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turning to television commercials heading into the general elections. >> it's like a football coach who gets to see an advance preview of the teams. coverage of the arizona/michigan primaries begins at 6:00 eastern with a special coverage, john king 6:00 and complete coverage with wolf blitzer and the best political team on tv, mark preston is a part of. that's 7:00, anderson cooper, candy crowley, john king, and much more. "cnn newsroom" continues now with susan malveaux live in one of those states, phoenix, arizona. suzanne? >> thank you, deb. live from phoenix, arizona, where voters are picking the republican presidential candidate today. i'm suzanne malveaux, i want to get you up to speed for this tuesday, february 28th. sad news from ohio. another victim of the school shooting has died. the medical examiner says that 17-year-old russell king was declared brain dead early this morning. the alleged shooter identified by student witnesses as t.j. lane makes an appearance in
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juvenile court. that is happening this afternoon. ohio's attorney general says he thinks it is likely that the suspect is going to be tried as an adult. a lawyer for his family says the young man is distraught, remorseful. but a student who was grazed by a bullet says the shooter didn't look like that way during the attack. >> his face was expressionless. it looked like he was on a mission and he knew that he was about to do it. >> we're going to go straight to a police news press conference happening in ohio. let's bring that to you live. it is starting right now. >> it's just touched a lot of people. a lot of families. i happen to be a graduate of chardon high school. i met my wife here. most eerie feeling in the world was walking down the halls
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yesterday, running down them in response to the incident we had. the law enforcement were well prepared, well planned, and executed. they carried out the plan. now we move to another important phase. and while the investigation continues and we still look for the why and what and who, we now deal with a community looking to heal. my 5-year-old grandson last night wanted to call my niece, a chardon high school student. he asked her are you okay?
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simple words from a 5-year-old. are you okay? and she said yes and started to cry. we have a community asking are you okay? we need to get that message out. chardon, northeast ohio is rallying like nothing we've ever seen before. the outpouring of concern, hope, and encouragement has been unbelievable. people calling just saying thank you. we need your help as we move forward to get the correct information out. the accurate information out.
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and we thank you for what you've done. we thank you for your patience. we have a community that would demand nothing less from us. at this time, i would like to introduce the superintendent who will talk about the upcoming school schedule. thank you. >> good morning. i'm superintendent of a proud chardon local school. again today my thoughts and prayers go out to the victims, especially the two families who have lost their children to this ordeal, and we certainly keep our thoughts and prayers for the three other people hopefully having a speedy recovery. we also have more victims. and those victims are our professional staff, our teachers, and our employees. in re-thinking of opening school tomorrow, we've come up with a little abbreviated plan.
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and i'd like to share that with you tonight so we can communicate that not only to our local people but it may help other people in need somewhere around the country. as part of the healing process for our students, parents, faculty and staff, chardon schools will reopen the facilities according to the following schedule. wednesday, february 29th, all high school faculty and staff are asked to gather at the high school at 9:00 in morning. counselors will be available. all kindergarten through eighth grade faculty and staff are asked to gather at munson elementary school at 9:00. again, counselors will be available. thursday, march 1st, parents and students will be invited to return to the high school together again. parents and students will be invited to come to the high school together. parents and students are invited to return to all of their respective buildings on that day. counselors will be available. on friday, march 2nd, all of our
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schools will be open for business, certainly not as usual, but certainly we have plans in place. i would like to echo the sheriff's comments about how the media's been respectful, thank you. just so you know, we've also instructed our employees and our personnel not to have specific conversations and i ask in response to this horrific scene you honor that. we're trying to keep one focus, one mission. as you know, this is a close knit community, we open our arms to your help, i'd especially like to thank the media people that have been with us. some of you my whole career. thank you for your support and thank you for not tearing us apart through this ordeal. it's important that i do thank you for that. i do want to reiterate that we do have grief counselors onhand, and they're available at our middle school. we also have -- they'll also be
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available this evening 4:00 until 9:00 tonight across the street at st. marys parish, which we'll have our vigil this evening at 7:00. again, without the entire support of our community, and it's been an outpouring of support. we're blessed to have the social agencies from united way to the mental health agencies to various community members that are stepping forward. and we are embracing them. because we want them to be part of the healing that needs to take place on our campus. many of these people have children here in our school, many of the law enforcement people on campus yesterday and will continue to have a presence in our district have children in these schools. and i want to assure parents. i want to assure our faculty, and most importantly our students that you will be safe when reentering our program.
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as i said yesterday and i mean it from my heart, hug your kids, kids hug your parents. news media, when you get a chance to get home, do the same. we're not just any old place, chardon. this is every place. as you've seen in the past, this can happen anywhere, proof of what we had yesterday. again, i thank the law enforcement, i thank my good friend, the sheriff, tim mckenna, our police chief and everyone that works with them, and people are too numerous to actually talk about right now and to be honest, i can't remember a lot of their names right now. as i said, please take this home with you. talk to your children. don't text them. don't facebook them. talk to them. this is a wake-up call for all of us.
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many of you are parents that have cameras in front of you, please take it to heart. i mean it from my heart. now i'd like to introduce tim mckenna. >> thank you. good morning. my name is tim mckenna, i'm a police chief here in chardon. i wrote down some bullet points because i want to make this clear as possible. the update with our investigation. multiple agencies both federal, state, and local worked late into the evening, early hours this morning trying to tie up all our loose ends. it's sad to say at this point i'm going to announce the second student russell king has passed. at 4:49 this morning, the medical examiner's office contacted me to advise me of that. and i feel sorry not only for that family but all the families that are affected by this. the prosecutor's office well up to speed last evening and is
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preparing for a 3:30 hearing this afternoon in the juvenile court. for legal reasons, i will not discuss the -- or release the name of the person that's being brought in front of the judge this afternoon. once that's taken place, we'll probably be able to talk more about it. at this time, i cannot provide you a motive for this. i'm hoping that after the hearing this afternoon that the prosecutor david joyce will address you at the 4:30 news conference that will be held here again at the board office. both the sheriff's office and chardon police department are preparing the 911 tapes as we speak. i've asked the pio from the sheriff's office to get a head count on that. currently i'm having 50 made up and i believe his office is doing the same. the next scheduled press conference will be here at 4:30 shortly thereafter the hearing
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up at the juvenile court. and my last thought is this not only of the families, but i've said this because i am a hometown boy, as well. as many people are. chardon will take care of chardon. and i thank you. >> that's going to conclude this press update. we have a handout that gives the outline. vicky here has the outline, see her, get your copy of it, it shows what the school will be doing. >> you've been listening to a press conference out of chardon, ohio. just some of the updates of those five students shot. two now pronounced dead. i want to bring in mike brooks law enforcement analyst with sister network hln. and also law enforcement contributor "in session." mike, we heard from these officials here what really struck me is the fact that you have the school superintendent saying to the parents of these kids who are returning in the next couple of days, don't text
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them, don't facebook them, talk to your children. how important is that? that these kids who come back, talk to their parents, face to face so they can feel a sense of security again when they go back inside that school. >> suzanne, it's extremely important. and i can tell you, it's going to have a profound effect on these people for quite some time. you're talking about a small town of 5,100, and you heard the school superintendent, you heard chief tim mckenna who said we're all from here. you had police officers, firefighters, ems people whose kids were going to that school yesterday. they didn't know what was going on there when they responded. in fact, i spoke to a woman last night on hln special report and her daughter was in the school right down the hall when the shooting occurred and she got a text from her daughter and she didn't know what was going on there, but we heard about the plan. and that plan by police, by fire, by ems, by the school
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system, suzanne. it worked perfectly even though, you know, it was the aftermath is horrible, but i think that many lives were probably saved by the response of the people at that school. and it's going to take a long time to heal. but i think it's smart the way they're going about this. they're going to somewhere psychological help for the high school kids, for the middle school, for the grade school because, again, small community, everybody knows everyone else. and they probably know all the victims in this particular case, suzanne. they are doing it the right way. >> and, mike, what also struck me, as well, is the fact they're not only inviting these students to go back inside the school and to visit the classrooms to talk with the teachers, but he said specifically i welcome the parents. i want the parents to come back with the students, how important is that in actually having the parents understand not only what has happened, but how the school
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handled it and how they're moving forward. >> the parents are these children -- are these kids best support system. and when you're going through something like this, you need a support system. and especially a small community where a lot of people know everyone else. and there's still -- we have that hearing this afternoon where t.j. lane who they haven't officially announced him as a shooter, but witnesses say he was the shooter, will appear in juvenile court. we don't know what charges will come down this afternoon. you heard chief mckenna say they'll probably be able to address that a little bit better this afternoon at their afternoon conference, after that hearing to see what charges he is going to face in the death of these two kids and the shooting of three others. but a community like this -- and you heard chief mckenna, chardon will take care of chardon. >> and really quickly here, mike. is it likely he's going to be
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tried and charged as an adult? do we know that yet? >> we don't know that yet. there always is that pobls because he is, you know, 17. is him appearing in juvenile court? is that kind of them saying, well, he's going to be charged as a juvenile? we don't know. we heard that local state and federal investigators were still tieing up loose ends late last night. we still don't know what the motive is, but we could hear that from the district attorney this afternoon. >> all right. mike brooks, thank you very much, mike, for putting it into perspective and a sad story that we are following, but we will continue to follow it. a lot of developments there. and again, the court hearing that's going to take place in the afternoon, 3:30, the court appearance of the alleged shooter. some other stories in the rundown. first, he calls himself america's toughest sheriff, but does arizona's joe arpaio go too far? >> there are some who look at it and they say, well, you know,
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the chain gangs, the female chain gangs or the juvenile chain gangs or the inmates with the pink underwear that this is about promoting you and not about promoting justice, bringing justice to the community. >> well, i don't think i need chain gangs to promote myself. >> and republican candidates blame the president for the rising price of gas, but hear what ali velshi found out. then why so many women are learning too late in life they can't get pregnant. how one simple test could make the difference. i'm robert shapiro.
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we're back live from phoenix. it is primary day here in arizona. republican race in michigan is also getting a lot of attention, but there's a lot at stake here in arizona. namely the delegates, we're talking 29 up for grabs, that's 2.5% of the total needed to win the nomination. and the primary is winner take all. well, none of the republican candidates even close, right, to the number of delegates needed to lock up the nomination. but mitt romney is way ahead of his challengers. as of now. the magic numbers for the republicans, 1144, romney has 125, that is more than all the
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other candidates combined. newt gingrich has 38, rick santorum 37, and ron paul with 27. so like most places in the country, jobs, the economy, on voters' minds here in arizona, other issues like foreclosure crisis, immigration also front and center. cnn's miguel marquez. good to see you, we've been talking to voters over the last couple of days, and they are finally starting to come and vote. what are folks telling you today? >> well, there's a lot of ron paul voters out here today, and what they are most interested in, most concerned about is what you mentioned, the economy and they also want smaller government. they think in part the economy is bad because government is just too involved in all areas of the economy right now. we are seeing a lot of romney supporters out here, as well, but a lot of our strategic romney supporters. they think mitt romney's the only guy who can take on barack obama in november and really has
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a chance. it's kind of a mix out here. most the votes out here have already been cast in arizona because they were done by early balloting, about 250,000 votes will be counted coming up quickly here and those results will be released around 10:00 p.m. eastern time tonight. today, if there was low voter turnout, which is quite likely, it may help one of those insurgent candidates. either santorum or ron paul. back to you. >> and miguel, it was interesting, there are only three hours that the voting centers have been open here. a lot of folks we talked to over the weekend really weren't happy with any of the choices here, and they were really quite -- they didn't even know, they were uncertain whether or not they were going to go and vote. how's the turnout so far? are they excited the people who are actually showing up? >> some of them are excited, certainly, but you know, because they have so much early voting here, a lot of it's been done, but what voters will tell you over and again here is that the candidates keep harping on this,
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the border, the immigration and, you know, arizonans have dealt with that for years, decades, they know that. but the economy and the tough times here, that's new. you don't have to drive very far in the suburbs and through phoenix to see the number of strip malls and closed doors and shops all over the city. it is absolutely shocking to see. people do believe the economy's getting better here, but they want it to improve a lot faster and they think somebody like romney who has had business experience has a better shot at doing that. >> we've been hearing that a lot from folks that they believe that mitt romney in particular a lot of small business people we've talked to that perhaps he's going to be favored here. is anybody upset or complaining about the fact that they all high-tailed it out of here after the cnn debate last wednesday and headed to more competitive states? >> they're not upset by it, i think they sort of see it as just par for the course. because it's a winner-take-all
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state, because romney wrapped up the endorsement of the governor jan brewer and john mccain, he was the only guy who had money to run ads here, he was the odds-on favorite two weeks ago, now things are much, much closer, so you know, santorum may have made a huge error in judgment in not contesting arizona more. but if he, you know, if romney wins by one vote, he takes all 29 votes. so it's a very tough call for any candidate who's trying to manage their money and figure out where to put their time and effort, i think santorum and the other candidates figured it wasn't worth it. >> all right. miguel, good to see you. obviously we're going to come back to you and keep up with voters are saying. and of course, we got a chance because immigration is such a hot issue to talk to the self-proclaimed toughest sheriff in america. one of those people as you know, he is the sheriff of maricopa
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county, joe arpaio. >> as you know, to many latinos, you are the face of racism and discrimination. you know that. >> well, i'm a pretty nice guy having lived in mexico city, south america, texas, and arizona. i've never had anybody problems with a latino. they love me. just because i'm enforcing the state -- >> they don't -- you're making fun -- >> no, i'm not making fun. >> yes, because -- >> how do you know they don't? >> you are making fun of the fact that you are -- >> how do you know? >> that testy exchange. we also interviewed sheriff arpaio, he essentially says he's not concerned about how we all question how he handles his job. >> you think i'm afraid that you're going to blast me? go ahead and blast me. actually, you help me. every time they blast me, my polls go up.
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>> ahead, my in-depth interview with sheriff joe arpaio about a tough stand on illegal immigration as well as the charges of discrimination. stick around. [ male announcer ] this was how my day began.
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there's a wireless mind inside all of us. so, where to next? ♪ live in fooex phoenix, arizona, one of the hot issues among voters is gas prices. according to aaa, the national
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average climbed another 2 cents last night. we're now talking $3.72 a gallon. republican candidates are blaming the president. newt gingrich is promising to get the prices down, way down, he's talking about $2.50 a gallon. >> my energy policy, the potential of getting to $2.50 a gallon gas and diesel fuel. the idea that there are things you can do so much better and so much smarter than barack obama that allows the country to create jobs, to have affordable energy, to be independent of the middle east. i think there's a resinating affect going on. >> our chief business correspondent ali velshi knows all things about money. hey, good to see you. first of all, we talk to a lot of folks here in arizona. i mean the people who are driving the rvs, their family across the country, the retired couple. even this guy who is running a hot air balloon business and says propane is going up, as well. tell us what's going on here. >> yeah, arizona, new mexico, texas, those are all places
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where people drive a lot, they like their big vehicles. and the problem here isn't that gas isn't likely to get to $2.50 any time soon, it's at $3.72, it's likely to go higher. here's why. >> the price of a barrel of oil accounts for about 3/4 of the price for a gallon of gas. so a significant move up and down should be within days be reflected within prices at gas pumps worldwide. u.s. crude has been getting more expensive, going from about $80 a barrel last october to about $110 now. that's an increase of 40% in just five months. but what americans may be seeing at the pump right now is gasoline catching up with the price of oil. gas prices are actually up only 9% since october from $3.40 a gallon then to $3.70 a gallon now. if they had really tracked the price of oil, gasoline would be selling at a national average of $4.76 a gallon.
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but prices are higher and absent a clear and obvious culprit, americans and their politicians in this election year are pointing fingers. legendary oil investor t. boone pickens says blaming speculators is a tired old saw. >> that's the first thing that politicians will say the speculators are doing it. and when anybody comes out with that is a first reason and they can't give you any more to talk about than speculators, they don't know what they're talking about. >> pickens says the mix of increased global demand and just the potential loss of the 2 million barrels per day that iran currently supplies the world has got investors worried. iran has threatened to shut down the strait of hormuz, a choke point on the eastern end of the persian gulf just 29 miles wide at the narrowest point where an estimated 1/5 of the world's oil passes, but iran depends on the revenues of that oil and may not
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want to jeopardize them. still, companies like airlines, which actually use oil speculate on it to protect their businesses and hedge against price spikes. others, investors will never need the oil invest for profit. between the tension around iran and increased global demand for oil, the profiteers are betting there's no way prices will drop. are they driving the prices higher themselves? >> there isn't anybody running up the market on a speculative basis. the market is moving up because the oil supplies are tight globally. from there you can goose it up a little bit, but not much. >> reporter: there may be another reason for the sudden gas price spike. u.s. oil production is up, but gasoline consumption is down, leaving the u.s. with more gas than it needs. so instead of excess gasoline driving prices down -- >> in the last six months, not only have we stopped importing gasoline, we're actually exporting gasoline. the total drop in supply of gasoline available to consumer
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in the world is down by about 1.5 million a day. >> with americans complaining how high gas is going, what they're forgetting is that gas prices in america are comparatively so cheap compared to the rest of the world that we are actually selling refined gasoline to other countries who will pay more for it and that's got people a little hot under the collar here in the united states, suzanne. >> oh, yeah, absolutely. the folks here in arizona. we've seen some of the gas prices, it's getting close to $4, about $3.88 or so people are paying a gallon. ali, do you ever think there's going to be a time when we could actually see $2.50 gas again? >> yes, in fact, there will be, and then we'll domesticate unicorns and i'll grow hair on my head. it's not likely to happen any time soon. it's a long-term issue. sure if we do all the right things now, which we're not likely to do, we may, demand for gas will drop because people are -- this is pinching them. they're buying more
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fuel-efficient cars. we'd have to move closer to the cities we live in like the rest of the world, that's not the american way for the moment. i don't think that's likely. >> yeah, i don't think it's likely either. the unicorns will arrive before that happens. but one of the things that people have been debating is whether or not it was actually the gas prices that contributed to the recession or if it was the foreclosures, the homes that were going under that happened first. how this all kind of fits together here. we know that rick santorum, at least, was talking a little bit about that. how does this actually factor into the big economic picture here? >> yeah. traditionally most recessions have been triggered by gas prices. but rick santorum's dead wrong on this one. the numbers are all in from this last recession. this was unequivocally caused by the housing crisis, the fact people's mortgages reset at a level, a monthly price too high for them to pay and as a result, they defaulted on their house payments. i don't know of anybody in america who defaulted on their house payments because of gas. as serious a problem as this is,
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rick santorum had a habit in this campaign of throwing out economic ideas that don't have a whole lot of basis in reality and this is another one of those. >> all right. thank you. i want to go directly to president obama. he's talking about the turn around in the auto industry. the role of the government bailout. very controversial. he's now addressing the united auto workers conference in washington. let's listen in. >> -- said we should do that. some even said we should let detroit go bankrupt. you remember that. you know him. think about what that choice would've meant for this country. if we had turned our backs on you, if america had thrown in the towel, if gm and chrysler had gone under. the suppliers, the distributors that get their business from
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these companies, they would have died off. then even ford could've gone down, as well. production, shut down, factories shutter, once proud companies chopped up and sold off for scraps, and all of you the men and women who built these companies with your own hands would have been hung out to dry. more than 1 million americans across the country would've lost their jobs in the middle of the worst economic crisis since the great depression. in communities across the midwest, it would have been another great depression. and then think about all the people that depend on you. not just your families, but the school teachers, the small business owners, the server and the diner who knows your order, the bartender who is waiting for you to get off. that's right.
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their livelihood are at stake, as well. and you know what else is at stake? how many of you who have worked the assembly line had a father or a grandfather or a mother who worked on that same line? how many of you have sons and daughters who say, mom, dad, i'd like to work at the plant too? these jobs are worth more than just a paycheck. their ticket to a middle-class life that make it possible for you to own a home, raise kids and maybe send them, yes, to college. give you a chance to retire with some dignity and respect. these companies are worth more than just the cars they build. they're a symbol of american
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innovation and know how. they're the source of our manufacturing might. if that's not worth fighting for, what's worth fighting for? so no, we were not going to take a knee and do nothing. we're not going to give up on your jobs, your families, your communities. so in exchange for help, we demanded responsibility. we said to the auto industry, you're going to have to truly change, not just pretend like you're changing. and thanks to outstanding leadership like bob king, we were able to get labor and management to settle their differences. we got the industry to retool and restructure and everybody involved made sacrifices, everybody had skin in the game. and it wasn't popular. and it wasn't what i ran for president to do.
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that wasn't originally what i thought i was going to be doing as president. but you know what? i did -- i did run to make the tough calls and do the right thing. no matter what the politics were. [ applause ] i want you to know, you know why i knew this rescue would succeed? you want to know? it wasn't because of anything the government did, it wasn't just because of anything management did, it was because i believed in you. i placed my bet on the american worker, and i'll make that bet any day of the week. >> yeah! [ applause ]
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>> and now, three years later, three years later, that bet is paying off. not just paying off for you, it's paying off for america. three years later, the american auto industry is back. gm is back on top as the number one automaker in the world. highest profit in its 100-year history. chrysler is growing faster in america than any other car company. ford is investing billions in american plants, american
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factories, plants that bring thousands of jobs back to america. also, the entire industry has added more than 20,000 new jobs for the past 2 1/2 years, 200,000 new jobs. and here's the best part, you're not just building cars again, you're building better cars. after three decades of inaction, we're gradually putting in place the toughest fuel economy standards for our cars and pickups. that means the cars you build will average nearly 55 miles per gallon by the middle of next decade almost double what they get today. that means, folks, every time they fill up, they're going to be saving money. they'll have to fill up every two weeks instead of every week. that saves the typical family more than $8,000 at the pump over time.
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that means we'll cut our oil consumption by more than 2 million barrels a day. that means we have to import less oil while we're selling more cars all around the world. >> that was president obama talking about the comeback of the auto industry. we are also focusing on sheriff joe arpaio. he is the man for a lot of folks out here. his tough assistance against illegal immigration makes him a highly controversial figure. he's the sheriff and making no apologies. >> i could have been the governor, i'm not being egoti egotistic egotistical, several times over. i'm from massachusetts, i'll be in a convertible instead of a horse. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's new glucerna hunger smart shakes.
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live in phoenix where folks are already casting their ballots. right now the arizona primary,
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voting centers have been open for about three hours now here in arizona. whoever gets the most votes is going to take all 29 of the state's republican delegates. so, here romney does have the advantage having placed second to senator john mccain back in 2008. but last time, romney had the endorsement of one tough sheriff. that sheriff joe arpaio has turned his own platform into one of the hottest election issues this go round. we're talking immigration. like it or not, here sheriff joe arpaio is a force to be reckoned with. we spent time together at the state fair. >> it's so very nice to meet you. >> reporter: the self-proclaimed toughest sheriff in america. >> why don't you run for president? >> reporter: we found him selling pink underwear at a local art fair. he first made them famous when he forced inmates to wear them along with pink handcuffs. his tough stance on crime in illegal immigration has made him a king maker among republican
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candidates. many have come to him to kiss the ring and win his coveted endorsement. >> michele bachmann, herman cain, and of course, perry i campaigned for him in iowa, which i see a lot of iowa people are walking by. and romney called me briefly. >> reporter: for now he's being coy while he enjoys the attention. >> everyone comes to you, they need your support, they want your support. are you going to give it before the tuesday primary? >> no. >> no? not even a hint? >> nope. >> reporter: it's hard to take two steps without someone approaching him with praise. arpaio's known for banning movies, coffee, cigarettes from his prisons in the name of saving taxpayer money. cutting salt and pepper from his prisoners' diet. >> you keep up the good work.
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i'm an immigrant and i did it the hard way and the right way. >> arpaio's tough stand on illegal immigration has drawn a hard line in the sand. the justice department accuses him of racially profiling latinos, making random stops, searches, and arrests, and many hispanics we talk to here agree. >> they pull you over and you ask him how can i help you? you know. what did you do? and they say -- they start just asking for your i.d. and stuff and -- anybody says it doesn't happen, they're hypocrites or don't want to believe the truth. >> always stopping the latino community, always targeting the low-income community. >> but the sheriff is standing his ground. >> i'm the sheriff, i'm going to enforce those laws. if some people don't like it, go get another sheriff. >> speak to some of the hispanics here who accuse you, who say i've been unfairly
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pulled over. i've been unfairly targeted by your office. >> these are isolated incidents, there's no systemic racial profiling. i know it, and i want the justice department to prove it. let them prove it. >> the issue is so hot and so divisive among voter here. even this phoenix couple that's been together for eight years can't see eye-to-eye. >> i don't think there's racial profiling. >> i've been a victim of it. are you kidding? >> i live by a home depot and the illegals stand out there all the time. it was as annoying as could be. they'd come up to your car, you felt unsafe. >> how can you look in a car and tell if somebody is illegal or not? >> all right. so the voting centers, they've been open for more than three hours or so. voters are going to cast the ballots to see who they'd like. and of course, we're talking to
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representative vick williams. thanks very much for joining us. obviously, a lot of folks who are excited about this, but they're kind of disappointed you don't have the candidates this week. they all went to michigan and other places. who are you supporting? >> well, i voted a couple of weeks ago in the early voting process for mitt romney. >> mitt romney, why so? >> well, i think mitt romney best fits the the criteria for what i believe in personally, a fiscal conservative, economic development. also, i think that works well in my legislative district, where we have the largest cluster of bioscience jobs isn't the state of arizona. his commitment to business and business issues, in staying on track, i think is the key. you know, kind of going back to james carville, it's the economy, stupid. and i think that's where he's focusing in on and that's what draws me to mitt romney. >> quoting the democrats now, are you? >> if the words are right, absolutely, we'll take it. >> now, the national journal's actually reporting when you look at romney and his electability, and the polls show that really there's no difference between romney and obama, a matchup, and santorum and obama, a matchup.
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it's only one point difference. i think an eight-point difference with santorum, a seven-point difference with romney there. so is there really an edge, or is this electability edge disappearing when it comes to romney? >> i can't speak to that, but i know this. look, this is an internal battle within the gop, fiscal conservatives versus social conservatives, and also we have equality of a libertarian candidate. i don't think either one of them have a lead or an edge. whoever wins the gop nomination, i know i'm going to get behind. if it's romney, if it's santorum, for that matter, if it's ron paul. because we're here to make sure we get obama as a one-term president, get away from obama care, get away from the stimulus-type spending and get back to fiscal responsibility, job development, and private sector in this country. >> and one of the districts you represent, the southern district with a border of mexico, a lot of people we talk to, immigration is such a personal and controversial issue. we had that interview with joe arpaio. he's a very popular person here,
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but we also spoke to latino voters who are very frustrated. they feel that they're being targeted here and that this issue is being used simply as a political football for arpaio and many other republicans. >> i would disagree with that. since i've been elected office, back in 2008, i've walked over 13,000 homes. as i've gone door to door and talked with constituents in my legislative district, the overwhelming discussion that goes on on those doorsteps is, what are we going to do about illegal immigration? and we came up with solutions on a state-based level, because our federal government is refusing to do anything substantial in stemming the flow of illegal immigration. i would want to add this. it's about legal immigration. we want people to come to this country, we want people to immigrate here legally, and we want people to come here and work. it's not about race, it's about legal immigration. >> how do you address the concerns, however, of a whole community, a latino community, we know it's 30% in this state, that really do feel targeted? >> i think it's a messaging aspect for the republicans, and we have to learn to work with
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our hispanic community and find on common grounds about developing illegal immigration policies, state-based issues in which we're doing. i think a lot of that is also, it's a misinterpreted and pushed to the median ways that are unfavorable, but i don't think it's targeting any kind of racial group, whatsoever. once again, it's about good policy, about legal immigration policy, and doing it on a state-based level. because our federal government is absolutely failed in doing anything on this issue. >> there are a lot of people who i spoke with who also feel that there's a failure here for any of these politicians to address the problem with the gas prices. and so many people are feeling that, in the way that they live and having to change their lifestyles. and some people, retired people, who are really suffering here. is there anybody who speaks to that concern, who says, i've got a realistic policy here that can change that? >> well, i think, once again, you take a look at all the republican candidates that are running. they want to increase local production, national production, oil shale. you've seen the veto from the obama administration on the pipeline, coming from canada.
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we need to find every available source of energy that we can find. that's going to drive down the pricing. if the president, i'm sorry, or if these candidates, whoever's elected as a republican nomination, going on with the president, makes a statement that we're going to find every available source, you're going to see the price of oil start to drop. >> all right, vic williams, appreciate it. such a pleasure to have you here with us. and you think we'll see results about 8:00, 9:00 or so. >> yeah, about 8:00, results will start coming in. thanks for letting me have a little time on your show today, appreciate it. >> well, tonight, cnn, two more opportunities for the candidates to separate themselves from the republican competition. coverage of the arizona and michigan primaries beginning at 6:00 eastern with a special edition of "john king, usa," followed by cnn's complete live coverage of the results at 7:00 eastern with wolf blitzer and the cnn political team.
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17-year-old russell king was declared brain dead earlier this morning. the alleged shooter, identified by student witnesses as t.j. lane, makes an appearance in juvenile court. that is at 3:30 this afternoon. ohio's attorney general says he thinks it's likely that the suspect is going to be tried as an adult. now, last hour we heard from the local sheriff who got emotional talking about the shooting. >> most eerie feeling in the world was walking down the halls yesterday, running down them, in response to the incident we had. the ems, fire, and law enforcement were well prepared, well planned and executed. they carried out the plan. >> the school superintendent says that students are going to be back in school thursday morning. their parents also are welcome to come with them. counselors are also going to be
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on hand. the knockdown drag out fight for the republican presidential nomination playing out in two states today. i'm here covering the arizona primary. voters are also heading to the polls in michigan. in all, the the candidates battling for 59 delegates and for the momentum as well. michigan is a critical test for mitt romney. he was born there, his father was governor. polls show now he's in a virtual tie with rick santorum. now, just a short time ago, romney responded to the critics who say he hasn't excited the conservative base. >> i'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try to get support. i am who i am. and if i get selected, great. and if i don't, i can live with that too. more carnage on the streets of is syria. [ screaming and gunfire ] an opposition group says at least 60 people have been killed already today. speaking just a short time ago, secretary of state hillary clinton said she believes that
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syrian president bashar al assad could be tried for war crimes in the future. wounded french reporter edith bouvier has now been safely out of syria. confirmation coming just a short time ago, taken out. french president nicolas sarkozy saying that happened. bouvier was wounded in an attack that left two western journalists dead in the besieged city of homs. that happened last week. british photographer paul conroy was also wounded in the attack. activists smuggled him out of the country and into lebanon earlier as well. the cruise liner that caught fire in the indian ocean yesterday is getting a tow to seychelles. more than a thousand passengers and crew on board. no injuries have been reported. now, the ship is the sister of the "costa concordia," which was shipwrecked off the coast of italy. that happened earlier in january, killing 21. the "concordia" survivor went to washington to attend tomorrow's congressional hearings on cruise ship safety and passenger rights.
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>> laws need to be changed to protect our citizens. they need to do the drills before we even leave port. that's major. so that everybody knows what they're supposed to do. now back to the ohio school shooting. two families are now mourning the loss of a child today. three others are waiting by hospital beds, praying for their children to recover from gunshot wounds. people everywhere are asking the question, why do things like this even happen? can we do anything to stop it? wendy walsh, she's joining us now. she's a psychologist. she's co-host of "the doctors." wendy, thank you for joining us. a lot of us are talking about this today. and we're asking ourselves the question, what can we do to prevent things like this the from happening in the first place? >> well, you know, if you saw "bowling for columbine," michael moore's documentary, already so many factors that go into these kind of school shootings. and as parents, what we really
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care about is how to protect our own kids and how to make sure that our kids, at least, never get into such an emotional trauma that they would consider some kind of violence. i like the -- >> are there signs? >> there are always signs. and you have to be in communication with your kids on a regular basis. number one, parents, please, follow your kids on twitter! follow them on facebook. see the comments of their peer groups. get to know what they're doing. this is not snooping. going in between their mattresses to pull out a diary, that's snooping. but standing and -- if they're standing with a megaphone on a street giving a public announcement, if you ignore it, you're being a bad parent. so if 400,000 people are reading their tweets, you better be reading it. >> and wendy, what was interesting i thought as well, the superintendent of schools said to the parents, don't text them, don't facebook them, talk to them. talk to your kids. are parents having a hard time doing that now in the age of social media, where they're not
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really sitting face-to-face, eye to eye, and actually talking about what's taking place in their lives? >> not only are they having trouble talking to their kids, when they do get their kids face to face, they're talking and not listening. the way to connect and stay bonded with where are teenager is to get involved with what they're involved in. read the books they're reading. go to the movies they're going to. you don't have to be their best friend, you can still be their parent, but get into their head space so you can really see the pressures on teenagers today. >> how do you know if your child is getting ready to do something violent? if there are signs or they might be frustrated, but you don't necessarily suspect they're going to do something that is dangerous to themselves or others. are there signs that your child is about to cross the line and do something like that? >> well, i think all humans give signs that they're angry or they're depressed. they do it with a change in
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eating habits, with a change in sleeping habits, with the way they dress. if they're suddenly emo and black head to toe, or they may be cutting and doing things that teenage -- negative behaviors in the way that teenagers express themselves emotionally. and i would say, don't think this is a phase and it will pass. you must attend to it. your child is in crisis. now, the vast majority of teenagers go through hormonal rushes and teenage depression and don't become violent. but that doesn't mean you shouldn't attend to them when they are expressing needs. >> all right. wendy walsh, thank you so much. we really appreciate it. it's primary day here in arizona. also, in michigan, things really heating up. santorum campaign has been robo calling democratic voters in michigan, asking them to come out and vote against romney. which brings us to today's talk back question, is it wrong to vote for a candidate you don't support? carol costello's got more.
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a lot of people looking at this thinking, wait a minute, is this really fair? >> it's a strange question, isn't it? vote your conscience or not, preferably not if you're a certain kind of democrat in michigan, the sneaky kind. the kind who will vote for someone's ideals they cannot tolerate for their own greater good. joe desanno is that kind of democrat. a democratic strategist, he has contacted nearly 50,000 democratic voters, urging them to vote for rick santorum. someone whose views most democrats vehemently oppose, as a way to beat mitt romney. our own dana bash acquired desanno's robo call. >> democrats can help embarrass mitt romney and expose him as the weak front-runner that he is by supporting rick santorum on tuesday. >> maybe it will work. in the 2000 republican primary, democrats came out in relatively substantial numbers to vote for john mccain in order to hobble then front-runner george w. bush, and mccain scored an
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upset. this year, santorum is playing too. he's released his own robo call, urging reagan democrats to vote for him. >> romney supported the bailouts for his wall street billionaire bud buddies, but opposed the auto bailouts. that was a slap in the face to every michigan worker. and we're not going to let romney get away with it. >> there's a real effort to kidnap our primary process, and if we want republicans to nominate the republican who takes on barack obama, i need republicans to get out and vote. and say no to the dirty tricks of a desperate campaign. >> and hello! remember, rick santorum was also against the auto bailout. but political shenanigans aside, shouldn't we, the people, vote our conscience? or is all fair in politics? so the "talk back" question of the day, is it wrong to vote for a candidate you do not support?
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i'll read your comments later this hour. >> all right. thank you, carol. good to see you. here's a rundown of some of the stories we're covering over the next hour. first, he's under investigation for racial profiling. but arizona's self-proclaimed toughest sheriff in america says, not true. we'll talk to joe arpaio about the claim and the time that he arrested the king. yeah, i'm talking about elvis. >> why on earth did you lock up elvis presley? >> well, let me put it -- i was single at the time, let's get that straight. so i saw the motorcycle driving by, 100 miles an hour, but a beautiful blond was on the back, and naturally i was looking at the blond, but not the -- but i didn't know it was elvis. i took him to the station, i'm elvis presley, that was in 1957 when he was doing the hawaii move. this guy's a good con guy. he conned me out of giving him a ticket, took him next door to fix his motorcycle, and then he gave 12 cadillacs to narcotic detectives. for the first time in nascar's history, they had to postpone the daytona 500.
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arizona. the arizona primary, taking a closer look at the primaries. the race for the white house, including what's on voters' minds. like most places in the country, jobs, the economy, of course, everybody's thinking about it here. other issues like the foreclosure crisis, immigration, also front and center. cnn's miguel marquez, he is outside a polling place in gilbert, arizona. miguel, we've been talking to folks throughout the weekend, these last couple of days. are people, first of all, showing up to the voting centers. are they excited about what's happening today, or is it a little bit lackluster? >> reporter: well, it's a little bit lackluster, but there's a steady stream of voters coming in. so perhaps 50, 65, 70% of the votes have already been cast and they just have to be counted now. but we've been seeing at this polling center in gilbert people coming in throughout the day. we're hearing from a lot of ron paul supporters, but also a lot of romney supporters.
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a lot of strategic romney supporters as well, a lot of people saying, well, he's the only guy who can really take on barack obama in the fall. suzanne? >> he had a double digit lead two weeks ago, but that seems to be shrinking. are people frustrated with him? do they feel like he's the guy who can beat obama? >> reporter: yeah, it's a bit of a shocker it's shrunk so much. he was up by double digits, 20 points two weeks ago. and now depending on the polling, it's down to four or five points, which is amazing, because he has mccain's -- john mccain's endorsement here, the governor's endorsement here. he's able to run ads here. he's the only candidate who's run ads in the state. he's mormon. there's a lot of mormons in the state and they do tend to get out and vote. so it's really, really surprising that it's come so close. and you know, it's, perhaps the case that santorum and ron paul, if the voting today, there's a low voter turnout, it is possible that they could come fairly close to romney. and if he doesn't have a big
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spread at the end of the day, these smaller campaigns may look at that as real momentum going into super tuesday. suzanne? >> miguel, final question here, what's the one thing voters are telling you that's really important to them this time go-around. >> reporter: you would think in arizona, it's all about immigration and the border, but it's not. it's the economy. and you don't have to drive very far in this state and around this town to see the strip malls and the stores shut and closed. people want somebody who they believe can take care of the economy. they like ron paul because he talks about small government and letting government get out of the way. they like romney as well, because he's been a businessman before and they think that he can actually do the job and step up and run the economy in a better way. suzanne? >> miguel, thanks. we'll come back to you shortly. well, he hit the road last night and didn't finish driving until early morning. today's daytona 500 winner is joining us next. refighter. when i grow up, i want to write a novel.
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voting centers have been opened now for four hours here in arizona. whoever gets the most votes will get all 29 of the state's republican delegates. here romney has the advantage, having placed second to senator
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john mccain back in 2008. but last time, romney had the endorsement of one tough sheriff. that sheriff, joe arpaio, has turned his own platform into one of the hottest election issues this go-round. like it or not, here in arizona, sheriff jeff arpaio is a force to be reckoned with. we spent some time together at the state fair. >> it's so very nice to meet you. >> thank you. >> reporter: sheriff joe arpaio, the self-proclaimed toughest sheriff in america. >> why don't you run for president? >> reporter: we found him selling pink underwear at a local art fair. he first made them famous when he forced inmates in maricopa county to wear them, along with pink handcuffs. his tough stance on crime and illegal immigration has made him a kingmaker among the republican candidates. many have come to him to kiss the ring and win his coveted endorsement. >> michele bachmann, herman
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cain, and of course, perry, i campaigned for him in iowa, which i see a lot of iowa people walking by. and romney called me briefly. >> reporter: for now, romney is being coy while he enjoys the attention. everybody's come to you, they need your support, they want your support. are you going to give it before the tuesday primary? >> no. >> reporter: no? >> no. >> reporter: not even a hint? >> no. >> reporter: it's hard to take two steps without someone approaching him with praise. arpaio's also known for banning movies, coffee, cigarettes, and porn from his prisons, all in the name of saving taxpayers' money, like the $20,000 he says he saved by cutting salt and pepper from his prisoners' diets. >> can i shake your hands? you keep up the good work. i'm an immigrant and i did it the hard way and the right way. >> but it's arpaio's tough stand on immigration that's drawn a
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line in the desert sand. the justice department accuses him of racial profiling latinos, and many hispanics we talked to here agree. >> they pull you over and you ask them, how can i help you? you know, what you doing? and they say -- they start just asking for your i.d. and stuff and, yes, i've experienced it. and anybody that says that it doesn't happen, they're hypocrites or they just don't want to believe the truth. >> always stopping the latino community are always going, targeting the low-income community. >> reporter: but the sheriff is standing his ground. >> i'm the sheriff. i'm going to enforce the law, those laws. if some people don't like it, go get another sheriff. >> reporter: speak to some of the hispanics here who accuse you, who say, i've been unfairly pulled over, i've been unfairly targeted by your office. >> these are isolated incidents. there's no systemic racial
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profiling. i know it and i want the justice department to prove it. let them prove it. >> reporter: the issue is so hot and so divisive among voters here, even this phoenix couple that's been together for eight years can't see eye to eye. >> i don't think they're racial profiling. >> i've been a victim of it, are you kidding? >> i live by a home depot, and illegals stand out there all the time with annoying as can be, they come up to your car, you kind of feel unsafe. >> how can you look in a car and tell if somebody is illegal or not? >> cnn tonight, two more opportunities for the candidates to separate themselves from their republican competition. coverage of the arizona and michigan primaries beginning at 6:00 eastern with a special edition of "john king, usa," followed by cnn's complete live coverage of results at 7:00 eastern with wolf blitzer and the cnn political team. side by side with kenseth,
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he rips -- matt kenseth wins the daytona 500! >> pretty amazing finish. rain, fire could not stop my next guest from winning his second daytona 500 in the wee hours of the morning. matt kenseth. he is live in daytona beach, florida, where, wow, i can't imagine, matt, you got much sleep there. this is one of the most bizarre nascar races ever. you took the checkered flag this morning at, what, 1:00 in the morning? >> yeah. it was pretty late, so, yeah, we waited a long time to get that 500, actually 505 miles in with the overtime green light checkered. it was a long couple of days to get that race in, but it was really exciting and entertaining, and man, we had such great cars. i was pretty proud to come out on top last night. >> matt, tell me about this. because this was like the first time, right, in daytona history, that it was delayed twice by rain, then you had this huge
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crash that happened. this is a sport, i know, that's known for speed, but you had to wait for a while. did it kind of affect your mine going into this, your strategy? just having to wait like that? >> well, it didn't really change our strategy too much, but certainly, waiting all day was one thing. the biggest thing that was tough for me was we finally worked our way back, had a good pit stop, came out in the lead except for the guys who stayed out, and had that crash under yellow and that fire and that two-hour delay. that two-hour delay with 50 laps or 40 laps left to go in the race was a tough one. that was a tough one to get over and get back in the car and get ready to go. >> what was the most bizarre thing about that that happened yesterday? >> i'm sorry? >> i was just asking you, you know, what's your takeaway from what happened? i mean, it was such a bizarre day, if you were to watch that. i mean, what really struck you
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about the day? >> well, the wreck with that fire was something that i haven't really seen before, with juan's car breaking at exactly the wrong time and hitting that big jet dryer and that delay, but i thought nascar did a great job of getting all that cleaned up and getting the race done as soon as they could and get all the miles in and stuff done. it was a long week, a crazy week. so that was really entertaining. there was a lot of stuff that went on. really competitive racing. a lot of wrecks throughout speed week, but overall, i thought it was a really competitive race. our best five four was really fast. we were able to be in the right place at the right time at the end and able to pull it out. it was a long day and it felt awful good to come out on top. >> i'm sure it did. and we saw you guys, racing in prime-time, instead of in the afternoon. do you think we're going the see monday night nascar anytime soon? >> yeah, i think that would be pretty cool. you know, i always like watching monday night football.
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a lot of people look forward to that. so i think the monday night race was a good idea. they can see with the weather system that it wasn't going to be try until a minimum of 5:00 anyway. so i think it was really great for the people at home. i know it was tough on some of the fans that couldn't stay the extra day and stay the night to watch the races, but i think it was a great call by nascar to get it on prime-time monday night. too bad it got broke up in the middle of that with that fire and that delay, but i thought it was a great call, and it was pretty cool to race prime-time on monday night. >> well, congratulations, matt. and, obviously, a cool $1.5 million you walk away with as well. so you got any plans for that? >> college funds. >> college funds, very responsible. i didn't expect to hear you say that. >> yeah. >> well, thanks again, and congratulations. it was one hell of a race to watch. we really appreciate it. moving on to politics, santorum asking democrats to vote for him in michigan. and mitt romney says, that's a
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we're back, live from phoenix, where it's primary day here across the state of arizona. it's a chance for voters to have their say on the race for the republican presidential nomination. also, here's a rundown of some of the stories we're working on next. he may be best known for porsing arizona prisoners to wear pink underwear. why the republican candidates for president want joe arpaio's endorsement so badly. then peta comes under fire for putting down hundreds of animals at its virginia shelter. and coming up in ten minutes, a planned concert by singer erica badu canceled because officials didn't like
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her tattoo. what happens here in arizona matters to those in the white house. we're talking about immigration as well as the growing latino population. joining us to talk about arizona primary presidential race, all good stuff, political scientist, bruce merrill. he's a senior research fellow at the arizona state university. good to have you back. >> nice to see you, suzanne. >> what are we looking at here, when you take a look at how republicans are going to the voting centers today, do we expect that it is going to be a romney win? >> yes, we do. it would be really unusual at this point for santorum to win. largely, the only way he has a chance is if the turnout is exceptionally low. then it's possible. but romney had a very strong early voting program. the election in arizona is basically over. >> was that big mistake on his part? >> i think that's a really interesting question you asked. did he make a mistake by not
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coming here? he'd closed with romney from 20 percentage points down to being within two or three percentage points with ten days to go. the question is, had he come here, spent some money here, could he have won? the problem is, he also had to look at michigan. and michigan is a winner-take-all primary. so i think he just kind of looked at the two and said, i don't have the time or money to go to both. i'm going to michigan. >> talk a little bit about the role that hispanic latino voters are going to be playing in this election. this is almost 30% year in arizona. do we think it really is going to have a great impact, a critical role when it comes to the general election? >> not really. the tragedy in arizona is in 15 to 20 years, a majority of the population will be hispanic. but hispanics traditionally have not voted. i do not expect that they will vote in very high percentages this election year either. >> you don't think that because of the issue of immigration, illegal immigration, how hot it is, that hispanics, latino
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voters won't really participate in the process? >> not really. there'll be a little bit more participation. they did get active in recalling senator pierce, because that had implications for illegal immigration, but the highest correlation with voting turnout is education. and as a group, hispanics have very low levels of education. so they have the potential to control arizona politics in the next 15 or 20 years. but right now, they're not a major force. >> what about on the democratic side? >> well, even on the democratic side, there's very few hispanic republicans, although keep in mind that the hispanic community is not a homogeneous community. there are many very conservative hispanics. one of the fastest growing movements in the hispanic community is joining evangelical christian churches. >> that certainly could help santorum? >> well, not in this election, because it's all over in
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arizona, but, yes, it certainly could. because evangelicals tend to be social conservatives. if the republicans were smart, i think they'd make a much bigger effort to appeal to the hispanic community, particularly in the fall. arizona is not in play right now for clinton -- clinton! for obama. but clinton won here in his second term, and there's a lot of things going on in arizona that could bring arizona into play this fall. >> all right. professor merrill, thank you so much for joining us again. we'll probably see you tomorrow. >> good. see you later. thanks, suzanne. >> thanks again. we've been talking a lot about this today. the santorum campaign has been robo calling democratic voters in michigan, asking them to come out and vote against romney. the romney campaign says, that's a dirty trick. but santorum, well, he's fighting back. our jim accoosta, he finds himsf in the middle of all this when he tries to talk to santorum about it. jim is joining us from grand
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rapids. jim, tell us what happened. >> reporter: well, it was very interesting, suzanne. we tried to catch up with the former pennsylvania senator inside of a diner just outside of grand rapids, where we're standing now to ask him about this robo call, why he went out and had this robo call recorded that basically calls on democrats in this state to cross over in though primary and cast ballots for rick santorum, to send a message to mitt romney. had a chance to catch up with the former pennsylvania senator earlier this morning to ask him about it. here's what he had to say. >> reporter: even though the romney campaign says it was a dirty trick, what's your response to that? >> oh, i see. when he goes out and recruits 53% of the voters in new hampshire aren't republicans, that's okay. but when i go out and have a message of growth and opportunity instead of running negative ads or running robo calls with my voice from four years ago, that's not a dirty trick? and i didn't complain about it. i don't complain. you know what, i'm a big guy. >> reporter: so there you go.
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rick santorum saying he's a big guy, he can take the criticism on this robo call. and just to give you a little bit of context of what he was saying in that exchange, suzanne, he was basically referring back to the fact that mitt romney attracted a lot of independent, perhaps some conservative democratic voters in new hampshire. he talked about that there. he also talked about the fact that the romney campaign is running a robo call here in michigan that uses some of rick santorum's endorsement of mitt romney, a back in 2008. they took some sound from an interview that santorum did with laura engram, chopped it up, put it in a robo call, and they're running that here in michigan. so you have the santorum accusing the romney campaign of a cheap shot, and the romney campaign accusing santorum of a dirty trick. no question about it, this race is becoming very personal as this race gets down to the wire here in michigan. >> yeah, nasty politics. thank you so much. r&b top charter, erica badu, she's banned from performing in
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banned in malaysia. so you're erykah badu, doesn't have to leave, but she can't get on stage either. nischelle turner is joining us live from l.a. nischelle, i love erykah badu, what happened? >> me too! i know. this is kind of crazy. neo soul artist, erykah badu, she has been banned from performing in malaysia after pictures circulated with what appeared to be a temporary tattoo of the arab world ahla. they are warned to dress modestly on stage. erykah badu was reportedly already in malaysia for the show
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when the cancellation was announced. we have reached out to her representatives for a reaction, but have not heard back just yet. >> is anybody suggesting, or is she suggesting maybe she would take that temporary tattoo off or she's going to stick with it? do we know? >> you know, that's a good question. if it's temporary, it seems like maybe she could take it off. but you know erykah badu as well, suzanne. she's kind of one of those stick to your guns kind of girls. so you never know what she's going to decide to do. >> she certainly is. she's probably going to stick with that tattoo. tell us a little bit about "dancing with the stars," right? they've got a new cast of characters that are going to be shaking their thing. >> shaking their thing, i love that. the big announcement came this morning, and it's a mixed bag. you've got big names, you've got some athletes, some lesser-known stars as well. i'll give you the list. you ready? soap star jack wagner from "bold and the beautiful." he's on the list. melissa gilbert from "little house on the prairie." wild receiver donald driver from the green bay tackers.
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william levy, he was in that video with jennifer lopez, very sexy. sherri shepherd from "the view." she loves the show, she's been wanting to get on the show and she's on this season. opera singer katherine jenkins, disney star roshon fegan. jaleel white, remember erkel. and gladys knight. and he's dancing with trystan, who danced with nancy grace last time. >> and gladys can dance. next time, you and i. we'll be on the next cast of characters. you just wait and see. >> gotcha. >> if you want to check out everything breaking in the
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entertainment world, check out "showbiz tonight," 11:00 eastern on hln. peta euthanized 95% of its animals in a virginia shelter last year, most of them dogs and cats. disturbing to many animal lovers. we've got a live report, up next. ♪ ( whirring and crackling sounds ) man: assembly lines that fix themselves. the most innovative companies are doing things they never could before, by building on the cisco intelligent network.
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one of the most recognized animal rights groups in the world is accused of killing thousands of adoptable pets. peta, people for the ethical treatment of animals, is under fire for euthanizing almost all of the dogs and cats in its care. cnn's sandra endo joins us live from washington. sandra, i don't understand this. is it true that practically all the animals at peta's headquarters were euthanized last year? how do they explain that? >> yes, suzanne. actually 95% of the animals in its virginia shelter were euthanized last year. and the new numbers were posted, in the state of virginia, and it shows out of 2,050 animals processed in peta's shelter, 1,965 of them were euthanized. 28 were adopted, 11 were reclaimed by owner, and 31 were transferred to other animal shelters. now, peta is defending its
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practices, saying there's a reason why their kill rate is so high for last year. a spokesperson for the group says the animals, which were euthanized were sick, injured, too aggressive, and otherwise unadoptable. the group says there's a better way to stop so many youth euthanizizations. >> we have three spray/neuter clinics where we're based that go into improverished areas and do free spay/neuters. because we believe that the solution lies in prevention, and that we won't see the end to euthanasia until we stem the flow of unwanted animals. >> but these figures are troubling to the center for consumer freedom, which is backed by some food and beverage companies. have a listen. >> and that's the real
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frustrating thing here, is peta has a budget of over $30 million a year. and yet they don't seem to spend enough money to keep the animals for more than 24 hours, let alone have open hours so that people can come in and see if they want to adopt the animals. that's why i think people are so frustrated with what's going on here, and especially the hypocrisy, considering that it is peta, people for the ethical treatment of animals. >> now, peta fired back, saying that these critics are the ones who are in the business of hurting animals, not protecting them. suzanne? >> has peta always had this high a kill rate in the shelter in virginia? >> well, good question. because we went through the numbers from previous years, and we found that peta's kill rate wasn't as high as 95% in the past, but that's also because the state's reporting procedures changed in 2010. still, we pound that peta performed roughly around 1,000 to 3,000 euthanizations each year.
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today's talk back question, is it wrong to vote for a candidate you don't support? richard says, "all is fair in love, war, and primaries." more of your responses, up ahead. time now for the help desk, where we get answers to your financial questions. joining me this hour, john ulzheimer is a president of consumer education and lynnette is the founder of the blog, john, first question for you comes from beth in michigan. beth says she and her husband disagree with what to do for an extra $500 a month. they've got an emergency fund that will sustain them for about 2 1/2 years, we contribute 20% to our retirement accounts and $5,000 a year to our children's 529 accounts. should we pay down our mortgage or invest in the market? >> i think they should split the difference. there's really no perfect way to invest that. put $250 towards the mortgage and $250 towards the stock
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cnn is now confirming there has been a third death in the shooting at the high school in chardon, ohio. i want to go to ted rowlands, who is in chardon, ohio, for more on this. ted, obviously, very sad and disappointing news here. of the five who were shot, now a third student has died? >> reporter: yeah, suzanne. this is the third student, demetrius hulen, 16-year-old, died this morning, according to the hospital where he has been since yesterday, when he was airlifted from his town in chardon here to cleveland. we did get a statement from his family. it says, we are very saddened by the loss of our son and others in our chardon community. demetrius was a happy young man who loved life and his family and friends.
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we will miss him very much. but we're proud that he will be able to help others through organ donation. we ask that you respect our privacy during this very difficult time. a very difficult time, indeed, suzanne. as you mentioned, this is the third death of the five students that were wounded during the shooting yesterday. this is the third death now. we are outside a juvenile court detention building where we will, in the next hour and a half, see for the first time t.j. lane making his initial court appearance. he, of course, is the suspect here, accused of this rampage, which has now killed three people here in ohio. suzanne? >> ted, what can you tell us about this young man, this third student, who passed away this morning? >> well, he was in the group of students that was sitting in the cafeteria at the time that this shooting took place. according to somebody who saw the surveillance tape, and there
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is surveillance tape. i talked to the sheriff and the police chief just a few moments ago, and they say that there is tape and it is very clear that someone who has seen this tape talked to the cleveland plain dealer, and he says that there were three young men, and these are the three young men that are all dead now. there were three young men sitting in an area of the cafeteria, and the shooter in this case, t.j. lane, on this video comes into the cafeteria. he sits down at a separate table, and they -- apparently you can see him pull out a weapon from a backpack, and then he comes right over to that table and shoots at these three young men, and now these are the three that have died. suzanne? >> all right. ted, thank you very much. obviously, we're going to have a lot more on this story later in the afternoon. that court appearance of the suspected gunman as well as more information about those three students who have died from that ohio school shooting. more after this break. they fit! okay-y... okay??? i've been eating progresso
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