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the billy ray cyrus interview. guns, america, miley. it's all tonight on cnn starting with "outfront" at 7:00, "ac 360" at 8:00, and "piers morgan live" at 9:00 tonight on cnn. thank you so much for watching. see you back here tomorrow. "the lead" with jake tapper starts now. mr. putin, tear down your ego says our first guest, senator john mccain. i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." the world lead. so you think americans aren't so special, president putin? well, senator john mccain would like a word with you. 800 words, in fact, about what an iron-fisted tyrant he thinks you are. the senator talks to us about his scathing op-ed to the russian people. the national lead. they say they were minding their own business in an airport when a strange man subjected them to a paranoid outburst. to their shock, they now believe they had a brush with the navy yard killer. also in world news, the catholic church spends way too
much time obsessing over gays, abortion and birth control. calm down, it's not me saying that. it's the pope. hi, everyone. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapperme ertapper. we'll begin with breaking news. the syrian regime has until saturday to provide a full listing of all its chemical weapons, but by the time that deadline arrives, those weapons could be in completely different locations than the ones the syrians may be disclosing. i want to get right to our pentagon correspondent, barbara starr. what have you learned? >> reporter: jake, cnn has learned that the u.s. intelligence community at this hour has new information indicating the regime is moving its chemical weapons stockpiles around, that this has been going on since the day kerry/lavrov agreement was signed. they trying to figure out right now what the syrians are up to, what is the motivation. are they moving them around to consolidate them for security,
to report them to the international community, or are they moving them around to hide them from international inspectors, multiple u.s. agencies tell me this is going on. the motivation, as one official said, call me skeptical. there is growing worry today at this hour at the pentagon and in the u.s. intelligence community, diplomacy may be playing out on the tv screen. behind the screens, no one is really sure what the regime is up to with those stockpiles. jake? >> barbara starr, thank you so much. the deal reached between the u.s. and russia to strip syria of chemical weapons hangs in a delicate balance before the u.n. security council. now with the americans and russians sniping over the details, russian president vladimir putin can't help poking rather than wrestling the bear here at a forum today. putin once again said military intervention by the west as the u.s. is threatening in syria has not worked out so well in the past. he also would not say whether russia would back strikes if syria ends up not complying. it's been eight days since putin
trolled the american people in an op-ed for the "new york times" a lecture over syria that included a dig at the idea of american exceptionalism. quote, it is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, he wrote, whatever the motivation. americans haven't been this angry at a russian since ivan drago killed apollo creed. senator john mccain took major offense to putin's words. a week ago on this very show, the senator said he would like a chance to respond in a russian publication and today, has done just that, on the english russian news website, the senator writes to the russian people, quote, president putin doesn't believe in you. he doesn't believe that human nature and liberty can rise above its natures and build just, peaceful, prosperous societies or at least he doesn't believe russians can so he rules by using those weaknesses by corruption, repression and violence. he rules for himself, not you. unquote. putin's response? he said he hasn't read it yet. then he appeared to rip senator mccain for choosing pravda.ru.
>> i don't know about that. about the senator. the senator has his opinion about things. he wants to publish in such a publication which carries great authority and is very widespread. its publication shows a lack of information. >> joining me from the capitol, senator john mccain. senator, your piece was published on the website, not in the century-old communist newspaper. why not? >> because we submitted it to both. the old line communist newspaper said that unless i took the pro-communist line about syria, then they couldn't publish it. so obviously we sent it to both, got it published in one, but mr. putin has made comments about me
in the past which i am flattered by. >> senator, the news that barbara starr just broke at the top of the show, these reports that u.s. intelligence agencies say the syrians are moving around the chemical weapons stockpiles, we've heard rumors of this for a few days. what's your reaction? have you heard this as well, and do you think that this ruins any agreement between kerry and lavrov about what to do with these syrian chemical weapons? >> well, we had that information several days ago, it was on the front page of the "wall street journal" and who should be surprised. by the way, our friend vladimir, and i call him vladimir -- >> that's sweet. that's nice. because you're friends. >> -- said quote, that the rebels launched the chemical attack, this is the one that killed 1400 people and 400 children, that the rebels launched the chemical attack as quote, a sly provocation. now, does that give you a lot of
credibility about mr. putin's word for things, when he still maintains despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, he's claiming still that the free syrian army launched these chemical attacks? that should give us some indication of his sincerity. look, i hope all this works. i pray that all this works. but to really see this whole scenario unfold is really beyond the imagination, so i'm not surprised. >> that's the question, senator, because you suggest in your op-ed and for years that putin represents corruption, he represses the human spirit, and yet we as a nation are sitting here trusting him now for this syria deal, and as you say, you support that. i mean, i know you're skeptical that this is going to come through but is it possible that we are actually weakening our own hand in our showdown with assad by even going along with this, do you think?
>> well, this whole comedy of errors has weakened us dramatically. it's given putin an entry into the middle east that the russians haven't had since 1973. it's made our allies very unsure. remember, the president of the united states said that we were going to launch a strike. then he said he had to go to congress to get permission to do so. we all know it was an offhand remark by secretary kerry that triggered this whole thing, when a sly old guy like lavrov took advantage of it, and now we are seeing evidence that they are moving these around and already, there are rumors that they will not meet their deadline of this saturday. so of course i'm very skeptical but i'm also worried about the impression that the united states of america has given the world, as far away as pyongyang as to whether our conviction and our strength and our power is,
which is usually the most influential way to get things accomplished. >> senator, i want to switch to a couple other topics while i have you here. senator ted cruz, your colleague in the senate, today suggested that he might filibuster if defunding obama care is not tied to funding the government. what's your response? >> i think senator cruz is free to do whatever he wants to with the rules of the senate. i will again state unequivocally that this is not something that we can succeed in and that's defunding obama care, because we don't have 67 republican votes in the senate which would be required to override a presidential veto. >> so why is cruz doing it and why are house republicans doing this? if it's obvious that they don't have the votes to do it, why continue? >> well, i do note with some interest that most of the people who are doing this are new and did not have the experience that we had when the american people who don't like government, but
don't want it to be shut down, reacted in a very negative fashion towards congress for doing so. so i am absolutely sure that there are ways that we can force votes on obama care from time to time and the american people are not in support of it, no one fought harder against it than i did, but to somehow think we are going to defund it is simply not going to happen at this time, and it will, in my opinion, as it did before, harm the american people's view of the republican party. >> so why is boehner doing it? is he just terrified for his job? what's the reason, if you know it can't succeed, he knows it can't succeed, your party will ultimately probably be held responsible for it, why is john boehner going ahead? >> you know, you have to have john boehner on. >> you can give me informed speculation. >> jake, i don't know except that i think it's pretty obvious that he has great difficulties within his own conference. but i can't second-guess john
boehner. he's a friend and i think a great leader. i really can't second-guess him. but i can tell you in the united states senate, we will not repeal or defund obama care. we will not. and to think we can is not rational. >> senator john mccain, thanks so much. >> thank you. coming up on "the lead" who were the voices inside his head? a brother and sister believe they might have been the target of the navy yard killer's paranoia in the days before the shooting. and they will join me next. later, the biggest opening day ever and it's not even at the box office. how did grand theft auto pull in almost $1 billion in 24 hours? la's known definitely for its traffic,
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welcome back to "the lead." in our national lead, new details in the gruesome shooting at the washington navy yard earlier this week that left 12 people dead plus the gunman. fbi director says they now believe aaron alexis began shooting randomly immediately after he emerged from the bathroom with his sawed-off shotgun. wasn't aiming for specific arguments as he moved to the third floor and the lobby of building 197. this new information comes as we are beginning to learn even more about the final weeks of aaron alexis' life. he told rhode island police last month that he was hearing voices and was being followed by three people who were sending microwave vibrations through his body to keep him awake. he said the three had been sent by someone he had argued with at an airport. i spoke to a family who thinks he may have been talking about them.
brother and sister michael and glenda boyd were waiting for their flight at a very airport last month when they encountered the man they now believe to be the navy yard shooter. i asked how their encounter went down. >> my family and i were at norfolk airport, returning to birmingham from a lovely weekend, and we were sitting there waiting to depart, and this young man approached us from behind, sat -- stood next to -- stood next to us and just puzzled, with his hand on his head, just standing there. he wanted to know was this lady laughing at him. that lady was my aunt. rosilyn ball. i said she's not laughing at you, she's just laughing. he stood there for a moment, he
left, he come back about five minutes later, and he walked around in front. sitting there was my sister-in-law vivian boyd, myself and my brother, michael boyd. he stood about two feet from us and he said that lady, she laughing at me, she keeps looking at me, what's she laughing at, you know. and i said she's just laughing, you know. she doesn't even see you. and he wasn't satisfied with that statement. so he started, you know, getting a little belligerent and started using profanity and going off, and he kept reaching towards his midriff, his waist, like he was reaching for something, maybe a weapon. and he never did get any, you
know, retrieve anything, but he just kept reaching and he just got louder and louder and cursing and more and more, and my brother commented, he stepped in. >> michael, what did you do at that point? were you worried that he was going to do something? >> i was kind of like startled. i was like this guy here, that's pretty strange for him to come and confront us like that. my aunt didn't even want to look over near him and he was paranoid. this guy must be paranoid. i told him, my aunt wasn't even thinking about you, i said you need to go back over there and sit down. that's when he just started saying all kind of curse words and he just went off on us. i got up and walked over to the lady who was taking the boarding passes and told her she needed to get security. i guess about three or four minutes later, security came up and we told him he was sitting over behind us and they walked over there and calmed him down,
i guess. >> but they let him stay in the airport? >> yeah, they let him stay there. >> they actually was telling him that if he didn't -- if he was to approach us again, that they wouldn't allow him to fly. so he stayed in his gate area. he didn't say anything else. michael walked further down the airport and stood by -- at a sports bar and just stood there and watched television until it was time for us to depart, to stay out of his vision. and when it was time to depart, we left. but he never come back around us. >> what's really strange about this -- go ahead, i'm sorry. >> he just went back over to his seat and sat down and just -- was just looking strange at us, you know. it was like weird, you know. >> very. >> that never happened to us before like that.
we had just come off a great vacation. >> what's especially strange about this is a few days later, he was in rhode island and according to the police report, he had told police that three individuals that he met in the airport in virginia, he thought were following him and laughing at him, and he was still acting in a way that can be described as paranoid and deluded, and you believe that maybe he was talking about you? >> yes. yes. i really think that was targeted towards our family. and that's what really strikes me as strange, because i thought it was over, it happened, we moved on, but to think that it really affected him like that, when i read that he had vibrations from the laughter in
his body, that was really striking to me, and to know that we were still on his mind, you know, in such a way. >> how soon after -- >> amazing. >> how soon after the attack on monday and the release of the killer's mug shot, how soon after that did you realize this was the same man that you had encountered more than a month ago in the airport in virginia? >> for me, the same day. >> i knew immediately tuesday morning when i woke up, that's the first thing i saw was him. i was like man, that's the guy. the guy i had the confrontation with. yeah. it freaked me out, man. >> my sister-in-law called me monday when it was released and said glenda, turn on the television. she was so nervous, she was like turn on the television. i was like what, what, vivian, what. i turned on the television and i tell you, i started screaming.
literally started screaming. i was oh, my god, oh, my god, oh, my god, that is the guy. oh, my god, that is that guy. and you know, i just feel like we were so fortunate, fortunate and blessed -- >> to make it through that. >> i'm telling you, we were covered. >> last question for you, too. has anybody from law enforcement talked to you about this encounter? >> no. >> no. >> all right. i have a suspicion they will be. thank you both so much for your time. we're glad you're safe. >> thank you very much. coming up on "the lead" pope francis, some might say he sounds very unpope-like in a new interview. i will ask one catholic bishop whether he agrees, next. later, are politicians turning to cult classics for ideas now? when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover and learn from what happened
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to post humble brags but to stress the need for real humility. today, pope francis continued to shatter modern perceptions, giving a candid interview talking about being open to gays and lesbians and embracing prominent roles for women in the church. he also suggested the church has become obsessed with issues of abortion, gay marriage and contraception and needs a quote, new balance, to deliver its message. joining me now to talk about it all is bishop david o'connell of trenton, new jersey, the former president of catholic university of america. thank you so much for being here, sir. do you think these statements could lead to more people showing up in the pews this sunday or how do you think the public -- the catholic public will react? do you think perhaps his words will be met with resistance? >> well, no one can doubt pope francis has certainly taken the world by storm and grabbed the world's attention and it does seem that almost every day when he speaks, he says something
that focuses people's attention in a slightly different way on the message of the gospel and the message of the church. his interview today probably will surprise a lot of people, maybe even disappoint some, but i think what he said today is very much reflective of his thoughts and his feelings. >> pope benedict, his predecessor, is still around. certainly had a reputation for having different positions on some of these issues. how do you imagine he might be reacting to these statements? >> well, pope benedict was a scholar, a teacher, and that was the background that he brought to the papacy. pope francis was an archbishop, also a scholar, also a teacher, but has had more opportunities to serve people in a pastoral way as a priest. in his comments today, he said that the church needs to be a place of healing, a place to
warm hearts, and it's very important for us to be near to the people, and the message is similar to the message of other popes but it just seems that pope francis has the opportunity more often than not to put that into a very concrete visible practice. >> i want to read a bit of this interview for you and get your response. quote, we cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. i have not spoken much about these things and i was reprimanded for that. it is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time. pope john paul ii rejected the use of condoms to control the spread of aids. how much of a departure do you see this for pope francis from his predecessor sns? >> i think it is a slight departure. >> just slight? >> yeah, i do. i don't think it's a great departure. i think it's a slight departure. what he's saying, i think we
have to be very careful as we read, this was an interview. this was not an instant of papal pronouncement or teaching. this pope is accustomed to speak off the cuff and to speak in a very common way with people, and i think that's what you saw in this interview that he gave today. he really was just sharing some of his thoughts and reflections and i think what he is saying is when the media presents the catholic church, the media presents the catholic church almost in terms of these singular issues. the catholic church is much bigger, much broader, much more extensive and has a lot to offer. in addition to its focus on some of the specific moral teachings. i think that's really what the pope was trying to say. let's look at the church more broadly. the pope constantly talks about forgiveness and concern for the poor, about mercy. i think what he's trying to do is say hey, folks, the church has a lot more to offer than
just stringent catholic teaching on certain subjects. i think that's all that he was saying. >> lastly, sir, the pope says he was asked by someone if he approves of homosexuality. he replied quote, i replied with another question, tell me when god looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love or reject and condemn this person. we must always consider the person. how do you view a comment like that? is that him reaching out to the gay community? is it really just a new way of saying hate the sin, love the sinner? >> i think what the pope is talking about really is a fundamental love and respect for people of all kinds, all persuasions, all races, all orientations, that we really are obliged to love everyone. that's what the lord jesus has asked us to do. i think the holy father wants to emphasize that. in the teaching of the church and in the teachings of recent
popes, the church has always put forward that we should not discriminate against people because of their sexual orientation. i think this pope is just raising that up to people's consciousness, that we are obliged first and foremost, always and everywhere, to show love and respect for other people. >> bishop david o'connell, thank you so much. let's go to the green room right now. kevin madden, yesterday tea party favorite ted cruz was accused of telling house republicans they're on their own and trying to defund obama care in friday's big budget vote. then this happened, according to this tweet from dana bash. wow, house gop leadership aide just told me quote, wendy davis has more balls than ted cruz, unquote. now, cruz is saying he will do anything and everything to defund obama care. first of all, there's such a high school feel to all of this. do you think that insult to his manhood had anything to do with the about-face? >> i don't know. you know what, tell you what, there's nothing as brave as a
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welcome back to "the lead." the politics lead. it's a very complicated case. a lot of ins, lot of outs, lot of whathave yous. i'm talking about the looming debt ceiling battle and i'm also talking about that sage slacker, the big lebowski. hit it. >> really doesn't care about anything. he's a nihilist. >> he believes in nothing. >> he believes in nothing. nothing. >> so what, you might ask, is the connection between a blood-thirsty ferret into the bathtub and the debt ceiling. it was argued today that there's a strand of nihilism running through the public over the possibility of a default. crunch the numbers and you will find almost 6 in 10 people who say they don't want to raise the debt limit also believe not doing so will cause serious problems for the american economy. let's bring in our panel. cnn contributor and washington correspondent for the new
yorker, ryan aliza. margaret carlson and cnn contributor and republican strategist kevin madden. kevin, nihilist? that's not my theory, it's chris', but how can so many americans think this is going to be bad for the country, let's do it? >> well, look, i actually disagree with the movie reference. i still think right now the way these battles are breaking down inside the republican party up on the hill it's more like miller's crossing where you have different -- >> keeping it coen brothers. >> i appreciate it. >> i think what the distraction is, it's so much about process here inside washington, d.c. and the real message about why republicans are fighting on the debt limit isn't breaking through. that becomes a big challenge going forward. how is it they align themselves with a lot of the anxieties that the american public has about spending and deficits and a washington that is sort of working in an inefficient manner and how do they get back to showing that they believe in governing, they can govern in an able way. >> margaret, writing yesterday,
you said of the president if he's not a lame duck, he is certainly not roaring like a lion. does he bear any of the responsibility for this cliff that we're all kareening towards? >> when you [ inaudible ] i was thinking that crying a little bit of wolf over the sequester and all the times we were going over the cliff and horrible things were going to happen, then they don't, which is partly why you get these polls that have a certain nihilistic element to them where the public -- >> just don't think it's going to be that bad. >> and then there are those who say well, let's have some short-term pain for the long-term gain that the anarchists are promising us. before, what the gods would build they must first destroy so let's have it. >> we are getting very philosophical. >> i could do fargo for you and say someone dies. >> we talked about this, the people in the house republican
caucus and the power they wield. let's play some sound from individuals talking about the move to defund obama care and if it's not defunded, then the government will be shut down. >> republicans have no interest in defaulting on our debt. none. we just want to find a way to pay it off. >> we can't be general custer. >> i think it's a suicide and i hope enough of them will realize that. >> there are two things going on here, obviously, the funding of the government and also raising the limit of the debt ceiling. tell us more about what -- the kamikaze caucus. are there people who don't understand this money, that raising the debt ceiling, these are bills that we have already paid for -- haven't paid for, these are bills we already racked up, things congress has already passed, spending bills congress has already passed. >> it seems they have taken two issues. one issue, defunding obama care, which look, the polls show that obama care is not incredibly
popular so -- >> that's one way to put it. >> it's reasonable for republicans to continue chipping away at that. now they have tied it to something that is deeply unpopular and which every member of the republican establishment to the extent that they still wield power, agree is suicidal. that is using this to potentially shut down the government, default on the debt. seems like they made a huge tactical error tying those things together. but to defend the sort of -- if you look at the 80 members of the house that forced boehner to do this, these 80 republicans, i was looking at the numbers today, obama lost their districts by 22 points on average. these are deeply conservative districts in the south and midwest that don't view the incentives of the national party the same way. they are going to get re-elected, they represent extremely conservative people, they represent people who want them to do what they're doing right now. so boehner's incentives and the bulk of his caucus incentives are just not aligned. >> i think there's two tracks there tactically.
i think the first part for boehner, he has a choice whether he can just tell everybody this isn't going to work and it's suicide, or he can take the other track which is give everybody the vote that they want, the 80 members, and demonstrate that this is something that we've tried and now let's look at other options. i think in the long run, that is always where john's success has been, listening to his caucus, understanding, listening to his conference, understanding there are elements in there that demand a vote, giving it to them and working on trying to find a solution. >> he's tried other ways but now he's treating them like children, which is i'm going to let you have that second ice cream cone, then you're going to be sick and then you'll learn your lesson. but he's not leading them. >> having worked for john, this is his approach. he believes in the institution, he believes the house and the majority have to work their will. >> i don't think it's that he believes it. i think that's the situation he has. he doesn't have earmarks anymore to buy off votes. you don't run the house the way you used to run the house.
>> when they got rid of pork, they got rid of a way to get people to vote for things. >> that is a big problem. when i used to work for tom delay he called growing the vote and we started everything at around 190 votes and how is it that you grow the vote to 218 -- >> what did you do? >> we did a lot of listening and a lot of times you work with swing districts and you had to address whether there was a hospital or a road and a lot of that's gone now. hard to buy the votes. >> thank you all so much. when we come back, it's a game changer. last time around, it took a whole year to sell the same number of copies that just sold in 24 hours. what makes grand theft auto 5 such a must-buy game? plus, a cheating scandal of a different sort. an uptick in home runs leads to one baseball boss' resignation. this time it's because of the balls, not the players. if there was a pill
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. now it's time for the money lead. how big of a deal is grand theft auto? opening day sales for the fifth installment of the video game surpassed, wait for it, $800 million. that's more than the top four biggest box office opening weekends of all time combined. doesn't exactly sound like child's play anymore, does it? of course, the cost of one game is about six times the cost of a movie ticket but that still breaks down to about 13 million copies sold. you can't downplay the magnitude of such a successful launch. for a game that is supposed to only be targeted toward a small portion of the gaming audience. joining me now live from new york is dan ackerman, senior editor of c-net.com. dan, how on earth did they sell $800 million worth of games in a day? it's unfathomable. >> i think they have really built up the fan base for this game over the years, all the different installments. that's how you get up to a fifth sequel for something like this. i think there's really been a
dirth of big budget mainstream high quality games lately going into the holiday season. this is the first big holiday season hit. >> we should mention of course, the game as all grand theft auto games are, is incredibly bloody and violent, not appropriate for children. there are people out there, although we had an expert on yesterday who disagrees with this, people out there who think that playing these games actually has an adverse effect on individuals when it comes to violent thoughts and impulses, and still, they're just getting more and more popular. is the fact that they're bloody and violent really just one of the reasons why it's so successful? >> there is a cathartic effect to it. you have to say the $800 million number is even more impressive when you think it's what they call a mature rated game, kind of like an r-rated movie. it does cut your audience down. that's why so many big action movies try to get down to pg so they can sell more tickets. so far in the video game industry they haven't felt that same pressure.
>> the last call of duty game held the previous record with $500 million in sales. how does this launch change the game for developers moving forward? >> it's become such a hit-driven business. you have to have a big opening day or opening weekend for anybody to take you seriously. when you have such a hit-driven business, people get sort of risk-averse and don't get as creative. that's why you have sequel after sequel after sequel. that's why everyone focuses on a couple tent poles and you don't see the creativity that you would maybe in an art house movie. >> that's exactly what a concern might be, the same thing we're seeing in hollywood where all the good actors are going to tv because the movies that hollywood is putting out on craptastic and they can sell worldwide but are really not very good. i'm not saying that's exactly what's going on with grand theft auto but is some of the creativity in the gaming culture being harmed by this kind of scenario? >> i think a lot of the creative minds are actually moving into what they call indy games, small
teams where you can maimke a ga for an iphone or ipad. you can do it with a small group of friends and sell it for 99 cents or $2 or $5. i think that's where a lot of interesting stuff is going on right now. >> dan, thank you so much. liking something on facebook just got a big thumbs up from a federal appeals court. i'm not talking about liking baby pictures or engagement announcements or tirades about people who post "breaking bad" spoilers, but about endorsements of a political candidate. they have been ruled protected free speech, stemming from a case in virginia where a sheriff fired his employees for liking a political opponent's campaign page. the u.s. court of appeals overturned a lower court opinion ruling that liking something on facebook should get the same federal protection as putting up a political sign in your front yard. a huge night of cnn prime time coverage begins in just a few hours. here's a sneak peek. cnn tonight. at 7:00, "outfront." the navy yard massacre, how did a man with a history of mental
issues pass a security review? >> eight disciplinary actions that were kind of swept under the rug. sounds a little familiar to me. the political correctness. >> at 8:00 on "ac 360" were money and diamonds the real motivations behind pat robertson's work in africa? robertson denies it but anderson talks to the film makers behind the film "mission congo" about their explosive allegations. at 9:00 on "piers morgan live," the billy ray cyrus interview. guns, america, miley. all tonight on cnn starting with "outfront" at 7:00, "ac 360" at 8:00, and "piers morgan live" at 9:00 tonight on cnn. now back to politics for a moment. in addition to that big fiscal debate republicans in the house of representatives today continued to push, $40 billion in cuts over ten years to the federal food stamps program. republicans argue that the price of the program which costs $78 billion last year has ballooned and that cutting food stamps will encourage poor americans to
become more self-sufficient. earlier today, democratic congresswoman jackie speier of california lambasted those colleagues who want to cut aid for the poor while they themselves rack up pricey meals during travel to foreign countries, meals that they bill to you and me. >> one member was given a $127.41 a day for food on his trip to argentina. he probably had a fair amount of steak. another member was given $3,588 for food and lodging during a six-day trip to russia. he probably drank a fair amount of vodka and probably even had some caviar. that particular member has 21,000 food stamp recipients in his district. one of those people who is on food stamps could live a year on
what this congressman spent on food and lodging for six days. >> congressional decorum prevented speier from naming names but we are restrained by no such protocol. we researched the public records and discovered gop congressman steve king of iowa and frank lucas of oklahoma. we have not heard back from those men. the top stars on tv want more bucks for their bang. we are talking final season of "friends" kind of money here. [ male announcer] surprise -- you're having triplets.
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secretly switched to a livelier ball with more bounce for the 2013 season. it didn't help him when earlier this week, an american broke the japanese single season home run record set 49 years ago. it's almost as bad as getting broken up with over a text. trent richardson, the former star running back for the cleveland browns, says he didn't learn he had been traded to the indianapolis colts until he heard it on the radio. the surprise trade went down yesterday. according to the radio station 92.3 the fan in cleveland, a friend called richardson and asked him about the trade. that's when he turned on the radio and learned it was true. that means not the browns, not the colts, not even richardson's agent clued him in. it will be interesting to see if his agent hears about being fired over, say, twitter. the pop culture lead now. hollywood executives are dealing with their own version of revenge of the nerds. the cast of the wildly popular cbs comedy "the big bang theory" is said to be gearing up for a battle for fatter paychecks as in "friends" fatter.
a whopping $1 million per episode. that's according to tv guide magazine. some of the stars have already secured higher salaries like mayim bialik. she will be earning $100,000 an episode under her new contract. the show has been a ratings winner in recent years, not to mention emmy wins for lead star jim parsons. late night tv has just not been the same without him but nbc may have found a way to give us old school johnny carson fans our fix. the network is planning to air a mini series on the comedian's life based on the biography "carson the magnificent" which profiles all three decades of the "tonight" show and will also include tidbits from his child into in nebraska. no word on who will be cast as carson or when the mini series will air. make sure to follow me on twitter. check out our show page at cnn.c cnn.com/thelead. that's it for "the lead" today. i'm jake tapper. i now turn you over to wolf blitzer.
he is right next door. he's not next door. he's in "the situation room" regardless. happening now, republicans in disarray over the threat of a government shutdown, with very sharp infighting exposed on social media and elsewhere. also, controversial some say creepy ads discouraging young people from getting insurance under obama care. do they cross the line? and from facebook founder to high-powered lobbyist, mark zuckerberg is up on capitol hill. we take a closer look at the tech guru's politics. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." federal government offices and programs closed, museums and parks shuttered, hundreds of thousands of federal workers furloughed without pay. that's the hard reality of a government shutdown and it's now potentially only 11 days away. house republicans are poised to