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on his part to slow this vehicle with his motor vehicle. he says cruz was injured by the suv driver when he suddenly pulled away. edwin mieses was critically injured. now police are asking for the publ public's help to identify these two people all in an effort to further peas together this puzzle that's far from complete. >> that was margaret conley reporting. thank you so much for joining me today. "legal view" with ashleigh banfield starts now. >> wanted in two u.s. embassy bombings, on the run for 15 years, and captured in less than a minute by u.s. special forces in libya. in one of two weekend raids on global terror suspects. the second one, however, did not
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go so well. also coming at you this hour, terror of a different sort at a track in texas. an indycar going trying into pieces. the driver and more than a dozen fans hurt. and no i.d., no boarding pass, no problem. how on earth did a 9-year-old boy outwit the tsa and airline security hopping on a flight halfway across the country. and by the way, where on earth were his parents? hello everyone and welcome. i'm ashleigh banfield. it is monday, october 7th. this is "legal view." let's start with the president. mr. obama appears to be making a strategic shift in the way the united states hunts down people we consider terrorists, from drone attacks to boots on the ground. and a dramatic example, two u.s. special operations raids in africa. both coming two weeks after a deadly attack by al qaeda linked
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terror group al shabaab. in a pre-dawn operation, u.s. navy s.e.a.l.s. landed on the coast of somalia. in their hunt for an al shabaab leader, they came under serious fire. so bad, they withdraw. and as far as we know, all returned safely to their ship. but 3,000 miles away in libya, u.s. army delta force coman doze captured a suspected operative at his home in tripoli. that man is anas aliey. he's been spirited away to a navy ship. he's wanted by the united states for the 1998 twin u.s. embassy bombings in east africa. barbara starr joins us live now from the pentagon. are we certain at this point that all of the u.s. personnel are safe and they all made it back? >> well, actually i asked a
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senior pentagon official that a short time ago and he said everyone is back safely. and as you say, the one in libya went off without a hitch, was over in a minute. somalia, not so easy. they came under heavy fire there. but they were able to get out of there, everybody is fine. no continwounded and no killed action. >> apart from the fact that the embassy bombings seemed to link these two raids, is there anything else that they went down literally within hours of one another? >> it doesn't look like they were related fall. i think what officials are saying is that you are beginning to see in a more public fashion perhaps this era on the war on terror. the big land wars in iraq and afghanistan to go after terrorists networks, that's pretty much gone.
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so we have seen drone attacks when they want to kill the target. make no mistake, that's what they're after, killing the target. and in that case, they use a drone. in both of these cases, even in somalia, they wanted to capture the target. they wanted to capture the person alive for interrogation. they were abe to do that in libya. in somalia, they ran into a firefight and they were not able to capture the person and made the decision to retreat. but we're just learning this morning in somalia the mission was to capture him. and that's why they went to the extraordinary risk of sending s.e.a.l. team six into somalia. >> and clearly there's a lot we don't know, and that is by design. but when you say they wanted to capture these targets instead of kill these targets, these are targets from 1993. i thought when i heard libya, this is about benghazi. we're talking about a decade and
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a half ago. >> well, let's take them one by one. you're absolutely right, of course. the man captured in tripoli said to have been involved 15 years ago in the 1998 bombings of the embassies in east africa. so he had been out of that picture for a while. but they believe is has networks and is under federal indictment for his role in the 1998 bombings. and justice being delivered years later. in somalia, the man they were going after there, very much a current target. an al shabaab leader, the network in east africa, linked to al qaeda. a lot of concerns about what this guy was up to. and that he was heavily involved
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in planning future attacks in east africa and attacks potentially against western interests. that's why they wanted to get him, ashleigh. >> just fascinating developments. thank you for that. as barbara just mentioned, the navy s.e.a.l.s. raid on somalia came on the 20th anniversary on the black hawk down battle in somalia's capital. it's fair to say that ended in complete and total failure. 18 american troops were killed, 500 locals were also killed in that operation. this operation was very different. it lasted only hours instead of two days. and joining us now is james marks. this was so remarkable to hear about this considering that no matter how long ago black hawk down was, it is still fresh and painful in the mind of americas and military members. were you surprised to hear there were boots on the ground instead
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of an attack? >> not really. it clearly is the way to get your hands on an individual. clearly our understanding and our intelligence was that this guy, this leader of al shabaab had information and we wanted to extract it. there was a risk reward determination made. let's get our hands on him and bring him out to connect interrogate him more and more. clearly the alternative would have been let's just put a drone attack on this thing and very precisely kill him and his local associated. but what we don't know is what is motivating these folks and what do they have currently on their deck of future operations. so i think clearly the intersection drives the decision making. and in terms of the coincidence of those two attacks, i think al libi was probably one pretty fleeting. that needed to be executed on quickly. and the other one, it was a
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compound that had a presence in a footprint. >> when we talk about what barbara was speaking of, and that's what they want information, they don't want them dead, but information from these targets, we're told al libi is on one of the naval ships in that region. what is the legality of interior gating on one of those naval ships? do u.s. laws apply? is it a dark zone? >> i don't know what that means. >> black zone. black operation site. a black site. >> clearly. he has not been given his rights. he doesn't have any rights. he's not a citizen of the united states. this is an sbroegs in a very classic sense. cia is involved, fbi is involved. there are current targets they want to pick his brain in terms -- >> that's what i mean. they want to pick his brain. what can they do legally onboard
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that ship and is it the same as if he were on u.s. soil. >> it's the same as u.s. soil. he doesn't have any rights. we want to he can tract as much information as we can and see if any of that is targable and gives the united states and its allies a better sense of what this individual knew. not only then, so that you can move fwrard with the prosecutorial route. and frankly, that's of less interest. what's amazing interest is what does he know now, confirm what he knows and deny what he may not know so we can do something with him and put him over the horizon for the rest of his life. he probably is sitting on information. we need to confirm or deny that right now. >> thanks so much for your insight. and then, of course what he was just talking about as al libi, who now is i assume not having a very good day on board that naval ship.
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there's another target. and there is someone who knows much more about this man than i, and that's cnn terrorist analyst. paul, you wrote a piece on this person. i believe you called him one of the most dangerous comapsders in the terrorist group al shabaab. i'm curious about that he's seriously dangerous in africa. but what about us in the u.s. how bad a guy is he to this country? >> well, al shabaab, the tir rift group said they want to launch attacks in the united states. that may actually be beyond their capability, but they said they want to kill americans across east africa. that was what they were trying to do two weeks ago at the westgate shopping mall in nairobi. he's viewed as sort of a senior
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operational planner. someone who has conceived a string of plots against kenya in the last couple of years. including a plot against the kenyan parliament. he's seen as a dangerous operative. and we've been speaking to a western intelligence informant who had deep penetration into al shabaab. and i believe one in the same person that he was dealing with within al shabaab, a guy who he describes as being the guy who handles the foreign fighters coming into somalia. a guy who had connections into an wear and allowed the american klarik in yemen. so a real mover and shaker when it comes to this. >> i'm also wondering how much of this operation in sending in the s.e.a.l.s. may have been a favor as well to work with the
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kenyan government to perhaps yield further information and further terrorists down the line? >> that's absolutely right. and given his track record, he would be near the top of the list of the sort of person that would be expected of orchestrating the attack that we saw in nairobi two weeks ago. now, the united states has not confirmed that he was a suspected master mind this in that attack. but you can get real informational intelligence about this terrorist group, al shabaab. this is a group that has threatened more taekds in east africa, including against americans. >> thank you for your perspective on the program today. appreciate it. heading into week two, if you're counting, of the government shutdown. and as of right now, sorry to report no end in sight. speaker john boehner adding to the uncertainty on the tv this weekend saying the house would not pass a clean debt limit
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increase. later on, this guy was part of that mob of bikers allegedly in new york that swarmed an suv. some new charges in that case and some pretty interesting defense stories. why they say, got the wrong guy. that story is coming up next. anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. live the regular life. phillips'.
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as we enter into week two of the government shutdown, the stock mart is down. 92 and some change down. maybe more significant number is that this dipped below 15,000 today. we're going to keep a close eye on wall street. that happened on thursday as well. so this is not an easy time for people on wall street or those who have a 401(k). we've two of this partial government shutdown will likely bring a little less anxiety to 800,000 furloughed federal workers because the senate is likely to pass, and the president likely to sign a bill, that's going to give them all the back pay when the shutdown ends. whenever that happens to be. the back pay bill passed the
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house unanimously. just feast your eyes and don't get used to it. less hopeful news, no signs that either side is bundling over the shutdown or the debt ceiling issue. we're now ten days away of the government's default on its bills and obligations. just listen to what john boehner told abc about a clean or unconditional debt ceiling increase. >> we are not going to pass a clean debt limit increase. i told the president, there's no way we're going to pass. the votes are not in the house to pass a clean debt limit. and the president is risking default by not having a conversation with us. >> so under no circumstances will you pass a clean debt limit? >> we are not going down that
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path. >> boehner says he also lacks the votes needed to pass a clean government funding bill to keep the government open. but if you ask the house minority leader, she says she has 197 democrats that would sign on and a whole bunch of republicans that she didn't name. and they say they're not going to negotiate on obama care or anything else with a government shutdown and risking the de faumts on our debts. so speaker boehner acknowledges that he and harry reid all but did agree on spending weeks ago but that the house republicaned would not go along with it. >> i gave the senate majority leader advice at the white house about how to proceed and how to avert this. yet, they refused da sh dash. >> mr. speaker, he says, and he said it publicly on many indications, that you came to him back in july and offered to
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a pass a clean government resolution that was $70 billion below what the senate wanted. they accepted it and now you've reneged on that offer. >> clearly there was a conversation about doing that. >> several conversations. >> several. >> and you offered a clean res lewis. >> but i and my members decided that the threat of obama care and what was happening was so important that it was time for us to take a stand. >> so now another wrinkle. at least when it comes to the debt ceiling. speaker boehner says he is not holding out for obama care changes. let me repeat that, he's not holding out for changes in the health care bill and law. now instead changing that fight to cuts an entitlements. medicare, social security. and that brings me to my next guests. gentlemen, welcome. this is going to be great. let me start with you, may i
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may, congressman messer. when i hear that the speaker is switching the battle now from this very aggressive fight over obama care, which so many of the freshman were sent to capitol hill to fight, and instead switching to entitlements, i'm wondering if you got that memo too. or if you sent that memo to the speaker. who is setting the agenda, please? >> the speaker is the speaker. i think what his comments acknowledge as this debate moved on, these two issues are now being combined. we've got the debt ceiling limit that comes in about ten days here. and more importantly how we're going to fund the budget in the next year. i think the speaker is acknowledging we have to do both of those things. i still believe there are ways to improve obama care. and clearly we've moved past where we were just a few days ago. >> let me ask you this, i heard senator ted cruz say other the weekend, and i'm quoting, the
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debt ceiling historically has been among the best efforts that congress has to reign in the executive. and it turns out, i think it's like 28 times over the last 55 times that the debt ceiling has actually been increased since 1978, there have been strings attached. so where do the democrats get off saying that it is untouchable? >> well, it's untouchable. we pay our bills as americans. it sometime to negotiate? absolutely. like what the speaker is saying. all along i've said what we really need is to put a real budget together. let's open the government, whether it's two weeks, sick weeks, but let's take that time to put together a real budget that starts to deal with the debt and deficit. and the only way you're going to be able to do that is by looking at everything. we've got to strengthen entitlement programs and medicare, social security. the shift is conversation is a good thing. but it starts with leader reid
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and speaker boehner actually being able to sit down and listen to one another. name calling is not going to get us anywhere. >> the thing i would add is that every major legislation that's actually reduced spending that's passed here in washington in the last several decades has come in conjunction with the debt ceiling conversation. >> the stakes have never been this high. sure there have been strings, but they've been threads. not massive cabled and ropes. i want to read you specifically what warren buffett said. i'm not going to read it, i'm go let him say it. because when warren buffett speaks, i listen, everybody i know listens, wall street listens and congressmen and women should listen as well. >> it makes absolutely no sense to let it be used as a lefer for
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other things. if you want to change laws on abortion or immigration, you name it, tax laws, whatever, let that be a piece of legislation that people hammer out. but to tie it about something whether you break the promises of the united states government, the people all over the world as well as its own citizens, just makes no sense. it ought to be banned as a weapon. it should be like nuclear bombs, too horrible to use. >> those are strong words. congressman, are you listening to a man like warren buffett, you republicans and your demands when you talk about the leverage of the debt ceiling? >> of course. known wants to see the debt ceiling breached. but with all due respect to mr. buffett, his comments ignore history. the leverage of the debt ceiling has been the times when we've come together as a nation and
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worked to pass plans that would reduce spending. we ought to do it now. you know, it's the president and harry reid who are saying they won't negotiate. the house republican position is we want to come to the table and we're being told unless the president gets his way, that he won't come. >> well, here is what i would say. >> quickly. last comment. >> let's not use the debt ceiling. we've authorized these bills. let's pay our bills. but let's pug a real budget together, get everyone together in a room, learn how to listen to each other, and get a real budget that puts us on the right track. >> thank you very much best of luck to you. nice to see you, this is becoming a special event. you can come back any time. >> exactly. >> i just want to let our viewers know as they head off into the sunset together, you want to stay with cnn for a
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special coverage on the shutdown. tonight on piers morgan, it's going to be good. tune in at 9:00 eastern. don't miss it. and something else you don't want to miss, the lawyer for the biker who was caught smashing the window of that suv said, hey, my client overreacted. but he says, you got the wrong guy if you think he took part in the beating. why his defense might actually be effective. and layer the incredible crash in indy grand prix in history. spectators injured as well. more coming up on that next. [ banker ] sydney needed some financial guidance so she could take her dream to the next level. so we talked about her options. her valuable assets were staying.
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welcome back to "legal view." i'm sure that you have seen at least some portion of the video of the biker swarm story where hundreds of bikers were on a street in manhattan. one suv was surrounded. a bump, an attack and escape. and then a bloody drive on the ground. and now word three people have been arrested, three people have
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been charged. at least two of them saying you got the wrong guy when it comes to the actual beating. and at least one person in that crowd, an off-duty undercover cop. margaret conley reports. >> reporter: rental nald chance seen here pounding his helmet on an suv car window made his first appearance in court sunday. defiant as he flipped off reporters in court. he faces charges including gang assault and assault in the first degree and criminal possession of a weapon. his attorney says the charges are too severe and says his client wasn't even there when this man was pulled out of his car and beaten. and a witness says the bikers went after his wife as well. >> my client obviously overreacted in smashing the win co. but beyond that he was not a participant in any assault on that victim. >> reporter: another victim seen here trying to open the door and
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on court on saturday and is now facing some of the same charges. and now this biker, christopher cruz, who appears to be slowing down in front of the suv when it was struck. >> i think the media is being unfair with me. >> how so? >> because they don't know who i am. they don't know what actually happened. >> what should we know about you? >> that i'm a family man of go kids. i have a 2-year-old and a 6-year-old. i try to stay away from trouble as much as possible. >> reporter: and his attorney weighed in as well. he told cnn that he wasn't slowing down. saying there was no intent on his pa rt to slow this vehicle with his motor vehicle. edwin mieses was critically injured. his family says he's paralyzed. now the police are asking for the public's help to identify these two people who they believe were present at the assault all in an effort to further piece together this
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puzzle that's far from complete. >> and joining me now is cnn legal analyst and defense attorney mark o'mara. i'm dying to ask you. there's so many aspects of this particular crime. let's start with this one. we've got three guys who are facing charges. at least two of them saying it was the other people. i may have been there but i didn't get involved in the actual fighting and hurting. in there's no video showing them doing it, how hard is that to prove for the prosecutors? >> first of all, this is a traditional self-defense case. talking about the people themselves, it's going to be difficult to prove the case against them. because as we know, the state carries a burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt that these people commit the a crime. and if in fact these people were
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acting in concert with other people, that's a conspiracy. and they may charge him with conspiracy which is going to make the prosecutor's job easier. >> mr. cruz continued his interview with dan harris on abc saying i wasn't slowing down to bump that vehicle or cause trouble, ifbs looking for my friends. i want to keep that video looping if we can while you answer this next question. if he goes to trial, that will play over and over. does it even matter what mr. cruz might have been doing when he started to back up, perhaps into that suv? >> well, if his position is going to be, it was coincidental that i was slowing down right in front of the suv that was in the group that we were all antagonistic towards, and a jury may buy that. it seemed obvious from the video that what he was doing and looking back at the car is that he was looking at the car and slowing down. but yes, it may have an impact
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on a jury. i think the jury is going to look at this and feel the fear that the suv driver had and say this was a group surrounding the vehicle and acting in a way that gave him reasonable fear. i think cruz is going to be held responsible as to the other people as well. >> i mean, when i watch that over and over and you hear him say, i was looking around for my friends, it's tricky. it's hard to believe that when you see him looking behind at that bumper. thanks for being with us today. >> sure, ashleigh. >> coming up. horrific crash. incredible video as well. watch. the driver surviving this. we're going to hear from a man that was inches away in the beechers and hit by that debris and caught most of this on tape himself. and later a woman mauled by a tiger at an oklahoma zoo who
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what's your policy? welcome back to "legal view." you've seen these pictures. just a horrifying crash at the grand prix in houston landing the drive in the hospital and at least 13 people who were in the stands hurt as well. we have more. >> reporter: last lap who in houston. three-time indy 500 chap dario franchitti attempting to make a high speez pass instead going airborne. his car hits the back of another car, forcing his car to slam into the track side fepsing too. debris rained into the spectators stands injuring at least 13. karl daniel shot this unbelievable video of the crash from the stands.
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>> the other driver and his right front tire actually drove up or on onto the left rear tire of the drive he was attempting to pass. the car we want into the air and it started coming towards the fence. it all happened in less than a second. there was no time to move or run away. the thought in my mind was that these were going to be the last moments that i were going to be experiencing on earth. >> franchitti is hospital i'ded with initials ranging from a concussion, broken right ankle and spinal fracture that won't required surgery. he's married to ashley judd, but they announced they were separating earlier this year. the franchitti crash came ten days shy of a two-year anniversary of a spectacular indycar crash in las vegas. in the wake of that crash, came calls to protect the fencing.
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sunday's race was hold on a street surface. it serves as another example of a dangers associated with a sport that thrives on speed. >> coming up with no i.d. and no boarding pass and no grown up with him, a 9-year-old kid manages to sneak past airport security and gate agents and hop a flight to vegas, alone. that story is coming up. but first, a worker at an oklahoma zoo severely mauled by a tiger and she's admitting it's all her fault. we'll tell you what she did, why she did it, and why it's still a problem for the zoo. next. ♪ [ woman ] i'd be a writer. [ man ] i'd be a baker. [ woman ] i wanna be a pie maker. [ man ] i wanna be a pilot. [ woman ] i'd be an architect. what if i told you someone could pay you and what if that person were you? ♪ when you think about it,
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do not feed the animals, do not touch the animals? in oklahoma a worker at a zoo decided to defy those rules and put her arm in a cage and it did not turn out well. >> reporter: an horrific insurance department at this oklahoma animal rescue zoo. a 500-pound tiger attacked a worker feeding it through the wire fence and pulling her entire left arm through a tiny four-inch square hole. the zeros saved her arm. >> my heart goes out to her that one of my tigers did this. >> reporter: in a statement on his facebook, he said the employee violated the safety protocols of placing any part of the body inside the cage. he also wrote during the entire event she was awake and saying it was her fault. >> she assured me even in the helicopter that she was going to come back to work. >> reporter: it's not the first time this man and his park have
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been involved in controversy. in 2006 they suspended his license and fined the zoo 25,000 for several violations. and it's perfectly under investigation for the deaths of 23 tiger cubs. in 2011 the humane society conducted an undercover investigation for four months. an operative shot this video of what they claim was a tiger attacking a child. the regulations say only big catted up to 12 months old can interact with humans. the park site says it rescued -- >> and it takes tens of thousands of dollars to maintain a large carve vor of that type properly. >> reporter: they declared bankruptcy earlier this year and he asked for the public to help
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pay his 13,000 water bill. they say the four big cats are a full-time job and much more needs to be done across the country to regulate who can keep wild animals. >> there is a huge problem in this country with everything from lions and tigers that people are keeping privately. these are accidents waiting to happen. >> now thanks for that report. now, the zoo owner was live on cnn new day this morning and he was defending himself as well as the zoo over these allegations. >> i don't worry about what the humane society or peta has to say about anything. a., they're not here, and b. they don't know anything about our fas tis and c. i would not no kmont on a organization that killed -- while we work to give
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up everything in our lives to keep these animals alive. >> he added that saturday's attack is the first time that there's ever been an injury at least to humans at his zoo. coming up next, from tornadoes to floods to snowstorms, nasty weather is affecting a very big part of the united states. it's a good chance that you had one of those issues in your backyard. we're coming up next. i've always tried to give it my best shot. these days i'm living with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. at first, i took warfarin, but i wondered, "could i up my game?" my doctor told me about eliquis. and three important reasons to take eliquis instead. one, in a clinical trial, eliquis was proven to reduce the risk of stroke better than warfarin. two, eliquis had less major bleeding than warfarin. and three... unlike warfarin, there's no routine blood testing. [ male announcer ] don't stop taking eliquis
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so, this is the "legal view." but i want to give you the weather view for a moment. there's something serious brewing right now in the mid atlantic region. on the right side of your screen, i know it's hard to tell, but that is washington, d.c. and on the left side side of your screen, that is new york city. and specifically that crane right there, that was the spot where the crane proek during superstorm sandy during last year. and if you can believe it, there is is an actual tornado watch for new york city and a number of other areas along the mid >> i always panic when i hear about any kind of possibility of a tornado in a place that just is junked together with concrete and glass. >> no question. also even with the wind of 60 or 70 miles per hour, tree, going to come down. power lines down. right into baltimore, d.c., and
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west virginia. a large line of severe weather. north of spotsylvania county and la plada if it keeps rotating. all the way to albany from philadelphia. airports are a guess today. if you're in the area, literally watch out for trees and power lines that will come down as the weather comes down to your neck of the woods. ashleigh. >> you better keep on it, chad. >> i will. >> i'm watching out the windows and the weather got darker and darker. coming up, catch me if you can in real life. this time, the star's a 9-year-old kid. and no drama. it's real life. sneaking past security. sneaking past the gate agents and getting on a plane to vegas. how on earth can something like this happen? [ tires screech ]
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so any fourth grader on any given day would be busy going to school and back and maybe going to baseball. but not the 9-year-old kid that slipped through the tsa and gate agents and got on a plane to vegas. how did at the do it?
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here's george howell. >> reporter: this is where it all started. a 9-year-old boy walked off a light railcar thursday and into the minneapolis airport with plans to travel, but no ticket. he passed through the security checkpoints of tsa screening, no problem. then he continued on to the "g" concourse, specifically here at gate g-4. it's still unclear how he got past the ticket agent who is collecting tickets here. what we do know is this minor did board flight 261 and traveled 1600 miles to las vegas. officials say it wasn't until the flight crew became suspicious because he was traveling alone and contacted las vegas metropolitan police took the child into custody upon landing. >> i think they should take him to the table and let him play a little because his luck was doing well. >> reporter: terry tripler said
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the whole thing highlights big gaps in children especially when it comes to children. >> that 9-year-old child does not need identification. i can understand standing behind a family, officer whatever. they're not aware that he's standing behind them. i can understand that. i cannot understand the delta gate agent. this is where i put the major problem. it happens there. >> reporter: while no one would talk on camera, we did get a lot of statements, first from the tsa, especially saying they did their jobs. quote, the child was screened along with all other passengers to ensure that he was not a threat to the aircraft. and then delta, quote, delta is taking this incident very seriously and working with authorities in the investigation. due to the fact that it involves a minor, we are not commenting any further at this time. for the traveling public, we know the rigorous routine of the airport screening. >> we have to go through taking out shoes, putting them in the
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belts, go through the thing. >> reporter: it's a mystery how a child could have slipped through the cracks. >> i'm quite surprised that he got through security that we as adults got through. >> reporter: george howell, cnn, minneapolis. zh this story screams for a legal analyst, doesn't it that's where danny cevallos comes in. tsa, you can make the argument if children are hovering near parents, tsa's duty is security. >> my tsa agent always asks me to put mykys forward so my kids could tell them their name on their own. >> sure. the gate agent, you have to scan that ticket one way or the other. i'm pretty sure, i'm not a parent, but 9 year olds are not sitting on any parent's lap. >> 9 years old, any culpability,
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any juvy culpability? >> no, no, no matter what state, i doubt there's juvenile culpability however there is what's called a dependency position because is this child safe and are his needs being met? that answer may be no. and they may look into a petition and look into whether or not the house is a safe one. >> i can't wait to see what the parents' story is, whether they were currently looking for the child -- >> or maybe there's some culpability. >> you never know. danny cevallos, crazy story. thank you for watching, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. stay tuned for "around the world" coming up with suzanne malveaux and michael holmes.
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