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that's it for me this hour. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in washington. remember, you can always follow what's going on in north korea, follow me @wolfblitzer. that's it for now. the news continues next on cnn. "outfront" next, breaking news. intelligence shows that north korea has nuclear capable warheads. live to seoul we'll go. and the president caught himself in a celebrity trap. jay z slams obama in a new wrap. and the motor city mad man comes out front. i'll ask ted nugent if he lost the battle against gun control. let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, we have breaking news. north korea may now be able to launch a nuclear attack. today we learned that the pentagon's intelligence arm has assessed with "moderate
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confidence" that north korea has the ability to fire nuclear weapons delivered by ballistic missiles. chris lawrence is working his sources at the pentagon tonight. we have a reporter in seoul. of course, it's tomorrow morning there. chris, we have known for a while that north korea had nuclear capabilities and we knew that they had missiles. but what we didn't know was that they could actually put those two things together. what are you learning? >> i can tell you that the announcement of this potential capability came as a complete shock to folks in the pentagon who were shocked to hear this mention in an open hearing on capitol hill today, erin. basically, congressman referenced this intelligence assessment that said that with a moderate degree of certainty, they felt that north korea had developed a capability to develop nuclear weapons with the capability to deliver them via ballistic missiles. what we have just learned is
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that the administration will be releasing a statement very shortly clarifying some of these remarks. it will basically say that their assessment is that north korea has not developed and tested a fully functional nuclear warhead. so, again, the difference, nuclear weapons versus nuclear warheads and the assessment is going to be that north korea has not yet fully tested and developed a nuclear warhead small enough to fit on the end of a missile. we've also learned there is another aspect of this that this information was never meant become public. officials are telling us that what congressman lambborn read from was mistakingly identified as unclassified. it was plenty to be classified. it was marked as unclassified and that's what he read from in the open hearing. >> which could be significant. as we go to new soeoul, i want o
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share a statement we're getting from an administration official to cnn saying we do not believe the north koreans have tested these types of weapons. and they have not been fully developed. so obviously trying to talk a little bit around this. but how alarming is this development given where you are tonight? >> well, very alarming if it does deem to be you accurate. it suggests the steps by north korea has an impact on south korea. the nation's capital of south korea, seoul, is one hour away from the dmz, one hour south. south korea feels they have the biggest bulls eye on it. and the incremental steps, the smaller reports towards north korea stepping toward a nuclear warhead is very alarming here in south korea. and it supports a shift in public sentiment which is alarming to america. the latest polls, national polls of how south koreans feel about
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arming themselves with nuclear weapons, south korea itself having nuclear weapons, it shifted upwards. 60% to 70% of south core evens now feel they should have their own nuclear weapons program. that's very concerning to america. south korea arms itself with nuclear weapons. then we have a potential regional arms race. because japan will want to respond. china will then want to respond. and that, erin, is a very, very concerning thing to america. >> extremely. extremely concerning. let me just ask you, chris, as the administration official here that is trying to clarify this situation but is getting so much attention. you know, in terms of saying we don't believe they tested the weapons. they're not fully developed. so, yeah, they may have a nuclear part and the missile part but we're maybe trying to back off a little bit this whole idea that we're able -- that they're able to put them together. what's your take on that and why they would be saying that if what was read from today was obviously a formal document just
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classified? >> i think here's the bottom line, erin. i think fears that they right now today can marry a nuclear warhead on top of a missile and end it? any sort of immediate range direction, that is not going to happen. i don't think what this is saying, they don't have that cape ac capability but they progressed and you see that reflected in the u.s. rushing a new missile defense stoystem to guam and beefing up the missile defense system in alaska that protects the u.s. mainland, too. moves we've seen in the past few weeks which may be reflected in an overall feeling that north korea has progressed further than initially thought. >> obviously calling into question the intelligence of the west and the united states really had. chris lawrence, thank you very much. chris lawrence reporting from the pentagon with that breaking news.
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"outfront" tonight, gordon chang. we'll be joined by retired general cedric layton in a moment. let me start with you. this report that kcame out toda saying that north korea can put nuclear material into a missile. tonight an administration official to cnn trying to say that they don't believe the weapons have been tested and they haven't been fully developed. but how significant is this possible development? >> we knew all along that they would be able to do this at some point. i mean if it's not now, it will be a year from now. so you know, when we look at this, this is a predictable development. of course, it's significant. marrying a nuclear device to a long range missile means they can reach out and cause great devastation and even worse. you know, they can threaten to do this. and that's why i think that year's crisis is worse than before. yeah, there is a lot of internal reasons peculiar to the regime but also because they now have more capability. so they now feel they can
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threaten more. next year the crisis will be worse than this year. >> let me bring in retired colonel cedric layton. the national security adviser said a few weeks ago, to quote him, the united states will not accept north korea as a nuclear state nor will we stand by while they seek to develop a nuclear arms missile that can target the united states. so this is a possible development that we're learning about tonight mean that north korea crossed what many call a red line and that the united states has to act? >> it's possible. i think the united states is going to wait for there to be test firings or actual actions that in terms of actually deploying these weapons. once that happens, then they will have crossed that red line. but until that happens, i think the administration is going to stand back. >> adds mgs is talking to a lot of cia officials on the ground.
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george little disputed that when he came on this program. the fact is that we said they can't get a weapon. and now it seems that they may be further along in that process than we actually thought. is the intelligence that the united states has good enough? >> we have a lack of sources in the human intelligence community, in other words, spying. technical intelligence is pretty good. but you cannot gauge a person's thought process, their intentions and the other artful forms of intelligence just through technical means alone. and that's what our significant weakness is, judging intentions and ability to analyze the intentions is not 100%. >> right. it's difficult. the obama administration has seemed to have, by the way, a very consistent response to the threats coming out of north korea. but here is what it is. here's president obama just today and some of his team recently. want to play it so everyone understand what's i mean about
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consistency. >> now's the time for north korea to end the kind of belligerent approach. >> be bellicose rhetoric. >> bell bellicose rhetoric. >> bellicose rhetoric. >> besides bell he koes and belligerent getting more use in the english language than they had in a long time, is this the only response that the u.s. has to call it bellicose and belligerent and hope that it stops? >> yeah. i think the obama administration is really caught flatfooted because they don't know what to do. you know, they talk about trying to go to beijing and getting the chinese to help. but you know they came out with those really terrible words. and everyone said he was rebuking north korea. but what he was really doing was stinging attack on the united states as people's daily made
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clear on tuesday. so, you know, the chinese aren't going to help us. i don't think the people in washington have a clue as to what to do. because this is not the way they thought the world was going to work. and so right now i think that they're trying to figure out how they're going to craft the strategy. and they've got to think of one pretty quickly. our allies in the region are becoming unnerved by this and, you know, the south koreans, they want their own bomb. >> all right. thank you both very much. again, as we're reporting here, the very latest that we have is that south korea may have the ability to have a missile and put it -- and nuclear material and put those two things together. the u.s. military apparently shocked that this was a classified document and revealed today. and now others in the administration are trying to back down off a little bit and say they don't believe the north koreans tested or fully developed a nuclear warhead. we'll follow the situation tonight. but still to come, jay z responds to critics of his cuba trip with a new rap song. one of his targets, the president. the mitch mcconnell
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wiretapping case. we know how a liberal magazine got ahold of the private recordings. and then ted nugent, he said he'll own the debate on gun control. he's going to come "outfront" live. and our shoutout for tonight, sharks. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. it's lots of things. all waking up. ♪ becoming part of the global phenomenon we call the internet of everything. ♪ trees will talk to networks will talk to scientists about climate change. cars will talk to road sensors will talk to stoplights about traffic efficiency. the ambulance will talk to patient records
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does jay z still have obama's back? jay z. took to the mike today releasing a title "open letter" in which he was questioned the legality of his recent frip tri cuba. he also says he had a conversation about the trip with the president of the united states.
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>> after that song was released, the white house was very quick to distance itself suddenly from jay z's trip. >> i guess nothing surrounds treasury. because treasury offers and gives licenses for travel as you know and the white house has nothing to do with it. >> so are you saying he did not, the president did not have a conversation with jay z? >> i'm absolutely saying the white house to the president on down had anybody to do with anybody's travel to cuba. that is something that treasury handles. >> there is something about the look on jay's face that is priceless there. "outfront" tonight, ari fleisher, can you imagine how jay felt? you're like oh, please. elsie kranderson also joins us. this made a top story. the headline is jay z raps about cuba trip. these two guys are friends.
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they've been building a friendship. jay z helped the president raise money for the white house. is jay z throwing the president under the bus here by implying that if their conversations about this came out, the president would be in trouble? >> no. it's a rap song. you know that upsets me most is this isn't one of jay z's best. he has done better story telling in the past. that is the only thing i'm most upset about. the fact that we're getting upset over what is referenced in a rap song perplexes me. in people want to look into jay z's lyrics and his entire chronology of songs, he talks about things like poverty, growing up poor. he talks about police brutality. he talks about being pulled over and driving while black. that's a whole bunch of things that jay z is talking about. so why we focus on this one throw away line in this mediocre rap song is beyond xprepcomprehn to me. >> it is an interesting line that he puts in there.
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and it does sort of feed into some will say and to a broader narrative that some tried to create about the president and john mccain in 2008 ran an ad talking about president obama being the biggest celebrity, talking about who he hung out with. here's that. >> he's the biggest celebrity in the world. but is he ready to lead? >> now they try to say that was a bad thing. obviously, people liked him being the biggest celebrity in the world. the editor wrote what republicans didn't consider is being a celebrity is a priceless asset. celebrities are gods of our pop culturement we let them play by different rules. we read about them in magazines and watch them on tv. we obsess about them and identify them. 230 members of the house don't have a chance against the president let alone a celebrity. is he right that the president benefits from all this? >> well, it's interesting historically. people who are governors, senators, congressman, they don't get to hang out with
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famous people too much. but as soon as they become president, they're magnets. it was true in the clinton white house. you had all kinds of hollywood people come through. once george bush came through, the hollywood people had no interest in coming through. a lot of athletes did. they would come into the white house. it was well known around ba baseba baseball, for example, can you come and come around the west wing and meet the president. now we're back to hollywood coming through the white house. it is part of americana. it is part of the presidency to be able to rub shoulders from the big walks of life. the issue to me is consistency though. i think there is a hypocrisy with the president. he loves going after the rich except when he is raising money with him. jay z and all of his friends and fundraisers. he likes to criticize the life of the rich and people who fly in corporate jets. does he krcriticize those who f on hollywood jets? no.
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i wish he would be consistent. >> the president, by the way, he had justin timberlake for a party this week. >> you know, first of all, i just can't believe ari is going to start this history with the white house and hollywood and the clinton administration. we can go all the way back to, you know, shirley temple meeting with elanor roosevelt. this has been going on for decades and decades and decades. frank sinatra was at the white house with president reagan so much that people wrote the white house hoping to get tickets to a frank sinatra concert. this isn't about republican or democrat. this is about the white house and the presidency and hollywood, regardless who have is in it, always gravitated to it. >> speaking of hypocrisy, what about the issue of cancelling the white house tours when justin timberlake comes for a party at the white house the same week? >> i don't know the details who have is paying for it. i don't know the details as to whether or not this was justin timberlake's idea. i don't know if it was for a fund-raiser. i know it was for an organization.
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i can't really speak to that. all i really know is that justin timb timberlake has the number one album for the last three weeks and is not unusable of the president regardless of which period of time he happens to be with to host celebrities, to host athletes, to bring them in when they won championships. there is nothing unusual. >> all right. thanks very much to both of you. we appreciate it. and let us know what you think, everybody, on that one. still to come, new develop ams on the mitch mcconnell wiretapping case. how a liberal magazine got its hands on a new report. and a new bar by from mexico. is it racist? we investigate it. and this police department is well funded. we take a ride with dubai 5-0. everyone's retirement dream is different;
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our third story "outfront," secret recordings. who might have been behind the leaked audiotapes of mitch mcconnell and his campaign strategy against ashley judd? you may remember on tuesday we told ut fbi got involved in the case after mcconnell said his louisville office had been bugged. jim acosta is "outfront" with the latest. >> reporter: it could be a break in a campaign who done it? according to an official with the local democratic party in louisville, two members of the liberal group progress kentucky were behind the secret recording of a strategy session as mip mcconnell's re-election headquarters in february. >> they were there. they overheard this salacious
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conference and decided to record it. >> jacob conway tells cnn he's not sure why members in the group were there in the first place but he told them they were right outside the room. he adds that their account of what they heard matches the recording revealed by left leaning magazine "mother jones." >> i assume most of you have played the game whack a mole. >> the recording features mcconnell and his campaign team going through the research on potential opponents including actress ashley judd who since declined to run. >> jesse can go in a chapter and verse from her book." >> they were so excited about what they had, they couldn't wait to share the news. >> one of them told me about it and then they told me about it the same weekend that it happened. and i didn't really pay any other mind to it until the "mother jones" story broke wlchlt i heard the "mother jones" tape, it was the exact
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same thing that they told me was discussed, i put two and two together. >> as it turns out the same group named by done way was singled out by mcconnell at a news conference tuesday. >> last month my wife's ethnicity was attacked by a left wing group in kentucky and then parentally they also bugged my headquarters. >> reporter: in response to the mcconnell campaign's allegation that the headquarters was bugged, the fbi has launched an investigation. a source close to the campaign says agents pulled the building surveillance footage. >> they were here for about an hour. they checked out the office. they took a lot of pictures. they examined our personal devices. and they, i believe they swept the office. >> reporter: retired fbi agent says the case will likely hinge on whether the conversation could be overheard. >> the investigation is going to have to determine if the individuals are being truthful that they overheard this conversation out in the hallway or near the elevator and the people in the meeting were speaking in such a loud manner
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that they had no trouble not only hearing it but recording it. >> reporter: conway says he believe the two activists used a smart phone to make the recording, not a bug. >> this is not watergate as our senior senator described it. >> as for progress, cnn tried to contact the group. the mcconnell campaign says it's disturbed by the allegations of the group's involvement but have no further comment. and democratic party officials in louisville insist they have nothing to do with the recording. erin? >> all right. thank you, jim. still to come, one of the most vocal gun advocates in the country comes "outfront." i'll ask ted nugent about background checks and whether the government is going to confiscate guns. plus, cops say a suspect who went on a slashing and stabbing spree was looking to wear the faces of his victims. and tonight's shoutout, man versus shark. just take a look at this video of a fisherman in hawaii reeling in a tuna. he gets the fish close to the
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welcome back to the second half of "outfront." we start the second half with stories we care about, where we focus on our reporting from the front lines. we are learning some disturbing new details about dylan quick. that is the man accused of stabbing 14 people at a texas college. according to court documents, quick told police that he fantasized about cutting people's faces off and wearing them as masks. he said the fantasies started when he was 8 years old and he told investigators he also fantasized about cannibalism. dr. reid maloy tells us that those types of fantasies are extremely rare even among suspects in violent crimes with multiple victims. the group anonymous is getting involved in the case of ri it. a parsons, a canadian teen who committed suicide after being
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allegedly gang raped and bullied. anonymous warned police to take immediate legal action or else they would release the names of the teens that they say committed the rape. sherry bane, a friend of her mother, told us the family doesn't support vigilante justice. she says the situation began with bullying so it makes no sense to use that same type of behavior on others. nissan, honda and toyota are recalling 3.4 million vehicles worldwi worldwide, the reason, defective air bags. most of the vehicles are from 2000 to 2003. the problem is the air bags deploy with too much pressure and, therefore, hurt you. jeff bartlett says it's a huge recall but unlikely to have a long term effect on the companies' reputations. it's been 616 days sin the united states lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? well, as usual, not very much. but today first time jobless claims fell by more than economists expected which helps cower the dow and s&p 500 to a
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record close. and now our fourth story "outfront," bring on the gun debate. so the senate voted 68-31 to overcome a republican-led filibuster and will begin the most significant debate on new gun legislation in this country in nearly two decades. the vote comes a day after a bipartisan deal to expand background checks on purchases at gun shows and on the internet. it does, though, exclude personal transfers of guns. now the nra rejected the proposal saying it would unfairly infringe upon the second amendment rights of law abiding gun owners. "outfront" tonight, ted new jent, the rapper has more than 200 guns and is one of the nra's most vocal supporters. ted, i real i didn't remember appreciate you having come on. there are a lot of things i want to talk to you about. i want to start with the background checks in that bill in washington. it includes gun shows. it includes people buying guns online. but it doesn't have a background check if you buy a gun from a friend or a family member. do you support the bill?
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>> i do not. thank you for speaking so clearly, erin. i value every word you say out here in the wilderness. no, i don't support the bill. i agree with the 90 plus percent of the law enforcement heroes out there, the real warriors on the street that reject this as a feel good measure. right now it's only a single 1% that are rejected with the current back ground checks. so it's a problem that just doesn't exist. we don't need to fix something that doesn't need fixing. so i reject it out of hand as a feel good measure that's not going to accomplish anything. it won't stop any shootings, that's for sure. >> so you're saying if we enforce the background checks we have better now, you would stop more people from buying guns and that is the way to go instead of passing broader background checks? >> erin, i like the sound of that. you've been doing your home work. yeah, absolutely. it's unanimous in law enforcement, in the court systems out there. even chicago, the murder capital that is a gun-free zone with the
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strictest gun control laws in america. they don't prosecute those that are stopped from buying guns. and of the 76,000 that were denied because of clerical errors or positive-negative that were finally ok'd, only 44 of those 76,000 turned out to be someone who were properly denied fire arms and they weren't prosecuted. so we need to enforce the laws. this has been we the people, the families that are members of the national rifle association, this is our mondantra all along. we know who the monsters are. we know who the felons are. the court system let out on to our streets. why are we going after all the people that are causing no problems like me and like the nra members and all the hundreds of millions of american gun owners and why are we ignoring the felons? >> well, another thing though that -- this doesn't capture is the issue of people with mental health. i want to ask you about that. you know, here in new york state
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they're trying to deal with it, ted, as you're probably aware. there are gun laws passed this year that other states may copy. it allows the states to confiscate a weapon from people under the following circumstances, one, if you're suffering from mental illness, two, if you've been convicted of a violent felony offense which is what you referred to and if the court issued a order of protection against you. so if you're a husband threatening your wife or children. so i want to focus in on this. any of those cases, cases in which you wouldn't support the government taking away someone's gun? after all, james holmes and adam lanza were both mentally ill in some way. >> sure. no, those categories, as you stated them, would be universally supported by people who want to keep guns out of dangerous people's hands. unfortunately, the bureaucracy out there that would put ted kennedy on the no fly list over and over and over again which i happen to support, but that was the mistake. he shouldn't have been on the no
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fly list. the bureaucracy won't accurately or responsibly or legally identify someone with mental issues. and you know how easy it is for feuding lovers or feuding friends or feuding neighbors to issue a protection order against someone falsely. so i don't trust the court system. and i sure don't trust the bureaucracies to ascertain who is dangerous and who's not. they have actually categorized the heroes of the military, erin, warriors returning home putting their lives on the line, they've generalized and categorized some of these heroes with no evidence as being mentally unstable who can't have a second amendment that they fought and died to protect. so you see this incredibly dangerous slippery slope whether you give that kind of control to bureaucrats that have blown that kind of control over and over again? >> well, but they're also trying to do is rely on doctors. you look at james holmes who killed those people in the colorado movie theater, right? i mean his psychiatrist had tried to reach out to law
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enforcement. if there had been a background check and that had shown up, he might not have been able to get a gun. that would have saved lives. >> well, yeah. i would trust you and me to make that decision because in every instance, virginia tech, columbine, tucson, aurora, certainly sandy hook, everybody family members, school mates, co-workers, neighbors, people who encountered every one of these maniacs have -- had alerted people in the past over and over again but nobody did anything. so that's the kind of evidence that we should act upon. but not just a random actization. we have to be careful. when it is documented -- >> but that was a doctor. which is what this law would do. >> i would go with that. >> sure. multiple evidence like that, i would support. i think everybody would support that. every one of those nut jobs should have been in a cage a long time before they committed they're heinous acts. >> so do you think the government, if there is documentation of background checks, i know you don't
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necessarily agree with expanding them. i get that. but there is a background check. there is documentation of that background check. this bill says that that would not create a national registry of guns. do you agree? >> again, the concept is sound. but i just don't trust the government. i don't trust the government that claims it's going to reduce the budget while they increase the budget. a government that sends f-16s -- and here's one for you, erin. i think we can both agree we need to stop gun trafficking. do you gr we that? >> stop gun trafficking? yes. >> gun -- illegal gun trafficking. then you would support my recommendation that we arrest eric holder. >> well, i don't support that. >> well -- >> i have to admit i don't support that. >> he supported trafficking. i do. >> all right. well, that's -- that's how you stop gun trafficking. >> i mean that's your right in america to have that opinion.
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>> well, you want to stop gun trafficking, let's go after the guy that is trafficking guns and that is eric holder. >> all right. well, we'll leave it there, ted. i would love to continue. they've been trying to have me wrap for a couple minutes. i hope you can come back on and we can continue our conversation. thanks again, sir. >> i love you madly. >> all right. thank you. and still to come, the new barbie doll, is it racist? we have all the details. and they blast the latest victoria's campaign. what is it about the new angel that upset so many fans? it's just her way. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications,
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we're back with tonight's outer circle. we reach out to our sources around the world and i would be so remiss tonight if i didn't begin in dubai where a new high end addition to the police patrol is causing quite a stir. a lamborghini avantator. that shows how much i know about driving a lamborghini. earlier i asked if the new luxury patrol car is going to help with safety or if it's really all about show? >> erin, drivers here in the uae
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are being extra careful these days. plenty of people around here live life in the fast lane. but now the police can definitely keep up with them. the force in dubai added the lamborghini to the fleet. it is capable of speeds over 200 miles an hour, and get this, ust costs more than half a million dollars wlchlt you see cars like this, you might think thaey're r show. in this case, you're probably right. the super car won't be there to fight crime. instead, it will be kept in the city's tourist areas to show how classy dubai is. erin? >> all right. thank you very much. i have learned it is avaentador. now we go to jerusalem for five women detained for worshipping at the western wall. the defense was wearing prayer shaulz and performing religious rich ulz th rich u rituals that are reserved for
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men. >> erin this is certainly not the first time this has happened to the group who calls itself women of the wall. they have been trying for more than two decades to be able to go down to the western wall, the holiest site for jews to pray, and pray the way they want to pray. they say this is about the discrimination. but the israeli courts in 2003, stuck by the side of traditionalists. now what the courts had decided in 2003 is the women could go somewhere on the property and pray the way they like. but the women say that simply not enough. they feel this is discriminatory. but now the prime minister and the president of israel is starting to weigh in. the prime minister forming a task force looking for a solution on this very long conflict. and the women say they simply will not give up their fight. they say it's a fight for equality. erin? >> thank you, sarah. now let's check in with anderson. >> erin, yeah, obviously we have a lot more on this breaking
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news. the new report that could alter what we know about north korea's ability to militarize its nuclear capabilities. can they put a nuclear device on the missiles that north korea is pointing toward u.s. territories and allies? we go to the pentagon and south korea for live reports and talk to the man who disclosed the information on a hearing in capitol hill, the kangmcongress that did that. and the storm system that was in the west is dropping to the south, leaving a path of destruction. at least one person is dead. we'll tell where you it is headed and what to expect. those stories and a 360 exclusive. a father has his two young kids kidnapped by their own mother and taken to egypt. he's been fighting for 12 years now to get them back. the courts carry no weight in egyptment we have his story ahead and a lot more. >> all right, we'll see you in a few minutes. >> and now our fifth story "outfront." barbie, stylish or offensive? there is a new collection of dolls hitting the store shelves that are called the barbie dolls
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of the world. this one is from australia. you might be able to see a koala bear looking like it is eating this poor woman. at any rate, it is not this one but the one from mexico that has people angry. the doll comes in their words, dressed for a fabulous fiesta in her vibrant pink dress with rough wil ruffles and lace. she also comes with a chihuahua. and that has some people calling out the company for being racially insensitive. mattel stands by the doll saying mexico barbie is one of the 100 barbies of the world. it has a country inspired outfit and passport and animal. is the doll offensive or just creative? "outfront" tonight, our contributors. okay. great to have all of you with us. let me start with you, stephanie. i was thinking about this today. i, you know, didn't have barbies growing up. a lot of the dolls are pretty compelling. critics say look at the bright pink ribbons and dress and that
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chihuahua really offended people. is this offensive or colorful? >> how do i say this in a word, erin? yes. yes, it is. a mexican doll with a chihuahua? i believe the indian barbie has a monkey. really, people? really? like where do we get these dolls, at stereotypes are us? and having a passport, really, is there like a little sheriff joe arpaio doll asking for her papers? like really? come on. >> those are the ken doll equivalents. dean, she brings up -- let me show the china doll. this is china. by the way, it was all sold out. the reason i say that is because the panda was stolen off this one. it comes with the panda. i just want to say it's very stereotypical for all of them. >> it's true. they all have a passport. >> and a very high slit. >> it's like home shopping club now on cnn. this is not the only one with a passport, the mexican one. second, the only thing i would say about the mexican barbie, the chihuahua to me is
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intriguing. i know a lot of mexicans. they don't carry chihuahuas with them. the only people i know with chihuahuas are paris hilton. the doll's goal is to teach other culture. it's a starting point. it's not the only point. i would buy it for my young nieces, let them play with it. >> reihan, does -- okay, i picked the australian one because she's white. you can't say this is racially insensitive but it is hugely culturally stereotypical. she's wearing a khaki skirt and outback shirt, for god's sake. barbies are all about stereotypical with their skinny little legs and big boobs. they always have been. >> let me drop some knowledge on "outfront" viewers. interesting and new information. the last three quarters, barbie sales have been plummeting. mattel has been doing decently because of popular lines like monster high but also american girl dolls. they're super educational, whereas barbie -- >> they tell the story of a girl
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from a country comes to the u.s. >> right. barbie is teaching you to have extremely bizarro proportions and wear super high heels and -- >> talking about the waist. >> exactly. they're trying to figure out what's the thing american girl is doing. another thing is a lot of young girls now are into mobile device play. the parents are spending money on ipads, iphones, super educational stuff. i actually feel we're in a moment where kids have lost patience with barbies. i think they're into -- >> stephanie, that probably would make you happy. can you imagine if barbie finally went away? >> oh, please. i would like to take this moment on national tv to say thank you, barbie, thank you for a lifetime of eating disorders and a bad body image. thanks a lot. >> would it make you happier if the mexican doll was fat? is that really the concern, stephanie? or is it the stereotypes of the doll? that's what i'm trying to get at. are these racially insensitive or are they teaching tools? to me they're the beginning of a teaching tool. i wish there was a palestinian
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doll so people could learn about culture in a normal way. >> there are some offensive things you could think of with any -- >> of course you can. >> you could have border patrol agent, another doll with that. that would be wrong. >> it's a horrible teaching tool that teaches racism and also a bad body image. >> look, mexico is a country, it's not just about the psycho drama we have about different immigrant groups. mexico is a fast growing flourishing country with a vibrant country. chihuahuas are a mexican breed of dog. the idea that it's offensive to me is silly. barbies are offensive because they're lame. >> that should be the immigration reform bill. do you have your chihuahua? then you can't get in, then. >> it's not a mexican-american doll. it's a doll from mexico which is -- it's a fast growing, vibrant country and it's not about our psycho drama. it's about a real place. >> thanks to all three of you. we're keeping the china barbie
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because the panda was stolen and toys "r" us said we couldn't return it. i now have my first barbie. every day we take a look outside the day's top stories for the "outfront" outtake. tonight, victoria's secret has been criticized a lot over the years with many people saying that their ads, catalogs annul fashion shows highlight just one kind of woman. but after years of criticism, the lingerie company has finally decided to become more inclusive and showcase more diversity. one of their models now has short hair. sorry. i try to deliver with a straight face. victoria's secret model carli cut her hair off two days before last year's victoria's secret runway show. back then the company forced her to wear $75,000 worth of hair extensions to hide her new hairdo. no joke. not anymore. for this year's victoria's secret very sexy campaign, she will be allowed to go au naturel, so to speak, and become the company's first short-haired
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angel. there has been huge reaction to the decision and a lot of it disappointingly negative with a lot of people saying short hair just isn't sexy. i think the whole thing is rather ridiculous mostly because victoria's secret is so behind the times. there have been so many famous females cutting their hair in the past few years, do you read "us weekly." this is the company's way of playing catch-up with the trend. no matter what an underwear company says or does, i seriously doubt it will inspire people to drastically change their look. they're not blazing any trails here. of course, i could be wrong. i guess you just have to stay tuned to cnn -- wow, i'm sorry, anderson. to find out. the essay is next. it's downright rude. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much. i appreciate it. i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money? if your bank takes more money than a stranger, you need an ally.
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