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♪ with a matching red beret >> a fitting tribute from justin timberlake. that is all from "early start" i'm john berman. >> and i'm zoraida sambolin. >> "starting point" with soledad o'brien starts right now. welcome. our "starting point" this morning preparing for the papal conclave. today 115 cardinals will take their oath of secrecy, and tomorrow they'll be locked behind closed doors beginning the process of selecting a new pope. some details about this historical moment coming to you live from rome. then heartache in a small town. six teenagers killed when the suv they were riding in flips over a guard rail and crashes into a pond. this morning, the investigation to find out how this tragedy happened. growing outrage over the tsa's new policy allowing small knives on planes. one lawmaker is joining the chorus to reverse the regulations.
does congress need to get involved? and the dow has been on a roll setting a new record high day after day. will today be another good day for your 401)? >> plus one of the most powerful women in america with a new book that's touching a national nerve. we'll tell you with facebook coo sheryl sandberg says the woman's movement has stalled. it's monday, march 11th. and "starting point" begins right now. welcome everybody. let's begin with a pivotal decision that's going to decide the direction and future of the catholic church and the distinct possibility that we could know as early as tomorrow afternoon just who will be the person guiding the church's 1.2 billion members. the 115 cardinal electors in the conclave will place their first vote tomorrow afternoon. yesterday it was a fascinating specific taggle as the cardinals fanned out across rome. each of them assigned to speech at a designated church. lots of buzz surrounding two
u.s. cardinals who potentially could become the first american pope, cardinal timothy dolan, the archbishop of new york. and cardinal sean o'malley, boston's archbishop. miguel marquez is outside vatican city with more on the contenders. good morning. >> good morning, soledad -- >> we're having -- miguel i'm going to stop you there. we're having some trouble with your signal. we're going to try to fix that for you. miguel has a report for us on what's happening and some of the preparations in vatican city. let's go to that first. >> crunch time at the vatican. the chimney. the chimney that will announce to the world whether there's a new pope is placed atop the treasured 500-year-old sistine chapel. it is delicate work upholding a tradition where white smoke billowing from the chimney signals a new pope has been named. >> the last thing they want is for the sistine chapel to turn into a smoke-filled room. >> reporter: it is where michelangelo applied his hand, a
specialized stove goes along with the chimney. it does take time for the smoke to go from gray to either white or black. >> one of the bits of drama about a conclave is that the catholic church normally is a highly scripted, imminently predictable enterprise. you know exactly what is going to happen and you know when it's going to happen. but with a conclave in a sense, all bets are off. >> reporter: the conclave, their decision shrouded in secrecy and tradition. and some modern twists. electronic jamming equipment ensures no one inside or outside the conclave knows the result before it's ready to be announced. >> i'm ready to go home. i ran out of socks. >> reporter: the front-runners, out in force in rome. there's cardinal scherer from sao paulo, brazil. could he be the first pope from the new world? one of the front-runners, cardinal angela scola of milan, italy, said mass at rome's
church of the 12 apostles. and there's one of the dark horse candidates, boston's sean o'malley. could he be the first american pope? >> let us pray that the holy spirit illumen the church to use a new pope who will confirm us in our faith, and make more visible the love that we cherish. >> reporter: the public politicking nearly over. once the conclave starts the cardinals go into deep seclusion until a decision is made. and now what you're looking at are those burgundy curtains, and that balcony. that is where the pope, once he is named by the conclave, will meet the tens of thousands of people here at the basilica. and millions of people around the world. 1.3 billion catholics waiting for this decision to be made. the bell that will ring, just so i can orient you here. sistine chapel over there. the bell that will ring, that will indicate the new pope is right there. the column with the smoke coming out of the sistine chapel, is it black, is it white, is it gray?
nobody can ever tell. that bell will be the real arbiter. as i was telling you on the way in, cardinal dolan was actually kissing babies this weekend. that's what a -- how political this thing has gotten. all of that stops tomorrow. they go into seclusion. the first time smoke will come out of the chimney is tomorrow around 2:00 p.m. eastern. white, black, we'll have to wait. >> we'll wait for the bell. miguel marquez this morning. thanks. such a beautiful scene behind you. i imagine as the day continues into tomorrow we're going to see more people en masse behind you as they wait to see what the cardinals decide. miguel marquez for us in rome. new information this morning about a car crash that killed six teenagers. police in ohio are now saying the driver of the suv honda passport was speeding. the driver and five passengers were killed. the victims in this crash range from age 14 to age 19. cnn's shannon travis is following developments in this story for us this morning. >> good morning, soledad. such a tragic story in ohio.
this suv that these teens were traveling in was only supposed to seat five people. but as you mentioned, eight people were actually traveling inside. it's unclear exactly who was wearing a seat belt. police say that some people weren't. also unclear, where these teenagers were coming from and going to. just part of the many questions investigators will ponder as they look into this horrific scene. this is what's left of the honda passport after one of the deadliest wrecks in recent memory in northeastern ohio. it happened around 6:50 sunday morning. eight teenagers packed into the suv. >> the vehicle was traveling southbound at a high rate of speed. >> reporter: it went off the road, hit a guard rail, overturned and landed in a pond, partly submerged. >> two of the occupants were able to escape from the vehicle, and subsequently ran to a nearby residence where they called 911. >> reporter: the other six of those teens were killed. they ranged in age from 14 to 19. five were found in the suv. another, underneath in the
water. the driver, 19-year-old alexis cayson. >> she's in my mind so many days and i kept seeing people walk around, i thought it was her and it wasn't each time. >> i just had to walk, you know, walk and identify her body, and it was her. >> reporter: many of the victims' families and friends went to the scene. >> i knew alexis. that was my friend. and she's gone. >> want to know how -- >> reporter: even though it was sunday some friends went to their schools to find solace and comfort. >> it was heartbreaking to see the students walking in and just reaching out to some of their teachers. >> reporter: grief counselors will be at the schools today. >> it's going to be a rough week. it's going to be a rough rest of the school year. >> you never know what can happen. tomorrow is not promised to anybody.
>> soledad, officials are awaiting the results of toxicology tests. but police say they haven't found any sign of drugs or alcohol. soledad? >> shannon travis for us. what a terrible story. thank you for the update. john berman's got a look at some of the other stories. >> new this morning, the north korean army declaring that the armistice agreement that ended the korean war in 1953 is now invalid. the announcement follows the start of joint military exercises this morning between the u.s. and south korea. north korea calls those an open declaration of war and also threatening a nuclear attack against the united states. new developments this morning in india in a rape and murder case that really shocked the nation and the world. police in new delhi say that one of the suspects charged in the crime has committed suicide in custody, hanging himself. the parents of that suspect ram singh claim their son was murdered. singh was one of the men accused in the gang rape and murder of a young woman aboard a bus back in
december. the brutality shocked the indian nation and led to calls for new laws to protect women against sexual assault. defense secretary chuck hagel on his way home this morning after a tension filled visit to afghanistan. he met with hamid karzai after the afghan president accused the u.s. of collaborating with the taliban. >> we did discuss those comments. i told the president that it was not true, the fact is, any prospect for peace or political settlements, that has to be led by the afghans. >> during hagel's first morning in kabul two suicide bombings killed at least 19 people, including a u.s. contractor. a spokesman for the taliban said one of the blasts near the afghan defense ministry was intended as a message to haigle. '70s sitcom star valley harper speeging out publicly
since being nosed with a rare form of terminal cancer. the actress remains hopeful and strong. this is what she said on an episode of the doctors on cbs. >> it's also incurable. so far. that's the word i'm looking at, so far. because they're doing research as we speak. and so, i just thought that, while i'm still able, because it is brain, to speak, and show you that i'm cooking my husband's dinner. i'm walking at santa monica. and more than anything i'm living in the moment. >> you can hear more from valerie harper later this week on "piers morgan live" here on cnn. >> she looks amazing. so interesting to have her being a spokesperson for something. i think she's right people think automatically -- >> it's a very rare and difficult kind of cancer she has. >> good luck to her. >> in sheryl sandberg's goal was to touch a nerve with her new book called "lean in." she's succeeding. she examines why there are so
few women who make it to the top in corporate america. the problem, she says, could be with the women themselves. here's cnn's national correspondent susan candiotti. >> reporter: sheryl sandberg wants women to succeed. and says it's alarming how far they haven't come. >> the very blunt truth is that men still run the world. >> reporter: in her first televised interview to debut her new book "lean in" sandberg tells "60 minutes" that leadership roles for women are alarmingly small. only 21 female ceos in the fortune 500. >> this is deeply personal for me. i want every little girl who someone says they're bossy to be told, instead, you have leadership skills. >> reporter: sandberg lays a good deal of the responsibility on women themselves. facebook's 43-year-old chief operating officer says women too often don't compete for promotions, because they're worrying too early about the future. >> they start leaning back. they say oh, i'm busy.
i want to have a child one day. i could possibly, you know, take on any more. or i'm still learning on my current job. i've never had a man say that stuff to me. >> reporter: though she also blames discrimination at work and a lack of affordable child care, her views have made her a lightning rod. >> instead of saying that doesn't work for women, and it won't work, and let's change the system, she's kind of going backwards and saying, let's change you. instead. that's probably where most of the anger is coming from. >> reporter: but sandberg isn't apologetic. >> i'm not trying to say that everything i can do everyone can do. but i do believe that these messages are completely universal. the things that hold women back hold women back from sitting at the board room table, and they hold women back from speaking up at the pta meeting. >> reporter: sandberg, a mother of two, also says leading at work requires men to share the workload at home. >> there's an awful lot we don't control.
i am saying that there's an awful lot we can control, and we can do for ourselves, to sit at more tables. raise more hands. >> reporter: challenging women to lean in and listen. susan candiotti, cnn, new york. >> want to get right to our team this morning to talk about this and much more. the founder of hollywoodlife.com. belinda is the editor at large for "time" magazine. she got that first interview with sandberg about her book. and ryan lizza is a washington correspondent for the new yorker. nice to have you all with us. you got a chance to spend a lot of time with her. you heard a little bit of the debate, right? is it internal that women need to do more for themselves? or is it external that women, you know, that there are things happening in the culture that need to change? that it's not women changing? >> i think what sheryl would say, rather maddeningly, is that it's both. both we need to change the culture, it's definitely ens tugsal things that need to be changed. but what we have not emphasized
is what are the internal barriers that women face? what do they believe about themselves? which does not help them put themselves forward. and that's what she wants to sort of drill down on. >> you guys have been surprised that she's been such a lightning -- your book is really a great read. i thought it was interesting and entertaining and -- >> unusually funny. >> sort of everything you're looking for in an author. i was surprised, at the degree -- oh, my god, look at your notes. will you look at this? these are the notes. clearly -- that's what i -- i mean she's become a lightning rod. people are reading her book with little stick 'ems highlighting every little thing. are you surprised she's become a lightning rod? >> i'm not surprised at all. because women are lightning rods, especially women who are powerful. she's also very wealthy, as well as being successful. and because she's being outspoken on this issue. and yes, i've got lots of stickies on here because i thought it was full of great advice for my audience at hollywoodlife.com, which are young women.
and also for my two daughters. and i think she does address the external factors in business, in government, which are holding women back. however, she believes that if more women can attain positions of leadership in both business and government, then they can open -- they can help open the doors to other women. and, yes, there are things that women do themselves that hold them back. i see that as an employer myself. and in myself. >> we'll talk a little bit more about that later this morning. >> john berman and i -- >> i was going to say. >> we did not lean in. >> it will be the first time ever -- i'm just kidding. what do you want to add? >> no, no, no. i'm very serious. >> we've got a lot of time to talk about that this morning. i'll sit down with sheryl on wednesday. we're going to bring that interview to you next week. starting today, cnn's taking an in-depth look at the challenges women face at home and on the job. "what women want: work and family" all day today on cnn.
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airlines, employee unions all demanding that the tsa reconsider the ruling. they say it's a safety threat to relax guidelines are scheduled to take effect in six weeks. want to get right to cnn national correspondent rene marsh live at reagan national airport in arlington, virginia. good morning. >> good morning, soledad. you know, according to this new policy you would be able to sail through security lines like these with one of these, and because of that, a battle is brewing. some lawmakers really turning up the heat on the tsa saying not only does this new policy scare passengers, but it also endangers the flight crew. in a few weeks, knives like these may be allowed through airport security if a new tsa policy goes into effect. but some lawmakers are vowing to fight it. >> today i am asking the tsa to rescind that ruling and say small knives, any knives, are not allowed on planes. >> reporter: new york senator chuck schumer joins unions
representing pilots, flight attendants and federal air marshals in publicly opposing the plan. delta airlines' ceo also expressed his objection in a letter sent to the agency. saying the change will, quote, add little value to the customer security process flow in relation to the additional risk for our cabin staff and customers." under the tsa's new policy, knives with blades shorter than 2.36 inches, and less than a half an inch wide, will be allowed, provided the blade does not lock in place. larger knives, razor blades, and box cutters, are still banned. tsa administrator john pistol says the change will allow screeners to focus on things that could bring down an aircraft, like bombs. >> the key factor for me is that that may detract us, may, detract us from that item that could be catastrophic failure to an aircraft. >> reporter: the chairman of the
house homeland security committee says tsa's highest priorities must be securing commercial aviation from the type of threats and weapons that could bring down an aircraft. but schumer says a knife does pose that risk, and given everything already banned, keeping them off planes only makes sense. >> does anyone think this, which you're not allowed to bring on a plane, bottle of shampoo, is more dangerous than this, a sharp, and deadly knife? >> all right. well you know what? the tsa says that that knife that schumer was holding up actually would not be allowed on board under this new policy. because it has a razor blade edge like this box cutter. and also because the blade does not retract like this pocket knife. still schumer is saying if they don't repeal this new policy he may propose legislation to overturn it. >> thanks, rene. coming up in the next hour we're going to talk with sara nelson,
vice president of the association of flight attendants international. and a flight attendant for united airlines. she thinks the rules should be reversed, as well. ahead this morning, how much does it cost to say i do? a whole heck of a lot i'm guessing. we'll tell you what brides and grooms are spending on their weddings. or at least what they're moms are and their dads are. is it a sign the economy is getting back on track? that's up next. [ female announcer ] from more efficient payments. ♪ to more efficient pick-ups. ♪ wireless is limitless. [ female announcer ] from tracking the bus. ♪ to tracking field conditions. ♪ wireless is limitless.
group. another so-called green on blue attack. we're following the story for you. we're going to bring more information to you as it becomes available as we watch the story. want to start this morning with zain asher filling in for christine today. she's got a look at some of the business news we're focusing on. >> hi, soledad. minding your business this morning, stocks set to pull back from record highs this morning. the dow hit an all-time high four days last week. no major economic news today, there's little to guide trading so investors are taking some profit. but here's a possible economic indicator for you. wedding spending. yep, it went up last year as the economy recovered. the knot.com said the average wedding costs about $28,000 last year. couples spending more on just about everything. the photographer, deejay, flowers, invitations, per guest couples spend $204 a head. a lot of money. >> wow. >> i just think that is a recipe for disaster. because you're putting so much freight on the wedding, when the marriage turns out to be
anything less than fantastic -- >> worth less than 25k. >> how many young couples could use $30,000 a year or two into their marriage? >> i think this is a terrific indicator that people have more confidence in the economy. now the next indicator is are they going to start having babies? because the birth rate has dipped to dramatic lows. >> i also think what's interesting is that during recessions people don't actually stop having weddings. you know, they still have weddings. the question is what do they spend on the little extras? on the wedding band, on tablecloths, that kind of thing. >> mom makes the food, you cut the flowers out of someone's garden. save a couple grand. they said new york spends the most, manhattan, $77,000 on a wedding. >> that's just crazy. alaska the most frugal, just over $15,000. >> the economy is coming back. the only thing dragging it down is washington. sequestration and the payroll tax increase.
>> we're going to talk more about that. >> i know, exactly. >> get right at the to-do list. >> in my experience, if you can work sequestration into any conversation, you get everyone going. >> it's a buzzkill. >> the question is -- >> look at your wedding toast, if you can. >> it's becoming -- >> against family values for me if it's going to put a damper on weddings. congressman paul, ryan, in fact, is introducing a budget this week calling for obama care to be repealed, historically, of course, that's pretty unlikely. so is the plan just waisting the time in washington, d.c. or what? we're going to talk to utah congressman jason chaffetz joining us next. then this nasty thing comes running across the field in a soccer match. looks like he bites the guy. ow. we'll tell you what happened to whatever that -- it looks like a weasel, doesn't it? >> ow. >> it does bite him. ow. nasty. anyway we'll tell you what happened there. [ lorenzo ] i'm lorenzo.
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welcome back, everybody, you're watching "starting point." john berman has an update on the day's top stories. >> this just in to cnn, britain's queen elizabeth has canceled an appearance today as she recovers from an illness. she is no longer attending the commonwealth day observance of westminster abbey. she will, we are told, attend a reception for the celebration tonight. the 84-year-old monarch was hospitalized last week for symptoms 6 gastroenteritis. a moment of silence today in tokyo as the japanese government marked two years since the earthquake and tsunami that devastated parts of that country and created a nuclear catastrophe. more than 15,000 people died in the disaster. the subsequent meltdown of the fukushima nuclear plant forced more than 150,000 people from their homes. sunday thousands took to the streets in tokyo, protesting the country's nuclear power programs. the california cat sanctuary where a lion killed a worker has reopened and it did so with the permission from the victim's
mother. diana hampton's mother issued a statement that said, in part, i am living every mother's worst nightmare in losing a cherished child. i am pleased that cat haven is reopening today and share in their sorrow in the loss of couscous. it is my desire that they continue their mission in support of saving my daughter's beloved creatures. couscous the lion escaped and pounced on hanson when she was cleaning an enclosure last week. jeb bush seems to have had his fill of speculation about whether he will run for president in 2016. check out his response to a question on nbc's "meet the press" about how he stacks up against another presumed white house hopeful. >> who's the hottest florida politician right now, is it you, or marco rubio? who are we more likely to see in the white house? >> man you guys are crack addicts. you really are obsessed with all this politics. marco rubio is a great guy. okay heroin addict. is that better?
>> he was really shocked he was asked that question. jeb bush says he's proud of the work marco rubio has done as senator. he also believes history will be kind to his brother george w. bush and his presidency. >> is it too early for these conversations? >> no, of course. >> they're just conversations. >> oh, please but already like how do you stack up against someone else. we have many years -- >> i think it's -- >> if we come out we just barely woke up from the last election. but he is doing an awful lot of media, for -- >> thank you. >> and how can he say that we're obsessed with politics? wait a second, this guy lives politics. >> i'm doing my book tour. >> he's one of the -- >> i dare you ask me whens when i come here to answer questions. a good partnership could be good for head injuries in the nfl. our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen joins us now. what can we expect to hear on this today? >> we're expecting to hear about
this really interesting and pretty innovative deal between the nfl, and ge. so it's a 50 million dollar deal and much of that money, john, is going to go towards trying to find better imaging systems for concussions, and even worse, for encephalopathy where people become aggressive and depressed and even try to commit suicide. it's very hard to see these kinds of injuries on imaging. so that's where a big chunk of the money is going to go. now the nfl is doing this after some very bad pr and a big lawsuit from players and their families. >> i'm a giant fan. one of the things they've been talking about is helmet technology. is that something that will be discussed? >> that's right. a big chunk of this money is going to go to developing better helmets. ge is putting it out there. they're saying whoever wants to give us an idea, we're going to give prizes, money to the five best ideas. better helmets. but the issue is, how do you get a helmet that not only prevents this kind of injury to the skull, but then the brain sort of bashes against the skull
inside the skull, it will be tough to find a helmet that will try to prevent that. >> dangerous, dangerous sport. the nfl seems to be taking it very seriously. thanks. >> thanks. >> well, all eyes are on washington, d.c. now. politicians on both sides of the aisle are looking pretty desperately to get a deal on the budget since it's washington, d.c. not going to happen very fast, at least. the president's going to head to capitol hill this week to meet with republicans as congressman paul ryan introduces a budget that would require obama care to be fully repealed. washington insiders like tom coburn say it is just pretty much a hot mess. listen. >> washington's dysfunctional but it's dysfunctional in a dysfunctional way. members of congress and the administration agree on too much. we agree on spending money we don't have. we agree on not oversighting the programs that should be oversight. we agree on continuing to spend money on programs that don't work or are ineffective. basically we agree on too much. >> congressman jason chaffetz is
a republican from utah. nice to have you with us. he was just saying that washington is dysfunctional in a dysfunctional dysfunctional kind of way and then went on all the ways the only things that you all do agree on is spending money we don't have and all the dysfunctional things that are happening in d.c. i'm going to assume that you agree with tom coburn? >> yeah, and one of the fundamental things we're supposed to do is a budget. now, in the last two years, when we've had speaker boehner we've actually done a budget. what is frustrating the united states senate, it's been more than 1400 days since the senate has actually passed a budget. and the challenge for the president is, in the four years that he was president, he introduced a budget, there's not a single person in the house or senate, republican or democrat, who has ever voted in favor of the president's budget. he was supposed to introduce a budget on february 4th. he didn't. he said he'd do it in march. now he says he'll do it in april. >> congressman ryan has a budget, and it's a budget that would, i guess, close the gap within ten years. the first original one was 30
years. now we're looking at ten years. part of that deal, though, would be repealing obama care. >> well, that's what we believe should be -- is the way to get to the path that you need to. one of the fundamental questions, i think the first question we have to ask is, should we actually achieve a balanced budget? because in order to pay down the debt you actually have to balance the budget first. so can we agree? do you or do you not want to balance the budget? the president has never introduced the budget that ever balances. >> but isn't a better question is, no one is going to agree to repeal obama care. here's an interview that congressman ryan did with chris wallace on fox. let's play that. >> are you saying that as part of your budget you would repeal, you assume, the repeal of obama care? >> yes. >> well, that's not going to happen. >> well, we believe it should. that's the point. this is what budgeting is all about, chris. it's about making tough choices to fix our country's problems. >> so he says, i believe it should. chris wallace said that's not
going to happen, and i think 9d out of 100 people in the know would answer hat question the same way. it's not going to happen. so to some degree isn't it a waste of time to be negotiating something in a budget that is not going to happen? you're not going to be able to repeal obama care unless a bunch of democrats agree with you, which they're not? >> this is why it's important that the house pass a budget, the senate's supposed to pass a budget. the president's supposed to way in and get to reconciliation to work out these problems. question one for me is are we or are we not going to balance our budget? paul ryan is suggesting, the budget committee's suggesting what's going to come before the house before the end of the month is yes, if you want to balance the budget within ten years you've got to take care of the health care expense. and the problem with obama care is it's making its more expensive -- >> but there's no way to get rid of obama care. you heard in the interview with chris wallace. it's not going to happen. so isn't it taking a conversation that's here and further derailing it? which i think is a big source of frustration for americans in general, right? a sense of like you're negotiating something that is
unrealistic? >> if the democrats disagree then they have a duty to put forward a budget and show us, show the rest of the country, how they expect to do it. so remember, when we were -- i was on the budget committee last year. we had a budget that balanced but it took like 28 years to get to that point. if we're going to do it in spend years because the spending is so out of control this is one of the tools and mechanisms you would put in place to achieve that balance. >> i feel like you're going in circles on this. >> i think it's fine as a statement of priorities for republicans to say we disagree with obama care and our budget repeals it. i think that's reasonable. did you vote against the fiscal cliff deal? >> yeah, i did. >> is this budget going to assume the $600 billion in new revenues in that fiscal cliff deal? >> we haven't gotten to the final product. paul has not yet released it. it potentially will. >> it potentially would? >> well i want to look at it, in totality. when you do a budget, i'm not trying to punt, i'm trying to say you have to look at all of the things -- i was a kicker in college.
but look, at the end of the day you've got to put numbers on a piece of paper and achieve balance. so i think there's a mix there -- >> speaking to america's frustration, republicans voted overwhelmingly against a deal that raised $600 billion in revenue, and now it sounds like they're going to put out a budget that pockets that $600 billion and put that up for a vote. so i think that paradox is -- is a little difficult to understand. >> we have won some things and lost a lot of things. >> you are conceding that fight. conceding the fight on those higher taxes and saying, we lost that battle, and we're going -- >> what we've always said is we want to broaden the base, lower the rate. i do believe that there is common ground -- >> but this will still increase the rates. >> i do believe that there is common ground in getting rid of a lot of these loopholes, i really do. but we want to broaden the base and lower the rate. we fundamentally don't believe we're just one good tax increase away from prosperity in this country. and we've already had -- >> -- obama won that fight on the higher taxes?
>> we've lost a number of fights. >> a little bit of punting there, too. >> we have. but i want to get to the point, and i think the fundamental question for the democrats was, i have for chuck schumer and the president and others is, should we at some point actually balance our budget? and if you're going to do so, how are you going to do that? because at least we're putting something on paper and introducing it. democrats haven't done that in the senate for now close to four years. >> what is going to be the big ticket? it's not going to be obama care which means the message is there's got to be some big ticket item that is going to be in place that will balance the budget. obama care is not going to be it because you don't have the votes for that. >> we do -- >> who says that we have to balance the budget? lots of economists say that we don't. but this is a complete and utter waste of time. that it's much better to get the economy moving so more people are employed. you bring in more revenues. instead of trying to cut, cut, cut. and besides, even talking about households, how many households today have balanced budgets? most of us carry debt.
we've got to send our children to college. we, as families, have to make investments in our future. why would you be spending all this time obsessing about trying to balance the budget. and by the way, the law -- you guys lost. we want obama care. we voted for it. >> i actually won, that's why i'm sitting here. >> let the congressman answer. >> you're making the case that scares the living daylights out of me. because to continue to spend in perpetuity without any regard for our future, and our finances, and putting us on the back of the kids, at some point, somebody's going to have to pay this $16 trillion. you just can't spend into infinity without eventually sometime balancing your books. that's when states do it. my state of utah we balance our budget. >> the federal government has never balanced a budget. >> it has. >> can you two stay around afterwheres and have a balanced budget discussion? i've got to get to the next
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last week we were telling you the story of an elementary school in maryland suspended 57-year-old boy for allegedly taking his breakfast danish and chewing it into the shape of a gun.7-year-old boy for allegedl taking his breakfast danish and chewing it into the shape of a gun. the school claims that the boy who is joe well esh said bang bang. i spoke to joe and his dad and
joe said that it was not true, he never said bang bang. listen. >> i do draw tanks and i do draw a lot of stuff. and i do like guns. but i don't make guns out of food and stuff. >> so now lawmaker in the district has introduced a bill that would make sure something like this, and by this i mean punishment for the boy, not the this the chewing of the danish into the shape of a gun, making sure that that doesn't happen again. maryland state senator j.b. jennings is with us this morning to talk about this. nice to have you, senator. thank you for being with us. it seems like the entire story honestly, and i talked to the dad and the little boy the other day, seems ridiculous that they would be suspending a 7-year-old kid for this. but does it merit legislation? >> i think it does. the state -- it's taken a while to get to this point. we've had several issues come up. boards of education have talked about addressing it, but they haven't. it's taken us months to get to
this point. and you have a child that's gotten suspended for eating a pop tart into the shape of a gun. it's time to talk about it. >> but in terms of spending people's valuable time on important issues, is this one? i mean, when i look at the education, the reasonable school discipline act of 2013 which is your senate bill 1058, it looks like it would prohibit the principal to do certain things. it would authorize him to do other things. establish maximum discipline levels for k through 8, different ones for 9 through 12. and then finally keep things off of someone's record. but i guess in school, the original problem to me seemed there was a lack of flexibility in understanding how to deal with small children. and what your legislation does is the opposite thing, but kind of the same thing. >> what it does -- boards of education have handcuffed the teachers and principals in these schools with zero tolerance. what this does is it takes it away, it gives discretionary
back to the principal, back to the teacher. they can come in and say, hey, was this done on a threatening level, was it done -- was the kid playing around? and if they were, they can bring in the parents, they can sit with the parents and say, hey -- >> but shouldn't that be back to the school board saying sometimes zero tolerance is problematic in that it's zero tolerance and you're talking about small children? so the place to make that change is back in the school board, not by legislating some kind of flexibility because in a way, you also force people to make decisions. you have a different kind of punishment for k through 8 and different for 9 through 12. could i imagine situations where it's problematic, the teacher might think that something is more aggressive punishment for a 7th grader is worth doing. >> the school boards haven't stepped up to act. they have not been here. we've talked about it in this state two years ago when our state superintendent left, she talked about addressing this issue. they haven't done anything.
that's why i nput the legislatin in. it has started the discussion. you say are talking about it on national tv. now it's being addressed. hopes the boardses will take this and move forward. >> i thought talking about it with national tv with the kid and dad was also because it was silly that it got to that. the point that i was doing an interview about a 7-year-old boy about biting his danish into the sap of a gun was ridiculous. so the fact that we're continuing the conversation around something that seems to be common sense and reasonable behavior for people who are dealing with little people who are usually not particularly reasonable and don't have a lot of common sense sometimes, children, it seems like flexibility is what is needed and legislation, i guess i just think you're going up the wrong tree on this one. >> i think -- do you think the child should be suspended for doing what they did? >> do i think the school was right in doing what they did? >> yes.
>> i think that they were unreasonable. and i think that the way to fix the problem is not through legislation. i said this to the dad when i interviewed him. i think it's ridiculous what they did. but i think that then going to legislation is also unreasonable. and spending your time with your colleagues at a time when the country seems to be like stuck on a lot of issues also unreasonable. if you were my state senator, i'd want you to be doing other things and not worrying about the danish shaped into a gun to be perfectly honest. >> my constituents have called, they're upset that their students are getting in trouble for these minor infractions and getting suspended. and they want it addressed. they want changes made so that these school boards will layoff some of these children, give the teachers, the principals more flexibility to ham thndle this the classroom. >> i just think to legislate
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our starting point this morning is picking the new pope, today 115 cardinal let's take the oath of secrecy. and tomorrow they will begin the process of electing a new pope. we're live in rome with what you can expect ahead. and then six young lives cut short, teenagers in a tore risk crash in a small ohio town. this morning the search for exactly what happened. flew this morning, americans among those killed in a possible green a blue attack in afghanistan. the details straight ahead. plus could congress get involved over the tsa new regulations allowing small knives and sports equipment on airplanes. 45 hear from a flight attendant why she believes the new guidelines puts you at risk. and are women holding themselves back? cheryl sandberg touching off news about women, the workforce
and leadership and examining why more woman aren't in top leadership positions. it's monday, march 1 19s. starting point begins right now. welcome, everybody. about an a bonnie fuller is with us, belinda luscumbe. and ryan lizza is back. john sticks around, as well. we begin with a private al moment in pay pap oig history. the catholic church is about to decide its future direction, it future overall. and the distinct possibility that we could know as early as tomorrow who would guide the church's 1.2 billion members. 115 cardinal lectors in the conclave will place their first vote tomorrow afternoon. yesterday the cardinals fanned out, each assigned to preach at a designated church.
a miguel marquez is live. how is it going this morning? >> reporter: it is the calm before the storm, but certainly energetic here. we're in front of st. peter's basilica. off to the right, you can see the tiny chimney up there, the world famous chimney. that's where the black or white smoke will come. that was announce to the world whether a new pope has been named. and way over to the left, you will see a giant bell, biggest bell at the basilica. and when that bell rings, it will decide to sure whether that smoke is black or white. crunch time at the vatican. the chimney, the chimney that will announce to the world whether there's a new pope is placed atop the treasure 500-year-old sistine chapel. it is delicate work upholding a tradition where white smoke billowing from the chimney
signals a new pope has been named. >> the last thing they want is for the sistine chapel to turn into a smoke filled room. >> reporter: it is after all where michael angelo applied his hand, a specialized stove to enhance the smoke's color goes along with the chimney. it does take time for the smoke to go from gray to either white or black. >> one of the bits of drama about a conclave is that the catholic church normally is a highly scripted imminently redifficur predictable enterprise. you know what will happen and when. but with the conclave in a sense all bets are off. >> reporter: the conclave, their decision shrouded in see questions city and tradition. and modern twists. electronic jamming equipment ensures no onecity and traditio. and modern twists. electronic jamming equipment ensures no one inside or outside knows the result before it's ready to be announced. >> i'm ready to go home. i ran out of socks. >> reporter: the frontrunners out in force in rome.
could the cardinal from sao paulo be the new pope from the new world? there's one of the dark horse candidates, boston sean o'malley, key be the first american pope. >> let us pray that the holly spirit choose the new pope who will confirm us in our faith. and make more visible the love. >> reporter: the public politicking nearly over, once the conclave starts, the cardinals go into deep seclusion until a decision is made. we saw cardinal scola come out of here. they're rock stars here across rome right now. this is the last time we'll probably see him or any of these cardinals out. tomorrow they go into seclusion and the first sign, the first time we'll see smoke from that chimney up there around 2:00 eastern tomorrow. white or black? we'll have to wait. >> and we'll all be watching it closely. all right.
miguel, thanks. he's in vatican city. let's get to monsignor hilgartner. and father edward beck is in rome. i'll start with you, monsignor. so it sounds from miguel's description that these cardinals are like rock stars, the final mass, now about to head off into -- explain to me exactly what kind of campaigning can be done for a cardinal who believes he should be pope. >> it's very subtle if it's done at all. >> kissing babies doesn't sound very subtle. >> that's cardinal's natural way. he does that on a normal sunday. he's just that caharismatic as leader. the conversations going on now, the final general congregation, means it's all the informal conversations that take place over dinner, as they're tomorrow morning moving in to the sistine
chapel. and then the conversations cease. the actual voting process is governed by a highly formal ritual that's all conducted in latin. and so the only conversations that would take place would be the quiet whispers one to another. and they're sitting in absolute hierarchical order. so not necessarily with camps or friends or people that they know. but they sit in their order of precedence and order of seniority. so they don't chood choose where they sit. and it's basically done in silence. >> let me ask father beck a question. a general editor of the catholic almanac said this, and he was correlating the cardinals who are active in social media to those who also seem to be the frontrunners which i thought was kind of interesting. he said this, when you finger down the list of tweeting cardinals, many of them that are
considered papable, cardinal scola tweets aggressively, shearer and cardinal dolan is popular online. father beck, we tweet back and forth, do you think that there is 134 correlation between aggressive on social media and being sort of high up on the list of possible popes? >> i'm not really sure how much impact that has. because when you read moos of the tweets, they're rather innocuous. i do think that those who are tweeting are very interesting candidates. yesterday i was at that mass with cardinal dolan. and he was indeed like a rock star in that church. it was obvious to me that italians in that church had never seen him before, they were amazed at the personality that exuded from cardinal dolan. when i was outside, i was standing next to an italian gentleman and he said something to me in italian that i didn't quite get, it sounded very i had had i don't matt tick. and so i said to the person next to he me, you can translate what he just said.
and the man said iron fist in a velvet glove. perhaps for many that is quintessential definition for cardinal dolan. he is a staunch conservative, he does it with a smile, with a compassion and accessibility that many are looking for in a pope today. >> archbishop of new york of course. i think will there are a lot of people there is no way an american is going to be pick the as pope. so do you think -- we heard miguel say 2:00 p.m. tomorrow is the first possible time a vote will be taken. do you think it will be that straightforward, by 2:00, we'll see the black, white, gray smoke? >> it always starts gray. it takes a while to figure it out. last time in 2005, they had to -- there was even confusion when they rang the bell because the bells ring pretty regularly. >> i remember. >> i really don't see it happening in one vote. in the first ballot, in the
early ballots, they can have as many candidates as they want. there could be 20 different people getting votes. and it means that no one's ever get to get to a two-thirds joert. cardinal francis george said it's the first ballot that will show the mind to the college of cardinals, the first time that they'll see the collective mind of the body. >> just the narrowing down. >> so it will take several days i think. >> thanks, gentlemen, we certainly appreciate it. can't wait to watch all this. very exciting. >> it will be an interesting time. >> need c-span cameras. >> wouldn't that be great inside? and everybody should be allowed to tweet what's going on. we appreciate it, thank you for being with us. got to get to breaking news this morning. listen. we're getting more information on this afghanistan attack that
happened on monday, learning that americans in fact are among those who are killed this morning. the attack happened in eastern afghanistan. unclear if those americans are service members or what exactly their roles are in afghanistan. several nato and afghan troops were also reportedly killed. we're told somebody was wearing an afghan service uniform opened fire on the group, another what they're calling a green on blue attack. we'll continue to follow this story and bring you more information as it breaks and as it becomes available. john berman has a look at other stories making news. chuck hagel is in germany, he just left afghanistan this morning after a tense meeting with president karzai. karzai is publicly accusing the u.s. of collaborating with the taliban to keep afghanistan destabilized. his claim is that the goal is to justify keeping a military presence in that country beyond 2014. chuck hagel is telling reporters that he assured karzai that is simply not the case. new overnight, the north korean army declaring an
armistice agreement that ended the korean war in 1953 is invalid. that announcement coming on the heels of joint military exercises between the u.s. and south korea that are getting under way this morning. north korea calling the drills an open declaration of war and also threatening a new clear attack against the united states. they are clearly raising the rhetoric here, but analysts say the north is nowhere near the technology to back that threat up. the north has nullified the armistice agreement several times in the past we should also add that. police in warren, ohio say speed was definitely a factor in the suv crash that killed six teens over the weekend, but it is not known just how fast the driver was going when the car went off the road, flipped over, and ended up in the pond. the six victims range in age from 14 to 19. their families and friends now dealing with just unimaginable grief. >> i kept seeing people walking around and i thought it was her, and it wasn't each time. >> i just had to walk and walk
and identify her body and it was her. >> two teens in the suv did survive the crash. according to police, some of those on board were wearing seatbelts. meanwhile while the northeast experienced spring like conditions this is weekend, parts of the upper midwest are digging out from yet another powerful winter blast. this is video from iowa, a very snowy interstate 35 proved to be a bit too icy for some cars. they crashed in to ditches there. so facebook's chief operating officer igniting serious discussion with her new book "lean in." it exams why there are so few women in positions of power in corporate america and the problem says sandberg may just be with the women themselves. >> i'm not trying to say that everything i can do everyone can do. but i do believe that these messages are completely universal. to things that hold women back, hold women back from sitting at
the board room table, and they hold women back from speaking up at the pta meeting. >> soledad will sit down with cheryl sandberg this week. we'll bring you that interview next week. and all day today, we'll take an in-depth look at the challenges women face with special coverage what woman want work and family. >> it is so interesting. every time a woman writes some kind of an article talking about how it's not possible to have it all, it sets off this firestorm are or even the cover, was it news week that did the cover of the work that was nursing her -- >> "time" magazine. >> it's never just sort of, oh, this is interesting orsdy agrees or i agree. it just sends people into an absolute tizzy. an indication of how much i guess frustration, anger, hopefulness there is underneath the topic. >> she was not surprised at the sort of personal attacks. because if you remember, before the book came out, there was a
lot of hatred sort of swirling around what she was trying to say. >> even before the book came out. >> but she said these things are incredibly personal and they're incredibly passionate. like women feel them very, very strongly. >> and it's complicated. if it were easy, we would have the answers. we don't clearly. >> and women just feel so torn. because women tend to be perfectionists, they want to be the best at their jobs, but they also want to be the best mothers they can be. and so they live in a perpetual state of guilt and a feeling like they can't succeed at either role properly. and i think she addresses these issues very well. >> it will be interesting to see when people can actually go out and get the book and read it. >> it's available today. >> studies have shown that women spend more time with their kids if you're working you spend as much time with your kids as the stay at home mom did all those years ago. engaged time. >> but the fact that we have to
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controversial decision to allow passengers to carry small knifes on board airplanes. senator schumer says if the ts after the doesn't budge, he could look into changing the policy. >> usually when a government agency makes some kind of ruling, even if you disagree, at least you see the logic. i don't see any logic here. i hear outcries from passengers about this, almost no one has called my office to say why can't i bring a sharp knife on an airplane. >> share are a nelson is the vice president of the association of flight attendants international which also opposes the tsa's ruling. she's also a flight attend a dant with united airlines. chuck schumer does say it's not like you're getting calls and pressure on the other side. i know you're unhappy about this. but the tsa says they have to focus on more important maybe riskier things. tonight they have a point about that? >> they don't from our perspective. the tsa is saying security stops at the cockpit door and that
doesn't sit well with the flight attendants or any of the passengers who are in our care. we have to have the tools to be able to address the problems that happen on a daily basis. a and we do that very well. we deescalate problems and we direct passengers when necessary to help contain the problems on board. introducing weapons into that scenario doesn't make any sense. >> there is a "usa today" editorial about the tsa decision and one of the things that they point back to is back in 2005, scissors with blades of less than four inches and seven inch long screwdrivers were allowed on board and they go on to say if anything, those sound more dangerous than folding knives with blades barely more than two inches long, yet says the tsa, billions of people have traveled without a single incident. i guess their point would be it just sounds like it's dangerous. when you look back at something that could be equally dangerous that was changed in 2005, will has been no real huge indicator
that that was a problem. does he have a point? >> this is a really slippery slope. so what are we going to do, are we going to continue down the road in the federal air marshals agree with us and so does law enforcement that we do not need these blades on board. they will be concealed weapons. and there were blades that were smaller that be this that caused all the damage that took place on september 11th. the reason we don't have knives on board our aircraft today is because of september 11th. and that attack that happened here on u.s. soil. so the other thing they're talking about is harmon iizing with europe. the pant bomber, shoe bomber, only terrorist attacks that happened since 9/11, they went through security in amsterdam and paris. we want to follow their lead? i don't think so. >> but in some way that is their point. like let's focus our resources on the shoe bomber and the underwear bomber because those are the things that can blow a massive hole in the side of the plane. and given a specific number of
resources, you've got to make some decisions about where you think the biggest threat is going to come from. again, i'm just highlighting what they say is sort of their rationale that when i first read it, sounded -- made no accepts to sense to me, but they're saying we have a limited number of dollars. shouldn't we put our energy to where we know things that will bring a plane down.shouldn't we where we know things that will bring a plane down. >> it's about making sure everyone on the aircraft is alive and safe when it lands. it's very simple to say no knives on board. what is the tsa going to do now, have arguments with people about how big the knife is? this is going to slow down security, it won't speed it up. and it won't have the desired effect. security is a layered approach. and flight attendants are the last line of defense in that security. do not make our lives harder in doing our jobs. we have these disturbances every single day and it's not just about terrorist threats. we have our planes are fuller
than ever, people are -- air rage is happening more than ever. >> we've covered a certain number of crazy drunk passengers doing crazy things. so you're saying if those people had the opportunity to have a switch blade with them, it would be not necessarily a terrorist act, but certainly very dangerous. >> it's very dangerous. and so we're asking the public everywhere to sign our petition to the white house to get them to weigh in on this. it's no knives on planes.com. >> thank you for sh nelson, nic you. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. so from hugo chavez to the health food craze, justin timberlake tackles current events and enters a new club on "saturday night live".
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welcome back. we begin with john berman and a look at the day's top stories. >> so the rape trial involving two high school players in steubenville, ohio will center on one thing, cop septembnt. a friend recorded a video of the accuser. she was drinking and impaired. he could be calling her a, quote, dead girl and so raped while he and others around him laughed. cleveland plain dealer reports that the defense will say she conceptsented to sex. this trial highly controversial.
the race for president of venezuela is heating up. capriles tried but failed last year to unseat the former leader. he goes up against acting president madura sworn in last week. the election is april 14. we've been talking all morning cheryl sandburg's new book. she shez women themselves are often to blame for not being at the top in the american corporate ladder. she says they don't think they can have it all, therefore, don't fight for it. erin burnett sat down with former first lady laura bush who says she found a lot to like in sandberg's book. >> i just thought it was interesting, this whole idea of empewering women by the idea of being able to lean into an issue or a way that you can both development your own self in a broader and deeper way.
but also to be able to help other people. >> you can see the entire interview tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. so it turns out that heart disease has been around for a while. a very, very long while. a new study published sunday showed mummies from around the world, some going back more than 3,000 years, had a high prevalence of clogged arterieses, a condition often attributed to modern life. fatty foods, lack of exercise. so since the mummies predated cheese burgers and video game, some doctors are now reconsidering the causes of heart disease. in this corner from long islands, 68-year-old weighing 230 pound, congressman peter king. he looks great. he stepped in to the ring this weekend for a charity exhibition bout with a former kick boxing champion who is less than half the congressman's age. you can see it here, the congress map really did pretty well. he has lot of experience
sparring on the show.map really well. he has lot of experience sparring on the show. >> i will never argue with him again. look at him. he's about to take out that man. take your shirt off congressman, come on. he looks so good. >> he wasn't even sweating. >> he was fun to watch. >> but have you ever argued with him? i remember once on air he chewed my head off for some stray comment. >> he will chew you out. he works out boxes for fun. eating nails for breakfast. all right. let's talk more about washington, d.c. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle trying to find a deal on the budget 37 t37. congressman paul ryan will introduce a budget this week that requires obamacare to be fully repealed 3737. congressman paul ryan will introduce a budget this week that requires obamacare to be fully repealed 377. congressman paul ryan will introduce a budget this week that requires obamacare to be fully repealed 37. congressman paul ryan will introduce a budget this week that requires obamacare to be fully repealed 37 washington insiders say d.c. is a hot mess. >> washington is dysfunctional, but in a dysfunctional way.37 w insiders say d.c. is a hot mess. >> washington is dysfunctional, but in a dysfunctional way. was
insiders say d.c. is a hot mess. >> washington is dysfunctional, but in a dysfunctional way. members of congress and administration agree on too much. we agree on spending money we don't have, we agree on not oversighting the programs. we agree on continuing to spend money on programs that don't work. basically we agree on too much. >> senator richard blumenthal is a democrat from the state of connecticut. nice to have you with us. do you agree with senator coburn, dysfunctional in a dysfunctional way? >> it has been dysfunction al and it has to do better. that should have been our new year's resolution with the resolution of the fiscal cliff to change the way washington does business. >> who knew it would just be the beginning of sequester. >> the hopeful sign is that there is a way to work together and the recent resolution on the violence of women act provide as hopeful template. the house adopted the bill and now it's reauthorized. i think that the same could happen on fiscal issues if there is the outreach that the
president has demonstrated and if we keep in mind that the main goal is to really keep the economy reviving and create jobs. that is common ground that we all want to see. >> we're knee deep this it the sequester, but it does bring us to a place where everybody has to make a decision. let me play a little bit of paul ryan's conversation with chris wallace from fox. he was asking about his new budget which part of that budget of course would be repealing obamacare. >> are you saying that as part of your budget, you would repeal you assume the repeal of obamacare? >> yes. >> that's not going to happen. >> well, we believe it should. that's the point. this is what budgeting is all about, chris. it's about making tough choices to fix our country's problems. >> is that what budgeting is all about, making these sort of choices when most people would tell that you obamacare is not going to be repealed certainly the way the senate looks now? >> repealing ining bo ining ob
fiscally unwise. we can reduce the cost of health care which is one of the main objectives by continuing with the afford able care act. so a nonstarter. and not helpful because what we need to come together on is realistic ways to make this sequester more flexible and then go beyond it to a bigger agreement. >> congressman said the goal is to lay down on a piece of paper what you believe and what your priorities are and to then to put that out and then the other side can put out their side. it's not about sort of say, well, we'll never pass obamacare. it's a statement of your vision and your values. >> that approach represents why we have dysfunction in washington. if there were allowance for the majorities to come together and do business and reach agreement rather than the filibuster which prevents a majority in the
senate and the approach in the house which has been the speaker's approach to say that there has to be a majority of republicans, we would come together and reach an agreement. but the ideological instances and the in-flexibilities i think are the reason doctor we have dysfunction in washington. and saying that ideology is going to dictate the result here when we face a potential crisis in our economy, if we fail to continue to create jobs, the revival of the economy, housing starts are better, employment is better, but we need to be mindful about the threat that the sequester represents to the economy. >> is there any silver lining in the sequester? >> there is still ver lining in the sequester. we're cutting spending which we need to do. the point is we need to do it responsibly. smart cuts. not across the board slashing arbitrary cuts. and we need to have a balance on the other side, too, which obviously sequester does not address. we need to raise revenue by closing those loophole, ending
the special tax breaks and subsidies, oil and gas, companies that send jobs overseas as well as the big agri businesses. there is money there to be saved. and also cutting the cost of health care and improving that health care by eliminating for example hospital acquired disea diseases, other kinds of waste and fraud in the medicare program. but not cutting the benefits. >> you're criticizing the house republicans for putting things in their budget that they all campaigned on. surely when the senate which hasn't passed a budget in a number of years, democratic senate when they put out a budget, you'll have things in there that you know the republicans won't sign on to. isn't that the way the process works? a conference committee will work things out and you hopefully will trade some of these things that run acceptable to either side? isn't that just the process? >> that's been the way the process has worked. where a minority says no
revenue, no revenue whatsoever, any sort of closing loopholes or any tax breaks is off the table. that's a recipe for dysfunction. we're saying and we will actually produce a budget to say it more con krocretely that wil needs to be a balanced approach. and we're willing to talk. if we close the loophole, if we cut responsibly, not across the board. for example, cutting special operations, special forces in the military, cutting submarines, cutting tri care which is the health care plan, $3 billion, that kind of cut along with nutrition, health care, the country just won't go for it. and it impacts employment. i keep coming back to the economy because we have to keep our eye on that ball. job creation, economic growth, there is common ground. >> would the senate have even produced a budget if the house hadn't forced you to do it, if the house republicans didn't say you have to do a budget or we
won't pay you? >> we passed a budget that won't go through the house. but there is common ground with the republicans in the senate. i think the senate can take the lead and produce a budget and we function with a continuing resolution, this continuing resolution in the short term that i think there will be agreement on can provide some additional flexibilities while the president goes for a be big and better agreement, which i think is within reach as long as we use the violence against women act as a hopeful template and say if the majority in the house is given the freedom to vote and create a majority, we'll have an agreement. >> which has happened on on sandy and the fiscal cliff. >> exactly. on sandy, the fiscal cliff, on various other -- >> but the senate and white house negotiate something and then you embarrass the house republicans in to putting it on the floor. am i right? >> we can encourage them to to the right thing. >> i don't know that that's a template that will stick.
but hope springs eternal. sir, nice to have you with us. got to take a break. still ahead, new report sheds disturbing light on a chinese cyber spy group. anything that we can do to keep american trade secrets safe from foreign hackers? we'll take a look at that. trs we're americans. we work. we plan. ameriprise advisors can help you like they've helped millions of others. to help you retire your way, with confidence. ♪ that's what ameriprise financial does. that's what they can do with you. let's get to work. ameriprise financial. more within reach.
the runway or if anybody was injured. we'll continue to follow the story and bring you more as it comes in. business news now. zain asher has an update for us. good morning. >> minding your business this morning, stocks are set to pull back a bit today. although the loss aren't huge, dow futures are gown less than 20 points. not surprising that investors are taking a break especially after the run up we saw last week. the dow hit an all-time high tuesday and never looked back. also more people are taking mass transit and it could be a good sign for the economy ridership on public transportation in 2012 was the second highest on record with 10.5 billion trips taken. but also most of those trips are workers who are commuting to their job. the thinking is more strap hangers means more jobs are added to a community, but another factor could be the high gas prices we saw last year. gas prices reached $3.60 last year. so no wonder people are being more tempted by subways and buses. >> which is a good thing ultimately. certainly in the cities that
have decent mass transit, it's good. still ahead this morning, new research shows that many major u.s. companies have been hacked and secrets are going overseas. a new report takes a look at the disturbing trend. [ phil ] when you have joint pain and stiffness... accomplishing even little things can become major victories. i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer. when i was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis, my rheumatologist prescribed enbrel for my pain and stiffness, and to help stop joint damage. [ male announcer ] enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections.
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back to breaking news. an update on the story we were telling you about, americans are among those killed this morning in an attack in eastern afghanistan. want to get right to barbara starr live at the pentagon this morning. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the coalition in kabul now announcing that two americans are dead in this attack, that they are u.s. special forces. this happened in eastern afghanistan, this is a place that is a bone of contention between the coalition and the government of hamid karzai. he wants u.s. special forces out of that province. there has been very contentious fighting there. now two u.s. special forces dead in this so-called green on blue attack. and afghan security force member apparently turning his weapon on them. defense secretary chuck hagel on
his way home now at this hour from a very difficult visit in afghanistan over the weekend. a lot of controversy between the u.s. and karzai right now about sorting out a number of matters. the future of u.s. forces in that country. >> barbara sar for tarr for us. thank you. a new report on cyber threats. a few weeks ago big news linked china to cyber espionage and attempts to steal american trade secrets. this morning there is updated information on where the threats exist. the chief security officer is with us. nice to is you with us. so explain what these hackers are looking for. trade secrets, personal information, looking to get into accounts and drain money? what is it about? >> that's right, soledad, we see two sets of attackers in broad groups. we have intruders who are nation states who conduct espionage,
they're going after as you mentioned trade secrets, information that they can use to improve their own companies back home. and we also see criminal groups. so our company works not only on the nations state side, but we work on very large financial crime. and we see intruders stealing information on to create credit cards, to disable bank defenses so that intruders can steal information from other parts of their network. or even to take data and money from the atm network. >> you were there were massive amounts of data stolen from 140 organizations across 20 major industries starting from 2006. what's the best way or the most effective way i should say that these hackers are getting into these major companies? >> wi s >> we see several different days. sometimes they hack a company's website. other times they try to fool employees. they will send fishing e-mails,
try to get an employee to click on a link or open an 25attachme. or attacks against employees themselves with fake data or employees who get hired to be place the asthma lish issues insiders. >> some interesting news if you look at how companies discover the attacks, back in 201 1rks only 6% of the organizations discovered the hacking themselves. that number is now 37% in 2012 the organizations discovered hacking themselves. and i guess in that particular statistic, there is pretty good news. >> that's right. our newest report is not all doom and gloom. we see that more victim companies are finding out themselves that they have beaee hacked. and the amount of time that an intruder sends inside a com before detected has decreased from 18 months down to eight months. >> sounds like a lot of time. >> stay way too longs, but the trend is in the right direction. >> so at the end of the day, is the goal to figure out how to
get rid of those hackers, is the goal to figure out how to know that they're in earlier? what can be done? >> it's really both. you'd want to find the intruder fast and contain him so he can't do anymore damage and then remove him from the environment. unfortunately, we find in the report that 38% of the time for our clients, the victims are reattacked. so the types of companies we're helping are juicy targets for these adversaries and they want to come back and try to attack the same companies. >> richard, chief security officer, so super busy all the time. thank you. nice to talk to you. >> thank you. hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios
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