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cambridge were most touched by the thoughtful gift and send you their warmest thanks and best wishes. >> very nice. that's it for me this hour. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." "newsroom" continues right now with brooke baldwin. wolf, thank you so much. hi, there. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you so much for joining me here on this wednesday. we begin with more good news. thirst, this family and their incredible story of survival, and just in about their condition. for 48 hours, this nevada family of six including four young children did whatever they could to stay alive. stranded in the rugged terrain in nevada's seven troughs region, fighting for survival after they jeep slid upside down and into this crevice.
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joining me now, stephanie elam, who has this new information. several of these people have been released from the hospital where you are. tell me who. two people, the mom and youngest child. the girl who was almost four years old, they have been released. the others, they're keeping them here for more observation, more i.v.s. they want to keep an eye on their blood work. they say the way their kidneys are processing, they want to make sure everything is okay. but all in all, the kids are playing back there, we hear. we hear they're all in good spirits and happy to look forward to this christmas knowing they're safe and sound now back in a warm environment of their town here in nevada. >> let's take a listen to that update. >> i don't have details on how they rationed the food, but they kept woarm and hydrated as they could. they started a fire immediately as soon as the accident
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happened. they didn't leave their vehicle. they didn't panic. they let people know they were going to be out. when they did not return at the end of the day, the search got started at the end of the evening. >> how were they rescued, stephanie? >> it's amazing because what they were able to do, they call it cell phone forensics, but what they started to do was track down the pings coming off their phones. nay found the last tower with the last ping and changed the direction of their search. at the same time, they were spotted from the air, they were also spotted with binoculars on the ground and they found the family there huddled in by the car. amazing, the cause of that, and the other thing, too, everyone keeps saying it, they did the right thing by staying together and staying in the car and just working on keeping everyone warm. and the parents did a really great job here of doing that for these four children, brooke. >> sharing that one candy bar among all of them for those two days. stephanie elam, amazing. thank you so much. also happening in
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washington, this investigative hearing on the crash of asiana airlines plane in san francisco. the details coming out of this hearing are stunning and we'll get to them in a moment. first, let me remind you what happened. this was back this summer, july 6th. this is new video in to cnn. watch this with me. you see this init shows the moments when this flight 214 hit the sea wall near the runway at san francisco international airport. that crash killed two chinese teenagers and injured 181 other passengers. a third teen was killed by a truck, this foam truck, that had responded to the scene, and now as the national transportation safety board is investigating what caused this crash, we have learned some disturbing new details from the first officer who was sittin in that cockpit behind those pilots. so cnn's rene marsh has been working that for us today. what specifically, rene, have been learned from the first officer? >> well, brooke, the first
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officer told investigators that just 52 seconds before the crash, he warned the crew that the plane was descending too fast. pilots who have flown 777s told me 52 seconds is more than enough time to correct the problem, but for some reason, the problem was not corrected. also, based on investigator interviews, we now know the pilot flying the plane was uncomfortable with the landing he was about to make, saying visual approaches are, quote, difficult and stressful. and when he was asked how confident he was with the 777's automated systems, he said not so confident and he felt he should study more. again, quoting from the investigator's interview. now, one last thing, brooke, we know that investigators are concerned about pilots' overrely nls on these automated systems. they thought this auto throttle which is the equivalent of cruise control, was engaged, but it actually wasn't.
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that was the problem there, it caused plane to go dangerously slow. >> in addition to these new details coming out today from this hearing, part of the conversation it seems to me today, is also turned to korean culture and how that may have affected what happened on board that plane as far as culture made a deferential culture. >> right, we know this pilot who was at the controls, he was a pilot in training, and he could have aborted that landing. he could have aborted the approach, but in an interview with vogue investigator whz asked whether he contemplated aborting the approach, he said, and i'm quoting him now, that would have been a very hard decision. and the reason why it would have been a hard decision is because the person in the cockpit who is more senior to him didn't make that call, so he would have felt awkward making the call before his senior made the call, brooke, so there you have it. >> rene marsh, thank you very much. also breaking today, senator
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lamar alexander has removed his chief of staff because of allegations of child pornography, no charges yet against the man, but postal inspectors have been searching his home. senator alexander put his chief of staff on leave without pay and released a statement. let me quote it. i am stunned, surprised, and disappointed by what i have learned. the office is fully cooperating with the investigation. from the senator alexander. coming up, american malls are at risk and al qaeda knows it. that from my next guest, after this stunning investigation into that kenyan mall attack. plus, john boehner ripping his fellow republicans who are criticizing the budget deal. what the speaker says they're getting all wrong. and a, yes, talk of the selfie. the photographer who snapped this selfie picture of president obama is telling the real story. find out whether he thinks michelle obama was upset over this or not.
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welcome back. i'm brooke baldwin. there is no way to protect our shopping malls from a terrorist attack, and al qaeda knows it. that is what some are taking away by the new report by the nypd. it's looking at what can be done to avoid a frightening and deadly situation like the one we saw play out in kenya back in september where more than 60 people were killed by terrorists from the al qaeda affiliated group al shabaab. they sent two detectives there to watch as it unfolded and the findings of this report may shock you because it turns out it wasn't a group of more than a dozen men holding this mall hostage. no, no, it was four men.
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four. and despite the stand-off, they may have escaped hours after the attack. so joining me now to talk about this, chris dickey, paris bruro chief and middle east editor for the daily beast. welcome to you. we read your piece this morning, and you write about the findings of the report. before we get to the implications of our malls here in the u.s., tell me about, let's just call it a mass deception that happened inside that westgate mall. >> well, you know, you have four guys who move in very smartly, very quickly, with guns. and maybe a hand full of grenades, maybe four or five grenades. they take everybody by surprise. they create chaos. and then they settle back. they were probably only in the mall for 12 hours. and they probably escaped after that time. but they created such chaos in the meantime, and terrified so many people that the so-called siege went on for two more days.
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it's a perfect example of what happens when you don't have well coordinated police, when you don't have a clear evacuation plan, and when you have four committed terrorists, even though their armament was the kind that people can acquire very, very easily in the united states. there was nothing special about it. >> my takeaway, chris, in reading your piece, taking it back here to home, is the fact that you say there is really no way to protect our malls and al qaeda knows it. how so? >> well, you know, i think there are things that can be done. i think you see it for instance at the mall of america in minnesota, where they're very well aware of security problems, where they have regular drills. >> every month. >> i'm sorry? >> i said every month, from what i have read. >> yeah, and everybody knows pretty much what they're supposed to do. that helps in a situation like this. one of the things that happened
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in nairobi that could happen in an american mall easily is the shooters moved in and people decided to hide out in the little boutiques and stores. once they did that, those people were essentially trapped. the killers just moved from one store to the other, whenever they found people in store rooms or trying to hide in a freezer, in a butcher department, in a supermarket, they killed them. they weren't interested in taking hostages. they were interested in slaughtering as many people as they could, and that's what they did. that's what people need to be aware of and protect against. the best thing you can do is anything like this happened in the united states, and of course, we hope it doesn't, is to get out of the mall very quickly. >> get out. that's what i wanted to ask you. that's the one big takeaway. heaven forbid it happened here. talked to ray kelly, he said, yes, they know, yes, these are soft target potentials, but get out. thank you. coming up, republicans and democrats come to an agreement on a budget deal, and today, the
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speaker of the house, john boehner, calling republican critics of that deal, and i'm quoting him, ridiculous. and that is just the beginning. but next, president obama poses for a selfie at the nelson mandela memorial. you've seen this. so what do you think? was it rude? was it harmless? and see michelle obama there, her face? what's the real story behind that? that's coming up. no matter how busy your morning you can always do something better for yourself. and better is so easy with benefiber. fiber that's taste-free, grit-free and dissolves completely. so you can feel free to add it to anything. and feel better about doing it. better it with benefiber.
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for you, the first lady, and what appears to be, let's call it a disinterested look. a new york tabloid even suggests it's flirty. the problem is the guy who took the picture, today saying no. that is not the case, because he says just seconds before, michelle obama was laughing with the group. the photographer goes on to remind people that photos lie and this certainly isn't the first time a picture has been taken out of context. exhibit a, condi rice, 2006. as secretary of state, she's at a summit with diplomats. looks like she's frustrated, right? no, all she did is brush a hair from her face. that didn't stop news outlets, including cnn, from running this. how about will smith and his kids, shocked by the moves miley cyrus showed onstage? thing is, that was taken during a lady gog gaga performance.
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this is our cnn senior media correspondent, brian stelter, host of "reliable sources. let's begin here with the cover, for everyone who doesn't live here. this is what it says, when michelle freezes over. overreaction, much? >> proof it's a tabloid, right? i'm sure every husband and wife have frights. i'm sure the president and first lady do. this is not one of them. what we really needed instead of a photo was a video because we need to go backwards and forwards and see what it was all like in that suite where they were. >> what do you think, though? because i posted something about the selfie last night and people jumped all over it because this was a memorial, a somber event. who does the president of the united states think he is taking a selfie? that's what a lot of people are saying. >> i'm glad the photographer in this piece wrote a blog post to explain what he saw. sometimes photos don't speak for them selve. we do need to hear the context.
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the photographer basically said although this was a memorial service, it was anything but somber. a joyous occasion. >> dancing, singing, music. >> many, many hours long. at some point, you know, it's understandable you might not be paying full attention to the people onstage. we have probable all been in that situation, but out of context, it is outrageous. the adage a photograph is worth 1,000 words, they're not always the right 1,000 words. >> not always, absolutely. i will say i went online last night to see if it was on president obama's twitter page, the see the other side of the selfie. we'll talk presidential twittering next hour with you. so don't go too far, brian. you can watch him sundays right here in the morning at 11:00 on reliable sources. we'll see you in an hour. now, if there's a winner in the whole selfie fiasco, is probably is the danish prime minister who just upped her profile on the world stage. her name, helle thornton-schmi t
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thornton-schmidt. 46 years old, married, elected denmark's first female prime minister just a couple years ago. before that, she led the country's social democrats. she's been called, quote, the gucci helle for her stylish wardrobe. now you know. >> coming up, we're watching washington. any moment on capitol hill, a vote in honor of this little girl. >> it's not fair. just because, you know, we don't know as much doesn't mean we're not important. >> gabriella miller died from a brain tumor weeks ago. and in her honor, republicans want more money for cancer research, but there's a but. democrats are calling this bill a fraud. we'll tell you why next.
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at this hour, a bill that is named for a child who died in october of cancer is nearing a vote in congress. house democrats have mobilized to kill it. you heard me right. democrats are trying to kill this legislation named for gabriella miller. gabriella miller, absolutely precious child. she died in october just ten years old, of a brain tumor. so i know what you're thinking,
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why are democrats trying to kill this bill? this is an amazing story. they say it's a ploy by republicans to make it look like they are fighting cancer, when actually they have cut funding for cancer research by more than a billion dollars. as i said, amazing story. here is cnn's dana bash. >> everywhere 10-year-old gabriella miller went, she brought a frying pan to smash a walnut. even at the eiffel tower in paris. it started when gabriella's father broke the news to his young daughter that she had a brain tumor. >> they told us it was about the size of a walnut, so we would take a few walnuts outside and give them a good whack with a frying pan. >> she became a warrior against cancer. hers and others. >> it's not fair, just because, you know, we don't know as much doesn't mean we're not important. >> the millers quickly learned how little was available for
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kids with cancer. >> gabriella questioned all the time, why don't they have a real drug that will work for us kids? >> less than 4% of $5 billion in cancer research goes to childhood cancers. >> one of my fears is that more like really young children are going to die. >> she almost seemed like an old soul. >> we've heard that a lot. she got it. she understood. >> once you get cancer, you kind of got to be all grown up. and you don't really have a childhood. >> but gabriella embraced activism in secndnline videos with a simple message to politici politicians. >> stop talking and start doing. >> six weeks ago, gabriella lost her 11-month battle with cancer, but her message got threw.
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republican gregg harper and democrat peter welch want to take $126 million federal dollars over ten years set aside for political conventions and direct it toward pediatric research. eric cantor named the bill after gabriella miller. >> it's pretty rare to name a piece of legislation after a person. >> you can be a really inspiring story for people. instead of spending money on political conventions for political parties, shouldn't we have as our priority, medical research for kids? >> still, it's not without controversy. >> this bill of leader cantor is an absolute fraud. >> some senior democrats oppose this as a publicity stunt to pay for billions in cuts to cancer research. >> if there's some way you can do it, just a little bit, why not do it? >> as a mother and a grandmother, my heart goes out to gabriella's mother. bring back the $1.55 billion they cut from the national
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institutes of health. >> cantor vows to work on that, and the democratic sponsor says he too wants it invested, but you have to start somewhere. >> can't we put the battle-axes down for a while and take a step forward. i think we can. >> all of this in the name of gabriella. >> i want people to carry on for more. they can win this more. i'll be in a good place. >> dana bash, dana bash, you took the words right out of my mouth when you said she seemed like an old soul. her story and the politics of all this, explain to me why exactly are the house democrats working so hard to kill this bill named in this little girl's honor? >> it is counter intuitive, but they are working against it. this is a whip alert that just
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went out ahead of the vote, which by the way, i should say, is going to happen momentarily on the house floor. house democrats are urging rank and file democrats not to vote for this. because they say, as you heard from nita lowey in my piece, that this is a publicity stunt by republicans and to be more specific, what they argue is that this is in budgetary terms, simply to authorize the money, which would be about $13 million, with an "m", million dollars a year, and it wouldn't actually appropriate and designate the money for any kind of research, cancer or other, for pediatric care at the nih. again, they're arguing it's not what republicans say it is. on the flipside, as you heard from the democrat in my piece, never mind eric cantor, the house majority whip democrat, this is a baby step and you have to start somewhere, and why not at least make the gesture to authorize this money that was
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for political convengtions and o this way? i did speak with gabriella's parents about this, let them know that a lot of democrats thought that this was nothing more than a publicity stunt, that they were basically being taken advantage of, and they strongly disagreed. they said they're very sophisticated people, and i can tell you by talking to them, they are. this is not easy, and i can also tell you they're going to be here to watch this vote which will happen in a short while. >> let us know. you'll be watching for the vote. let us know. we'll talk to dana bash on capitol hill. thank you for that story. >> house speaker john boehner went off. he went off late this morning on right-wing groups that want to defeat the two-year budget agreement announced around this time yesterday. want you to take a listen here to speaker boehner. he won't even hear the whole question because he's ready for this. >> those major conservative groups that put out statements blasting this deal, are you --
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>> you mean the groups that came out and apodesed it before they ever saw it? >> yes, those groups. are you worriy ies -- >> they're using our mibs and using the american people for their own goals. this is ridiculous. listen, if you're for more deficit reduction, you're for this agreement. >> did i see a teensy little grin then, maybe? either way, that's john boehner defending the budget deal. here are the very basics. no new taxes. that's number one. number two, relief from automatic cuff said to the military, plus an equal boost to nondefense spending. then you have the deficit reduction, an estimated $23 billion. gloria borger, chief political analyst joining me from washington. nice to see you. >> good to see you. >> let's talk about speaker boehner. what was that all about? >> i think -- i think what we saw was kind of the left over frustration from the government shutdown. i mean, you could almost hear him saying, are you guys nuts?
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okay, because what he understands, what he understands is that the country has absolutely no appetite to go to the brink again. over shutting down the government. he also understands that actually if you look at polling, republicans have made some gains lately. maybe it's because of the affordable care act. but they have made some gains. if they just cool it and avert a government shutdown, the republicans i talked to are saying, you know what? we can -- we can get some advantage here, heading into the midterm elections. he doesn't want to go through that all over again. so i think it was kind of a left over from october. >> interesting. so a little momentum rolling into the midterms. speaking of polling, let me ask you about this because i'm hearing a lot of talk maybe the president, the president has turned things around in terms of popularity since the health care rollout debacle. w we have a slew of new polls, this is our average, the poll of polls. approval rating, 42%.
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i know what you're thinking. not exactly great, but it is up by as muchads two points, gloria borger, what do you make of that? >> maybe he recovered from the worst of it, but what we're looking at is a president that is somewhere between the low of 32% and a high of maybe 42%. to maybe a little higher than that. and i think what you're seeing, particularly heading into the sixth year of a presidency is an american public who figures out, they know who the president is, they like him better than they like either of the democrats or the republicans. he's not as transformational as they would have hoped, but he is what he is. and you know, i believe that, you know, so while he's recovered from the debacle that was obama care, in the rollout, i think he may have kind of reached his level. now, the variable, of course, is the economy. if the economy, if we get 3% gdp
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and if health care starts going gang busters and he gets an iranian nuclear deal, of course, he can get a bump up. but he's never going to be in the stratosphere again. >> a good deal for him. >> yeah. >> gloria, thank you very much. nice to see you again. coming up next, the backlash over the cnn film "blackfish." is growing. another group, another band, cancelling their concert scheduled at seaworld. we'll tell you which one. >> also ahead, a 6-year-old boy accused of sexual harassment after kissing a first grader class mate on the hand. i know. what is going on here? we'll talk about that story after this quick break. stay with me. [ male announcer ] if you can clear a crowd but not your nasal congestion, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec-d®. powerful relief of nasal congestion and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill. zyrtec-d®. at the pharmacy counter.
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♪ mommy's all right, daddy's all right ♪ ♪ they just seem a little weird ♪ >> that's what i was waiting for. we needed a little cheap trick to explain the story for you. fans hoping to hear that classic song "suresender" by this band seaworld orlando next year, you're out of luck because the band has reportedly canceled its show after thousands of fans signed a change.org petition
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demanding the band drop their performance at the clock amid the controversy surrounding cnn's film "blackfish" and that adds to the list of bands that have dropped out of seaworld. the barenaked ladies, willie nelson, and finally, heart. now to this colorado boy who admits he's a handful. >> have you been trying to be good at school? >> yes, but i have a lot of energy. 6-year-o 6-year-olds, they have a lot of energy. >> a lot going on, mom, come on. does this first grader look like a sexual harasser to you? well, that's precisely the offense now listed in his school record after hunter yetten kissed a girl in class. a repeat violation that got this little guy suspended. >> we were doing reading group.
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and i leaned over and kissed her on the hand. >> this is taking it to an extreme that doesn't need to be met with a 6-year-old. now, my son's asking questions. what is sex, mommy? it should not ever be said, sex in a sentence with a 6-year-old. >> doing our due diligence, this is what the school superintendent says. the boy's actions meet the definition of sexual harassment and it will not be removed from his record. however, it's a record kept only in the district. just this afternoon, hunter's mom told us the principal is going to approach the superintendent, ask them to reconsider moving the term sexual harassment from the boy's file. let's talk to wendy wall. what? that's my first reaction when i heard about this. i'm sure you were thinking the same thing. when i hear this mom saying this little 6-year-old is now saying, mom, what is sex? what does this do to him?
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>> well, i also think it's perfectly okay at the age of 6 to discuss what sex is. but i think we're trying to put adult ideas on these poor children. i don't even know if this girl was so harmed by the kiss on the hand in the class. >> a great point. we don't know. >> maybe her parents have this feeling about it. we don't know the harm to the victim. and i think that we're justing have a lot of adults put adult beliefs on these kids, and you should understand, brooke, that sexual development in children happens in a very gentle, sweet, exploratory, hand touching, whatever, and eventually ends up at the age of 18 being a fully blossoming sexual relationship. if you could say it's zero tolerance, you must not touch a human until you're 18 and they're 18, too, how are they going to learn to love each other? >> when it comes to the little girl, apparentlyering according to the superintendensuperintend
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not want to be kissed. how should schools handle this unwanted touching? >> this is what you call a beautiful teaching moment. this is a time to bring both kids together, discuss their feelings about what happened. get the parents involved. and help them have some empathy for each other's experience. the girl, once she hears maybe his feelings for her, actually might be flattered by the touch. and by the way, what is more gentlemanly than a kiss on the hand? we're now, you know, sort of arresting a child, if you will -- he wasn't arrested, but suspended a child, certainly, for being a gentleman. >> i know. maybe at 6, this little girl says, hey, i mean, good for this little boy. i wasn't so interested in boys at 6, but who knows. hopefully this gets erased from his file, but this is something that caught our attention and we wanted to talk about it with you. thank you for joining me. >> thanks, brooke. coming up next, drum roll,
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visit in rio de janeiro, and photos like this, holding and kissing that disfigured man. "time" has placed the pope at the center of our conversation. with me, rona a faruhar. what separated pope francis from all the others you looked at? >> for starters, he's the new leader of one of the world's largest institutions. he's the hoed of a faith with 1.2 million followers and many people listening in this age of social media. by the way, the pope was the most talked about person on facebook and twitter. this is a man who has reached an area of social media. >> more than facebook and twitter, because i'm thinking of edward snowden? >> also on our short list. a lot of people think, why didn't he win? >> runner-up, right? >> runner-up, and it was a tough choice. we do, by the way, have an interview by him, which we got by e-mail in the magazine.
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he's got a lot of interesting things to say. the connective tissue is they're both disrupters. these are people you didn't hear of a year ago. >> wikileaks were none too pleased. they tweeted this, no question who influenced the news the most this year. the criteria you had, whistle blowers as person of the year in the past. why not snowden? >> it could have been him. in another year, it could have been him. i think just because we're talking about the pope, and we're talking about the pope, a man who is putting himself at the center of the biggest debates of our time, inequality. he's talking about trickle down economics. you never thought a pope would talk about that. he's putting himself at the heart of technological debates. the sense of disconnection people feel with each other in this era of high speed, inequality, globalization. we felt he came out just ahead, but it was a tough call. >> what about the women? because you haven't had a person
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of the year on the cover of your magazine since 1986. there were three. these are the three who are in your top ten this year. but why not a woman? >> well, you know, you can look at that short list. >> and look at these different women, by the way. could they be more different? >> that's true. a lot of disrupters, right? people shaking up the status quo. i think we may be at a tipping point. if you look at who typically wins person of the year, it's something who really dominates the news, often is at the top of an institution, a country, or is a major disrupter. women are taking on more and more leadership roles, no question about it. >> how about the new ceo of gm? >> absolutely. she has plenty of time to win. >> thank you very much. nice to see you from "time" magazine. coming up here, a texas honor student gunned down by campus police, shot five times during this late-night traffic stop. so obviously, the main question, what happened? we have an exclusive interview with that young man's family, and they respond to police who
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a former elementary school teacher once honored as teacher of the year, now must serve 38 years in a florida state prison. >> you, ms. anderson, are a parent's worst nightmare. >> a jury convicted 31-year-old ethyl anderson of nine counts of molesting a 12-year-old boy. anderson tutored him at her home. our affiliate is reporting she said the sexting and touching were part of a sexual therapy to help the boy deal with problems at school.
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through sobs, she pleaded for mercy in her sentencing monday. >> i'm not a sexual predator. i don't present a threat to our society. i'm a mother. i'm not a monster. i truly wish that none of this would have ever happened because all i want is to go back to being isabel's mom. this is not my life. i keep praying that god -- i appreciate my life more and show me that my life does have purpose. i shared all this with you judge in the hopes that there must be something you can see in me. to show a little mercy. >> but the judge says anderson groomed that little boy after prosecutors showed 230 explicit texts between anderson and the
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child. his mother also spoke to the court through a letter the prosecutor read. >> i know that the law will take care of you the way you need to be dealt with. there were many times during the trial i wish i could have gotten up my my seat to scream, yell, or slap you. i feel like i could tear you apart with my hands, but those who know me know i would never do that. you have turned me into a very angry and cynical mother. >> anderson is married. she has a 6-year-old daughter. her attorney plans to appeal the sentence. and we continue on. i'm brooke baldwin. top of the hour. thank you so much for being with me. let's begin with this incredible story of survival out of nevada. this family of six, including four young children, found alive. two of them, the mother and the daughter, the youngest, just released from the hospital after being stranded in the rugged and freezing terrain of nevada's seven troughs mountain range for
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48 freedzing hours. the family what out for a day trip to the snow, wanted to have fun. while driving through the back country, their jeep, as you'll see here, went off the road. slid down into this crevice, upside down. to survive, you know what they did? they stayed put. lighting a fire outside the overturned jeep. heating rocks. placing them in a spare tire to keep the children warm through the minus 20 degree nights. their rescue came after a couple of pings from one of their cell phones. a friend with binoculars also spotted them while scanning the mountainside. how about that. joining me now, shane, founder and owner of the mountain scout survival school. nice to meet you. >> great to meet you. >> let's just begin with your biggest takeaway, the greatest thing they did during that two-day ordeal. >> i have to commend them. they did a lot of things. one of the best things is they remained calm and focused on what they needed to do right
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then and there. they stayed together, and they also stayed with the vehicle. more often than not, they wander. >> why is that key? >> most people feel like if they're trapped or the vehicle is broken down, they have a better chance of actually making it on their own. the fact of the matter is, is it doesn't also turn out the best. stay with your vehicle. stay with the last point seen. this helped search and rescue agencies all across the board. >> a lot of survivalists say the biggest enemy isn't necessarily the weather, the desolate situation, but it's your mind. you could get overwhelmed. >> for sure, an overwhelming layer of emotions. you're dealing with not only your children, but now you have somebody else's children. i can't imagine what they were going through, but they did the right thing. they stayed true to the task at hand. the amount of the emotions, acknowledge them, but put them on the side and keep going with what you have to do. had core basic essentials are fire, water, shelter, food. the fact he heated up rocks, it's an old technique.
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you can heat, cook with it, dig a ditch, lay on top of it, so brilliant, great thinking for him. the fact he used the tire for a fire and fuel, use the resources at hand. >> what didn't they do? what would you have done differently? maybe starting with the food? >> i think preplanning certainly comes a long way. if you're going to take the time to go out and enjoy your recreation, kayaking, hiking, whatever that may be -- >> take some stuff with you. >> take extra stuff with you. you're in the vehicle. they had their vehicle. there's no reason you couldn't have extra water rations, blankets, and otherwise. even games. especially when it comes to the children. so preplanning makes a big deal. in terms of telling everyone where you're going, when you expect to come back, what route you're taking, and communication options. i know the cell phone, the ping, helped coordinate this effort. there are a lot of really cool gizmos on the market these days. in fact, they have become quite reasonable. more notable is the little gps locater for skiers when
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avalanche occurs. >> sure. >> there's. no reason this couldn't be used in a situation like this. >> i suppose it's one thing inyou're going out for a while. if you know you're going out there, think ahead and bring some of these with you. shane, thank you very much. founder and owner of mountain scout survival school. nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you. and now happening in washington, an investigative hearing on the crash of an asiana airlines plane in san francisco. details coming out this hour. this is what we've heard already. i'll share it with you. it's been absolutely stunning. we'll get to that in a moment. first, let's go back to what happened july 6th. look at this with me. this is new video just in to cnn. this shows the moments when this flight 214 hit the seawall. this is near the runway at san francisco international airport. ooh, it's a crash that killed two chinese teenagers and injured 181 other passengers. and then a third teenager killed by a folk emergency truck here was responding to the scene.
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now, as the national transportation safety board investigates what caused that fatal crash, we have learned disturbing new details from the first officer who was sitting behind those pilots. so for that, let's go to washington to rene marsh, and rene, tell me what we've learned from the first officer. >> well, brooke, a 52 seconds before the crash, we know that the first officer warned the crew that the plane was descending too fast. pilots who have blown 777s say 52 seconds is more than enough time to react and correct the problem, but for whatever reason, the problem was not also, wnow kwhathe pot flng the plane was uncomfortable with landing it visually, without the help of .nrunt teluiim healle vl approaches, quote, difficult and stressful, and we also know that he wasn't very confident about how the 777's automated systems worked. and he felt that, according to
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what he told to investigators, he should have studied it a little bit more. as we have been reporting, brooke, we know that investigators are concerned about pilots overreliance on these automated cockpit systems and today at the hearing, we just saw, still going on, they questioned an expert about how the systems work. take a listen. >> we accept the fact that pilots, as all humans, make errors. we try to make errors that can be corrected. and noticed. and lastly, at least for today, as we apply automation as a tool to aid the pilot, not replace the pilot. >> all right, so just like cruise control in a car, it does not replace the driver. and in this case, we know that the pilot thought that the automated system was preset to a specific speed. but it turns out the system was not engaged. problematic, one last thing, brooke, we spoke to a couple pilots. they say this suggested a couple
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of possibilities. either, a, they weren't cross-checking that equipment, or b, they didn't fully understand how to operate this automated system. both of those extremely horrifying if you're a passenger on that plane. >> can't imagine. and then let's add that this other layer of the story, the conversation is also turning to looking more into korean culture, more of a deferential culture, perhaps this one person, you know, didn't want to speak up. >> absolutely. and that was a question that the investigators asked him. they said, did you at any point think about aborting this landing? and the answer that this pilot gave was that this would be a very difficult decision because the person who was in the cockpit was more senior than him, didn't make that call. and he felt that he would have been in a very difficult position to make that call without his senior doing it first. >> rene marsh, thank you. coming up next, a college student killed. shot five times by police. cameron was on the dean's list.
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he was co-valedictorian of his high school. investigators say he resisted arrest, that he assaulted this officer. but his parents, they talked exclusively to cnn about what happened with their son that night. we have that for you. also, a community outraged. three teens arrested just waiting for the school bus. they claim they were unfairly targeted so they fought back. and guess what? they got results. a lot of people talking, too, about the supermodel mom, gisele, posted a picture on instagram. you is to wait for it. we'll show you why a lot of moms are praising but also criticizing her today. [ male announcer ] the new new york is open.
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the family of a texas college student shot dead by police officer. the family is talking about what happen today their son. cameron, a student at the university of the incarnate word died after being shot five times last week during this scuffle with campus police. he had been pulled over for erratic driving. now, the officer's report cited him as being drunk, being disobedient, violent. that incident is now under investigation, and cnn correspondent george howell traveled to his family home in seabrook where his family unleashed an outpouring of emotion over the tragic loss of their son. >> if you both had one word to describe him, what would it be? >> adventurous. >> adventurous, i would say. or maybe passionate. because adventure was one of his passions.
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he genuinely cared about people. so people responded to that. >> that picture, that was the last time cameron was with his friends. >> the night ended so tragically, but i was glad he got to spend it with his classmates. it comforted me to be able to see that picture. see the smile on his face. i was glad to get to meet some of those kids. it helped me to cope with the tragedy. they all began to pour their hearts open to us and tell us what a fascinating person he was and how much they wanted to be like him, and how much he encouraged them, inspired them. >> the university has put out a statement, the police are releasing some facts. we still don't know all the fact, but as a family, how do you deal with the contradiction, these two stories about who you know cam to be and what you're hearing? >> i know the man.
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that i have seen for 23 years. i know what he's become. i know how steadfast and true to the way we brought him up. i just feel like the truth will come out. >> we want to know what happened. and so we're reserving judgment. we wish that everybody else would do the same. would reserve judgment until the facts are known. but we do believe, knowing his character, knowing who cameron was, knowing the boy that we raised to manhood and the young man he had become, we really believe that when we get the facts, they're going to show that he did not deserve what ended up happening that night. >> george howell joins me now. george, so hearing these parents, you hear them say the truth will come out, let's talk about the investigation. where does it stand right now?
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>> brooke, we understand that this will be a two-week investigation. and during that time, and throughout, we know that corporal chris carter, he has been placed on paid administrative lead. keep in mind, this officer has reportedly had eight jobs in nine years. they'll definitely be looking into his background, also looking into exactly what he says happened that night. you heard there in the interview, the family is just waiting to hear more details. they're trying to withhold judgment until they get the full story. again, you know, brooke, this family, they were excited. they were looking forward to a graduation come may, but now we know that they are planning for a funeral that is set for tomorrow. >> george howell for us in seabrook, texas. george, thank you. here's a question. how do you reach millions of people in a matter of seconds? twitter, of course. george h.w. bush now part of the twitter verse. officially today, so that got us thinking, which president has the most followers and how does
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that compare to other big-name celeb tweeters. if you are on social media, you probably have heard of this story. supermodel gisele posted a picture of her instagram that has some moms outraged. we'll share the picture and talk about the buzz next. mine was earned orbiting the moon in 1971. afghanistan in 2009. on the u.s.s. saratoga in 1982. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve current and former military members and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. just 15.99. start with soup, salad and cheddar bay biscuits then choose one of eight entrees plus dessert! four perfect courses, just 15.99. come in to red lobster today and sea food differently.
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you know the saying, a picture can say 1,000 words. one particular instagram of -- she's absolutely gorgeous when you see the picture, but we're going to talk about the implications. gisele bundchen is igniting another debate about breast
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feeding. she's posted this photo of herself yesterday. you be the judge. it shows her with her glam squad, as she called them, while she's breast feeding her 1-year-old daughter, divian lake. this is what she said. quote, what would i do without this beauty squad after the 15 hours flying and only three hours of sleep? hash tag #multitasking tag #multitasking, #gettingready . what looks like multitasking for this mom is stirring up more chatter about when and where it is appropriate to breast feed. this is not the first time this nfl and wife has media. three years ago, she got some backlash about comments she made to harper's bazaar magazine when she suggested six months of mandatory breast feeding should be the law. they reached out for her camp for the reaction to the response to her instagram, so far, no response. let's talk about this with the moms. both sides, melissa and denise
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albert, creators of the sliefl website, the moms.com. ladies, nice to see you. >> thank you for having us. >> you say this is awesome. you say this is obnoxious. let's begin with the obnoxious picture. let's throw the picture back up and tell me what is obnoxious about the photo? >> there a few things. first, breast feeding is a personal choice. gisele, this is on the heels of her other comments. i think it's not really sort of emcompassing the whole everyone is different opinion. i get attacked for saying it's obnoxious and saying it's a personal choice, but it is a personal choice. i think this is not really how america operates. i mean, in terms of the multitasking, it's a very elitist picture. it is obnoxious, and i think that the world can't relate to that. we would all love to be glammed and have glam squads every day. >> i think there is a whole other layer of the picture
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beyond the breast feeding. melissa, you say it's beautiful. >> it's beautiful, because the woman, the mother breast feeds. america has to get over it. >> some, not all. >> allot do and america has to do it. this is her job, she's a model. she hasn't become the biggest supermodel in the world for sitting on day. she makes a good living. this is part of her job. yes, she's getting her hair and nails done. i breast fed by scrambling eggs. >> i hear working moms because you're thinking working mom? she's working by getting her nails done and her face done and her hair done. you're brushing your teeth. it's not the same thing. >> that's her reality, that's her job. if you don't want to look at her instagram or follow with the 1.2 million followers, you don't have to. >> i'm not looking at it, but everyone is talking about it. it's a good topic of conversation. i think problem is, i'm not saying she shouldn't do her job. that's her job and good for her, but i think that if she has a statement to make, there might have been a better way to do
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that. show me carrying your kid while you're at the supermarket or while you're working on the set. you know -- >> not with the beauty jaud. >> show me your work. >> are we just jealous? >> yes, we're jealous and we're judging. and to call her obnoxious is ridiculous. she's feeding her baby, which is a natural thing to do. and it's what mothers need to do. >> why is she posting that? >> because it's her instagram. >> she did it for a reason while she's getting her hair and makeup done. do it on a set while your kids are playing in between takes. i'm not coming down on her for being a supermodel. this is her job and we understand that. or for breast feeding. it's not about breast feeding. it's the picture and which ch e choices she made to post the picture. show me you're working. >> she is working, that is her job. that's a great message for working moms because companies need to take notice and let us feed our babies in the work force. >> boom, what do you think?
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send me a tweet where kwd love to hear what you think. latdys, thank you very much. themoms.com. >> coming up next, a touching story about this little girl and her fight to save others from cancer. >> it's not fair. just because, you know, we don't know as much doesn't mean we're not important. >> sadly, gabriella miller died from a brain tumor just weeks ago. any minute, congress will vote on a bill in her name. it would give more money to cancer research. it may have a tough time passing. we'll explain the broader context here, the politics at play, and get reaction from gabriella's parents. they'll join me live, next. [ male announcer ] the new new york is open.
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barbara could have gone with the delegation that went for the service. then clinton tweeting bush 41, congrats on joining twitter. mr. president, easier than skydiving. you have it today, presidents tweeting presidents. laurie siegel, brian stelter. to talk about all the tweeting among these presidents. laurie, let's begin with you. how many president sas are on twitter. >> barack obama, first one to join. everybody knew him as the twitter president. he was on there before he became president. he's the fourth most followed person on twitter. bill clinton, in april he jo joined. he has over a million followers, and as of today, bush senior. he has 63,000 followers and that's going to go up quickly. katy perry has 48 million followers. >> hello. >> justin bieber, 47 million
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followers. bo b got in early. he has tons of followers, but you see the appeal for these guys to join. people want to hear from these former presidents. >> they do, my next thought, though, is who is really tweeting? i know with barack obama, right, isn't it the b.o.? that's how we know? >> he has a strange way to sign off as i do. b.s. b.o. is a strange way to sign your tweets, but i like he does that because you bow it's really the president tweeting. otherwise, it's his staff. there's a whole team in charge of tweeting for him. i have a feeling that's the case for clinton and for h.w. bush as well. you know, these people have a lot of pr people all around them to take care of them. >> with the pr people come the official tweets and the official photos. don't you want the barack obama selfie on the twitter page? come on, white house. that's what i want. >> i like how the white house tweeted to h.w. bush and said welcome to twitter. how about the crazy socks? i have taken my crazy sock inspiration from h.w. bush, by
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the way. >> excellent. >> it's the pictures where you feel like you're behind the scenes. thoughts what makes twitter special. the idea you can have access to somebody like this, you could see an intimate moment of bill clinton with his wife hillary clinton in hyde park. he said i'm enjoying a lovely day with my wife. that's where you feel like you're connected and that the power of technology when you use it the right way. >> they're definitely sculpting their personas. they're thinking through every tweet before they post it. >> they have to. they should, right. we may want the screw-ups. >> if they don't, we'll talk about it. >> it is a great way to make announcements. i remember when the white house got a new dog and it was revealed via youtube and twitter. it was fun to see the dog that way, admittedly in a vipted, organized way, but the most personal way to release that. >> your sock inspiration could also come from sanjay gupta. have you looked at his socks? >> i don't think i have. >> that's an aside. >> i'll tweet him right now and ask about it. >> thanks. and watch brian each sunday,
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11:00 a.m., right here on cnn for "reliable sources." >> health secretary kathleen sebelius back in the hot seat, getting hammered today by questioned from the house subcommittee about the progress of the obama care website, and it has made some progress. we have numbers, ladies and gentlemen. new numbers, showing 364,682 people signed up for health insurance from the beginning of october through the end of november. now, of those, you see this here. a little more than 137,000 used the federal exchange. more than 227,000 signed up on exchanges run by the states. these numbers are up from a total of 106,000 who signed unin october. you know, encouraging news, yes, but not so encouraging when we know that 7 million americans -- put this in context, 7 million were projected to enroll by the end of march 2014.
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that's mere months away. what's got sebelius slammed today as she told the panel the website's hub has worked beautifully. that's her quote. here a few highlights from the hearing today. >> the hub has worked beautifully from start to finish. >> look, you've testified this morning that there is -- people cannot actually make their payment now when they go on healthcare.gov. >> no, that's not accurate, sir. i said a lot of people haven't yet made their payment. the payment isn't due. >> will you admit they will have a higher premium? >> no, i do not. i think what a lot of actuaries will tell you if you have preventive care and prevent a most costly hospital stay, cancer -- >> all right, i got it. >> down the line, that cost lowers the premium. >> it's like talking to the republican preea, or something. >> americans have until december 23rd to select a policy if they want coverage to start the first
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of the year. coming up next, dramatic story about three teens who said they were unfairly targeted by police. they claim they were just waiting for the school bus. but police are telling a different story. and now the district attorney is weighing in. has some strong, strong words about this case. we'll talk about that. and remember air force one. we wanted to be a fly on the wall. pete was on there, our white house photographer. he's sharing some of the amazing pictures. the obamas, the bushes, hillary clinton together for almost 20 hours straight. we may not have audio, but we have picture said and they tell a tale about the conversation between the first families. stay here. i have low testosterone. there, i said it. see, i knew testosterone could affect sex drive, but not energy or even my mood.
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did race play a role when three african-american teenagers were arrested in rochester, new york? that is what some in this community are asking today. the teens say they were simply waiting for a school bus to take them to a basketball game. but they didn't make it there. they got arrested and tossed into jail. that has some accusing police of racial profiling. cnn's jason carroll sat down with these teens. >> when not in school, this is where rahal eke redd, dijuan, and wantaj like to spent their time, on the basketball court, playing for edison tech high
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school. it was just a few days ago they were leaving a much different court. all three charges in a case involved them and rochester police. >> i'm like wow, it shouldn't have gotten this far. >> the students were waiting outside a convenience store near this intersection in downtown rochester, waiting for their bus to take them to a game. then they say a police officer approached them. >> the officer addressed us. he was like, you cant stand here. you have to go. we tried to inform him we weren't waiting for the city bus. we were waiting for the yellow bus to go to our scrimmage. he told us he didn't care, he told us to move. >> did anyone protest, say anything at all? >> i did. i said this is where we catch our bus. this is where we catch our bus at. this is where our coach told us to be at. then he told us to move. then i said all right. i was laughing while i said it. he said, you think that's funny? put your hands behind your bat. >> redd said he was walking away when he noticed carlock was in
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handcuffs. >> i asked him what happened and he said, i don't know. >> he came over to see what happened. he wanted to know what was going on with me, and the cop arrested him because he said he was nosy. >> police then arrested both redd and weathers. all three charged with disorderly conduct. it was all happening so fast, says edison tech basketball coach jacob scott, who was less than a block away and making his way towards the bus stop. when he got to his students, he also got a surprise. >> i told the police officer who i was, why i was there. explained to him that these guys were down here to catch the bus to go to a scrimmage. did they do something wrong? >> and what did the officer say to you? >> yes, they didn't disperse. they didn't leave. we told them to go home and they didn't go home. at that time, i'm just -- i'm puzzled. next thing i know, he turns around and says, if you don't disperse from here in the next few seconds, we're going to take
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you downtown as well. >> rochester's police chief defended the officer's actions saying his department has received complaints about loitering and fighting in the area. and he says the boys were not actually standing at their bus stop but rather they were standing 100 yards away from it. >> this is an officer on a day-to-day basis dealing with students in the downtown area, and in this instance, based on their interaction and his request, an arrest was made. so i'm not going to say that, yes, he couldn't have done anything different. i acknowledge that he could have done something different. >> redd's mother believes there would have been a different outcome had the students been white. >> i feel that they were profiled for all the wrong reasons. when they were doing nothing wrong. >> do you think this would have happened if these three young men were white? >> well, that's a tough question to answer because, i mean, i look like these guys. >> some of the cops are just ignorant.
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they don't ask questions. they just do. based on what they see. >> i feel like he just judged us way too quickly. >> rochester's police chief said the arrest was not about profiling or race and says the overwhelming majority of students in the city's school district are african-american and latino. >> so if we're going to address students who come through the downtown section of which 12,000 are eligible to ride the school bus, that is who we're going to encounter, people of color. so to put it on the rochester police department to say that because they're people of color, they were addressed, i think it's totally inappropriate. >> but city officials now do concede the officer's actions in this case would not hold up in court. the district attorney saying after reviewing the facts, she was dropping the charges against the students in the interest of justice. a relief to the students and their coach. >> that's a weight put off our shoulders. now we can stay focused on our grades, class, and basketball. >> jason carroll, cnn,
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rochester, new york. in politics, they were rivals, but on a plane, talk about the friendly skies here. take a look at this photo. this is from air force one showing former president george w. bush there showing off his paintings. you know how he's taking onto painting in recent years. showing hillary clinton on his tablet, showing michelle obama, the back of her head on the left, and other members of the obama administration. can you imagine what the thought levels would be if they existed over the heads here. this is one of several pictures the white house released after air force one flew the obamas, the clintons, the bushes, and others to nelson mandela's memorial in johannesburg. joining me now, mr. wolf blitzer. nice to see you. >> nice to see you always. >> let's show another photo and dock. the two presidents talking over the table. appear very chummy. you have been on air force one.
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looking alt the one picture made me realize how huge this plane is. could they have avoided each other if they wanted to? >> well, they probably could have although it would have been extraordinarily difficult given the fact they were all up front in the vip area where the president and first lady are. when i was on air force one as a network pool reporter back in the 1990s when i was the white house correspondent for cnn, traveled all around the world with then-president bill clinton, the media, we were kept in the back of the plane. and we were only allowed to go up front to the conference room, that big conference room that you showed there, and other quarters if we were invited by the president or some other senior official. so i spent many hours on air force one just sort of in the back with my journalistic colleagues, and i didn't rub elbows with the president or anyone else important other than the journalists who were all important, of course, to be sure. >> you have done that since. >> if you're the former president or laura bush, or
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hillary clinton, you're going to be seeing the president. the president and the first lady are not just going to stay in their own little personal cabin. they have a bed there. they could stay there, but they're going to go out and mingle, and what we're told, they spent a lot of time in the conference room there. you see the president there and the others. they were talking, they were having a good time. it's a good way for all of these people to bond. you're on a 17 or 18-hour flight. you're going to get to know the people you're with. >> sure, of course, and i have to ask since you're talking about being in the back of the plane here and walking toward that conference room area that we just saw, just curious, how many paces, just to understand how big this plane is, how long does it take to get from the back to the front? >> it's a 7 fraesk, so everybody has been on a 747. most people have. and it's a huge plane. it takes a while. and it's configured totally different than a normal passenger commercial 747. you have a lot of different rooms. you have the secret service. you have a lot of communications facilities. so it's not just a normal plane with a bunch of chairs, first
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class chairs or coach chairs or whatever. it's got a lot of different compartments. so it can take a while. and of course, if you're just -- if you're not invited up, you don't get up front because there's secret service people to make sure you don't get up front. if the president is nice, heil invite you to come up once in a while. when i was a reporter covering the white house, bill clinton was traveling around. he would often invite the media to come up, do a little q & a, on the record or off the record. and a few times, at least with bill clinton, he would even invite reporters to go into the conference room and play cards. he liked to play cards with his senior staff. hearts or other games. i remember doing that on a few occasions as well. >> that is awesome. i would love to stick my head in and see what it looks like, wolf blitzer. >> its are ea great experience especially if you have a long trip and an opportunity to mingle with senior officials or the president. a great opportunity. >> wolf, we'll be watching you as we do each and every day on
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"the situation room" 5:00 eastern right here on cnn. thank you, sir. >> thank you. and happening now, congress is voting on a bill named after a young girl who tragically lost her battle with cancer. >> it's not fair. just because, you know, we don't know as much doesn't mean we're not important. >> the bill named after gabriella miller would give more money to cancer research. we're watching this vote on capitol hill. we have a live update for you coming up next here on cnn. what ya looking for? well, you've found delicious! ♪ ♪ must be the honey! ♪ it is so honey swagalish ♪ so much crunch, can you handle this? ♪ ♪ the party in the bowl don't stop! ♪ ♪ must be the honey!
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>> it's not fair. just because, you know, we don't know as much doesn't mean we're not important. >> house democrats oppose . they are saying the money is just a drop in the bucket. here is an answer to that from one of the bill's top supporters. >> to sit here and impugn anyone's motives, much less say something that somehow is a commentary that this isn't constructive towards the plight of the parents like the millers, who are around this country searching for some indication th w can break t political gridlock on an issue like this. >> so let us not fool the public that we're doing something for pediatric research. i know my friend mr. upton has been a friend of nih, and he's a
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dear friend and good member, but i tell my friend, this bill does not do anything for peet trick research. you'll have an opportunity to vote for it. vote to get rid of the sequester, vote to invest in the national institute of health, not to cut it. that will make a difference. dana bash watching the vote for us right now. where does the vote stand right know? >> it's a slow vote, but right now only 14 democrats have voted yes, 124 republicans yes, so we're waiting to see a lot more people vote, but it looks as though if you have the number two democrat, as you heard, steny hoyer, and others actively, not just saying they're against it, but actively whips or twisting arms, it does not look good for this bill. you heard very clearly the reasons democrats gave, brook.
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they believe this is window dressing, a political stunt, because what republicans are saying is that this is money that they are taking out of or doing away with from federal funds that are supposed to go to political conventions. and authorizing that or redirecting it toward pediatric research at the nih. democrats are ailing it doesn't really do that, that you have to have a different mechanism to make that happen and this is basically a fraud, so that's why they're voting against it, but it's political hard for them to do that. >> i hear you have a voice. give me a thumbsup if i can ask the follow-up question. go for it, live tv, it happens. quickly, the parents. the parents are there. >> yes. >> i did interview them. they were in the gallery. they were going to comened talk to us live, but they wanted to
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see the vote, because tounder score this bill, it's named after their daughter. >> dana bash, go get a drink of water and keep watching that vote. thank you so much. yellowstone national park, a place visited by millions each and every year, but a new report says a danger may by lurking underneath the park's grounds. the results could be catastrophic? we'll explain what that's all about, next. for financing my. thanks for giving me your smile. thanks for inspiring me. thanks for showing me my potential. for teaching me not to take life so seriously. thanks for loving me and being my best friend. don't forget to thank those who helped you take charge of your future and got you where you are today. the boss of your life. the chief life officer. ♪
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talk about landing the big one. it astounded this marine. jeff finman caught a great white shark, taking nearly a half hour, wrestled the thing ashore. now we have video proof, though his wife apparently wanted to keep her distance, and i don't blame her. >> got it? >> yes. oh, my god. >> look at it. >> oh oh, my god. >> it's illegal to catch one, so he set it free. yellowstone has shocked scientists.
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this super volcano with a cavern of magma, in fact, so big that scientists say an eruption would be catastrophic. so chad myers, we talk to you about supervolcanos. they knew it was there, but can you explain how the hot springs, the guisers, the study has just discovered the actual size. how big is this thing? >> we have always knew there was one, under a weak spot, a thin spot in the crust where the magma is close to the surface, maybe a mile or ten miles. we always knew it was there, but up in the northwest part of wyoming, we now believe it's 1,000 square miles, 50 miles by 20 miles the other way and a magma chamber below the surface of 100 cubic miles of molten rock. you ask, how do we do this? the scientists at the university of utah had been watching earthquakes around the area. he know the seismic waving will go through a molten rock slower
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than a solid rock. so if the way they look at these signals, they know below this caldera right here, there's molten lava. this erupp about one her 800,000 years. the last type it erupted was 640,000 plus or minus a couple decades. so i think they're okay, unless stem cells can keep me alive for 100,000 years, but it's always possible. mother nature does what she wants. >> cool pictures, though. thanks for the explanations. quickly, some cash for holiday shopping? you may want to pick up a megamillions lottery ticket. now the top prize has fur soared, now worth about $400 million, or do the math, we're talking a little more than $200
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