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i'm debra feyerick in for fredricka whitfield. on the road to disaster in crimea. nato condemned russia's military action after an urgent meeting. today president obama is meeting with his national security team on the crisis. he's expected to call key u.s. allies. all of this comes after ukraine's prime minister says russia's military moves amount to a declaration of war. secretary of state john kerry called this a stunning act of aggression. michelle kosinski live at the white house, phil black, ian lee is in kiev, the capital of ukraine. we are going to fir start with the white house, with michelle. white house rallying allies to its side, try to is late
president putin, try to push him so perhaps he'll reverse his positi position. is there any sense the white house feels they are succeeding? >> we're not getting that sense. we're not hearing from the white house today. it was made very clear what was talked about in these discussions that started yesterday. first president obama spoke to the leaders of canada and france saying we know he's going to speak to the uk and others. we should get a summary or read out of those calls later today after those happen. for what was discussed yesterday, want to reinforce the u.s. statements that a violation of ukraine's sovereignty is unacceptable. to talk about working together, not only organize response in the form of maybe even sanctions together but also to work together and how these nations might support ukraine. deb. >> so john kerry spoke today saying russia cannot get away
with this. is that, i suppose, short of the words, what do you know? >> he really didn't mince words on this. yesterday when we heard from the administration, it was more tempered, although several times we heard the phrases that russia's actions were violation of ukraine's sovereignty. kerry took this a step further calling this an act of aggression, saying it was brazen. here is part of what he said earlier. >> it's an incredible act of aggression. atmosphere stunning willful choice by president putin to invade another country. russia is in violation of the sovereignty of ukraine. russia is in violation of its international obligations. >> so he took it a step further from what the administration was saying yesterday that there could be repercussions or costs.
today kerry did more to spell those out saying absolutely sanctions are on the table, that in the near future we could see things like asset freezes or visa bans imposed against russia. he even hinted at the possibility nations would work together to remove russia from the g-8. we know already certain countries, including the u.s., canada, uk, have pulled out of preliminary talks leading up to the g-8 summit in june in russia. he said what russia is doing, these are not the action of a g-8 nation. if it keeps up, other countries will not participate in those talks. he said basically russia has other options. why it's doing this us unknown when it has u.n. monitors it could allow in to keep track in ukraine. that is the excuse russia has given publicly. it brought in troops to look after its own interest in that
country. kerry said it's a pretext, trumped up pretext for invading another country. >> absolutely. they were able to do it under the cover of the olympics it appears. michelle kosinski at the white house, thank you so much. we're going to move on now to moscow. phil black is there for us live. phil, one thing so interesting about this, these protests in ukraine began in late november just as moscow was gearing up for the olympics. it looks like the kremlin was very ready to go in while everybody else was focused on sort of this goodwill gesture, this party russia was hosting. >> there's been a lot of speculation through the olympic period, what it's reaction would be in the ukraine, during the olympic period. there was an expectation that once the olympics were out of the way, we would see perhaps a tougher russian line on the
ongoing refer illusion and political crisis in ukraine. it was only as the olympics started to draw to a close that that crisis hit its peak and we saw the government fall. now that the olympics is out of the way, "there's no doubt whatsoever russia is taking off the gloves and they are going in, even though paralympics are around the corner. >> are you hearing anything on russian tv, more justification as to why russia is doing this? >> russia believes very strongly russian speaking citizens of ukraine, russian citizens in ukraine are under threat. this is what they have been saying and reporting on russian television consistently through the the crisis up to the revolution that took place. the position of the russian government, position reported by russian television is ukrainian nationalists threatening rights,
interests, even lies of those close to russia. that continues to be the decree. >> putting the russian story very much into question. phil black in moscow. thank you very much. going to belgium where nato ambassadors met on the crisis in ukrainian. live outside nato headquarters, erin, i was listening to what the secretary-general was talking about. it was interesting only once did he make reference to the fact that russia has to pull out of ukraine and go back, withdraw to its military bases. other than that condemnation, great concern. what did you take away? >> these would be considered strong words from secretary-general. the press conference he held following hours of meetings, two separate meetings at nato headquarters in which he strongly condemned what he
characterized as the russian federation military escalation in ukraine. take a listen. >> nato allies have agreed a statement, which sets out our position. we condemn russia's military escalation in crimea. we express our grave concern regarding the authorization by the russian parliament on the use of the armed forces and russian federation on the territory of ukraine. >> so that is nato secretary-general on behalf of 28 nato ambassadors speaking their -- really what he's doing is putting a name and a face to what's happening inside the ukraine and condemning it, effectively calling out federation for what's going on there. he went on to call for peaceful resolution through dialogue as
well as through dismatch of international observers under the auspices of united nations security council. he also reiterated nato support for sovereignty. it's territorial integrity. he called for in inclusive process. he went on to say nato would be engaging with russian council. ukrainian ambassador following that made a statement expressing his hope this all could be resolved through peaceful channels. deb. >> erin at nato headquarters, thank you. only a matter of time kiev calling up reservists and calling russia's intervention a declaration of war. ian at the nation's capital and joins me from there. ian, the ukrainians were so focused on what was going on and
trying to stabilize a dicey situation, are they now ready to switch gears and go to war with russia? >> that's right. the economy here is doing horribly. this is a very new government. it's about a week old. they were hoping to go on the business of the day. now with this new incident, they are focusing on this russian incursion into the crimea. the government has said all available funds will go toward the military to make sure it is prepared. when it comes to what government officials here say, either pretty straightforward with what they want. klitschko said, came here and told us. he did not mince words. >> the russians have to take away russian forces from crimea,
main point territory, if we talk independence of ukraine, it's military forces have to remove ukrainian territory. >> reporter: so what we essentially have right now is ukrainian forces on the highest alert possible. we have reservist, people with military experience, called up to register to be prepared for any sort of military conflict of the people here are gearing up for what could be a war if the russians try to push further into ukraine. now, if you look at it, though, from who would win in a war, there's not much of a question that the russians would win if they were to go to blows. that's why we're seeing a strong diplomatic effort that you were just talking about with the other correspondents. it's that big of a deal for this
government to have a peaceful solution and they don't really want to see this go to any blood shed. >> not only that. you can't underestimate the impact that russian aid was having in the ukraine. a $15 billion bailout package, plus cheap gas. all of that now seems in question. ukraine has certainly a lot of things that they are working out right now. ian lee in kiev, we thank you. does the u.s. have any leverage in the ukrainian crisis? in a minute we're going to ask if there's any real appetite for a fight on either side.
bring to bear. putin is putting on the guise of old cold warrior. though actions speak louder than word, there doesn't seem to be much of an appear tour of utah for a real fight. at least not yet. national correspondent for daily beast joins me from washington. josh, what is vladimir putin going to listen to, if anything. >> the calculation here by the obama admission of manages is they can put pressure on vladimir putin through economic means. you listen to what jesus christ said through three stations, he said they are considering asset freezes, visa bans, trade, other mechanisms that will squeeze the russian economy. they believe that's the best way to affect the calculus of vladimir putin. also kerry interestingly mentioned sanctions against russian businesses. this is sort of a warning
against putin they could go after his friends, oligarchs, people who support him in his region and keep him in power to some degree. the idea is these warnings, threats, encourage putin over time to constrain decision making so he might be incentivized not to expand russian aggression in ukraine past crimea. lets remember, the beginning of a long crisis, not the end. it just doesn't affect crimea, all the places in ukraine where russia might claim to have interest. that's the game here right now. >> what do people have to understand, for example, in the united states, in europe, to really understand there's a domino effect at play here. if ukraine follows or becomes so financially destabilized, that's going to impact european union. that's going to ultimately impact the united states. how does that message get out there.
>> right. what's important to remember here, russian strategy in ukraine is two-fold. one, it's to change the facts on the ground so the situation in crimea will prevent the government in kiev from establishing itself as stable, credible and legitimate government. that's a big deal because ukraine is in the middle of a deep financial crisis. so if you listen to john kerry today, he was calling for congress to pass a huge aid package to ukraine. if ukrainian economy collapses, ukrainian government as it stands will have difficult staying in power and that could result in another turnover which would be in the russian interest. what they are projecting, in order for us to have international stability, we first have to have international economic stability, shoring up ukraine economically so it can stay in one piece politically. >> you have to think about
ukraine, one country but two government. the new one in kiev and the new one in crimea. we sort of saw this really during the arab spring. there was ultimately the question who is really in charge and do you just sort of have these super powers trying to affect the outcome of the situation in the country itself. >> what we're looking at here is not so much one government turning over back and forth but a situation in china and taiwan where you have one big country run by a government and one small part of the country run by another government and both claim to be the legitimate governments of the entire country. another comparison, frozen conflict in georgia, where russian troops invade in 2008 and they remain to this day. what we're going to have essentially is a difference of recognition where the west recognizes government in kiev and russia recognizes the government in crimea possibly with tacit endorsement of the
ousted president in russia, speaking russian. that could be a problem that lasts for a very, very long time. >> very long time. >> continue to irritate u.s. and russian relationships. >> ukraine has a larger problem and that is the new prime minister said basically the treasury has been robbed and that $70 billion has left the country. so they have got a lot of issues they are going to have to deal w josh roggin, thank you so much. we're going to hear from a former nato commander in a couple minutes about the military options. ♪ humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures, living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back, offering exclusive products like optional better car replacement, where, if your car is totaled, we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. call...
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so if the ukraine is, as the prime minister says, on the brink of disaster, what is the u.s. going to do about it? americans are war weary. as the world watches russia move troops into the peninsula, president and members of congress are talking tough. can we do any more than that? candy crowley joining us from washington our chief correspondent and anchor for "state of the union." you interviewed ukrainian ambassador and talked to two u.s. senators. despite president obama's threat there would be costs, russia did exactly what it wanted to do. will the u.s. and its european counterpart take meaningful action against russia? >> i think it's in the definition of meaningful. if meaningful you think
something that will talk putin into moving back across the border, that may be difficult, as a number of people i talked to today said what would move them. how about not going to g-8 in sochi. everyone said, no, he doesn't really care. it's finding first of all unity between eu and u.s. and others and then finding something that might actually work to put putin a more diplomatic mode where everybody gets together and talks about how to solve this. having said that when he talked to u.n. ambassador, he made it clear it's possible they may want military help from other nations. >> we are to demonstrate we have our own capacity to protect ourselves decided dane parliament and we are preparing to defend ourselves. naturally if going in that way,
the russian groups are enlarging their quantity with every coming hour, naturally will be -- ask for support. >> ukraine will ask for military help. how does this play out here in the united states. does congress need to approve this? is this going to be a coalition force involving other countries? is this even on the table right now? >> not on the table right now. probably never on the table, if by hirlt help they mean boots on the ground, there will not be u.s. boots on the ground. u.s. military if needed, i think premature. but it is very much in the u.s. interest -- this is more an eu problem. if you look at the economics of it, the fate of ukraine and certainly the fate of crimea inside ukraine is much more
important to europe on economic basis than u.s. having said that, u.s. has an interest keeping russia contained and not spreading out into the former east bloc nation. i think anything the u.s. does will be with eu leadership ornate or under some umbrella like that. not a u.s. unilateral action and certainly i don't think under any circumstances no matter who joins us with any boots on the ground? >> you have to think the european union is dependent on 25% of all natural gas coming from that region. clearly significant and clearly what happened in the eu is great interest to the u.s. candy crowley, a lot to keep our eyes on. >> thanks, deb. 100 million people in the path of another winter storm. how bad will it be? need to fly out early? buy groceries? all that coming up next. for a brilliant smile there's a breakthrough in whitening. from crest 3d white, new brilliance toothpaste and boost. after brushing, our exclusive boost polishes your smile
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nato has spoken out against russia's actions and nato ambassadors have been meeting on what options the western alliance may have to confront russia and crisis in ukraine. one man who knows nato very well former supreme allied commander of nato retired army general who joins us by skype in little rock, arkansas. lets talk about the connection with nato. is this just about the european union or is this about all of nato as we were sort of discussing during the break. >> right at the heart of nato. when the soviet union fell apart and nato began to reach out through the partnership for peace, one of the things we established with all the nations in eastern europe that wanted to be affiliated with united states and nato was that they could consult with nato. nato would serve to extend the
security umbrella of the atlantic alliance eastward. so romania, bulgaria, slovakia, estonia, have all joined nato. georgia was interested in joining. ukraine was ambivalent and that was okay because we knew russia was highly sensitive about ukraine joining and that was fine. but ukraine is a member of partnership for peace. so they have every right to come to nate and ask for this. this is really the fundamental purpose of nato, to provide the bedrock of stability in europe. >> when you look at the precision of this invasion, did putin do this under the cover of olympics. knowing things in kiev were heating up, did he amass his troops and put into plan an action oor put a plan into
step in without anyone firing a shot? >> right. i think probably existing plans. normally countries have these plans on the shelf, so to speak. they pull them off the shelf, dust them, look at them, i'm sure that was being done. everyone in the street, in kiev, knew the hammer was coming as far as the olympics was over. that's why they forced temple of action to get the previous president out of there. they knew if they didn't take action before the olympics was over that russia would come in and squash it. they took advantage of the olympics just like putin did. >> although interesting, it doesn't appear they had a military plan in order to combat troops on the grounds. i want to talk about a second
battleground. that involves natural gas. so many transit routes into europe, ukraine, in terms of the pipeline. expectation of gas shortages in europe. how does this play out and how does this affect everyone? >> well, it is natural gas. everybody is concerned about it and what would happen if putin turned off natural gas. he's done it before, sent shock waves. european union recently decided to go ahead with fracking. there is a lot of national rat gas potential in shales inside europe. it's in spain. spain has shales every bit as good as what we have in dakota. a lot like marcellus in poland. hundreds of millions of acres of shale there. it's just getting it out and developing it.
she could be potentially self-sufficient in natural gas. one of the things putin has to be aware of, if he shakes the energy tree very hard, he's going to persuade europeans they can no longer afford to rely on natural gas. they will be able to go their own way with a combination of slal from europe, england and imported from the united states. catr and others from europe, many building receiving stations to take that lng now. >> clearly the immediate impact is a massive destabilization of the ukrainian economy. maybe they underestimated the amount of the aid that was propping up and ukraine could also ab factor. no? >> it's a big factor. ukraine is going to be destabilized economically as a result of this no matter what. even if putin decides to let go of crimea, pull out, owes
billions to russia for natural gas. so if the european and united states step in, essentially subs diesing russian natural gas. it's exported to ukraine at a price far in excess of what we pay in the united states and well above any economic costs. pure gravy, russia exported to ukraine. >> general, little rock, arkansas, always a pressure. we thank you. we'll be right back. afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection. and because usaa's commitment to serve current and former military members and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve.
russia approved using military force in ukraine. they say the move was necessary to protect russian citizens from potential violence. not many people are really buying that claim. there's little evidence to back it up. at the same time congress is weighing what to do, whether to punish moscow for intervening in crimea. ohio congresswoman is president of the chapter. her grandfather was in the gulag for 20 years. in buzz feed article you're quoted as saying about crimea, quote, the party of regions kept it civil. some had to step in to mediate that, at the moment it appears
to beoops. what do you mean by that? how do you clarify? >> i think what happened was the world community has been not as focused on ukraine as they should be and they left a vacuum. first they left a security vacuum. in view of what was happening in other communities across ukraine, there should have been contingency plans to deal with any potential unrest as a result of a collapse of the party of regions. that didn't happen. so you know the old rule when there's a power vacuum, bad things can happen and it does. so i think it's incumbent on the world community, and started today with nato, issuing ultimatum and set of alternatives to president putin of russia to find an alternate means to assure security in the ukrainian new government has to be vigilant in its efforts to seek that. it has to appeal to the world
community. to the u.n., to obviously nato and to the osce. there was -- in my opinion there was a vacuum. this could have been well anticipated and it wasn't dealt with and provided the opportunity for this to happen. >> you say the new government has to be is that right now there are two governments unin kieve and each is being backed by different countries. >> yes, you prove my point. in other words there should have been greater security in any region where there was the potential for this kind of power vacuum and unrest. that didn't happen. and you saw what happened through the back door. so it is a part of the ukraine.
there were demonstrations in the east as well as the west. >> let's deal with the situation on the ground. do you believe there should be a peace keeping force in crimea? >> i do. i think any country in countries canada, the united states, poland, you look around the world. all of these nations understand because of the people who live there. it is incumbent on the world community. in the way take a look at the world the world owes it to the ukraine. no place has suffered more.
first with stalin and then with hitler. technically joseph stalin was our ali. it is morally right. >> you have to realize, this is within a historical context. you can't look at it within the last couple of months. thank you so much. it will be interesting to see what congress does within the coming weeks. >> stay with cnn. we are live at the white house.
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being counted. >> this ward is overflowing with victims from this attack. many have wounds directly to the head. it is clear that the attackers were aiming to kill. >> so 58-year-old street vender is lucky. he was taking a train to visit his sick mother. his wife is still in shock. >> we never could have imagined this happening she says. he slips in and out of consciousness. bits of blade still stuck in his skull. >> i feel those people are horrible. like many. david mackenzy cnn china.