of the greatest leaders of our time. he was he was one of the greatest teachers. he taught by example. he sacrificed so much and was willing to give up everything here for freedom and equality, for democracy and justice. his compassion stands out most. he was angry at injustice. he hated hatred. he showed awesome power and -- with each other and with the true meaning of peace.
that was his unique gift and that was a lesson he shared with all human kind. he has done it again. look around the stadium. we see those representing many points of view and people from all walks of life. all i hear, all are united to y today. he left deep roots that reach across the world. >> as we listen to ban ki-moon praising nelson mandela, we want to welcome our viewers back from around the united states and
around the world. i'm chris cuomo, joined by christiane amanpour and robyn curn curnow. we've just had the grand children come up, huge applause. and the crowd erupted for them. then maybe the moment of the morning so far in terms of crowd recognition, when president obama and first lady michelle obama came on the screen. what did you think of that? >> i think it's to be expected. it's the first black presence in america and mandela was the first black presence here in south africa. many feel like there's a connection between their stories. barack obama himself said he was inspired by mandela's leadership. of course they never met. when obama was president and mandela was president, they didn't meet while he was president but obama has met him back in 2005. we'll keep listening to ban ki-moon who's talked about the rainbow nation, justice and got massive applause, the respect these leaders are paying to the people of south africa.
>> i hope it continues in tolerance and for prosperity and peace. nelson mandela showed us a way with a heart larger than this stadium and an infectious smile that couwas as powerful as ligh. nelson mandela is at rest. let us now be guided and inspired by the spirit he gave all of us, the flame of human rights, the beaker of hope. nelson mandela fought throughout
>> we just heard from the u.n. secretary general, ban ki-moon. he hit several important themes for the south african people. and some of them were, of course, the rainbow nation, hoping someday the dream is realized as a rainbow world and pointing out that nelson mandela said he wasn't just one man. the crowd loved that, of course. we are waiting for the u.s. president barack obama. he is supposed to be speaking upcoming. right now, we have jim acosta with us. you came with the president, obviously. >> that's right. >> what did you see in terms of security in the process of getting here, what was it like. >> lots of security, chris. there's no better way to get to a stadium than a presidential motorcade. when the president arrived in johannesburg and tried to make the trip into the middle of the city, there was a lot of traffic. he even got stuck in traffic at one point. there were people taking
pictures of his motorcade, tweeting out the pictures of the president stuck in traffic, heading into johannesburg. senior officials told us about this speech, nelson mandela means a lot to this president. the president had not really been working on his remark for what he's going to be saying today until after it was confirmed that nelson mandela had passed away. he's been working on this over the weekend and on air force one. doing that, while he had secretary of state hillary clinton and former president george w. bush and former first lady barbara bush on air force one with him. >> former president clinton was just seen. you heard the crowd react. it's a special thing about this occasion at nelson mandela's memorial, that you have regular people mixing in one place with some of the most important people in the world, christiane amanpour.
it is so unusual on that level. >> a huge crowd as we said. it is very unusual. a huge applause for the obvious. you know, president obama and ban ki-moon, it's extraordinary to see the huge applause for muga mugabe. he was a great liberation leader. he obviously overstayed his almost by decades but nonetheless, he was one of the original to cast off the mantle of white oppression. people here don't forget that. sometimes that's difficult for people in the west to get their heads around. we see them as dictators. raul castro, fidel castro, mugabe. president clinton is here, along with george w. bush. even though the world and especially africa hated iraq and the rest of it, they loved what he did with the amount of money
george bush pledged for combatting aids in this country. >> you recently interviewed former president bush about that here in africa. >> i did. during that interview, i think there is a sense that africans do feel a sense of thankfulness for what appreciate did for hiv/aids and anti-retroviral drugs. i did put it to him, about mandela's force criticism and tony blair, ahead of the iraq war. he called president bush a president that can't think properly. >> when i put it to president bush that he had been fiercely criticized, president bush in his very president bush kind of way shrugged it off and said he wasn't the only one. i think there is a general sort of acceptance that mandela was fiercely critical of many people. he could, because he was
mandela. but there was still the innate sense of respect for him. >> rick stengel, you're joining us as well. you knew nelson mandela so well, working on the autobiography and others as well. >> let's face it, chris, nelson mandela is today south africa's greatest export. it's what people know about the country. its grand south africa. i think the south african government is exploiting that in a positive way because they want people to have a positive impression of south africa. this is the world cup for them. but with nelson mandela as the centerpiece. and so far they seem to be doing it pretty well. >> rick, i appreciate the point. it's true. so much to coordinate here and
♪ can reach down and bless our hearts ♪ ♪ from his heaven above ♪ and when lips have praise ♪ they so sweetly sing ♪ pray for peace in africa ♪ to the loving god ♪ >> one of south africa's most famous songstresses, really, quietly making this crowd pay attention to the words of what she is singing. i think the resonance it's filling the stadium with is quite spiritual. >> it really is.
it's helping to really emphasize the mood here. you can basically make out on your screen, you see the rain. it's a misting here. it's not as heavy as it was before. not as heavy as it was before. it has meaning in this country. when the heavens open up, there's obvious symbolism there. this crowd is different. there's echos of song that are unusual that we're hearing here on every level of this massive stadium. you're hearing it now as well. >> on behalf of the commission. >> the director, the mandela
family, excellency president jacob zuma, the president of the republ republic. >> long live nelson mandela, long live. long live, nelson mandela, long live. can we appeal for those behind the stage to please tone down their singing. those behind the stage, please tone down your singing as our guest is now on the stage. >> thank you, program director.
his xlerexcellency, president j zuma, your majesties, your highnesses, excellencies, heads of state and government, ministers, leaders of communication. >> we're listening to dr. zuma right now. she was a very important figure within mandela's cabinet, obviously. she was also one of the first woman to hold a post like this. there is so much celebration going on among the crowd, that he asked them to quiet down before this address. we are listening in here but also waiting for u.s. president barack obama. he's supposed to be the next speaker up here at the nelson mandela memorial. and that was important, i think, that he made this point to crowd. because this is a memorial and it is a solemn occasion, but there really is an unusual
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no known dietary restrictions. for more information and savings options, call 1-888-xarelto or visit goxarelto.com. welcome back to our coverage of the nelson mandela memorial. we are waiting for the united states president to come and address the crowd. this has been such a unique spirit filling this massive stadium here, the first national bank stadium, soccer city, this is a celebration you have to say that. the crowd at every level has been singing. there's been chanting here. it's been quite an occasion. >> that's exactly right. it's interest be, it's obviously not completely full. there has been the rain. there have been issues with the transport. >> there's barack obama again with his wife, michelle. >> there they are again. we saw that picture when it was
shown live. it got a huge cheer. obama has come with former president george bush and former president carter and former secretary of state, hillary clinton. we also saw pictures of bill clinton, the former president. he came separately. interestingly, of course, chelsea clinton is there, too it always reminds me of the famous store bill clinton tells back in 1990 when mandela was being freed, he was in arkansas and says that he ran to wake up chelsea and said you must watch this. this is probably the most important thing you're going to see that will happen in your lifetime, the freeing of nelson mandela and the leading to democratic rule here in south africa. >> and robyn you were seeing that nelson mandela had become counsel for president clinton during his travails. >> they were presidents at the same time. president clinton, when i spoke to him last year outside his house on his 94th berth day was
grateful for the counsel he received from nelson mandela. he was particularly under fire during the lewinsky scandal. he'd have late-night conversations with mandela and he took comfort from the fact that someone like nelson mandela wasn't judging him and was trying to help him make it through this and trying to make him a better man as well. you get a sense that clinton saw him as a personal preacher or psychologist. but when clinton talks about those late-night phone calls, america with the time difference it was often 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning when he was phoning mandela during the daytime. he said mandela every time would ask about chelsea and often he would say, go and get chelsea. they'd go and get chelsea and he'd talk to her about her home work and clinton made a point of saying this is also why mandela was key. he always remembered people's families, the name of your wife. he had a deep regard for people's family situations.
and that spoke to a lot of the kind of man he was. >> dr. zuma, who is -- we're listening to right now, she's repeating some themes we've heard that mandela brought out the best in all of us and she would know. she was a member of his cabinet, the first woman to lead the african union. she's important to the people here as well. and that theme, if we can bring in rick stengel, the idea of nelson mandela as a uniter, it does not escape notice that there are many leaders here today who may not choose to be together ordinarily, notably president obama will speak, several speakers later, raul castro from cuba. what does that say about what nelson mandela's legacy means to the men and women in this room today no matter what their position, rick? >> well, chris, as you are suggesting, he's bringing together people even after his own death, rivals who would not probably have collaborated or even been in the same room under other circumstances. that was, i think, his signal and greatest achievement, that he averted a civil war in south
africa by reconciling white and black, by reconciling with his own oppressors, looking past what had been done to him and his people and trying to forge this new multiracial democratic rainbow nation. did he that by not really forgetting the past but certainly forgiving the people and realizing that south africa only worked if everybody put their shoulders to the wheel, white, black and brown. it's an extraordinary achievement. >> he saved the hissry not only of south africa -- >> christiane, what allowed men daal la to be special, allowing him to disagree with your policy strenuously, without mincing words but still maintained relationships. >> he did that with these foreign leaders we're talking about. he got many people upset by keeping friendships with castro,
gadhafi. but it goes back to what he did. if he could forgive and understand the story of the other when it came to the white oppressors of the apartheid regime, he could certainly do it with the other leaders of those who stood behind him. that is what he's all about. that's why people -- him because of his ability for personal forgiveness. very important conflicts have been resolved, for instance, the northern ireland conflict, for instance, others, which have taken a lot of their inspiration from mandela. >> i think i can add to that. one example christiane and i were talking about it off air, he used these different leaders and his relationship with these people for diplomacy, world
diplomacy. take the lockerbie bombing, for example. there was huge pressure on moammar gadhafi to hand over the suspects. he wouldn't do it. mandela flew to libya, convinced him to hand over the suspects as long as it was on a neutral country. he got the saudis to negotiate a scottish trial in the netherlands at the same time offering for the united nations to take down sanctions. so he really was able to bring together all these different strands and this sort of master stroke of diplomacy was based on these relationships that he had. >> and today he has brought over 100 dignitaries, leaders, past and present, some political rivals within their own countries, sitting side by side, here joining this crowd that has been here for hours and hours. the line started last night to
be here. it really is everybody coming together in terms of the ideals and message that nelson mandela embodied. that's probably the best tribute for someone who wanted to be remembered for the message. now, john king, you're joining us back in the states. when you think about that, the ability of what robyn was just saying, a man from south africa to get the netherlands together with scotland in an international affair and speak to leaders no matter where they were, whether critical or not and maintain respect, how unique does that make nelson mandela as a politician, let alone as a leader? >> i think he's one of the few singular figures of the 20th century. in terms of what he did. the awe people felt for what he did, the power of forgiveness, the power of unification, the ability to bring the country together, to have a peaceful election and to have an administration where he delivered on his promises with no recrimination. other politicians hold that in awe of his personal strength and political abilities.
and so, yes, i remember at the beginning i was at the mandela inauguration. you had the same scene, fidel castro in pretty good health. i remember walking by him in the hall that day. you had gadhafi. they were all at once at the inauguration and there they are today. it is the singular power of a unique figure in history. this does not happen. look at this scene. there have been many great leaders in history from all around the world. this just does not happen. you are in the middle of a rare and unique event because of the power of the power, the singular power, of this man. >> and also i think it's another musical interlude going on now here at the memorial. we are looking obviously at former bush, below him, former president clinton, and former president clinton joined by hillary, the former secretary of
state, and daughter chelsea. they're here, former president bush and his wife, laura there as well. there's been music mixed into the memorial since before it began. music was the first thing we heard this morning. most of it coming from the crowd, but then as soon as they got the sound system up and going, we heard it, we're hearing it now. ♪ >> you know what's so key about this, when you look at all of these leaders, just imagine the south african authorities trying to lias with the security detail with the heads of state. >> president obama is approaching the podium now. he's the next speaker up. that's what we're waiting on. ♪ our life is in your hands >> now, there have been a lot of questions raised about security here and before i came on, we were talking around and talking to security officials. >> castro, he's shaking hands
with raul castro. >> as christiane points out, president obama just shook hands with raul castro from cuba. >> from brazil. >> what does this say? >> it says this is a moment of re reconciliation for mandela. he's kissing now the u.n. secretary general, president zuma. >> this is a man, it is so true, who brought people together in life and he continues to bring people together today. he continues to bring people together in death. he's greeting president leclaire, the last white president of south africa. they won a peace prize together. >> john king, i don't know if you just saw it, president obama
just shook hands with raul castro, former leader de klerk and others as he came up. what does that mean politically? is it just about the moment? does that satisfy the interest of respect? how do you think it plays politically. >> this was -- this is a moment of reconciliation, tribute to a great man. it was not a time to make a political statement. you shake hands out of respect for the moment and move on. no doubt about it, there's also been criticism back here of some republicans who have said nice things about mandela. there's been a twitter conversationer ao conversation about he was a communist or socialist. how can you say nice things about him. that's silly season. that should just be set aside. you can have defenses with the policies but still recognize his greatness as a man, what he did to bring down the apartheid regime? will president obama get criticism for that brief hand shake? yes, he will. it comes with the territory, i
guess. i remember at the inauguration, al gore went out of his way, the vice president was leading the u.s. delegation, he literally ducked his way behind aides and doors to avoid fidel castro. an inauguration is different from a memorial service. raul castro was right there. i would say the president of the united states really didn't have much of a choice. had he lingered a long time, he might have started a bigger rowell than he was going to have. i think the president was showing respect for the moment. >> and president obama couldn't be getting a better warmup act. look at this, the whole crowd s is -- ♪ >> can i get a witness over here? ♪ >> no matter. ♪ my life is in your hands
>> my life is in your hands. ♪ my life is in your hands >> johannesburg, my life is in your hands. ♪ my life is in your hands >> durbin, my life is in your hands. ♪ my life is in your hands ♪ >> that was american gospel singer kurt franklin who just brought this stadium to its feet. the south african crowd dominantly was just going crazy to the stylings of kurt franklin. >> wonderful. just a sense like we're in the middle of half a party but it's a funeral, a memorial service. >> let's listen. this truly is what today is about, this moment captured the joy.
president zuma and members of the government, to heads of states and government, past and present, distinguished guests, it is a singular honor to be with you today. to celebrate a life like no other. to the people of south africa -- people of every race and every walk of life, the world thanks you for sharing nelson mandela with us. his struggle was your struggle. his triumph was your triumph.
your dignity and your hope found expression in his life and your freedom, your democracy is his cherished legacy. it is hard to eulogize any man, to capture in words not just the facts and the dates that make a life but the essential truth of a person, their private joys and sorrows, the quiet moments and unique qualities that illuminate someone's soul. how much harder to do so for a giant of history, who moved a nation toward justice and in the process moved billions around the world. born during world war i, fired
from the corridors of power, a boy raised herding cattle and tutored by the elders of his thembu tribe, madiba would emerge, like gandhi he was lead a resistance movement, a movement that at its start had little prospect for success. like dr. king, he would give potent voice to the claims of the oppressed and the moral necessity of racial justice. he would endure a brutal imprisonment that began in the time of kennedy and -- he would like abraham lincoln hold his
country together when it threatened to break apart and like america's founding fathers he would erect a constitutional order to preserve freedom for future generations. a commitment to democracy and rule of law ratified not only by his election but by his willingness to step down from power after only one term. given the sweep of his life, the scope of his accomplishments, the adoration that he so rightly earned, it's tempting, i think, to remember nelson mandela as an icon, smiling and serene, detached from the tawdry affairs of lesser men but madiba himself strongly resisted such a lifeless portrait.
instead, madiba insisted on sharing with us his doubts and his fears. his miscalculations along with his victories. i am not a saint, he said, unless you think of a saint as a sinner who keeps on trying. it was precisely because he could admit to imperfection, because he could be so full of good humor, even mischief, despite the heavy burdens that he carried, that we loved him so. he was not a bus made of marble, he was a man of flesh and blood, a son and a husband, a father and a friend. and that's why we learned so
much from him and that's why we can learn from him still. for nothing he achieved was inevitable. in the arc of his life, we see a man who earned his place in history through struggle and shrewdness and persistence and faith. he tells us what is possible, not just in the pages of history books but in our own lives as well. mandela showed us the power of action, of taking risks on behalf of our ideas, perhaps mandela was right that he inherited a proud rebelliousness, a stubborn sense of fairness from his father. and we know he shared with millions of black and colored south africans the anger born of a thousand slights, a thousand
indignities, a thousand unremembered moments, a desire to fight the system that imprisoned my people, he said. but like other early giants at the anc, zulus and mutombos, madiba disciplined his anger and channeled his desire to fight in the organization and platforms and strategies for action. so men and women could stand up for their god-given dignity. moreover, he accepted the consequences of his actions, knowing that standing up to powerful interests and injustice carries a price. i have fought against white domination. i have fought against black domination.
i have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and equal opportunities. it is an ideal which i hope to live for and to achieve, but if need be, it is an ideal for which i am prepared to die. mandela taught us the power of action but he also taught us the power of ideas, the importance of reason and arguments, the need to study not only those who you agree with but also those who you don't agree with. he understood that ideas cannot be contained by prison walls or extinguished by a sniper's bullet. he turned his trial into an indictment of apartheid, because
of his eloquence and his passion but also because of his training as an advocate. he used decades of prison to sharpen his arguments but also to spread his thirst for knowledge to others in the movement. and he learned the language and the customs of his oppressors, so that one day he might better convey to them how their own freedom depends upon his. mandela demonstrated that action and ideas are not enough, no matter how right they must also be chiselled in the law and institutions. he was practical, testing his beliefs against the hard surface of circumstance and history. on core principles, he was
unyielding which is why he could rebuff offers of unconditional release, reminding the apartheid regime that prisoners cannot enter into contracts, but as he showed in painstaking negotiations to transfer power and draft new laws, he was not afraid to compromise for the sake of a larger goal. and because he was not only a leader of a movement but a skillful politician, the constitution that emerged was worthy of this multiracial democracy. true to his vision of laws that protect minority as well as majority rights. and the precious freedoms of every south african. and finally, mandela understood the ties that bind the human spirit. there's a word in south africa,
ebuntu, a word that captures mandela's greatest gift. his recognition that we are all bound together in ways that are invisible to the eye. that there's a oneness to humanity. that we achieve ourselves by sharing ourselves with others and caring for those around us. we can never know how much of this sense was innate in him or how much was shaped in a dark and solitary cell. we remember the gestures, large and small, introducing as jailers, honored guests at his inauguration, taking a pitch in a spring-bought unifirm, turning his family's heartbreak into a call to confront hiv/aids, that
revealed the depths of his empathy and his understanding. he not only embodied ebuntu, he taught millions to find that truth within themselves. it took a man like madiba to free not just the prisoner but the jailer as well. to show that you must trust others so that they may trust you. to teach that reconciliation is not a matter of ignoring a cruel past but a means of confronting it with inclusion and generosity and truth. he changed laws, but he also changed hearts. for the people of south africa, for those he inspired around the globe, madiba's passing is
rightly a time of mourning and a time to celebrate a heroic life. but i believe it should also prompt in each of us a time for self-reflection, with honesty, regardless of our station or our circumstance, we must ask how well have i applied his lessons in my own life? it's a question i ask myself. as a man and as a president. we know that, like south africa, the united states had to overcome centuries of rascial segregation. it took sacrifice, the sacrifice of countless people, known and unknown, to see the dawn of a new day. michelle and i are beneficiaries of that struggle.
but in america, and in south africa, and in countries all around the globe, we cannot allow our progress to cloud the fact that our work is not yet done. the struggles that follow the victory of formal equality or universal franchise may not be as filled with drama and moral clarity as those that came before but they are no less important. for around the world today, we still see children suffering from hunger and disease. we still see rundown schools. we still see young people without prospects for the future. around the world today men and women are still in prison for their political beliefs and are still persecuted for what they look like and how they worship and who they love, that is happening today!
and so we, too, must act on behalf of justice. we, too, must act on behalf of peace. there are too many people who happily embrace madiba's legacy of racial reconciliation but passion resists even modest reforms that would challenge poverty and growing inequality. there are too many leaders who claim solidarity with madiba's struggle for freedom but do not tolerate the scent from their own people. and there are too many of us, too many of us on the sidelines, comfortable in complacency or cynicism. when our voices must be heard.
the questions we face today, how to promote equality and justice, how to uphold freedom and human rights, how to end conflict and sectarian war. these things do not have easy answers. but there are no easy answers in front of that child born in world war i. nelson mandela reminds us that it always seems impossible until it is done. south africa shows that it's true. south africa shows we can change. that we can choose a world defined not by our differences but by our common hopes. we can choose a world defined not by conflict but by peace and justice. and opportunity.
we will never see the likes of nelson mandela again. but let me say to the young people of africa, and the young people around the world, you, too, can make his life's work your own. over 30 years ago, while still a student, i learned of nelson mandela and the struggles taking place in this beautiful land. and it stirred something in me. it woke me up to my responsibilities to others and to myself and it set me on an improbable journey that finds me here today. and while i will always fall short of madiba's example, he makes me want to be a better man.
he speaks to what's best inside us. after this great liberator is laid to rest, and when we've returned to our cities and villages and rejoined our daily routines, let us search for his strength, let us search for his largeness of spirit somewhere inside of ourselves. and when the night grows dark, when injustice weighs heavy on our hearts, when our best laid plans seem beyond our reach, let us think of madiba and the words that brought him comfort within the four walls of his cell. it matters not how straight the gate, how charged the
punishment, the scroll, i am the master of my fate, i am the captain of my soul. what a magnificent soul it was. we mill miss him deeply. may god bless the memory of nelson mandela. my god bless the people of south africa. >> we'd like to thank president barack obama for his comforting words. we now move on -- >> the dignitaries all stood and applauded the u.s. president after he finished.
the crowd has been on its feet after they entered. if there's one word that may have summed up the comments from the president, ebuntu. he used a south africa word that basically means interconnectedness. >> i am me because of you. it's a sense of collectiveness, essentially that we're all in it together. >> it tapped in, the president was very careful. he showed the people here that he knows the story of nelson mandela. he recited lots of the highlights of his biography and then he made it about them. and the message of having to carry forward the legacy. when he said that word, that's going to resonate not just here with the south african people because it's their word but that's a message very much for his constituency back home as well. >> he made some very important points about the massively indispensable contribution of nelson mandela. he said like lincoln, mandela kept this country together in the end, rather than it is
integrating. he also said like so many others, mandela was elected, stepped down, he respected the democratic process. even though he only did one term, he could have had more, making a clear example to many on this content who take power. >> manufacture them are sitting here. >> indeed they are. >> a comment pointed at them, too. you can hold history in your hearts. >> yes. >> encouraging people to not forget the lessons or the sym l symbols or the sense of what mandela taught. >> president obama had earlier said that nelson mandela now belongs to the ages, which is a beautiful sentiment but not his own. edward stanton, secretary of the navy, under abraham lincoln used those words when lincoln was taken from the world. an interesting parallel to christiane's point. >> precisely. i think the president truly believes and was referring
precisely to those words and sentiment, that this is the same kind of historical figure, that mandela is the heir to lincoln. >> john king, if i may bring you in here, your take on the president's remarks, what they mean here and what they mean back home. >> i think it was quite fitting for the president at the end to connect his own story to mandela's story. when big leaders pass, there's a lot of hyperbole, sometimes great exaggeration at the farewells, the memorial services. can you imagine a speech in which the leader offive agreat nation, president obama in this case, links mandela, you see the president there, say something farewells as he wamakes his way off the stage. he compares a man to gandhi, linton and martin luther king in one speech. it's the singular nature of this event. the president clearly as you mentioned knows the biography. he knew it as a student. he knows it as a president and
he was trying to make his own little mark on this service, the soggy service. the president is making his farewell there. to hear a speech where you compare a man to gandhi, lincoln and martin luther king, without hesitation, tells you everything you need to know about nelson mandela. >> we saw him comforting the widow, graca machel. there are those who are outside. issa sesay is outside. what is it like there. >> i guess you can blame the terrible weather conditions for the crowd outside. a steady stream of people are leaving the stadium, marking their way out.
i guess they wanted to come and that they came and witnessed and paid their respects and paid their respects to nelson mandela. to touch on what you were referring to, the african word of ebuttu. that speaks to why people came to sit in these conditions in the fnb. mandela was in his efforts, there is that interconnectedness with the people and nelson mandela. there is a sense of intimacy between the people of south africa and the past president. and then you see that in the fact that so many people who made their way here, chris, were wrapped in fabric with mandela's image on it. they refer to him as tata, the word for father. he is the father of their nation, to many of them, part of their families and their lives. he changed their lives forever
and the course of this country. it's been a remarkable day here as we've seen the people marking their way into the stadium, singing and dancing and uniting as one, praising mandela for all he did for this country. >> isha, keep us informed of anything that happens out there. jim acosta, let's unpack this raul castro moment. president obama as he aetch proed tpro -- as he approached the podium to speak, he shook his hand. it was brief but it mattered. >> in a big unexpected moment. this is not something administration officials were previewing to reporters before president obama arrived here in south africa. i think it might have been an insult to the entire day if he would have just passed the cuban leader. i also think it was interesting
to note during president obama's remarks he talked about people who were imprisoned for their beliefs. he does have a political cover when he comes back home. there are still people in that situation down in cuba. the other thing that struck me about the president's speech, he was talking about it from a historical perspective but he made it personal as well, saying that nelson mandela makes me, president obama, want to be a better man. that was another big takeaway from that speech fwl because of the nature of politicals, people will dissect the hand shake, not so much that it occurred but what it will mean. this is about nelson mandela. it's his memorial. if shaking the hand, whether or not the united states and cuba have good relations or not, cuba had good relations with south africa. they've been helpful to the people here fighting in the '80s and they mattered to nelson mandela. so shaking that hand is respect for nelson mandela as well. fair point? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. and it was an ordinary
diplomatic gesture. there are all these heads of state. you can imagine they've all run into each other at some point in the corridors of the united nations, at other funerals or other things. it's simply a gesture. >> he embraced the brazilian president as well. >> i also got the sense that he was -- barack obama's an old professor and you got the sense that perhaps he was telling people just understand what this man means in history. he was trying to place him in the context of the ages. he still keeps on trying to do that. to remind people who perhaps didn't know mandela or are wondering why we're going to wall-to-wall coverage with one guy, there's a sense of stop, listen, remember, take cnotice f
what's happening here. >> it keeps painting it in the context of centuries. >> no question, this is a world leader that had a profound impact on this president. despite the fact they only met once person to person, it almost seems as every time president obama wants to talk about human rights around the world, he comes back to nelson mandela. >> and he talks also about how the job is not yet done. there's property, injustice. there's political oppression that skill stifts, not just on this continent but around the world. that was very important for him to talk about as well. >> he delivered that message and it had a dough mystic feel to it as well, talking about schools that need to be fixed up and so forth. the inequality that exists in a lot of communities around the globe. >> we're just looking at this picture here, which is quite special. that was when barack obama was a senator from illinois. mandela was in washington giving a speech.
obama managed to get to see him, very unusual. nelson mandela didn't really have time for every freshman senator but obama managed to get to see him. this is obviously a really important moment in obama's life. he keeps that picture close by. and i think it was a matter of some sadness that he didn't manage to meet mandela when he became president, given that he's the first black american president. >> right now, just to make it clear, the president of brazil, is having her remarks translated. we're at the top of the hour, we are, of course, covering the memorial for nelson mandela in south africa. we just heard comments from the u.s. president barack obama. when he used the word ebuntu, a south african term that means i am because you are, that speaks to the interconnectedness nelson mandela was all about, the crowd
went wild. we're discussing here, the impact that a message from a black president to this crowd here had in this stadium but also back home as well. >> absolutely. i think when we talk about the relationship the obamas have had with mandela, it wasn't as personal as the relationship mandela had with the clintons. when i spoke to mrs. obama last year, he couldn't come, so he sent his family ahead. it was quite interesting. i said, what did you say to him, what did you talk about and what did it mean? she expressed a sense that she had nothing to say. she didn't know what to say to mandela, because with this arc of history, with the sense of being with this man, she found herself just being able to say thank you. that was -- you couldn't really make small talk with nelson mandela. this was a man who you actually -- what can you say? she found that. >> he was so ill at that time, too. >> his hearing wasn't good either.
>> he wasn't normally communicating as he might have done before. >> the message outlives the man. that's a big point you're hearing at the memorial today. mandela would want that put first, that it is not about him, it is about the message. the president said, i can't help but think when he was pound the words about what reconciliation means and that just because you don't agree doesn't mean you don't work together and the need for argument and ideas, that that wasn't for a wider audience than just this stadium. your take? >> i think you're exactly right. this is a moment of tribute that is at the same time a moment of reconciliation, which is why you can have a brief hand shake with raul castro and make it about the day, not about international politics. it's why the president of the united states, the first african-american president of the united states can pay tribute to the history of mandela and look beyond it. it's a fascinating moment. i heard the president talk about this and his own children, about the civil rights movement in the united states. those who don't remember, what
do they take away? the memory of the man lives on, the legacy of the man lives on. how does the world, the education system in south africa. how do educators around the world. what will children learn of nelson mandela? look at many of the young faces when you were playing the music beforehand. many of those who are performing weren't alive in the '80s during the struggle. they weren't there when mandela was freed or the free elections in the early '90s. it's a fascinating question for me, when you say farewell and pay tribute to one of the greats of history, today all the tributes will be made, 10 and 20 years from now, what will the young people take from it? >> it's interesting to that point, john, during the president's remarks, he mentioned what is probably nelson mandela's most famous speech, no matter when you were born. during the trial that wound up sending him away on his sentence, he had so many famous lines.
it was notable because it would be the last words he spoke before he disappeared from society for all those years. the crowd went wild when nelson mandela's words echoed here through the words of president obama, to hear the cloud erupt, the strength of that message, that everyone is equal, there's really no preference, makes this man stand apart. >> it really does. it really does. that whole trial was incredible. he went on to say that the idea of no dominance but equal opportunity for all was this idea that he cherished and hoped to live to see. but if necessary, would be prepared to die for. thinking that they were going to be sentenced to death after that trial for sabotage. i do also think that the chinese vice president is speaking right now, this is incredibly important because china is incredibly important in investment and even in politics here in africa. even more so stamping its mark
than america right now. i think what's so important is that many people who still want to criticize mandela and think of him in the years, 30 years ago when he did embrace the arms struggle. they want to label him with the terrorist label. completely and utterly misses the point and doesn't understand the arc of history. mandela came out and told everybody to gather their knives, the guns, throw them into the sea. there was no question he was not embracing any kind of arms struggle at the end. by the way, having had the most appallingly violent arms struggle perpetrated against the majority of this country. he was asked several times by interviewers when he was freed, what about that arms struggle, what about the violence? he said, listen, somebody might call me a terrorist but terrorism is when you inflict harm and death and injury on innocent people, innocent institutions. we never did that. we went after the state that
oppressed us. >> i think what was key about them taking up the arms struggle when he as a young hot-headed leader in the anc in the late '50s, particularly the early '60s, there was a sense that the nonviolence philosophy of the anc wasn't working. >> that's right. >> it was young leaders like him who said we need to change tactic. >> they had started that move by first starting a committee to say the defiance of unjust laws. i want to pick up on that point. let's give people the context. right now we're listening to the chinese vice president. i want to bring back president obama's words, if you missed them. here's a little bit of what he had to say here and what we're discussing in context. >> madiba insisted on sharing with us his doubts and his fears. his miscalculations along with his victories. i am not a saint, he said, unless you think of a saint as a sinner who keeps on trying.
>> so that was just a little bit of what the president gave to the people here today. and certainly it was received well here for many reasons. >> definitely. and as we just went to that little piece of obama's speech, we saw a picture flash by of hillary and chelsea clinton. i think it's important because president clinton tells a story of how when mandela was released from jail in 1990, he was in arkansas. he wasn't president yet. and he went to wake up chelsea as he tells it, and says you must watch this on television, because this is the most important thing that may happen in your lifetime. and he wasn't just telling his daughter. he was telling a whole people that actually this is the example of our lifetime. this freedom fighter, this democrat, this man who forgave and then this man who embraced democracy and was elected but never stayed and overstayed his
welcome, even though people would have wanted him to, he didn't. >> i think that personal sense of fathers and mothers wanting their children to watch and be part of it, whether it was in 1990 when chelsea was woken up in the mid of the night or this past weekend when we were standing outside mandela's house, these very young children, so many mothers and dads pushing their babies in strollers, kids on their dad's shoulders, this very new generation of south africans who have no recollection of apartheid and never will we they were born into mandela's world. the parents need a point, they said i need my child to be physically part of the last bit of mandela's life on this planet. i think it was a very powerful thing. >> simple but almost impossible lesson to follow, that mandela made beautiful for all the world to see. wasn't that he didn't have hate, wasn't that he didn't feel revenge, it's what he did with
those emotions. whether you're an adult or child, it's such a powerful message. how long will he be here? what happens next. >> administration officials were saying on air force one, because of the big security footprint the president brings with him will be the only day he'll be in south africa. he's expected to arrive back to the united states tonight, arrive back in washington tomorrow morning. about 24 hours from now. this was basically it. this was his big moment. he would like to stay for the funeral services at the end of the week. administration officials say we would love to do that sort of thing but they'll be leaving it to other members of the u.s. delegation who will stay behind to do that. there's a huge entourage traveling with this president, not to mention the congressional delegation that's here as well. a lot of people representing the united states here to remember nelson mandela. >> because he is going back, let
me bring john king back in, what's your take on this? we're celebrating nelson mandela because he was unique, because he was singular, his ability to overcome such repression and hatred, his ability to bring both sides together when it was almost unfathomable to do so and turn a country around, what is the reasonable expectation of making this message take root going forward, let's say, for president obama as he returns to the united states? >> well, chris, as you well know and jim well knows and christiane knows, he's returning to a political environment here in the united states that's poisoned. that might be a polite word. can the president carry moment frum a big event like this and make any impact on his disputes with congress over immigration, his disputes with congress over budget matters, his dispute with congress over other issues? i think it would be foolish to suggest you can come out of a moment and talk about this. does the president personally
get momentum and energy out of this? this is something that happens. in a second term, you often see presidents look to the world stage, obviously this is a sad event, but the president, it was important for him to be part of this event we talked about interconnectedness earlier. it is hard to connect the spirit you are experiencing right there. we don't have anything like that in washington right now. this is a horrible political environment in washington. but sometimes presidents personally get a little extra juice, a little extra momentum out of something and sometimes they surprise us. we'll watch when he gets home. >> it would be nice to be surprised as metaphor, the vice president of china, echoing the same message, with all the disputes and troubles between the united states, almost the same message as the u.s. president he followed. both of themconnected, interconnected, but on this day by nelson mandela. the crowd once again begins to
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ask your doctor about nexium. welcome to cnn, viewers from around the world. we are at the nelson mandela memorial, covering it for cnn, of course here in south africa. we've heard from the u.s. president. we'll replay some of that sound for you in just a moment. world leaders have been following one another after
family members have nelson mandela and party officials here all for the man and message he embody. let's bring it to current day. the south africa of today, there are issues here when president jacob zuma was here. he is in power, of course. that's always going to make you a little bit sideways with the people you govern, no matter what country you're in. where is south africa today in terms of realizing the dream of nelson mandela, robyn? >> you have to talk to various different south africans. i think this is a country that is very focused on itself at the moment and that very question. jake on zuma is a very different leader to nelson mandela. and many people are concerned that he doesn't embody the visi visionry, the reconciliation that we saw from nelson mandela.
was he just an aberration? is south africa no longer exceptional, just another, ordinary midlevel country? >> i think most people would say no. >> i think no. i'm asking that as a question. this happened, corruption, poverty happens everywhere in the world. why are we more critical here of it now 20 years after mandela? >> i think in short, the achievements are lasting and incredible. >> yes. >> democracy, that has been established and continues to play out, a free press, a thriving economy, a little slower than it used to be. >> water, houses, electricity, basic life. >> then the endemic problems of corruption, poverty and the income inequality. as a stamp, his stamp is here and has got to be played out. >> certainly the dream had levels of reality, right? the first one to apolish apartheid. it's impossible to compare south africa today to then. the progress is obvious and extreme. >> absolutely.
>> the draem obviously lives on. that's where the united states president barack obama comes in. he was talking about the man and the message carrying it forward, the responsibility of the people in the stadium, the world leaders in this stadium to carry forward that message and of course back home in the united states. here's some of what president obama had to say. >> we must ask how well have i applied his lessons in my own life? it's a question i ask myself. as a man and as a president. we know that like south africa, the united states had to overcome centuries of racial -- the sacrifice of countless people, known and unknown to see the dawn of a new day. michelle and i are beneficiaries of that struggle.
>> obviously drawing parallels between the united states experience, the american experience, and that has been suffered through in south africa. and john king, if i can bring you in, the president himself, barack obama, said the message of the legacy is to carry it forward into tomorrow. and that is much more easily said than done, is it not? >> it is more easily said than done there in south africa. it is more easily said than done. you sea the president recently focused, christiane was talking about endemic income equinequal. the president of the united states just gave a speech on that the other day. how do you capture, bottle the legacy of nelson mandela? rick stngle put it fabulously earlier when he said south africa today is exporting brand mandela. it will be quite fascinating to
watch this president, fin shalling his second term and these other leaders as we watch come up, each of them from very different political situations back home. how do they carry it home? it was fascinating, you made the point, chris, to see china. when mandela was inaugurated president of south africa, china was not as big an international presence as it is today. the world changes. sometimes we view change through individual moments. sometimes we view change through the careers and legacy of the people. and today we're using the mandela moment, the arc of mandela to frame things. it's a fascinating day although the weather is putting a bit of a dampening of the stadium crowd. >> people have been chanting and singing in some form of celebration for hours here. remember, many of them were waiting up until midnight last night to come in. the speaker right now is the
president of namibia. his point so far, a great giant has gone to rest. >> and grate bayobab has fallen, the biggest, oldest trees sometimes in the world, the trunk, the tremendous size of the man and the fact that the roots are now out. i think it's a wonderful analogy, too. >> i do, too. you know, as one who's covered so much conflict around the world, you can help but internalize this notion that without the kind of forgiveness that mandela was able to exhibit, that's not just something, not just something between classroom bullies. it is the quintessential element of conflict resolution, forgiveness is a political tool to get over what seems to be intractable conflict. i honestly can't help but think
right now about israel and the palestinians and any number -- >> israel who doesn't have leadership here today. >> yes, the president is here, the prime minister did not come. >> the prime minister did not come. the president is here. >> yes. >> what does that mean by the way? >> the president is the head of state. he's come. nonetheless, the prime minister ben min net-- benjamin netanyah probably feels to a great extent his country is isolated in the same way that apartheid south africa was isolated. but this is how you get over those intractable conflicts, by understanding the story of the other, by having a political process of resolution that is not just about domination or zero sum game. mandela knew there was no africa for the blacks if it meant africa without the whites. it was not possible. >> christiane amanpour, robyn curn curnow, thank you for being with us. we're going to go to break.
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good morning. welcome to a special edition of "new day," it is tuesday, december 10th. i am in south africa, coming from the fnb stadium in johannesburg. we've heard from the u.s. president and leaders of other major world powers. all echoing the same message, that nelson mandela was a singular man but his message
must live on. we'll keep dipping in back here when there are things of relevance that you need to see and we want to ybring you. >> thank you, chris. a lot of other news going on right now. 27 minutes past the hour. we're watching yet another nasty morning storm here in the northeast. the federal government is shut down this morning in washington. the roads too dangerous for workers to get in, schools are closed this morning throughout the northeast. air travel will be disrupted yet again. hundreds of flights already grounded. it's on heels of that huge storm system that dumped snow, ice and freezing rain on mills over the weekend. our storm coverage begins with cnn's chris launch live. how is it looking there this morning, chris? >> well, kate, just about 20 minutes ago we were getting freezing rain and now it's starting to turn over into a very wet snow. here in d.c., the government's
closed. all the schools, a lot of businesses as well. not because of what's already accumulated, obviously, but because of what's on the way. the skidding, the pileups, the bitter freezing cold and it's not over yet. monday's commutes were nasty. the snow and ice, snarling traffic on the ground and the air. drivers resorted to pushing their cars over slippery overpasses and bridges. >> the roads are in terrible shape, slippery and slidey. >> reporter: school closings were in seaside heights. >> i'm panicking. it's coming into the condo. >> reporter: power lines covered in ice left thousands without power, putting utility crews out in full force, trying to restore service before the upcoming storm.
more than 1,700 flights were canceled on monday, further aggravating travelers, some stuck in airports for days. road crews working overtime at this hour to keep streets safe for commuters in hopes of preventing more deadly accidents, like this massive pileup in yonkers, new york. 40 people were hurt when slick roads caused 20 cars to collide late sunday night. and near milwaukee, wisconsin, a traffic camera captured this horrifying 30-car pileup as it happened. with car after car crashing into each other, shutting down the highway. >> i'd see them go southbound and i'd see their taillights disappear into the snow. i'd see the brake lines go off to the side or spin. you knew it was just happening and i was praying to god nobody was going to die. >> same highway, another pileup, just a few miles away.
one person died when dozens of vehicles rear-ended each other. >> you hate to see something like that. this storm is going to affect up to 50 million americans, folks working at the white house, snow already starting to fall there. and, again, as i said, it's already turning into a very wet snow, making the roads very, very slick. possibly the worst time in the morning. >> absolutely right. rush hour in washington is bad enough. and it looks like it will be a bad one today, though the federal government is closed. thank you so much for that. let's get to jennifer grey tracking where this storm is headed and the east coast. jennifer, of course, cold temperatures in the wintertime not unusual. but how widespread this is is rare. >> yes. we have 60 to 70% of the country covered in snow right now on the ground. that's very unusual this early in the season. we do have the snow pushing into portions of washington, d.c. you just saw that live shot, the white house looking gorgeous this morning. could see 2 to 3 inches of snow
and this is going to make its way up into the northeast. here is d.c., pushing into areas like baltimore and pushing into philly right now. we'll be in new york city in the next couple of hours, just on the fringes right there. what we're looking at, isolated amounts, 3 to 5 inches could see about 1 to 2 inches within the city itself. and then the surrounding areas could see higher amounts, so this is going to push on out later this evening. the good news is, it is going to push on quickly. we'll get a little bit of a breather after this passes, later on this afternoon. and then the next system possibly moving in a little bit later towards the weekend. but michaela, how is this for a stat? philadelphia on sunday received more snow in that one day than they received all year last y r year. >> in one day. no amounts of snow blowers or shovels could help with that. all right, jennifer, we'll be keeping an eye on that with you. three miami police officers reportedly have been shot in
northwest miami in a series of shootings, all of them have been sent to trauma centers. their injuries are not life-threatening we're told. it is unclear what exactly led to the shootings. local media is reporting a suspect involved in the shootings was also transported. we'll continue to keep an eye on this story. secretary of state john kerry heading to capitol hill today. he's expected to clash with congress over the fragile iran nuclear agreement. they are preparing a possible vote on new sanctions against tehran. the white house has warned any sanctions will jeopardize the historic deal freezing iran's nuclear program. federal investigators continuing to rule out mechanical problems the cause of a deadly train derailment in new york. they're revealing one more clue, suggesting that human error might have been to blame. about ten minutes before the derailment, he failed to dim the train's headlights when they pass another train.
it is a question of intent in the murder trial of a woman accused of pushing her husband off to his death. they say his fatal fall was an accident. prosecutors say graham did it on purpose and tried to cover it up because she was unhappy in her new marriage. the nobel peace prize is being presented today in norway. weapons inspectors overseeing the removal of chemical arms from syria are receiving the award. the nobel committee chairman has said the award was decided even before the group was tasked with its work in syria. the organization for their prohibition of chemical weapons receives $1.2 million among other prizes. those are your headlines. kate? >> a lot of news going on here and around the world this morning. let's get straight back to chris with the big story of the morning at the soccer stadium in johannesburg, watching this memorial play out. good morning, chris. >> i have to tell you, kate, this has really something to
behold here. people started lining up last night to get into the fnb. this used to be soccer city for the world cup, this stadium. the rain has been heavy on and off, the weather has been cold. the people came and they have been up on their feet for so much of the morning, singing and chanting songs of celebration of a man, nelson mandela, who was so much more than a man. we had u.s. president barack obama who gave a very moving tribute here, that sent echos not just to other world leaders and to south africans but to those back home in the united states. there have been other world leaders here, there have been big moments but there was a lot before the president here. this was about the south african people, the family of nelson mandela, and there's been a lot of emotion and things you need to see if you didn't go a chance. we go to errol barnett. here are the highlights in case you missed them. >> reporter: hours before the
ceremony began, there was singing. ♪ dancing. and celebration. the wet weather not dampening spirits. >> we were not able to stop the rain. when it rains when you're buried, it means that your gods are welcoming you. >> reporter: tens of thousands of mourners listened to the mass choir sing the south african national anthem. ♪ this followed by prayer. leaders and public figures from 91 different nations, include president obama and first lady michelle obama, waved to a roaring crowd. u.n. secretary general ban ki-moon also paying tribute. >> nelson mandela was more than one of the greatest leaders of our time.
he was one of our greatest teachers. >> reporter: and mandela's grandchildren who ignited the cheers of the entire stadium. >> you tower over the world like a comet, leaving streaks of light for us to follow. >> reporter: those overwhelming cheers, forcing a good-natured plea for order. >> can we appeal for those behind the stage to please tone down their singing. >> reporter: and then an unprecedented sight, president obama shaking hands with cuban president raul castro. >> and that handshake obviously was a huge moment but not to be misunderstood. the handshake with raul castro, the president of cuba, we believe was president obama showing respect to nelson mandela and the occasion of today and the spirit of reconciliation. of course, it will be dissected politically but remember, right after president obama spoke, not long after, you had the vice president of china and you had the president of india and you
had the president of brazil. we have raul castro, the president of cuba upcoming soon. no matter the ongoing political disputes, on this day it was about something bigger, about forgiveness and reconciliation. it was about a man who was bigger, nelson mandela, that is what the tribute has been all about today. we'll certainly continue for hours and days and weeks to come as this country, south africa, reconciles itself with the loss of such a huge figure. a lot of other news for you this morning. let's get you back to kate bolduan in new york. kate? >> keeping up context is very important on this day as you well say, chris. we'll take a break. we'll be right back with "new day." coming up, new details this morning about what happened when an honor student was shot and killed by campus police. but for fellow students, the officer's story, for them, isn't adding up. it's a snow ball fight on a college campus that got out of hand. it went viral. now a football star involved is suspended. how that will affect an
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welcome back to "new day." we're learning more about what really is being described as a bizarre incident that left a student dead at a texas christian college. campus police now say the 23-year-old hit a police officer with his baton, forcing the officer to fire at him. but his friends, the students' friends, say the honor student would not do that. cnn's george howell has more. >> reporter: on the campus of the university of incarnate word, friends remember him as an honor student, as peaceful and well liked.
>> i've known cameron for two years. he really is one of the nicest, most caring, compassate guys ever, not a mean bone in his whole body. >> police say they saw a very different cameron ridas, who one allegedly attacked a police officer who they say fired his weapon in self-defense, killing ridas. investigators describe a violent six-minute confrontation. they say he's pulled off by corporal cris carter for driving erratically. >> he instructed him 14 times to place his hands behind his back and informed him three times that he was under arrest and stop resisting 56 times. >> richard pruett, of the alamo heights police department, says the officer's patrol car captured the audio of what happened through a rearview camera but did not capture the actual confrontation.
they say, the change in temperature prevented the glue from setting and it had fallen off the evening before the incident. carter says ridas continued resisting arrest and the confrontation escalated. he says he told the student four times to stop or he would open fire. >> officer carter deployed a collapsable baton to protect himself from further attack but the baton was taken away from him by robert ridas to struck him on several times on the arm and head. >> reporter: officer carter was able to knock the baton from the suspect's hand. >> officer carter stated that robert ridas then charged at him with his arm raised as if to strike him and that's when he fired his weapon six times, striking robert ridas five times. >> reporter: he was pronounced dead at the scene when medics arrived, the victim's friends question the police account. >> if there was no dash cam, how
do we ever know what really happened that night? how do we fully know if what was said is true? >> reporter: george howell, cnn, chicago. >> george, thank you so much for that. for more on this let's bring in retired new york police detective steve cardian. >> pleasure. >> this should not have escalated to an altercation at all. a lot of details we don't know because there is no dash cam video. what is your take on how this transpired. >> it is a tragedy anytime we see someone so young die as a result of a motor vehicle stop. the chief just said he told this individual so many times to turn around and put his hands behind his back. six minutes, that's a lifetime it a police officer that's engaged in combat. >> what does that tell you? that. >> tells me this was a violent encounter. we saw a similar case to this back last year in the university of south alabama in which a
student was under the influence of a drug and you know, they exhibit superhuman strength. >> toxicology reports not back in this incident. >> right. >> we don't know that really. >> we don't. >> how do you square the fact that you have students that know him, you have this description of him, that he was a gentle boy, and then you also have a police officer who has years of experience, how did it escalate to this level? do you think this could have, should have, ended without a gun being fired? >> we never like to see deadly physical force being employed, especially in this institution, on a college campus. however, when the officer runs out of options, when he's being struck with his own baton, he has to resort to deadly physical force if he believes he's about to be killed. >> how -- does it play into this at all that we're talking about a campus police officer versus an officer with the local police department? does that play into this? >> the mission of the campus police is a little bit different. they're not exposed to as much
as a police officer from a stay or municipality would be exposed to. but that being said, they receive the same training. he had eight years with the police department. and there's a lot yet that has to come out. they're going to go through his history with a fine tooth comb. they'll go through this incident in very specific detail. >> there are reports of multiple gunshots to this young man. does that seem excessive. >> we have the hollywood effect, we don't see one shot stops an individual. often it's many bullets that are fired before the actions of any individual, especially a violent person, are stopped. >> how big of a problem do the investigation is it that there is no dash cam video, that there is a story that's unfortunate, that there should be dash cam footage but because of a temperature change it had fallen off. >> we'd know much clearer what occurred but we do have audio. as long as that audio supports what the officer said occurred to him, that should be solid evidence. >> what should people expect
going forward? the officer has been put on administrative leave, which is standard in situations like this. >> the police department and the district attorney will at some point become involved. they're going to go from the moment he came on duty and look at until the termination of this incident. how long were they engaged in battle, they'll look for surveillance video. >> do you have a gut sense of how this will turn out? >> it's a little bit earl yi but right now based upon the information, should it hold true, that this individual was attempting to strike him or strikiing him with the baton, he'd be justified with the information we have this time. >> steve kardan, great to see you. come up on "new day," a race against time to find two adults and four little children who went missing in the mountains. snow and freezing temperatures are making it really tough for the rescue team. we'll have the latest on the frantic search.
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welcome back to "new day." you saw the graphic. extreme weather continues to slam the east coast this morning. let's check in with jennifer gray to see where it is going and where it is right now. jennifer? >> it is not letting up. snow pulling into d.c., baltimore right now. just started in philly in the last couple of minutes and new york, you are next. it is starting to pull into the outlying areas for you. we could see anywhere from 2 to 3" inside the city. outside the city, snowfall amounts could equal anywhere from 3 to 5". good news about this system,
it's going to pull on out pretty quickly. we'll track this low for you today around 11:00, still seeing the snow. some areas seeing freezing rain to the south. this will pull on out by this afternoon, leaving us with better weather and a little bit of a breather as we go through the next couple of days. the other big story will be the lake-effect snow up in the north. could see 2 to 4" throughout the day in some areas. upstate new york, kate, could see up to a foot of snow later today. >> all right. thanks so much, jennifer. those freezing temperatures that have gripped the nation are making the search for a missing family incredibly difficult this morning. two adults and their four children have been missing in the nevada mountains since sunday night. now, snow and subzero temperatures have increased concern for the family's safety. pamela brown joins us now. they went out to have a little bit of fun in the snow. >> they did, sunday at noon to play in the snow, according to their family. they were reported missing,
michaela, 8:00 pm sunday night. a boyfriend and girlfriend, christina mckenzie, 25. they took their two children, ages 3 and 4, and a niece and nephew out. they haven't had any communication with their family since they went out sunday. this is really a race against the clock. search and rescue team out, conducting an aerial search. it's becoming a dire situation because of the frigid temperatures. at one point it got to 16 below zero and we're expecting the clouds to move in which, of course, could hamper the search and rescue efforts. so what authorities are hoping for is that they're going to be able to see the top of their jeep. silver jeep with a blacktop. the hope is, of course, that they would be able to spot that. other than that, they don't have anything to work with. >> aerial support is so important. they'll try to pick up any
signal pinging off towers to try to locate them. they were probably dressed for the weather because this were going out to play in the snow. do we have a sense that they have any supplies, emergency gear or were used to this terrain? >> authorities are simply saying they don't know what kind of supplies they had with them they don't know how prepared they were. >> they might have gone out for an afternoon in the snow. >> these were conditions that probably weren't conducive to going out and playing in the snow. it's just concerning they're in a situation that it is dire. they're hoping they stayed in their jeep, of course. that is the best case scenario. at this point, it's just uncertain exactly where they are. they narrowed it to down to a remote area 100 miles northeast of reno. >> give us an update when you have one. we appreciate that, pamela brown. desperate search continues for that missing family. thank you so much. >> thank you. is the nsa going undercover
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s of world leaders ever over shadowed by the joy and sadnessative nation. president obama paying tribute. we're covering it all. >> closed for business. the federal government shut down this morning. a massive snow maker pounding the northeast. millions bracing for a brutal commute. we're tracking it all. spy games, literally. the nsa is now infiltrating video games. are terrorists using games to plan and carry out attacks? your new day continues, right no now. >> you hear, that is -- >> it's tuesday, december 5th, 8:00 in the east. there's chris cuomo right there. >> chris, i'm sorry.
apologize for that. right now i'm speaking over the president of south africa, jacob zuma, the most recent of many great speakers this morning. this has been a phenomenal moment, this memorial to nelson mandela. there's been rain, but it has not dampened the spirits of the people here at all. so many have come out to hear the message, the dignitaries, president obama. so many people in positions of leadership in this stadium who ordinarily wouldn't want to be in a zip code of each other, let alone side by side but for nelson mandela, they were here. the party, intimates, the family of nelson mandela. so much here, so much to talk about. let's recap for you with a piece
from erol. >> reporter: in front of a packed stadium, president obama delivered his very personal thoughts on the legacy of nelson mandela. >> and while i will always fall short of madiba's example, he makes me want to be a better man. he speaks to what's best inside us. nelson mandela reminds us that it always seems impossible until it is done. south africa shows that is true. south africa shows that we can change, that we can choose a world defined not by our differences, but by our common hopes. it matters not how straight the gate, how charged the punishment of the scroll, i am the master of my fate. i am the captain of my soul. what a magnificent soul it was.
>> those words spoken minutes after an unprecedented sight, obama sharing the stage and shaking hands with cuban president raul castro, an image most people never thought they would see happen and won't soon be forgotten. the festivities started hours before the ceremony even began. there was singing, dancing and celebration. the wet weather not dampening spirits. >> we were not able to stop the rain. when it rains when you are buried, it means that you are being welcomed. >> reporter: this, followed by prayer. public figures from 19 different
nations, including president obama, first lady michelle obama waved to a roaring crowd. and mandela's grandchildren, who ignited the cheers of the entire stadium. >> tower over the world, leaving streets of light for us to follow. >> in fact, those overwhelming cheer cheers. >> can we appeal those behind the stage to please tone down their singing? >> and it has been such a memorial morning for us here, this memorial, joined by christiane amanpour. the first is the handshake. we know this is going to be a topic of discussion. i believe it should be dismissed as respect for the occasion, respect for nelson mandela, not a statement about political play between cuba and the united states, but what do you think?
>> i think that is what it is. we've been able to see the president come up these stairs and go past basically a diplomatic line. you have the president of cuba and you also have him embracing the president of brazil, on whom he is not on very good terms right now because of the nsa scandal, because she is very upset about being spied on, et cetera. so, this is a diplomatic occasion with all these people but not to do politics, but to admire and pay tribute to the great concilliator. >> and sometimes humanity must rule. you treat their friends with respect even if they are not your own and to the extent that politics at play, the president shook his hand but also gave raul castro and other leaders a little slap during his comments saying there are those here who say they follow madiba, nelson mandela's words, but don't allow their own people to speak thei
descent. >> that's right. president obama thanked the people of south africa for sharing nelson mandela with the world. and speaking now, he also paid tribute to the people of south africa and the family of mandela, who had to share this great man with the rest of the world. this has been full, this stadium. behind zuma right now, you can see the orange seats. basically a lot of the stadium is emptying right now. it's the end of the ceremonies and the rain and the security concerns played some part in a slightly thinner crowd than what was expected. >> behind president obama, however, it was full. >> it was. >> and people were dancing. there was a lot of revelry going on. >> there was. >> is it too much? are we overstating that when somebody passes you want to lionize them, make them even greater than they were? do you believe you can do that with nelson mandela? >> here is the thing. there will be people who say it's too much, both in south
africa and around the world, in the united states, et cetera. the what we're reflecting is what south africa is doing, which is saying good-bye in a very prolonged and dignified way. they want to record in full honor, so to speak. television does this for many, many, many figures, people of less much stature than nelson mandela. people may have their opinions, but everybody has said this is really the example of the ages. when people in the united states look at some of the conflicts that are still out there, not least between the israelis and palestinians that his example is really the one that can bring reconciliation. it's about forgiveness. it's in the about a zero sum game or domination. that is not just a personal thing, it's a political ingredient for conflict resolution. >> i think if there were to be closure here today, not just for the family of nelson mandela and all of those who loved him in south africa, even if you wanted to mitigate the importance of
the man, the message -- there was a word that president obama used today, i am me because of you. interconnectedness, interdependence. that message is needed now in south africa and in the united states and around the world as much as ever, if not more so. if for only that reason, kate, back in new york and i got to learn from christiane all morning. it was great for me to be here and witness this. that message should resonate not just in this stadium but back home as well. the president brings it with him as he returns to the united states there. you surely know as well as anyone that he has plenty of reconciliation to do right back in the united states. >> as you've both been talking about all morning, let's hope that message resonates and returns to the united states with the president when he returns back here. it's been a great conversation. back here in the states, another
big story that is unfolding right now in the northeast that we're tracking for you, extreme weather. after several grueling days, battling ice, sleet, wind and snow, another storm is now battering the region. it's already causing pile-ups on roadways and big delays on the runways. it's so bad in the nation's capital that it forced the federal government to shut down for the day. we're tracking the storm minute to minute to bring all the information that you need right now. let's begin with chris lawrence in washington. good morning, chris. >> reporter: hey, good morning, kate. we're getting a steady stream now of thick, wet snow on the national mall. just up the road a ways at the white house as well. this storm is going to affect the northeast as we head into really the first round of wintry weather. the skidding, the pile-ups, the bitter freezing cold. and it's not over yet.
monday's commutes were nasty. the snow and ice snarling traffic on the ground and the air. drivers resorted to pushing their cars over slippery overpasses and bridges. >> the roads are in terrible shape, slippery, slid sliding a very slow. >> reporter: major flooding problems in seaside heights, causing school closings and delays. >> i'm panicking. it's coming in under the condo and i'm on the bottom floor. that's the last thing i need, is to have my duct work and everything else shorting out. >> reporter: power lines covered in ice, putting utility crews out in full force, trying to restore service before the upcoming storm. more than 1,700 flights were canceled monday, further aggravating travelers, some stuck in airports for days. road crews working overtime at this hour to keep the streets safe for commuters. hopes of preventing more deadly accidents, like this massive
pile-up in yonkers, new york. 40 people were hurt when slick roads caused 20 cars to collide late sunday night. and near milwaukee, wisconsin, a traffic camera captured this horrifying 30-car pile-up as it happened with car after car crashing into each other, shutting down the highway. >> i would see them go southbound and see their taillights disappear in the snow and all of a sudden i would see the brake lights come on or jump off to the side and spin. you knew it was happening. i was just praying to god nobody was going to die. >> same highway, miles away, one person died when several vehicles rear ended each other. >> you always hate to see that. here in washington right now, the snow is still steadily coming down. not really sticking so much on the roads just yet. it's always tricky when you shut everything down in anticipation of the storm rather than dealing
with what's already on the ground. i mean, if you're at home right now, hustling your kids off to school you can certainly emphasize with parents at home who all of a sudden get an unexpected snow day and have to come up with backup child care options at the last minute. kate? >> absolutely right, chris. as your talking about parents, parents are wondering, chris, where is your hat? you're out in the snow. >> reporter: i know. i sort of dressed for what it was at about 6:00 in the morning when we got out here, which was clear and no problem. not really dressing for what it was going to be now. i'm kind of caught out there, so to speak. >> you sure r we'll check back in with you in a little bit. let's give chris what he needs to watch out for, coming up, as the storm starts moving through. let's check in with meteorologist jennifer gray. good morning, jennifer. >> good morning to you. poor thing for chris out there right now. he is out in the thick of it. this system is not going to last
very long but will give one last push of winter weather before this pesky system gets out of the way, which is good news for a lot of you. up toward philadelphia, you are already seeing snow as well as new york, getting some light snow in the city right now. we could see anywhere from one to two inches of snow in the city. surrounding areas could see as high as three to five inches. we are going to see problems on the bridges and overpasses through the next 12 to 24 hours. this system is not going to last very long. it is going to get out of here by this afternoon. the other big story, of course, lake-effect snow across areas around the great lakes. i want to show you this. this is december 9th, 2012. this is the snow cover over the u.s. and this is yesterday. so, we have 60% to 70% of the nation covered in snow right now. what a difference a year makes, kate. >> absolutely right, jennifer. you'll be busy today. we'll check back in with you. thank you so much. on capitol hill, secretary
of state john kerry is expected to be heading there today, expecting to clash with congress on the interim iran agreement. lawmaker nous preparing a possible vote on new sanctions against iran. this is a very big deal for that fragile agreement. jim schuto is in washington with the very latest. good morning, jim. >> reporter: hey there, kate. this puts congress on a collision course with the white house, the administration. the white house has been lobbying hard against the sanctions. secretary of state kerry appealed over the thanksgiving holiday. that apparently has fallen on deaf ears. key democratic and republican senators agreeing on a bill to impose new sanctions on iran. it would impose these penalties unless iran does three things. it would have to move its enriched uranium out of the country under international
supervision and dismantle its heavy pollulutonium reactor. the administration is calling for none of these steps, and the key thing there, president obama once again said he could live with what he called a modest enrichment program there. this is something that his lawmakers even within his enparty on capitol hill saying they cannot live with. senate aides telling me it's their view these new sanctions would only strengthen the administration's hand in these nuclear talks. that's frankly not the white house position, kate. >> not the way the iranian minister sees it. he sees it as killing the deal and they're still in this fragile six-month period. jim sciutto, thank you. >> thank you zblsk. three miami police officers have been shot overnight in northwest miami in a series of
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welcome back to "new day." these documents suggest that nsa and british intelligence have been spying on gamers across the world. spies have spent time undercover in games like "world of warcraft." more on this very unusual case. good morning, brian. >> reporter: they can track us online, pinpoint us through our cell phones and now nsa can track us through the video games that kids and young adults are playing. nirp anyone playing the game world of warcraft as druids, death knights, could also have another description. according to the nsa and its british counterpart have been infiltrating world of war craft. second life and the x-box live
console. they've gathered metadata but also used human spies to go undercover and create their own avatars, make-believe characters so they could interact with possible terrorists playing games. documents were obtained by "the guardian" newspaper by leaker edward snowden. why would they do this? >> in the gaming world you can communicate openly between two characters. this is not something that goes over the line. it is in a smaller group. you can also gift money in the form of gold or characters or online currency. >> reporter: conceivably, terrorists could plan real attacks through these fantasy games. fake identities, voice and chat capability, the ability to speak to others in real time are all features of game play that terrorists find attractive. >> reporter: but the nsa spying program raises privacy concerns.
>> if it turns out that, in fact, the government is routinely storing all of that activity, analyzing it, linking it up to actual individuals with known identities, then i think people would be concerned. >> it is the knife blood of this world. >> reporter: according to the the guardian and "the times" with all those elves, trolls and gno gnomes being surveilled, there's no report of any terrorists being caught. it did say its foreign intelligence mission is centered on valid foreign terrorist targets. spokesman for the british counterpart said that agency's activities are necessary and legal. x-box maker microsoft and the maker of world of warcraft say they aren't aware of any surveillance and wouldn't have
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we are here at the nelson mandela memorial in south africa. you're watching bishop ivan abrahams, giving the sermon, very near the end of the memorial. he is being treated as if he was a saint. people here would say for good reason. he himself would say he is no saint unless you define a saint as a sinner who keeps on trying. united by the common respect for nelson mandela, regardless of their own political differences, somewhat in that spirit of what forgiveness and reconciliation is all about, has lived through the struggle of nelson mandela. of course, for you in the united states, president obama was the highlight of the day.
messages for the people here in south africa also back home in the u.s. take a listen. his struggle was your struggle. his triumph was your triumph. your dignity and your hope found expression in his life and your freedom, your democracy is his cherished legacy. it is hard to eulogize any man, to capture in words not just the facts and the dates that make a life, but the essential truth of a person, their private joys and sorrows, the quiet moments and unique qualities that illuminate someone's soul
are much harder to do so for a giant of history who moved a nation toward justice and in the process moved billions around the world. born during world war i, far from the corridors of power, a boy raised herding cattle and tutored by the elders of his tribe, madiba would emerge as the last great liberator of the 20th century. like gandhi, he would lead a movement that had little prospect for success. like dr. king, he would give potent voice to the claims of the oppressed and moral necessity of racial justice. >> he would reference gandhi. he would reference abraham lincoln, the president, when
discussing mandela. he showed the audience here, as i'm joined but robin kerr now, international correspondent for cnn. he knew the life of nelson mandela and the high points but more importantly he knew the message. >> it's a very african word in the sense that i am me because of you. it really speaks to the connective nature of our world and how you really can't be nelson mandela unless you have all the people, these people to support you along the way. that sense of connectedness, that sense of purpose and society that mandela was so keen on was reiterated again and again today. >> i can't get away from so many moments here today. it's been such a privilege to witness this memorial and see the coming together of these south african people and these world leaders who ordinarily
wouldn't have the time of day for each other on many levels, given who was here. the message that people need to take from this, regardless of their feelings of nelson mandela, is when has the world needed to hear it more than everybody matters to everybody else, no matter what the grievance is at this time? i don't remember in my lifetime needing to hear it more. >> exactly. you look at divisions in washington, the divisions in the middle east. and i think there's a real sense that leadership is so important. and you need -- that's why i think obama keeps on coming back to this issue that you need a leader who is a visionary, who is a people's person, and who is pragmatic and who also takes the time -- and i think this is the key. mandela understood that how tough it was. he was in prison for 27 years. there was a real, real sacrifice he made. but he held -- he didn't forgive -- i mean, he didn't forget but he forgave. he said i'm going to forgive the
enemy. for the better good of this country, we need to move on. >> which may make the revolution, the change more impressive than anything else, to keep the oppressive party intact, to a small extent. but to do that is unheard of in terms of transition. nelson mandela was able to do that. take the reporter hat off for a second and put on the south african hat, robyn from south africa. is this what we need to see since he pass add way on thursday? >> they have a very personal connection to him. everybody called him father, kulu, grandfather. these are the ways south africans feel about him. the grieving has been like there's been a death in the family, there's been a sense of how are we going to go on without him? but a realization that he was old and this was inevitable. and then things like today.
you see this impromptu singing and dancing. that in itself is more symbolic of what mandela was than any of these speeches. >> great spirit regardless of what he had been through, showing that endurance, that perseverance. just to think, everybody, india, china, brazil, cuba and the united states all sharing the same stage, essentially giving the same message about the same man, regardless of the external politics. what a day that would make it on that level alone. >> and every man to everybody. what a gift that is. >> beautifully said. robyn curnow, it's been great to be with you. >> thanks a lot. >> michaela, i know there's a lot of other news but this has been a great privilege to be here today. and that one word, to hear it resonate and what it means to the rest of the world that alone is a great memorial to a man who was all about being free with everybody else. >> absolutely. chris and robyn, fantastic of
you both to give us the sights and sounds to make us feel like we are all there. and also christiane. we appreciate that. five things you need to know. bone-chilling winter storm is forcing federal offices to shut down. more sleet, snow and freezing rain is on the way in washington and in philadelphia, and new york. secretary of state john kerry making a case on capitol hill for no new sanctions against iran. iranian officials saying any new sanctions would kill the agreement to freeze iran's nuclear program. federal investigators continuing to rule out mechanical problems as a cause of that deadly train derailment in new york. the engineer failed to dim his lights when passing another train. 90,000 pounds of meat and poultry products being recalled because they were produced under unsanitary conditions. items produced from august 1st to december 5th from yauk's
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let's get to jennifer gray. while it is pretty, it is causing a lot of travel issues and getting around on the roads is real dangerous. >> you bet. the only good news with this system, michaela, this one is going to get on out of here pretty quickly. an inch or two of snow within the city. of course, surrounding areas could pick up more, three to five inches. but it's already pushing in, in washington. you've seen the bulk of it already. you're actually on the back side. getting close to ending for you. philly, new york, still pushing into your area. this will be pushing out by a little later this afternoon, areas to the south, of course, seeing rain. this low will continue to track up the east coast and pushing offshore or up to the northeast as we go through the afternoon hours. of course, this is 5:00 tonight. you can see, pretty clear across
most of the northeast. so that's good news. but we are still going to see accumulation amounts anywhere from one to two, three inside the city, higher amounts elsewhere. guys? >> thanks so much, jennifer. let's move now to the murder trial of a woman accused of pushing her new husband off a montana cliff this summer. no one questions that jordan lynn graham pushed cody johnson. what's in doubt is what she was intending to do when this happened. joining us in just a moment. first, kyung lah has the latest. >> waved to the cameras outside court, her murder trial under way of pushing her husband just eight days in the back face first off the cliff of glacier national park. prosecutors say despite appearing in love in her wedding video, graham was distraught. her matron of honor back on the
stand testifying that just a few days after the wedding, graham sent numerous text messages expressing regret about her marriage to cody johnson. she texted to her friend, i should be happy and i'm just not. i never cried this much in my entire life and even, i don't want to live. >> what was it like to be in that courtroom and see swrornd? >> obviously, it was very nerve-racking. >> another friend was visibly shaken after testifying that graham had lied to her. torn testified one day after johnson plunged to his death she got this text from graham. some park buddies from seattle came to the house yesterday and he went with them. i wasn't there. the last thing he said to me was that he was going for a drive with some friends that were visiting. it was a bold-faced lie to cover up that her husband was lying dead at the bottom of a cliff. it would be days before graham eventually confessed the truth to police. while the prosecutor would not
speak on camera, in court he said graham planned then lied about the murder, driven by her desire to get out of her marriage. defense attorneys say graham did, indeed, have regrets but called her a naive, socially inept young woman. the fall just a terrible accident. she says they were fighting. he grabbed her. she pushed him away and he fell to his death. why the lies? a young bride afraid that the world wouldn't believe her. kyung lah, missoula, montana. >> let's continue the conversation with sunny hostin. they moved on to opening arguments, wrapped up opening arguments, if you will. was this murder or an accident? was this self-defense? what is the prosecution's strategy here? as we discussed yesterday, two people know what happened.
one of them is dead and one of them is on trial. >> we heard the prosecution's strategy yesterday in opening statements. and what they're saying is, listen, no one behaves this way. look at her behavior before. we know she was upset. she didn't want to be married. she was second guessing her marriage. we know after she pushed him, both hands to his back over a cliff, she lied about it over and over and over again. no one innocent behaves that way. >> doesn't the defense have a lot to overcome here, joey? >> they do, kate. they really do. however -- >> i can't believe you just admitted that. i was waiting to hear -- >> they do. however, the bottom line is that it's very circumstantial. you don't have n eyewitness. two people who were at the top of that cliff. one of them is now the decedent. the other is telling the story as to the accident. the prosecution is amping up, as sunny and i were speaking about this, the whole issue of state of mind, state of their marriage. from a defense perspective, you could show, it's a rocky relationship. does that equate with murder?
is it not plausible in the event that you're having a dispute that you might, for example, move a hand off, push and oh, my goodness and then thereafter to address sunny's lies that she was talking about, what you would say is i'm panicked. if i tell the story, no one would believe me and that would account for the lies. the defense will attempt to exploit. whether that will be successful -- >> i think it will be very difficult for a jury listening to this case to believe this story. i think she's going to have to take the witness stand. she has to take the witness stand. will the jury find her to be credible? i can't imagine, joey jackson, that is possible. >> is that right? >> this is in federal court. this is my territory. >> national park. >> federal territory, in my turf, federal court. very highly skilled prosecutors. >> that's a big deal. >> excellent point. >> and the fbi. >> is that why the defense is playing up the fact that she's
young, naive, socially inept? >> absolutely. that's very important. sunny and i address this issue off air. that is the conduct that was engaged in after the fact in terms of leaving, not reporting it, making up stories. that's going to be problematic. the fact that you mentioned, as they exploit she's young, naive. this is someone who would do something like this -- not kill but who would not report and panic and make up stories and make up lies. not because she was a murderer, but because it was a horrific accident she thought she would not be believed. >> first witness that the prosecution brought up testified that she was unhappy in her marriage. then you have these text messages leading up to their wedding. and on their wedding day, from her, if you don't hear from me the all again tonight, something happened. >> yeah. >> it makes why this case is so fascinating. >> people are fascinated with it. >> how is this going to play into what happens in the courtroom? >> one of two ways. either it goes toward premeditation. i'm thinking about doing
something to him or maybe i'm an abused woman. so if i approach my husband, my new husband about the fact that i maybe should not have married him, he may do something to me. i think it sounds -- i don't believe that. i don't know that a jury will believe that. >> from the defense it explains the argument. i'm going to confront him about the fact that maybe this was a mistake, maybe i should not have married him. that explains why they could have been arguing and why the push/pull story is plausible. >> with two hands? >> the jury has to determine that. it's a big problem. >> big point here, different from murder trials we've watched in recent memory that have made it on tv, this is going to move very fast, it seems like. they blew through jury selection, opening arguments. >> welcome to federal court. >> that's right. they have to move on, as well as we do. joey jackson, sunny hostin, thank you. how far is too far with the
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we're here live at the nelson mandela memorial. it was raining earlier and they said it was raining because heaven was welcoming nelson mandela. it has stopped raining here as we are beginning to wrap up. u.s. president barack obama was here. the crowd went wild with his message of understanding about nelson mandela as a man and what his purpose was here, what he's supposed to be remembered for. i want to play you that sound now because it was really impactful and resonate about what today was all about. take a listen. mandela understood the ties that bind the human spirit. there is a word in south africa,
ubuntu. its recognition that we are all bound together in ways that are invisible to the eye, that there is a oneness to humanity, that we achieve ourselves by sharing ourselves with others, and caring for those around us. >> reporter: ubuntu, the idea of interconnectedness. nelson mandela lived it. it's what turned south africa around and it extends all the way back to the united states. kate, michaela, that's what i took away from today, a great figure to report on and witness, but that message, that word ubuntu is what we really needed to hear today. >> we all live with ubuntu going forward. >> great to witness tens of thousands of people in that stadium. for more on our continued coverage of this historic gathering, we'll hand it off to carol costello in the "cnn newsroom." good morning, carol. >> thank you, kate. have a great day.
"newsroom" starts now. and good morning, everyone. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. today, the world is gathering in south africa to pay tribute to a global icon. thousands of mourners braving heavy rains to attend the official memorial service for nelson mandela. 100 current heads of state and former leaders, including jimmy carter, bill clinton and george w. bush. just behind them, archbishop desmond tutu. president and mrs. obama, drawing cheers from the crowds. these words from president obama, to honor a man he called a personal hero. >> we know like south africa the united states had to overcome centuries of racial subrogation. as was true here, it took