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>> we are not doing this. >> my office is face down like this. that person has to go to jail. >> if i was the mayor of chicago how can i stop it? >> i don't know. this is cnn breaking news. the mystery of flight 370. i'm don lemon. breaking news for you. 15 planes, 13 ships headed out to the search zone for flight 370. and that zone has narrowed again today down to around 18,000 square miles. still a lot of ocean but there's renewed urgency to the search coming after the crew of an australia p 3 oryan picked up a signal that maybe from the black boxes. the fifth signal picked up by search teams so far and it is analyzed right now. we will bring you the news on that as soon as we get it. as the search goes on there are many more questions than
answers. you have been tweeting your questions by the thousands and we have experts standing by to answer them for you like this from sara. how long would it take for the plane to sink and how far would the drift be? >> i want to get right to the search zone. let's start with you joe johns. we talked about that search zone. that it was narrowed. it has been a month for the investigation and the government revealed new information about the plane's disappearance from radar. what did we learn, joe? >> i think we learned three things. first, we are learning malaysian air force search aircraft were dispatched soon after the airline reported its plane was missing. malaysian government officials, however, are denying any type of jets were scrambled. so there's room for clarification on that.
the second thing we are learning is the aircraft apparently dipped twoon 5,000 and 4,000 feet during its travels, not clear whether it was the result of some trouble or if it was done by the pilots for example to try to evade detection. the third thing we learned was that the voice on the sign off on those last haunting words good night mh-370, was the voice of the captain. so three important new elements to add to the piece of the puzzle. the question, of course, is how all of these things put together. >> so we know for a fact who was flying the plane, the pilot or co-pilot? >> i don't think that is clear. i don't think it is clear at all. what we do know is in the last final exchanges, verified by voice comparison with other pilots at malaysia airlines, the voices were calm, apparently no stress. and apparently no voices in the
background. still, we don't know who was in control of the plane at the time. >> joe johns, thank you very much. erin mclaughlin there's been another possible ping heard. how is the search changing based on the latest signals? >> i have lost my feed. >> apparently having trouble with her. that happens when it is live. how has it changed since it is 18,000 square miles and the fifth ping. >> every time they get another ping, it increases the certainty that what they found is the right thing and that allows them to decrease the area that they are searching in. we haven't had this fifth ping confirmed, but if it is confirmed -- it's like we saw last night with tom foreman, you keep getting pings. you draw the circle and the more pings you get the closer it becomes. so your search area is greatly
reduced. that's why angus houston wants to try to get as many pings as possible. >> as many pings as possible because number one the battery life, the battery is weakening every single minute. that's important to find it as soon as possible. >> the battery life is weakening. he doesn't have a second chance. once the pinger has died, that's it. so why not spend the time getting as many assets in the water. you have the buoys, the ships, the tow ping locate canner. all of these things searching now while they can. >> joe johns said they had no idea whether it was the pilot or co-pilot. that was interesting because they said the last thing was good night 370. and they said that you the pilot's voice, but they don't know who was flying the plane. >> the chief executive of malaysia airlines said it was his understanding it was the co-pilot, the first officer. now they seem to be amending that. they played it to five different
people. officially they are saying nothing. unofficially sources have told cnn that they believe it is the captain. we don't know. we have to stick with what we are being told officially which seems to suggest the first officer. >> let's check in with erin mclaughlin again. can you hear us this time. >> yes, i can. >> there's been another possible ping heard. how is the search changing from where you are based on the latest signal? >> they have been analyzing the new data overnight. they said it looked promising. we are waiting for updates on that. we will let you know as soon as we hear. really if this does in fact turn out to be the real deal it is significant for two reasons. it lets them know that the batteries associated with the black box pinger have not yet expired and angus houston, the
man responsible for coordinating the search effort said the search for pings will continue as long as they believe that battery is still in play and it gives them more information, more information with which which to narrow down a potential search field. the more pings they get, he more information they have to be able to send down, to narrow down that search field in order to send down an underwater autonomous vehicle. it will be able to go underwater and search for the wreckage and take pictures, as well. as far as we know at the moment, we're not at that stage yet, don. >> thank you very much. we appreciate that. the australian prime minister has previously scheduled remarks in shanghai and we will let you know if he says anything about the search effort. stay tuned. richard, i want you to stay with me and check many with martin savidge who's in a 777 flight simulator along with mitchell casado.
sources say the plane dipped to an altitude of 4,000 to 5,000 feet after it crossed the malaysian peninsula. martin, help us understand that. >> well,ly tell you right now, we are cruising in the simulator at 4500 feet. and we are heading northwest up the strait. in the simulator. this is what malaysian sources suggest the plane did. we have it in daylight so you can see the horizon and aircraft. any pilot, anyone with any understanding of radar would tell you, you fail and fail miserably. show us if we want the plane to go off of radar and it will have to be dramatically closer to the ground. mitchell will put us in to a steep dive and see the water racing up to us through the
windshield. hear the alarms alerting us we are going too fast and too low but bring it in to a level we say would be more realistic if you were trying to take this plane below a radar level in the strait and it is going to have to be about here. if you bring up the other vantage point, mitchell, this is the aircraft, the simulator here showing it now. this plane is about 100 feet off the deck. that's where you would have to be to try to avoid any kind of radar. it would be extremely noisy. it would be -- what would it be like to handle this. >> really stressful. really noisy. just dangerous. >> it would have been night time. this would have been suicidal. so take us up. so then there's another way. we could try to explain this. maybe that is they weren't trying to avoid radar but what they were trying to avoid is other aircraft, commercial
aircraft. get down low enough they are out of the primary plane where any planes will be. in other words, one way you depict this makes it look sinister hiding. if you put it the other way and say, no, they are trying to avoid other planes. it looks like they might be dealing with another accident and trying to be safe and not harm other aircraft. >> thank you very much. appreciate that. we will get reaction from geoffrey thomas, the editor in chief of airline ratings.com. richard quest also with me here on the set in new york. geoffrey, we saw martin demonstrate the flight 370 may have flown as low as 4,000 feet. what would make a plane descent or drop to that level? >> it is an interesting question, don. it had been speculated when the information was first rumored a few weeks ago out of malaysia, they might have been terrain hugging to avoid radar.
it seems to support the theory that this was a very deliberate action combined with the altitude changes that we had known about and also the information which cnn got a few days ago that the airplane had flown completely around indonesia. it all seems to paint a picture of trying to avoid primary military radar. >> richard, what more do we know about the altitude drop and why the info is coming out now. remember we heard the drop to 12,000 feet. >> we had numerous altitude reports. the first said it was up to 45 and then down to 2 3. then one at 12,000 and that wasn't for radar but to avoid traffic and now this one says it went under 4,000 and tried to avoid radar. but here's the contradiction on this one. because they say it did disappear from radar, this source and reappeared again.
so we don't know why that source said it disappeared from radar and reappeared again. we have to treat it with -- >> a lot of this we knew but not the altitude. >> i have to ask you, you wrote an article explaining a couple of scenarios how the plane would have broken up if it crashed over the water. lay those out for us, will you? >> i want to add something to what you just said. if it did go down to that altitude of 4,000, 5,000 feet, what happened after that? if it continued to that altitude the rest of the flight it wouldn't have gone anything like the distance we now know it did go because it would have youed too much fuel. it is implying if it was at 4,000, 5,000 feet it would have to askrecend to the full alt tu where the search is targeted now. i take great objection to the
stuff that this stuff is let out bit by bit and inferences are made by various people drawing different conclusions to it. this is less than accurate. if we were to be really fair about this and take this seriously, we'd want to see a complete radar map, a continuous complete radar picture, not fragments. any way, don, to get back to your original question, exactly how this aircraft hit the ocean is crucial. we don't know that. but there could be a huge difference in the type of debris field that it creates according to which way it went in. if it went in a powered kind of dive it would have broken up in to millions of pieces because that's what happened to an md-11 that went in to the atlantic off of the coast of halifax. on the other hand, if it went in similar to the air france 447 in a relatively stable condition it would have broken up in to a
number of large pieces, and many smaller pieces, but i think it is fascinating now, don, that we still have not had any sighting at all of any piece of wreckage. it is pretty interesting that angus houston, thes the australian commentator who is measured in what he says. i think it is admirable in the way he conducts the press conferences. he is very measured. he made it clear until they have wreckage there's no proof of what has happened. he is talking in this case not about wreckage that is floating but wreckage beneath the ocean. as you have been saying, the area has been narrowed to 18,000 square miles today. that's an enormous area. in the end what you have to go for is an area probably no larger than a few city blocks. so we have to get from 18,000 square miles to an area of no larger than a few city blocks to have any chance of finding this. >> yeah. i want to ask you, how optimistic -- i understand your scenario about the chances, down
to a few city blocks, but do you believe these five signals the searchers have picked up so far, alleged fifth, are the pings from the black boxes? >> yes, i do. i think we got very lucky. i think the search had to start very late because we moved the 700 miles further north. it's worth remembering, if they were searching in the original area, further to the south it would have been impossible to deploy this equipment because the weather and seas are so bad. i'm encouraged by this. i think the australians have been careful about what they are encouraging us to expect. i think the big question is what happens when the pings stop? is there an equipment gap between the broad stroke searching done by the ping detector and the very specific targeted searching done by torpedo size. >> the bluefin-21. >> i want you to stick around and everyone to stick around here. we have breaking news in this country. nine people are dead after a fiery collision between a tour bus and a fedex truck in glenn
county, california. california highway patrol says the passengers on the bus were students from southern california on their way to visit a college. we will bring you more details as soon as we get them. when we come right back, i want to bring in my team of experts to weigh in on the big mystery s of flight 370. what malaysia knew and when they knew it. gunderman group is a go.
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by searchers is called encouraging. i want to bring in my panel of experts. jeff wise, mary schavio, former inspector general of the department of transportation is now an attorney for victims of transportation accidents. lieutenant colonel michael kay, a former adviser to the u.k. ministry of defense. tim till mon, an american airlines pilot and fran townsend, homeland security adviser to president bush and geoffrey thomas in perth all back with me now. and clive irving. listen, guys, i have breaking news in to cnn. this is according to the associated press. richard will tell you what our affiliates in australia is reported. the associated press is reporting that this is breaking news from australian prime
minister said the sermers are confident that it is coming from missing plane's black box. he says they are confident they are coming from missing plane's black box. geoffrey, you are in australia. -- hang on, richard -- >> it is pretty much the australian networks in some shape or form are reporting the same comment. i'm guessing the prime minister made comments entering or leaving a building. geoffrey, what do you know about this? there's the associated press' tweet right there. what do you know, geoffrey thomas? >> you are quoting ap, that's great. that confirms what we were hearing here that the prime minister of australia was going to make an announcement, or make -- possibly make an announcement. that's just rumor at this stage. we don't have are any confirmation at all. but one of the things -- yep.
>> but again, that is not cnn's reporting and we are reporting what our affiliates in australia put out and the associated press. again, we want to tell you that this should be perceived with a bit of caution here. cnn has not confirmed that. but the associated press is reporting that the prime minister is saying he is confident, and again i'm just giving you the quote here, the australian prime minister says searchers are confident that signals are coming from missing plane's black box. we don't know the context. >> we don't know the context and the comment is interesting and demands discussion. it is not revolutionary because we have had similar from angus houston but it is setting a scenario and creating a picture of what the thinking now is in in the officialdom in australia. >> we want to be clear, mary schavio, this is not coming from angus houston the man in charge of the search but from the prime minister.
the prime minister could have made some offhanded comment leaving a press conference or trying to repeat what angus houston had said and didn't say it exactly. because angus houston has said he is confident it is coming from a device which is, which would be a black box. >> a flight data recorder. >> yeah. go ahead, mary. >> again, i would expect to hear this from angus houston. he's so far been good to his word. he said when he has something to announce he will call a press conference and announce it. he was oopt mystic on his last press conference. this is perhaps the latest ping they have picked up, once analyzed was with exceedingly goochld i'd like to wait and hear it from the leader of the task force. >> clive irving, as you are hearing this information, would you be surprised by this coming from the prime minister rather than the person heading the search? >> well, i hope it's a consider canned comment by the prime minister because it's very important if it comes out of the
mouth of the prime minister and it is endorsing the mood that we have been seeing the last two days. angus houston has ben couraging this mood, i think the. i think this is great news if it is true because it means the concentration of all of the resources that are out there on the ocean, in the air and under the water, all of these resources can be now better concentrated in one place. so, i don't think we should expect quick results, but at least it's a confidence building day today, i think. >> fran townsend, in your experience with homeland security, what do you make of the latest information we are hearing? according to the associated presentation and associate to our affiliates in australia? >> it is typical when there's a big break in a sort of investigation that has worldwide attention that a political leader will make a statement. i'm not surprised if the reporting is right that the prime minister would say this. i agree with mary. what you ought to expect to come
behind this is angus coming out to make a more detailed statement on what's the context? why are they confident that this is coming from the plane's black box? and sort of weaving together the narrative of the facts about what's the significance of this development and what it means to the ongoing investigation. >> let me jump in here. forgive me. i'm going to throw in one more -- this is from our affiliate. >> is this news 9. >> no this is sky news australia. sky news australia is tweeting from press availability in shanghai -- >> that's where -- >> that's where the prime minister is. >> tony abbott is in shanghai. >> pm abbott, and this is in quotes, we are very confident the signals are from the black box. so we are going up one notch. >> so he was at a previously scheduled press -- >> i think he's on his way. >> now he's going to -- apparently we will be hearing from the prime minister. this is all coming in to cnn. this is breaking news. we are getting it just as you
are. as richard quest was saying this is coming from our affiliate sky news. saying -- what's the quote again? >> we are very confident the signals are from the black box. whichever way we look at it, the pm of australia is saying. >> until cnn says it, i want to quote that associated press is saying that the searchers are confident that signals are coming from missing plane's black box. we will check with our sources to find out what is going on. that's the quote from the associated press and our affiliates here. according to fran townsend that happens often when you have investigations like this. someone will come out and say something and they have to figure out how to give confidence behind the words rather than an off-handed statement and according to mary schavio she would like to hear from the man in charge of the investigation, as we all world,
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flight 447 that you helped, right? >> yes. >> what do you make of the prime minister's comments. cnn has confirmed that he believes it is the black boxes from flight 370. >> honestly, i'm a little suspicious of this information because how we can say that. there is for the last few weeks we are hearing pinger everywhere. how is this one better than the other one. i don't understand. >> you don't know how he can confirm the information without having the black boxes themselves. >> or seeing some debris or something to see the plane was there. i don't know. maybe he has better information than anybody. it should be because he's the prime minister but i'm a little suspicious. >> that's my next question. might he have -- obviously he is a prime minister. more information than we have, richard quest? >> i think what he is going on
is the information that we heard yesterday. the australian acoustic defense department, the experts, they are the ones that have said it is consistent, stable, it is 1.106 seconds. and i think he's probably going on that sort of evidence from his own military experts in coming up with these -- with these comments. to be quite so definitive. there's clearly been a much greater level of enthusiasm and optimism. it's interesting to hear you say, sir because quite rightly you remind us that until we have evidence we should not be off to the races. >> some debris or something that says these are the actual black boxes, correct? but it is the prime minister of australia. australia is in charge of the search now and the investigation is of course malaysia, but he is in charge of the search. the question is how does the search change now, let's say the
information is correct. then how does the search change? >> probably the area will be much smaller. the area is 18,000 square miles, which is a huge area. it's like four or five times more than for the -- which is a lot. i can tell you it was already a big area. but, you know, i don't trust very much because we used even on the "titanic," on the "titanic" debris field we were using the same pinger sensing as a marker. >> you don't trust it? >> most of the time we never heard them. it was so hard. we know where they were. we were putting this pinger on a basket where we were putting our art facts inside the basket. because we put the basket and a lot of other art facts around or a piece of the wreck.
and it was very hard to hear. and we were like maybe 1,000, 2,000 feet away and even when i was in the navy, i was many times looking for black boxes, stuff like that t. it is really, really hard to trust this kind of information because you can have a problem, something around making the same noise and it's very difficult. >> the same noise that is consistent with a black box over a period of time from a number of different times. apparently there have been at least four confirmed by the australian officials and a fifth possible one. even with that you think you are still suspicious of that? >> yes. yes, because, you know, you never know. like chinese found the pinger. we don't know if the pinger is in a rubber boat who was in contact with the water. we don't know exactly what the people are doing. it happened to me so many times.
simple mistake like that. you take your finger, the pinger. anything wet can start. and the people when they are on the side, they use pinger and maybe they lost one. >> is he rightly skeptical? >> how lucky we are to have you with us, sir. you're giving us a perspective that we need so that we don't go off too far with what -- and unrelated to this, angus houston, the man in charge of the search, is basically saying the same thing. he's saying i'm not going to say it's the pinger until i see real debris or wreckage, physical evidence. >> he's right. >> yeah. so, again, whether he's right or not, we should hear from him soon hopefully. it's so good to have you here. stick around. i'm going to get to a break and
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>> back with tonight's breaking news. prime minister abbott said he is confident the signals picked up were from the black box. angus houston said an initial assessment of the possible signal detected by raaf apc-3 orion aircraft, the so-called fifth ping has been determined not related to an under water locater beacon. the supposed fifth ping not
related to an underwater locater beacon. a lot of breaking news tonight. i want to bring in richard quest. we have confirmed what tony abbott is saying. it similar to what with we heard from angus houston, right? >> i think we are hearing a politician's version of the same thing the military man said the previous night. he's put it as confident it's a black box. we knew all of this. he said he's not going to say anymore until he has had a chance to brief the chinese premier. he's in shanghai. so i don't expect to hear anymore from prime minister abbott. >> what is our affiliate saying. >> this is from the jacc can. is this is the joint authority -- i can't remember what the two cs are. angus houston said on the information i have available to me there's been no major breakthrough in the search for
mh-370. i will provide a further update if and when further information -- >> it sounds like it is tony abbott's version of what angus houston has told us all along. >> the fifth ping doesn't exist. they are waiting for information on when to send down the auv. no major developments during the course of the friday search day. >> of course in deference to the family and tony angus houston doesn't want to give false hop or information. >> i need to correct myself, the thursday search day. >> got ya. he wants to be careful when it comes to the families as well he should be and all of us should be. joining me is steve whose mother was on flight 370. as you hear the information from the prime minister, what do you make of that? >> well, you know, they have such information before from the first day until now. every there's some clues and
some of them they feel positive they could find the plane. until now they haven't found anything which is linked to the mh-370. maybe we will wait for the final result. >> how are you and the families holding up? >> well, the -- [ inaudible ] >> i'm sorry, say again. >> well, we just keep the faith that we will find our family and find the plane. sooner or later but we will find it finally in you are keeping the faith that you will find your families and the plane. the family committee that you are part of is calling for further help. what would you like to get from them that hasn't been forthcoming already?
>> we have asked several questions. maybe some of the things are about the plane, like the satellite phone, we ask questions the government representative cannot give us an answer so they don't know it. we want boeing to give us some information about what kind of system and why elt doesn't have a signal. that is impossible. what's more for the theory leads to the final ending, we have question of what it is based on the speed, the height, any kind of difference between the different speed and different change can. they cannot answer either. we asked them several times and want to communicate with them directly. i'm not sure whether they sent out such kind of request and
they refused to give us help. so now we want through the media to ask to give more help. >> at this stage i have to ask you what do you believe happened to your mother's flight? >> well, i'm not sure. there are all kind of possibilities. it might be a hijacking, a technical problem, any kind of things. i'm not sure. the only thing i'm sure is there are still some things that have been covered up and i wish they could give it out to the world as soon as possible. >> what sort of proof do you think you and other families need to see from the malaysian government from officials? >> many kind of things. first is the record between the tower and plane. they have given us a record. it means it is not confident ial. why can't you give us a sound
record? has it been changed? anything happened? i'm not sure but that's the most important clues we think now that we will know what happened to mh-370 and the connection record between the satellite phone. they said they have called the plane several times between the 2:25 and 3:00. we want that record that leads to where the plane was flying to. >> steve wang, we are all thinking about you and hopefully by carrying the story we are hope helping the get some information and putting pressure on the malaysian government to bring more information to help you and make you aware. thank you for sharing your story. okay. much more on tonight's breaking news. asto australia's prime minister said he is confident the signals picked up were from the black box. [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah.
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angus houston said the initial assessment of the signal detected yesterday afternoon, the so-called fifth ping, is not related to an underwater beacon. fran townsend, on the one hand we have the prime minister saying he's confident this is the black box they are hearing, but then you have, you know, angus houston saying the fifth so-called ping not happening. what's going on here? how confident should we be in any of this information? >> i think the head investigator angus is the person you want to take the details from. what you are getting from the prime minister is a general statement that all of the information taken together gives him -- he didn't say it that clearly but i think what he is trying to say is a politician's sort of high-level take on the investigation. they are confident that what they are seeing now is the black box, even putting the fifth ping, potential ping aside. you are looking to the chief
investigators for the details. we now learned the fifth ping is not likely from the black box. we have seen the search area sort of constrict. it gets tighter and it does give us, from what we are seeing, confidence they are narrowing in on the appropriate area where they will be able to recover it. >> mike, you have had data. you have been stresses mrsat data. you heard the family member saying he wants them and boeing to get more information from them and them to be up front. do you agree when a do you make of his comments? >> i don't think they can share all of the information with the families at this stage. we have been covering it for four weeks. there's an increase of optimism since angus announced the first press conference and saw the australia defense prime minister, david johnson he then
came on the world stage and now tony abbott who seems confident and optimistic this is going to lead somewhere. i'd also emphasize, i wound fied it inkred fbl australia got on the world stage without consulting with the other five countries that form the team that sits under the independent investigator in charge, the u.k., u.s., france, china and australia. i would find it peculiar if he wasn't consulting to make sure they were comfortable with the information coming out before he announced it. >> it is interesting that is happening and a lot of criticism about that. geoffrey thomas, i want to go back to you. the search has been headed up by australia. the investigation mostly biff the malaysians ochl an scale of one to five if you were to rate how they handled the investigation, especially considering what you heard from the family member, what would you give them?
>> you would probably give them a three out of five, maybe some people may give them a two out of five. having said that, don, there's not too many countries that would do this investigation any better because we haven't lost an airplane this size like this for a month. this is something that is quite extraordinary. this would have challenged most jurisdictions i would say. now that we have the collaborative effort of the united states, the british, the australians, the chinese, the french, as well helping, it's back on track. they are doing very well as an international collaboration. >> all right. tim tilmon and jeff wise we will fwet to you shortly. a lot of show ahead of us. more on the breaking news. australia's prime minister said he is confident they have picked up signals from flight 370's black box. how can you just stand there?
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my experts are back with me. let's talk about the possibility of hijacking. this is for fran. fran, this is from a viewer in nashville. says wouldn't hijacking explain everything. just because nothing showed up on passenger's check doesn't rule it out. fran? >> that's right. the fact there is nothing on the passengers doesn't rule it out. we've seen much talk. i hasten to add it continues to be speculation right now. but when they ruled out this was nothing wrong with the passengers the glaring absence was they didn't say about that at about the salt pilots. there's much talk in the law enforcement community whether or not a pilot when the co-pilot went to the lavatory might have locked himself in and sabotaged the plane. we don't know that. that is speculation. the fact that the passengers were cleared does not rule out a hijacking or an individual sabotaging the plane.
>> richard quest, she's correct. they have not ruled out the pilots or even the crew, correct? in let's leave everybody in and everybody out. >> thank you very much. we appreciate that. when we come back, australia's prime minister said he is confident the signals they picked up are from the black box. >> we should be on the air at 6:00 as predicted.