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hello, everyone. i'm kyra phillips. 11:00 on the east coast and 8:00 on the west. it is now or never for jerry sandusky. if he plans to take the stand in his own defense today is the day. we are life at the pennsylvania courthouse. months before the election, lawsuits are piling up against a purge of non-citizen voters in florida. polls tell a different story. we are also watching france for you where a gunman who says he's al qaeda is holding people hostage at a bank. so far he let two people go. we will take you live to paris. we are going to start now on capitol hill where the man in charge of enforcing america's laws may himself be facing prosecution. we are talking about eric holder, the u.s. attorney general. he's being threatened with contempt of congress for withholding documents from a government sting operation that went horribly wrong. within the past hour, holder's boss weighed in on the stand-off
and may have big-footed congress. kate bolduan is on the case. we heard it moments ago. the white house asserting executive privilege. >> reporter: it is the latest twist in this ongoing battle that is coming to his -- leading up to this showdown vote, this contempt vote, that the republican chairman of the house oversight committee, congressman darrell issa, has been threatening. he says he had a subpoena for documents relating you of the department of justice relating to this botched gun-running operation known as fast and furious. he wants these documents and the department of justice -- there has been a lot of back and forth, how they will get the documents if they could give over the documents, put all those details aside and the background. today what we are watching right here, you are see thing video of the live hearing going on right now. it is the chairman is moving forward with this vote to hold the attorney general in contempt of congress on this -- would
be -- very big deal that this is happening. and just before they came out is when the chairman of the committee received this letter from the department of justice saying that the president asserting executive privilege over these documents that the chairman of the committee is seeking. listen here to darrell issa. i think we have a sound bite of him explaining they just received this letter. >> i write to -- i write now to inform you that the president has asserted executive privilege over relevant post february 4, 2011 documents. it goes on important several pages. as we speak, as i speak, the committee is evaluating this. we have terrified no communication from the president has arrived before the house. >> reporter: they are still evaluating that behind the scenes of the committee. but as we know right now, the chairman is moving forward with
this contempt vote. at some point this morning, members of the committee are having their say and speaking about what they thought of this process. lot of criticism coming from democrats on the committee. one democrat calling it a witch-hu witch-hunt. we are heard that again and again. what this means right now is we are expecting the vote to happen. where things go from here, that's a big question mark now. it could go to a full house vote. fit goes from there, that would happen, it would then -- we understand and this could change, it would go to the -- basically to the department of justice but it would be unlikely any prosecution would come from that. a very big day here as there has been a lot of back and forth. clearly there are -- they are at standstill in terms of negotiations. it comes down to documents that this committee wants and the department of justice have been negotiating over it. they say they provided enough. both sides are not seeing eye to eye on this. >> you mentioned it is getting quite -- okay. all right. stop the talking in my ear. okay. stay with me.
we have a lot going on, obviously. you mentioned how contentious it is getting among members of the committee. you mentioned darrell issa. also, elijah cummings, the ranking member of the oversight government reform committee, has been very direct this morning on how he feels this has been an absolute failure. and that eric holder is the one to be held responsible. he is now speaking. let's dip in and listen to what cummings is saying. >> if the gentlelady would yield. >> i trust the justice department is hearing my interpretation. if they want to deliver documents, they are welcome to. but again -- >> contempt is voted already then, of course, we have -- ended that possibility. since the justice department is now hearing a difference in between two people at the same meeting, it does seem to me it calls for some opportunity
important the justice department to come forward and resolve that dispute between the two major figures who were in the deliberations. i would ask that that be considered. >> i appreciate the gentlelady. yield. thank you for yielding. >> i would be glad to yield. >> going back to something you said. in the document which was subpoena to the attorney general's office is now part of the record. i want to read the last few words. while we are deeply disappointed intends to move forward in the form of contempt citation i stress the department remains willing to work towards a mutually satisfactory resolution to this matter. do not hesitate to call or contact us. >> i thank the gentleman. >> what purpose does the gentleman from utah seek recognition? >> i move to strike the last word. >> the gentleman is recognize.
>> thank you. the beauty and miracle that's the united states of america is that there is no one person in this country that's above the law. i believe that this committee has a duty, obligation and a right to investigate this matter to its fullest effect. >> it is being investigated. that's for sure. that's why we are talking with it right now as it is happening live on the little. let's bring in joe johns. not only does he cover washington for us, he's also an attorney. i'm going to ask you a number of questions about what is taking place, joe. it is very much inside baseball. the way we have been talking about it at this point. let's put this in perspective for our viewers. the fact that, you know just bogey back to the atf, and how it lost what was a thousand-plus guns, there was also the death of a u.s. border patrol agent and a lot of questions to why this operation was taking place the way it was. now let's fast forward and the man that's being held responsible here is our attorney general. kind of explain to our viewers
what's happening right now on the hill, what that means for our attorney general, and why we need to pay close attention to this at this point. >> well, first let me say that -- i have a law degree and i worked in washington for years with -- lawyers and the judiciary. i don't hold myself out as an attorney. but i think that -- you have to talk about two things going on here right now. first, there is the issue of the -- what's happening to the united states attorney general right now. the question whether he will be cited for contempt and then there's the -- issue of executive privilege. and number one, the -- just because the white house has asserted executive privilege, it creates potential for this thing to be thrown into the court, could be a battle that potentially goes on for years and if there is not aing in officiated solution between the parties. so look for at some date down in the future, even if there is a citation for contempt of the full house, for there to be a
negotiated solution. otherwise lit take too long. i talked to a conservative legal scholar today whose familiarity with executive privilege goes back to the nixon days and -- he says that executive privilege when asserted against congress as opposed to something that was already in the legal system has a very mixed standing because, number one, as we can see, this is a highly politically chargeduation. but as a pure matter of law and i think -- any person who has been to law school can tell you this, the judiciary generally does not uphold a claim of privilege over a congressional demand. now, when has this happened before? house judiciary got in a confront taugs over karl rove, harriet myers, and the firing of states attorneys back in the -- you know, around 2006, 2007 or so. it all went to court. the u.s. district court upheld the power of congress even when
white house personnel are involved and there is not a crime alleged that they upheld the power of the bush -- actually, upheld the power of the congress to go ahead and investigate all of this. and said that there was no grounds for an assertion of executive privilege. >> to put this in perspective, we are talking about documents. we are talking about -- an investigation into a botched mission with the atf. the loss of life with the border patrol agent. the investigation involves documents. they are saying they want to see the documents and want the see details. eric holder said look, i have given you unprecedented access. you have been able to see the doj, department of justice, documents. what's the problem here? >> right. the problem is that congress has a very broad authority to investigate virtually anything that congress wants to investigate. and it doesn't just have to be about wrongdoing.
all congress has to say is look, we want to find out if we need to pass a new law. so -- the supreme court has, again and again and again, upheld at the time right of congress to investigate whatever it wants. but that doesn't mean there can't be a very long -- you know, court battle. so -- they will probably at the end of the day get together at some point and figure out as they did in the karl rove and harriet myers case well -- well, between want your people to come and testify but we won't put them under oath or we will have very narrow questioning or we will demand certain documents that have to be heavily redacted. and -- that's the kind of thing they end up, you know, coming down to. it could take a while. >> now -- >> yeah. >> go ahead. i was just thinking janet reno. it was -- it was the documents related to the campaign finance investigation. same situation. this was the late '90s. right? >> yeah. >> and house speaker gingrich then opted against a floor vote
when the oversight panel held her in contempt for withholding documents relating to the finance, campaign finance investigation. >> right. >> yeah. and i covered that one, too. that was a of fire on capitol hill. people trying to understand what contempt really means. remember, i think kate pointed this out at the end of her live shot, at the end of the day, they hold -- they hold a contempt vote on the house of representatives and then where do they send it to? they send it to the justice department which is controlled by the democrats the president and eric holder. so -- that doesn't really go anywhere right now. you know. on the other hand, that -- you know, there you go. house oversight committee takes majority vote, full house takes a majority vote. u.s. attorney convenes grand jury. penalty could include up to $1 how thousand fine and one year in prison. come on. where is this thing going to go if you are going to send it back to the guy that you just held in contempt? >> and -- just -- final point to button it up here, we are in a
campaign year. you mentioned, you know, republicans wanting to score political points here. this is becoming a bit of a hotter issue considering the timing right now. election year. >> very. a very politically charged situation. you have been talking on capitol hill to democrats and it is very clearly defined. democrats all over the hill don't think there is a -- this thing is worth a hill of beans. they say that republicans have just been trying to score points on this from the very beginning. republicans feel wholeheartedly that they have to get to the bottom of this. affecting our relationship with our allies to the south. the question of just letting guns go walking is, you know, wholly inappropriate. and they think that there -- somewhere at the bottom of this, maybe not relating specifically to the justice department but somewhere at the bought many of this they think there has to be some serious accountability. the two sides are very far
apart. election year and that's what is written all over this case now. >> joe johns putting it in perspective. i'm sorry, i said you were a lawyer, law degree. big difference. you could be a lawyer. okay. that's how smart you are. helping us weed through everything, joe johns. thank you so much. you can watch the hearing as well. streaming on cnn.com right now. the medicare debate continues in washington... ...more talk on social security... ...but washington isn't talking to the american people. [ female announcer ] when it comes to the future of medicare and social security, you've earned the right to know.
and sue saved money on brakes. now that's personal pricing. lye pictures once again to the hill. you are watching live coverage now. you can also go to cnn.com where we are streaming live. president barack obama asserting executive privilege over the documents being sought by the house committee. as you are seeing here, investigating that botched fast and furious gunrunning sting we have been talking about throughout the morning. what does this mean? how far will this go? what's this mean for the -- for eric holder? and the fact that he's being threatened now with contempt of congress for withholding his documents which he says he has given unprecedented access to. our kate bolduan on the hill also listening to the conversation among lawmakers
here. kate, you know, we sort of delved into what's happening just about five minutes ago. where we stand at this point, and now we are getting the back and forth from various members. some getting a little more heated than others. where do we stand? what's your sense where this is going? >> reporter: the sense we have, we have not gotten a real indication -- this gets into the procedural process of capitol hill which we don't need to get into. assumption we have right now is that this committee is still moving towards this vote to hold the t citation to hold the attorney general in contempt of congress. as the chairman of in a committee threatened all along if he did not receiving the documents he says is needed to continue their investigation into the botched operation fast and furious. now you have very well noted kind of the latest twist in a very important twist is that now we hear that the president is asserting executive privilege over those very documents that the chairman of the committee wants.
i want to bring to you one of the -- very -- interesting and very toughly worded statement we -- i received from the spokesman for house speaker john boehner. republican leaders have been very much kind of not involved with this. they did sign on to the letter of -- kind of -- pushing important documents and threatening if they don't get it, the contempt citation. but they have not been involved in this investigation. they have been hands-off leaving this for congressman issa to handle. take a listen to this statement i received in part from the spokesman for house speaker john boehner. he says until now, everyone believes the decision regarding fast and furious was confined to the department of justice. invoking executive privilege, the white house were either involved in the fast and furious operation or the coverup that followed. the administration has always insisted that was not the case. were they lying or are they now bending the law to hide the truth? obviously a lot of strong
accusations here from house speaker john boehner's office. but that's just an example of how this is really all kicked up a notch in terms of the rhetoric and kind of what it is all at play here. this is a very serious situation -- serious process that's going forward in this committee in the middle of an election season and obviously there are a lot of political implications here going on now. outside of the fact that the attorney general could be pretty historic to the attorney general if this would be agreed to by the full house that he would be held in contempt. but very clearly a lot of rhetoric now surrounding this contempt citation. on one thing i think has been lost for our viewers is that we should probably -- just give -- people a little bit of background, documents we are talking about. what the chairman of the committee wants is specifically documents between a time period of february and december of 2011. those dates are important because the department of justice in that february time frame of last year sent information to congress saying that there was no improper --
nothing improper done in terms of the operation. well, ten months later, they need -- they were forced to retract that denial because it became very clear that there were these tactics used in the gunrunning operation and clearly that operation went -- fatally fundamentally flawed. the department of justice, even itself, acknowledged. the chairman of the committee wants documents. he wants to know who what when and who approved the operation and who knew it went awry. why did you give inaccurate information to congress? he's drying to drill down on that. now we know that the department of justice through the president, they are asserting executive privilege over this information. and in the letter sent from the attorney general to the president, he says that these documents were not generated at the course of their investigation and fast and furious. he says that they were created after the investigative tactics
at issue in that operation terminated and this was in the course of the department's deliberative process concerning how to respond to congressional and related media inquiries into this. he says that this is basically -- they are asking for documents about how we do our job and advise you on -- he says that should be under the purview of executive privilege. lot inside baseball but very important what's going on here on capitol hill. >> i think -- you hit it. bottom line, was there a overup? or not? were these incorrect tactics? was it just a bad decision. we can talk with about all the different scenarios. kate bolduan, we will follow following, obviously, what's happening on the hill and keep checking in with you. you can also watch the hearing. it is streaming on cnn.com.
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live pictures from capitol hill. continuing to follow the hearing with regard to the man in charge of enforcing america's laws, he himself, we told throughout the morning may be facing prosecution. we are talking about eric holder, our attorney general. he is being threatened with contempt of congress for withholding documents from that government sting operation that
went horribly wrong. we are talking about fast and furious. a u.s. border patrol agent killed. president invoking executive privilege on the documents. we will let you know what's taking place moment by moment. puck follow the hearing as well on cnn.com. another story we are talking a lot about today is the gunman who says he is a member of al qaeda. he took four people hostage today after a botched bank robbery in france. we are now learning all those hostages have been released. five hours after it began. that hostage situation ended a few minutes ago in toulouse, 360 miles south of paris. police now say that gunman was wounded. and last remaining hostages have been leased. this occurred several hundred yards away where a deadly stand-off with another gunman who claimed to have ties with al qaeda took place in march. it is the same neighborhood. you will remember the man,
mohammed, he was suspected of killing seven people, including jewish school children and a rabbi. clinically dead, not dead but in a coma. off life support but in critical condition. all of those are just some of the conflicting reports now on the condition of former egyptian president hosni mubarak. right now we are closely monitoring all the developments. several sources are telling tuesday 84-year-old, mubarak, came pretty close to death after suffering a heart attack and a stroke. ivan watson is in cairo for us. what's the word you are getting at this point on mubarak's condition? making the point, as you heard, we are continuing to get conflicting information on what really the situation is. >> reporter: it was within the last would hours we spoke to his attorney who has acted like a family spokesman in the wake of any other information coming from egyptian officials or doctors. and he says that mubarak is off of life support after he was
moved from the prison where he is supposed to be serving a life sentence for being found guilty of being an accomplice to the deaths of hundreds of protesters a year and a half ago. since being moved to a military hospital, his condition i has improved somewhat. the attorney took a potshot at the media saying they threw the country into disarray with false reporting about mubarak's death. have to point out that this was egyptian state media that first reported that mubarak was clinically dead. a report that the ruling military council later denied. >> what's the sense that -- from egyptians? i mean, you are there and you have been cover thing story, obviously, for months and months. are they concerned about him? does it not matter to them? are they looking forward to, obviously, a different way of
life? is he even on their minds at this point? >> reporter: i think there's a lot of ambivalence to the point -- ranging from ambivalence all the way down to downright suspicion and sk skeptici skepticism. lot of egyptians we talked to are saying i don't believe anything they say about hosni mubarak's health or any kind of emergency because they feel that this issue has been used almost like crying wolf repeatedly since he wastoppled from power a year and a half ago. >> ivan, thanks so much. former president jimmy carter will weigh in and give us perspective on the turmoil unfolding in egypt. that's at noon eastern right here on cnn. support team usa and show our olympic spirit right in our own backyard. so we combined our citi thankyou points to make it happen. tom chipped in 10,000 points. karen kicked in 20,000. and by pooling more thankyou points from folks all over town, we were able to watch team usa...
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hearing right now. it began just a couple of hours ago. it has become contentious. why? because we are talking about contempt measure against attorney general eric holder. even though president obama, about 45 minutes ago we reported, asserted executive privilege over documents being sought by this panel that's investigates the botched fast and furious raid. you may remember when the atf lost track of a thousand guns it was supposed to be following. would of which were used to kill a u.s. patrol agent. we are listening to all of the members of the committee go back and forth on basically they -- they want to know if anything was covered up here. what exactly went wrong? did eric holder, our attorney general, know what went wrong? what's in these documents? could these documents reveal anything that was covered up surrounding this botched raid? that's what's at issue here. obviously it is a highly
political issue. we are in the middle of a campaign year. so democrats and republicans both jumping on this as we monitor the hearing going on this hour. something else we are talking about. much lighter note. summer. officially starting tonight. i don't think any of us need to be told that. right? all you have to humidity. especially for those i would -- in the northeast, it seems the high temperatures are pretty much here with a vengeance, chad myers. but we, you know, i think you expected that. you have been monitoring the weather conditions now and knowing that we shouldn't be surprised, i guess. >> i love when you can see the air because at least you know it is there. right? >> have you the pictures. >> from the top of our time warner center, looking towards the north, should be able to see all the buildings up there in the bronx. i was talking to our producer. how is it going in new york? it has been very cold. i said watch what you ask for. watch what you ask for. because it is going to come so
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live to capitol hill where we are following the live committee hearing over attorney general eric holder. what's at stake here? well, u.s. attorney general is being threatened with contempt of congress for withholding the documents that surround that botched fast and furious raid where a u.s. border patrol agent was killed with weapons that were being moved back and forth, a mission held under the atf and lost track of those guns. if you listen to what representative darrell issa said, chairman of the oversight government reform committee, it seems to not really jive with what analysts are saying are taking place here. let's listen to issa first. >> i write now to you the president has asserted executive privilege over relevant post february 4th, 2011 documents. it goes on for several pages. as we speak, as i speak, the
committee is evaluating this. we have verified that no communication from the president arrived before the house. >> all right. that's actually the wrong piece of sound. kate bolduan, i'm going to go straight to you on the hill. we are going to stay away from parts of the maerg until we get that all organized. let's backtrack here and put into perspective what exactly is happening on the hill right now. this goes back to a story you and i both, all of us there, had been covering for months about this atf raid that went horribly wrong and there was a loss of life within the u.s. border patrol. now the question is -- what exactly happened? was it bad tactics? was it just a bad idea? and was there a coverup? that's what this committee wants to know, why they want to get their hands on these documents that now the white house saying no, executive privilege, sorry. >> reporter: absolutely right. you laid out exactly the questions the committee said it wants to answer.
they say that this is the power of -- this is the job, one of the jobs, of congress. specifically this committee, house oversight and government reform committee to keep kind of about -- be the check and balance to watch and figure out what went wrong if things go wrong like -- both sides of the aisle, both branches of government acknowledge that this operation went horribly wrong. this was a high-profile political showdown between the republican chairman of the committee, darrell issa, and the president's top law enforcement law enforcement official, attorney general eric holder. really with this latest twist of this executive privilege assertion from coming from the white house, this really kicks it up a notch. threatening, if it isn't already, to become a full-scale battle, not just between these two men, really between two branches of government, electricityive and executive
branches of government. if you listen to a statement i received from house speaker john boehner they are making jong statements here. now the executive privilege has been asserted from the white house. the -- in part, the statement says the white house decision to invoke executive privilege implies the white house officials were involved in the fast and furious operation or the coverup that followed. coverup is a very strong word. also going on to say the administration has always insisted that wasn't the case. were they lying? are they now bending the law to hide the truth? very strong words coming from the spokesman for john boehner. what this comes down to has to do with documents. this botched operation, over sides, agree this was a botched operation. it was allowing for purchases of illegal -- of weapons illegally to track them to mexican drug cartels. the atf lost track of hundreds of those weapons. one of those weapons was found
at the scene of the killing of a u.s. border patrol agent ryan terry. this investigation was kicked off -- has kicked off a lot of questions from a whistle blower with republican senator -- republican senator charles grassley. chairman issa took this up. they have been going back and forth for months trying to figure out who knew what when and it is coming to a head here as the showdown with the contempt vote. talking about documents and want to know how high up this went and who knew what, within the department of justice. we know the white house is saying honestly, these documents you are looking for, off i am limits and off the table. what this means in -- >> let me ask you this. the if the committee votes to hold in him in contempt what then? >> reporter: there are a lot of questions, how this will proceed. my best understanding as of now if this committee votes and majority of members -- it is very likely to be a party line
vote. i'm going to send it back to you. they are telling me to send it back to you. >> okay. sorry about that. we are trying to get our bearings here together. we will keep checking in with you as we are following this live hearing. cnn.com where we are streaming this hearing live. in your car. now count the number of buttons on your tablet. isn't it time the automobile advanced? introducing cue in the all-new cadillac xts. the simplicity of a tablet has come to your car. ♪ the all-new cadillac xts has arrived. and it's bringing the future forward.
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we are still monitoring the house committee, what's happening on capitol hill. as each member of the committee has their say. what are we talking about? eric holder, our u.s. attorney general. what exactly could happen to him. what did he know and not know about that botched gun raid called fast and furious. you will remember that there were a number of questions surrounding that raid with regard to what happened and were, whose decision was it, who knew what, why did the u.s. border patrol have to die in the hands of a government raid. right now they are discussing the issue of eric holder being threatened with contempt of congress for withholding documents from the sting. they want to know exactly the details of that raid that they believe the only way they get to
the answer of this investigation is in those documents. if indeed there was a coverup. very strong words. that's what they are coming out and claiming they want to know. our kate bolduan is on the hill, of course, following this committee and what each member is saying. she will keep us up to date as we follow this. you can go to cnn.com where we are streaming live and follow exactly what's happening. now president obama stepped in and exerting executive privilege saying you can't have those documents. these members on the committee saying they still want to see them. and eric holder is the man now being threatened with contempt of congress for withholding them. florida's not only a battleground state but center of an explosive controversy right now that could impact november's elections. about 100,000 registered voters whose citizenships are in question could be purged from the state's voting polls. the justice department, the american civil liberties union, among others, have already filed lawsuits to stop the purge. but now a number of advocacy
groups are also slapping florida with what could be one of the most extensive lawsuits yet. adrianna has been polling the story for us and joining us live from miami. in a nutshell, supporters say this purge will prevent election fraud. critics say it violates voting rights. >> that's right. good morning. this lawsuit comes from a coalition of voter rights and specifically names as the defendant the secretary of state. some of the groups involved with the florida immigrant coalition, national congress for puerto rican rights. the attorney for the last group, advancement project, told us that in their claim, they highlight that although hispanics represent 14% of registered voters in the state, 67% of those identified as potential non-citizens are
latinos and 87% people of color. the lawsuit comes in addition to the ones filed earlier in the month by the department of justice and the american civil liberties union. but how is this lawsuit different? the groups suing say this lawsuit is more expansive than others because it claims the violation of section 2 of the voting rights act as well as the violation after federal law that prohibits removal of names less than 90 days before an election and as you know, florida has primaries on august 14. they say that the previous lawsuits are are are a discrimination but only as it relates to five counties. instead this one is statewide. >> how are florida officials responding to the lawsuit? >> well, we reached out to the secretary of state and the division of elections. the spokesman told us we have a year-round obligation to ensure the roles are current and accurate. so identifying ineligible votesers not only the right
thing to do but it is our statutory responsibility. making sure an ineligible voter can't neutralize the vote of an eligible voter is a key part of upholding the integrity of florida elections. furthermore, we continue to quote we are not aware of anyon aware of anyone who has been erroneously removed from the voterel ros as a result of the initiative and race and party don't play any roles in the process whatsoever. kyra, florida also filed a lawsuit asking the department of homeland security access to more accurate databases, and so far, they have been using records from department of motor vehicles which is not necessarily the most up to date. >> thank you so much. and one of the attorneys whose group is involved in the latest lawsuit actually spoke with cnn earlier the i da, and she says that the biggest concern is that minorities are being discriminated against. >> florida has made a list of voters who are citizens, and it is saying that they are not noncitizens using bogus
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well, it is another big moment in the child rape trial of jerry sandusky, and we are told that the defense has rested without calling sandusky to the stand. susan candiotti is standing by at the courthouse. what do you know, susan? did we lose? are we able to connect with her, or no? no. okay. we are going to try and get back in touch with susan candiotti and we apologize by that, and by
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this is cnn breaking news. and the breaking news is that the defense has rested and jerry sandusky did not take the t)aáuáp' candiotti, i believe w are connected to you now, and we can hear you loud and clear. tell us what just happened. >> kyra, this is the moment that everyone had been waiting for and will he or won't he, and the the answer is he won't. jerry sandusky is not taking the stand. the defense has rested. and furthermore, we are done for the day. also a stunning announcement, there is going to be no rebuttal case, and closing arguments instead begin tomorrow, so this is moving ahead rapid fire fashion. here is the drama that led up to this. after a few defense witnesses
took the stand this morning, there was a recess. after when everyone came back, nothing happened and the courtroom was empty for waiting for the parties to come back in for 45 minutes. during this time, we saw jerry sandusky's defense attorneys leaving the courtroom going into the conference room with jerry sandusky, and then they came out. then they went back into the judge's area, and then they came back out, and after 45 minutes had passed finally the announcement made in court taking some people by surprise and others not. but, this clearly appears that it will be in the hands of the jury by friday. back to you. >> susan, everybody was paying attention and wanting to see if indeed he was going to take the stand, because as you remember that interview he did with bob costas and what he said was absolutely riveting so he had the choice of over whether he wanted to do this or not. is your sense that his attorneys said no way, do not speak. >> well, the decision is clearly
always up to the defendant. and there were a lot of risks if he took the stand and other people said he had nothing to lose because of the strength of the prosecution's case, and at the end, we will find out why the decision was made as the day goes on. >> thank you, susan candiotti. "newsroom international" starts "newsroom international" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com we will take you around the world in 60 minutes. i'm suzanne malveaux, and here is what is going on. egypt on edge, and the fate of the ousted dictator and the fate of the struggling democracy in question at this hour, and the crowd in tahrir square demanding power back from the military. the entire country is waiting for official word of who won the presidential election. they are also waiting an official statement on mubarak's con dirks and by all accounts the 84-year-old former president is critically ill.
i will talk to former president jimmy carter about the uncertainty and tension around egypt's future. and julian aassange is wantd in sweden for questioning in a sexual assault case, and last week britain's top court appealed his decision to stay in britain, and he is accused of breaking his bail terms. >> and the hostage situation end ing in the last hour as police say that a gunman who claims he is with al qaeda have taken four people hostage and all four were released. shots were fired and the hostage taker was wounded. the location is not far from the scene of a deadly standoff in march when police cornered a man wanted for killing zen peopseve who was killed after a 42-hour
sewage siege. and a mexican cartel leads to a showdown in washington. now president obama and the white house are involved. the oversight committee is considering contempt measure against attorney general eric holder. issa is wanting more information on "fast and furious" about information of the bureau of alcohol and drugs and tobacco lost track of weapons that crossed the border, but then those guns showed up when an agent was killed. kate bolduan is following the hearings on capitol hill. tell us where we are in this process and why is the white house involved? >> very good questions, suzanne. where we are right now, and i think that we have live pictures of ongoing meeting of the house oversight committee. what we are seeing right now is really they are ticking through what appears as if every committee member is taking the
allotted five minutes to say about everything that has been going on. this months of back and forth fighting between this committee and the republican chairman of this committee and the department of justice specifically, attorney general eric holder. this is already a high profile political showdown between the pow erful chairman of this committee and the president's top law enforcement official attorney general eric holder, but with this latest twist of the white house announcing that they are going to insert executive privilege over the documents, at least some of the documents that this committee is seeking really kicks it up a notch. this is from a showdown to full on war between two branches of government. >> why are these documents so important? >> these documents are important, and we don't know specifically what is in the documents, and that is what the committee wants to know. the attorney general last night said these are things like e-mails and internal communications within the department of justice, and what
the attorney -- pardon me, the cha chairman of the committee wants documents from the december to february of 2011, and this date is important because in february the department of justice sent information to congress saying that there was nothing improper that went on with this gun walking operation, botched gun walking operation, and when it came out that there was a lot tht went wrong, ten months later the department of justice had to retract that denial, and so the chairman of the committee, and republicans on the committee want to know who knew what when? is this simply a bad operation or is someone at fault? does someone need to really be in trouble and held to account for what happened here, and of course, as you well noted a u.s. border patrol agent was killed and two guns, weapons were found at the scene of his killing. so this is a very, and this is already a big deal and it is becoming a bigger deal here in washington and outside of washington. because this is two branches of government that are really
butting heads here. >> all right. kate bolduan, thank you so much. appreciate it. back to egypt. egyptians are clamoring to know if hosni mubarak is dead or alive. he is declared clinically dead and on life support and in a coma. and while all of the turmoil over who has won the presidency. all rounds of the election have been monitored, and also there was former president jimmy carter. he is joining us by phone, and you were there to monitor the elections and you put out a statement from the carter center that you are troubled by the turn that egypt has taken and how so? >> well, the supreme council of armed forces has assured me every time they have met with them that they will turn over full political and economic and military power over to the elected officials, and obvious ly
the latest decisions two days before the election and even as people went to vote have been completely contrary to that. but i think that they should back off and keep their promise and let the elected officials in egypt not only constitute the group that will write the constitution, 100 members, but also give the president legitimate power to act as a chief executive of the country. >> in light of the fact that they have not done this, do you believe that this was legitimate presidential election? >> yes, the elections have been okay. we have been there ever since november. we have monitored the parliamentary election and also the presidential election, both the original and then the two-person runoff recently. we will be there throughout the process of inaugurating the new officers and the new constitution, and the carter center will be there when a referendum will be for the egyptian people to approve the
constitution once it is written. i have met with general shafiq, and dr. morsi several times to discuss the future of egypt with them, and the peace treaty between israel and egypt and those very important issues. >> you mentioned the fact that this, in the parliament, the supreme courts dissolved the parliament and this military issued a decree saying they have military power and the military rulers have now given themselves more power than they ever had under president mubarak's regime. do you believe that whoever the president is will have real presidential powers here? >> well, if the international community will rally to support democracy and freedom in egypt, then, yes, the military will have to back down. but it is going to have to be a strong statement made from the united states once the identity of the president is known regardless of who it is that the military must cede power and give up power to the elect ed officials otherwise the entire process is going to be disapproved not only by the
international community, but by the people of egypt and might go back to the demonstrations including violence. i hope that does not happen. it need not happen. >> and how does the international community do that? force the egyptian military to give up power? >> one way is for them to refuse to give, for the financing to the military. but give it with complete control to the elected officials, and that is the parliament and the president as is the case in every instance. we give $1.3 billion to egypt every year and the congress so fars ha approved it, but i notice that senator john kerry and others say that the money will not be given if the military retains control, and it is another dictatorship if this procedure goes forward and i hope it won't. i know for instance, shafiq quite well, and i know dr. morsi quite well, because he was educated in southern california and has a ph.d. in engineering and has two children who are
students in american universities and a dean in engineering at a college, and he is a responsible person and his questions to my probing questions have been satisfactory. >> why are you satisfied by mohamed morsi and this is someone who is a converted islamist as well with the muslim brotherhood, and he has made statements regarding egypt and israel and particularly regarding israelis and calling them vampires and killers at one point? >> well, i don't know what he said in the past, but i know what he says to me. and also to the american ambassador and to other visitors and including congress members from the united states that he will honor the terms of the treaty that i negotiated in 1979 between israel and egypt. he is going to treat all of the people in egypt the same. he was instrumental in writing a wonderful statement that was made by the grand imam, the number one sunni theorist, the
number one sunni muslim theorist who is also the head of a 120-student university in egypt, and they are working now on another statement with morsi's presence, and i know that he is quite familiar with international affairs being educated in the doctoral level in our country. >> so you are confident that someone will be determined the winner here, but there are -- >> we don't know who will win here. the final statement by the election commission won't be made until tomorrow. >> do you think that he would be the person, the kind of operson who would lead in egypt that the united states could and should be working with? >> yes, i certainly do. in fact, i hope that the united states will acknowledge and work with either one of the two candidates who is elected president. and also with the elected parliament.
>> does it concern you at all the instability in the region, because we have just over the last couple of days seen the rockets fired from egypt's northern sinai into southern israel and we are seeing the level of violence increase, and we see the demonstrations that are taking place and people who do not believe that the military is actually going to turn over power to the real leader there, and does it concern you that we are now invested in a place that right now is not stable? >> well, it concerns me very much. that is why we are spending so much time, and me, personally, and the carter center and others in egypt to try to make sure that democracy does prevail, and peace prevails. and i'm very personally interested in the continuation of the application of the peace treaty provisions between israel and egypt. and dr. morsi and obviously general shafiq both have pledged to me that they will honor these terms. >> i want to move on the syria, if we could, and the u.n. now e estimating more than 10,000
people have died in the 50 months since the syrian people's uprising and we know that bashar assad has insisted he is not going anywhere, and what should the obama administration should do? >> well, i don't believe we will get directly involved in any military action in syria. i believe that would be a tragic mistake, but i do think that the united states could work intimately, and give with kofi annan and give him full support. he is working with the iranians and he is working with the russians and he is working with the assad regime and working with the revolutionaries in syria and the united nations, but the support has been given to him from washington has been very uncertain. he's the only ball game in town. so i know kofi anan well, and i stay in touch with him permanently, and i think that we need to work exclusively and with full support for kofi whatever he is trying to do. >> should the united states try to provide weapons to the opposition or funding? >> i don't think so. you know, i think that there are
some entities in the world who are our allies who are giving weapons to the revolutionaries, and saudi arabia may be one, i'm not sure, but the more weapons injected into syria, the more tragic the civil war is going to be. >> and finally president obama met with russian's president vladimire putin a few days ago and there is obvious tension between them, and the president was not able to convince putin to pull his support for bashar al assad and should the united states, do you think that we have leverage when it comes to russia? >> minimal leverage, because we are at odds with russia on several issues and also the iranian nuclear issue. i thought that obama and putin could get together and make some common agreement, but i think that the russians are trying to cooperate fully with kofi annan in syria at least and i hope that the united states will do the same thing and lettko kofi
the negotiator between the two. i think they have fractured or a complicated and diverse support for this only ball game in town as i have used already is a mistake. so i think that is the only thing that we should do in syria right now. >> all right. president jimmy carter, thank you so much for your time and we appreciate your insights. >> it is a pleasure. >> i hope y'all will interview which ever president is elected in egypt and let the facts be promulga promulgated from from your own observation. >> we certainly will, and we will attempt to do that. thank you thank you again. >> good-bye. and here is what we are working on this hour of "newsroom international." and now with the power company in charge is saying that they were not prepared when the earthquake and tsunami hit japan. favorite foods fightin? fight back fast with tums. calcium rich tums goes to work in seconds.
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refugees according to the united nations. so the u.n. is trying to raise awareness by making today, june 20th, world refugee day. some people leave their countries and others are trapped in cities within their own borders. last year michael holmes showed us how thousands of iraqis are stranded in baghdad camps. >> reporter: they are a persistent stain on the new iraq, and a fettered legacy of the war here. squalored camps for those who fled iraq's violence and a haven't gone back home. [ speaking foreign language ] >> translator: i don't sleep at night ever since my husband died, i don't sleep. i wake up at 4:00 a.m. and i pray and keep checking on my children. >> reporter: the lives of those children changed forever in 2004 when masked men came to their neighborhood and started shooting. the family fled and ever since, this has been home. [ speaking foreign language ] >> translator: what do i do?
i'm a widow with children, and i live here. i have no one. >> reporter: this place is home to 1,200 men, women and children, lots of children. living in appalling condition on the grounds of what was a saddam hussein military base on the outskirts of baghdad. >> joining us is michael to talk about this, and it is fascinating. who are these people who are actually at the refugee camp, and can you tell us a little bit about them. >> yes. a lot of them are ordinary folks and they were victims of the sectarian violence in 2006 and also in '07 and essentially, you have people who flee who are displaced by hunger or war or persecution, but in the case, religion persecution, and they were caught up in the sectarian vice that gripped up the country and saw thousands of people die. and sometimes people who were their own neighbors came to their home who are shia or sunni
and said, go or we will kill you and some people were killed in their homes as part of the sectarian violence and lots of people ended up in places like that and still there today. >> and did it make any difference to get out any better or worse when the u.s. military pulled out? it is the same. in a lot of ways it is a little bit more difficult for those people, because without the continuing security that a lot of the u.s. forces created and harder for the ngo groups to do their work. and we saw no evidence of help, and we were there not that long ago, last year. >> we want to give out u.n. figures on the refugees in the last ten years. look at the numbers here. afghanistan remaining the biggest producer of refugees with 2.7 million. of course, as you have seen following iraq, 1.4 million. somalia 1.1 million and sudan 500,000 and the democratic republic of congo, 491,000. and tell us do you even think
that world refugee day makes a difference here? >> well, at the end of the day, maybe. look, i don't know, but what it does do is to creates awareness and we are talking about it and hopefully people out there are listening and aware of just how big this problem is. and the damage that it does, too. you know, take iraq as an example and you have a situation there 1.5 to 2 million iraqis internally displaced and another 1.5 to 2 million who fled the country. those who fled could afford the flee, so there is a brain drain there. and those who are inside are not able to go back which is a social drain, and the damage den to the social fabric and the same thing in somalia to talk about the people who fled the famine, and syria, and you have thousands of refugees on borders in camps in jordan and turkey, and this is going to do a lot of damage to the social fabric and damage economically and it cost a lot of money with 1.7 million refugees from afghanistan in pakistan. >> and anything in covering the
areas specifically, one thing that you think that the international community, and i think that we should know about this? >> well, one thing, and i try to do this when i tell stories in the field, it is about people. this is not about a million idps in iraq, but about people. i will tell you about someone i know personally and her name is zanab and in 200 4 we were involved in a ambush in iraq and i was in a convoy and my translator was killed along with one of our drivers, yaser, shot there by insurgents there in front of our eyes. his sister last month was confirmed as having permanent residency in australia, thank god. so taken from 2004 to now for her and her kids bouncing around looking for somewhere to live. they worked for us so they would have been killed in their own country. so i like these stories to be told in those individuals, they are now safe. >> not about the numbers, but the face. >> it is that lady that you just
saw crying who is still there. >> thank you. the house oversight committee considering a contempt measure against attorney general eric holder. i want to go the joe johns in washington for more on the developing story. joe, clearly, this is quite an extraordinary move that is taking place here. and people are looking at this wonder i wondering if it is politics, if it could turn into some constitutional crisis or go to the supreme court -- what is happening? >> well, what is happening is essenti essentially that the committee as we have been noting here on cnn all day, suzanne, is apparently moving toward a moment where they cite the attorney general of the united states for contempt of congress. that has to be verified, if you will, of a full vote of the house of representatives and you presume they have the votes if they decided to do that, but meanwhile, today, the administration has invoked its ko constitutional, if you will, executive privilege. now, what that means is basically that the white house
saying that there are certain things that individuals in the congress are entitled to have, and this information is not one of those things that the congress is entitled to have. question out there that is sort of going around washington today is why would the white house invokexits executive privilege in a situation like this? and come on, i mean, the suggestion then to a lot of people who are reading between the lines without looking at the documents that have been flying around, the justice department is, hey, did the president of the united states, himself, have something or some type of communication relating to fast and furious they don't want to disclose publicly, so very much raising the stakes with this citation of the executive privilege function, suzanne. >> so, joe, where does this go? i understand they are holding this hearing now, and they have the take a vote and it could go to the full house as well, and takes down the path, if you
will. >> well, right. typically when you get into situations like this, it is going to be negotiated out because nobody wants what you call a constitutional crisis. they will do what they have to do and then everybody gets in a room which is essentially something that eric holder, himself, suggested in testimony in the united states senate that he was willing to sit down to talk to anybody he needed to talk to including the speaker of the house to work something out, and the last time this kind of thing came up is a few years back in the bush administration when karl rove and harriet meyer were called to task about information they had or did not have in relation to attorneys who were fired in the white house. it ended up going to the court, and in the first case the u.s. district court suggested that the president did not have the right to cite executive privilege in that situation. and then everybody on capitol hill and the administration got together and decided, all right, we will negotiate a deal with
rove and myers go ahead to answer some questions, and limited questions, and we are not going to put them under oath or whatever. and it went away. so, the reason why these things tend to go away after a long fight and then some backroom maneuvering is because if you do try to have a court fight, it could go on for years, and virtually all of the individuals who started the fight might be in other places, and the attorney general might have teped down and son o, so it is kind -- and so it is in everybody's interest to talk it through and get it on, suzanne. >> we will see if it develops or goes one step further. thank you, joe. he has been called everything from a hero to a traitor. the saga behind the man of wikileaks. try the number one! [ jack ] yeah, this is pretty good. [ male announcer ] half a day's worth of fiber. fiber one.
of all places? >> well, it is a very good question, suzanne. some are suggesting it is because there is something of a personal friendship that has been developing between assange and ecuador's left wing populist, and also the anti-u.s. president. last month he was a guest on assan assange's talk show. and assange's mother saying it is simpler than that, because it is that assange does not trust the swedish justice system. listen to what she said, suzanne. >> concern is of course given the flagrant abus of the human and legal rights in the swedish case for two years, their refusal to adhere to their own police procedures and their own prosecutorial standards that were he to go to sweden where he
would be jailed straight away and charged nonquestioned, he would not have the opportunity then to seek political asylum. >> reporter: she also did not have flattering words for the british author is who she claims as well as swedish authorities for aiding and abetting the u.s. >> what happens next? do they have to go through a prosecutorial system? >> well, they cannot step into the embassy to arrest him. right here behind me for all legal purposes is sovereign ecuador iian sovereignty. so this is coming into a complete mess. they would not tell us what the ambassador discussed, but we can
know it is a fraught interview. >> thank you, nima. i want to put the story in per specktive and go to hala gorani. and nima says a big mess over there political and legal as well. it is a complicated case that started obviously when his website wikileaks published leaked cables and embarrassed several governments, and how do we go from there to this point? >> well, we got to this point after he essentially exhausted almost all of the legal options in the united kingdom and a court ruled in the uk within two weeks he could be extradited to sweden to face charges of sexual misconduct, and he has not been charged with anything officially and his concern and the concern of wikileaks is that this is all essentially politically motivated and it had nothing to do with any legal case in sweden, and that this is because he has irked the western powers by releasing the 250,000 cables that have certainly embarrassed
many of the united states and also in other country, and he says that the u.s. and his website says that the u.s. will just find a way around laws in sweden that prevent people from being extradited for political offenses such as the one that he says he is being accused of by western countries, suzanne. >> hala, how does the public perception play into this. some people think he is a hero. and some believe he is traitor? >> yes. many people as well after the release of the cables who were initially supportive of the effort are now saying, look, this guy is position himself politically, and sometimes expressing sympathies with people who support the regime of bashar al assad for instance, and even people who did want him to release the cables. and some people are seeing him as a hero, and it is important to underline that, but a it is someone who has expose d the
hypocrisy of western countries according to them by releasing the cables and the infor ma i r that was to be top secret and now we can all read online. and another thing is that he is making a name for himself by becoming buddy-buddy with leaders of nations that are very anti-washington. he interviewed the leader of hezbollah as well, and he is positioning himself politically quite clearly. >> thank you, hala. a major announcement from the fed is expected any moment and could ripple through the global economy and we will have that for you as soon as we have it. a new future for your skin. only aveeno positively radiant has total soy, for a whole new level of radiance. it's clinically proven to visibly reduce blotchiness, brown spots, and other past damage, while broad spectrum spf 30 helps prevent future damage. healthier, more radiant skin. it's in your future now. [ female announcer ] positively radiant. and for brighter skin,
in two weeks. this is a program where they shift things around so that the long-term interest rates remain low. we have talked about many times about how the cost of borrowing money for ten years for the government is about 1.67% right now. that encourages overall rates to be lower so that the fed worried that an increase in rates would slow down the u.s. economy which they say is already slowing a little bit, they have decided to extend the program until the end of the year. you may hear it referred to as operation twist. t this is the thing they were expected to do, but as you can see are the the market reaction, it is not making investors all that happy. i am not sure they were waiting to hear from something more robust from the fed and they would think of intervening in in the economy by putting money in, and something that we have called qe3 or quantitative easing and that is not likely to happen, but a real sense that the u.s. economy has slowed down in the last couple of months and still growing, but growing at a slower pace, and that the fed is the best chance to make something happen. they have put off the decision
right now and doesn't mean they cannot make it later, but now the fed has made a decision to have impact on mortgage rates or other loan rates. a lot of the rates in the united states are set on the 10-year bond and they are making a decision that will keep the interest rates on the 10-year bond relatively low. that is what the decision is, the fed is extending something called operation twist, not a great reaction on the markets rights now, and i would not call it a bad reaction as the markets have been down all morning and down more now, but still early and everybody is digesting this and thinking about what it means, but for the moment, it is the least that was expected of the fed to do in their attempt to shore up the u.s. economy. >> all in an effort to stimulate the u.s. e kconomy. thank you, ali. all hell broke loose at a nuclear power plant in japan, and now a group finally admitting that they were not prepared when the earthquake hit and the water rushed in.
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the radical new macbook pro with retina display. ♪ innovation...in every dimension. ♪ welcome back the "newsroom international" where we take you around the world in 60 minutes. many american kids born and raised here forced out of the country they know. their parents are illegal immigration who are deported back to their native countries. 1.4 million mexicans moved back to mexico between 2005 and 2010 according the a new york times
census analysis. they brought with them 300,000 american-born children. fernando from cnn espanol is with us here to explain it to us. is this a relatively new phenomena or going on for a long time? >> no, it is not. hi, suzanne. >> hi. >> it is not new, and it has been happening for a long time, but since during the obama administration, the deportations have increased in number. it is now that they aare feelin it more harder in terms of the education and the small town, because these kids don't come back to the big cities like mexico city or maybe monterrey, but they are coming back to the small towns. so you have to think about this as a situation where they have no access to the same education first of all. >> right. >> like they have here in the united states. they don't even have cafeterias sometimes in the schools.
no computers, and they don't feel mexicans. this is a complicated situation for them, because at the same time they are not accepted as mexicans for the other kids. they think they are u.s. citizens. >> explain to us this, because you see what the kids are going through and it must be traumatic when you talk about the language difference and the cultural difference differences and the differences in identity, and what are these kids going through? >> well, imagine that they call some of them lecce which means milk, because it relate s s to american citizens. so they want, and they are willing to come back to the united states. they feel like they are just passing by, passing through m mexico not staying there. they actually don't want to stay there. >> what happens when they come back? because you bring up a really good point, they actually come back to the united states, are they well adjusted?
do they have problems? >> no. actually, they are not well adjusted. it is to understand it, i will try to just think the other way around, and think about being born and raised in mexico and then feeling a mexican, and then come to the united states out of the blue, and then start trying to understand what is going on here, and with the culture, with the education, and also the family structure is different the way they live in mexico is not the same way they live over here, and not just talking about the access to big houses or nice places, but there's a lot of communications, roads, and a lot of things they don't have over there, and when you talk about small town, it is more often their parents are people that didn't have money and that is what they came over here to get.
>> and it is an interesting story, because of the cultural divide and the shift here. they have got to really live in two different worlds. we will talk more about this, and bring you back on. >> and they don't want to come back, so it might be a problem for the u.s. in the near future. >> thank you very much. good to is you here. >> thank you so much, suzanne. it is to be a global summit to save the environment, so why are not some of the big names showing up in rio? when did it suddenly become unhip to go green? and a choice.ns with n take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. good eye.
beautiful place to talk about how to build a sustainable future. that is what environmentalists and ceos and environmentalists and academics will do over the next three days. this is plus-120, the biggest conference e hailed at reducing poverty and increasing the planet's natural resources with notable no-shows. more than 100 heads of states are participating in the talks. and what is more significant who is did not come, america's barack obama, and britain's david cameron and germany's angela merkel. maybe it was overshadowed because of the g-20 talks, and the meetings in the united states. many leaders say they have been forced to put the environmental
in the back burner. >> they have to manage many crisis situations, and they are basically in a crisis mode. >> reporter: 20 years ago, rio hosted the landmark effort summit with real commits to tackle climate change. for many rio plus 20 has already failed. after days of acrimonious negotiations, they eliminated financial commitments and other contentious issues. >> if the end game friday night is what we have on the table today the result is more poverty, more conflict and more environmental destruction. >> reporter: on rios's scenic beaches the indigenous tribes formed a banner to have a greener future. the chief told us that the summit is an important opportunity for his people to be heard. but critics say it risks going down in history as rio minus 20. the best measure of success will be what actions if any governments take to ensure a
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>> take out the trash in mexico city these days has a whole new meaning. here is rafael romo. >> reporter: when it comes to garbage, mexico city has got most cities beat. with a population of more than 20 million people, this metropolis produces nearly 13,000 metric tons of trash a day. enough to create one of the largest landfills in the world. it is a distinction that the city would like to change and one way to get rid of trash is through recycling. this is a barter market, and once a month, hundreds of people come to one of the city's parks with as much trash as they can