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huge decision. i couldn't agree more. she will save so many lives by talking about this so honestly and i applaud her for it. donald rumsfeld, what a time to have him. that will be tomorrow night live at 9:00. that's all for tonight. anderson cooper starts right now. >> piers, thanks. it's 10:00 on the east coast tonight, actress angelina jolie goes public about her decision to have a public mastectomy to protect herself from cancer. plus, michelle knight goes missing for 11 years, a prisoner inside ariel castro's house. no vigils were held for her. the world seemed to forget her. tonight, her story is now coming into focus. first, we have breaking news on the irs scandal. today, attorney general eric holder announced the justice department is launching a criminal investigation into how the irs deliberately targeted conservative groups who were
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>> well, the president has issued a statement. he has strong words, but no action in the wake of this irs watchdog findings. he says the findings are tolerable and inexcusable. he says it's to hold those responsible for the failures accountable and do make sure that each of the inspector general's recommendations are implemented quickly. bottom line, that means the president has now made this issue his treasury secretary's problem. he says regardless of how this conduct was allowed to take place, the bottom line is it was wrong. he's subsequently issued his own statement saying that he also believes that the irs should be held accountable and that none of this was appropriate and that absolute integrity is necessary of the irs, but neither of them, anderson, has decliered that any of them has to be fired immediately. so all of this raises the question, what did that watchdog group find? what did the irs do wrong?
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essentially, the inspector general's report found that employees at the irs use inappropriate standards to single out tea party and other conservative groups for extra scrutiny when they were applying for tax exempt status that management tried to stop it but was unable to and found, also, that there wasn't necessary partisan or political motivation. but that every single group that had the term tea party, patriot or 912 in its name, got extra special scrutiny when it applied for this kind of treatment. that should not be the case, they said and they issued nine recommendations, only seven of which the irs abs sented. we'll have to see how the administration respond. so far, republicans say this kind of statement, this kind of response from the administration is not enough. >> the white house saying they should accept all nine recommendations. we want to turn the alleged spy plot and what it may mean to
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the boston bombing investigation. 60 russian officials have been cooperating with the u.s. as investigators try to learn about the accused bombers. today, a cold war flashback. russian officials expel the u.s. diplomat who they claim is the undercover c.i.a. officer. they say they caught him red handed trying to recruit a russian security officer. they released this photograph. russian officials say the man pinned on the ground is ryan fogel. he was briefly detained before being ordered to leave the country. that's him there in the checked shirt. this photograph shows his so-called spy arsenals that were confiscated, a wig, sunglasses, and wads of cash. officials have not commented publicly on any of this. joining me is phil black from moscow and former cia officer, bob baer. phil, what are the latest details? >> reporter: well, anderson, after being detained last night here in moscow time, ryan fogle was we are told released back
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into the custody of u.s. embassy officials, and the expectation is now that he's been declared persona non grata he must leave the country immediately. we do not know and at the moment the u.s. embassy is maintaining silence, still no comment whatsoever. >> bob, what do you make of this? you're a former cia officer. the letter, the wigs, a compass in moscow, does it make sense to you? >> it makes no sense at all, anderson. you don't carry a compass when you make a meeting in moscow. you never carry a letter. wigs are a waste of time. you just never wear them. if you know who you're meeting it just doesn't matter what you look like. this almost looks like a kgb, they call it the fsb, plant, to embarrass the united states. but for me, that tells a bigger story, relations between russian intelligence and the united states are very bad. that's the only reason they would make this so public, put the pictures out so quickly, and attempt to embarrass the united states. i think this is a really unfortunate turn in relationships. >> there are certainly cia officers and undercover ones working in embassies but aren't they usually actually declared
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to the host country? >> no, not necessarily. you know, the cold war has never been quite over, you know. as we know the russians spy on the united states, we spy on russia. it's just always been there. but it's the trade craft that bothers me. this just doesn't look like a cia operation to me or the whole thing was staged by the fsb simply to embarrass. there's something terribly wrong with this story and the fact that we're only getting out of russia makes me, you know, doubtful of the facts. >> what about the fact that he was supposedly carrying $100,000 for a meeting, $1 million for a year, i guess. it seems a lot of money, no? >> it's a lot of money and the welcome
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other thing is the cia doesn't recruit in moscow. you don't just go meet somebody on a corner and say hey, why don't you spy for us. this is all done outside the country. the fsb is very, very good and the cia has had to match its trade craft to the russians and this doesn't make any sense, this story. you know, let's wait to hear more on it. >> why would the russians want to embarrass the u.s., though? allegedly they're cooperating at this point on the boston bombing investigation. >> well, i think they're mad about the boston investigation. you know, it's come out, the implication is that if they had helped us more, we could have stopped this thing and the russians are saying hey, wait a minute, we told you about this guy in boston, it's your fault, so that hasn't gone all that well and there's also the question of syria. secretary of state kerry was in moscow last week and the russians are very angry about syria. they were attempting to overthrow bashar al assad and you know, they're coming back at us and you know, it's a strange way to do it, i think, but often they've done this in the past. >> phil, there was this video released over russian official talking to ryan fogle after he was taken in. what do you know about it? sorry, go ahead, phil.
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>> reporter: throughout this operation to detain him, you could see the fsb cameras were rolling. they showed him initially on the streets looking pretty unhappy in that shabby looking blond wig, then later inside in a room, he's being addressed or perhaps even dressed down by a russian official who isn't identified, who is often off camera. we don't know who he was. but he accuses him of trying to recruit someone who, to quote, is involved in the fight against terrorism in the north caucasus. particularly after the boston marathon attack. take a look. >> translator: at first we didn't believe this could happen because we know perfectly well that recently the fsb is actively helping in the investigation of the bombing in boston and on other information that presents a threat to the
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security of the united states of america. we think under today's conditions when our countries are reaching a new level of relations, when the presidents of these two countries are trying to improve the climate of mutual understanding between the two governments, this citizen in the name of the u.s. government commits the most serious crime here in moscow. >> reporter: interesting thing about that tape, throughout it there was very little audio. it's been wiped. apart from that one section where that one man is mounting that very angry case against fogle. hard to believe it's a coincidence. >> phil black, appreciate it. bob baer as well.
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obviously more to learn about this. now to boston where four weeks ago, two explosions shattered hundreds of lives. tonight, we've got an update on two of the bombing survivors. you may remember them. paul norden and his brother j.p. were standing near each other when the bombs went off. their injuries were severe. each brother lost a leg. for weeks their families shuttled between the two hospitals where they were being treated. paul and j.p. have come a long way. they have started rehab. jason carroll sat down with them today. >> paul and his brother j.p. have always been close. more than close. inseparable. >> we're together six or seven times a day. we're just always together. all of our family -- >> even when we can't stand each other. >> reporter: no wonder the two celebrated the boston marathon together. they were on boylston street at the forum restaurant when the second bomb exploded. it was a horrific chaotic scene. the brothers, near death, rushed to separate hospitals. >> when it first happened, each brother was asking for each brother, and knowing how sick one was at the time, and how heartbreaking it was -- >> seeing him struggling with
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the breathing tube and all that, that's a bad day. >> reporter: doctors had to amputate the right leg of each brother. between the two of them, they've had a dozen different operations. hours felt like days while in intensive care. >> time has like stopped. it's like a nightmare. like i feel like i'm going to wake up soon but i don't know. >> reporter: during all that time, the hardest part wasn't losing a limb. it was still not being able to see each other. that finally changed two weeks ago. the two are together for the next stage of their recovery at the spalding rehabilitation center. their healing, far from over. >> i have stitches right here and staples right there, and i have burns on my stomach and my back, and i had a nail come out of my face right here, and a
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couple bbs, a bb came out here. >> i have a part of my muscle out right here, some more stuff, then my leg was open from like here to here. so it's sore there. i didn't get a lot of the burns. i did get some nails and stuff out of here and little bbs here and there. but i was fortunate. >> reporter: every day, three hours a day, the brothers do acute rehabilitation, relearning the basics like folding clothes. >> didn't do laundry at home, shouldn't do it here. >> reporter: humor helps. paul often has a smile that encourages j.p. seemingly simple tasks such as getting up and down are now a challenge for him. is it getting up or getting down that seems to be a challenge? >> [ inaudible ] the bending, getting up or getting down. both are pretty hard. >> reporter: paul's left leg not as badly damaged as his brothers so he's ready for an obstacle course and more upper body exercises. how did this feel, this part of it? >> it was the first time i did it. i'm exhausted.
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>> reporter: compared to how you see him now, versus how he was when he first came to you, how is he? >> there's a huge difference. yeah. when he first came, he was still learning even just his sense of balance, standing, let alone doing anything else while he's standing. >> reporter: today, the brothers say is a good day. but there are still difficult ones for them and their loved ones, especially with thinking about the suspects responsible for the bombing. >> i'm very angry. j.p. really hasn't, you know, elaborated on his anger or feelings about them and rightfully so. they're cowards and why do we want to give them the time of day. but i'm mad. i'm extremely mad. nobody deserves this. >> i think now i'm just one in front of the other, i'm just going forward. that's it. that's how i want to believe that it's going to happen. >> reporter: paul and j.p. aren't dwelling on the bombing that took their legs. this is their new normal and they'll get through it together. >> jason joins me now. so what's the prognosis for
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their recovery? >> reporter: well, prognosis is good so far. paul is doing so well, in fact, anderson, he might be released from the rehabilitation center as soon as this thursday. both of them are really looking at several more months of occupational therapy but in terms of being fitted for their first prosthetic, we're told if all goes as planned, that could happen within a matter of weeks. >> wow. that's great news. jason, appreciate it. tomorrow we'll be back in boston for the one-month anniversary of the marathon bombings. we'll broadcast from there. we have much more on the investigation and the survivors tomorrow. let me know what you think. follow me on twitter right now. just ahead, in this hour, actress angelina jolie is an advocate for a lot of causes, never one so personal. her decision to have a double mastectomy. [ man ] on december 17, 1903,
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you may have heard about angelina jolie's brave and unexpected announcement today that she recently had a double mastectomy, not because she has cancer but in a way to prevent it. in an op-ed, she revealed she has a genetic mutation that greatly increases her risk for breast and ovarian cancer. incredibly personal information, obviously, that she chose to make public. hers is one of the most recognizable faces in the world. as well known for her beauty as she is for her acting, the 37-year-old angelina jolie is a very public figure who has been fighting a private battle for the past three months. a battle against the same cancer that took her mother's life when she was 56 years old. i carry a faulty gene, she writes in the "new york times," which sharply increases my risk of developing breast cancer and ovarian cancer.
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her mother died in 2007 after a 7 1/2 year battle with ovarian cancer. doctors tested jolie and determined she has an 87% chance of developing breast cancer and a 50% chance of ovarian cancer. she writes, once i knew that this was my reality, i decided to be proactive and to minimize the risk as much as i could. i made a decision to have a preventive double mastectomy. i started with the breasts as my risk of breast cancer is higher than my risk of ovarian cancer, and the surgery is more complex. it was a three-step process for jolie who had reconstructive surgery after her breast tissue was removed. on a personal note, i do not feel any less of a woman, jolie writes. i feel empowered that i made a strong choice that in no way diminishes my femininity. beyond movies and magazine covers, jolie is also a humanitarian and visited refugee camps all over the world for the united nations. jolie continued on her work despite her surgeries. in march, right after her second surgery, she took this trip to eastern congo with channel 4
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news to bring attention to sexual violence in war zones. the next month, she showed up on the red carpet wearing a long black cape. she writes, i wanted to write this to tell other women that the decision to have a mastectomy was not easy but it is one i'm very happy that i made. i can tell my children that they don't need to fear they will lose me to breast cancer. the co-anchor of "morning star" has not been tested for the breast cancer gene but decided to have a double mastectomy. she hadn't shared her news until this morning and says jolie's openness prompted her to go public with her decision. she joins me now along with dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, how common is a double mastectomy in cases like hers? >> it's becoming increasingly common, no question about it. as the testing has certainly gotten more sophisticated and typically the scenario is you go through genetic counseling first so you have some idea when you get the test results back what they're going to mean, then you go through it again, as well as psychological counseling. if the decision is to go ahead and do the operation to remove
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both breasts, it's usually done fairly quickly, within a month or so. but there are other options. some people may say look, i'm going to just be more vigilant about getting studies to look at the breasts and see if any cancer is developing. some people may go on to medication to try and delay onset of cancer. one thing that's worth pointing out is even since i trained is that the reconstructive techniques surrounding this are so much better so if someone goes to sleep under general anesthesia knowing that they're going to have the mastectomy, then they wake up with the reconstruction already done. so it's changed a lot, anderson. >> interesting.
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angelina jolie's announcement prompted you to make your own revelation today. explain the process for that. >> well, you know, i saw that our lead story was going to be this op-ed piece she wrote, and i read it, and she dealt with some things that i had really been struggling with. one of the big questions was how am i going to talk about this. i'm on the air every day, i'm going to be going out for awhile, i have chosen to have a double mastectomy and she dealt with a couple key things that were critical for me also. i have two kids, a 9-year-old daughter and 14-year-old boy, and in large part, my decision was made for them. because i want to be here for them and i want them to have me also. i want to see them grow up. and then you know, i had some real struggles with the whole issue of femininity and sexuality and she talked about that this morning, and i felt like she gave me a voice, and she gave me an opportunity that i wouldn't have had otherwise to actually begin this dialogue. >> talk to me about that, because you're getting married. i know your fiance has been very involved all along since your
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diagnosis. what was that conversation like? >> oh, my gosh. one of the most difficult conversations and also one of the easiest, because he's the first person i called, and he said we're in this together and we're going to conquer this together. but then, you know, there were the doctor visits and then there was the news and then there was understanding, this monumental decision that had to be made, and you know, he's been in it every step of the way. he travels a lot and completely changed his schedule so he could be there. he's done research so he could figure out how to help me with the bandages and the drains that have to happen and then we talked about, you know, this really touchy subject about how do you deal with this major change, and is it going to be okay with you. and how i feel about it and there have been some very graphic and very difficult conversations. we looked at a lot of pictures and you know, we've talked it out and i think at the end of the day, what it's going to do
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is bring us closer together not just the two of us, but the entire family. >> what was your decision making process in terms of having the surgery? >> i, you know, i have this cancer diagnosis, it's an early form of breast cancer in my left breast. it's called dcis. >> did this come as a complete surprise to you? >> no, before i started here two years ago at cnn, i had a breast cancer scare and i had a lumpectomy and it was benign. at that time they said to me at this stage of the game we think it's when, not if. i have always been waiting on this hot seat for this news that could perhaps happen so i wasn't so shocked. it's still difficult to hear that. but you know, as i was looking at my specific situation and i got diagnosed with this first form of breast cancer and then they did an mri and that changed everything for me, because the mri on my left breast showed another area that now makes it a very sizeable area, and it makes sense to have a mastectomy, and then it lit up on the right side and sanjay, i would imagine, can tell you what this all means. but you know, it was a
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possibility of cancer there and the possibility of multiple biopsies and i couldn't sleep at night anymore, anderson. i had this reel playing in my head of what could potentially happen and what could potentially be the outcome and i just couldn't take it anymore. i thought at the end of the day i need to make this decision for me and i was so grateful that i could make the decision. that i could decide what my health care outcome was going to be. >> sanjay, the test angelina jolie made this point, the test to find out if you have a gene, the gene for this, is very expensive. insurance companies don't often cover it. >> yeah, some insurance companies will cover it if you are considered high risk. that's how a lot of these insurance companies sort of decide things, if you have a strong family history, if you've had other cancers that may be something that may be related but that may change as well. the test is about $4,000 so it's by no means cheap and that plays
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a role in people's decision making as well. under the affordable care act, that may change. so preventive tests which this is considered one of them, again, the breast cancer genetic diagnosis, it should be covered. there may be some insurance companies that will be still grandfathered in and not be forced to do this, but yeah, i think cost absolutely has played a role so far in this. >> are you scared? >> yes. i mean, you know, i say that at the beginning i was really scared, and i was in a really dark place, because i allowed myself to go to worse case scenario and when i was told that i had breast cancer, i was driving to pick up my son from school and so i had to really kind of compose myself and gather myself because i didn't want him to know. that night, i let myself feel. i talked to the doctor, he talked to me about all these different options, and that was my darkest hour. that was my moment of oh, my gosh, what is worst case scenario here and it took me to a really, really bad place. since then, i will say that a couple of really great things happened. one is right here at cnn, there's a woman here who works
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for the medical team and i reached out to her and she helped me immediately come up with a plan and she told me, you know, we're going to conquer this. you're strong and this is not going to be a problem and you need to treat it for what it is and move forward and have a lot of forward thinking. >> you've told your kids subsequently. i know you said you didn't want your son to know. he's 14? >> he's 14. i didn't want him to know at the time because i wanted to figure out how do you do that, and i had this really great conversation with him. i picked up this book, called breast cancer for dummies, and i used that as kind of a starting off point and i asked him, i said when you think of breast cancer, you know, what does that bring to mind. and he said a fight. and i thought thank god, right? because that's exactly the way i need to look at this. this is a fight and we're going to conquer it and i walked him through this book, actually has a wonderful explanation of exactly the different types of breast cancer, what are your options. i told him what was going to happen and i allowed him to process all the information. at the end of the day he's 14
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years old, he's still scared, but it allowed him to really deal with this and we've talked about it a lot. my 9-year-old daughter, on the other hand, you know, as a woman, my initial reaction was what have i done, right, what have i done. and i know that i haven't done anything but i was so worried about her and what does her future hold. so i was overthinking everything. how am i going to tell her. >> people should be worried about their own health and your health. >> absolutely. she identifies with me. she identifies her femininity. she identifies with me and i am her role model and her example, and so i thought she's instantly going to think this is going to be me. and it wasn't. i asked her what she thought about breast cancer and she said to me that she thought about she
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knew that people lost their hair and she knew that people got sick. and i told her well, i'm not going to lose my hair and i'm not going to get sick. i'm going to be gone for awhile, i'll come back and everything will be okay. and she moved on. that was the greatest gift she could have given me. >> thank you so much for being on. >> i appreciate the opportunity. thank you. >> sanjay, thank you. of course, we wish angelina jolie and her family the best as well. up next, breaking news on the irs scandal. how the agency targeted conservative groups, what's in the new inspector general's report. the latest in a live report from dana bash. also, michelle knight rescued after a decade locked up in that cleveland home. turns out she dealt with more than her share of troubles before the kidnapping. we'll explain, ahead. i'm the next american success story. working for a company
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welcome back. more on our breaking news now, the growing scandal at the irs. a new report released from the treasury inspector general shows the agency deliberately targeted conservative groups. the report comes just hours after the justice department announced it's launching a criminal investigation into the matter. in a statement tonight, the irs responded to the inspector general's report, saying it's required to determine whether organizations political activities are permissible but acknowledge taking inappropriate shortcuts. dana bash is back with us along with senior political analyst david gergen. what can you tell us about this separate investigation, criminal investigation announced today out of the justice department? >> it was really a surprise by
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the attorney general who really sort of tumbled out of his mouth as part of a larger press conference. what he said is that the justice department, the fbi, they are looking into whether any laws were broken. he said obviously this is outrageous, unacceptable. he went a little bit into the specifics, saying that they're looking into whether anything in title 18 was broken. title 18 is really the overall criminal code. so it sounds like they're not really even sure if laws were broken, but the fact that these irs agents are now going to have to deal with, you know, depending on who they are, a slap on the wrist, maybe being fired, and now they're going to have to probably lawyer up, get lawyers. it certainly takes this investigation and this problem to a whole new level. >> david, i understand, you know, irs looking into new groups to see if, what kind of tax-exempt status they should have but only looking at conservative groups and delaying them, i mean, what do you make of this? >> i think this controversy has now mushroomed into a big league scandal.
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>> you think it's justified? >> yes. well, we now have from the inspector general had a chance to within the government look at it and say it's serious. the attorney general is saying he's going to launch a criminal investigation. that says there are signals this is very serious. i think that this criminal investigation is very likely to lead to a lot of pressure from republicans to appoint a special prosecutor. the law permits the attorney general to do that when there's a conflict of interest between what the attorney general's trying -- between his department and another department. we've seen plenty of those in the past. but as you know, special prosecutors give a long life to a scandal. there can be weeks of inquiries of one thing or another, months, indeed, and i think it comes at a particularly bad time for the obama administration. >> do you see this just republicans asking for this or democrats as well? i don't see why this should be a
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partisan issue -- >> it's not. >> -- if the irs is going after one group over another. >> it was notable that a number of democrats today, especially in the political consultant group, were calling for some sort of independent probe. they realize, look, if there's going to be pressure, why don't you give into the pressure now and go the independent route. but i will tell you, i was there when we called for a special prosecutor in the clinton administration, and it led to -- it led to ken starr. these things can suddenly take on a rogue quality that you're not expecting, and really be very damaging. >> it's fascinating, you have this on top of the department of justice looking into the associated press getting phone records, which obviously is a different kind of thing, but it certainly raises a lot of questions about what's going on in the obama white house, how much they knew. the administration is saying they knew nothing about this irs scandal at all, correct? >> that's right. they said that jay carney, the white house spokesman, said the counsel's office found out a few
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weeks ago that the inspector general was doing this investigation at all but you're absolutely right. what this does is feed into an already existing huge problem with the american people, that is that they simply don't trust the government. that's obviously the basis for this country. but it has really gotten so much worse recently and the fact that you have these two issues, you have the government effectively spying on and taking records from journalists, and then of course, the irs which has never had the greatest reputation in the world. it's definitely a double whammy. >> and already this administration is actually going after more classified leaks than basically all recent administrations combined. >> that's right. i don't fault them so much on that, and i must say in their defense, none of these scandals so far or these controversies has touched the president directly. in the past the big scandals have surrounded the president himself. and that i think is a positive thing for the administration. but i do think it's not just a question of -- and as dana says, it's feeding into each other when you've got this issue now with the irs, you've got benghazi which is out there. you've got the a.p. stuff. and there are republicans who
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believe that kathleen sebelius as secretary of hhs going around asking for money from corporations to fund obama care, when these are the very corporations that she's overseeing in a regulatory way, that that has all sorts of scandal implications. so i think, especially in a slow news time, you know, it's not a big news time politically but it's a precious moment for the obama administration. a lot depends on what happens the next few weeks for him, for his whole second term. >> anderson, just one point i want to make, though, about this whole political question. one thing that the inspector general report does say is that they have found that there was no influence outside the irs, meaning nobody at the white house said you should target these tea party groups. >> but it's still not clear who came up with this idea, who came up with it. no one is standing up and taking the responsibility at this point, right, dana? >> not only that, the inspector general says that they simply
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can't figure out who came up with it. they know that -- they think it was what they call first line low level management, but they don't know who came up with it. >> there are no fingerprints on this. ridiculous. dana bash, appreciate it. david gergen, more to find out. up next, more breaking news. new information about the cleveland kidnapping victims and how they were allegedly treated by their captor plus what we learned about castro's first alleged victim, michelle knight and why it seems no one was looking for her. ♪ let me play among the stars ♪ and let me see what spring is like ♪ ♪ on jupiter and mars ♪ in other words [ male announcer ] the classic is back. ♪ i love [ male announcer ] the all-new chevrolet impala. chevrolet. find new roads. ♪ you
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we have new details out of cleveland tonight on the condition of the women rescued after years of being locked up inside a cleveland home of ariel castro. a reuters report citing two sources with direct knowledge says when they were found, two of the women were suffering from severe malnutrition and injuries including hearing loss along with joint and muscle damage, and will require long-term therapy. according to reuters sources, gina dejesus and michelle knight were in worse shape than amanda berry. the report goes on to compare the condition of the home to a prison war camp, saying the women were restrained in duct tape in quote, stress positions for long periods that caused bed sores and other injuries. randi kaye is live in cleveland with more. randi? >> reporter: anderson, we are learning more about that tonight. we're also learning more about ariel castro and his daily routine and his time in jail. we were able to get our hands on the jail log which is a snapshot of his daily life. he is on a suicide watch so the guards have to mark his behavior every ten minutes. it's pretty mundane stuff but
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they actually mark things like when he's eating, when he's bathing, when he's making a kool-aid, when he's napping. we also saw a couple entries that really caught our eyes, including a couple times where he's been marked as walking around his jail cell naked. he's also been reprimanded for using some loose string that he got from the mat in his cell to floss his teeth. but most of the time, he's alone. he's not allowed to mingle with other prisoners so he has a lot of time to think about what he's accused of, a lot of time to think about these women who were allegedly kept in his home all these years, including michelle knight, who we are also learning more about today. >> that image of him walking around naked flossing his teeth in his jail cell, not an image i need to have in my mind, randi. do we know anything about where michelle knight is and what's next for her? she had been in the hospital for a long time and reportedly hadn't seen her family. >> reporter: right. michelle knight was in the
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hospital for quite some time, and it's very difficult to learn a lot about her. she was the first woman taken. she was 21 at the time. we've talked to some of her friends and relatives, not many of them want to go on camera, but here's what we were able to learn. she was the first to be taken, on a breezy summer day in august 2002. michelle knight was 21. >> michelle told my niece that she was going to use the pay phone and that she would come back to my sister's house, which she didn't. that was the last time michelle was seen. >> reporter: that day, michelle was offered a ride home from ariel castro. but instead, he took her to his home. for 11 years, she was held captive in his house, trapped like a caged animal, beaten, raped and mentally abused. it seems the longer michelle was missing, the more invisible she became. when you say the name amanda or gina in this neighborhood, everybody knows who you're talking about. but nobody knows the name michelle. nobody knows who she was. why is that? >> it's like we forgot about michelle. it's like did she ever come back home or whatever happened to michelle. after that kind of stuff dies down, you don't think about it anymore. nobody ever wondered about michelle knight anymore. we just figured she just went on about her life. >> reporter: people here forgot about michelle in part because the cleveland police removed her name from the fbi's missing persons data base. just 15 months after she vanished. at the time, she was locked away
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in castro's home. the fbi has said it couldn't find her mother and was unable to confirm michelle was still missing. michelle was an adult at the time, too, another reason why authorities, even her family, thought she may have just wandered off. michelle's broken family didn't help spotlight her case, either. in fact, her own brother didn't even know she had been abducted. before she was kidnapped, according to the cleveland "plain dealer" michelle spent most of her life here on the city's west side. those were happier days when she fed apples to the neighbor's pony and helped her mom in the vegetable garden. michelle reportedly dreamed of becoming a veterinarian. back then, she had a nickname, too. shorty. life got messy about four years before her abduction, when she
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got pregnant. michelle dropped out of school to have her baby. but lost custody of the toddler after her own mother's abusive boyfriend injured the child. why michelle was taken is anybody's guess. but she may have had it the worst during her years inside ariel castro's house. according to the police report, knight told officers castro got her pregnant, too. she said he starved her for at least two weeks, then he repeatedly punched her in the stomach until she miscarried. but when amanda berry was pregnant, castro turned to michelle to deliver the baby.
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michelle told investigators castro threatened to kill her if the baby died. when the baby stopped breathing at one point, michelle did cpr, likely saving both their lives. michelle's mother says she wants to reunite with her daughter, but was stonewalled at the hospital where michelle was recovering. >> i'm thrilled and all i want to do is hug her and say i love you. >> reporter: her mother's lawyer told reporters michelle has quote, lived through hell. then referring to her mother, said it was hell for her, too. now 32, nobody is asking any more what happened to michelle knight. we all finally know the horrible truth. >> how is she doing, do we know? >> reporter: well, anderson, the woman we interviewed today told us that she's doing okay, she's a good friend of the dejesus family and apparently, gina dejesus and michelle knight really bonded in captivity. they're like sisters and the dejesus family's apparently
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asking her to live with them and offering her to live with them. but she has a tough road ahead. she'll need facial reconstructive surgery after all the beatings that she allegedly took in the home of ariel castro. she also has hearing loss which is part of what reuters was reporting tonight, citing those two sources with direct knowledge of what happened inside that home. reuters also reporting that both michelle knight and gina dejesus appeared gaunt when they left that home, they had bed sores as if they had been in that same position for long periods of time. they were also reporting there were not only chains but dog leashes hanging from the ceiling of the basement and you remember that these women had told police that ariel castro had chained them up in the basement. >> still so horrible. randi, appreciate it. thank you very much. thank you very much. tment. axiron can restore t levels to normal in about 2 weeks in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18 or men with prostate or breast cancer.
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>> barbara starr joins me now by phone. anderson, could not be more embarrassing for a sergeant first class. he is under investigation now
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for pandering, possible suggestion of abuse there, assault and maltreatment of sub ord nants. he would have been in a sort of mid-grade, enlisted position working in the office at ft. hood with a battalion on sexual prevention issues, equal opportunity issues, that sort of thing. but this just could not come at a more difficult time for the pentagon. just last week, a lieutenant colonel in the air force at the pentagon who works in sexual prevention office, he also arrested by the local police for sexual battery. secretary of defense hagel has said this has to stop. he has a number of initiatives, but every one of these cases becomes a growing embarrassment and a growing scandal. and of course, it's not just these two cases. there are a number of these every week across the military, across the country and really becoming a growing problem for the pentagon. >> so are they still investigating this guy now for fort hood?
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>> yeah, they just announced it a short time ago tonight that he was under investigation, removed from his duties and in fact, a signal of just how serious it may be for this person, the army criminal investigation command, the c.i.d., now investigating the allegations against him. so this suggests very strongly a potential criminal case. >> wow. we'll continue to follow it. barbara starr, appreciate it. lot more happening tonight. isha is here with the "360" bulletin. word tonight philadelphia abortion doctor and convicted murderer kermit gosnell struck a deal with prosecutors to avoid the death penalty. yesterday, jurors found gosnell guilty on a string of charges, including three counts of first degree murder. today, the d.a.'s office says gosnell agreed to waive all appeals in exchange for life in prison without the possibility for parole. a new york woman is indicted on charges she ran a charity
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scam by posing as a sandy hook shooting victim. she is charged with scheming to defraud and identity theft. the legal age for consuming alcohol before getting behind the wheel could soon get much stricter. the national transportation safety board is recommending all 50 states lower the threshold of blood alcohol content from .08 to .05. anderson, prince harry visiting the jersey shore for a first-hand look at the damage left by super storm sandy. he received a personal tour from governor chris christie that included time for some of the famous boardwalk games. the ladies have been loving their prince harry. >> do we know how long is he here for? it's wrapping up, right? >> it's wrapping up. but you can rest assured he's not going to vegas.
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welcome back. we had a lot of breaking news tonight. just want to give you a quick >> out front next, breaking news. cnn has obtained a copy of a report that confirms that the irs deliberately targeted some conservative groups. plus, the latest on the investigation in cleveland. cnn exclusive details about missed clues that could have saved those women sooner. and a major decision by angelina jolie. the dramatic surgery she may or may not have needed. let's go out front.