of american women who are dealing with -- who are being prescribed antidepressants, who are drinking, and who are suffering because there's this tremendous burden that society puts on women to be moms, to be wives, to be career women, to be -- maintain this sense of beauty and youth. whitney houston is not the only woman in america suffering. she's certainly not the only woman in this last month that
has died from some unusual cause at a young age. >> she isn't. but at the same time, it is difficult work being a pop star. it is difficult work having to hide who you are every single day. >> to market who everybody thinks you are. >> but it's a choice made. it's a choice that they seek out. >> it's got to be a painful choice. nice to have you always. >> thank you for having me. ahead on "starting point," we're going to talk about a boy band sensation who has made his way to broadway. nick jonas. he's selling out how to succeed. so ph ia, come to the tv. nick jonas will join us live after this break. stay with us. t spection. every time a vehicle comes into a ford dealership you'll be presented with one of these. we check the belts, hoses... brakes. tires and the pressures... battery, all your fluids... exhaust system, transmission... we inspect your air filter... it gets done,it gets done quickly and it gets done correctly.
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you were in les mis. >> i was in an any get your gun, the christmas carol. >> six-month run how to succeed in business without really trying. it's nice to have you. >> thank you for having me. >> twitter going crazy because you're here. we were talking about whitney houston and sort of the pressures of being a pop star. do you feel like you have any normal life? you are here with a host of people because that's how you travel. >> starting with whitney houston, basically i found out the whole cast of the show found out just before our show so it was extremely tough for all of us just because she's such an inspiration for all of us as a vocal list. it was one of those things where we all had to take a minute and center ourselves up again and get ready for the show. the audience would need a bit of encouragement, uplifting. she's an inspiration for so many people. for her and her family, prayers and blessings.
it's tough. when you sort of are in this for as long as she's been in it, there are a lot of things that can become difficult. i'm sure that being surrounded by the wrong people can also play into that. but i know for me personally, it's just about trying to do the best i can to kind of keep a level head through it all and luckily i've had two brothers with me the whole time which has made it a bit easier. >> we were talking about the grueling schedule. you're doing eight shows a week now. it's going to grow, right? two shows on saturdays and sundays. >> that's one weekend. one weekend we have nine shows in a week. the week before it's seven shows. it's a little bit of a different schedule. eight shows a week. this show is very intense as far as the dancing and singing goes. >> are you physically exhausted? let me show a clip of it first. for everybody in new york who has been to see the show but is it physically exhausting? >> it is really exhausting. it's one of those things where i say -- where i've done shows like les mis in london, 2010.
that's a really big vocal show. with this one the vocal side of it is amazing and i love singing the show. the dancing has become a challenge. it's a lot of talking as well. i have a softer talking voice. i've had to find a place to let it set in so my voice doesn't get tired of the talking side. the singing is amazing. i love doing that no problem. >> you have diabetes. >> i do. >> how does that play a role in your exhaustion and your -- i mean, what does it exactly mean for you health wise when you're doing something that's already physically grueling. >> it's about keeping a close eye on it. i have a dresser, someone who helps me get ready. they help me with this. i give them my pouch with all of my supplies in it. anything i need during the show i have it. with diabetes there are good days, in between days and bad days. >> what's a bad day feel like? >> a bad day would be when your blood sugar's high. the thing about -- or when it's low. the thing about diabetes, type i, it's unpredictable.
you can do your best to sort of manage it as you hope it's going to end up during the day and take the right amount of insulin, eat the right things, have some physical activity, but one day it could just decide it's going to be more difficult than others. yesterday, for instance, was one of those days where it was a bit more difficult but i kept a close eye on it, made sure i was feeling my best for the show and luckily i'm in the best health i've been in since my diagnosis. >> with all that dancing, i bet you are. >> has anything happened to you during a performance with the diabetes that you had to combat really fast? >> not during "how to succeed." i've really tried to keep a close eye on it because it is a really physical show, but on tour with my brothers i've been a diabetic now for going on seven years this year and so, you know, over time there have been moments where i felt low or high blood sugar on stage. >> what does that feel like? are you dizzy? >> it's a horrible feeling. high blood sugar, you feel really thirsty, have to use the restroom. your attitude can be a bit
shaken just because your body's out of sync. when you're low you feel like you might pass out and feel a bit sick. so both are a horrible feeling and it's just about dealing with it in the moments. >> my top assistant in florida, her daughter was diagnosed as type i diabetes a little over a year ago at two years old. she's adjusting to that. the nice thing is with the proper medical treatment and care she's basically living a very normal and productive 3-year-old life. >> is that why you're so vocal about it? >> i think so. the thing that was different about my journey with diabetes, i was at an age where i had an understanding about it. i can't imagine the young people that are diagnosed 2, 3, 4 years old where they're still getting a grip on life and to have to deal with this on top of it. maybe it would make things easier if it's something you've dealt with from the time you can remember. with me, i was at a place where
i was kind of, you know, aware of how to take care of it and it was a bit overwhelming because it was a complete life adjustment. i was able to deal with it and i've got great tools and a great doctor. that's what i focus on. >> jordanna from italy says this. hi, i'm jordanna. can you ask nick to say hi to me and let him know i'm so proud of this. can we show the crazy fans. >> hello, jordanna. how are you? >> you just pleased -- >> i can tell you, i see nick every morning. my 9-year-old daughter has a picture of nick and his brothers and her when he performed at the innaug gur rags of president obama a couple of years ago and so every morning she asks me to make sure i told you hello. >> jordana, you owe me big from italy. nice to have you, nick. thanks for being with us. your fans have been tweeting all morning. we love that. >> hello to all of them. >> we've got to take a short break. still ahead on "starting point."
if it's february we must be celebrating black history month. today's reveal focuses on a truly american art form, jazz. jazz 101 pause i sit on the board of new orleans jazz orchestra. jazz is believed to have its roots in the late 1880 steakhouse when african-americans developed new music, blues from gospel and jazz from sad songs in slavery. african-american and creole musicians in new orleans most likely developed the very first jazz in the 1900 steakhouse. sidney boucher and king oliver helped spread jazz. in the 1920 steakhouse louis armstrong became famous for his jazz. dave brew beck, charlie parker, john coal train, herb by hancock. today if you're a jazz fan or if you want to be one you should
start with winton mcelis. his father is ellis and bran ford. another name to know, ron carter. he was miles davis's bassist. he's about to start his european tour. son any rollins, 2011 he was awarded the kennedy center honors and the national medal of art. 84 years old. last but not least irvin may field jr. who leads the new orleans jazz orchestra which is helping bring back the city of new orleans. so little jazz 101. >> son any rollins played a sound track on one of my favorite movies "alfie." >> "end point" up with our panelists. we're back in a moment. my job is to find the next big sound.
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