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is actually going to stick with it. and another story we're following, this is entertainment, a lot lighter. justin bieber having a tough time lately from fans, even from the paparazzi. another justin, not having such a tough time, actually, doing quite well on "snl." we are going to nischelle to talk about all things justin. how are you doing? >> hey, suzanne. it is justin times two. the good, the bad and then the bieber. but we're talking about justin timberlake first. he had a huge return to "saturday night live" this week in a couple of different ways. big ratings, the best in 14 months. his fifth time hosting was this week. he's already becoming known as one of the best saturday night live hosts ever. he even did a really funny skit for his monologue with the other members of the five timers club, steve martin, alec baldwin, paul simon, tom hanks and candice bergen, all in the sketch with justin to open the show. he was so darn funny. we're seeing right there the
singing tofu. that was my favorite. veg out, no meat, so chic. i love that. >> all right. tell us what happened to justin bieber. what was up with that? >> well, not a good week for him. you know, this past week he celebrated his 19th birthday, which he described on twitter as his worst birthday. he suffered a mysterious illness during one concert, showed up two hours late to another, had a verbal altercation with the paparazzi and seen walking the streets of london shirtless and also had a gas mask on, which he says that he allegedly -- he wore to allegedly throw off the paparazzi. even bieber himself called it a rough week. but it does keep going. after four sold out shows in london, tomorrow night his scheduled concert in portugal has been canceled by promoters. the reports were that there were not enough tickets that were sold for the show. he is playing a concert tonight in lisbon and portugal and he responded on twitter, using the #sold out.
>> hopefully he'll be doing better. we hope both of the justins are going to be really successful. so -- >> indeed. >> nice to see you, nischelle, as always. that's it for me. "cnn newsroom" continues. secrecy and smoke. it is the event that usually happens once a generation. and we are taking you inside the decision to elect the next pope. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. >> tell them you love them because you never know what can happen. tomorrow is not a promise to anybody. >> what happened minutes before an suv crashed, killing six teenagers. you'll hear what police are now saying. plus, harvard under fire for secretly looking at the e-mails of its deans. and she's been called the female mark zuckerberg. >> i've never been a male
entrepreneur. >> hear why she left her comfy job to go into a world of risk in our special series "what women want." >> i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me on a monday. want to begin with news out of afghanistan. at least two american soldiers are dead, at least ten more americans wounded in what may have been another inside job in afghanistan's wardak province. wardak province, west of kabul, afghanistan's president hamid karzai exactly two weeks ago, he accused the united states of destabilizing wardak province and ordered our special forces out of there. now two green berets are dead, ten wounded, reportedly killed by a machine gunner wearing some sort of afghan uniform. cnn's nick payton walsh is on it for us. tell me what you know about this vicious attack.
as we reported, two americans dead, ten wounded, was this an inside job? >> reporter: it seems that's the case, though at this point we normally just hear isaf, nato in afghanistan, telling us a man was wearing an afghan army uniform. too early in the investigation to know if he was an infiltrator or someone who turned, who is part of the afghan security forces. what we do know from afghan officials he apparently leapt on the back of a truck and used a heavy machine gun to shoot at these americans. among that group were some special forces, green berets, killing two, injuring ten, and some other afghan injuries and dead as well along with that. he was then shot dead as they returned fire. the timing of this is absolutely key. as you mentioned earlier, brooke, today was the day in which president karzai demanded u.s. special forces pull out of that province, after allegations that a militia working with them, the afghans had in fact killed a young afghan man recently. enormous tensions around this, only exacerbating the american
loss. but also should point out we just had a visit from chuck hagel, new secretary of defense to kabul, his first meeting with hamid karzai and during that hamid karzai made strange comments in which he suggested the americans and the taliban were somehow working together, somehow colluding to continue violence in the country, to give it justification for u.s. troops to stay there. that's been immediately knocked back by nato, and the white house today. but it show house tense this relationship is now, brooke, allegations like that could be made. >> whole other layer of murkiness because of that, the last bit you reported with chuck hagel there in what karzai is now saying. nick payton walsh, thank you very much for us, in beirut. now to italy we go. the cardinals, they have arrived. the papal chimney is installed. and the catholic church is now ready to choose a new pope. so what now? starting tomorrow, 115 cardinal electors enter this code of silence inside the sistine chapel. each will be handed a paper ballot. tomorrow afternoon, they'll write down the name of their
chosen candidate and then they fold up the ballots, they're counted, keep in mind, if a cardinal gets two-thirds of the vote, that's what they have to have, he immediately becomes pope. the papal fires will then burn, sending a message in smoke to the world that a new pope has been elected. that is the white smoke. we don't know yet when that will happen. john allen is live from rome and so, john, here on this eve before the conclave, in preparation, tell me what is happening tonight. >> reporter: well, brooke, just to introduce one little nuance in the tic tac you gave our viewers, the guy doesn't become pope when he gets two thirds of the vote. there is one other step that has to happen -- >> hang on, john, i can't hear you. let that siren go by. i'll start you over. please pick up where you were. >> reporter: just one bit of nuance, the guy doesn't become pope the moment he gets two-thirds of the vote. what happens is another cardinal inside that conclave, inside the sistine chapel approaches him and asks him if he accept his
election. we're all assuming he would, but technically he could say no and they have to start the process all over again. but assuming that happens, then once that magic moment comes we'll have a pope, get the white smoke. what's going on tonight, brooke, things are unfolding at two levels. one is logistics. last minute preparations are being made inside the sistine chapel, where the conclave will also take place. and also the hoe houtel on vati grounds where the cardinals will be staying. that's where the politics of this conclave will go on, once they're in lockdown. the other thing going on, of course, is the cardinals are meeting informally today in twos and threes and tens and 20s, to try to get past where they left things off in their general meetings this week, where they were talking about issues facing the church. now they're trying to get down to brass tacks about who the next pope is going to be. and that, of course, brooke is the $64,000 question.
>> so then before, though, we know who the next pope is, before we see the white smoke billowing through that sistine chapel chimney, what should really, john, the world be watching for day in and day out from this conclave? >> reporter: well, obviously the conclave itself is going to be unfolding behind closed doors. so what to watch for is this. first of all, tomorrow morning, a mass is going to be celebrated for the election of the pope, in which all of these 115 cardinal electors will be taking part. and that's the last public act of the preconclave period. a homily is going to -- a reflection is going to be delivered by the dean of the college of cardinals, 85-year-old cardinal angelo sardano, not in the conclave but has a lot of influence. this is his last chance to set a tone. in the afternoon, we'll see this carefully choreographed procession of the cardinals moving from the vatican's paline chapel down the hall of
blessings ending in the sistine chapel singing this magnificent latin hymn, a hymn to the holy spirit, of course, catholics believe the election of a pope unfolds under the guidance of the spirit. once they're in the sistine chapel, you're not going to see that. what will be waiting for are the windows around midmorning, lunch time, midafternoon, and in the evening room time, where either you get black smoke meaning no pope, or white smoke meaning we have got a pope. >> john allen, we'll be watching right there with you, very exciting the next couple of days, perhaps weeks, in vatican city in rome. thank you, sir. now to a tough story to tell. this is absolute heart break in this small northeastern ohio town. friends and family are grieving today for these six young lives lost because of an suv crash. police say, here it is, the suv was speeding sunday morning in the wee hours before it smashed into a guardrail, flipped into a swamp, killing five boys and one girl who was driving. two teen boys managed to break
out of one of the suv's windows, ran to a home, was able to call 911. relatives spoke with cnn and the driver's uncle said this to a reporter. >> identify her body and it was her. >> i just want him to come home and he can't. no parent can understand what it's like to lose -- some parents can understand what it's like to lose a child, but you don't really know it until it hits you. and he can't come home, he can't come through the door, mom, what's for dinner, what did you cook, mom? i'm not going to hear none of it anymore. >> they had me identify him. i went back there, and all i seen was tubes and blood everywhe everywhere. and after i identified him, i ran out, and i couldn't -- i just lost everything.
>> school's district superintendent says grief counselors are on hand at the two schools where the students attended and the community is pulling together. the suv had been taken without permission, though it is not yet clear where this group was going. there is no sign that they had been drinking. question for you, are women themselves to blame if they're not moving up quicker than they would like up that corporate ladder. one of the biggest names in tech thinks so. she is sharyl sandberg. hearing a lot about her lately because she has a new book out, ruffling some feathers. we'll hear her advice to women on getting ahead. plus, not giving up. actress valerie harper on her very public and emotional battle with terminal cancer. . but i'll tell you what impresses me. a talking train. this ge locomotive can tell you exactly where it is, what it's carrying, while using less fuel. delivering whatever the world needs, when it needs it. ♪
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what we're talking about today, what women want and right on cue, one of the world's most successful women has caused a bit of a stir with her comments about success and women. you heard about this. sheryl sandberg, chief operating officer of facebook, leaning to this. here is her interview from "60 minutes". >> plenty of women are as ambitious as men, but i am saying, and i want to say it unequivocally and unapologetically that the data is clear when it comes to ambition to lead, to be the leader of whatever you're doing, men, boys, outnumber girls and women. >> some women will hear that and say, wow, she's telling me i'm not working hard enough, i'm not trying hard enough. she's blaming women. >> yeah. i'm not blaming women. my message is not one of blaming women. there is an awful lot we don't control. i am saying that there is an awful lot we can control and we
can do for ourselves. >> so that is sheryl sandberg on "60 minutes." here is former first lady laura bush, she is chiming in on this whole lean in movement. of course, the title of sheryl sandberg's new book. laura bush talked to erin burnett. >> i have two girls, who have been leaning in since the day they were born, i think. they're both very interested in the outside world, and in life outside of themselves. when you go through those teenage years, teenagers are usually very self-conscious and my advice always to teenagers and young people is to move outside of yourself, by looking at other people, by looking at ways you can use your own talents. >> you can watch all of erin's interview with former first lady laura bush, tonight, 7:00 eastern, on erin burnett out front 7:00. one of the hottest new companies out there maybe you know the name, heard of task
rabbit? guess what, founded by a woman. a very young woman, might i add. here is cnn's dan simon. >> so i'm thinking if we can have trust plus efficiency as like an equation or something -- >> reporter: she's been compared to mark zuckerberg, smart, entrepreneurial and driven. at 32 years old, leah buskey is the founder and ceo of what is one of the biggest up and comers in america, task rabbit. >> over the past 12 months we have 5x'd our revenue, quadrupled the number of active users as part of our user base and launched ten major cities across the country. >> three chocolate chip cookies and three peanut butter. >> reporter: task rabbit allows you to hire people to do small jobs. joyce apple is a taskrabbit hired to deliver sweets to a party. >> i am my own boss, per se, being a taskrabbit. helps me to manage my time and i
meet really fun people. >> reporter: but back to leah. >> i love this animation. >> reporter: even more unique than her fast growing company is the fact that she's a female software engineer. this picture says it all, sur rounded by men at her previous job as a computer programmer at ibm. >> the culture of at ibm must be dramatically different from san francisco startup. >> it is completely different. yeah. i went from a company of being one of 400,000 to one of one. >> reporter: she left her comfy job to enter the risky world of technology startups, a career that leaves little room for a personal life. leah uses her own company to handle mundane tasks like laundry and grocery shopping. perhaps not surprising, more women use taskrabbit than men. in 2011, san francisco magazine compared her to zuckerberg, and placed her head on his body. in an essay for women's 2.0, she wrote she was honored but at the
same time it was disheartening to see my head placed on a male's body. as if masculine features are synonymous with uber success. >> i've never been a male entrepreneur, so i'm not really sure what sort of challenges they may face versus my own. being an entrepreneur is hard, all around. it is not easy. >> reporter: she repeatedly says she doesn't focus on gender. still, the other top executives at taskrabbit are also women. she says they were just the most qualified. overall, she says the staff is about 50/50. >> the baby has been easy. the baby has been way easier than everyone made it out to be. >> reporter: as for fellow tech executives like yahoo!'s marissa mayer and what seems like a constant focus on her being a woman ceo -- when is she just going to become a ceo? >> when was hillary clinton going to become just someone running for president? i mean, i don't know. that's a good question. i think it is going to take some time. >> reporter: dan simon, cnn, san
remember that little show called lost? it did more than crank out huge ratings on abc for six seasons, leaving millions of fans with questions i still have, like what the heck was the tropical island they were living on, what was up with the polar bears. "lost" went on to become a cultural phenomenon here, giving birth to the new term. you heard of transmedia story telling? through the show's original video games and the webisodes, it added depth to the show's bizarre and entrancing universe. one of the men behind this whole show is carlton coups, one of the show's former writers and executive producers joins me live from south by southwest at austin where he's talking about,
of course, transmedia. carlton, welcome. nice to meet you. tell me this first and foremost, just how are you getting tv viewers to watch, to interact, beyond just picking up the remote and watching good old-fashioned television? >> you know, i think that's a great question, brooke. there are i think with all the new media platforms coming into existence, all the new opportunities for show writers. you construct a story, whether it is "lost" or others it like building an iceberg. you have to construct the entire iceberg, but only the top 15% is above the water. that's the part that goes in the show that you see on broadcast. but as storytellers, we're creating the rest of the iceberg and the other media platforms like the internet and webisodes create opportunities for us to tell stories from the lower part of the iceberg. >> how does it create the opportunity instead of kill good old tv. you have sites like netflix, just themselves producing shows like "house of cards" with kevin
spacey, more and more people are learning to skip through the commercials, how do you keep television relevant and also make sure people are clicking as well? >> i think it is tough. i think that television viewing is changing dramatically. used to be media and more television dictated when you watched it. now we as viewers dictate when we want to watch television. so i think that's why the value of live broadcasts like sports has become so -- they have become so valuable because one of the few things that people watch live. as a show creator, what you're hoping to do is make a buzz worthy show where, you know, people have to watch it when it is actually airing. so, for instance, i'm a "breaking bad" fan, i wouldn't want to go more than a day after an episode of "breaking bad" aired without seeing it because i wouldn't want to be out of the conversation. you're trying to make something that has enough impact in the social consciousness that people want to watch it right away. >> i love you said that. >> in the meantime, these other -- >> let me say, being part of the conversation, whether "breaking
bad" or watching cnn, we're all sitting here tweeting, i love live feedback. looking into your crystal ball, because i wanted to pick your brain, ten, 20 years from now, what do you think television looks like? >> well, you'll probably walking around south by southwest watching tv on your google glasses, you know? >> seriously? you're being serious? >> i am serious. i think that you'll have -- you'll be able to watch television wherever you are, so if you're sitting in an airport, you'll be able to literally watch it on your lenses in front of your face. i think that ipads and iphones and, you know, computers are all going to seem somewhat obsolete. there is going to be a myriad of options where you'll be able to watch programming. and like anything else, you know, good programming will always win out. people always are going to be interested in good storytelling. it is just the amount of -- the options are going to be fairly infinite, i think. >> that will just increase the challenge to then turn it all
off and get silence. that's all a challenge for me sometimes. carlton coups of "the bates motel," enjoy austin. thank you very much. now to this, critics sounding the alarm after the tsa okays the small knives on planes. >> it looks dangerous. and it is dangerous. this can kill someone. >> well, the tsa has now responded here about whether it will keep the policy amid all the criticism including from senator chuck schumer.
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barbara walters has spoken. elizabeth hasselbeck not leaving "the view." walters smacked down the buzz circulating that the co-host was being fired for her conservative opinions. take a listen. >> we value and appreciate her point of view. it is important to us because elizabeth helps give the show perspective and balance.
we have no plans for elizabeth to leave the show. okay. >> well, someone is leaving, comedian joy behar. she is headed out at the end of august. the morning talk show is in its 17th season. now to some of the hottest stories in a flash. we call it rapid fire. roll it. first up, kwame kilpatrick is guilty. so says a jury in the case against the former mayor of detroit. kilpatrick convicted on a laundry list of federal charges including fraud, bribery, extortion. he could face up to 20 years in prison. no word yet on a date for sentencing. the tsa standing by its decision to start allowing the small knives on airplanes. they issued a statement just a couple of minutes ago reiterating their plan to implement this rule change come april 25th. the agency says that the change will allow security agents to then focus on bigger threats, like explosives. but new york senator chuck
schumer says the move makes zero sense. >> when a government agency makes some kind of ruling, even if you disagree with it, you see the logic. i don't see logic here. i hear outcries from passengers about this, almost no one called my office to say why can't i bring a sharp knife on an airplane. >> also questioning the logic, flight attendants union and the ceo of delta airlines also on the record opposing this upcoming rule change. the u.s. expelled two venezuelan diplomats, after venezuela kicked two u.s. military attaches out of its country last week. the country chooses a new president to replace hugo chavez on april 14th. socialist vice president nicolas maduro on the left there is in charge, but the opposition leader on the right side of the screen, he is expected to give maduro a run for his money. and after six straight days of gains here, the dow, it is starting on an upnote on this monday.
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actress valerie harper is now opening up about her rare terminal cancer diagnosis. you know her, she was the '70s sitcom star. she went on nbc's "today" show this morning to tell her fans that she is not done fighting the disease that is currently attacking the lining of her brain. >> first, i thought, oh, my god, three months to live. it is not the whole truth. it is not -- yes, i may be, but
it could be six, it could be five years. you know, you just don't know. the thing i have is very rare, and it is serious, and it's incurable, so far. so i'm holding on to this so far. but i'm also quite ready to say bye-bye. >> want to bring in senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. i love how she's fighting and speaking out. >> so amazing. >> so much. >> so amazing. >> tell me about the cancer. technically it is not brain cancer. >> it is not a brain tumor, exactly. as far as we know it is not in the brain, it is in the meninges, the bag surrounding the brain. >> is it treatable at all? >> doctors do sometimes chemotherapy, but doctors tell us the main purpose of the chemotherapy is to control seizures and to control pain. it doesn't really extend life very much. if it does, it is by a matter of weeks. >> you say if it can extend by a
matter of weeks, what is her prognosis as of today? >> she says her doctors have told her three months, which is about what doctors have told us as well, three to six months. you know, i think that for those of us that do not have a terminal illness, that sounds luke a short time. but speaking to people with that kind of a prognosis, they feel that's an important time, an important time to do what they want to do, to hope for some kind of a cure and to, if necessary, say good-bye to the people they love. >> elizabeth cohen, thank you. coming up next, our hot topics panel, is it okay for a once male, now female, transgender fighter to take on a woman, talking athletics and someone being transgender. plus, harvard secretly taking a look at the e-mail accounts of some of its deans and parents, banning together to drive out sex offenders. wait until you hear exactly how they're doing it in neighborhoods. my panelists are standing by. we'll attack all the topics. they're revealed next. moking, and i honestly didn't think i would ever quit. [ male announcer ] along with support,
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for the next half hour, we will hit the hot topics, the stories you'll be talking about over dinner tonight. first up, whether the fight you're about to see is fair. this is a mixed martial arts match, mma, between two women in florida's championship fighting alliance tournament. check it out. >> they're both back up on their feet. >> good throws and reversals by both fighters. >> these girls are getting right into it. fox taking a knee. and that's it. holy cow. >> what a beautiful knee, beautiful clinch, right to the chin. >> people are calling the knockout into question here. not just because of what just -- what we witnessed inside the ring, but outside. years before this face-off. the winner here, 37-year-old fallon fox, born a man. in 2006, she had surgery to become a woman. her competitor did not know that until after she lost to fox. now, fox says flat out she won fair and square.
the only reason she was outed -- i should say she outed herself because a reporter was investigating her gender. >> it is completely fair. the medical community stands behind me on that. and that there is no unfair competitive advantages, which is the arguments who oppose my competition have said. if it wasn't for that, i would have preferred to keep my personal medical history to myself, because that's what it is a matter of, my personal medical history and i don't think anybody should have to reveal their personal medical history if they don't feel they want to. >> let me bring in my hot topics panel today, we have psychologist paula blume, lauren ashburn, jawn murray, and patrick henry bass, editorial projects director at essence magazine. welcome, welcome. happy monday to you all. jawn murray, let me have you weigh in on this. do you think it is fair to have
her competing with fellow female fighters? >> brooke, i don't. and i -- i know legally, you know, her blood work says she's now a woman, but, you know, i still have some questions about the hormone levels and stuff. they're giving her estrogen and stuff. i have a problem with a real fighting organization allowing someone who was once a man compete with a woman. if this was wwe, which is sports entertainment, more scripted athleticism because there was a woman named china who would wrestle the men there, i wouldn't have a problem with it because we know what we're getting. with this real action sports scenario, i have a problem with the fact she was once a man. >> you have a problem. go ahead, lauren. you're not a doctor. >> i'm not a doctor, but i do have to sign those endless hipaa forms every time i go to the doctor saying, it's -- they're not allowed to release information without me knowing about it. and i feel for her on this. it is it isn't anybody's business who she was before she is who she is. now. and i think that people -- the
argument is that, oh, she's going to be stronger because men are stronger, and that should be disclosed. but it still comes down to personal liberties. this is her personal decision. >> yeah, in the eyes of the law, she is a she. she had the gender reassignment surgery in '06. look at international olympic committee rule, if she were in the olympic, that requires two years of hormone, she would be considered a female. let me play this, though, one of the concerns as we heard it from some of her opponents who had no idea she used to be a he. here is a manager of someone she beat. >> knowing that what you're getting into, you know, not having any disclosure of something of that nature, you know, it puts a lot of stress after the fight obviously, you know, as this story is breaking. but, you know, it is something that the managers know that they should disclose and which they didn't. >> so, patrick, do you think the other fighters, now everyone knows her sort of history. but do you think if you were going up against her here in the
ring, just for your own, i guess, mind sake, you would want to know she was once a he. does that matter? >> i wouldn't go up against her in a ring. what i want to know is whether or not angela bassett or hilary swank is going to play her in a movie. this is a hot story. i find fallon fox's personal story quite riveting, former truck driver, being in the navy, going to thailand. and also there is a policy from the boxing association that they passed in 2012 for a transgender. now it is up to the boxing association to discuss that policy further. and this is a great opportunity in which to do so. >> paula blume, as our fellow psychologist here, i just am curious, weigh in. what do you make of the whole back and forth just in general? >> i think in general we're so behind, getting comfortable with transgender. we have this very black and white view of gender. and from my perspective, the only thing that is relevant is if doctors clear this and say, she is female, that there is no
undue advantage. i don't know why this is relevant. we have male soccer leagues and female soccer leagues. we have this kind of view that men play with men, women play with women. if she is technically female, and doctors agree with that, i don't see what the issue is. and i also agree that this is a medical situation, that does not need to be disclosed. >> precisely her point, it will be interesting to see, we have seen with the lpga, with the women's tennis association, sort of allowing transgender athletes to play. but there are only a few. no blanket policy when it comes to professional sports and transgender athletes. we shall watch and see. coming up next, let's talk harvard. harvard, under fire for snooping into employees' e-mail accounts. i'm talking deans' e-mail accounts. the university has responded. are the actions justified? my panel weighs in next. i really like your new jetta! and you want to buy one like mine because it's so safe, right? yeah... yeah... i know what you've heard --
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one of the best most respected higher institutions in the nation really now is accused of some low blow tactics, hacking into e-mail accounts of its own deans to find the source of a press leak. the leak was about harvard's cheating scandal. more than 100 students were accused of plagiarplagiarism, f more than half of them to leave the school at a time. the university admits into looking into the accounts of 16 resident deans without giving
them the heads up. but administrators stress only subject titles of e-mails, not the actual messages were read. harvard did find the source of the leak and got a lot of backlash from the staffers' whose accounts were accessed. one of them, harry lewis, blogged this. quote, if something as innocuous as the leakage of the august 16th e-mail justifies reading the e-mail of a dozen faculty members, it is hard to know how low the threshold might be for invasion of our in and out boxes. welcoming back my hot topics panel, lauren ashburn, i want to hear you weigh in on this. the year is 2013. anything i write on cnn e-mail i think who could be reading this in the i.t. folks who could be reading this at any given time. this is perfectly legal. >> and people are reading it. >> they are. >> of course they are. >> the question is, if we're talking harvard and this institution of free thinking, does it matter ethically where you work if you can do this? >> harvard, they're not dummies. that's why they are harvard.
right? and a lot of great and famous people have gone there and they would all tell you that you do not put anything in e-mail that you don't want your company to see. now, from a management point of view, excellent tool, right? and the new york times reports today that only the -- not the personal e-mail, but the actual professional e-mails -- >> two different e-mail accounts at harvard. >> only the professional one that was looked at, correct. but if you are putting anything in there that is of a personal nature, or if you're leaking anything, management has a right to know that. it is going to cause morale, serious morale issues. >> who agrees? >> i agree. but to me the issue is i'm wondering if they were checking people's e-mails when trying to figure out what was going on with the cheating scandal, is this that they're trying to find a whistle-blower, trying to -- >> they were trying to figure out who leaked the e-mail to the press. >> right. exactly. i'm wondering, though, were they going through people's e-mails when trying to figure out the logistics of the cheating scandal or more now and just trying to figure out who leaked?
>> this is where you meet at the coupe and hand over a paper bag with a document. you don't sent it over e-mail. >> this is part of harvard's statement. some have asked why the conclusion that review, the group of resident deans was not briefed on the review that was conducted and the outcome. the question is a fair one. operating without clear precedent for the privacy concerns. john, you want to jump in, here's the thing, they didn't get the heads up that their e-mails would be looked at. that's precisely the point. should people get a heads up. >> you don't need a heads up. in the words of the great housewives of atlanta, everybody knows your e-mail is subject to scrutiny. they have a lot of book sense but no common sense. it is common business practice here, people. i like to call people's work
e-mail the pay phone. it is the company that is paying you, so don't use that e-mail account for personal correspondences. >> so true. patrick, you agree? >> well, no one at harvard is watching and the whole whistle blowing. what i have a challenge with in this situation is that students at harvard sign an honor code, i believe that administrators should also have an honor code and you honor that code by letting at least informing someone when you're going to hack into their e-mail. >> did you think it makes whistle-blowers less likely to speak up? >> whistle blowers will always speak up. >> okay. >> i believe. >> up next, we'll talk about communities coming together to drive out sexual offenders using some surprising controversial tactics. that is next. [ male announcer ] it's simple physics...
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now to a story that pits public safety versus individual survival. the individuals in this case are sex offenders. many of them just plain flat cannot find a place to live because communities are coming together, they're banning them, even after they have done their time for the crime. new york times reports that neighborhoods across the country are now installing pocket parks. teeny tiny plots of land, forcing out sex offenders because in many states registered sex offenders are not allowed to live within a certain distance of any given park. the times says that this l.a. city councilman joe bushingco
has installed a park and has plans for two more to push out sex offenders in those areas. let me bring in my hot topics panel. and paula blume, you're fired up over this. this is perfectly legal. is it morally right? >> so i'm of two minds. i'm a psychologist. and there is research that talks about greater stability, having a home for people with sexual -- who are offenders are less likely to offend. when you have a lot to lose, that keeps you a little bit more in line. when there is no consequences, where you feel like you're homeless, nothing to lose, your behavior is -- sex offenders offend not -- they don't stop offending out of some moral thing, it is about consequences. i'm also a mom. >> you are a mom. >> i have two kids. >> with a mom hat. >> yeah, i feel like, gosh, i would be one of those first people with the shovel, you know, going to help with the playground. my husband, i'm not big on that. but the playground. here's the thing. we as human beings, we can look at what is good for society this might help society to keep people safer because they have
some stability the sex offenders. when it comes to our kids, the visceral reaction of protecting our children, all of that research doesn't matter. it is really about -- it is terrifying to think our kids can get hurt. >> lauren, you're a mom, would you send your husband or yourself shoveling that playground? >> i would be shoveling. >> you would be shoveling? >> but here's -- but here's the point. it is really hard to defend a convicted sex offender. right? but where are they going to go? this is like not in my backyard. this is like trying to find a place to put nuclear waste. we got to do something with it. you can't just leave it sitting around. you have got to put it somewhere. so then what does the solution become? i agree of two minds, i don't want them near my children's school, but there also is a thing called the national alert registry.com, which sends you a red alert every time a sex offender moves into your neighborhood, near your school, you can sign up for this, there are ways of tracking these --
>> still, beyond red alerts in these neighborhoods and on top of a red alert, you have these playgrounds that are popping through, which means definitely these people can't move in. let me jump in, you all are sort of making this one point, this is according to janet neely, a member of the california sex offender management board, from the times. putting in parks doesn't just break up clusters. it makes it impossible for sex offenders to find housing in the whole city. it is counter productive to public safety because when you have nothing to lose, you are much more likely to commit a crime when you're rebuilding your life. you see these tent cities, you all, that are popping up, people living under bridges because they have nowhere else to go. that can't be a solution. what is? >> brooke, i think we need to go to one of these lesser populated areas like look at wyoming or montana. let's go somewhere that does not have the huge numbers of some of these inner city have. so stop investing the money in the parks and maybe build a community to put these people in in lesser residential areas. >> you're saying put them all together and send them to wyoming? >> basically. you've got to put them
somewhere, but we also got to protect the kids. paula makes great points. the yin ag and the yang with th. >> it is about rehabilitation in prison. the fact that california is spending $6 million on the pocket parks, and the prison industrial complex is a billion dollar business. can we please enact some type of reaffirmation for sex offenders when they're in prison, so when they leave prison, they're less likely to commit a sex offense and disturb and destroy a life in a community. >> it is a valid point and something that is an issue, not just california, but nationwide. paula bloom, lauren ashburn, jawn murray, and patrick henry bass, thank you all so much. now this. one again, an insider attack takes the lives of americans inside afghanistan. this comes as the president of afghanistan makes accusations against the u.s. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now.
you tell them you love them, because you never know what can happen. tomorrow is not promised to anybody. >> a town in shock after six teenagers die in the same car crash. but what about the ones who made it out alive? plus, secrecy and smoke, it's the event that usually happens once a generation. we're taking you inside the decision to elect a new pope. top of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me here on this monday. at least two american soldiers are dead, at least ten more americans wounded in what may have been another inside job in afghanistan's wardak province. happened within just the past couple of hours there in afghanistan. we're going to bring in jake tapper in washington. we're going to talk to him about that. but let's begin with the pope.
the eyes of the world, now on the vatican, the vote for the pope is one of the world's most intriguing election processes here. also, one of the most secret. tomorrow, cardinals from around the world will lock themselves inside the sistine chapel and will not come out until a new pope has been chosen. and at this point in time, it is still anyone's guess who will appear on the balcony of the vatican, revealing himself as the next head of the roman catholic church. until then, we wait and we watch. we have talked about the smoke watch, keep in mind, if it is black, no decision has been made. if it is white, we have a pope. last time there was a bit of confusion. we didn't know if the smoke was black or white. this time around, the vatican says they're now adding more chemicals to the mix. so we will know if we have a pope with that white smoke. chris cuomo is live for us in rome, and, chris, this is the biggest decision the church has to make.
but the thing that i don't think a lot of people realize is once they're inside this conclave, they cannot talk about this, there is no speaking. walk me through just a day inside the conclave. >> reporter: this situation, brooke, is so filled with majesty and ritual and history, and the anak rowist innic quality of having something so secretive, done a precise way in today's modern, everything open, everything to the media society makes it so intriguing. tough to cover because we can't find anything out. but the history and detail is very interesting. here is what we know about the conclave. in the morning they have breakfast. then a mass. prayer is very important to this process because, remember, this is not a political campaign. this is about these men deciding on what is most important for their church going forward. and then the expectation is that because all of them are eligible, all of them understand what is needed, so whom ever is picked should be the right man. they go in there, they have masks. there is only discussion in latin because it is a strict
process. the vote is done, every man must write down his vote with a specific language about him believing that this is the man who god intends to be pope. he has to walk it up, he has to hold it over his head so everyone can see the ballot. it is folded in half, so his vote is not exposed to everyone. he places it in a special urn which you can read like 15 pages about if you wanted to. and then he stares at michelangelo's last judgment, the beautiful painting and also bringing in the severity of the situation. and he goes and sits down. 115 times, right? so you get two votes in the morning. then they burn all the ballots. another majestic ceremony where they tie them up with thread, put them into the famous stove and we wait for white smoke, right? and if it is black, that means no decision. white means we have a pope. so they used to do it with wet straw, brooke. put in the wet straw, get the black smoke. dry straw, white smoke. they moved away from it. went to chemical packs. they have two stoves with chemical packs, but still
doesn't work. the smoke is still very confusing. we have to wait for the bells, but the bells are always ringing here so you have to wait for the new pope to come out. it is a confusing process, but worth it because of its magnificence to behold and also the meaning to the church. >> yeah, no, i am with you on the majesty and we all sit here so far from you waiting with bated breath whether you're a catholic or not, just watching what is unfolding over the course of the next couple of days in vatican city. i know you, chris cuomo, you talked to new york cardinal timothy dolan who is considered one of the front-runners here. tell me what he told you and just what is it like there in rome for this group of cardinals? >> reporter: look, i know cardinals all, many of us do in the media, many as new yorkers, great to see them here. but one of the reasons he deals with a very comedically, when it comes up he could be pope, he joked, whoever thinks that is smoking marijuana. tomorrow, he said i can't wait to get home, i'm running out of socks. he wants green socks because st.
patrick's day is coming. already red because of the cardinal. we only know how to cover elections where we know what's going on and everybody talks. here the only people who know what's going on, once the deliberations begin, ain't talking under a threat of excommunication, which means they'll get kicked out of the church. when cardinal dolen is joking about how do i know, how could i be pope, he's got a good reason to feel that, not to mention he comes from america, which traditionally you don't reward the catholic church, the super power, with the papacy. so it is difficult. but that being said, this is the first time ever in the history of the conclave that americans are even in the discussion. and cardinal dolan said himself, just the opportunity to be here, this is his first conclave, obviously, he's feeling great about that experience. but he's expecting to go home at the end of it. >> chris cuomo, we appreciate you there in rome. enjoy the next couple of weeks, days, however long it takes the cardinals to come up with this next pope. we appreciate you, sir. thank you. now want to tell you the
story out of afghanistan. with he know at least two american soldiers, they are dead, at least ten more americans are wounded in what may have been another inside job in afghanistan's wardak province. this happened within just the past couple of hours. you see the map here, wardak province, it is west of kabul, afghanistan's president hamid karzai exactly two weeks ago he accused the united states of destabilizing wardak province. let me say that again. he accused the u.s. of destabilizing this part of afghanistan and ordered our special forces out of there. then fast-forward to yesterday, karzai met with defense secretary chuck hagel, they had what was described as a very direct conversation after which a scheduled joint news conference was canceled, supposedly over security concerns. cnn chief washington correspondent jake tapper, anchor of the upcoming show the lead, is live for me in washington. i know you have a lot of appearance, jake, with
afghanistan. two americans dead. ten wounded. and just some odd murky statements coming out of afghanistan from president karzai. we know our troops, our men and women in afghanistan, they're risking their lives, so what should we make of all of this? >> well, it is very demoralizing for u.s. troops and their families obviously. both the physical attacks by afghan soldiers and afghan security forces, but then, of course, also the rhetorical ones from president karzai, both in terms of accusing the u.s. of colluding with the taliban, which he did, within the last couple of days, and then also as you mentioned, kicking the u.s. special forces out of wardak province, which is not far from kabul. it makes the mission more difficult, and also it really is a very difficult message being sent from president karzai to soldiers putting their lives in harm's way for the afghan people. >> you mentioned, jake, our supposed ally, karzai, basically accusing the u.s. of colluding with the taliban.
here is precisely what he said. >> translator: the bombing that took place yesterday and was carried out in the name of the taliban, these actions in fact show that the taliban are at the service of the foreigner and are not against the foreigners. these bombings show that the taliban want a longer presence of the foreigners, not a departure from afghanistan. >> we have given more than 2,000 lives to get rid of these horrible people. why would this ally of ours, again, i say supposed ally, hamid karzai, say this? >> well, he's obviously saying it for domestic consumption. the attack he's referring to, afghan lives, were lost, i don't believe, though we still are waiting for more information, don't believe any american lives were taken. karzai makes comments like this periodically aimed at his domestic audience, aimed at trying to win popular support. senior administration officials say that behind the scenes, karzai is reasonable, he never
makes comments like this, but only for domestic concem usumpt that he says things like this. he's accusing the u.s. of colluding with the taliban. in the past, he's talked about how the u.s. and the taliban are, you know, deadly enemies. he's talked about joining the taliban. there is not always a logic to what he's saying. some in the administration say doesn't really matter these comments are just for domestic consumptio consumption, doesn't have an effect on how the war is waged inside afghanistan, but others in administration officiales say it does have an effect because it makes it more difficult to keep support for the war within the united states. so he is damaging the war effort, at least when it comes to u.s. popular support according to some officials, brooke. >> jake tapper, thank you. i have to get used to not saying the situation room with wolf blitzer is next. jake tapper the lead next. we got to remind everyone. >> in one week. one week to get used to it. >> one week. i got this.
you have this? you ready? >> we'll see. >> okjake tapper, thank you. now to some of the hottest stories in a flash, rapid fire. roll it. first up, kwame kilpatrick is guilty, so says a jury in the case against the former mayor of detroit. kilpatrick convicted on a laundry list of federal charges including fraud, bribery, extortion, we're just getting word he is already behind bars. he could face up to 20 years in prison. no word yet on a date for sentencing. a family in bethlehem, pennsylvania, is being forced to evacuate their home after this giant sinkhole approximately 30 feet wide swallowed part -- there it is. swallowed part of their property. >> i was walking my dogs. when i came around the corner, i seen the big hole, the side of the house is sinking in too. it is shifting. we have cracks in the walls and
stuff. >> a break in the sewer line near this home is suspected of causing the sinkhole. just a little over a week ago, a man in florida lost his life when he fell into a sinkhole. he was in bed, asleep, when this whole thing opened up and took him in. the tsa is standing by its decision to start allowing small knives on airliners. in fact, they issued a statement minutes ago, reiterating their plan to change the rule effective april 25th. the agency says the change will allow security agents to focus on bigger threats, ie explosives. but new york senator chuck schumer says this move makes no sense. >> usually when a government agency makes some kind of ruling, even if you disagree with it, at least you see the logic. don't see any logic here. i hear outcries from passengers about this, almost no one has called my office and said, why can't i bring a sharp knife on an airplane? >> senator schumer not the only one here.
the flight attendants union, the ceo of delta, all on the record opposing the rule change. and in south africa, murder suspect and former olympian oscar pistorius want las a litt more freedom. he asked the court to be more lean gent on his bail restrictions and give him permission to travel overseas. currently he's not allowed to return to the home where the shooting happened, a passport or drink alcohol. dramatic video here, just in. this explosion caused by a back draft this is harrison, new jersey. firefighters, they were called to this apartment here, to this fire, when this building was -- this fireball eruptded. people who were several blocks away, you see whoever has the camera, they're shaking, they're at a bit of a difference away. they could hear the blast, feel the blast. five firefighters were reportedly injured. none seriously. coming up next, an suv packed with eight teenagers
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devastated family members and friends in this small town in northeast ohio today, a sunday morning suv crash claimed the lives of five boys, and a young woman who was behind the steering wheel. the suv smashed into a guardrail, flipped into an icy swamp, two boys managed to breakthrough a window. they escaped. they go and call 911. and brian todd, who is there live, just talked to one of the -- talked to one of the survivors here. listen to this. >> they came, they picked us up, we get around buckeye curve, we ride and she starts speeding. she jerked the wheel a little bit, and that's when she lost control of the whole car.
>> what was it like? >> i couldn't believe it, like, ain't nobody said nothing when we was in the motion of crashing. we couldn't do nothing. we hit the railing, the car flipped over upside down, while i'm in the car, i'm talking to my friend, buddy, he was telling me to bust the window. i was already getting to that, but i got knocked unconscious. i was in the front seat. i got hit to the back. i seen the first light, so i went to the window, and started busting the window with my elbow, and the whole time he was telling me to bust it, i was getting to that. and then after i got out, the seat belt was still around my leg -- both my legs, but the car was upside down. i had to pull myself up to get it and i lost my pants and stuff, lost them in the water, socks, shorts and t-shirt. >> you swam out. >> mm-hmm.
>> brian todd, let me bring you in. you know, in cases like these, he spoke so matter of factually. this was, what, 24 hours ago, when this happened. he seems numb. >> he seemed a little bit numb, brooke. he's only 18 years old, just trying to get his mind and heart around what happened. and the loss of all of his friends. this is where it happened. this is the swamp where the suv went in. this is about the spot where it landed. people have thrown flowers and other things down there. up here, you have a makeshift memorial, stuffed animals, notes, flowers being laid for the victims here. and people have been stopping by all day. just a short time ago, i spoke to the mother of 15-year-old kirkland boehner, he would have turned 16 this month, his mother still just trying to deal with everything that just happened. take a listen. >> i just want him to come home and he can't. no parent can understand what it's like to lose -- well, some parents can understand what it's like to lose a child, but you
don't really know it until it hits you. and he can't come home, he can't come through the door, mom, what's for dinner what did you cook, mom, i'm not going to hear none of it anymore. >> they had me identify him. i went back there, and all i seen was just tubes and blood everywhe everywhere. and after i identified him, i ran out, and i couldn't -- i just lost everything. brother of kirkland boehner.e - kyle, as you might have gathered there, was the one who had to go and identify his brother's body. two people just really can't absorb quite yet what happened, brooke. >> what about seat belts, brian todd? what do we know? >> the police said there was some seat belt usage, but that's all they're saying. we have to remember this vehicle could really only accommodate five people and it was carrying eight. and the police were saying they do know that there was some seat
belt usage. interesting that survivor, brian henry, told me he had his seat belt on at one point. he was sitting in the front. but when he got a sense they were going to crash, he took it off. he thought it would encumber him. he was one of two who made it out. >> brian todd, thank you so much, so tragic, hearts and prayers going out to friends and family members there in ohio. coming up next, we are expecting a verdict now in the trial of the so-called cannibal cop. he's accused of conspireing to kidnap, cook and eat his female victims. he never did, leaving the jury with this one question, can the fantasies he had be prosecuted? we'll take you live to new york city next. m more efficient paym. ♪ to more efficient pick-ups. ♪ wireless is limitless. [ female announcer ] from tracking the bus. ♪
a verdict could come in the trial of the so-called cannibal cop. he's this man accused of fantasizing about eating and killing women. this is a case that really centers around this one question, can your fantasies be prosecuted? let's go live to new york, where sunny hostin is standing outside this courthouse and, sunny, we talked about this trial a lot. has the jury asked for anything specific? >> reporter: you know, they have. on friday they came back and asked for transcripts from six people, four of the victims, one fbi agent, one police officer. they also, interestingly enough, asked a question about venue. brooke, that's legalese for jurisdiction, whether or not the government had jurisdiction to even bring this case, based on the facts that came out at trial. i've got to tell you, having watched so many juries myself, i was shocked that that kind of question, well, i just learned today there is a lawyer on this jury, he's sitting in seat number three and perhaps that's
what the holdup is. they have been deliberating almost 13 hours over three days. that's a long time for a case like this with only two counts. remember, casey anthony's jury was out for about 35 hours. and that was a very complicated case with high emotions. so the fact that this jury, with that lawyer on it, is still deliberating day three is odd. and, brooke, get this, they just asked for more coffee and hot tea. they're digging in. >> they are in it for a little while longer it sounds like. sunny hostin in new york. sunny, thank you. we'll come back to you if you hear anything new with regard to a possible verdict. up next, news on everyone and everything including if you want to get married these days, it will cost you a lot. also, justin bieber had a really, really bad weekend. and a slam dunk, you have to see to believe. and a new rocket doing something you've never seen before. got it all coming up. it's the power block. ing more rapidly than healthcare. by earning your degree from capella university,
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the booing crowds, the midperformance walkoff and the trip to the hospital. he was also spotted walking the streets of london with a gas mask on. he's in portugal today, hitting the stage in lisbon tonight and was supposed to be performing there tomorrow night as well. but poor ticket sales brought an abrupt end to the show, forcing bieber to cancel it completely. the sound of wedding bells could send you into debt. a new survey shows brides and grooms who got hitched last year spent more on their big day than those who braved a wedding at the beginning of the economic downturn in 2008. in fact, according to a survey on the knot.com, the average cost of a trip down the aisle, yikes. more than $28,000 to say i do. changing our clocks forward, an hour for daylight's saving doesn't just cost us the hour of crucial sleep, may cost us money as well. you may never guess exactly how much. watch this. one study says the toll on the american economy could be as
much as $434 million. alison kosik, how do they get this number? >> reporter: if you crunch that number, by the way, the $434 million, you divvy it up, it actually only amounts to $1.65 a person across the country. here's where the money comes out of. there is a study compile ed by e group called sleep better. it took into account all the things that happened, we lose an hour of sleep. forget the fact that we feel exhausted today, but there is an increased risk that you'll get hurt in the workplace, and increased risk you'll have a heart attack, and what they call cyber loafing, which means you're less productive, less alert at work, going to spend more time on line playing words with friends, doing some online shopping. and we saw certain parts of the country more impacted by this more than others. west virginia was one of the hot spots that lost a lot of money. $3.38 a person. the next three on the list, most of west virginia as well, and parts of ohio and kentucky.
those places, why there? it is coal country. you don't want coal miners losing sleep because they had the most workplace injuries because of the time change. brooke? >> our news anchors, news anchors as well need their sleep. just kidding. everyone every so often, a slam dunk comes along, it is so good, it impresses those who do not worship basketball. take a look. we'll show you this in slow mo. you have deondre jordan stunning his clippers teammates with this move, a one-handed dunk off an alley-oop pass from chris paul. that move, the icing on the cake for the clippers who ran away with the win. 129 points to the detroit pis n pistons. aspirin usage may be lowering the risk of developing deadly skin cancer in women. researchers found those who use aspirin had a 21% lower risk of developing melanoma. and according to this study, the longer they took it, the lower their risk. in the middle of the night,
they flee, some bleeding, all of them crippled with exhaustion. i'm talking about syrian refugees, fleeing the bloodshed in droves. now a dire warning. >> in december we have 3,000 refugees as an average per day. in january, we had 5,000. in february, we had 8,000. >> staggering escalation here. and it gets worse. the number could double if not triple by the end of the year if the civil war wages on. cnn's nick payton walsh is live in beirut. and, nick, you have been meeting with these refugees inside some of these camps. what do they tell you? what is life like for them? >> reporter: incredibly hard. o one has doubled in s ed iin siz last two months. they were given a plot of land to prepare with tents and before they had a chance to finish with
work, people were being given to them to live in that area. children living in plastic tents wind swept, small fires causing burns, children rushed to the hospitals there, really struggling to keep pace with a population really rocketing out of control. and, of course, sometimes the jordanian air force patrolling the border nearby swoop low over the tent camps, terrifying children who can still remember those jets, the sound of those jets brought to them inside syria, bombing by the regime, brooke. >> if the u.n. predictions are accurate about the possible tripling of refugee numbers, how much worse could it get for the people in these camps? >> reporter: not just the camps, the countries trying to receive these people as a whole are going to really struggle. they're already having a difficult time, almost at breaking point. jordan, you can feel the animosity grow. here, one in ten people living here is a syrian refugee. you can imagine what troubling those proportions would do to a country of 4 million.
jordan already here, experiencing the worst of this, 5,000 crossing that border every night. it is closest to the capital, damascus, where much of the fighting is going to intensify in the summer ahead. that one camp is struggling to hold what it's already got and the economy there reeling from the impact. so- so many people flooding in. >> nick payton walsh, thank you. a test rocket called the grasshopper unlike any rocket you've ever seen. it launches and hovers midair. this leap made it about 260 feet and hovered for some 34 seconds. the ultimate goal of the grasshopper, to make rockets that are re-useable, instead of having to burn them up when they enter and re-enter the earth's atmosphere. back after this. an an invesr be a name and not a number? scottrade. ron: i'm never alone with scottrade. i can always call or stop by my local office. they're nearby and ready to help. so when i have questions,
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proposal to ban sugary drinks in new york city starting tomorrow is not legal. mary snow has been on the story, looking at this brief that is attached -- the reasoning as far as why. mary snow, what are you learning? >> reporter: bottom line, this is a big defeat for mayor michael bloomberg. what this lawsuit was all about, beverage companies, restaurant association and others, went to court to try and block this new rule from going into effect and was supposed to go into effect tomorrow. and their argument was that the city did not have the authority to do this, that this was a decision by the board of health and that the mayor appoints members to the board of health, so therefore, they said, this was not something that went through the legislature, and that this shouldn't go through. and a judge today, as you said, has said this rule would be invalid. and this was something that, you know, i just was at a business earlier today, an independent
movie theater, this had a lot of business people very worried about how this -- this new rule would impact their business. so they are clearly seeing this as a victory and, of course, those rules were that restaurants, movie theaters, couldn't sell large sugary drinks in cups over 16 ounces. and the mayor today, and also yesterday, have been pushing forward with this, thinking this was a good idea, this was a mayor imposed a ban on smoking in restaurants and public places. he has cut down on trans-fats. he has had imposed calorie counters at restaurants. so he's made a lot of initiatives. in new york city this is something he thought would lead the way in terms of these new kind of rules. this was all about a fight against obesity. >> all about obesity. at the same time, some are saying, this is the government overreaching. we have this ruling from the judge saying this is not legal.
mary snow, thank you. mary brought up businesses here. i want to go to alison kosik at the new york stock exchange. who specifically has been against this ban all along, and does this affect, you know, stock prices today? >> reporter: the restaurant association, american beverage association, they challenged this rule saying it would be too big of a burden to really follow because it restricts how much product that they can sell. you know, talking about stock prices, talking about coca-cola and starbucks, no effect there. reality is this was too localized to affect stocks in that way. it is interesting with starbucks, actually before this ruling came out, from the court, today, starbucks came out earlier today saying, look, we're not concerned about this, we're not going to abide by this, especially since most of their drinks are made of milk, and it is up to the consumer to add that sugar. but this sort of discussion about, you know, banning the 16 ounce drinks of sugary drinks here in new york city, brooke, you know, it is really kind of
become a joke, you know, you talk to the average person on the street about it. many people would say, okay, you're banning me from having the 16 ounce soda, guess what, i'll buy two eight ounce and there you go, i've got myself a 16 ounce drink. it has been laughed at. >> so manhattanites joking about it. this is not a laughing matter when you hear what the mayor and the mayor's office has been saying. i'm sure mary snow will be looking out for some kind of response to the judge saying this is not legal. so look for mary on the situation room, alison kosik, thank you very much. now let's talk about something a lot of people have been marinating on over the last, you know, 24, 48 hours here. cnn taking a good hard look at what women want. the name of our special series focusing on women, and work, life, balance. is that an oxymoron? we'll talk about that today. a in book hnew book hits the sh called "lean in: women work and the will to lead" and just as important as what it says is who
is saying it. she is facebook chief operating officer sheryl sandberg. she makes $30 million a year, she is considered one of the most powerful women in the country. and her advice to women is this, lean in, take the initiative, seek out opportunity as opposed to leaning back and limiting options because of the family. she hits many sides of women in the workplace, including how women aren't aggressive enough. and when they are, they get negative feedback, unlike men. listen to what she said on "60 minutes" just last night. >> this is deeply personal for me. i want every little girl who someone says they're bossy, to be told instead, you have leadership skills. >> because you were told you were bossy. >> because i was told that. and because every woman i know who is in a leadership position was told that. >> joining me now, some distinct voices on talking about what women want. three ladies, we have linda
lustcom, and jjessica heron, specializes in creating flexible business opportunities for women, and we have heather armstrong, founder of duce.com, one of the first mommy blogs which reportedly has 100,000 readers a day. my goodness. heather shared intimate details from her single days to post partum depression to the recent breakup of her marriage, so we'll delve into part of that as shaping this whole story. welcome to all of you, ladies. and, jessica, i'll begin with you, going off what we heard sheryl say to nora o'donnell on cbs, were you ever told you were bossy? >> yes. i have strong opinions and i share them, so, yes, of course i was, yes. >> and when you were told you were bossy, did you take that, did you internalize it, did you think it was a bad thing? >> i think that sheryl make a very valid point is that that's generally not thought of as a great characteristic in women.
and i feltundamentally recogniz when i was told i was bossy, to become successful, i had to stop caring if other people thought i was failing, including in having the ultimate personality which meant not being bossy. >> belinda, you talked to sheryl, help us understand her overarching message when she talks about leadership and raising your hand and, you know, appreciating your core qualities when you're moving up on the ladder, so to speak, and not just saying, you know, hey, it was the right timing or i had really great people to work with. what is the crux of her message? >> i think one of the things she talked about that is very interesting is the syndrome called impostor syndrome where women who had had business success somehow think it was a fluke and like to say, it wasn't really me it was somebody else, as you said, or i got lucky, and those things have been said about sheryl. a lot of people are saying, she's only successful because she worked for google and facebook and was mentored and sponsored by great men.
which is true, by the way, of every great guy. we just don't -- successful guy, we don't point it out the whole guy, just don't point it out. i think what she's looking for is the barriers within women themselves where they don't put their hand up, when someone comes to them, says would you like to run the office, i don't know if i am right for that, can i think about it. guys are likely to say can i run that office or this project, more likely to put themselves forward. partly because as women we are sort of socialized to think we need to step back. partly it may be a biological thing. people are worried, women particularly with children are worried how do i do that, be a good mother and good wife, how does it affect the people around me. it is a complicated issue. as you see from the hostility she faced, it's also a personal and passionate issue for women. >> some say granted, she went to public school in miami, went to harvard, worked at google,
private jets, at facebook. who is this woman, do you see that at all, who is this woman to give me advice whether a young working woman, mom, balance, who is she to give me advice. heather? >> she was harvard educated and she has worked for google and has been an executive, has executive experience. she went on to admit when facebook made her the offer, she didn't think to make a counter offer, it was her husband that said wait a minute, don't take the first offer. so if she is having that much confusion, think about it speaks to a wider problem that women aren't -- women don't have not necessarily the courage, it is an engrained societal personality trait that being bossy and forward and ambitious is sometimes seen as nasty in women. >> but why? heather, when you hear jessica talking about being told that she was bossy, she embraced it, look at her now. what is it, is it taught to us
at young girls. >> it is taught to us. >> it is. >> yeah. it is. i grew up in -- >> go ahead, jessica. >> i grew up in a very -- go ahead. >> to be successful, the catch twenty two for women for you to succeed in life, which is how we want to define success as happiness, it is not enough just to be successful professionally, you also want to aspire to be the standard set by your mother, grandmother, great homemaker, great wife, great friend. to pursue one, you don't want to sacrifice the other. you might get judged all around you. if you are succeeding at work, may feel you're failing at home, if succeeding as stay at home mom, you have working women judging you and vice versa. we are nurturers, but we have to judge ourselves last. >> the judgy nature of everyone.
heather, in talking to the producers, you point out social media. everybody puts forth their best self. sometimes in cases, my kid is the smartest, look how great my husband is. that's women doing it to other women. >> yes, it is. >> well, it is women doing it to other women and society doing it to all of us. we are bombarded by these messages on facebook and blogs of diy projects going on with the stay at home mom with the child, and they don't show the mess behind them. i think the big problem here is that a lot of women and myself included, i used to think having a successful career in the family were mutually exclusive. and that concept even in 2013, that you can have a career and family, no one has it all, period. but to have -- >> thank you for that. >> to have a fulfilling career and family life, they're not mutually exclusive. that's something women need to
embrace. >> we can't all be superman, i have a tough time walking my pug three or four times a day. i bow to the stay at home moms which my mom was and moms bouncing work life. jessica, finally what is your take away. i know your atmosphere with work at stella and dot, it is the thing where working moms can work, yet you made it accessible for all of them. what's your final message to any woman watching? >> the goal is not to try to have it all, it is to try to have what matters to you most and what you're willing to consistently work for, and that you shouldn't pursue sees easy think it comes without struggle or effort. the path to your best life is with going for the things that you want and believing in yourself. to me, that's cheryl's message and it is universally appealing and applicable to all women. believe in yourself. don't judge yourself so much and don't judge others. >> and help other women.