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as we now know o'neil castro faces multiple charges involving kidnapping and rape of those young women. i'm brooke baldwin thanks for being with me at the cnn headquarters in atlanta. now to washington, jake tapper and "the lead" starts now. the verdict is in in philadelphia. the doctor has been found guilty of horrific crimes. i'm jake tapper, and this is "the lead." the national lead. born alive. breathing crying and cruelly killed a jury found by a aphiladelphia abortion provider. the man now destined for a life behind bars at the very least. we'll go right to the courtroom for all the latest. in other national news, well, it's not paranoia if the irs is really out to get you. the agency apparently singled out conservative groups, enemies of the president, but the president says he first learn birthday it friday when the story broke. and those taxmen seen headed under the bus. nd the money lead.
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the cozy relationship between banks and the credit agencies that rate them. a key factor of the financial meltdown in 2008, experts say. senator al franken says it's still going on and he's our guest. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. the verdict is in. dr. kermit gosnell is guilty of three counts of first-degree murder for the deaths of babies born alive in his abortion clinic in philadelphia. also he was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter for the death of a woman who came to him as an abortion, 21 counts of aborting 24 weeks or older and 211 counts of violation of informed consent. whenever we discuss this case, we have to warn viewers that the details are brewsome. gosnell ran a cruel abortion clinic until the feds raided it in 2010 on violations of drug
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violations. prosecutors gathered evidenced that showed gosnell snipped the spinal cords of infants during the abortions he was performing. joining me cnn legal analyst sunny hostin. sunny, you reported that the prosecutor wassi sob sobbing as the verdict was read. what was gosnell's reaction? rncht >> reporter: initially he appeared to not have a reaction. i stayed after and i did look at dr. gosnell, and he appeared in my view to be shocked. he was upset. he sort of let out a sigh and was shaking his hand back and forth. certainly after the jury read the verdict and as you mentioned it was an extensive verdict, he was, in my view, pretty shocked. >> sunny, this was a really graphic case, a lot of evidence that was very difficult to get through. how did that affect the jurors do you think? >> reporter: you know, i think that the jury knew what they
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were getting into. i mean, there was voir dire in this case. but i've seen some of the evidence in this case, some of the photographs that were part of the grand jury report, and i've seen a lot of gruesome things having been a federal prosecutor and covering many, many cases. and i can't unsee those pictures, and i would imagine that the jury had a tough time with it. this is one of the more gruesome cases that i've seen, and, jake, i'm not only a lawyer, i'm a mother. and seeing some of the photos of the babies, seeing some of the photos of the incisions on the back of their necks with their spinal cords snipped, it was tough. it was difficult. and if it was difficult for me, someone used to seeing these kinds of things, i can only imagine how difficult it may have been for the jury. >> sunny, thank you so much. also joining me from outside the courtroom right now is dr. gosnell's attorney, jack mcmahon. mr. mcmahon, thanks for joining us. were you surprised by the
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verdict? >> i mean, we were disappointed. we put on a vigorous defense. we think it went well for us in the courtroom. but the jury spoke, and we respect the jury's verdict. i mean, there was -- it started with eight murder kaubt counts in this case and five of them were not guilty, three were guilty. obviously the jury took their job very seriously. they were conscientious. it was an emotional case, and i respect their verdict. they worked very, very hard. the prosecution worked hard. the defense worked hard. and the jury worked hard. that's our system and that's the way it goes. >> obviously he was not found guilty of everything xharged with, but it was pretty close. it was a prosecution sweep. do you intend on appealing? >> well, it's too early to tell right now. we still have a penalty phase scheduled for next tuesday. before that goes on, i really
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wouldn't comment on that. >> do you think that the odds are dr. gosnell may get the death penalty? >> again, there's a gag order as far as the -- i can talk about generalities but as far as that concern, i'd rather not comment on that right now. obviously we -- if that comes to it, we'll mount the defense to that. but that's next tuesday. we're just dealing with today, today. >> lastly, sir, do you blame the media and the focus on this among some conservatives for the verdict, or is this just what was in the courtroom was in the courtroom? >> no, i don't blame that. i mean, there was obviously a tremendous amount of that everywhere. i mean, nobody was really rooting for dr. gosnell, i can tell you that. but, again, i don't believe that had the effect on the jury. this jury was conscientious. they cared. they spent a lot of time. and, again, by the nature of the verdict, that is, finding not guilty of some, guilty of other
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counts, they obviously thought about the evidence, were conscientious. that's all we can expect out of our jury system. >> lastly, sir, do you think it would help your case to put dr. gosnell on the stand for the sentencing phase? >> that i can't comment on, again, since it's an open matter that's to be resolved. i really don't feel comfortable commenting on that based on the gag order. >> all right, thank you so much, sir. appreciate your time. let's bring in two people who have been watching this case closely, paul callan and tara a staff writer for philadelphia weekly. tara, dr. gosnell maintained his innocence the entire time. how on earth did they think that that would work? explain that to us. >> how on earth did the defense think that would work? >> yes. how did they -- >> it was called a racist elitist prosecution, and that was the defense that he mounted and presented. it was also,s the defense said, basically that's the kind of
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care that poor women and women of color should expect. and the jury, thankfully, of peers say that women of color and poor women shouldn't have to expect terrible treatment like that masquerading as health care. >> paul, talk about the precedent this might set for other cases. >> i think that one of the controversies that's sort of lurked in the background in this case is, will it have an effect on other doctors who are operating abortion clinics or performing abortions in other parts of the country? will they fear criminal prosecution in a case where they make some kind of a medical error? and that's one of the things that's very controversial about the case. but, of course, jake, on the other hand, the testimony in this case was so graphic and so horrific it was -- you know, it described literally a house of horrors taking place in this philadelphia clinic. so i think that a most objective
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observer would say that ultimately this will be an isolated case, hopefully, and that it's simply a case where prosecutors had to act. it had nothing to do with being pro or anti-abortion. >> tara, there were obviously repercussions in pennsylvania because this clinicing suppo su was watched over by the commonwealth health regulators. have there been any steps put in place to make sure nothing like this is ever allowed to happen again in pennsylvania? >> well, yes. in fact, there's been a lot of changes in 2011 new legislation was introduced and passed. however -- so you know, there wasn't any inspections for 17 years. it wasn't a matter of there not being regulations on the books. in fact, pennsylvania has four overlapping sets -- had four overlapping sets of regulations already. they weren't enforced. as a result, people were fired in the department of health. but what happened afterward in
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pennsylvania and now in other states as well is that the case was used to pass a.mbulatory surgical guidelines. it's telling it wasn't supported by medical associations in pennsylvania. in fact, medical associations actively campaigned against it, and it was supported instead by religious organizations and despite that government signed it into law. and after that went into effect, five abortion clinics in pennsylvania have since shut down from it being financially impossible to upgrade to things like wider elevators, parking lot spaces, things like that. so it's being used, the case, to shut down clinics. >> tara murtha and paul callan, thanks so much. still ahead, the president comments on the firestorm of controversy that has erupted after the leaking of state department e-mails about the benghazi attack. but did he just throw more fuel upon that fire? and coming up, we'll have a rare interview with senator al
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franken. he rarely does national interviews so what's getting him to speak out now? well, a conflict of interest that he says comes at the consumers' expense. we'll tell you what it could mean for you and your retirement. that's coming up next on "the lead."
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welcome back to the lead. another national lead. distrust of big government writ large and of the internal revenue service more specifically. those are cornerstones of the tea party ethose. now it looks as athough the irs went and proved their point for them. and president? well, he says he did not know the irs was singling out conservative groups until the news broke. >> i first learned of it from the same news reports that i think most people learned about this. if you've got the irs operating in anything less than a neutral and nonpartisan way, then that is outrageous. i've got no patience with it. i will not tolerate it. and we will make sure that we
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find out exactly what happened on this. >> white house press secretary jay carney today said a treasury department inspector general did notify the white house counsel's office that it was finishing its reports in these practices but carney says the counsel's office did not tell the president about it before it hit the press last friday. the report is coming out this week. the inspector general report, and it has outrageous conclusions about how organizations seeking tax exempt status were handled. it shows that not only tea party groups got more scrutiny but so did a host of other conservative groups that dared to criticize government spending and discuss the national debt. this comes after lois learner admitted that agents flagged certain review based on words like tea party and patriot. basically anybody who is likely to hold up a poster of president obama looking like a joker. some has even been comedy fodder for the president, recall when
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he visited asu in 2009 and the university would not give him an honorary degree because he was so new. >> president crow and the board of regents will soon learn about being audited by the irs. >> after that of course came the birth of the tea party in 2010. some of the conservative groups suspected they were treated differently by the irs but the irs commissioner appointed by president george w. bush and retired in november assured congress that was not the case. >> an organization there's absolutely no targeting. this is the kind of back-and-forth that happens when people apply for 501 c-4 status. >> that was march of 2012 but the report coming out this week says irs officials knew nine months before that, in june 2011, that conservative groups were being targeted. the irs says the number of tax exempt applications doubled between 2010 and 2012, it released a statement friday essentially blaming the work load and the work flow for the
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decision to categorize applications. the irs says there was nothing partisan or political about it but the criticism heading their way, well, it's unrelenting and bipartisan. we'll talk to a tea party group that says they were unfairly singled out by the irs. that's later in the show. senator al franken is with us today for a rare interview. i also want to ask him about the brewing irs scandal in just a moment. but he's here also to talk about our money lead. they were blamed for playing a pivotal role in the financial meltdown but the credit agencies that rate wall street as big banks are being paid for by the very banks they're rating. experts say that a's one of the root causes of the financial crisis of 2008, at least according to a by partisan senate subcommittee that investigated the crash. senator al franken wants to stop what he calls this pay to play rating system. senator al franken, welcome. you don't really do a lot of national tv interviews but you're talking to us today because you feel passionately about this. >> exactly. >> you're meeting with the securities and exchange commission tomorrow to discuss credit rating reform.
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first explain to our viewers rate shopping, what that means, and how your why plan intends to protect consumers. >> okay, this is basically how it worked. let's say an investment bank created a financial product, say, subprime mortgage-backed securities and they wanted to get a rating on that. so it would go shop its two different credit rating agencies and make sure that they got a aaa, whoever they picked would give them a aaa. it was sometimes unspoken, but the credit rating agencies knew they wouldn't get the next gig if they didn't give a aaa. that's why they gave aaa to all this junk with these sub-prime mortgage-backed securities, then it was junk upon junk upon junk. it was all these bets, that's how the house of cards fell and americans lost trillions of dollars. this is just -- this is a classic conflict of interest. i'll give you an analogy. it would be as if a figure
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skater paid the judges to give her all 10s every time she skated. that's what it was. they gave aaas to all these pieces of junk and that's what led to the meltdown. >> what would your bill do, sir? >> well, it's pretty simple. it would require that an independent board assign the initial rating of any structured financial product issued by a bank, and it would assign it to a credit rating agency based on the agency's capacity to do it, its expertise, and over time the track record that the credit rating agency has. and essentially it would be replacing pay to play, which is what we have now and what we had and what led to the financial meltdown, and replace it with pay for performance. >> and this bill right now, this legislation, was part of the
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wall street reform act. it's up to the securities and exchange commission to take the next step. >> exactly. >> do you sense -- the s.e.c. has been criticized a lot in the past for being part of the problem and not -- and being on the side of the bankers and not the consumers. how much confidence do you have that the s.e.c. will embrace your plan? >> well, i talked to mary jo white before she was confirmed about this. she confirmed me this is very important. it's time for the s.e.c. to act, time for them to act and break this system of the issuer of these products paying the rating agency and choosing them to rate the product. the s.e.c. has to do this now. >> sir, before you go, i do want to get your thoughts on this it growing irs scandal. nobody obviously is defending the irs. but do you think the tea party deserves tax-exempt status? forget the tea party. do you have any concerns about
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all the political groups out there that are taking tax exempt status for being, quote unquote, educational? >> well, this is the issue. it just should be done in a completely nonpartisan way. but these are -- these 501c-4s, in order to be tax exempt, in order for people to give them money and also not be disclosed who they are, the 501c-4 has to spend at least 50% plus $1 on actual social welfare. so some of these organizations have been -- you foe, it looks like they've been spending more an on just pure politics. it's a legitimate inquiry by the irs. what is in no way legitimate is this be bias in any way. the people responsible for this should be held accountable. >> senator al franken, thanks so much for your time and keep us up-to-date on your meeting with the securities and exchange commission. >> thank you, jake. come up later this hour, i
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talk to the guy i wanted to be when i was a young man. i was trying to become a acomic strip cartoon. about to unleash his talents on an online show featuring bill murray and john goodman. >> they're politicians but they're four guys trying to live together and try to get through the day together. and hopefully they'll be likeable. >> that and more when "the lead" continues.
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welcome back to "the lead." in it today's world lead, new trouble in benghazi libya. a car bomb detonated near a
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hospital today, no one sure who to blame or 0 what the specific target is or is there an accurate count of the dead and wounded. here in washington, d.c., today, president obama tried again to dismiss congressional questions about last september's attack on the u.s. compounds in benghazi, libya, using words like sideshow and political circus. we'll take a closer look at that in a bit. they say their own brother is a monster. the latest from cleveland, next. and now, you've come back to us. we're speechless. except for two little words. ♪ it's easy to follow the progress you're making toward all your financial goals. a quick glance, and you can see if you're on track. when the conversation turns to knowing where you stand, turn to us. wells fargo advisors.
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. more national news. as if being related to one of the most despised men in america wasn't bad nuf, two cleveland men are fearful they'll be forever tied to his had crimes. the brothers of ariel castro says their lives have been turned upside down since they were arrested and cleared. their brother is accused of holding the women hostage in his home for nearly a decade.
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this is police raiding the home in search of the kidnapping victims, one of them amanda berry had just escaped with their 6-year-old daughter. police were back at the so-called house of horrors today looking for more clues and possible ties between castro and other missing persons. let's go live to cnn's amartin savidge outside the home in clooefld. martin, give us the latest on the investigation. but before you do that, i want to ask you about the two men with whom you spoke exclusively. they were originally arrested along with ariel castro, brothers pedro and onil. they seem to be suggesting to you that they're just as angry as everyone else about this. is that a correct reading? >> reporter: you're right. this was a very emotional kind of interview. it fluctuated on the emotions, tremendous fear on their part, also anguish and then on top of that anger. but that anger focused at a specific source, and that is their brother. here is how they talk.
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>> i want to wake up out of this nightmare. >> i want to say that i don't want to be hunted down like a dog for a crime that i did not commit. i don't want to be locked up in my house because somebody out there is going to do harm to me. i want to be free like i was. now i feel trapped for what somebody else did, and it's a family member. that shouldn't -- they should not take it out on the family. threats of burning up the houses. killi killi killing pedro. that's not right. you already got your monster. please give us our freedom. >> reporter: the anguish that they feel, they aren't directing
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that at anybody. they're not asking for sympathy here, jake. they just -- they want to go home, and they have not been able to do that ever since they were set free because of the threats that have been made against them. and that is all they want. they just -- they are not angry at the police. they just want to go home. jake? >> martin, police were back at the castro home today. any idea what they're looking for? >> reporter: yeah. it was interesting because it was here this morning and they were telling us about how they were going to open the street back up and traffic was going to resume in a sort of sense of normalcy. then they stopped, changed all of that. couple of things. there were agents, federal agents, canvassing the neighborhood talking to neighbors. they appeared to have photos of other missing people. then the medical examiner's office had people back inside the home. we were told they were photographing, documenting and videoing the interior of the home one more time. they had done that already previous last week. that's what was happening. >> martin savidge in your hometown of cleveland, thanks for joining us. i want to return to that irs scandal that's been brewing
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since last friday. the agency never really had a lot of friends but right now it certainly is making a lot of new enemies as we told you earlier in the show. a report being released this week by an inspector general shows that the irs intentionally targeted tea party organizations and other conservative groups going so far aas to flag organizations with the words "tea party" or "patriot" in their names or groups that listed education about the bill of rights in their objectives. we're learning that the house ways and means committee will soon be holding a hearing as soon as friday to figure out what happened. jenny beth martin is co-founder of the tea party patriot group and knows first hand. her group has been waiting years for response from the irs about their request for status. >> we've filed for a 501c-4 and c-3 status several years ago and the irs has been stringing us along for years. in 2009 it would take maybe four
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to nine months to get approval for these statuses. yet tea party groups, 912 groups, patriot groups around the country have been waiting years now as the irs continues to string us along. >> how expensive and time-consuming was the process? i understand that they would ask you to respond to a number of questions and demands and it would take a long time. is that right? >> well, they sent a letter asking for all sorts of questions including the names or the posts that were on our facebook pages, all the comments on it, e-mails we had sent, names of senators and congressmen or supporters around had spoken to. some of the information was il impossible for us to collect. we're voluntarily affiliated organization. we don't even know everyone who's affiliated with us. and some of it just really is none of the irs's business. >> you heard senator franken earlier in the broadcast and to play devil's advocate and paraphrase what he said, obviously no particular ideology or partisan affiliation should
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be targeted at all. but there are legitimate questions about whether groups with a clear political agenda should get this special tax-exempt status. what is your argument for why your group should not have to pay taxes? >> well, with a 501c-4 status you're allowed to have an agenda. you're allowed to be concerned about issues. that that's what we're concerned about. we stand up for fiscal responsibility, constitutionally limiting governments and free markets. we've never endorsed a candidate. our primary focus has always been on legislative issues, the health care law, the debt ceiling, cap and trade, the overspending, the stimulus. our issues are focused on the legislation before congress, and that's what a 501c-4 is for. >> when you had conversations with these irs agents, these irss officials, did you ever discern any anti-tea party or anti-conservative bias, or was it just bureaucratic demands that were just never hending? >> you could tell from the
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questions they were asking and the fact that so many patriot groups and 912 groups and tea party groups around the country were getting them that this was something very unusual happening systemwide to people who were applying for the status. so i could tell that that was happening, and it's obvious that they were trying to make the process as difficult as possible. and they -- they're still to this day stringing tea party patriots along. >> jenny beth martin with tea party patriots, thanks for yb time. >> thank you. the president says the e-mails are a sideshow. the talking points issue. but that's not how some of the families who lost loved ones in benghazi feel about it. we'll talk about that in our politics lead, and that's next.
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welcome back to "the lead." time for the politics lead. it's been more than eight months since americans were killed in benghazi, libya. we're still waiting for a clear explanation of what was happening on the ground in libya and why requests for extra security were denied for months before the attack. what we do know, according to e-mails made public just last week, is the state department requested some substantial revisions to the intelligence community's talking points about the attack, including the removal of direct references to the possible involvement of a group with ties to al qaeda. today president obama weighed in. take a listen. >> nobody understood exactly what was taking place during the course of those first few days. and the e-mails that you allude to were provided by us to congressional committees. they reviewed them several
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months ago, concluded that, in fact, there was nothing afoul in terms of the process that we had used, and suddenly, three days ago, this gets spun up as if there's something new to the story. there's no "there" there. >> there's no "there" there says the president. here to talk about it former senior adviser to the romney campaign kevin madden, hilary rosen, a cnn contributor and ryan liza. john mccain calls this whole thing a deliberate cover-up, darrell issa leading the investigation on the house side said that hillary clinton is not the focus of this. take a listen. >> i'd call it a cover-up. i would call it a cover-up in the extent that there was willful removal of information
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which was obvious. it was obvious. >> hillary clinton is not a target. president obama is not a target. the target is, how did we fail three different ways? fail to heed the warnings of an impending attack, fail to respond properly during the attack, at least we certainly could have done better and i think everyone knows that, and then fail to get the truth to the american people in a timely fashion? >> kevin, here's the question. that all seems reasonable, even if you disagree with it, but there is an american crossroads is running an ad against hillary clinton, rand paul, senator from kentucky, going to run for president in 2016 is out there making this a big issue about hillary clinton. isn't interest a disconnect between what some rkss are saying and some doing? >> no. i think the words expressed by chairman issa are pretty consistent with what the larger public is watching. there's not a target politically, any particular
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politician. but the target here is the truth. the target is the level of accountability and oversight. that's essentially congress' job. i think the truth and some levels of accountability may be inconvenient for some politicians in the end, as we go through this process, but the target here is finding out whether or not the american public was misled. that is at the heart of i think what chairman ice asssa and man folks on capitol hill are doing. >> i think the truth is inconvenient for chairman issa who, if he was really seeking the truth would have actually invited the chairman, the well-respected, nonpartisan chairman of the review document -- >> ambassador pickering and add admiral mike mullen. >> he would not let them testify in public. >> you're talking about this last week. he had invited them months before. >> he had invited them to private meetings but obviously -- and then they never
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held those meetings. if he wanted to hear the truth, if they wanted to hear the actual facts, the fact is that the state department took all of the recommendations of that review board, and i'm sorry, you don't have a hearing where you mention hillary clinton's name over 30 times and then get to say, oh, well -- >> half the time the mentions came from democrats who were singling out -- >> let's step back. >> there's two inconsistencies. first is what the president said. the house committees actually pointed out that there was a massaging of those talking poinlts s and the second is tha chairman issa has invited chairman pickering for deposition. >> let me get ryan's take. does the public care about this issue? >> we were talking about this before. it does seem like one of those issues that in our politics just becomes completely polarized where republicans especially conservatives are hopping mad about this. they think this is a major
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issue, and a lot of democrats are basically in a defensive crouch willing to defend the president on this and frankly don't care that much. this could change now. we have new information. what the president alluded to there in terms of the talking points coming out to you, saying it was no big deal, yes the white house released that. well, they released it under the pressure of an investigation by the house, right? that adds a whole new set of facts. >> no. they released it at a confirmation hearing. >> they -- >> the white house did not -- when reporters knocked on the white house door asking for more information about benghazi, the white house did not hand that over. it was released under the pressure of investigation. >> can you explain why president obama took the tone he took today, which seemed to be raw meat for his base. >> well, look, they have two stances on two issues consuming them right now. on the irs he's absolutely saying what the irs did is wrong. >> yeah. i mean on benghazi. >> but on benghazi i think they think the facts are on their side to a certain extent and they think this is basically
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just a partisan football and they're defending their actions 100%. >> the republicans are clearly overplaying their hand here because there aren't enough new facts to justify this. we're going to see a senate intelligence committee report come out, a bipartisan committee report come out, that dianne feinstein the chairman of the committee aalluded to yesterday, that is going to say they reviewed the same facts that the accountability review board did and found nothing. but over the last four days the republican national committee has blanketed the direct mail, e-mail, they are fund-raising off of this to no end. that's an overplay of the republican strategy. >> 15 seconds, kevin. last word for kevin. >> always arguing about the politics are usually the ones losing the public debate. i think it was very clear from the president today and democrats that they are terrified about the politics of this. >> we have to move on. kevin, ryan, hilary, thank you so much. coming up, a lesson in
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cartooning. >> this was my character in college so i had a college comic strip, and it was -- >> garry trudeau shows me the keys to be a successful cartoonist. 40 years and running.
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. tv networks announce their latest experiments in prime-time. did you miss "24"? fox did, too. it's back on a limited run next year. michael j. fox is returning to television with a comedy on nbc, but the drama with tv may be coming online because there's a new player in the original
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content game, amazon. they want to hear from you. it's a cast television network executives would dream about, john goodman, mark convict swail oes, "alpha house" is not on next thursday's nights's must-see tv. it's one of 14 online pilots produced by amazon studios. yes, the same amazon where you bought that last-minute mother's day gift. >> they were trying to put together a slate of pilots quickly. they wanted to get going. and this was rtd to go. >> the show's creator is a familiar name, too, garry trudeau, better known as the creator of doonesbury. it's how to bring his washington asatire to the small screen on the fast track. >> the amazon studio was so new, so few executives available,
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that we basically were given a lot of support and not that much guidance. >> the funding came from amazon? >> the funding came from amazon. they wanted to get in the content business. amazon's idea was that, if we can create high-end television comparable to good cable series, that we can compete in that space. >> it's basically what hbo had to convince people of 20 years ago. hbo then. netflix now. the online movie service recently launched the original online programming craze with shows like "house of cards." >> power is a lot like real estate. it's all about location location location. >> or "arrested development" which netflix is bringing back to life as seen in this brand-new preview. >> didn't say it was your cousin. >> amazon's twist on the digital content trend? using viewer metrics and feed book to decide which shows stay alive, just like you can post a customer review on, say, a ufo
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detector. amazon is getting realtime feedback by allowing customers to post user reviews of the pilots. "alpha house" has more than 2,000 to date and four stars. soon amazon will decide which shows will be picked up for a full season. >> instead of just a couple of executives in a tower deciding whether to pull the trigger on a series, it's -- their decisions will be more informed by what the public might actually like. >> and while garry trudeau has tv experience writing the political mock u meantry tanner 8825 years ago, his day job is still drawing doonesbury, the comic and characters made him a star and a hero to this once-fledgling cartoonist. >> so this was my character in college. i had a college comic strip. >> he was a college student. >> he was a college student, garry was his name.
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honestly. i wanted to be a cartoonist. i wanted to be the next garry trudeau. 43 years after its creation, the pulitzer prize winning comic strip is still going strong. why are you also doing this other project? isn't juggling 6,000 characters in doonesbury and doing this incredibly popular comic strip enough? >> this cartooning thing just kind of found me. it wasn't something i s.a.l.t. i was recruited out of college my junior year. >> so like whereas i'm a failed cartoonist who stumbled into journali journalism, you're a failed writer/director/author who stumbled into cartooning. >> right. >> i guess sometime everyone will find where they're actually supposed to be. >> supposed to be, yeah. >> for now, trudeau is hoping amazon is where "alpha house" is supposed to be. swruers and reviewers will soon decide. and if you want to see more of the art oist at work, watch exclusive footage of garry trudeau at cnn.com/thelead.
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if you were paying attention to the last story you may have mentioned the bluj, the whole bluj and nothing but the bluj, as i mentioned the return of "arrested development" is still about two weeks away. in the meantime, hold yourself over with this, the very first trailer for the resurrected season four on netflix. >> lindsay. >> george michael? >> george? >> lindsay. >> busted. >> this is the first time we're seeing a lot of these characters back in action since the show was first canceled in 2006. netflix will post all 15 new episodes at once on may 26th. the rumors have been swirling for months but today barbara walters made it aofficial, this year marks the final chapter of her storied career. walters made the announcement on her daytime talk show "the view." >> i will come back.
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i'm not walking into the sunset. but i don't want to appear on another program. i don't want to climb another mountain. i want instead to sit in a sunny field and admire the very gifted women and, okay, some men, too, who will be taking my place. >> walters will step down as co-host of the show in the summer 2014. she got her start in 19 xaun xun. she's blazed trails for untold number of other journalists, women and men, not to mention her remarkable track record for landing the seemingly impossible interview. walters suffered several health scares including a procedure to prepare a heart valve. barbara, we'll miss you. coming up on the "lead," another tornlment, another drop controversy for tiger woods. did the number one golfer in the world get away with one on his road to victory in the players championship?
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a troubling story just in. the associated press is calling it a quote massive and unprecedented intrusion. the ap says the justice department secretly got ahold of two months of phone records of ap reporters and editors. according to this report, the government has not even said why it wanted the records but u.s.
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officials have said in the past that a u.s. attorney is conducting a criminal investigation into who may have leak information to the ap for a may 7, 2012, story about cia operations one that foiled an al qaeda plot. the sports lead, tiger woods haters couldn't get to twitter fast enough after his players championship win not to give him props but accuse him of cheating. he's in the middle of another ball drop controversy, this time on the 14th hole. one commentator said tiger may have made his drop too far forward, setting off an internet frenzy. but his partner said he saw where the ball landed and it was agreed. in the masters he lost a shot at the win. the claprince harry showed e pretty impressive football moves during his recent trip to the air force academy in colorado
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springs. check him out at the bottom of this cheerleading pyramid as well. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. i leave you now in the capable hands of one mr. wolf blitzer. he's in "the situation room." >> jake, thanks. happening now, president obama vows to hold the irs accountable for any targeting of conservative groups. but angry lawmakers -- and they are angry on both sides of the aisle -- demand a full investigation. the president also scoffs at gop outrage over those benghazi talking points as a political, in his words, sideshow. the house oversight chairman darrell issa has been leading the charge. he's standing by and joins us live here in "the situation room". and giant waves of ice 30 feet high in some places pushing ashore with a terrifying roar. and crushing lakefront homes. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situa