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ban. [ technical difficulties] in london the british government has just released its intelligence assessment on syria declaring that an attack would be justified on humanitarian grounds. for the first time since last week's suspected chemical attack in the outskirts of damascus, president obama now says there is no doubt syria was, in fact, responsible. in syria this morning, president bashar al assad again vowing to defend his government "against any aggression." our comprehensive coverage of the syrian crisis begins in london this morning live. break down for us if you could
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exactly what is in this intelligence assessment in the u.k. >> well, basically, the intelligence assessment says that they believe, british intelligence believes that assad's forces are behind the alleged chemical attack on the 21st of august. here are the two key lines from that. "we have assessed previously that the syrian regime used lethal chemical weapons on 14 occasions from 2012," also, "it is highly likely that the regime was responsible for the chemical weapons attacks on the 21st of august." now, those seem like strong statements. but the intelligence report doesn't actually detail what exactly that evidence was other than to say that regime forces appear to have used chemical weapons in the past. so for a lot of members of parliament here, that is not enough evidence. they say they want to see what the u.n. inspectors have before they make a decision on military action. but the british prime minister,
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david cameron, is pushing ahead saying action must be taken. listen to what he said earlier. >> the fact the syrian government has and has used chemical weapons is beyond doubt. the fact that the most recent attack took place is not seriously doubted. the syrian government has said it took place, and the evidence that the syrian regime has used these weapons in the early hours of the 21st of august is right in front of our eyes. >> reporter: yesterday it seemed that the prime minister was pushing for a one vote today that would clear the path for a decision on military action. that does not seem likely to happen. there is too much opposition in parliament. instead, they're voting on humanitarian action today, and then they're hoping to get some more evidence from u.n. inspectors on the ground, talk to the u.n. security council, and then there might be a second vote before we hear anything on military action. so we're talking about several days before we see a british decision at least. >> all right. live from london. meantime, those inspectors are
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still doing their work. they're still collecting material from in country and on site. and there are more dire threats that are coming from the syrian regime on what it would do if it finds itself under attack by the united states. we're also hearing that some syrian military commanders have left, gone from the capital of damascus, as well, of course, as you would understand a lot of civilian residents. cnn has more from syria, damascus, and we have more live from beirut. first off, is there any reaction we know of yet because this is all developing, fred, from syria with regard to what the british are saying this morning? >> reporter: well, ashleigh, they haven't reacted yesterday to that report specifically from the brits outlining what they think actually happened. of course, they've been saying the same thing continuously over the past couple of days. the syrian regime continues to say it didn't use chemical weapons in the outskirts of damascus, they also say and this is probably the most important statement, that they believe that the united states is
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"fabricating evidence" to try and make a case for military intervention. so they think this is all a case that's being built against them. something that we've heard from the prime minister's office. we've also heard from the information minister of syria who's quite a senior national that administration. he's saying if the united states and if the brits have any sort of proof, they need to bring that forward. clearly they believe that so far that isn't the case. it all gets back to the weapons inspectors. that's sort of what the syrian regime is hanging itself on. i keep saying the weapons inspectors need more time to do their work, to complete their work. we know that's supposed to happen by saturday. but now the syrian regime has come and said it wants the inspectors to check out various other sites, as well. >> all right. fred live in beirut. thank you for your incredible work all throughout last week. fred put himself under immense danger to be in syria for us. president obama has been under a lot of pressure from the members of congress to get their approval for any kind of action,
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any sort of military attack against syria. they are all expected to be briefed today on a big conference call by the administration officials. as pertains to the evidence that syria, in fact the administration there, used chemical weapons against its own civilians last week. barbara starr is live at the pentagon. i'm wondering if the pentagon is as much involved in the case for war or making the case at least as they have been just getting busy getting ready. in the meantime, when you ponder that question, look at this report on the entire scenario. >> reporter: president obama says he hasn't decided what to do but is determined to hold syria accountable. >> we want the assad regime to understand that by using chemical weapons against your own people, against women, against infants, against children, that you are not only breaking international norms and standards of decency, but you're creating a situation where u.s.
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national interests are affected. and that needs to stop. >> reporter: in an interview with the peanut buttbs "news ho president left no doubt as to who the united states believes concluded the attacks. >> we believe the syrian government carried these out. >> reporter: commanders discussing the movement of chemical weapons to the area of the attack provided by israeli intelligence. the potential next step, cruise missile strikes, has put the u.s. at direct odds with russia. >> we do not believe that the syrian regime should be able to hide behind the fact that the russians can to black action on syria at the u.n. >> reporter: behind the scenes, officials are signaling the u.s. may not wait for the united nations to act. the u.s. maryland is strengthening its position in the eastern mediterranean with the addition of two more submarines. and the syrian regime is also getting ready.
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>> we are in a state of war now, preparing ourselves for the worst scenario. >> so that question -- is the pentagon so much involved in the case to go to war, or are they just involved in readying the assets? >> reporter: well, probably a little bit of both. but look, the military's number-one job is to be ready to go when the president makes that call and says he wants to do this. so that's where the real focus is right now. the warships in the eastern mediterranean, ready with those tomahawk cruise missiles, ready to go whenever the president gives the order. >> and barbara, quickly, you know, the russians are sending assets to the mediterranean, as well, saying they're not necessarily for this particular scenario, they were already on the way. anti-nuclear devices as well as missile ship, that's serious. >> you know, the russian navy has maintained a presence in the eastern med off syria really for months and months now, since all of this began. at the moment, sources at the pentagon say they don't see the
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russians causing any trouble. they think the russians want to have a presence in the region just as the u.s. does. but i think it's really safe to say everybody's keeping an eye on everybody else. >> i should have said anti-sub, not anti-nuclear assets. thank you. also coming up later, we'll speak with the former united nations weapons inspector david kaye about what the team could be doing now and if what they're doing matters at this point. and also, general james spider marks will join us on how the u.s. may be just preparing for what exactly barbara starr was reporting on and exactly what it means to be in this predicament if you're part of those forces. the collateral damage from this civil war in syria and now this chemical attack and its reverberations is starting it show up in the united states. take, for instance, if you tried to log on to "the new york times'" web site yesterday or this morning. you're probably seeing this -- server not found. an error message. it's because a group called the
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syrian electronic army has apparently hacked into this web site. and our national correspondent, deb feyerick, has been following this. the syrian electronic army, it almost sounds comical. but this is something no one expected could possibly happen with big reverberations. >> huge reverberations. nobody really knows exactly who this group is and where they're operating out of. there have been addresses that have been tracked to syria. this is a mysterious pro-assad hacking group that claimed responsibility for a number of high-profile attacks. they've gone after "the new york times," twitter, "huffington post" in the u.k. what they're doing essentially is they're trying to spread their message, a pro-syrian message, pro-assad message which they feel is not getting out there. what they're doing is instead of targeting the giants themselves, they're going after the huge supply chains. in this case, "the new york times," the domain registrar. another attack, they targeted the search engine. rather than hit the giant, what they're doing is they're going
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after the friends that surround the giant and getting in that way. it's not the integrity of the site that was compromised, "the new york times." what was compromised was our ability to access that site. and the domain registrar, they fixed the problem, but they said that really you've got to give it 48 hours until everything is back up and running. >> even if you don't read "the new york times," i think we worry that that can happen with banking and so many site. deb feyerick, thanks for that. i know there's more to look at seeing as they're not back up perfectly yet either. >> yeah. the internet is the new theater of war when it comes to digital. >> deb feyerick live for us in new york. we aren't getting too far from the crisis in syria because this is the tick-tock. we'll keep you updated throughout the day and this program, as well, on what's happening in syria. and there is other news to actual. it the video that shocked the nation. just as school was starting, a boy beaten up on a bus. the accused are in court as the victim's grandmother speaks out. plus, the judge in a
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this afternoon, the three suspect in the florida bus beating case are going to be in court. and now the victim of the attack, the grandmother of that victim, says none of this would ever have happened if the authorities had actually listened to earlier complaints about the suspects in the case and maybe called the grandmother to pick the child up. pamela brown has more. that he had to go through that -- >> reporter: patricia yankee still gets choked up as she talks about what happened in this video. [ yelling ] >> reporter: showing three florida teens brutally beating up her grandson on the school bus. >> to hear him saying, "stop, stop," it breaks my heart. >> reporter: the image of him after the attack still very vivid in her mind. >> he had bruises on his face. his whole body was bruised. it was horrible. >> reporter: police say the victim told a school employee the teens had tried to sell him
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drugs. later that day, his grandmother says they relent willingly taunted him -- relentlessly taunted him on the bus. >> leave him alone now! >> reporter: she questions why the bus driver who called for help chose not to underconvenient, something he was not -- intervene, something he was not required to do under school policy. >> i would have been in the middle of it, no matter what policy said. but that's me. i can't stand by and watch somebody get hurt. i -- i couldn't do it -- >> reporter: he should have stepped in and helped your grandson? >> i feel that he should have. >> reporter: still, she puts the blame squarely on the three defendants who have been charged as juveniles with aggravated battery. one faces an additional robbery charge. a father of one of the defendants offered an apology. >> i would lake like -- like to apologize to the young man and his family. from my heart for my son because i know i didn't raise him like that. >> reporter: he says his son is not a criminal. >> peer pressure maybe. you know, a bad mix.
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but i understand that, you know, what he did is really not what defines him, you know, as a child. you know, he's not a criminal. >> reporter: yanky says she hopes the teens have learned their lesson. >> children, for lack of a better term, have to realize that they can be up on other charges now. they could have killed him. >> our pamela brown joins you live from clearwater, florida. this is such an incredibly vicious attack. yet, the state officials who are prosecuting this case are only recommending probation. what happened here? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. and they're saying a big reason for that is because these three 15-year-olds are first-time offenders. now initially they recommended court-supervised probation. they have since recommended a stricter punishment which is department of juvenile justice supervised probation which would entail perhaps a juvenile record which is different from the
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initial recommendation. it also would include other measures like anger management, a strict curfew, and so forth. it's important to note here that these are just recommendations. when the three teens appear in court today, the judge will ultimately decide what their punishment will be. and he's expected to look at that beating video and perhaps hear from the defendants themselves in an apology. >> so weird. it's normally the prosecutors who shoot for the moon and the judge brings it down to the stars. so i'll await your report this afternoon. pamela brown, thank you for that. george zimmerman's wife is talking about her ordeal today. a day after she pleaded guilty to perjury related to the trayvon martin case. shellie zimmerman was talking to abc's "good morning america" about the strain that the trial took on their lives. >> we have been pretty much gypsies for the past year and a half. we've lived in a 20-foot trailer in the woods, scared every night that someone was going to find
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us. and that it would be horrific. >> despite all of that, she did lie about the couple's finances. for that, she's going to be on probation for one year and also have to perform 100 hours of community service. speaking of service, a montana judge is now having to apologize for his remarks about a rape victim. a very young rape victim. he's not backing down from his 30-day sentence for that rapist. you're going to hear what he has to say about this controversial coming up next. plus, as new evidence is gathered in syria on the suspected chemical attacks, do we need that intelligence? most americans say we don't need to go there at all.
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talk about law and disorder. a judge in montana is apologizing for the 30-day sentence he handed down in the
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rape case of a girl who committed suicide. he's not apologizing for the sentence but is apologizing for the things he said in handing down the sentence. what did he say? that the 14-year-old victim was "older than her chronological age," and that she was "as much in control of the situation" as the 49-year-old rapised, her teacher. but -- rapist, her teacher. but here is what he's saying now. >> in the rambold sentencing, i made some references to the victim's age and control. i'm not sure just what i was attempting to say at that point, but it didn't come out correct. what i said was demeaning to all women, not what i believe in. and irrelevant to the sentencing. i owe all of our fellow citizens an apology. >> so he also had to say about people who are upset with the sentence, "i think that people have in mind that this was some
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violent, forcible, horrible rape. it was horrible enough as it is, just given her age, but it wasn't this forcible beat-up rape." today in billings, montana, there is a protest scheduled at the courthouse against the sentence and against the judge, as you could imagine. cnn's legal analyst joins me live from atlanta. where to begin, but i want to begin here, mark. that is judicial recall. protesting is one thing. actually yanking a judge from the bench is another. is it possible? >> it's highly improbable. it was a legal sentence, as -- absurd as that might seem. if it's a legal sentence, and he was exercising judicial discretion, it's not going to pull him off the bench. what might pull him off the bench is some of the inappropriate comments. trying to put it back in the bottle, you it's out. the fact is they were highly inappropriate. and they really basically in
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some ways justify the raping of a child. >> who does it? is it the a.g. who has to step in? the voters who have to try for a recall, or is there some process in place for redskin appropriate comments come -- for inappropriate comments coming? >> the judicial qualification committee. if in fact he did something that was a violation of his judicial ethics, that would go to the judicial ethics committee. if the elections are in fact voted upon, like any elected official, you can have a right to recall. so those would be the two avenues. but you know, the situation is is that what the judge said which is so offensive, he goes ahead and says that he -- regrets his comments. well, you know, whenever you get caught doing that, that's what people tip knee ypically do. judges make comments in large part to sentence that's are imposed. no matter what he said, he imposed a 30-day sentence on the rapist and in fact said the 14-year-old because it wasn't violent and wasn't what people have in their minds, no.
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legislation says the age of a child is enough to call rape. what century we came from is -- >> that's it. forcible rape, please. that was so -- so '80s. mark, thank you. we'll watch the case -- >> 1780s. 1780s. >> there you have. it glad you cleared that up. this will go on as the protests continue. nice to see you. thank you. happening right now across the country, workers are walking off the job. [ chanting ] >> fast food workers are demanding more money for their hard work in the $200 billion industry. ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] nothing gets you going quite like the power of quaker oats. today is going to be epic. quaker up.
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strike. also ahead, let's say you send a text message to someone who happens to be driving and they read it and they wreck. are you liable? don't believe me, just ask the judge on this one. and uploading nude photos of your ex to sleazy web sites and destroying their reputation. it happens, and there's a name for it. revenge porn. guess what -- now one very big state is about to try to pass a law to make sure you get punished if you do that. i want to take you to our top story, and that is the possible military strikes that could be looming again syria. the british government has issued a report just this morning saying that an attack would be justified, and they say so on humanitarian grounds. president obama is also now saying for the first time that there is no doubt that the syrian regime was in fact responsible for that horrifying chemical attack on its own people last week. and syria is also sending out
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some sabre rattling saying that it will take any steps necessary to defend itself from any form of an attack. joining us now is former u.n. chief weapons inspector david kay and cnn military analyst, retired major general james "spider" marks. david, i want to begin with you if i can. dr. kay, we've been talking about those weapons inspectors. you were one of these people on the ground, actually looking for this kind of forensic evidence. and i'm now wondering if it is a fool's errand and if it matters whatsoever what these inspectors find when you hear the rhetoric that we're hearing now. >> i don't think it's a physical's errand. i think it -- it matters. it matters at least politically in the united kingdom, and it should matter here. we have a strong overhang of iraq intelligence that was wrong. and a population that if you look at polling data, is weary of conflicts in the middle east and what to engage in another one. i think the report if indeed it shows that chemical weapons were
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used will go away to assuaging that matter. the worst situation, i can't really imagine it happening, is the report says we just can't tell whether chemical weapons were used and specifically which ones were used. i think the administration has a problem. >> and again, this is such a big question as to chemical weapons being used and chemical weapons used by whom which is the evidence when you're looking at the criminal case that is trying to be made at this point. i want to run something that aired on wolf blitzer's program "the situation room." spider marks, you were awesome in the way you explain exactly what it might look like for some of those military assets if they intend to strike against syria. let's have a look at it. >> we don't know, wolf, if there will actually be a strike. what we do know is that the process is well underway that could lead up to it. phase one, preparation. the planning, that's been going
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on for days. now talking about how this might happen. in fact, we're already into phase two which is the staging. and in military terms, you're talking about a possible strike on syria, what does staging mean. >> tom, what that means is the united states will take advantage of its strategic presence that's already in the region in places like italy, turkey, in qatar. they're going to increase their munitions stockpiles, their fuel, their medical capabilities, their ability to rescue downed pilots so that it will decrease the amount of time that the u.s. needs to strike. >> so they're building up far-away assets. let's move the map in closer so we get a better look. and let's talk about the close-up activity when you talk about syria here. we have these ships that have moved in to the mediterranean closer to the shore. what's that about? >> they just came from the sixth fleet. they're in the eastern mediterranean. they're over the horizon from syria. >> meaning they can't be seen from shore. they're a distance away? >> exactly, they're in a protected position. they can strike to any target that we would choose in syria. >> there would be submarines out
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there. there's also this -- interesting. this is called a raz. cones of airplanes essentially that are brought in. you believe a couple of them would be set up. the planes circling just outside of syrian airspace. what is this about? >> this restricted operation zonal louse aircraft to loiter in a very -- zone allows aircraft to loiter in a certain area and be prepared to be prepare -- against targets. >> this is in preparation for phase three if it comes. we don't know that it will, but the execution phase is when -- let me get rid of the airplanes so you can see it, is when we would have cruise missiles start launching into this country. some may come from ships, some may come from submarines, some may come from airplanes. how many are we talking about? >> we could see maybe 200. that's clearly an estimate. we saw 725 when we went to war in iraq in '03. 161 just two years ago in libya. so they would be -- they would
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be launched very, very quickly. the flash-to-bang time is instantaneous. >> amazing. just amazing to see that all play out. general, what exactly would the end game be here? what would be achieved by going in in that manner? and where might we end up? >> well, unfortunately, ashleigh, what we have under the scenario that tom and i were able to describe yesterday and as the president has described, he wants to very narrowly define this punitive action to punish assad for the use of chemical weapons. that's a tactical engagement. the end state has not been described. the strategy has not been described. there isn't a campaign in terms of trying to achieve an end state. so the short answer to your question is, i'm not certain what the president has described is very narrow in scope and will do damage to assad's ability to see himself and to prosecute war capabilities. but it doesn't answer the question.
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frankly, the sad irony is i think the administration wants assad to stay in place until we can further figure out what's going to take place. we really want to knock him down, not knock him out at this point. >> okay, dr. k., quickly. in the summary of intelligence from the brits, you know, it says that there's no plausible culprit other than the syrians who actually perpetrated this. is that strong enough, that the likely evidence is that the syrian government did this? is that strong enough to actually launch a strike? >> that's circumstantial evidence and clear under the context of british politics it has not been strong enough. if you read the reaction today in london from politicians. i think if all the administration has is circumstantial evidence, they're going to bear a heavy political burden. remember, it was in fact canada and senator obama who criticized the bush administration for not being more careful about the intelligence and not waiting for better intelligence in a coalition to move ahead.
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>> right. david kay, thank you very much. dr. k., always good to hear from you. general marks, great to hear from you, as well. thank you for your insight. at the top of the hour, senior citizen's "around the world" will -- senior citizcnn's "arou" will have more on syria and possibility of an attack. we have all the angles covered here on cnn. and still to come on "legal view," one state cracking down on revenge porn. that's when your ex posts inappropriate pictures of you on the worldwide web without your knowledge. huge reverberations like can you get a job after that. we'll talk to the state senator who is trying to make this a crime and make the poster pay. and then, you know texting while driving is bad. but now you could actually be on the hook if you're not behind the wheel and just sending those texts. i'm not kidding. we'll explain this next. license and registration please. what's this? uhh, it's my geico insurance id card, sir.
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hold the phone. literally. and do not send that text. if you're about to message somebody who'd is driving, in new jersey the law could come after you if that person ends up having a wreck. a new jersey appeals court ruled this week that simply sending a text can land you in legal trouble if you knew that the other person was in fact behind the wheel at the time you sent the text. i want to bring in our legal panel. cnn's legal analyst and criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor jeffrey gold. this is a good one. talk about chewy legal issues. really? i could be on the line if i just sent -- how do i know you're reading? how do i possibly know that you really are driving? you could be lying. >> yeah. everyone needs to calm down this case. here's why -- all the court says is theoretically it is possible if you send a text with knowledge that you're distracting somebody. that you could be held liable. and in doing so, keep in mind this court held that a teenager
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who was texting her boyfriend up to 100 times a day did not meet this standard. so before everyone get carried away and thinks that one text message is going to hold me, what we had call strictly liable, which means automatically liable without any other showing, that's not the case. >> what was peered about this was that the appellate court ruled that that teenager in fact was partly to blame for the accident that her boyfriend had, terribly injuring two people on a motorcycle, but did not hold her liable for it. and that makes me wonder can you extrapolate if i'm in the passenger seat and babbling to the driver as i always do that i'm just as liable there, as well? >> no, because what you're doing there is talking while the driver is concentrating on the road. so what happens here in negligence is this -- the question is, does somebody have a duty to another person and they established that, yes, you have a duty when you send a text to be careful. what they said then was this teen didn't violate the duty
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because the teen had no way to know that the driver wouldn't pull over and read it or just read the text later. while it seems like a big thing, they made a bigger hole to let people out where they said i thought he was going to pull over and read that. >> i've got a better one. how can you prove it was me typing? it's a keyboard, anybody could have been on it. i hear that in almost any criminal case that involves typing. thank you very much, don't go too far. if you could double your pay, would you walk a picket line? [ chanting ] >> yeah, i'm with you on that one. it's what thousands of fast food workers are doing this lunch hour instead of giving you your pretzel burger. we'll explain. so you can get out of your element. so you can explore a new frontier and a different discipline. get two times the points on travel and dining
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minimum wage is just not enough. that seems to be the rallying cry for fast food workers right across the usa today as they walk off the job to protest their pay. our alison kosik is watching one of those protests on the streets of manhattan today. is this really just all about the money? because it's not that fun of a job either. but does it come down to cash? >> reporter: that's one of the requests that they have. these fast food workers who walked off the job today, hundreds in new york. of course, we have to remember that this is just one of the many protests happening across the country in 60 cities, and money is part of it. the other part is they're hoping to unionize. once again, the bigger part is the money.
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they're asking for $15 an hour. more than double what the federal minimum wage is. the federal minimum wage, by the way, is $7.25. they're talk about it is one of the protesters, shaniqua davis. how much do you make an hour at mcdonald's? >> yes, i make $7.75. >> reporter: why is that not enough for you? >> i have a child to take care of. i have a family. i'm the breadwinner. and it's not enough. >> reporter: do you find yourself struggling to pay your bills? >> yes, i do. i feel like the big bosses come down, you know, from their big offices and come and live one month in our shoes they would see that $7.25 is not enough for us -- $7.75 is not enough. they'd be on strike with us. $15 an hour and a union is something we need. >> reporter: thank you very much. this is one of the reasons your seeing protests really gather momentum, ashleigh. this really got started back in november. and you have really seen the movement take hold. >> all right. $200 billion industry. you can understand where they're coming from. alison kosik, thank you for that. scorned lovers who post racy
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google your name sometime and then buckle up. you might be shocked, especially if you have a vengeful ex lover in your past and who doesn't have at least one of those? instead of finding your name and your phone somebody scrawled on a restroom wall they can now post naughty pictures on the internet. it is something that is widely known as revenge porn and the consequences of it are not funny. they can be crippling. for starters, you can lose your job. you can be unable to find a new one, and it could open up a floodgate of harassment from strangers and in fact endanger you and your safety would be at risk. so far not a whole lot can be done except in the state of new jersey, but now california has its eye on you. it is considering legislation to make revenge porn illegal and punishable and all by amending the state's existing privacy laws. the violate ors could get up to
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six months in jail and $1,000 in fines as well, and those would double if you do it more than once and get caught. the champion of this bill is state senator anthony canella and he joins me live. thanks for being with me. i think the first question i have to ask is people think if you're doing mean things like that online, it should be wrong. then on the other hand, there is a first amendment, and whenever you go after free speech, it is chilling. how are you reconciling those two very important concepts in our life, keep me safe, don't harass me, don't hurt me, but protect my speech? >> sure. i think that's a fair question, but right now it is not illegal to post these pictures and a lot of times the pictures are accompanied with cell phones, home address, work address, work phones, so it is truly harassment, and that's the standard that we have set. we're not violating free speech. by the way, free speech is not
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unlimited free speech. you can't go into a movie theater and yell fire. we believe this is not a violation of free speech. we have set the bar. it is very narrowly defined. if you post pictures that are nude pictures with personal information with the purpose of harassing or bullying, then that would be a misdemeanor. we believe this is constitutional and we believe it is very necessary because as you mentioned, it is a traumatic experience and some cases people have committed suicide, so it is a very serious issue and one that we need to take up. >> so, senator, obviously i think no one would disagree this can be so devastating to someone who is the victim of this, but in the meantime, the bill as i understand it, and correct me if i'm wrong, requires intent to cause serious emotional distress. how do you get inside the head legally of the poster who find if that intent was there? >> well, look, in this country we're all innocent until proven guilty, right? that's why we have courts and we have das that look at cases and
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weigh the evidence and see if there is a case they can bring to trial and ultimately they have to prove it to a jury of their peers. it is the same process we use in all crimes and that would ultimately be up to the district attorney. we believe this does meet the t test and they can be found guilt if i they engage in this may have. >> what about the sheer ownership rules. it is hard to determine who owns a photo, the person who took it, the person many it, perhaps it is a selfie. doesn't that play here as well? >> it does. this bill f the person takes a picture and they post it with the intent to harass, which will have to be defined by the courts, then that would be -- they would be guilty of a misdemeanor. again, we have narrowly crafted this to be careful of the free speech aspect and we believe that we're right there and this is the perfect bill to deal with this issue. >> fascinating. i think it is just the tip of the iceberg. senator, thank you very much for your time today and for your insight. appreciate it. coming up next, what to do
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as we get closer to possible military response in syria i wanted to he show you a couple of polls taken about the united states and how people here feel
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about it. for starters, when you ask americans is it in the national interests of the united states to be involved in the conflict in syria? look at the number. 27% say no -- but interestingly, when you are asked about the u.s. military action and if it is justified, you know, if syrian government used chemicals against its people, that number jumps to 66%. it is a little odd to try to reconcile those two notions of how americans feel about this. there is one person that feels very strongly about it and that's the former secretary of defense donald rumsfeld. hear what he had to say. >> what's lacking in all of this is the administration has simply not indicated what the mission will be, what the goal, what the outcome, what is our strategic interest? why is it we would be doing something? and until you do that, you can't explain to congress what your goal is. until you do that, you can't fashion a coalition of other
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countries to be supportive. we already know that russia and china have both indicated that they are totally against doing anything, notwithstanding the fact that the government at least, i don't personally know what the syrian government has done by way of use of chemical weapons but our government sounds very convinced they have used them and russia and china said that's fine, and it seems to me that that positions them in a pro chemical weapon position which is unfortunate. >> that's the former defense secretary and whether you are pro war or antiwar or pro strike or antistrike, we want to hear from you. submit your video to us. in the meantime, thanks for watching, everyone. it is nice to have you with us, a special report on the crisis in syria is next as around the world starts.
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welcome to this special hour in the crisis in syria. we would like to welcome our viewers here in the united states as well as those watching from around the world. i am suzanne malveaux. >> i am richard quest in for michael. >> we are following fast moving developments as the drum beat for military strikes is met by growing demands for caution now. >> "around the world" moment by moment, we're seeing new twists and turns in this crisis, so we are again devoting the entire hour to it and you will know all the angles and crucially how you may be directly impacted. at the moment u.n. weapon inspectors are back out collecting evidence from one of the neighborhoods where perhaps more than 1,000 people were massacred. "new york times" reports american officials say there is no smoking gun that

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