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presidential george w. bush in austin. later, they honored the march on washington. >> no former president likes to be marginalized. they always like to be the center of attention, here we have four centers of attention? that is a lot to juggle. >> but for all of their smiles, a stage shared by leaders can seem small at times, so safe travel to the nation's leaders today. may you get along well with your seat mate. >> that is all for us, thank you for joining us, "ac360" starts right now. jake, thank you very much. good evening, everyone, as one official here in johannesburg put it, the world is coming to south africa to pay tribute to nelson mandela, the father of south africa. it is the single largest gathering of heads of state and gives just in a few hours, president obama, former president george w. bush and hillary clinton sharing air
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force one, former presidents clinton and carter flying separately, along with presidents and princesses and kings from other countries. many converging on a soccer stadium here in johannesburg, it is built were we're told, for 90,000, may not be big enough. here they come to thank the man who led them to freedom. now how many other figures can you say that about? that they led a country to freedom and showed the world a better way. i had the privilege today of spending time with bono, the band member of u-2, he knew mandela personally and has been a champion for justice since the late '70s. >> when you first heard that he had died, what went through your mind? >> stubborn until the end, you know? it was like he was playing this -- he was trying to outstare god, and finally, god blinked. >> his leadership was in part to
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get a ability, of not only his consensus, but also his ability to overcome the natural anger and resentfulness he would have in prison for over 20 years. he saw the need he had to overcome that. he had to put it aside. >> yeah, he refused to hate. not just because he had not experienced rage or lived with rage, but that i think he thought love would do a better job of liberation, of emancipation. because what sort of country would they inherit if people were further embattled against one another? this is the vision of the future, to be able to see the future. i mean, that is probably his gift, isn't it? >> we'll have more with bono and christiane amanpour and others, first, i want to talk to john berman. >> anderson, thank you, what an
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amazing scene it will be there in just a few hours. for those of you at home, please think about these words as we replay this next video. it is not even winter yet. >> oh, my god. >> now, that is not the sky falling outside dallas, that is sheets of ice, one guy said the apocalypse was starting. he was wrong, so far at least, but he was not alone, people across the country are slipping, sliding, getting snowed under or just plain freezing. others are cooling their heels, stuck in airports. a wall of flight cancellations and delays. first, here is "ac360's" randi kaye. >> reporter: in texas, the trouble it ice and lots of it. at this apartment complex in plano, look below. huge sheets of ice put passersby in the danger zone.
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>> oh! oh, my god. >> reporter: and where it is not ice, it is snow creating problems. in nevada, the search is on for two adults. james glantin and christine macantee, along with her three children and niece and nephew. they all went to play in the in the snow sunday, and have not appeared. freezing temperatures have officials on high alert. in the midwest, wind chills are 40 below zero. even dallas/ft. worth is in a deep freeze. about 20,000 customers are without power. and the airport, it is a mess. more than 2600 flights were cancelled sunday nationwide. about 400 of them at dfw. this man is documenting it all, from canada. >> dallas ft. worth, times are
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getting desperate. >> and if you think getting around by car is the answer, think again. in arizona, 300 vehicles got stuck in an enormous chain reaction. and in pennsylvania, a 50-car pile-up left one motorist dead. it took them so long to clear the road there that some stranded drivers had pizza delivered. this pile-up late sunday night in yonkers, new york, involved multiple cars. out west in milwaukee, more than 100 cars got caught up in yet 300 pile-ups. >> it was bad out there, just swerving through car, dodging cars, we ended up in the ditch. >> reporter: from state to state, plows are out in full force trying to prevent more deadly chain reactions. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> our thanks to randi, so that is the what.
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now chad myers with the why. chad, we saw the multi-car pull-ups, more danger? >> watch out for the black ice. and it is cold tonight again, especially in pennsylvania, west virginia, and if you get into the midwest and most people don't know this. but if you get the temperature down to ten, even a salted road will re-freeze. because the salt just can't get it melted any colder than that. the salt water that is salt on the ground will literally refreeze, philadelphia, baltimore, snow in d.c. tomorrow morning 6:00 a.m., probably four inches on the ground, philadelphia, probably three to five. new york city, a little bit less than that. it is the low pressure that came from the same place that the last one came from. it is coming down from the southwest and will move right over the northeast. now, the good news is, it is not going to bring ice. it will move quickly and be out
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of here in no time. so only four inches of snow, five inches, and not ten or 12 and not the ice, because we don't have warm air on top. the last storm we had warm air and ice. here is the u.s., henre is the northwest, here is texas, that was snow on the ground, that is what it looked like last year, no snow on the ground at all. >> chad, what about out west? the tragic case of the family missing in nevada. extremely cold conditions out there. any good news perhaps? >> it was 16 degrees below zero. i feel -- they're up here in the northwest parts of nevada. the only thing that i can hope for, for this family is that the tank of gas was full and they can use that gas to keep themselves warm and that authorities can find them before
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that gas finally runs out. if there is one thing you should learn from the lessons of these people, never let your tank below half a tank in the winter, you may need it for the electricity and power. >> chad myers, that is terrific advice, thank you so much. now let's go back to anderson cooper in south africa. john, thank you very much, we'll have more news from the united states. people are coming here to the nelson mandela compound behind me, ever since his death was announced they were solemn at times, joyful at times, this is somebody who helped them see a world beyond sometimes. tonight, the eyes were full of tears sometimes. more than four days on, south africa is a nation mourning. and a nation celebrating. those who knew him best are re-telling stories not always about the icon but about the
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friend. >> he really was like a magician. with a magic wand. telli turning us into this glorious multi-colored rainbow people. >> there were multiple memorials, this giant poster board has been it up oside mandela's home in soweto, where he lived. why did you want to be here today? >> we're here to remember, just to be where he was you know, when he came out. just to be with the people. you know, i think that is what is most important today is being among the people that love him the most. >> these three young people were babies when mandela was released from prison in 1990, but they say his message still applies to them today. >> he was the beacon of change and came right at the right
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time. there was so much we learned from the man, he had to draw on so many personal sacrifices. and he taught all of us, black, white, all across to reconcile, and just think about our future. and where we want to go. >> outside, another mandela home in johannesburg, there were flowers, notes and music. well, the memorial is tomorrow, and for many people, mandela's house here in johannesburg has been the place to go, to congregate and to bring love to the man of the people. tomorrow, more than 90 heads of state will join more than 90,000 people at the fnb stadium in johannesburg, the site of mandela's first speech since being released from prison. now it is the site where people will say good-bye. tomorrow with me will be chief
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international correspondent, christiane amanpour, she is joining us alone with brianna keiller. >> just one of those notes said thank you, madiba, without those notes we wouldn't have been able to get married. that is a racial couple, who would never have been able to get married under the old regime. what is incredible, people are joyful. i think people expected the country to fall apart once mandela died. but it really is a celebration, a great motiff of this place. you talked about music to sustained him in prison. and it kept his name alive in the worst and darkest hours of apartheid. and people all over the world were having celebrations and big parties for his birthday, through music. i think we'll see a lot of that at the memorial. >> it will start out with the national anthem. and the choir, bono will be
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there. i'll have more with my conversation with bono at this hour. the american delegation, a lot of presidents from the united states, former president george w. bush, mrs. clinton, along with president obama. what do we know about the group together on air force one? how exactly does that work? do they all hang out together? >> actually they did, we're told by a white house official that the obamas and secretary clinton were in the conference room there at air force one, hanging out and actually exchanging stories about their encounters with nelson mandela. it would have been a fascinating conversation, because between the three contingents there, having these experiences with mandela that spanned three administrations. you know hour it is on a long flight, even if you don't like the person you're traveling with, i think you need a little down time. the obamas retired to their
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cabin, and secretary clinton retired to the senior staff cabin. >> and president clinton, former president carter, they're coming separately on different flights. so many world leaders. it is going to be very interesting, not only from a security standpoint, but just logistically, you have world leaders who do not communicate with the united states. >> yes, you do, and i think that is extraordinary. and by the way, these guys are making a 17-hour flight. it shows you how much they want to be here. the president of brazil will be here, she will speak. the representative from the highest official from china will speak. and remember, china has a huge influence in africa now, almost taking over america's involvement. >> and the dalai lama will be there -- >> and raoul castro will be there. >> raoul castro. mandela was very close to fidel
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castro. we spoke to the american ambassador here, who told me all the story when he was a young man, activists, america played a big role. >> brianna, former presidents clinton and carter will also be here. how does it work logistically? they all have secret service details? how confident are they about american security here? >> i think they were all quite confident. if they were not, president obama would not be coming. but for president obama this is a little bit of a repeat. he was in south africa this summer, at that time, nelson mandela's health was so poor it was really touch and go. so you have had secret service in touch with their counterparts for sometime now. a preliminary plan was in place here. and i also spoke today with former administration officials to presidents clinton and bush who were instrumental in planning their trips to the
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funerals for israeli prime minister rabin, they say within four to six hours of nelson mandela already passing away there already would have been a support plane en route to south africa. they say it is a monumental undertaking, because some of the security issues are outsourced to the other countries and that can be difficult for secret service. >> well, we'll be there to cover it. starting at 3:30 in the united states, and you can follow me at twitter, @andersoncooperme. coming up next, my exclusive conversation with bono. [ male announcer ] introducing new fast acting advil. with an ultra-thin coating
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hey, welcome back, i'm live in johannesburg, sometimes meeting one of your hero can be a disappointment, sometimes, not for bono, who wrote a tribute to his long-time friend, quote, he had humor and humility, laughter, not tears was his preferred way. because of the damage done to his eyes in the long-term mine, he could not form tears, now, he could finally cry, and so could
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we. there is more of our conversation. do you remember the first time you met mandela? >> you know, i worked for him way longer than i met him. i think it was in dublin, in the four seasons hotel. it was not a very auspicious. we had many, many meetings over the years. >> what was he like? >> a lesson in humility, humor, and of course patience, but would always make you laugh. >> one of the things i find extraordinary about him, as a young man, the white regime used divide and conquer, to keep black south africans apart, to emphasize, well, you're a zulu, whatever your ethnic background may be. and he early on started to see the importance of being an african, not just the group he
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was born into. >> oh, you're really -- this is the piece we should really dwell on in his passing. who are the figures now for this? and why is that so critical? well, the only thing that can stop africa's dramatic rise to be dominant continent over the next century, is tribal issues, the population is really low, all of this must be conquered by a sense, as africans tell me, of togetherness. >> and mandela talked about poverty, an issue close to your heart. he said without the eradication of poverty, there can be no true heart. >> it is an act of justice.
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and this, like slavery, like apartheid, he said, poverty is not natural. it is man made and so it can be overcome by the actions of human beings. they said yeah, to -- some generations, forge a chance to be great. you can be that great generation. and i've been working for this man since i was a teenager, and he has turned my life upside down. or right side up. you know, working on this struggle as a justice struggle, not about charity, justice. same with hiv aids. you know, later when he lost his son to that disease, it became a very big deal for him. so he worked. his partner and -- archbishop tutu, the arch, which is what we call him, in the interview, the arch. he is amazing, if i don't do
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what he says, mandela is very persuasive, but the arch is a higher level. he says if you don't do this i will see that you don't get to heaven. the arch, i can't wait to see him tomorrow. i love him so much. and think of these two men, they came out of the same neighborhood. it is extraordinary. and god's provision for this country. because you can't explain how this tinder box did not go off, it is a miracle. >> young people don't remember what apartheid truly was like, some say, don't remember the reality of what life was like here for the majority of the population, the black population. >> that is true. and it is -- it is worth remembering. and perhaps this is why this moment carries with it such gravitas, there is a lot at stake. i think it is worth -- south
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africa is being reminded that its dna means one community moving out of the way for the other. that they are somehow -- their progress is strongly linked. >> is there an image of nelson mandela that you have in your mind's eye? i think of him leaving prison, that extraordinary moment when the world saw him for the first time? is there -- you knew him personally, is there an image you had in your mind? >> there is so many. but i think -- open face, open mind. and big laughing mouth. and more that than the fist in the air actually, for me. and you know, people say why are we paying so much take plaatten this man's passing. what do you say so somebody who
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may not understand, who hadn't been here, who doesn't remember? >> he represents in a way, the fist turning into a hand shake. that -- i think that is why he is so important to understand right now. he was not dr. king, he was not gandhi, he was a boxer. he was a fighter. and that he wanted to stop fighting to make peace with his enemy and risk everything to do so. he gave up his -- his wife, and his family. he put everything on the line. he won everything with that. except as he says himself, the only thing the enemy took from me was my marriage. but now, if you spend time with her, she is another one.
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>> did you believe -- that this fight would in the end prevail? that justice would prevail in south africa? i mean, in '79, in '80, '85, when you worked on the apartheid, you knew that right was on the side of south africa, but did you know that justice would be on their side? >> i thought it was extraordinary that there was support for apartheid. and this was probably worth remembering. our -- a lot of governments, our governments in different phases kind of supported apartheid. you know? and it is -- so it looked like they had a lot of support. but i think we all knew that freedom, you know, and justice and -- is a human right.
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and no human wrong could contain that. >> so is it sadness you feel today? >> both. i'm feeling -- i did feel a bit at sea there for a bit. but now i'm seeing the people in the streets outside the house, they're dancing. i'm thinking oh, yeah, the african way, irish of course, full of melancoly, the africans celebrate the life. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> and we've certainly seen a lot of celebration here, we'll have more from south africa here, more for the celebrations and the major event around this country and ahead. also one american freed from north korea, another still in prison. i'm going to talk to the sister of kenneth bae, and we'll get her thoughts. plus, a newlywed on trial,
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the u.s. veteran merrill newman is letting the world now about his ordeal after being captured there. his ordeal turned into more than a month in captivity. the report showed he had entered their country in their words, with "wrong understanding against it." and hostile acts against it,
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they say. that regarded his time during the war, in part if he could say it through counterparts. newman responded saying they seemed to determine my curiosity as something more sinister. he disavowed that so-called confession and apology that the north koreans made him videotape, saying he would be threatened with a long prison sentence if he didn't cooperate. he is fortunate to be home. and the tourist named kenneth bae is also in prison there. unlike newman, he was detained more than a year ago, tried, sentenced in may to 15 years hard labor. he is still there. his sister, terry chung joins us. i can't imagine what is going through your mind, i know you're clearly happy for the newman
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family but are deeply concerned about your brother. do you have concerns that they may have released your brother at the same time they released mr. newman? >> you know, we were happy for the newman family, but it was a bittersweet moment for our family to see the happy reunion and something that we have been fighting for, for the past 13 months. and kenneth esteem remains in prison in north korea. so that was a sad moment for us in that way. >> i know you recently got a letter from kenneth. what did he say? >> he reiterated his desire to just be home and be reunited with us. and you know, he knows the holidays are coming up. and he had hoped to be home by the end of this year. something that we have been praying for by the end of this year. he reiterated that he would need help from the u.s. government to bring him home. that it is not something that we can just do on our own.
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>> so he believes he wouldn't be released without some type of intervention by the united states. do you have -- i mean, have you been following this with the united states? has the government been in touch with you? is there a sense there may be some sort of attempt to send an emm i emmissary there? >> nothing that we're aware of specifically, i'm not sure if something is being planned or if we're not just being told because of the sensitive nature. but from where we sit it is very frustrating. it has been 13 months, so you know, i'm not sure what it is going to take. but we do want to see kenneth home now. it is far past time. >> how is your brother's health? i know your mom was able to visit him not long ago when he was actually hospitalized. how is he doing, do you yknow?
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>> i think he has been hospitalized for the last three months and that has contributed to his better health. but he has chronic conditions, i think he has a severe back injury, doesn't allow him to stand for more than 30 minutes at a time. so i think that is part of the problem, along with some of his other chronic conditions. >> well, i know you're aware that there are things seen globally. and it is very possible that the regime is watching it. what do you want everybody to know about your brother? >> kenneth is a man of compassion and love. one of our friends described him as an ambassador of peace and light in the world. if he was there in north korea to make a living as a tour operator to support his family, three children and his wife. he was also there because he felt compelled to help and thought he could bring economic
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development through tourism. and he had no ill will towards the country and the people in north korea. and he still bears no ill will, which is something he has made clear in his letters and during my mom's visit to north korea. so he is somebody who just has a heart of gold and a compassion and a people lover. somebody who really wants to -- the love for the people of north korea. and that is why he was there. to contribute in some way to make a positive contribution. >> well, terry, i am so sorry that you and your family are going through this, and wish it gets resolved quickly. i want to get you caught up on other stories, susan hendricks has more. and people are pleading for privacy, the one-year
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scientists say the bones belonged to a species that could be linked to neanderthals. >> we should all look so good at 400,000 years old. >> it should make you feel young. >> all right, appreciate it, susan. coming up next, crime and punishment and a horrible end to a honeymoon, however this murder trial comes out. it is just getting under way. the bride that is accused of pushing her husband off a cliff. we'll have details straight ahead. now back to anderson. and we'll also have more here in south africa. my conversation with david turnly, a pulitzer prize winner, some conversation on his amazing photographs when we continue. i'm beth... and i'm michelle. and we own the paper cottage.
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we're going to have more for you here in south africa, including amazing photographs from a photographer who was close to the man ddela family. first, john berman. and first from us, crime and punishment, the trial begins for a woman accused of killing her husband just eight days after their murder. after the first day of the murder trial, she could go to prison for the rest of her life. just before this was filmed, graham listened to her best
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friend testify for the prosecution. one of the first witnesses to be called in this case. back in july, she pushed her husband, cody johnson, and then he fell off a cliff in montana's glacier park. that is when investigators say she told police, in the openingsiopenings ing -- opening statement, she was painted one, as a naive young mother, and the other, a brutal killer. now, it will be up to the jury to decide whether this was murder or the worst accident imaginable. kyung lah has the story. >> reporter: jordan graham, slipping into court before dawn, her highly public murder trial. graham is charged with first degree murder of her husband of just eight days. their young marriage began with
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such promise. or so it seemed. this was june. jordan graham and cody johnson's wedding, their first dance. a song made for them by elizabeth shay. >> i used words like you helped me to climb higher for a better view, you're my safe place to fall. and so now when i hear those words it is a little creepy. >> reporter: creepy, she says, because of what followed. prosecutors believe graham was having second thoughts about her new husband. eight days after the wedding, prosecutors say graham texted her best friend, oh, well, i'm about to talk to him. her friend replies, i'll pray for you guys. graham said if you don't hear from me tonight, something happened. in a police interview, graham says she got in a heated argument with her new husband to where he tried to hold me down. prosecutors say they tried to cool off, going after dark to the glacier national park. in a police interview, graham
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says the couple hiked this steep trail where the fight continued. she says he went to grab my arm and my jacket and i said no, i'm not going to let this happen to me i'm going to defend myself. so i kind of let go and i pushed and he went over. when prodded by the officer, graham says the push was two hands on the back. 25-year-old cody johnson fell 200 feet face first to his death. his new bride could have called park rangers, but instead, she left. >> she went home and she fabricated this lie. and she lied to all the friends and all the family. >> multiple friends say graham lied to them, saying johnson was simply missing. prosecutors say graham then lied to investigators several times and even tried to cover up the crime by creating a bogus e-mail account to a friend named tony, writing fake e-mails to the
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police. friends say that they discovered johnson's body. then, came the funeral, and behavior that raised serious red flags. friends say graham was unemotional and was actually paying more attention to her phone than the eulogies. >> was she texting during the funeral? >> she was on her phone, and was texting on a mobile app. >> i knew right there something was not right. >> after multiple interviews, jordan graham later told police the truth. prosecutors say graham planned the murder and had raised the possibility that she may have blindfolded her new husband before pushing him off the cliff. >> you believe this was an accident? >> you know, i'll stand on what we discussed in court. >> reporter: graham's attorneys blasted the claims, calling the push a terrible accident, graham's lies? post-event mistakes and said it was gross over-charging. that graham was just 21 at the
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time of her husband's death, that she was 21, deeply naive and religious and was not exhale of murder. just about the only place that both sides can agree is that something both bizarre and tragic happened at all. >> in this wedding video just eight days, eight days before -- the death of cody johnson. kyung lah, how is the prosecution using this to try to prove their case about what happened on that cliff? >> well, state of mind is going to be the key for prosecution. what the prosecutor was saying is that they're going to make sure that the jury understands this is a young woman who regretted her choice. she was distraught. and texting multiple people. she was having suicidal thoughts. she had a problem, her problem
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was her new husband. and so she wanted to take care of it and calculated this plan, john, that is what the prosecution is going to say. the defense is going say yes, she regretted it. but this is not a calculating person, this is simply a young woman who was lying to try to get out of a serious mistake. >> quite a lot on the first day, kyung lah, thank you so much, appreciate it. now let's go back to anderson in south africa. thank you so much, my conversation with the pulitzer prize winner, david turnley, spending decades photographing. and shares his memories next. la's known definitely for its traffic, congestion, for the smog.
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well, everyone here in south africa of course, has memories of nelson mandela and what he meant to this country. but hardly anyone has had the extraordinary access of david turnley, a pulitzer prize winner and photographer. he has taken pictures of the family for 30 years and was invited to show some of his photographs. when you first came here in 1985 in this community in soweto, the humiliati humiliations, the day to day humiliations, it is sort of hard to understand. >> in soweto, where we're standing, in 1985, there was absolutely no jurisprudence for anyone in this country,
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absolutely none. you could be taken and detained for anything, at any time. the way this system operated, in every neighborhood like this, they would find somebody that they could effectively buy as a stooge, as an informant, who would recount to the local police authorities every single teenager and every single adult in the neighborhood that would attend any kind of political rally. those people would get picked up in the middle of the night. this happened systematically, you could go to anybody's house and it would have happened to somebody they knew. you could go to somebody's house, and given the fact there was no due process, communities would take on a kangaroo court justice and deal very tough with these informants. >> and with mandela and winnie, how did they deal with it at this time?
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>> together, they just brought together strength, humanness, compassion, but also a sense of being of the people. they have always been of the people. >> you took really an iconic photograph, in 1990, the day that nelson mandela was relea d released. what was that day like when the gates opened and you saw nelson mandela? >> well, the opposite is the gates could open and something could go wrong. and my concern was i could get one photograph out of focus, and i always thought i only had two or three frames, i had actually 26, they were all in focus. in those days it was film. the next thing you're doing is unrolling it to make sure it is back in the canister and light has not been exposed to it. and putting it in your front pocket. so i put that in my front pocket, jump understand the car, raced to follow the motorcade to be in front of the city hall, to find -- >> you ended up inside city hall in the meeting room with desmond
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tutu and jesse jackson and others who were waiting for man deadly a. that is hustle. >> yes, this is where i do get actually quite emotional, because you could hear the crowds outside, of course they didn't know we were inside. and tutu picks up the phone and says you have to come, if you don't, they will tear the place down. the door opens, and in walks 6'3" nelson mandela, the room was euphoric, he was in complete command. he just seemed to know everybody's names. and then archbishop tutu takes a glass, and then when you want somebody to be quiet when you make a toast, he was literally
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this close to mandiba, i have to tell you what your life has meant to me. and i could never repeat to you the eloquence of what he said, the whole room was just sobbing. >> david turnley, thank you very much. we'll be right back. my customers can shop around.
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