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be connected to the murder of colorado's prison chief. we will have the developing details in moments. plus, how did this man impersonate a pilot?plane and you have got to hear this one. and how is your bracket doing? we've got one huge upset in round one of march madness. it is a very important story. it is friday, march 22nd. "starting point" begins right now. we do begin with breaking news out of the quantico, marine, base in virginia. three people shot dead there, one of them believed to be the gunman. he apparently committed suicide after a standoff with police. all of the dead believed to be marines. the news conference is set to begin in moments. right now you're looking at live pictures of where it's going to take place in virginia. what we do know is that the gunman shot one male marine
before taking a woman into another area of the base and holding himself up there. he eventually shot her, and himself. we are monitoring a news conference and will bring you more information the second we get it. the other big story we're watching, major new developments in the murder of colorado's prison chief. police in colorado taking a, quote, strong look at whether a suspect shot dead by police in texas is the same man wanted in the killing of tom clements in colorado. the suspect was gunned down after a wild chase in a car similar to the one seen leaving the home where clements was shot dead. he was shot dead after he answered his front door. cnn's ed lavandera live for us in decatur, texas. bring us up to speed on this investigation and the latest. >> hundreds of miles away from where tom clements was gunned down just a few days ago, a high-speed chase, a firefight, and now colorado investigators are here in texas trying to connect the dots.
this is how a high-speed chase across north texas ended. a black cadillac with two different colorado license plates smashed by an 18-wheeler. but the crash didn't stop the driver from getting out of the car and firing away at law enforcement officers. he was shot and killed in the firefight. >> he wasn't planning on being taken alive. i mean, that's obvious that he was trying to hurt somebody and he was trying to hurt the police. >> reporter: the chase started when a sheriff's deputy tried to pull the cadillac over on a remote stretch of texas highway. deputy james boyd was shot twice in the chest. but he was wearing a bulletproof vest, and is expected to survive. that triggered a long, high-speed chase. >> he came by me, i was say going about 100 miles an hour. had his left arm out the window and he was just shooting. he shot four times when he passed by my car parked in the median of the highway. >> reporter: the denver post quoting federal and state officials reports the suspect is 28-year-old evan spencer ebel, a parolee from the denver area.
police say he is the focus of the investigation into the murder of tom clements, the director of colorado's prison system. in a press release thursday night el paso county investigators in colorado did not deny the accuracy of the report but instead criticized the leak of the name by law enforcement was sos. >> i know there's a lot of rumors going around and people wanting to know if this is connected to the colorado shooting of the director of the prison system. we don't know that it is. or it's not. >> reporter: and in another strange twist, denver police investigators also say there's a strong connection between the driver of the cadillac in texas, and the murder of a 27-year-old pizza delivery driver last sunday afternoon. nathan leon's body was found in a remote area outside of denver. his family has struggled to figure out why anyone would want to kill a young father of three
girls, who was delivering pizzas to earn extra money to support his family. >> since sunday we've just been a total wreck and just when you think you've cried your tears and you can't cry anymore, it's all you do. >> shortly after that shoot-out here on the streets of decatur, texas, ended, those murder investigators from the two different murder cases in colorado scrambled, and have made their way down here to texas to meet with investigators. we're told by local law enforcement official here in texas that there is evidence inside that black cadillac that those investigators will be very interested to look at. >> all right. ed lavandera. thanks, ed. >> joining us now from colorado springs is county commissioner bill long. he worked with prison chief tom clements. commissioner, if i could start with some reports out of denver media. what they're reporting is that the gunman in the texas car chase was a white supremacist and a colorado parolee. did clements ever mention white supremacists in the prison to
you? is this something that he ever discussed? >> no. we did not have that conversation. >> doesn't sound like this is a possibility to you? >> absolutely. the folks that tom clements worked with over many, many years, many of them were very dangerous folks. >> based on the outpouring of emotion from colorado, we've been hearing from officials all over colorado, tom clements seems like a remarkable man. when did you last speak to him? >> i spoke to tom a couple times on tuesday. i saw tom at the state capitol early tuesday morning as he was coming out as a cabinet member and then tuesday afternoon as i was waiting for a meeting, i was in the capitol cafeteria, and tom came up to me and tom's kind of usual way, began a conversation, telling me how much he admired me, and appreciated my work on a project he and i had been working to the. and that story isn't about bill long. that's about tom clements. tom was the guy that made folks feel that he really appreciated
them. and he really did. he was a very, very genuine and compassionate individual. >> and certainly was a long career, and as you said, a lot of people over the course of his career, who could -- who could potentially want to see him dead. i mean, do you think that it has to do with his job, the likelihood that it is his job that is the source of this? >> you know, on my part it would be purely speculation that you would have to believe there's a -- it's very, very likely that it's related to his job, unfortunately. >> did he ever talk about feeling any kind of danger? >> no. he did not. you know, i don't think tom was the type of fellow that would have that conversation. or with someone like myself. he may have had that conversation with internal folks, but, i believe tom was very comfortable in his job. he was ultimate professional. so, no, he never did have that conversation at all, with me, anyway. >> he was shot as he opened his
own front door. you think there needs to be a hard look at security for people like tom clements who have spent more than 30 years, you know, running prison systems where there are clearly parolees, criminals, convicts, who may really bear ill will for people who work like this. >> you know, that's a good question. it's difficult to answer. at our courthouse we now have court shirt and i live in a very, very small community and while we do make an effort to protect folks, i think that it's next to impossible to provide 24/7 coverage on folks who may be in danger. the marine case this morning, sandy hook a few months ago, i mean i don't know how you protect everyone. in the matter that we apparently need to look at. >> bill long, thanks again for joining us. we are sorry for the loss of your colleague tom clements. next hour we're going to get more information from el paso town at the undersheriff paula pressley.
she will have the latest on the investigation and what connection there may be between the suspect in texas, and the victim. we're following new developments this morning in the battle over gun control. the national rifle association filing a lawsuit against new york state's new gun law. the nra's new york affiliate claims this law was pushed through without committee hearings or public input. safe act strengthen's the state's existing assault weapons ban by creating a statewide gun registry, uniform licensing standard, and also a seven-bullet limit in ammunition magazines. vice president joe biden not throwing in the towel on the prospect of federal gun limits. joined by newtown families and new york city michael bloomberg yesterday he vowed to revive the battle to ban assault weapons, and he had a message for lawmakers, including senate democrats who dropped the assault weapons portion of a gun regulation package. he says, think about newtown. >> this is a false choice being presented to the american people by those who are taking on our position here.
look, folks, we have a responsibility to act. a lot of the voices have to be for those beautiful babies. a lot of those voices have to be for those silenced voices. >> senate majority leader harry reid introduced a gun bill yesterday that does include expanded background checks. the senate will debate it after a two-week recess. coming up in 20 minutes we're going to speak with stephen barton, a survivor of the aurora movie theater shooting. he's working with the newtown families as part of this mayors against illegal guns. former president nicolas sarkozy under formal investigation this morning for breach of trust charges. sarkozy is accused of taking advantage of france's richest woman to help illegally fund his 2007 presidential campaign. terry arnaud joins us from paris this morning. what's the latest? >> well, it's a bit of a political -- that took us by
surprise in paris. it was about 10:00 p.m. local and announced the former president was being put under investigation. what that means is that the three charges he was facing yesterday found sufficient converging and serious clues to choose to go ahead with this formal investigation. the charges, as you've described them, are extremely serious. he's accused of having taken advantage of an ailing old lady and basically grabbing cash from her to finance his 2007 presidential campaign. what that means is, if the legal process was to go all the way, is that he could be sentenced to three years in jail, and a very hefty fine to the tune of about half a billion dollars. half a million dollars, i mean, of course. what's happening this morning is the president is clearly very upset. he denies that he did anything wrong whatsoever and is now at his home with his advisers trying to figure out what his next move is going to be.
>> all right. thierry arnaud. breaking news this morning, the three marines killed at the quantico marine base this morning. shannon travis is live right now where a news conference just wrapped up, as we say the details have been coming in by the minute. any details about the shooter or a possible motive, shannon? >> yeah. we pressed the spokesman about the motive. they wouldn't answer that at all. they say, john, that this investigation is obviously ongoing. we did get some new details about what actually happened. the identities are going to be withheld from all three marines because they're saying that they want to notify the families first. we'll get those details at least at a minimum 24 hours from now. also, we have been reporting earlier that the shooter essentially barricaded himself into a room as police were trying to surround the area that he was in. the spokesman here, the commander, colonel david maxwell is saying that they basically went and surrounded the areas
that he was in but that essentially wasn't barricaded inside there. again, we've been reporting all along that this started about 11:00 last night, closer to 10:30, and it didn't actually wrap up until about 2:30, where they actually stormed inside of this room where the shooter was at, with this woman who is also a victim, one of the victims, and the shooter himself had apparently shot himself. so that's basically what we've just heard. again, we won't hear anything about motive as of yet, because the investigation is ongoing, john. and the identities are being withheld for at least 24 hours. john? >> shannon travis in quantico, virginia, where there are three marines dead today, including the shooter. thanks, shannon. >> all right. new this morning, french national is behind bars in philadelphia after police say he bluffed his way into the cockpit of a plane by dressing ups a pilot. investigators say 61-year-old philippe gernaud was wearing a
shirt with an air france logo when the crew of the jet found him in the cockpit. police were called when he allegedly became argumentative when asked for credentials. passengers were somewhat shaken when they heard about this bizarre incident. >> that's pretty scary. and i fly every week. so, it's actually pretty concerning. >> even more bizarre, the suspect had a ticket for the flight. no word yet on how he got into the cockpit, or why. >> what a first day for march madness, the ncaa tournament right now, the first full day had a huge upset. 14th seed harvard knocking off third seed new mexico. the ivy league champs, they were undersized but it didn't matter. the crimson hitting three pointers all night capturing their first tournament victory ever in just their third appearance at the big dance. the final score, 68-62. you know, nice to see some success, finally for some harvard kids. and a big scare for gonzaga, the bulldogs holding off southern 64-68 to avoid becoming
the first one seed in history to lose to a 16 seed. other teams advancing yesterday, louisville, michigan state, michigan, st. louis, marquette, syracuse, oregon, memphis, wichita, arizona, butler, california, colorado state, and virginia commonwealth. >> so i did my bracket like i would pick stocks, right? i went and did a little bit of research, talked to a producer about the strengths of each team and not knowing really anything about basketball or the teams i picked mine like i would pick a stock portfolio. >> and that is why you are in second place and i am in second to last place in the cnn anchor pool. but i'm positioning myself for a late-inning comeback. >> it's going to be a long few weeks. ahead on "starting point," president obama paying his respects at the grave of a revered israeli leader. at least behind a poignant connection to america's own past. details in a live report. >> then cynthia faye's new film "admission" opening this weekend. but hear what co-stars told me about working with this comedy genius. you're watching "starting point."
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welcome back. president obama wrapping up a historic visit to israel and the west bank before moving on to jordan. the final leg of his middle east trip. right now the president is heading to bethlehem, visiting the church of the nativity with palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas. >> earlier he paid a visit to the grave of of former israeli prime minister yitzhak rabin where he left a meanto from american history. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is traveling with the president. she joins us from amman this morning. jess, quite a morning so far. >> it really has been, john. and good morning, christine. the president now planning to cap off the first leg of his trip by visiting one of the holiest sites in christianity, the church of the nativity in
bethlehem which commemorates, of course, the birthplace of jesus. that stop, a holy christian site, inside the palestinian west bank, less than five miles from jerusalem. it's a reminder of how many overlapping claims the world's religions have to that tiny swath of land, and a symbolically rich way for a christian u.s. president to wrap up a trip that has focused on sealing bonds with the jewish state. a trip that the white house and american and israeli officials at this point seem quite pleased with. >> you are in amman, jordan, where the president will be meeting with jordan's king abdullah. he's a very close ally of the u.s. but he is under a tremendous amount of pressure, both internally and externally. so what's on the agenda for the meetings there? >> well, the president lands here in three hours. he's going to have a meeting with king abdullah then speak briefly to the press. only one question on each side and then the two men will have a dinner. as you point out, jordan is a close u.s. ally.
the country has a peace treaty with israel. and it's also home to close to 2 million palestinians. so, it would be an important player in any peace negotiations. so that would come up and be up for discussion. but there are other more immediate issues for them right now. syria, jordan has taken in more than 400,000 syrian refugees since the conflict began. so, john, clearly an enormous interest here in ending the crisis, and preventing the use of chemical weapons. so that's a topic. and king abdullah is among the few still standing after the arab spring. but under enormous pressure here made worse when in an interview with a u.s. magazine he described his country's tribal leaders as dinosaurs. that's hasn't gone over so well here. for domestic options you can't be too cozy with an american leader. but he does need the president's support. >> jess, real quickly, what was the american memento that the president left at the grave of yitzhak rabin?
>> well, when the president was there he left stones from martin luther king jr.'s statue, the statue in washington, d.c. a hugely meaningful gesture from the first -- america's first black president, to leave some marker from america's civil rights leader, who was assassinated trying to fight for civil rights in honor of the israeli leader, yitzhak rabin, who was assassinated trying to fight for peace. it's both a symbolic way of the president saying, i deeply understand the israeli struggle, and i also deeply believe that it's worth sacrifice and hard work to continue to fight for peace. quite a way to end his trip. >> quite a way, indeed. jessica yellin, live this morning, thanks for being with us. ahead on "starting point," the nra turning its sights on a new new york gun control law. is this measure unconstitutional? we're going to get reaction from aurora shooting survivor stephen
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all right, breaking news. we're getting new details on a shooting at the quantico marine base in virginia, leaving three dead. all three are marines. the base was on lockdown earlier this morning. the gunman killing himself inside a barracks as police moved in. here's what quantico officials said in a news conference just a few moments ago. >> the shooter, an active duty marine, was pronounced dead of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound by law enforcement at the scene. two other victims, a male and female both active duty marines, were pronounced dead at the
scene. the three marines involved in this incident were all permanent personnel assigned to officers candidates school. >> quantico officials say the identity of the shooter and his victims will be withheld for at least 24 hours while next of kin are notified. now we have a developing story. really disturbing developing story in coastal in a coastal georgia town. a 13-month-old boy in a stroller fatally shot in the face. his mother claims that two boys approached them, showed a gun and demanded money. the investigation is going into its second day now and cnn's nick valencia is in brunswick, georgia. you have new details this morning. >> we do, good morning, john. i just got off the phone with the public information officer for the brunswick police department. he tells me we should expect a press conference later this morning. he also tells me that police investigators are checking attendance records at area schools. as you mention these suspects are young boys. one described between the age of 13 and 15.
the other as young as 10. now they're cross-referencing who was missing that day in local area schools and hoping of getting any leads. now what we do know happened is right behind me here at this corner thursday morning at about 9:00 a.m., a mother was strolling along on her morning walk, pushing her 13-month-old in a stroller when she was approached by these two young boys. i spoke with the city manager from brunswick city. he says there's no clear motive. but yesterday just hours after her baby was pronounced dead the mother gave a very emotional interview to our affiliate waws. >> why? why my little one? you know. they should have just taken the pocketbook and go. they said we're going to kill you if you don't give your money. i said i swear i don't have any. i put my arms around my baby and he shot me and then he shot my baby right in the head. >> now, what's further confusing
investigators is that there were no other quitnesses. the only account of what happened is coming from the mother. currently there is a manhunt under way for the two boys. there is also a $10,000 reward being offered. john? >> all right, nick valencia in brunswick, georgia. thank you for that report. we are joined here by cnn contributor chris john farley, senior editorial director of digital features at the "wall street journal" and editor of the speak easy blog just reporting the story out of brunswick georgia, this 13-month-old baby allegedly apparently killed. it just sounds awful but it seems like we need a lot more details, too. >> it's heart-wrenching. seems like they don't have the suspects. it's difficult to even watch and listen to that. >> this is one of those stories that's very emotional. you want to know more. you want to know details before you can start giving opinions about what's happening. it's something we have to wait and see. wait for the details to come out. but certainly your heart goes out to everyone involved in the situation. >> very early stages of the investigation. and we heard that as nick reported, that they're
canvassing the local schools to find out what the attendance records were to find out who these kids who she says shot her child are. now we've got this sort of daunting cleanup in western canada. 100 vehicles piled up on the main highway between edmonton and calgary. metal mashed all over the place, dozens of people hurt. we've got paula newton in ottawa. it's hard to believe no one was killed here. investigators saying it was wild weather and also high speed involved in the chain reaction. tell us more. >> you're dealing with zero visibility, and basically there wasn't a highway here. this was a skating rink. what ended up happening was they had a 100-vehicle pileup. he said 100 people injured. they had to send buses to this area to triage people in order to make sure they could be treated on the scene. i'm sure this helped keep down the number of vehicles. if you can imagine in the middle of i guess it's a spring blizzard having to go car to car on that highway looking for people that were injured or in
trouble. believe me it's been a bad, bad day throughout western canada. they were lucky, i mean the city is still trying to clean up today. they say it is basically wreckage strewn all over this highway. it will take them days to clean up but they are thankful that only one seems to have been seriously injured. i think i speak for a lot of people from the rockies to the east coast, u.s. to canada, will be happy to see the backside of this winter weather. >> in spring. paula newton very glad no one was seriously injured. >> wild weather certainly appeared to be everywhere right now, extreme drought, extreme flooding, deadly tornadoes. what is behind these big swings and what is behind this giant snow mess we seem to be on perpetually now? jennifer delgado is in atlanta with a weather check for us. >> hi, guys. you're right. we are talking about a big change in our day-to-day weather. this is in direct effect. we know this is happening over the last 100 years we've seen temperatures actually rising 1.3 degrees. that includes land, as well as
ocean. and what this is doing, it's having an effect. it's melting ice. this is leading to higher sea levels, as well as the atmosphere is now holding more moisture. and that is leading, of course, to more rainfall, and then changes in the jet stream pattern. now, as we move over to our next graphic we want to talk about how this is affecting the day-to-day weather. and what we're seeing the most evidence for. well, let's talk about heat waves. this time last year, we saw temperatures running about 30 degrees above average. right now we're cold. i think we have some video of heat waves to kind of give you an idea of yeah, you see the sun shooining. what we're dealing wit are big ridges. nothing really can get through there. you don't see the precipitation or the clouds coming through to cool things off. the other one that we're showing the greatest evidence for is coastal flooding. now a lot of people kind of think that, what about superstorm sandy. did that have an effect with the coastal flooding? we can't say for sure. but what we can tell you is with global warming and the warming
temperatures, this is allowing the sea level to rise, and that is leading to the greater coastal flooding like the video you just saw as well as the storm sung. we can't say whether or not superstorm sandy was affected by the global warming but we can tell you this, that it did have an effect on the coastal region. also want to point out that for extreme precipitation, with the warmer temperatures, this allows for more of that moisture out there. and then the other side we're talking about severe droughts. when you're dealing with droughts, the jetstream basically can't do its job, and that's when we start to see those conditions happening. we get these long periods and of course that has a big economic impact. what we have lesser evidence for, with global warming is hurricanes and tornadoes. because these are smaller scale events. i know it's very complicated but the reality is, it's happening, and it's having an effect on our day-to-day weather. >> jennifer delgado, thanks to you. that a very serious weather story. a less than serious weather story is a lawsuit being filed by an ohio prosecutor.
essentially trying to sue punxsutawney phil, the groundhog, for his wrong forecast for the winter right now. he's suing him for misrepresentation of early spring, and an unclassified felony and against the peace and dignity of the state of ohio. and this ohio lawyer is actually calling for the death penalty on passenger tawny phil which seems extreme. >> it seems a little extreme. but that presentation on the relationship between climate change and what's going on is one of the best i've seen on any news network. but what it comes down to is what the scientists have predicted is exactly what's happening. we're going to have more drier weather in the southwest, and more precipitation in the northeast, and that's what we're seeing. not to step on the punxsutawney phil story. obama, everyone thought climate change bill was dead but obama did put it in the state of the union and there's some talk in congress that if you can get a big grand bargain that perhaps there are elements in that that's going to address climate
change. but it's hard. nobody wants to put a price on carbon. >> we've got a story out of southern california. teenage girl in southern california survives a scene right out of a horror movie. she's cowering in a closet while three burglars invade her house. 15-year-old doyin oladipupo called 911, ran into her parents' walk-in closet when the alarm system went off and she was home alone. so the emergency operator telling the frightened girl, don't say a word. after she heard the criminal's voices just inches away from doyin as she hid behind the clothes. >> bring the bucket over here. >> okay, don't talk. >> bring it over here. >> i don't know how i did it honestly because when i think about it now, my heart just starts beating. >> police arrived shortly, and after that they arrested three teen suspects in a stolen car in the driveway. the heroic high school student was not physically harmed. boy she kept her cool, didn't she? this morning, more on the nra's lawsuit against the state of new york's new gun law.
it says it's unconstitutional. stephen barton is a survivor of the aurora movie theater shooting. he works with the newtown family as part of his work mayors against illegal guns. >> thanks for having me. >> first of all the idea that the nra is now fighting i guess it's not a surprise that the nra would be fighting back against new york. what's your reaction? >> i mean, like you said, not a surprise, but i mean historically assault weapons bans have been held up in similar laws as new york enacted has been held up as constitutional by the courts. >> stephen you were in a meeting yesterday with the vice president, correct? >> that's correct. >> and the vice president was meeting with mayor michael bloomberg, also survivors of newtown. essentially vowing to keep this fight on for the assault weapons ban. that's what we heard from him publicly. do you think there's going to be any chance that this assault weapons ban will get through congress. behind the scene was it more discouraged? what was the discussion like? >> not at all. the vice president was being
realistic about the chances of this particular piece of legislation passing. as president obama said during the state of the union speech these families, these people who have been affected most personally by gun violence at least deserve a vote on the floor of the senate. we hope we'll get that at least by amendment by tacking on senator feinstein's ban to the general legislation. >> really almost two very different worlds in america right now about gun violence. there are people who tell me the phrase gun violence isn't even a legitimate phrase. you know, that it's people violence and guns are a consumer product. here you -- you're in this, you're talking about this, because you are a survivor of, of an attack with, with a weapon. do you see these two world views and do you see them moving to the at all with what we've watched in this process so far? >> i mean, these two worlds i hear all the time, guns kill people, people kill people. but the truth is people with guns kill people. and at an alarming rate in this country. over 30 americans are murdered every single day with guns. and so there are these kind of
polar opposite sides but there definitely is middle ground and you look at the polling, you look at nine in ten americans supporting background checks for all gun sales, seven in ten nra members supporting the same. so, you know, we have to cut through the ideology and just work together to get these well-deserved measures on the floor of our congress. >> i know you don't live in colorado, you were biking through. that's why you were in that theater that night. >> right. >> colorado has now passed this fairly stringent gun law. you obviously follow this issue pretty closely. is that what we're moving towards a state by state solution where states are going to pass like colorado and new york and we'll have this patchwork and then hopefully it will bubble up to the federal level at some point? >> historically gun laws have always been a patchwork of state laws that, you know, don't cover everything. but this is a national problem that applies to a national solution. you look at the state level, states go beyond federal laws that require background checks for handguns for example.
9 domestic violence homicide rate in those states is lower than other states. suicide drops, as well. so i mean, states are laboratories for federal legislation. we can see what works. so i really do hope, as you say, that this bubbles up to the federal level. because it will save lives. >> stephen barton, aurora shooting survivor. nice to see you again. >> ahead on "starting point" a bracket buster in the very first round of march madness. we will have the new standings in our bleacher report. >> and tina fey's new movie "admission" opens this week. john sat down with two of her co-stars. i'm a conservative investor. but that doesn't mean i don't want to make money. i love making money. i try to be smart with my investments. i also try to keep my costs down. what's your plan? ishares. low cost and tax efficient. find out why nine out of ten large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing.
just one day into march madness and brackets are busted everywhere. thanks to the mighty crimson of harvard beating new mexico. andy scholes joins us now with the beacher report. hey, andy. >> good morning, guys. i'm in the same boat as everyone else who picked new mexico to beat harvard. this was such a big upset that president obama, who went to harvard, even picked new mexico to lose this game in his bracket. but this is a perfect example of why it's called march madness. the crimson knocked down threes all game and hit the clutch shots down the stretch to get
their first-ever ncaa tournament win. they move on to play arizona in round three. after last night's upset less than 1% of more than 8 million brackets filled out on espn are still perfect. one person's bracket who wasn't busted by harvard is the crimson's most famous hoops alum jeremy lin. he tweeted this pick after the win saying yes, harvard wins, ha, ha, ha, i told you. almost a bigger upset than new mexico. gonzaga nearly became the first top seed to lose to a 16 seed. this game was tied with four minutes to go. the zags closed the game on a 10-4 run. they will play wichita state in round three. top seeded louisville moved on and will play colorado state in round two. the other two top seeds will look to join them today. indiana takes on james madison while kansas goes up against western kentucky. right now number four in the lineup on bleacherreport.com. marquette trailed davidson by
five points with 40 seconds to go. they hit a couple threes and vander blue takes this inbound all the way for the game-winning lay-up with one second left. golden eagles avoid the upset. we've got 16 more games on tap today. and my bracket couldn't get any worse. so, i don't know what i'm going to look forward to today. >> i'm sure it's better than mine. andy scholes, thank you so much. >> did you pick harvard? >> of course i didn't. who would pick harvard? >> this has been getting better and better for years. this is just really inevitable that they were going to do something, make some noise in the tournament. >> world domination inevitable. >> ahead on "starting point" college admissions not just competitive for students. continue in faye's new movie takes a hilarious look at what it's like for the admissions officers themselves. getting some of the scoop from her co-stars. r ] if she keeps serving up sneezes... [ sneezing ] she may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec®.
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>> the horror of princeton falling to number two. so this is a film that takes place sort of during the college admissions process. now, it was aa long time for me, but i'm still scarred by the college admissions process. where is the had you moumor in admissions? >> with this guy. >> the humor is really in the competition, i suppose, between the two ladies who want to take over my job as the director of admissions. >> clarence, we're going to be back on top. we're going to make that happen, by working together, right, portia? >> absolutely. >> as a mother myself, i know the importance of teamwork. >> and i am not a mother, but i know the importance of it too. can't go it alone. >> i have heard during the filming of this, that it was hard to get through without getting cracked up.
>> he was. >> i -- i don't remember that, but i was just trying not to be fired and honored to be in such an "a" list movie for a "d" list actor. >> tina fey, all the buzz. tremendous energy on film and tv when we see her. what is it like when you put it together. >> well, she's not that funny or anything, so we just try to fill in the gaps. she's great, obviously highly intelligent and so easy to work with. it was a great, fun experience all the way around. >> many of us saw you in "lincoln," the film, which was wonderful. and many of us watch you constantly in reruns of "e.r." both pretty serious dramas, what was it like to be a comedy?
>> it was a relief. listen, for the rest of my life i had carry a great deal of personal fulfillment and great deal of, you know -- very proud of the work on both e.r. and in stevens masterpiece lincoln, no question about it. really fun to have fun and "lincoln" was great fun. but to have levity in what i was doing. >> in the subject of careers, wallace, i'm sure i will indulge you like every other person has indulged you. you played one of the iconic villains from "the princess bride." >> you made your decision. >> i came australia, and it is entire entirely colonized by criminals. and i do not trust you. >> you have a dizzying
intellect. >> having played such an iconic role, a blessing, curse? >> i suppose it's nice that people in hospitals or nursing homes are watching your work and enjoying it, and their pain is alleviating it. >> i think your demographic is a little younger. >> it's nice that people have had a nice moment out of that. i guess. but it's odd for me. >> we are grateful for both your past work and the continuing work are you both doing. before i let you go, let me ask you about the college admissions process, having been part of the film and studied the dark underbelly. what's your advice to students who are headed to college who would like to apply? >> if you meet a wonderful
teacher, that will be very wonderful for you. and you may meet them at a prestigious college or a college that has absolutely no prestige. completely meaningless. >> if i may quote something from the film, just be yourself. good, right? >> exactly. exactly. >> just be yourself, christine. good luck with that. >> people spending all of this money, trying to have their kid be the perfect admissions candidate. >> gotten perfect s.a.t.s and 6'8", then be yourself. you will get admitted, right? is amount of salt you are eating killing you? we are eating too much sodium, and we're paying a high price. more on a developing story out of quantico, virginia. a deadly shooting leaves three marines dead.
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good morning, everyone. i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. soledad has the day off. breaking news at the quantico marine base in virginia. three are dead. we're live on the scene with the latest. new details on the ambush murder of colorado's prison chief. may be closer to knowing who killed tom clements and why. details in a moment. are you eating too much salt? an eye-popping study says we may need to cut back on sodium, or else. late-night wars, and we're talking to jimmy kimmel about
the rumors that leno may be getting the boot. friday, march 22nd. "starting point" begins right now. a great team here today. we have washington correspondent for "the new yorker" and chris john farley of digital features of "the wall street journal" and editor of speak easy blog. no one at harvard winning last night, but thank you for joining us. >> i'm still glad they won. >> a big upset. breaking news to follow. i u.s. marine opening fire on fellow marines at the quantico military base in virginia. three people dead, among them the shooter. a staff member at the base officer candidate school. we are live from quantico to get up to speed. >> reporter: hey there, christine. we got a statement, and i want to start with this from the pentagon. pentagon press secretary george little referring to the defense
secretary, chuck hagel. i'll read it off to you. earlier this morning the secretary was saddened to learn of the shootings at marine corps base quantico. this tragedy as well as the tragedy in nevada earlier this week took the lives of marine who's volunteered to serve their nation. his heart and prayers are with them and their families. he believes that the legendary strength of the united states marine corps will ensure they are forever remembered. let's bring up to speed of a press conference short time ago. all three marines. two men, one was a woman. we're being told that identities will be withheld right now, christina, at least 24 hours, pending family notification. we pressed the spokesman at the base about motive. what possibly happened? that's also unclear, penning the
ve investigation. did these three know each other? they all three were staff members at the officer candidate school? did they know each other? officials are not telling us anything about that. we can assume that they did. but, again, we know that the shooter, first shot the first male, then went over to a nearby barracks, but not too far from where the first shooting happened and then shot himself and the woman that we're talking about. again, those are the details that we have so far. we're standing by for more developments. christine. >> clearly the investigation focusing on motive and what relationship, if any, is between the three. developing story. new details that may help solve the murder of colorado's prison chief. colorado police are in texas at the scene of a police shoot-out that left a possible suspect in tom clements' dead. we are live in texas. >> reporter: good morning, don.
investigators from colorado have come here to the town of deca r decatur, texas, looking into not one, but two murders and the possible connection to a deadly shoot-out that happened here yesterday on the streets of decatur, texas, a high-speed chase that ended in a violent fire fight. this is how a-high-speed chase across north texas ended. a black cadillac with two different colorado license plates, smashed by an 18-wheeler, but the crash didn't stop the driver from getting out of the car and firing away at law enforcement officers. he was shot and killed in the fire fight. >> he wasn't planning on being taken alive. that's obvious. he was trying to hurt somebody, hurt the police. >> reporter: the chase started when a sheriff's deputy tried to pull the cadillac over on a remote stretch of texas highway. deputy james boyd shot twice in the chest, but he was wearing a bulletproof vest and is expected to survive. that triggered a long high-speed chase. >> came by me, he was probably
running about 100 miles an hour, had his left arm out of the window and just shooting. shot four times when he passed by my car parked in the median of the highway. >> reporter: the denver post is reporting that the suspect is 28-year-old evan spencer evil from the denver area. is he the focus of the investigation into the murder of tom clements, director of colorado's prison system. in a press release thursday night. el paso county investigators did not deny the accuracy of the report, but instead criticized the leak of evan evil's name. >> people want to know if this is connected to the colorado shooting of the director of the prison system. we don't know that it is. or if it's not. >> and in another strange twist, denver police investigators also say there is a strong connection between the driver of the
cadillac in texas and the murder of a 27-year-old pizza delivery driver last sunday afternoon. nathan leon's body found in a remote area outside of denver. his family has struggled to figure out why anyone would want to kill a young father of three girls who was delivering pizzas to earn extra money to support his family. >> since sunday, we've been a total wreck. just when you think you have cried your tears and you can't cry anymore, that's all you do. >> reporter: and just hours after that high-speed chase came to an end here in texas and that suspect had died, southeast investigators from two different murder cases on colorado scrambled to get on airplanes to fly down here. we're told by a local law enforcement official that there is evidence in the black cadillac that those investigators will be very interested in looking at. >> edlavandera, thank you.
>> and joining us now is the undersecretary fr und undersecretary of the sheriff's department in decatur, texas. do you believe this is connected to the murder of tom clements? >> we do believe there is a connection. we had investigators pretty much on a plane. >> so this man are you calling the focus of your investigation, you believe the suspect's name is evan able. what is being reported. and there are denver media reports that this man was involved in a white supremacist gang inside prison. any information on this? >> we have received information that he is a parolee and was identified as a gang member.
in the prison system. again, that is information that we're receiving from department of corrections. >> do we know what interaction he may have had, if any, with tom clements? or if he was working on behalf of someone else? if this was a hit, a grudge? any idea why? >> that's obviously information and questions that we are going to have to answer here in the future. at this point, what we are trying to do is take a look at the evidence, go where the evidence leads us. that's why we have investigators in texas there is evidence in that vehicle that will be of interest to us as well as compared that evidence to evidence we have here at the scene of the murder of tom clements. >> all right. thank you very much, under sheriff of el paso, count. beth be best of luck. the national rifle association filing a lawsuit against new york state's new gun laws. the nra new york affiliate
claims the law was pushed through without committee hearings or public input. it strengthened the state's existing weapons ban by creating a state gun registry, and a uniform licensing standard and seven-bullet limit in magazines. hillary clinton, rested and ready for one of her first public appearances, will speak next month at the women of the world summit. she has attended every year since is began three years ago. more speeches in the pipeline. she has signed up with an agent that handles the speaking circuit. >> and another 30 days before the next speech and everyone starts asking her if she is running for president. >> how much is she getting? i heard like around $200,000. >> that's per speech? >> that's not bad. what does her husband get? >> he gets a lot more. ex-presidents get a lot more. >> it is close to a million,
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nativity with mahmoud abbas. >> he played a visit to ta grav and left a rock, left on the gravesite. and we are joined from am ajord. >> that part of the heritage to the gravesite of the president. bringing stones from the martin luther king memorial, paying tribute to the connection. and the president tried to push to restart the peace process in the united states. here is a little bit of a footnote of the trip to bethlehem, not only gives him a chance to talk to president abbas, back and forth between prime minister netanyahu and a symbolic visit to the church of the nativity, and talk a little bit, and palestinians will be happy with an odd twist. because of a duststorm, he to
motorcade. he was going to use a helicopter, but he to use the motorcade which means he has to drive by the concrete barrier, go through some of the security measures that the israelis say are necessary to protect settlers in the west bank and the palestinians des pdespise. >> he's going from one diplomatic sensitive area to another. where are you in jordan. facing a whole series of issues. what does the president want to get out of the meeting? >> a couple of keys. number one, the long-standing u.s. relationship between jordan and the united states. he wants to thanks king abdullah and ask what he can do to help. encourage political reform. he wants to compare notes about the middle east peace conversation. >> we just lost john king in amman. one of the top issues they will be assessing, the conflict in
syria, where there is just reports of chaos and the u.s. now saying they see no evidence that chemical weapons were used. the situation not getting better. >> a disagreement between the israelis, and they were -- from the interviews jessica yellin has, we understand chemical weapons were used. and the u.s. saying no proof of that, a major issue obama said it's a game changer if assad uses chemical weapons and the u.s. has to be very careful they have accurate information on that. the pressure they have militarily if they do. >> people are still dying every day. chemical weapons or no. >> that's what we get into the debate, what kind of munitions were used. we treat chemical weapons that are used and people in syria who are killed probably might not see such a difference. if we should intervene no matter what. >> we'll continue this trip on "starting point."
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welcome back. i'm christine romans watching your money. dow has turned around after the cyprus government says they are in "hard negotiations" with the imf and european central bank about the $13 billion bailout. they face a monday deadline. a big day for blackberry. the z10 goes on sale today. expectations high. $200, going head-to-head with the iphone and galaxy. the operating systems of iphone and samsung make up over 70% of the market. blackberry, 3%. the future of the company rides on what the people think about what they think about the z10.
a choice of lot of corporations. they have thousands of employees who have this device. >> the galaxy, that would only get me to switch from the iphone. >> i don't want to interrupt the discussion right now, but a major trending story. the star of groundhog day. not bill murray, but pu punxsutawney phil is being sued by a prosecutor. the charge? misrepresentation of an early spring. joining us by telephone, i believe tongue firm until cheek, michael moser, prosecutor in butler county, ohio. you are suing. please explain the justification. >> this is an indictment. kral charge against punxsutawney phil. we're sick and tired of winter here and old phil let us down. >> have you a sense of motive in
this? what possible justification could he have for misrepresenting the weather, sir? >> in pennsylvania, i think they just want to laugh at us, so we're trying to have the last half. there's an old saying that prosecutors can indict a cheese burger if they want to. well, we're changing all that. we can indict a groundhog. >> starting earlier on the food chain. >> absolutely. when you consider the indictment, we think it's ground-breaking litigation. >> i think you are probably right. what have you heard for the defense team for phil. how are they going to counter the charges? >> their defense as ian it, he doesn't know his rear end from the hole in the ground. so they are pleading ignorance. >> i have to ask. are you actually asking for the death penalty here. you are saying that the result should be this poor groundhog is killed. isn't that harsh? >> the response has been very positive here in butler county. most people around here want a piece of phil.
i'm getting recipes. people are firing up their grills. they are really sick and tired of winter and they want to take it out on punxsutawney phil. >> you will be hearing from the people for ethical treatment of animals and humane society soon, sir. >> i will get letters, i have no doubt. what about the dangerous precedent for weather forecasters and stock pickers all over the world? >> i think it's wonderful. it's about time for a change, and, in fact, how about a new -- perhaps a female? how about punxsutawney phyllis? i'm looking for some significant changes the way this whole approach is taken. >> sheryl sandberg will getting in touch with you, no doubt, on the gender of punxsutawney phil. thank you for joining us. you are a county prosecutor. no doubt in a few years, this man will be a senator from ohio and then vice president. this is the first step on the road to a bright political
career. >> a case with four legs, it's got traction. >> thank you so much for joining us. >> this man is funny. thank you so much. ahead on "starting point." a new study shows you are probably eating too much salt and it will kill you. and jimmy fallon, will he take over "the tonight show?" what does jimmy kimmel have to say about that? >> how about the prosecutor in butler county? >> it makes perfect sense. jimmy fallon is doing a great job. >> doesn't hold back his feelings about jay leno. we will have jake tapper's interview, next. you are watching "starting point." ♪ i am stuck on band-aid brand ♪
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welcome back to "starting point." toddlers in the u.s. to adults around the world, many of russ eating too much salt and it's killing us, a just-released study found more than 2 million people died in 2010 from heart disease, caused by eating too much sodium. chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta has a breakdown of where you will find high-salt foods in the grocery store. >> when it comes to sodium, we simply eat too much. about 4 grams per day as an adult and we really need about half that, about 2 grams per day. there's a study that came out that says if you get down to 2 grams per day, we could save 150,000 lives we aper year. frozen food, has a lot of sodium, mainly because u.s. a
good preservetive. also canned foods. a lot of parents will go to canned foods. the problem, you get about 950 grams. almost a gram of sodium just in something like this. far too much for an adult and for most kids as well. >> sanjay joins us w. even more alarming about the canned foods are prepackaged foods for toddlers. >> you expect that to be ideal. i'm parent of small children. prepackaged for toddlers, must meet some specific dietary guideline. not the case. in the study, they basically went and tested them. in testing over 1,000 products, they found 75% had too much sodium. more than 210 milligrams per serving for kids. and more concerning was several of them had more than three times as much sodium as necessary. again, in one serving. i'll point out, the concern as
you might guess, guys, that could this impact the heart later on? but also what you find, toddlers develop a taste for this. not only do they eat a lot of sodium now, they skraif it more so later on in life. >> sticks with you forever. sanjay, numbers are staggering, 2 million people a year die from heart disease, largely caused by salt intake. why isn't there more of an effort to reduce this? >> some of this is about money. about preservatives in resourced, poor countries. it's a cheap preservetive. to give food longer shelf life. in the united states, it's a lot more about processed foods. we eat a lot of processed foods. people say, okay, i'm going to cut down on the sprinkling of assault. that certainly helps. that's not the big concern. you have to read labels. it's amazing. some of the soups, sauces, can have more than a day's worth of sodium in one single serving. so it's a little bit of the consumer being aware of this.
>> great advice to walk around the edges. don't go in the middle. the fresh produce -- walk around the edges, stay out of the middle aisles if you can. >> eat real food. >> eat real food. thank you, sanjay. parents in chicago, hoping to learn how closing dozens of schools will better educate their schools. they are being closed to redirect funds to chicago's welcoming schools initiative. the buildings were underutilized. and parents and teachers say the closures are disproportionately affecting minority students. chicago's watchdog says not so fast to drop saturday mail. the postal service legally must deliver the mail six days a week, that opinion could mean lawsuits to keep saturday mail around for a while. if the plan goes through this summer, you would get package and express wail six days a week, just not letters. "the tonight show" will
return to new york. >> jake tapper sat down with jimmy kimmel and got his take on the latest nbc drama. >> hey, christine and john, one place where success and job security do not always go hand in hand, it's fair to say it's late night television. take a reported decision to kick jay leno to the curb and make jimmy fallon the new host of "the tonight show" in 2014. it could not be better for jimmy kimmel whose show is competing directly with leno and david letterman. and as he does best to rise above the late-night drama, don't think kimmel is not primed for battle. late-night ratings roulette is upon us, with more than 10 million viewers at stake and tens of millions in network advertising on the line. >> things once thought to be extinct could be brought back from the dead. so there is hope for nbc. it could turn around.
>> reporter: but at the peacock network, apparently makes moves to replace jay leno with jimmy fallon. abc's jimmy kimmel, fresh from his new year's move to 11:35, remains unscathed. >> obviously, nbc is looking to move on, because they did it once already. this would be the second time this has happened. so i mean, it makes perfect sense and jimmy fallon is doing a great job. >> and jay leno? let's say kimmel's respect for jay leno knows bounds many. >> you have had tough things to say about jay leno. >> my mother told me to stop. i have diarrhea of the mouth, and if i'm asked, i go on and on and on. my favorite host of all time is david letterman, who i would choose to watch if i was choosing to watch somebody. i would choose -- i know i would over watching myself.
>> and while kimmel says all three shows can be successful, he's not taking it easy on his competitors. kimmel's show expanded, launching it's own music channel on youtube. >> let's talk about the late-night shake up with howard kurtz. and lawyorne ashburn. the late-night drama continues. >> nb bnch krnchnbc, you know, don't like jay leno, so everybody saying get him off the stage. bring in jimmy fallon, but the fact is, he's still number one and brings in viewers. >> he was funny once a couple of years ago. >> a couple of decades ago? >> the people have spoken yes in the ratens, but there is this feeling among younger folks that he is not that funny and twitter proved it. remember that time when jay leno
was funny? oh, wait. that never happened. carry on. weren't angry tweets on twitter, but this feeling -- >> wait a second. younger people liked conan and they chose sides. that didn't work out when conan took over the "tonight show." the secret is a broad audience, not just people who are 22. >> it used to be leno, letterman, the two people, same ages, competing against each other, now it's fallon/kimmel. it's their turn. i like jay, but this is a guy who on his vacation goes and does standup. enough. enough. time to cede to the next generation. >> the start date of the new show, 2014. september of 2014. a long time to go. how much can we have this much drama, before it has an impact?
>> i wallowed in the drama last time, but the problem is, nbc would probably like to get rid of jay tomorrow, because he's taking shots at the network in his monologue, which johnny carson did also. >> the snakes of st. patrick that they should come as nbc executives and driving people away many. >> we have a clip of jay leno making fun of nbc. let's hear it. >> before we get started, i have to talk about -- you know, the whole legend of st. patrick, right? he drove all the snakes out of ireland and came into the united states and became nbc executives. a fascinating story. >> a lot better than i did. >> if nbc did dump leno early, they have to pay him a trunk load of money. >> he's like that clown doll that you hit and it keeps coming back up, and you hit it again
and it keeps coming back up. >> 21 years has been doing this. where is the gratitude from nbc? one comment in the paper, he made them a gazillion dollars. >> maybe nbc could put him on in 10:00. >> i think that was tried already. i don't think we can do that. >> bring the discussion down. when -- what will it take for a nonwhite male to ever break into late-night tv. >> arsenio. he had a successful run. >> how long ago was that? >> in '92. during the clinton years. >> okay. how about tina fey on late night. >> the important thing, not just in front of the camera, it's also behind the cameras, writing staff, the producing team. all for the most part white males. with a few women sprinkled in. >> one of the reasons "the daily show" is so successful.
he is taking a three-month leave. who will fill in? >> there is a problem all across television, not just late night. >> it's glaring when put the four images up there. >> a lot of white men, for sure. >> late night tina fey. >> read the papers today, nbc was considering her for the late night show after the new jimmy fallon show, but not available because she's a super mega film star. and the name they are kicking around is beth meyers who does the news on "saturday night live," extremely funny. >> more fun than speculating who will run in 2016? >> we could talk about the sequester, but, during the selma march, they teamed up to fight hatred. but now they are looking back to see where society is now. we have the story ahead.
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rights march. we have some amazing memories, shared with chris cuomo. >> selma was different. they were ready to kill, burn, bomb, destroy. to ask artists to go in was a whole different game. >> reporter: harry belafonte remembers the selma to montgomery marches. 50 miles had to be covered. the real obstacle was hate. not long after 600 marchers began on sunday, march 7th, police brutally beat them. driving them back to selma. >> when bloody sunday happened, and dr. king decided to march again after it, what was the mood? >> the mood was anger, rebellious. the question is what do we do in the face of this kind of rage? the bottom line was that we will go back as o as necessary.
>> reporter: belafonte, enlisted by dr. king to bring artists into the movement, convinced the likes of joan baez, paul newman, marlon brando. but one of the first calls was to old friend and supporte eer y bennett. >> i didn't want to do it but then he told me what was going down. when blacks were burned, gasoline thrown on them, and they were burned. when i said that, i said i'll go with you. >> and that black/white divide, white faces would see your face. what do you think they thought about you? >> that you are a god damned traitor. there was a spirit. we decided we would march right through it, no matter what. >> reporter: after a federal court affirmed the right to march against the government and national guard troops ordered to protect marchers, protesters grew from 600 to 25,000.
to ral oath crowd, the artists came forth. but one problem. >> we found out we didn't have a stage and somebody came up with a -- a funeral parlor. and how many caskets were there? >> i think the number were 50 to 80 caskets. >> reporter: 50 to 80 coffins? >> yes. >> reporter: how did you feel the stage was built on coffins? >> well, it was different. >> to say the least. yet, singing on top of coffins e marches and they succeeded. later that august, president johnson signed the voting rights act of 1965. >> this purpose is not to divide. >> reporter: change that bennett could feel in the place that scared him the most. >> many years later, i went back to selma, as an engagement, and
i was pretty concerned about it, how i would be treated. it changed that area. much more human, accepting about good shows. it made me feel like it worked, the march worked. >> reporter: the work is unfinished, and he wonders if today's black celebrities will take up the cause. you talk about the next generation and the current generation where is the new harry belafonte? >> never in thistory of this country, have there been morsel ebb rids more numerous than today and nev have black people have been less spoken for by a community of celebrities. who have done nothing.
they are so worried about financial harvests, they forgot there was ever a mission. >> his mission is clear. the march is in the past, but the movement for fairness under law for all, for justice, must continue. >> civil rights is a constant. it's with you all the time. every society, every millennium, every decade needs this vigilant watchers of the democratic process. >> and that is clearly shared so much incredible history. and such a direct commendation from harry belafonte jr. about the current crop of celebrities. what was he saying? >> one of the reasons i wanted to do this, it reminds us how great they are among their artistry. harry's point is, not to condemn so much african-american celebrities today, but to make them realize their power and to make them realize how important
it is to be looking for opportunities to forward the cause of justice and he believes that celebrities today have more sway than ever. he's hoping they take up the mantle. >> it's not just on black celeb result -- celebrities. here is my stance. >> had it stayed monochromatic in the '60s, they wouldn't have made progress. harry, go out, make us more did i vdiverse, not just about us, but about everybody. >> dr. king knew to call him first, tony bennett. >> it's interesting, for so many of these guys, borne out of his own personal experience. harry, dealt with lots of different types of bias. tony bennett, while in the war,
1942 infantryman, brought a black friend to a cafeteria and got demoted, someone literally ripped the stripes off his arms and said we don't like the company you keep. it was so wafl painful to him. and artists are different than ordinary people. we see through lines that people ordinarily draw for themselves that fostered a commitment from the artistry community to help the civil rights movement. >> that's a really great piece, and thanks, chris. >> up next, a former bartender, does his best to save lives in syria that when he can wambach on "starting point." [ male announcer ] this is bob,
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