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hello, everyone. live from washington, d.c., i'm ab leigh banfield. >> i'm chris cuomo. happy to join you here. >> good to have you here, on this solemn occasion. we're standing outside a naval installation almost as old as the navy itself.
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a massacre claimed 12 lives here. the gunman who knew he was disturbed. >> the latest today, the navy yard will be closed to all except investigators. chuck hagel was here last hour, placing an a wreath in honor of the dead and wounded in building 197. >> that's exactly where the military contract worker and former navy reservist we now know as aaron alexis opened fire, shooting down colleagues with a shotgun, not a semi at maut ick rifle as first believed, though. we're also learning that alexis recently had sought help at two veterans hospitals, reportedly for psychological aissues. we're joined now by our justice correspondent evan perez with the latest on this investigation. get us up to speed on these changes in the details. clearly when these things start to roll out, evan, there are
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misreports that come in, specifically the weapon and about this person. but get us up to speed on the very latest if you could. >> right, ashleigh. as you know, these scenes, you've covered many of them, are always very confusing, even for law enforcement, enlaw enforcement officers who have done this for many years. yesterday the d.c. police chief at a news conference was telling us there might have been two other shooters. we now know there was only one. as you can see, the confusion of the initial event brings forward some of these confusing details. now, we know that he came on board -- i'm sorry. we know that he came onto the navy yard property yesterday with a shotgun. that's the latest information from investigators. we know that they recovered a couple of other handguns at the scene, one of them investigators now believe was taken from a guard. one of the first persons he is believed to have shot at the scene was a guard, and now we believe, according to the
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investigators, that at least one of the firearms was taken from the guard. we also know that right now they're going through the casings at the scene to try to determine who shot which shots in these types of incidents you have the first responders, the law enforcement officers at the scene, firing off shots. the suspect apparently was fire back and so now they have to determine exactly -- they have to catalog each shot and try to determine who fired which shot. >> and, as we understand, that's going to take days just to categorize that entire scene. but what about this car? i mean, chris and i had been talking through the notion there was a car driven onto the site and there was a hotel room where he was staying not far from here. there's got to be a lot of forensics they're looking at there. do we know anything about that yet? >> right. there are a couple of scenes they're still working, obviously at the navy yard.
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and at a hotel probably about a mile away in the southwest quadrant of washington is the hotel where investigators believe he spent the last few days apparently getting ready to start his job there at the navy yard as a subcontractor. now, we have pictures of fbi and other authorities taking away boxes of possible evidence. it's something that now they're going to try to piece through. one of the big, big questions right now is, what triggered this? we know that there are some previous incidents of violence in his past. he's had previous contact with the police. so now they have to try to figure out whether there's something recent that might have triggered this latest violent outburst. obviously the worst one he's ever been involved in. >> right. >> and that's part of the picture they're trying to put together today, ashleigh. >> evan perez, as you stay on that job, thank you for that,
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there's so much more to this picture as well we're trying to piece together. >> well, now he, now we have seven mass shootings that have killed 10 or more people in the last decade. you start to see patterns. early on it was confusing here because this suspect didn't seem to fit into one of the boxes. there was no stated agenda, no known mental health issue or grudge. but now there a a bit of a different picture developing as more information comes out. there's questions coming out as well. let's bring in pamela brown. early on, we didn't have any reason to be suspicious of this man's mental state other than the obvious act. but that's changed, right? >> that's changed. according to sources i've been speaking with, it appears that the gunman had a history of mental health issues. right now investigators are looking into the fact that he made contact with two veterans affairs hospitals recently. they're looking into whether that had to do with his psychological state of mind. they do believe that it did. but of course they're investigating the circumstances
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surrounding that. also interesting, in a police report, his father noted that he had suffered from ptsd after being involved in a 9/11 rescue effort. he had several run-ins with the law. >> he mentioned it as well when talking to police, right? >> he mentioned it as well. >> he identified himself as someone who struggled with memories of 9/11 and emotional somewhat impact on him from it. this was a common theme for him. >> right. he had three times he was arrested, 2004 arrested for shooting out the tire of another man's vehicle, 2008 cited for -- briefly jailed in georgia for disturbing the peace and arrested in 2010 for discharging a gun in public in ft. worth, texas. he was never charged in that case. you put the full picture together, the question mark remains, how did he pass two security clearances in the past year? >> that is one of the questions i believe that will be heavily debated not only when it comes to forensics but congress and
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the navy itself and the contractor issue and the cutbacks. there's a lot that has to play into that question. >> i was just going to add to that, we have learned also that in 2011 he was discharged from the navy, he was a navy reservist. we've learned that it was general -- general under conditions, if i'm not mistaken, still learning about this. basically he was discharged from the navy for a pattern of misconduct. so you also factor that in as well. >> a lot of muddy waters with this guy. you raised the question, what will this issue mean? i think it's the biggest question. i think how this particular individual got military security clearance. we often bandy about the issue of gun control and how weapons were obtained in a particular shooting, mental health and whether that could have been observed more carefully. but this is new. >> especially since this building behind us -- for a while we were getting different reports of how you get in, whether you go through a metal
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detector, whether your bags are scanned. no. you get your clearance, like this man got, and you're in. you don't have to go through a metal detector for everybody that enters that building. that is a critical, critical question. three arrests, plus issues with mental health that had been raised, yet a very high level of security clearance. >> yet according to sources he walked right into the building yesterday with a shotgun. >> once he had a clearance, that part was done. that's the question. >> that's the exact issue. pamela, thank you. what you haven't seen pamela doing off camera is working the phones all morning line. what it doesn't answer, chris, again, how do you get clearance when you have all of these issues, especially a pattern of misconduct? yet an honorable discharge. there is someone actually who can help us to understand a little bit more about that. she's a former military prosecutor and defense lawyer specializing in military justice. anita robins, hopefully you can
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help lay a little clarity over this disturbing, murky picture about a man troubled to say the least, yet got in there without a problem. >> it all depends on what level of discharge. i personally think he got out on a general discharge under honorable conditions, that's typically what you get if you have some type of misconduct. he gets out, has general discharge. now he's going for clearance. it all depends on what clearance they required. on some of them, you have to state whether you have any mental health issues because you can have mental health issues and hold a top-secret clearance. >> it's up to you to disclose it? >> yes. they can yank it if they find out you didn't disclose. there's secret level, top-secret level. >> cnn is reporting he had secret level two clearance, yet he did not have that clearance when he was active duty. >> most people who come in have a general -- do a basic background check when you just
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enter, basic level e-one, e-2. as you become an officer, it requires more. if he didn't disclose and they didn't check, this is how we may have ended up here. >> there is also question about the behavior. 2004, he got into the service even though he had a fairly significant criminal act in his background, shooting out tierz of a vehicle. he had an odd explanation at the time. >> anger blackout? >> right. those were the officers' words. obviously he described it in a way where he didn't remember shooting out the tires because he was so angry. he avoided the police for a while. you had a number of instances. i thieve the question that's obvious is, how do you adjust for that in your military vetting process, when you're giving someone clearance? let's get past the honorable discharge because that's a little confusing. but you have all these arrests surrounding it. how does that not factor in? >> if there was no conviction -- depending on the level, they'll do a check. if he wasn't convicted or if it
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doesn't show up, if they don't pick it up in the interview process depending on the level he received. >> the arrests should have shown. >> that should have been a flag. that's not an ought matautomati dismissal. people can have an arrest and still get a clearance, but clearly something may have fallen between the cracks or someone saw it and decided to give him clearance anyway. >> three arrests. >> and two attempts to get help from the va hospital. >> the clients i represent, if you have three, you won't make it through the first level of review. you'll have to come in in person and explain what happened. depending on how long it was. >> makes sense. >> anita, a flag should have come up. i think that's the headline of this entire morning. more to come in this area and thank you for your expertise. >> thank you. >> and your service as well to the country. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> george howell has been working very hard at another big story that we've been following from d.c. but in colorado. >> it's very important to get
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out there. george has been following the situation from the beginning, literally watching the waters rise there. weather's been an obstacle, rescuers have been under it because of the conditions. let's get to it now. what's the latest? >> reporter: chris, another sunny day here on tap. look, that's welcome news out here in this part of the world. it will help dry things out after several days of rain, heavy rain, and we also have some good news as far as the number of unaccounted for. we know boulder county has closed 567 of those cases. they now have 183 people who are unaccounted for. larimer county, according to their official twitter account, say that now 197 people unaccounted for. so, again, we're seeing these numbers go down substantially. what it means, it's people whose cell phones may have died, weren't able to call family or friends, perhaps phone lines were down in the neighborhood. they weren't able to call. so what we're seeing now, people are reconnecting with family members and friends. and the other thing officials
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are asking residents to do, if you reported someone missing, follow up with that report. let them know if the person is still missing or if that person has indeed been found so they can be crossed off this list. we're seeing the numbers go down. that's great news. if you look back here, guys, you see the river. i can tell you, from where i'm standing right now, a few days ago i would have been standing in the river. so fair to say the floodwaters are subsiding as well. it's all good news as we get more sun and more sun is in the forecast. >> george, thank you for the reporting. of course, as those waters recede, we're going to see what they reveal and all the people who have been under so much torment for so long still have a lot of work in front of them. appreciate the reporting from george howell. we're going to take a break now. on the other side of it, we had an opportunity to interview some survivors. it's really interesting what they have to say what was going on inside building 197 and what they had to do to get out and
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chris cuomo. it's hard to believe just 24 hours ago this place was teeming with people streaming out of this area. with law enforcement officers who didn't know the picture and now it's becoming fairly clear what happened. >> it's a huge task. they didn't know how many shooters there were. there were hundreds of casings exchanged, thousands of people who work in the area, thousands in the building they had to deal with. many didn't get to leave until midnight last night. imagine we didn't know what was going on, they couldn't contact family. but we had an opportunity to speak to survivors. this is why it was important, their own experiences of the pain and fear and many who observed what happened with their eyes and ears but what they noticed of the shooter in this situation and what it took for them to survive. here's the piece. it's a scene that's become all too familiar, reports of gun fire, panicked people rushing
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out of a building, countless stories of survive. witnesses of monday's shooting spree at washington's historic navy yard say the obvious -- this was a day they'll never forget. >> it's kind of sobering. i can't fathom what drives people to do things like that. >> steve sykora is an i.t. specialist who works in building 197. he says he crossed paths with the shooter when taking a work break. a walk he doesn't normally take. >> why did you notice him? >> just how fast he went around the corner and the way he was dressed he stuck out. not like anybody that should have been there. you ever notice how you walk real fast to a direction when you're intent on doing something. it just seemed that way. >> moments later, aaron alexis opened fire inside the building. >> how did he get the weapons in there? >> that's anybody's guess. i don't know. i was outside. i passed him. he didn't appear to have
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anything ic anything. i didn't see anything on him. just that he right in the door. >> the incident leaving those that work there wondering if they've seen alexis before. the shooter's name, his face, ever see it before, hear it before? >> you know what? he's been around. he's been around, you know. when they showed his face on tv, yeah, i know that guy, i've seen him around. >> because he does the same kind of work, i.t. contracting? >> yes. >> do you have any kind of recollection of him, any memory at all? >> fainjust faint. i've seen him around. >> alba gonzalez is another survivor. she and koe workers locked themselves in an office. but in the room next door, she said someone they didn't know barricaded himself inside, s.w.a.t. teams eventually pulling him from the room after they called police to report his behavior. >> when we called the office and
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the individual picked up, we asked him to identify himself and he just asked us, well, who is this? we identified ourselves and then he just hung up. >> that was the last communication you had. >> that was the last communication we had. >> the common thread among surviv survivors, their concern for those they work with and their loved ones. >> i hope that my friends and people that i know aren't among the fatalities and i get to see them again. >> so there are questions that come up from the observations, especially that the gentleman had. the woman says there was someone barricaded in. it is at a minimum a window into what the authorities had to deal with in there, who is this guy, why did he lock himself in the room? >> and he doesn't fit with what other people saw. he was at this break-neck pace. >> then we get to the suspect himself and the man interviewed in there, an i.t. specialist said, he was walking materi ini, no weapon, no bag. >> no weapon.
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>> one of the prevailing theories is he shot his way in. was there a double entry? these are questions the investigate rz have to deal with. also, he believed he could have seen him before. could he have been mistaken? of course. although he had identification, though he hadn't started his new job, he had been credentialed for some time. now, we had a profiling expert come on and say, this could have been rehearsal. if he had access, he may have been there before and he may have been rehearsing yesterday morning walking in without his weapon and figuring out what he wanted to do. these are considerations for investigators. >> i think it gives credence to the notion originally they thought there could be more than one shooter. at this point, we're talking a lot about the shooter. now it's time to talk about the people who matter more, the victims. through family and friends we're learning a lot more about these vkt victims, people who wait for hours to get what you can only say is the worst news imaginable, that their loved ones were kill nd this disaster. among the victims profiled by
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"the washington post," mothers, fathers, leaving behind teenage children. >> it's really tough. these feamilies are going to pa the price. we want to pay our respects. we know 12 people have been killed, only 8 were identified. we'll give you their names. mr. michael arnold, 59, a beloved husband and father of two grown sons, described as the best neighbor ever. he served in the navy for 29 years. >> sylvia frasier, 53 years old, she was one of seven children. also kathy gaarde, 62 years old, described as a loving wife and mother of two grown children and an avid washington capitals fan. she was just in the midst of planning for her retirement. >> mr. arthur daniels, 51, five children and nine grandchildren. he worked in a navy yard building off and on for more
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than 19 years. >> john roger johnson was 73 years old and was described as a delightful neighbor who loved children. frank kohler was 50 years old. he was married and had two daughters. >> vishnu pandit, a husband and dog owner. kenneth bernard proctor, 46 years old, loved his boys and his washington redskins. he was newly divorced but very close to his ex. they had been high school sweethearts and talked every day. those are the names we know so far. our thoughts and our prayers go out to the families. we'll be right back. my asthma's under control. i get out a lot... except when it's too cold. like the last three weekends. asthma doesn't affect my job... you missed the meeting again last week! it doesn't affect my family. your coughing woke me up again. i wish you'd take me to the park. i don't use my rescue inhaler a lot...
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welcome back live in washington, d.c., i'm ashleigh banfield along with chris cuomo. will we're getting breaking news from barbara starr at the pentagon who tells us the secretary of the navy ray mabus is ordering a full review, i'm
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going to read this verbatim, of all physical security at the navy and marine corps installations. the first review will be a quick look to ensure that all physical security requirements are being met and then the second review will be a deeper review to ensure that the right physical and personal security requirements are in place. i don't think this is any surprise, given what's happened here, that someone with absolute clearance, security clearance, secret level two security clearance, was able to access this naefl yaval yard behind us firing off a weapon killing 12 people before he himself was killed. >> it goes to the power of asking the questions and scrutinizing what happened in the situation. it does a little bit to address the immediate need, to find out how he got in and if he was able to get weapons in and how. but there's a bigger issue this doesn't touch. i'm sure the secretary and his staff are aware of that. a lot of this vetting is done by private contractors. they're going to have to figure
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out what the review is, what the checks are in place, if this is a money issue or not, if it's just about practice versus policy. that's the big concern that's been raised here in terms of what lessons can be learned. this is a first step but certainly not the final one. as we're doing our analysis here, there is attention paid to the shooter because we need to learn about motivation and planning to protect against this in the future. and as much as we have to study who this was, we are getting new photos of the navy yard killer, aaron alexis. we're going to put them up for you now. they're showing a variety of his lifestyle photos we've gotten, a picture is developing of this man. >> one of the unusual things i don't know how this struck you, chris, when i learned he was a practicing buddhist, when i learned he spent so much time vacationing in thailand, it was not the profile of who i expect to pick up a weapon and kill 12. >> you know, it is a very
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defined philosophy, buddhism, and being someone who has a violent tendency and appetites does not square with the philosophy involved there. so there are those considerations as this picture develop s of the man. and we will continue to examine him because of his motivations and give our respect to the family as the number of those who were wounded and killed come out, we'll show respect. >> i think it bears mentioning that some of the people who have supplied these foet photos to c friends of the shooter from white settlement, texas, who owned a thai restaurant and described him as perfectly lovely and kind and quiet except for the fact that he played violent video games, but for the fact he complained about not getting paid -- clues they may have provided. >> may have put sugar in the gas tank of the woman who gave us these photos. she gives the photos because she
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knew a different man and she wants everyone to understand what happened here. that's appreciated because we need the information. now, we're going to take a little bit of a turn here. we're going to stick obviously with the latest regarding the navy yard but there are other stories making news we want to talk about. first up, when it comes to the u.s., the russian plan on getting the assad regime to give up its chemical reactions. the devil will be in the details there with the latest in syria. we know a news conference earlier today with the french counterpart to our secretary of state here, the russian foreign minister, sergey lavrov rejected any u.n. resolution authorizing force against syria. the u.s. and france want to keep the use of force as an option if syria doesn't comply in a timely fashion. that's going to be a big issue. also, for the rest of the time this week, we're looking at colorado, for weather change. the good news is the sun seems to be out and strong. that will help the weather improve, help things dry up. the are requirequirement is obv.
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many people are returning to their home to find nothing left. hundreds are still unaccounted for. remember, a lot of these areas were remote. the floodwaters in colorado are slowly receding, but some of that runoff is heading directly toward nebraska and to very flood-vulnerable towns. we'll show you time-lapse video here as well now, another story. the costa concordia off the coast of giglio, italy. 20 months ago, the ship went down. shave righted the ship. look at the time-lapse video. amazing. >> just so remarkable to see. you truly get the idea of what a mammoth task that was. >> it's huge because it's a very sensitive marine area. remember, 32 people lost their lives there. a lot of emotions go with the raising of this vessel. now to see if they can get it out of there and also they can finally do a real investigative search inside the vessel, see if there's still anybody in there unaccounted for. >> that's the sad thing.
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yesterday. she said he was pleasant, that he loved being around the buddhists, but that he was upset over not getting paid for a contracting stint he had just done in japan and that he said he was frustrated about that and he wasn't getting enough benefits and there was a bitterness there. his former housemate also said his behavior had changed recently. she believes he may have put sugar in her gas tank. we're seeing there may have been a gradual shift. we do know that regarding the status of the people who matter the most, the victims, three people are in the hospital and we hear they're recovering, that they're doing better, conditions are imwill proving. one was shot in the head. she was very lucky to be alive. >> with that defensive wound on her finger as the doctor told us. the one i felt very distressed about was one of the metro police officers. it's not clear whether that officer is going to ever regain the use of his legs but that he is in good spirits according to his family and doctors. but, boy, that's hard to hear. >> two first responders were hit for sure.
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we know their response in this situation certainly avoided more violence, more killing because that was clearly the aim of the shooter yesterday. we are marking their condition, reaching out to their families, hoping everything is going to continue to go well for them and they can get out and continue with their lives. >> one of the things you were mentioning, this unusual -- we look for any kind of insight, any kind of detail we can when we learn the identity of the shooter. within the hours after learning the identity of a shooter, everybody tries to pinpoint why. what is the motive that would lead him to this building, that would lead him to kill 12 people until he himself was gunned down? and perhaps those who know are those who lived with him, worked with him, considered him a friend. our ed lavandera is in white settlement, texas. one of the places where the shooter spent a lot of time. >> reporter: aaron alexis' life here in ft. worth, texas, seemed to revolve around the happy bowl thai restaurant here.
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he was stationed not far away as a naval reservist here in ft. worth, and this is where the folks here who met him and spent a lot of time talking to him during the last four years say this is what he considered his family. they didn't really know much about his biological family. he never really spoke about them, they say. but he got to know a lot of people. the owner of the restaurant met him at a buddhist temple. the image a lot of people here have of aaron alexis is someone who spent a lot of time at the temple, seen chanting and meditating, a far contrast to the violent image we saw carried out in the washington, d.c., naval yard as well as the information we've learned about the arrests for gun violence, one in seattle and another here in ft. worth. an interesting juxtaposition that the folks here, friends that had befriended aaron alexis over the last few years are struggling and grappling to put together. but one of the things that really stood out to one of his friends was there was a dispute
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over money with a defense contractor that alexis was working for. one friend said he was involved in a dispute, didn't feel he was paid properly for some work he had done. but they also said in recent months before he had left the ft. worth area to continue working with the defense contractor that he had seemed to kind of shy away from everyone, spent a lot of time locked up in his room and didn't really come out and talk to anyone anymore. >> he didn't come out of his room much. played a lot online games where they were shooting all the time. we were joking about that sometimes because we were like, his computer screen was lifelike, big and, wow, it's like he's shooting people a lot. >> reporter: we do know that federal investigators are very interested in hearing what his friends here in ft. worth had to say. investigators spent several hours meeting with the owner of the restaurant and other friends. we do know they've been in contact with other friends and other folks in the area, trying to piece together who this man
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was. what could possibly have been the motivation in this attack. ed lavandera, cnn, ft. worth, texas. >> ed reporting from ft. worth for us, thank you. it's such an unusual circumstance in that suburb of white settlement around ft. worth where these friends are mystified by this behavior of this shooter. >> a lot of question s about wh he was and how he obviously changed. but an even bigger question is how he got military clearance. we'll take a break now. when we come back, you'll want to hear what's in his past. we'll go live to the pentagon. barbara starr has more about what this might mean for the state of security at united states naval bases. we'll be back. [ female announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms.
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welcome back live from the washington navy yard. i'm ashleigh banfield along with chris cuomo. and this beautiful sunny day belies what happened just one day ago, a roughly 26 hours ago >> there are new developments in the story. one critically important to the central questions here about how the shooter got clearance, military grade clearance, to be in the building behind us. we want to get to barbara starr at the pentagon because there is new reporting on this. barbara, the word is that there will be a review of security, that that's what the secretary of the navy is saying. tell us about it. >> exactly right. chris, ashleigh, good morgning. the civilian top leader of the u.s. navy, ray mabus, now is expected to order later today a full security review of all navy and marine corps installations.
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he wants to do two thing s we'r told. he wants a quick look at everything to make sure that all of the physical security requirements are being met. are people doing their jobs at those security gates, at the checkpoints? that's the first thing. then he wants a longer look. are the correct require thments place? are there other personal or security measures that need to be instituted to ensure safety? much like we saw at ft. hood in 2009 after the shooting there, the military taking a very serious look to see what else needs to be done. but this is centering a lot on the physical security at these types of ins slaigs slaigss li
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navy yard, the deeper, perhaps more pertinent question at the moment is clearances. how do people get security clearances athat allow them legal access to these bases if they are such troubled individuals and if they're going to carry out these terrible acts of violence? so there's a big additional part of this to come. what were the security clearance procedures that allowed this man to have legal access to this base? chris, ashleigh? >> you know, barbara, let's get that even bigger because there is a report, a government audit, that is in the process of being released to the public about cutbacks that may have actually increased the security risks in installations like the building behind me, that actually at one point it's listed allowed 52 felons access on a regular basis to installations like this. what about that audit, and is that a direct result that we're seeing today, what secretary maybe us is may bus is doing? >> you're asking me questions
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that we don't have clear answers to. to be transparent, we don't know the answer. first, i think secretary mabus would have certainly ordered this review regardless of any other report. this is very standard procedure, even if it wasn't, the navy would want to take a very fast look at security procedures. now they're going to move forward and try and look at what the security clearance proced e procedures are. that's the second part of this. >> boy, and a very big part of it. barbara starr, doing a great job digging out the details from the pentagon f pentagon for us. thank you, barbara. >> probably at the end of the day, as we look down the road, we've done a lot of this type of reporting, it can't just be about money. there are systems in place. always are going to be mistakes that are made. but the questions is, how closely are we checking? who are these private contractors doing this important work? there are places to save money and places to not. if anything positive comes out
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of this, it will be the analysis of how you do security at places like this. >> it's important that the secretary would have ordered these reviews regardless of that audit, more than likely. >> absolutely. we'll take a break now. when we come back, ashleigh has been saying all morning the people who matter the most are the victims. we'll talk to dr. janice ralouski. she's in charge of some recovering. we'll go there after the break. [ male announcer ] campbell's angus beef & dumplings.
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i'm ashleigh banfield along with chris cuomo. this rampage yesterday came just as the pentagon's inspector general was wrapping up what we've been talking about, this audit of naval base security. specifically costs and who gets in and who stays out. one lawmaker who has seen this audat this time says it's pretty disturbing. >> it said that in the inspection report that the people who worked there were at risk and in fact, cited 52 felons able to get through the system inappropriately. it said that the system that was currently utilized by the navy did not meet federal or dod standards and it actually made a recommendation that the system that the navy was deploying immediately cease to be used.
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>> all right. let's bring in dana bash now at capitol hill. dana, if you can hear us, obviously, you know, we've heard what congressman turner has to say before. now it's got new relevance because of what happened at the navy yard. what do you think is shaping up in terms of a battle over security? >> absolutely. as soon as this inspector general report becomes is public, it's going to hit home even more if it is, in fact, this damning as is congressman turner says it is. you know, one of the questions that was asked of him in addition and some of the things that i've been hearing sort of chatter about is whether or not the sequester, those forced spending cuts that start at the beginning of the year, if that contributed at all to this. and you know, what i've been told is the answer is absolutely not because contractors have been used for years and years really since the end of the clinton administration. that's when it started to expand. so it's a security system in particular, not necessarily who was getting through the system, meaning if it's a pentagon
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employee or a contractor. grz. >> dana bash live for us on capitol hill. thank you for that. it is the not the last we're going to hear about that battle, not only that battle but the gun control battle, as well. a lot more ahead. we're back right after this. it starts with little things. tiny changes in the brain. little things anyone can do. it steals your memories. your independence. ensures support, a breakthrough. and sooner than you'd like. sooner than you'd think. you die from alzheimer's disease. we cure alzheimer's disease. every little click, call or donation adds up to something big.
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welcome back live in washington. chris and i have been focusing a great deal on what went wrong here yesterday with the shooter. and the focus is more importantly on those who lost their lives. we're just getting word of the new names of the victims that have been released. we've had several names already released and now getting new ones. 51-year-old arthur daniels of washington, d.c., 51 years mary pran sis knight of reston, virginia, 58-year-old gerald reed of axdryia, virginia. 54-year-old martin boudreau of and dale, virginia, and 52-year-old richard michael ritual of west minister, maryland. the names are far more important in this story than the shooter. >> the families of those lost here, the families and those who were injured and the survivors
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who just live the nightmare, our hearts and prayers go out to all of them. we want to end with an image here, navy strong, something birthed after the boston bombings. now the navy must find resolve to overcome what happened to its and its workers. >> this image just coming up on a building where we are right now. thanks for joining chris quo me and me. i'm ashleigh banfield. wolf blitzer is coming up with continuing breaking news. i think farmers care more about the land
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